Fabiano Caruana ranks Indian chess prodigies | C-Squared Podcast
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GM Cristian Chirila and Fabiano Caruana have started their new podcast channel called C-Squared Podcast. In a talk that lasted over 70 minutes, Cristian and Fabi spoke about many subjects and one of them was on the Indian chess prodigies. Fabiano Caruana is asked to rank them based on who he thinks will go the farthest. Whom did Caruana choose? Check out the video to find out.
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Arjun is the most consistent. Pragg is the only one who has the most confidence playing super GMs and has the most potential as Fabi pointed out.
arjun literally beat gazilion more super GMs OTB speed chess . he even beat fabi in lindores abbey and is the junior speed chess champion
Gukesh might be the dark horse here
@@savagehalt1555 Yes but Nihal is the white Tiger
@@thesarasohrabi Wh- that doesn't even mean anything
@@savagehalt1555 In Pokemon terms white tiger is the evolution of dark horse 😏
Fabi is just way too intelligent. Very level headed and doesn’t jump to conclusions!
Listening to Fabi speak about anything is almost cathartic. So level headed and so calm.
Absolutely spot on! For this reason he is one of my most favorite Chess players!! Right at the top!
I follow more stuff where he talks, like this or hes analyse of game. More than hes actual games
Here after Gukesh won the candidates. Man no one even betted on him then!
obviously because that time was 1year ago and these kids change fast cause they still teenagers and learning fast
00:05 It was recorded st August 2021 . Gukesh won Candidates April 2024, like 3 Years difference
I always did because he was youngest among them all and now I am very proud. Even when few months ago his rating declined from 2750s to 2720 I still rooted for him. 🥹
@@DDKKAY wtf, so gukesh was 14 and this point in time... This is just depressing....
@@Youboremenowand he only first got into chess when he was 7...then five years later grand master already and next five years candidate winner...some talent
I am glad he mentioned Arjun. He gets the least footage among the 4, while Pragg gets the most. Of course chess is so unpredictable that even Caruana might get it wrong, but I am happy for the confidence boost Erigaisi is going to get from this
I would Gukesh gets the least footage he only came into highlight after olympiad
Yeah gukesh gets least footage
The first time I heard about gukesh was the kid who doesn't use engine. Arjun has been in the limelight since tata steel. Pragg actually became famous when he was about to be the youngest gm and couldn't make it by a few months. Nihal I think is the most famous tho
Pragg deserves it.
@@nishantsingh7453 Not anymore :D
Pragg hardly played rating tournaments last 2 years. if he played as much tournaments as others did last 2 years, he would be around 2730 easily.
Easily....... Nah.. Lots of hardwork
@@unkown753 all of them work very hard.
He played Dubai open and he got 3rd
Look at him now, not only for 2 years
And now winning over Hikaru and Fabi
Arjun Erigaisi is curremtly the most consistent among youngesters. For Gukesh, I think in couple of ywats he will be virtually unbeaten.
aged like fine wine
If you are watching this after 11 months where both Arjun and Pragg put up an epic fight in the current world cup, you would know how far Fabi sees in to the future. Pragg even went on to defeat him in the semis so he knows that even his mortality is also inevitable from this younger generation, especially this stream of stormy Indian prodigies
Pragg was lucky beating Arjun. Arjun was who made big mistakes. On the other side, Gukesh was the only who brought hard battle to Magnus. Also Gukesh is indian no. 1 classical.
@@pabelhernandez6186yk what others haven't seen and he did it he won the candidates🤧🤧
Fabi never forgets the draw by nihal with him grand swiss and win by arjun in blitz against him .
Also when you play against someone you'll do your homework about playing style from previous games etc which gives him good insight.
Top level chess (top 10-15) iam guessing would be very different for our young players than they have faced so far as others will be better prepared. All the best to them, definitely hoping one of them to be a world champion some day like Fabi said.
Nihal was totally lost in this game
Oh yes, I remember that one at the Grand Swiss. Round 2 was it?
@@rachit6366 something like that
@@rachit6366 Yep. Nihal managed a draw out of a losing position
In classical chess,nihal is very solid player.He is unbeaten in last 50+ matches.very solid ,but 60- 70% of these matches end up in draw.Which is why he stuck in the late 2600's.
In general if he is playing in your team ,he will guarantee minimum a draw (half points) in all games.But a slow progress in his individual rating.
I wish he will play more agreesive in classical,rather than playing for draw.Thats the difference between his classical and blitz rating.
He's Anish giri of the lot in the Indian youngsters
Nihal is next level,, he is more tactical player and adoptive in every risky position rather playing already prepared line.
Pragg would be the one, he would turn into a grinding machine, winning most of his games due to endgame power.
Spot on.. here he is in final with magnus
*This aged well. Pragg defeated Caruana at the Chess World Cup.*
not really I guess, Gukesh won the candidates
Both were different tournaments buddy @@pravarp
@@Sid.R2 One matters just a tiny bit more than the other
Chacha time bhi dekhlo comments ke @@pravarp
@@ss87344yahi toh irony thi ki this aged well iykyk gukesh ko sbse low rkha tha but he did something unimaginable
Most probably Gukesh will come at the top because he dare to play complicated positions. His results might be inconsistent in coming years although he is training his mind in such a way that to play any complicated position, this would make him super stronger than anyone calculate
Well my friend
You were right even more than you thought
Great prediction, how did you sense it?
What a prediction! Here after he becomes the youngest ever candidates winner.
Nailed it
@@sravanthch2879 even more great prediction as of now
arjuns consistency makes him different from others in the list he doesnt lose games that easyly , he fights till the end
most importantly he is good in all the three formats .
but its hard to say who makes to the top out of these youngsters , im happy if any of these becomes the world chmp one day .
i hope everyone of these ypoung guns makes into top 10 soon and show the world what they are capable of
in classical format, they mostly loose as they dont wish to go for a draw, except arjun.
arjun rarely do that, and he did that against arvind in dubai open. he had a chance to draw.
Pragg lost his game in dubai open, when he attempted to go for a win, even though he knew he may loose. he had the chance to go for a draw;
he said it in the interview , exact position which he would have played if he wished a draw.
after that game, pragg became more cautious. next couple of games, he drew, avoiding such risk taking options.
so, its more to do with their wanting to win always, they learn from their losses.
@@vipulgupta true. even pragg need to learn to accept draws instead of risking and ending up losing the game.
@@vipulgupta arvind chitambaram seems to be as good.
had he got a chance to play in olympiad, am sure he would have done as good as pragg or gukesh.
he is also good in blitz...
@@vipulgupta very unfortunate!
probably, he didnt get good sponsors i guess, like pragg.
gukesh is kind of well to do family i guess.
may b arvind is not so...
and such situations, forces one to pursue normal careers in which he may not be brilliant as he is in chess.
I think people like sagar (CBI) should have spoken to him, and could have persuaded him to be in competetive chess, as otherwise, inspite of so many players, coaches etc, if none of them help such a player in times of lack of focus, whats the use?
@@vipulgupta yes, i saw that interview too. sagar himself mentions that he was like a prodigy some ten years back...
sometimes, one may not wish to express such matters.
anyway, still he is only 22 and can do well.
Arjun be like: bhot maja aa riya hai, dil garden garden ho riya hai😅😅
But to be very honest, it's impossible to pick one amoung this 4-5
All are just tooooooo good
Hahahaha true
Having those words from 3rd highest rated player in world is good
For you ,not for top players
the last line by Caruana- " I wouldn't say Pragg is a top player but he might be some day soon"
and 11 months later, Caruana loses to Pragg in World cup semi finals
It's not just Christian's podcast, Fabi is also a co-owner of it and not just a guest. Please fix the description. Hence, C-Squared. :)
Agreed. It would be a bigger draw if Fabi got top billing.
If pragg work on his pressure management or feel more confident before the match then I'm dead sure that he can beat anyone in the world
Well, he is beating everyone
I feel very happy that Caruana also think same like me. Arjun also is my favorite among them. And also my second Pragnanandha. They are all great though
Fabi's analysis of Indian players is head on! 🔥
Excellent work by two excellent people.
I Personally feel that among Arjun Nihal Pragg and Gukesh...Arjun has great understanding of the the game...His play style is Universal
Great to see this after Pragg's effort at the World Championship. Onwards!
I am watching this podcast after pragg forced tiebreaks with Fabiano in FIDE worldcup semifinals
I'm here after he beat Fabi
Now gukesh won the candidates
Congratulations to him🎉
Arjun looks like a proper prospect to challenge that 2800 make Idk Gukesh where he beat top class player but also looses to 2560-2620 ordinary players
2560-2620 are not ordinary players. On a good day they can upset really strong players.
If I remember rightly, he lost on time despite having good positions..?
Wow, this is so interesting looking at after Gukesh winning the candidates! Great insights from Fabi!
Its funny how now in the worlds cup hes gotta play one of the two of erigaisi and prag to face in the semifinals
"I wouldn't say he's a top player, but someday soon" -- and 11 months later, here we are. Pragg has just beaten Fabi to set up a finale with Magnus at the World Cup!
Though Arjun,Gukesh,Pragg are top favourites, I will bet on Nihal
I think, Nihal needs to work on his health to go further. He looks very weak and frail. He needs good training and diet regime. Chesswise, he has the best understanding among youngsters. But we all kmow the importance of phyaicial fitness in chess.
@@sushilganesh07 considering what instances , did you say he has the best understanding , i guess all four have really good understanding but its hard to say one is above the rest...
@@rajenderreddyjannapally3069 Nihal is unbeaten is his last 50+ Classical games.
@@jethalalgada1132 wow really?
@@jethalalgada1132 nihal lost once and won 20 times in last 50 games ...
Loss came against muradli mohammad
Arjun won 23 times and lost 3 times in his last 50 games
Gukesh lost 10 times and won 25 times .
Pragg has won 33 games and lost 2
Although point to be considered both gukesh and arjun played relatively higher rated opponents.
Everybody talks about Arjun, Gukesh, Nihal and Pragg...even Rounak, Leon etc...These guyz a very strong, no doubt....BUT Aravindh Chidambaram is equally strong but never gets deserved appreciation...rather he has been the most neglected player among all these talks, discussions about Indian young talents in Chess...probably in a yr or two, he should start to get deserved limelight...
He didn't get the spot light because he is not aged below 20...But I agree that he is a strong player
@@Chess_Bruh true....but hez not tht old too...hez just 23...and if one looks at his performance in last yr or two, u will see hw strong he is...even in recent Dubai open, recent rapid and blitz championship where many of these young champs wr also a part of, he grabbed a gold..
Similar case in SL Narayanan. He is also from same era as Aravind chithambaram. SLN is in top10 Indian list still you hear very less about him
You enter the 2700 bracket and everyone will take notice or otherwise just beat Magnus Carlsen a few times and even the Prime Minister will talk about you. 😀
The exact ranking that I always thought of...
Arjun
Pragg
Gukesh
Nihal
This aged bad😂😂
@@noamlevy-ok6si Not at all... Even after Gukesh winning the Candidates or maybe the WC, it doesn't age bad or good according to these things...
Ding is the Champion *but we know....*
Fabi can start his own podcast... He is just too pleasant to listen to
According to Fabi:
Arjun> Pragg> Gukesh
According to Me(ik no one cares/asked about my opinion):
Pragg> Arjun > Gukesh
According to me : Gukesh > Pragg
> Arjun > Vidit
Hmmmm
Here after Gukesh won
Exactly one year after, on 21 August 2023, Praggnanandhaa beats Caruana to book a place in the FIDE World Cup Final against Magnus Carlsen. Insane!
Also fabi bet him when needed in candidate
Yes , chess is too volatile..result is Gukesh😂😂
Fabi is always calm never excited on the board and off board.
Just curious, where was the recording made?
The cicadas have a strong voice!
Even magun told gukesh is the strongest classical player now. I m waiting for gukesh to be the world champion in near future
jai jagannath bhaina sata hei gala katha
I would also pick Arjun he's balanced b/w all 3 format
Gukesh very hot streak is still very much going..
I will bet on Nihal ❤️
Now in FIDE World Cup, Pragg managed to go past both Arjun and Fabi to eventually end up as Runner just short of Magnus..
That's some incredible feat ❤
Need a follow up interview after the semi finals
00:05 It was recorded at August 2021, and Gukesh won the Candidates April 2024 like 3 Years difference 4:31 ranking them
He said August 21st. The year was 2022.
Erigaisi is a beast! Soo cool headed as well!
fabiona is very intelligent and his views are close to fact,
Sagar is very proud for them
All these four are superb/extraordinary chess players . But they are still evolving and learning . Therefore , it may be impossible to make predictions . But I am happy that so many of Indian players are being discussed by one of the top chess experts .
I am back here again after prag beat Fabiano in the finals😭😭
2:01 🤣🤣🤣 he said who is gonna to take the cherry 🤣🤣🤣
Nice judgment
any rankings or tierlist made by Fabi seems to be legit
Fabi is just brilliant with his views and insights about these prodigies having played against some of them... But in terms of winning world championships in any format or reaching 2800 i believe it would be Arjun > Gukesh > Nihal > Pragg in that order.
His analysis i not aging well though it is tough to predict who could do well in years ahead as it is up to the each of the player push for more training.
Almost an year later and Gukesh is now world's top 7
and prag is worldcup semi finalist
@@afbdredsthough he took down Hikaru, he didn't have to face Carlsen.. gukesh unlucky that way
@@arun-it9gr Now he is in Finals
@@spark5010and now Gukesh won the freaking candidates
After the one year of time frame with his potential Pragg beats Fabi In Semi final of world Championship🏆 ❤
how C-Squared Podcast to
ChessBase India?
11 months to the future and then Pragnanandha knocks out Fabi from the World Cup Semifinals. 😉😜😝. Good prediction Fabi. PS: Gukesh seems to have clinched the Top player title with a 2758 rating and World number 8
Pragg is better in Rapid
Nihal is better in Blitz
Gukesh is better in Classical
Arjun Erigaisi - better in every format 🔥🔥😀
Potential wise Pragg is better than every one
@@ilangovane ya in some games he is a beasts but in some he blunders.if he can work on that he would be stronger
rapid vs blitz what diff?
only time will tell who remains most consistent.
as of now, all of them look good.
@@kshitij3209 they mostly loose as they dont wish to go for a draw, except arjun.
arjun rarely do that, he did that against arvind in dubai open.
Pragg lost his game in dubai open, when he attempted to go for a win, even though he knew he may loose. he had the chance to go for a draw;
he said it in the interview , exact position which he would have played if he wished a draw.
after that game, he became more cautious. next couple of games, he drew, avoiding such risk taking options.
so, its more to do with their wanting to win always, they learn from their losses.
By some day soon he meant 08/21/2023
Are there dozens of cicada in the studio?
I’m here after Gukesh won the Candidates
Who’s here after Prag’s win today?🎉❤😊
Why put the loud noise in the background? its not there in the original video :-/
Arjun Erigaisi. Just remember this name!!
Just got recommended on top feed😂
Why are there Cicada sounds in the background?
HE PICKED THE RIGHT GUY.ARJUN YET TO DELIVER A BIG WIN n SHOCK THE FETRNITY.HAS POTENTIAL. HOPE HE WILL SOON.
Well...after all this...Guki is Candidates Winner. Hail King Guki ❤❤
Yeah agree with Fabiano..
Who are all seeing this interview after Pragg winning the semi finals (TB) in opposition to Fabi in Chess WC 2023 👍👍👍
Meee😂
Why do you have holes in your trousers. This looks very disrespectful. Fabi was very good, agreeing to answer your questions
Love the fact that the host is promoting Mexican Karate through a chess interview :)
I thought they were talking about the Fide World cup until the last minute 😂
though all of them are good., we will come to know probably, in couple of years, how consistent they are and where they would be standing.
in classical format, they mostly lose as they dont wish to go for a draw, except arjun.
arjun rarely do that, and he did that against arvind in dubai open. he had a chance to draw.
Pragg lost his game in dubai open, when he attempted to go for a win, even though he knew he may loose. he had the chance to go for a draw;
he said it in the interview , exact position which he would have played if he wished a draw.
after that game, pragg became more cautious. next couple of games, he drew, avoiding such risk taking options.
so, its more to do with their wanting to win always, they learn from their losses.
in rapid/blitz chess, i think all of them are good, they may occasionally loose if opponent(may be in top 10 - 15) plays great..
Nihal is a very solid and consistent player. His rise would be slow but I believe he can churn draws out of a 2600 player too and a 2800 player too
it's not 'loose'. It's 'lose'. Loose is the opposite of tight, and lose is the opposite of win.
@@HarishKini error while typing. thnks.
I hope arjun breaks into top 10 in all formats by 2023 n go onto become world champion from india after vishy .
1 year later Gukesh proved you wrong. Not even 18 years old. Congrats Guki!
some day soon...has come.
Here after Gukesh becoming world no.7😌
Pragg defeated caruana today is semi finals
Tomorrow he goes against magnus in finals❤
Oml the cicadas are so loud
Pragg said he is underated in blitz not classical if I recollect correctly
no broda, he actually was talking about classical not blitz
I just look it up. Yes he was talking about his classical.
he didnt mean he deserved higher rating as such, but just that he needs to play more to improve his score in classical.
i think fabi understood it wrongly.
Attendance- After Gukesh won the candidates ❤
Here afer Pragg defeating Fabi in the world cup Semifinals🥳.!!!
Gukesh beat him in candidates 2024.
Who is here after pragg beating fabi😊
It's sad to see nihal fall down the ladder🥲 but i am sure he will be right back in the conversation soon
Nihal didn't fall; he has only improved and gained rating. It's just that others climbed past him insanely fast.
@@anuraglamichhane1733 Not really. He had a pretty bad slump this year. We expected him to be 2700 by now in Sec/Oct 2021 but he didn't earn significant rating this year
@@MannanGoel Not really what? His rating has fallen? When? I never talked about your expectations, but it's a fact that he's not lost rating, only gained. The rating he has right now is his current peak.
@@anuraglamichhane1733 Courtesy the month of September. He has only lost net rating from January to August. Only that one Bundesliga game against Shakhriyar was the highlight of those months
Wish you reply to this with the same passion you had in your previous reply. Little info is more dangerous than none.
It's a morning for India chess. What India has is over 75+ chess GMs, and almost 1.5 times that International masters, with more being minted every other day. It has a great, vibrant chess ecosystem. A country with a great ecosystem will prevail, and we're only now beginning to see that. That is also a big burden off the chest of Vishy, who almost singlehandedly carried India in the chess world and put it squarely on the chess map.
hopefully this will happen in China as well, where Ding Liren is also single handedly carrying the weight of chinese chess in the open section. I hope he inspires an incredible new generational wave of chinese gms racing to the top. And I hope Hou Yifan comes back from retirement, so we can continue to see more strong female GMs come from china.
Gukesh is like a small cap stock which turned out to be a multibagger, and noone saw that coming not magnus not fabi.
I am here after Pragg beat Fabi in World Cup Semi final 2023.
Gukesh will change everyone’s thinking,, and become top player in the world,,
Raunak Sadhwani: Am I a joke to you? 😭
I think, Nihal needs to work on his health to go further. He looks very weak and frail. He needs good training and diet regime. Chesswise, he has the best understanding among youngsters. But we all kmow the importance of phyaicial fitness in chess.
That's our Squad for Next Olympiad
Arjun, Guki, Pragg, Nihal... oooooffff🔥
9th june 2024 live rating:
#4 Arjun
#6 Gukesh
#8 Praggu
Fabi picks Arjun. This must have motivated Gukesh to win the Candidates 🙂
I feel arjun Nihal and pragg will be in top 20 soon
Christian has a cool dressing style