Koch Chemie made a really great choice using that guy as a USA manager/wholesaler. Extremely knowledgeable, knows his products backwards, seems totally approachable. Thanks for the video Josh. Always love the content. Hello all from Down Under Australia... Straya!.. oi oi oi...
Could you please explain the difference between and acid wheel cleaner and the Alkaline one? They are both chemically opposite but seems to produce similar results... Seems like an acid wheel cleaner is very strong but could potentially damage some wheels. What's the case of the alkaline?
An Alkaline pH will remove all residues of organic origin, such as road dirt, oil, gnats and organic residues. An Acid pH will remove all residues of inorganic origin, such as limescale, water marks and acid rain residues
My go to tire cleaner for the longest time has been Eagle One AtoZ tire and wheel cleaner. That stuff gets expensive and is harder to find. In my experience that stuff does a great job of cutting thru grimy buildup on the tire. I recently bought Adam's Tire and Rubber cleaner to see if it can replace the Eagle One. For tire cleaner, I always look at buying 1/2 gallons or full gallons since I go thru so much of it. Crossing my fingers on Adam's to fit my needs.
For hardened grease it’s best to do a wheels off cleaning. Citrol 266 is pretty good for grease and tar. Or you could use whatever high alkaline cleaner you have and alternate between that and a tar remover. I haven’t found anything that will take that kind of stuff off in one step. Although Mcguiars Ultimate wheel and tire is a great product that kind of does it all. The downside is that you will go thru that $14 dollar bottle on one set of super dirty wheels and you might not get everything if the wheels are on the car.
It’s no comparison…MWC is a strong wheel cleaner that you spray on (don’t rinse with water before), let dwell, spray off (don’t even need to agitate)…brake buster isn’t even close…I say this all the time, I prefer Adam’s wheel and tire cleaner over brake buster
Im in Europe, and we basically don't have any Adams over here... This explains why. Btw: I think Adams W&T is more 13,5 or so. Brakebuster is 12ish. But as Pan T O explained, if you've coated your wheels, you probably want to stick with Brakebuster or similar products with a pH of 12ish or lower.
I haven’t tried this product but I’ve been using Adam’s wheel cleaner and a little bit of degreaser in my IK foamer and all the brown comes out of the tires right away so when I don’t add degreaser the foam just stays white so the degreaser from 3D works well in the tire foam. I do see this one does brown out as well but the alkaline feature is nice with this product though. Now for that tire glaze since it’s silicone based does that absorb and leech the tire oils eventually having them crack and dry rot? I think that’s why most of us use the water based tire dressings.
And alkaline wheel cleaner will remove spray on/rinse off ceramic coatings. Acid typically affects them less, but would be okay for a wheel coated with a real ceramic coating
This brand is absolutely fire! Women like to online shop for clothes and shoes and put a bunch of shit in their cart that they’re never gonna buy. I do the same thing but with this brand only difference is that I actually throw my paycheck at it lol they can have all my money. I kind of got in a slump with detailing over the last couple weeks because it hasn’t been very fun for me lately but two weekends ago I got a couple of their products for the first time, and it’s hands-down the best stuff I’ve ever used
Does the awh need to be foamed on only or can it be sprayed on as well? Is it just preference? I just got some and want to mix it up, not sure of foamer or sprayer? Thank you for the great content.
Hey Josh where do you announce your giveaway winners? I entered into both the hose giveaway and the polisher giveaway and haven’t seen any announcements on the winners. TIA
Thanks for your video. This is a lazy end user question (lazy because I could spend hours searching online), but couldn't help but want t ask, what exactly is the "brown" stuff that comes off of tires in almost all of the various wheel cleaning product videos? Is that the same reaction when sprayed on brand new tires?
Antiozonant is added to the rubber to mitigate damage from ozone such as cracking. When antiozonant oxidizes it turns brown and this process is called blooming. Tire cleaners remove the oxidation. Whether new tires will still have brown suds from tire cleaner I do not know
@@xxslayer255xx Thanks for your reply to my question. While I understand wanting to remove the oxidation for esthetic purposes, wonder if there is any negative consequence of aggressively removing it from our tires.. do we get prettier tires that end up cracking sooner? Just curious.
@@HoomanR17 im not a chemist by any means, but my understanding on blooming is that the brown from oxidized antiozonant is a byproduct of the reaction which protects the tire. By this, the browning is not a benefit nor a detriment to tire protection: merely a consequence of it. The following is my own interpretation based on what I have read from Dr. Beasley's article called "Why Are My Tires Brown": Removing blooming does not harm the tire unless an overly aggressive cleaning method or solution is used which damages the rubber. If reasonable care is taken and reasonable chemicals are used, then there should be no harm to the rubber. Finally, blooming can be mitigated through using tire dressings, but I have read from more than just Dr Beasley's that some silicone-based tire dressings can cause premature cracking in the rubber. I often see water-based tire dressings recommended instead because of this. I personally use Chemical Guys VRP for dressing my tires as it is cheap, easy to apply, dilutable if need be, and isn't overly shiny. Im 99% sure it is water-based as well. In the past I used Meguiars Endurance Tire Gel but I did not like how it applied, looked, and it is silicone-based. The Dr. Beasley's article recommends their own dressing called Tire Conditioner which is more expensive than VRP, but likely is a better product as the people at Dr Beasley's tend to value science more than most companies I see in the detailing industry and outside of it. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask!
That’s a great question and I don’t have an exact answer to it. Magic wheel is a bit more potent I believe but reactive wheel also works great and it’s a slightly better value!
I have 2 questions. Have you ever used tc ceramic detail spray on fiberglass shower wall? Is it safe for fiberglass? 2nd I read an article claiming to use a spray wax as a tire shine? Any thoughts? Thanks
Hey Josh, I had reached out before. Does Casey have an email or something I can reach out to him? Have a product question and KCx in Atlanta couldn’t help. They suggested reaching out to a rep if I knew them? LMK please. Ty.
Absolute best wheel rim cleaner money can buy is Superior wheel acid at o'reillys auto store for $20 per gallon. Of course if the rims are aluminum you would not use an acid base cleaner. but this is the best.
😂. Right The problem is they are appealing on fear. You fear missing out. And in return you have a lighter wallet and too much crap in your garage We never even had any level of this technology 20 years ago. Yet we’re still unsatisfied
Exactly! It simply gets overwhelming. To the point of not caring. I want something to use as a treatment for my 45 year old vinyl top. Something that lasts a bit longer than the 2 weeks I get out of 303! So, which product do I use?
Hey guys don’t forget about Hyde’s Rustopper for the brake rotor. It prevents oxidation and flash rust. If you would like me to send you samples I can.
Koch Chemie FB is the best wheel cleaner, 5 litres for £50. PSS I use on tyres and all exterior grey/black plastics, excellent water repellent properties. No need for these products no matter how much they dress their usage up.
Not sure if you made a video of these or not ,but aren't those blue colored bottles on that rack just over your left shoulder koch chemie products also??
Need an answer as my wheels are worth significantly more than my expensive tires... Can KCx MWC safely be used on matte finished wheels (not tires) [ref: Honda HPD model # 08W18-TGS-100A]? An honest answer is greatly appreciated.
Koch Chemie made a really great choice using that guy as a USA manager/wholesaler. Extremely knowledgeable, knows his products backwards, seems totally approachable. Thanks for the video Josh. Always love the content.
Hello all from Down Under Australia... Straya!.. oi oi oi...
got all 4 products and love them all! they all have their purposes! Thanks again for the content!
I’ve been looking at TG on that counter for the longest. Thanks for the intro. I’m interested. PSS has been my go to for my tires.
Try nighthawk brand USA sgs dressing!! You’ll love it!
Could you please explain the difference between and acid wheel cleaner and the Alkaline one? They are both chemically opposite but seems to produce similar results... Seems like an acid wheel cleaner is very strong but could potentially damage some wheels. What's the case of the alkaline?
An Alkaline pH will remove all residues of organic origin, such as road dirt, oil, gnats and organic residues.
An Acid pH will remove all residues of inorganic origin, such as limescale, water marks and acid rain residues
@@SB-ed8scSomeone send this guy free stuff for that killer answer. 🔥 (if they don't, I will) 👀
@@SB-ed8scwhat category does brake dust fall under
@@madddvillain use an alkaline.
If i spray Super Clean on on my tires and Awh on my rims on a weekly basis, is a 10:1 ratio good or even 20:1 with the Awh?
My go to tire cleaner for the longest time has been Eagle One AtoZ tire and wheel cleaner. That stuff gets expensive and is harder to find. In my experience that stuff does a great job of cutting thru grimy buildup on the tire. I recently bought Adam's Tire and Rubber cleaner to see if it can replace the Eagle One. For tire cleaner, I always look at buying 1/2 gallons or full gallons since I go thru so much of it. Crossing my fingers on Adam's to fit my needs.
Great video bro - was wondering the differences
🔥💯Which one can I use safely on matte finish rims ?
Checking in brother! Top tier products coming from KCX
Great comparison video thanks!
What is the shelf life on each of these products?
MWC is the GOAT for non-acid brake dust removal.
What applicators would you recommend to apply Tg in tires and for the PSs on plastics? Ty for wonderful videos.
How does the alkaline wheel cleaner compare to using green star on the wheels and tire?
The Awh is probably quite a bit more potent than Gs.
What would you recommend for help cleaning harded CV grease that has been sitting on wheels forever?
For hardened grease it’s best to do a wheels off cleaning. Citrol 266 is pretty good for grease and tar. Or you could use whatever high alkaline cleaner you have and alternate between that and a tar remover. I haven’t found anything that will take that kind of stuff off in one step. Although Mcguiars Ultimate wheel and tire is a great product that kind of does it all. The downside is that you will go thru that $14 dollar bottle on one set of super dirty wheels and you might not get everything if the wheels are on the car.
Tar remover or solvent.
Hey Josh what do you recommend to clean wood trimming in the interior?? I've always been afraid to use any chemical on it.
Would like to see a review P+S Brake buster v.s KC MWC
It’s no comparison…MWC is a strong wheel cleaner that you spray on (don’t rinse with water before), let dwell, spray off (don’t even need to agitate)…brake buster isn’t even close…I say this all the time, I prefer Adam’s wheel and tire cleaner over brake buster
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I use both and MWC is a better product in my opinion. Not to mention MWC has an iron remover capability.
pH14?? Dang Adams Wheel and Tire is pH 12 and it's goated.
Im in Europe, and we basically don't have any Adams over here... This explains why. Btw: I think Adams W&T is more 13,5 or so. Brakebuster is 12ish. But as Pan T O explained, if you've coated your wheels, you probably want to stick with Brakebuster or similar products with a pH of 12ish or lower.
What would you use on bronze wheels?
Is it bad if the wheel cleaner spray reaches the brake disc?
Green star and the occasional use of Reactive Rust Remover works for me.
Can a ceramic coating like dlux or c4 be applied over pss?
I haven’t tried this product but I’ve been using Adam’s wheel cleaner and a little bit of degreaser in my IK foamer and all the brown comes out of the tires right away so when I don’t add degreaser the foam just stays white so the degreaser from 3D works well in the tire foam. I do see this one does brown out as well but the alkaline feature is nice with this product though. Now for that tire glaze since it’s silicone based does that absorb and leech the tire oils eventually having them crack and dry rot? I think that’s why most of us use the water based tire dressings.
Great information Josh-Thank You! What do you recommend for steel rims used on summer and/or winter tires? All the best from 🇨🇦
does the alkali wheel cleaner damage existing si02 wheel protectant or rim shield if used as a a maint. cleaner thanks Love Koch Chemie products
And alkaline wheel cleaner will remove spray on/rinse off ceramic coatings. Acid typically affects them less, but would be okay for a wheel coated with a real ceramic coating
This brand is absolutely fire! Women like to online shop for clothes and shoes and put a bunch of shit in their cart that they’re never gonna buy. I do the same thing but with this brand only difference is that I actually throw my paycheck at it lol they can have all my money. I kind of got in a slump with detailing over the last couple weeks because it hasn’t been very fun for me lately but two weekends ago I got a couple of their products for the first time, and it’s hands-down the best stuff I’ve ever used
Sound like a high rider. If you can’t be happy using the same product for a decade. You’re got addiction to short term pleasure…..
@@ssing7113therapist n shit 😂
@@ssing7113good schooling tho
I’m curious what your thoughts are on mwc compared to the chemical guys two face wheel cleaner.
at 3:49 the product seems to just stripped off the chunk of the color of the alloy wheel?
Looks like rim rash 😳
so would you use Awh over Green Star for the wheel cleaning?
Does the awh need to be foamed on only or can it be sprayed on as well? Is it just preference? I just got some and want to mix it up, not sure of foamer or sprayer? Thank you for the great content.
Hello, what do you recommend water based or synthetic tire dressing and why .thanks
Can the alkaline cleaner be used on the tire and wheel?
Hey Josh where do you announce your giveaway winners? I entered into both the hose giveaway and the polisher giveaway and haven’t seen any announcements on the winners. TIA
How is Awh vs GreenStar performing on Tire Rubber? As Greenstar is also a alkali cleaner?
Yea GS is a higher ph cleaner and you could get away with using that.
Thanks for your video. This is a lazy end user question (lazy because I could spend hours searching online), but couldn't help but want t ask, what exactly is the "brown" stuff that comes off of tires in almost all of the various wheel cleaning product videos? Is that the same reaction when sprayed on brand new tires?
Antiozonant is added to the rubber to mitigate damage from ozone such as cracking. When antiozonant oxidizes it turns brown and this process is called blooming. Tire cleaners remove the oxidation. Whether new tires will still have brown suds from tire cleaner I do not know
@@xxslayer255xx Thanks for your reply to my question. While I understand wanting to remove the oxidation for esthetic purposes, wonder if there is any negative consequence of aggressively removing it from our tires.. do we get prettier tires that end up cracking sooner? Just curious.
@@HoomanR17 im not a chemist by any means, but my understanding on blooming is that the brown from oxidized antiozonant is a byproduct of the reaction which protects the tire. By this, the browning is not a benefit nor a detriment to tire protection: merely a consequence of it.
The following is my own interpretation based on what I have read from Dr. Beasley's article called "Why Are My Tires Brown":
Removing blooming does not harm the tire unless an overly aggressive cleaning method or solution is used which damages the rubber. If reasonable care is taken and reasonable chemicals are used, then there should be no harm to the rubber.
Finally, blooming can be mitigated through using tire dressings, but I have read from more than just Dr Beasley's that some silicone-based tire dressings can cause premature cracking in the rubber. I often see water-based tire dressings recommended instead because of this.
I personally use Chemical Guys VRP for dressing my tires as it is cheap, easy to apply, dilutable if need be, and isn't overly shiny. Im 99% sure it is water-based as well. In the past I used Meguiars Endurance Tire Gel but I did not like how it applied, looked, and it is silicone-based.
The Dr. Beasley's article recommends their own dressing called Tire Conditioner which is more expensive than VRP, but likely is a better product as the people at Dr Beasley's tend to value science more than most companies I see in the detailing industry and outside of it.
If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask!
Josh do you still not like using silicone based products on tires?
Is that well cleaner safe for carbon brake rotors? Great video as always thanks to both of you!!!
Hey love ya vids. Big fan. I have a question...what is the difference between Magic Wheel Cleaner & Reactive Wheel Cleaner?
That’s a great question and I don’t have an exact answer to it. Magic wheel is a bit more potent I believe but reactive wheel also works great and it’s a slightly better value!
@@imjoshvhi Josh…what cleaner do you recommend for a home user, for black glossy tires?
I loved the mwc except for smell and rotors rusted that's why I use brake buster never rusts rotors
Just have to make sure your pressure washing it fully to avoid the rust
@@qualitytouchwhat? Rotors rust with water no matter what.
@@ssing7113 deez
Product effect is great
Good morning!👋😀
Is there any air compressor that would be the best option for car detailing enthusiasts?
You bet! I just did a video on that BEST AIR COMPRESSORS For Car Detailing And Home Garage - FULL TEST
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I have 5L MWC Koch chemie , how much I can dilute to 32oz
Vintage car vinyl roof. Which KochChemie product should I use on that? Been using 303 for years, but it needs reapplied frequently. GKg?
I have 2 questions. Have you ever used tc ceramic detail spray on fiberglass shower wall? Is it safe for fiberglass? 2nd I read an article claiming to use a spray wax as a tire shine? Any thoughts? Thanks
Hey Josh, I had reached out before. Does Casey have an email or something I can reach out to him? Have a product question and KCx in Atlanta couldn’t help. They suggested reaching out to a rep if I knew them? LMK please. Ty.
how does this compare to Armour detaiil supply ghost?
On average how long does Tire Glaze last? will this also work on rubber door seals, rubber houses in the engine bay etc???
Use KCX mp for engine bay or at least pss
I just used the AWH in a snow cannon and barely any suds came out.
I used 2 cups of water to 8oz of awh. Did I measure wrong? Please help?
Which product on chrome wheels and carbon fiber brakes on Corvette..... 2015
Absolute best wheel rim cleaner money can buy is Superior wheel acid at o'reillys auto store for $20 per gallon. Of course if the rims are aluminum you would not use an acid base cleaner. but this is the best.
Thank you for the final thoughts and overview section....Excellent!
Is the magic wheel cleaner safe on all wheels? I can’t find the information anywhere
Including aluminum
I’m wondering where we might go to get some answers about this company and it’s products? Many on here have specific questions.
I have to try this
At least we know how to say it now...
Right!
So is the company name really pronounced like koshemie or kokechemie?
Former
Or KCx
😉
No
Brake Buster vs AWH?
I hope they don’t turn into a Chemical Guys - 10 products that do the same thing
😂. Right
The problem is they are appealing on fear. You fear missing out. And in return you have a lighter wallet and too much crap in your garage
We never even had any level of this technology 20 years ago. Yet we’re still unsatisfied
Exactly! It simply gets overwhelming. To the point of not caring. I want something to use as a treatment for my 45 year old vinyl top. Something that lasts a bit longer than the 2 weeks I get out of 303! So, which product do I use?
Hey guys don’t forget about Hyde’s Rustopper for the brake rotor. It prevents oxidation and flash rust. If you would like me to send you samples I can.
Where can I purchase it from. Would like to use it !!
www.google.com/search?q=hyde%27s+rustopper&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1036US1036&oq=hyde%27s+rustopper&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCggAEAAY4wIYgAQyCggAEAAY4wIYgAQyCggBEC4YgAQY5QQyCAgCEAAYFhge0gEIMjIzMmowajeoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8@@blackmob5529
Koch Chemie FB is the best wheel cleaner, 5 litres for £50. PSS I use on tyres and all exterior grey/black plastics, excellent water repellent properties. No need for these products no matter how much they dress their usage up.
Not sure if you made a video of these or not ,but aren't those blue colored bottles on that rack just over your left shoulder koch chemie products also??
Yeah new line 🤟🏻 some solid things there too like cockpit, nanoshampoo and wheel cleaner
Do both wheel cleaners work on black rims?
@@CC_Marauder don’t be an asshat. Simple question.
@@CC_Marauder ok buddy. Have a good weekend
They need to get their price point down to Adams wheel and tire, brake buster, and Megs non-acid wheel cleaner
Why. To compete with Walmart brands?
These are not really some new products. They are new to the US market
These products are definitely for the weekend warriors. Not ideal for, to me, up and coming mobile detailers.
These are not weekemd warrior products. Their whole line is a professional line. This is all we run in the shop
A bit to expensive for 32oz , superior products non acid universal cleaner 25$ a gallon 4:1 dilution works the same and saves way more money then this
For me those product are to spensive. I use Super clean straight from the bottle
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IS THIS SAFE FOR BLACK WHEELS ? I HAVE RACELINE BLACK WHEELS ON MY TRUCK ..
Need an answer as my wheels are worth significantly more than my expensive tires...
Can KCx MWC safely be used on matte finished wheels (not tires) [ref: Honda HPD model # 08W18-TGS-100A]?
An honest answer is greatly appreciated.
Product idea:
Matte specific product for wheels (without trial and error [costly mistakes])
TY for the consideration ✌🏼