Repair: 0.004°C Temperature Controller Arroyo 5235 TECSource

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    In this video we take a look at various temperature controllers, most importantly an Arroyo 5235 TECSource. We take it apart, look at a few of its key components, repair it, then calibrate and test its performance. To reach it's most important 0.004°C temperature stability over 1 hour spec, a custom shielding box with a peltier cooler is machined.
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  • @leandrogerardo9521
    @leandrogerardo9521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    ' It's not even ashamed to have less digits than a clock ' 🤣🤣🤣 please never stop Marco...

  • @amciaapple1654
    @amciaapple1654 4 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    Component level repair advice in 2020 ?!!!!! OMG, I love this company already! If I ever need a temp controller, I'll make sure to give them a call. Arroyo! Arroyo!

    • @jonathanlebon9705
      @jonathanlebon9705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Same here...
      Arroyo ftw

    • @kissingfrogs
      @kissingfrogs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Barry Manilowa Damn it, Donnie. Why do you gotta get so smart on us? And its the thought that counts right?

    • @therenaissance8322
      @therenaissance8322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1000% better than Apple

    • @AlxM96
      @AlxM96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@therenaissance8322 1000% of 0 is still 0 though

    • @rjc0234
      @rjc0234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More common than you think, but depends on the industry. we have kit at our place from the late 80's that is getting old (obviously) and the company that made it still gives us advice on how to fix it. its got a "computer" in it that to erase the data on it you expose it to sunlight!

  • @acirillo59
    @acirillo59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    OH BABY! WE BACK!

  • @reps
    @reps  4 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    *temp - uh - cha*

    • @runicevan5624
      @runicevan5624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ‏‏‎

    • @skm9420
      @skm9420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah reps isn't broken yet.

    • @reps
      @reps  4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Oh btw I totally forgot to check what that thing is actually putting out:
      It's some kind of low resolution analog imgur.com/a/C09JRrJ
      Which seems to be more easily digestible for the TEC than PWM

    • @mikeissweet
      @mikeissweet 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reps Was curious about this, thanks!
      Upload more videos asap. Well, unless you're scared..

    • @txtpeer5179
      @txtpeer5179 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      btw heat can be cold !

  • @philippwie3539
    @philippwie3539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    This video is just what I need right now.

    • @daveabittner
      @daveabittner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      with the world seemingly falling apart (especially here in the US right now), it's really nice to have Marco Reps delicious auditory chocolate serenade my ear drums

  • @matiastripaldi406
    @matiastripaldi406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Is nobody gonna talk about how awesome the transition at 1:44 is? Small things that really help to make the video awesome. Thanks for your work Marco! By the way, you know there's no need to use gloves right? If you don't like to show your hands or whatever it's fine, but on our end there's no need to.

    • @Convolutedtubules
      @Convolutedtubules 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think he meant his hands reflect too much light at the camera, oversaturating the image.

    • @IamHere2468
      @IamHere2468 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      After all we still see those really white arms above those gloves!

    • @emremutlu44
      @emremutlu44 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was not paying attention to the picture and thinking like _what a clear glass, where is that tube like structure, cannot see it bruh_

    • @wesleymays1931
      @wesleymays1931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emremutlu44 it felt like a wide angle lens

  • @TheApocalyt
    @TheApocalyt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    With a good controller and temperature sensor you can make quite a good constant temperature box with surprisingly simple hardware. When still at university we made a set of constant temperature boxes with

    • @hullinstruments
      @hullinstruments 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn very high-quality yet simple solution!

  • @Yorams
    @Yorams 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I worked for a lighting rental company and we used Ethafoam to pack things in cases. Our flightcase builder used his CNC to make complex shapes for our equipment.

    • @paint4pain
      @paint4pain 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Closed Cell Polyethylene is used for tool box liners and cuts very well with a router.

  • @AlexLaskarzewski
    @AlexLaskarzewski 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    3:53 Thats the prettiest PCB I have ever seen. Im crying rn

  • @JanBabiuchHall
    @JanBabiuchHall 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    14:00 - a Community reference? My emotions, MY EMOTIONS!

  • @hyperhektor7733
    @hyperhektor7733 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    8:38 "i have to be careful with the C-Word now"
    xD xD

  • @muhammadosama3358
    @muhammadosama3358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    these dotA 2 voice lines give me life xD

  • @Bubu567
    @Bubu567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I am not even a customer"
    You are a potential future customer, which makes you exactly as valuable as someone that already gave them money.

  • @joejoe4games
    @joejoe4games 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    you know I was just thinking "I wonder when Marco Reps will upload his next video" after seeing Linus from LTT wearing a go pro...

  • @samdesplancke3906
    @samdesplancke3906 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    finally a new upload yayyy

  • @Diemalexander
    @Diemalexander 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Willkommen zurück

  • @p_mouse8676
    @p_mouse8676 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Most of the time the temperature measuring device isn't the issue. Making sure that you're actually measuring what you supposed to be measuring without introducing another billion variables, is the hard part. Welcome to thermodynamics.

  • @WurstPeterl
    @WurstPeterl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Every night during quarantine, I blew up an electrolytic on my windowsill, hoping Marco would upload again. Finally my prayers have been heard!

  • @Orbis92
    @Orbis92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish more companies would have this philosophy like Arroyo.
    I mean we all are hobbyist, but most of us have a job in the field, too. Do these companies which never mail back or answer schematic or whatever request with "we dont do such things" to be picked by us ignored hobbyists as supplier for the companies we work for...
    hope you get what I am trying to say, its a bit late here :)

  • @rjc0234
    @rjc0234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Talking a bout foam, I work for a company called Sealed Air who make a foam called "synergy" that you can CNC (its a Polyethylene based foam so the melting temperature is a bit low and it can be a little bit messy, but the sales pitch is you can recycle it), and our best competitor is a company called Zotefoams make a REALLY nice to CNC foam called Plastazote. Both CNC really well. They are both packaging foams and a few of our customers will 3D CNC packaging trays out of them. I'm scratching my head trying to think of a fabricator who may be able to give you a sample in Germany, but it has been years since i spoke to them last.
    I have just been asked to scrap a load of 50mm Synergy material, so may be able to box some up and ship some out to you if you would like a sample?

  • @summarity
    @summarity 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    There should be a "i drop everything I do to watch their videos" button next to the like button.

    • @fabriziodini5806
      @fabriziodini5806 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too, I gave the German boy the privilege of the notification bell, in my case I follow many but wait for only one

    • @siegmundeurades5753
      @siegmundeurades5753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The moment I saw a new video was up I left the call I was on, my friends were worried about my sudden disappearance.

    • @wesleymays1931
      @wesleymays1931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's called the notification bell. Helps you drop everything you do to watch their videos faster.

  • @juliankandlhofer7553
    @juliankandlhofer7553 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holy shit i've never seen a pcb so beautiful. that grid layout looks amazing, even though most people will never see it.

  • @DVSProductions
    @DVSProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    For cutting foam, try cryogenic milling (see video from applied science on the topic of cnc-ing rubber) the gist is, that you cool down your workpiece enough so that it becomes hard. At that point just cnc it like regular plastic but continue cooling it

  • @Gord1973
    @Gord1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve been using Arroyo Tec Sources since 2010. The instrument as well as the support has been top notch from Arroyo. Cheers.

  • @markphilpot4981
    @markphilpot4981 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have some mad skills. That’s a complement that isn’t just given, it’s earned. You may have haters, but it’s just jealousy. Some are not used to being around smart people. They’ll get over it or continue whining. In either case, it’s of no significance. Keep putting these high quality videos out.The ones of us who appreciate high end work appreciate your efforts. Stay safe mates!😊👍🏻😷

  • @user-dl6iy7rd2y
    @user-dl6iy7rd2y 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh boi, I'm always extra happy at the end of the day when I see that you just posted a video

  • @m.schiller
    @m.schiller 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The moment when marco reps uploads a new video.
    Love your videos!
    Weiter so.

  • @xhivo97
    @xhivo97 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the PCB arroyo made, awesome to provide you the info to fix it.

  • @matjesmeister2403
    @matjesmeister2403 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been looking forward to watching this video for 2 days!

  • @juliannesermon8057
    @juliannesermon8057 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Less relevant to my own tinkering each time you post a video... but at the same time, even more interesting!

  • @jeffreysmith9369
    @jeffreysmith9369 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has become my favorite youtube channel !

  • @Maxisokol
    @Maxisokol 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, just wanted to say: I really enjoy your videos, thanks!

  • @thefrankenator
    @thefrankenator 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the kind of content i like, Subscribed!

  • @Iceteavanill
    @Iceteavanill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are an absolute madman. burning through money to get an extra digit of precision. I like it....

  • @6AL-4V
    @6AL-4V 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simply put, you Mr. Reps, are a trip. What you do is amazing. 👍👍👍

  • @MrMilarepa108
    @MrMilarepa108 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just discovered your channel, I watched all videos (except the ones with the head mounted camera) some several times, and this one is my favorite. Weitermachen, bitte.

  • @PhG1961
    @PhG1961 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding video ! Excellent work !

  • @brendonbentley6617
    @brendonbentley6617 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy moly your videos are good! IMHO better videos has never been produced!!! (The originality of how and what you display on the instrument screens is unfathomable!)

  • @KillBoxScalemodelling
    @KillBoxScalemodelling 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahhh.... 18 minutes and 36 seconds of pure tech and dry german humour. Life is good!

  • @IlkkaSavilampi
    @IlkkaSavilampi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good CNC'able thermal insulator - Wood

    • @hullinstruments
      @hullinstruments 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve been hoping to hear something from him about this

  • @FesixGermany
    @FesixGermany 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:53 woah twisted pair mains cable, good for low EMI!
    14:54 try clamping it at the long sides so the unsupported length is as short as possible, also screwing on the lid can help stabilize the part, had those problems multiple times at work when CNC-ing some housings

  • @DrTune
    @DrTune 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marco you're awesome. You make the best nerd videos

  • @ryanmalin
    @ryanmalin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats a nice set screw there! Very nice 👌

  • @jonnafry
    @jonnafry 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The quest for precision ... this is high art.

  • @adrianfgaleano
    @adrianfgaleano 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    New video! yeyyy! Love you vids, your are very knowledgeable and very funny too.

  • @kevinfontanari
    @kevinfontanari 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm starting to think you're building some kind of death laser machine to enslave all humanity with all this equipment, I think I'll enjoy the video while being slightly worried.

  • @tablatronix
    @tablatronix 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow that is gorgeous instrument, also that mercury switch!!

  • @CozzyKnowsBest
    @CozzyKnowsBest 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for squeezing this video out. It's been a while and you've been missed!

  • @7urgan
    @7urgan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    0:40 "pre human apes have develop this controller 5...000 years ago in usa" :D hahahhahahahahhaha brilliant.

  • @TrPrecisionMachining
    @TrPrecisionMachining 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good video..thanks for your time

  • @vintyprod
    @vintyprod 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This dude's sense of humor gives me life

  • @VinisLab
    @VinisLab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching again because that arroyo deserves! 😁

  • @firuzpulatov7750
    @firuzpulatov7750 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    satisfying video. thank you!

  • @emilalmberg1096
    @emilalmberg1096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very impressive, thanks for your trouble!

  • @nikscha
    @nikscha 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Endlich ein neues Video!!

  • @BebenX
    @BebenX 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting so long!!

    • @skm9420
      @skm9420 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We all have

  • @esunayg
    @esunayg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    youre crazy man, thats why i love you

  • @Etna.
    @Etna. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi, Marco!
    I must admit, you have way nicer toys than me. Nice video!
    Regards,
    Etna.

  • @Scrogan
    @Scrogan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work there!

  • @delgueda
    @delgueda 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have absolutely no idea what he was doing, but I enjoyed inmensely watching it.

  • @michaelpiotrowicz6100
    @michaelpiotrowicz6100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Mr Reps

  • @gnramires
    @gnramires 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing! It's interesting to see the different approaches to deal with temperature.
    There is temperature control, thermal isolation, there is material science/device design temperature invariance, there's temperature compensation (and software calibration), and finally there's the union of several methods to get the absolute best results! I believe quartz watches (e.g. casio) use a mix of stable temperature dependence with thermometers. The problem of course is that temperature changes can't be too quick, thermometer precision is limited, and the temperature may not be uniform across the entire device. But you do what's possible under small device constraints! Great video as usual :)

  • @AgentOffice
    @AgentOffice 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow precise

  • @Vladimir-hq1ne
    @Vladimir-hq1ne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thumbs up for overpriced nitrile gloves joke!
    Double thumbs up for Arroyo engineer who helped you!

  • @tjackman
    @tjackman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arroyo is awesome! If I ever need lab gear I'll make sure to choose Arroyo.
    Great video, even though quite a portion of it flew over my head.

  • @appercumstock3017
    @appercumstock3017 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just what the patient needed.

  • @foorje
    @foorje 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the jakiro reference

  • @Max_Marz
    @Max_Marz ปีที่แล้ว

    those test points are so hot all over there silkscreened by themselves in a nice table. amazing. oh my god that set screw 😩

  • @beachcomber2008
    @beachcomber2008 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your English is stylish and humourous, and a pleasure to listen to. Thanks. Oh, and totally nerdy phsics and engineering. What do you know about precision-controlling welding arcs?

  • @hsmptg
    @hsmptg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One more pearl! :D
    Thanks!

  • @sanches2
    @sanches2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Just wow!

  • @scottmerritt9877
    @scottmerritt9877 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arroyo is a great company.

  • @JohnDuthie
    @JohnDuthie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I missed watching you! Hope you don't disappear for too long again.

  • @TheKillerjohny
    @TheKillerjohny 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love jakiro voice lines :)

  • @bfx8185
    @bfx8185 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see you have lot of fun, like that!

  • @martinpanev6651
    @martinpanev6651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has anyone noticed how he is slowly becoming the most precise weatherman

  • @mechanicalmeddling8336
    @mechanicalmeddling8336 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    John Grimsmo makes knife case inserts out of cnc'd foam. Works really well

  • @ericlotze7724
    @ericlotze7724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I legit have perfectionistic ocd and watching your videos is like dumping stoic hydrolox on that lol

  • @uwezimmermann5427
    @uwezimmermann5427 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can only agree with some other commenters - I have been missing your dry humor 🤣

  • @user-nz8rv8ft5q
    @user-nz8rv8ft5q 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know a guy, that owns company that is built around component level service. Typically after buying his production he gives board layout, schematics and firmware.

  • @Mr.Trololo
    @Mr.Trololo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yessssss
    Finally

  • @euclidallglorytotheloglady5500
    @euclidallglorytotheloglady5500 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So last night as I was not sleeping, I was thinking to myself.. I'm going to bark at Marco.. Where's he been the past few months?? I'm hoping you didn't have a nightmare. Great to see ya mousing around!

    • @reps
      @reps  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm used to being barked at

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty interesting!!! 😃

  • @thegribbs
    @thegribbs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    High density EVA foam machines very nicely with aluminum or compression cutters. I use mostly 2 flute compression cutters.

  • @GNARGNARHEAD
    @GNARGNARHEAD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oh, nice paintbrush!

  • @leozendo3500
    @leozendo3500 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terrifyingly overproduced as always. Well done.

  • @Manofcube
    @Manofcube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only part of this video I have experience with is the Noritake VFD. They're very nice, and even supply an Arduino library. But pretty expensive, the 40x2 model I used was over $100 if I remember.
    Looks like they even have touch screen VFDs now too.

  • @HentaiNat
    @HentaiNat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice keyboard

  • @thromboid
    @thromboid 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm, and I thought I was doing well to get my heat pump operating within 2 K of the nominal set point! It frequently short-cycles (probably oversized for the room) and generally seems to run too hot, so I wired the thermistor onto an extension cable and added a parallel resistor to make the room measure hotter.

  • @juweinert
    @juweinert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do enjoy a good pair of well calibrated hands.
    You should wear them more often, they look really good on you.

  • @kryptoniterazor
    @kryptoniterazor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Around here some CNC hobbyists like to use rigid carbohydrate foam for some machining projects. Unfortunately the supplier is very local and you may have to source material from specialty stores. Goes by many trade names but in this part of the world they use an old english word, I think it's called "wůd"

  • @killernat
    @killernat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    HDPU is a pretty stable machinable foam or expanded PVC (sintra) but they are both ridged (sintra less so)

  • @jakobaccount2105
    @jakobaccount2105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk about long term but Eva foam or the foam floor mats machine reasonably well and laser great

  • @Vlad-jg2ku
    @Vlad-jg2ku 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been working on a project that requires some temperature readings. It's crazy how hard it is to get good accuracy. It's definitely a rabbit hole. Before long, you're looking at how much triple point cells cost.

  • @TheMcSebi
    @TheMcSebi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit that's good publicity. You'd never find that in consumer electronics nowadays.

  • @richardperritt
    @richardperritt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I thought pink was the trademark colour of @bigclivedotcom? 😮
    👍😁 Great video (as always)

  • @jamesleehunter
    @jamesleehunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    EVA foam is often CNC'd for roadcase fitouts.

  • @gcr100
    @gcr100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The "PP" game there is wonderful 2:30

  • @tellurium3754
    @tellurium3754 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could try Etafoam, I only cut it using a bandsaw yet but it worked wonderfully so it might be cnc machinable

  • @adityapalsingh7701
    @adityapalsingh7701 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    finally a response !!!