BMW F800GT vs rivals | Tests | Motorcyclenews.com
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- BMW's new F800GT is branded as a do-everything entry level tourer. We took it out againstsome of it's class rivals - the Honda Deauville and Yamaha's Fazer 8 - to see what it fared like in the real world.
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Well back in 2001 I was looking at a new do it both bike. I looked at the FJR1300 and the FZ1. I opted for the FZ1, put on a taller screen, 2 41 liter Givi side cases and a 51 liter top box and tank bag for touring duties and put on a custom bar to suit my size and likes and then Race tech forks and Bitubo rear shock to smooth up the ride with or with out loads. Best of both worlds...
Agree with a few comments here. Test should be "Ok, I've got 9k - what's the best tourer I can get?". Also, somewhat surprised that in a touring there's a remark of "Once you're on the motorway you'd be quickly reminded (of the lack of protection)." I'd have thought a touring test would have included motorway riding as it's often the best way to get to the really good roads you want to go on.
Great review honest and clear win for the BMW! Truth is proof thanks
Hi, thanks for a very informative video. I've been thinking about a Deauville as an alternative for my daily commute. I think that I understand now why some folks call it the Dullville, but it does sound as though it fits it's intended purpose very well.
Really helpful. Thanks
deauville sounds like my diversion, workhouse carrying 2 up loads but when you give it some starts vibrating and feels stressed but ii kinda like the character
who wants to go above 90mph anyway...? mcn is locked into race rep mentality... real biking is not about high speed's..... enjoy the scenery you are passing thru
So just limit all the bikes at 90mph, because pmay222 doesn't want to go faster... *sigh
And what's wrong with a bike that easily can go above 90mph and still be a good bike? Why would I chose a bike that is limited to that speed when I can get a bike that can do better on higher speeds?
BFD15i don't reely care what speed you like to do..... and I didn't mean limit bikes, how often does the average bike rider go over 90mph anyway..? mcn pushes fools into going faster than they need to.... bang down a bypass or motorway at 100+ whoopee..... then bore everyone in earshot about it...
pmay222
Over here in Germany you go over 90mph pretty regular. If you want to get to your (holiday-)destination as quick as possible using the Autobahn, for example. Some of our "Bundesstraßen" (I don't know the english counterpart of that) allow speeds of 120 to 130kph (75-82mph). I am not a friend of excessive speeding but I think that it is pretty helpful to know how a bike reacts when you're doing more than 70mph. And I expect a modern bike to take care of those speeds without bad surprises.
Even my old 125 did 90. Although it certainly pays to be mindful of speed and ride within your limits, others will exceed your speed range (for whatever reason) and need to know what to expect when done on the regular. Horses to courses; as long as we all exercise common sense, I guess.
About once a week.
This Bmw with Rotax engine, belt maitenance free and 90NM at 5800rpm with wet weight 213kg was masterpiece. Even today is no motorcycle with better stats Nm/rpm vs weight.
Touring isn't about speed. Europe has decent speed limits and people stick to them, to a certain degree, unlike over here. So...
Buy a 2007 Z1000 for £3500-4000 .
Fit a bigger front sprocket £10, taller screen £70, gel seat insert £40, a new SHAD pillion seat mount and box £200, then go to Kent, across France to Belgium easily. Strip it all off when you get back and still look well-hard.
As other have said I loved to have seen the Sprint GT involved. I think you got your maths wrong on the Yamaha.
Still think my vfr800fi (5th gen) tops the lot for fast, fun yet civilised touring.
Agreed.Mine is still strong though scruffy at 77k.
No
OK .. nice spread of brands but look to UK for the Triumphs ... I have a sprint GT 1050 at £8.5k ... best value in the price band.... always look at the cost over the tester opinion
Hmm. I was expecting the Tiger 800 (non XC) that is the one I've been comparing the F800GT to...
Good Video, thanks for that.
f800 v fazer v ???? dullvill. you guys really do make my head scratch. tw bikes are sporty tourers and one is from the dark ages. way ta go mcn. finger on the pulse as usual
Should've been the NC750 or the VFR for Honda?
Wayne Large what about the Dl650 vstrom? I love mine after trying a number of bikes
Good bikes the strom.
Bit top heavy and the finish isn't great
If you're not looking for big thrills, defenetly the Honda is the best buy. Is just comfortable, reliable and keeping costs in low budget all the time. Under my personal opinion and needs is my best choice.
...meah culpa Kevin, you're right - sorry about that. consider myself humble-pied :)
@kyle ; I wasn't complaining about the actual review of the bikes though - my comments about the machines are about the machines themselves - I think the YT reviews are a great idea.
thx
Where's the vfr800??
In my garage.......and yours I assume........brilliant bike!
Suzuki 650 V-Strom Adventure not a fit to the comparisons ?
Say you guys wanted to cross America, west to east and back. For comfort and fuel mileage, what would you recommend?
Appreciate pump regularly naifmh clinic.
doughvil?
Good job :)
What's happened to MCN reviews? I've bought three new bikes in three year based on previous testers review - I fell asleep here...
That's not a competitor to the deauville for me, it's more similar to the CBF 1000.
Ok like for touring (if i can describe it as touring :P) of max 200km would it be still uncomfortable??? Im talking about the Fazer 8!
How old are you?
...what on earth is going with the sound from 02:55 on ? Sounds like a building site - v hard to hear the commentary.......................and how can the BMW have a high cruising speed but then you tell us it vibrates all over above 80/90 ?? MPG seems poor on the Honda too - only 43mpg ?? Even your figure of 53 for the BMW seems way below anecdotal, and a long way below an F800R I rented for a weekend a while ago.......
F800gt vs deauville?? NOT the VFR?
Or a 2012 V-Strom 650 that gives you (gives me in fact) about 65-70 MPG (UK gallons) 2-up with luggage.
That said, I live in Japan where 100KPH (63MPH) is 25% over the highest speed limit in the country.
I did a non-stop (except for fuel) 500 kilometre ride with my lady on the back and a full top-box at about 100KPH on the motorway here and it gave me 30.1 kilometres a litre.
Beat that with these bikes?
No chance.
Great tip, thanks. I've checked this bike out and it meets a lot of my criteria. I hope the riding position is a bit roomier than the SV650S tho, as that's a little cramped for me. Cheers.
+Rob S Yeah, I think the engine for both the earlier and later DL650 'v-strom' bikes are very similar indeed to the one in the SV650. If so, you already have an impression of smoothness and power.
I find that the strom is plenty quick enough, smooth enough (unless I am riding badly), smooth-handling enough and economical for me and what I expect from a mid-sized road bike (despite its silly adventure bike marketing).
I say with hand on heart that if you buy a new or properly serviced 2nd hand 2012/650 strom, you'll not find many things to moan about.
I am only 5 foot 6 inches tall, so I had the bike lowered by the dealer before I took hold of it, and, unless I am riding in very awkward conditions and with a passenger (say, trying to do a u-turn from a stop, or hold it steady on an uneven surface facing downhill and handles turned rady to turn the bike) it handles smoothly and without effort even at low speed and in traffic.
Hope you find what you want. Enjoy.
Rob S I have a Dl650 too and it's a great bike. lots of room , comfortable and reliable too. I upgraded the seat with extra padding for long miles but I do that to all bikes I've had. try a Dl650 if you get a chance
Out of the 3 bikes tested, I'd have the BMW. It looks the best for a start. I am not keen on the Honda at all and 64bhp is a disappointment.
one bad ass bike
Money doesn't matter that much, when you are searching a bike for a long timespan of your life.
But you're absolutely right: They should also have included the Triumphs!
What is the equivalent of the Honda Deauville and the Yamaha PhaseArray (sp?) in the US?
the yamaha fz-8 and honda nt700v and the spelling is fazer-8 (either way it sounds like something Kirk would set to stun)
Fektthis Thanks. Interestingly both are not available in the US ;-)
Krish Mohan no problemo. they're the same bikes just the names are different.
Fektthis
We don't have that Honda in North America
Nowell Holmes We did. As I already stated it was called the NT700. You can still find them used. Google is your friend (and overlord)
I have a 2020 ZZR1400....I wouldn't swap it for any of these....
Where is the triumph?
wasnt it the honda thats was dodgy above 80?
There is no centrestand on that FZ8..
really poor choice of bikes to put up against the BMW. Many others out there that fit the touring slot that could have been better tested. What was there no representation from more niche makes that work well?
This guy had to be paid to say the bmw is better bike then the fazer, because this is not true. I own a fz and my buddy owns the bmw, and we both agree that the fz is much better bike all around. The bmw is gutless on the highways compare to the old r1 motor on the fz, it has way better top end then the f800. Test drive one yourself to see
Jeez.. your comment sums up exactly why BMW riders (and drivers for that matter) are pretty much full of Billy Sollox. Should we, 'low-brow' commoners, thank you for your grace and wisdom that you shared with us by commenting on youtube? Please tell us, where shall we send the cognac and cigars to, as a token of our everlasting gratitude.
but does not beat the Ducati 1198 SP
1:25 I see an ALIEN
yes and Im guessing triumph is better replacement...hahahahah
Someone must have accidentally edited this video just before they said "...but the Triumph Street Triple is still the leader of the class".
What does a Street Triple has to do with Sport-Touring-Bikes?
I've done a 3000 mile trip on a Street triple. It's a great bike, but not a tourer.
@@BFD15i surely you mean st1050...???
Well produced video and good presentation - enjoyed watching that, thanks. Interesting range of opinions in the comments here!
NOTE: "what it faired like" [sic] should be -> '... how it fared ...' (without the i ).
See dictionary cambridge org / dictionary / british/fare_3
I hope this helps.
This guy again... fml....
Useless comparison
Good but boring, if you know what i mean
Course hes getting paid same with 90% of reviews are based on back handers only way to judge a bike is to ride it yourself!! And Btw that bmw is shit
Mcn really was shite