Harley Davidson EVO Ditching INA Cam Bearing Replacing Lifters Adjustable Pushrods
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- Finally time to getting around to putting back together my 1994 Harley Davidson Evo motor by ditching the stock Harley Evo INA inner cam bearing; replacing the Harley Davidson lifters; and resetting the adjustable pushrods on the is old Harley engine.
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I don't know if it would work for removing that particular bearing, but I learned a really cool trick to remove another small bearing in a tight, blind hole... a pilot bearing for a standard shift hot rod crankshaft. You find something really close to the ID of the bearing, like an extension or a wooden dowel. Pack the cavity inside the bearing and the little space behind it with wheel bearing grease and tap the close fitting dowel or rod or whatever fits pretty close, and as you drive it in, it tries to compress the grease, which it can't do, so it just pushes the bearing right out, as slick as anything. The first time I saw my dad do that back in the day, I thought he was pulling some kind of trick on me. Years later, when changing the 4 speed out for a Tremec 5 speed in my old 68 Rally Sport Camaro, I needed a different sized pilot bearing and remembered Pop's old "trick" and whudda-ya-know! It worked for me, too! Purdy kewl tricks those old timers had! The real tool works as well, I see! :) Take care, Tramp
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Hey man. Thanks so much. Means a lot to hear that.
Yes, the right tool makes all the difference. There's a guy on YT that pulled the INA with an internal jaw type puller from HF. It worked BUT the mere thought of that cage breaking and those needle bearings dropping into the bottom end didnt appeal to me much, so I bought the JIMS tool. Pacific Mike recently did a full EVO rebuild series. Good stuff. Enjoy your trip!
Pacific Mike's video is where I got the idea to get that tool.
Hey Tramp, The cam bearing removal/install tool is the way to go. Nothing like having the correct tools to make the job go smooth. A friend and I did a S&S 95" upgrade to his 04 88" Wide Glide years ago . We finished the change up onone full Sat and was riding it by the end of the day. Tools are are important, But so is planning the job to. Have a great day Brother Pistol Pete
Great video. My 94 is identical to yours and I bought it new in 94. At 2K I had the bearing replaced along with a Andrews 27 cam installed. It has 50K now and no problems. I like your videos, so keep up the good work.
What oil do you run...
Here comes the avalanche...( run this not that )..
When we talked cams at the Fallen Angels camp out you were going to put the EV13 in the dresser which I agree with. The EV27 would be nice in the lighter heritage but since you decided to put the stock one back in it's a mut point. However, if you were worried about the gear differences, as long as your old cam gear is in good shape you can have a shop press the original gear off and swap it onto the new cam. Then you know it's not going to make noise. I switched cams several times on my FLHS and always used the same gear. There's a keyway on the cam but no key. You have to mark the cam at the keyway so you can maintain your timing. Maybe this will be helpful when you do the dresser. Another thing is the Torrington style bearing goes in one way because the side with the lettering is flat and thick which will take the pressure of installation. The other side is rounded and thin and could flatten out during assembly and ruin the bearing. Take care Amigo! Love the new garage!
The heritage actually has one bigger than the 27. When I pulled everything apart, I found that it had an EVL 3020 cam.
I'm getting ready to change the stock cam and main bearing
Cool video Cory, it's always nice to see someone working on their bike and giving a step by step detail. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and know how. Ride safe my friend
Actually that was my first time doing that. If I screwed it up, I thought that someone might learn what not to do also. Lol
Well you did a dang good job on it. Keep up the good work and the awesome videos . 👍👍👍👍
That cam gear drive is a thing of beauty. I have 2 TC88 bikes with spring loaded cam chain tensioners. HD really banged their head on that design. Great video.
Gear drive is the solution to that design error. Of coarse it wasnt Harleys fault that error happened, just like with the INA bearings..
Always fun watching skilled hands at work! Final start up must still give you a great deal of satisfaction no matter how many you do. I know I enjoyed seeing and hearing it. Thanks for Sharing!
Sure thing, Craig. Skilled hands... Not hardly, but I try.
Loving the new shop, always good to see you back with shop content, or any.
Got the garage looking good love the Dave Mann ghost rider center fold
Thanks, Virgil!
Speaking of the ghost rider, where can i get a david mann called the angelo bike. Not the real name but thats what i call it
I did mine on my 99 FXSTC at 23,000 miles just for peace of mind. I used Harley adjustable push rods and have 63,000 on it now with no problems. I had it all done in one day until I went to slide the pushrod covers in place and noticed the cork gaskets and shims laying on the floor. Bummers. Finished it up the next morning. Having that set of tools makes it a piece of cake to do.
A friend of mine had that bearing fail and it needed a complete tear down to clean out the bearing pieces. Needed a bore job and all new bearings, Pistons and rods. Total rebuild. He traded it as is for a new bike. I don't think he got much for it in that condition. He never said. I did not ask.
I always been a FXR guy until I bought a bagger now I wouldn’t go anywhere without it
Hey Corey
Man if anyone deserved a steel building it has to be you.
Shop looks great
Thanks, Jersey
The garage is looking great, I'm glad it is all working out for you. I'm not a Harley girl, but enjoy all types of bikes. I'm also not a mechanic, but when you explain things, it makes me feel like I can fix anything. Thanks for all your videos. See you soon
Thank you Desiree
Going to see if my 93 Heritage has been changed. It has adjustable pushrods and new Jim’s Hydrosolid lifters and I’m hoping ever who replaced the lifters maybe changed that INA bearing also. Thanks for the video. I saved it to use when I do mine. Makes it so much easier. Always learn from your videos.
Some people say to put lifters in if they tear it down and has 30,000 miles. My 95 went 57,000 miles on an Andrews 27 cam before a lifter failed. Luckily it was idling in the driveway. Went back with fueling lifters and also took the plastic breather out and used an S&S Reed breather.
One of the first thing I did to my current Evo was swap to a Torrington cam bearing, EV27 cam, lifters and Quickee pushrods.
Thanks for the video, it’s always nice to sit back and watch someone else do these type of things and going yep that’s how I did it or saying to yourself, it doesn’t look like that bad of a project.
and thank you kindly for the shout out and link sir much appreciated kind sir 🙏🏽
Sure thing, bro! How could I not?
I’ve put on almost 100,000. Miles on a plastic bearing. Changed cams twice. No noise
So glad you said the earlier models have the better bearing in them. We just picked up two 1985 evo's with 30,000miles on them and were getting ready to replace them. Thanks Scooter
Sure thing!
I agree on the plastic breather better it than a motor e rebuild. I had a hard time coming to terms with that my view is metal is always better than plastic except sometimes I guess. My Evo has 32K on it I plan to do the bearing and lifters soon.
Good vid Corey. I did a cams change and gear drive on my 05 twin cam Fatboy recently. I also replaced the cam plate and oil pump with all S&S components. The S&S oil pump put the oil pressure at 30lbs at idle even when hot. Harley was still using those crappy bearings in 05 and of coarse I had two of them to change. Exact same procedure though. Hope that you and the missus are doing well and staying safe. God bless you both.
"stay safe" is code for "BE SCARED".-- Scooter Tramp Scotty
I plan this upgrade as soon as I get my replacement FXRS, it's a 1996 all factory, never opened up, no leaks at the base gaskets or anywhere else for that matter, just a pristine 1996 time capsule, and I intend on keeping it that way exept for a mild cam upgrade, new lifters, and new cam bearing plus chest gasket of course.
@@davidetchellsetchells4692 Right on, David!
I'm gonna look at my bearing on my 88. Never had a problem with it but I'm putting on a new Timing cover so it's time. A real good vid. Well explained. Cheers from UK
Congrats on completing a successful job. If I go I hope to see you at Forgotten Angels.
I plan to be there.
I still can't believe that you say you are not a mechanic. Great video. I just had a roller lifter seize and damage the cam in my Ultima motor on my 87 FLHS, so it cost me a lot of money to fix. That's because I am not a mechanic like you.
Bummer man.
Good vid. Gotta love the simplicity of a evo! Evos for ever!
No doubt!
Man... just wanna say thank you for making vids about working on bikes. So many of the youtubers are ...just talking while riding... or making a brand / image ..or something. Thank you! for just working on a bike and teaching people about what you're doing. I hope the others follow your lead.
Thanks for stopping in. Working of my stuff isn't the only thing I do, but it's one of many.
That girl’s bike has grown on you. Nothing rides like a big Harley bagger . Enjoy the ride take the Glide! Safe travels .
When adjusting push rods,use clothes pins to hold up push rod tubes,been using this method for many many years.Try it next time,no need for bunji cord hooks.Stay safe.
Works just as well. Especially when I don't have any clothes pins.
Why did HD do that (cheaper bearing)? They wear out/fail. Then you purchase new bearings, gasket, oil, etc. HD= Hundreds of Dollars $$$. Your shout out to other You Tuber channels is great. Roll on!
Waiting on firing it up to not spoil the dinner the Missus cooked was absolute GENIUS!
Lol
Thanks I was looking to see the difference on how the lifters went in, very informative!
Glad to help!
Good stuff! A long time coming. Well done.
SaddleTramp, Makes sense you putting it back together with the original gears and breather like you said they know each other. #TRAMPNATION
Great video, I just started an EVO list in youtube and threw it in there.
Right on! Did you get the stickers?
Sounds just right! Very nice man👍💯
I like to see this a man turning wrenches & riding his bike this is what I say makes a biker
The evo sounds good
Nothing better than hearing that “ potato potato” sound at the end of a repair/rebuild.
Glad you got it all ready for your next road trip!.....and the shop is looking good!
Thanks Nick! The trip was great too.
Holy crap! I have the same shirt. I got it because I have a stage 4 sportster Party On Forever I can't belive that. His channel is small and now he mostly just flips burgers and does not make vids :( im from BC Canada and was just watching a fellow BCer and you sent her a sticker and she talked about you and your patch. Angel from Red Rider You are all over the place man
Crazy how the social media can get a person around.
it runs!!! cool video, Saddle Tramp! Safe travels, brother.
I really do like these types of videos you do!! reminds me of the old days in the Wooden shop!! Dont get me wrong, I love the new shop!! Congrats!!
Thanks man. I still miss old place believe it or not.
Awesome! I’ve got a ‘95 wide glide that’s going to get the same treatment except maybe an upgraded cam. Thanks for the details and sweet ride👍
hey saddletramp tim (swamprat) thanks for the video doin mine now inner cam bearing what a noise it makes waitin on my new cam bearing and puller installer tool
Glad I could help
Smooth funk. 😎
Perfect for Evo days.
3:40 one of the things I like about wrenching is to make these sort of pullers myself. I use brass and have a small modelmakers lathe
Look at the bearing, sharp/square shoulder toward the flywheel. That is what the collet grabs
Damn the Evo sounds great!
Sure does!
Used that plastic part because it was cheaper, an to get more business to rebuild engine or sell rider new bike once it fails due to lack of maintenance or knowledge of this part,,,, LLOOOVVEE that potato, 🥔,potato,🥔, sound.
And the Bike Wizard strikes again! Sounds great now mate. ✌️
If were a wizard, I'd a newer bike. Lol... Evo's are a bike for dummies.
Workshop is looking great!
Liking the new workshop. Wish I had all that space. Don't see any fire extinguishers though. Hope you've got that covered (and don't mind my saying).
I've got one hanging by the north side window.
Wow I am so Happy to hear that EVO fire-up, that I too waited to have my Supper (not wanting to spoil my Supper), and I want to tell you something, you know "A Hungary Man is Dangerous" 😉🌮🍗🍔
I'll be doing this same job on my "93 FLHS soon.
Ride Safe my Friend... 🏁🗻🏕
Have to do the same thing on my 97 Heritage this winter. any suggestions on who to get the tools from? oh and thank for the info like always good stuff.
Same here.
I bought mine from Jim's about 17 years ago and it's a good quality tool. Expensive to get it up here to Canada with the exchange rate and import duty but well worth it in the long run. It looks identical to the one Tramp is using. ✌🇨🇦
@@danielmorris3687 I totally agree. Jims is the way to go on any tools.
Not sure of the brand. Just something I got off of ebay.
@@SaddleTrampTV Hey brother, as long as it gets the job done, who care who made it. Ive got loads of china wrenches in my box and use every one of them.
BROTHER YOU ARE SO SMART YOU'RE DANGEROUS YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO THINK ABOUT MAKING TO YOUR DESTINATION AND GET BACK HOME..🤗🤗👍🇺🇸
Shop V2.0 is looking good. A lift sure beats working on the floor.
Sure does
Nice work, Evo sounds great, have fun on your trip.
"hehe FIRRRE!" 😁. it sounded good 👍. good vid
I have an 01 glide and am getting attached to it too. Hard to beat comfortably.
As much as HD brags & blows about their quality they sure went cheep on parts & the new M8. Good thing U buy low & used , it makes it easier to up grade to better than new. Hope to see ya soon .
Good job vato. I wished I new how to work on my bike like you bro.your saving lots of money on labor.
I try
You can do it Jeffe. If you pay someone you might be paying them to learn. Do it yourself. Your capable, your a man n understand physics
The reason why you fit the needle bearing to the manufacturers specs (maybe with the writing facing out) is because that end is designed to take the force/pressure of being installed using the tool you have or using a drift and hammer. This reduces the chances of deforming the bearing race.
Once you go bagger you never go back . Rode hardtail shovel till I was 42 bought a 98 Evo dresser just like yours new . And I'm still on it.
writing on cam bearing must face out! the bearing cage (bearing housing) is beveled, the beveled or tapered side of the bearing goes into the case. nice to have the correct tools for this it's important to be done right.
Glad I did it that way then.
I always enjoy your videos it was very informative . Is that motor electronic ignition or is it the old point style and if it is how hard is it to change it over to electronic Ignition? Take it easy , be safe . 😎👍
I’d leave it points if mine. It’s easier to change points if on the road that to have to get a new electronic ignition.
It's electronic ignition. But it's capable to run on points.
I wish I had a shop!
always learning something from Mr Tramp!
Sometimes you learn what not to do also.
Cool video, like your description of tools I'd do the same as long as I know what they're used for keep videos coming
Great video man. Loving the new garage. And the easy instructions.
Great video, thanks for this
Awesome video, bro !! Like all the details you go into really cool !
Always party on!!! Good stuff about Evos, I liked it. Thanks.
Sure thing!
I plan on doing this to my 98 softail this winter I’ve had the bearing since right after I bought the bike, I to going to stay with the plastic breather I thought of going with a different cam , and the reed valve breather. But just don’t have the money I bought the gaskets and I have the bearing and that’s gonna have to work
Just got a old 83 ironhead! Thats my project now
Right on
Yup evos done needed another time gremlin. Love old ironheads tho
SaddleTramp thank you so much for doing this video I'm about to install an Andrews EV23 in my 98 Evo. As well as inner bearing lifters and pushrods. Exact same as your black Electra except mines red. Anyway I was feeling a little overwhelmed on how not to screw it up this video helped me a lot. How noticable was your torque and hp after ur upgrade?
Thanks man love all your stuff.
SaddleTramp fan for life I'd love to ride with you
Sure thing, man. Glad this was helpful. I'll say that it woke the motor up on the bagger. Thanks Timothy.
supposedly, the cage type needle bearings are made for high speed, but i agree with the full compliment bearing....
Hope to see you at the #forgottenangles camp out. Now you have to decide what to ride there!😂😂😂
See you there, man
A lot of great information...as usual...here. Thanks for posting.
That looks like a job i should do on my 99 Night Train, evo sounds good, great video.
Go for it!
Enjoyed this video. Good instructions and uplifting music!!
Got an '87 with the same thing going on..good video
Great job Tramp! I enjoy your vids a lot. Tranks. Regards from Spain.
Sure thing!
Funny to watch how somebody goes from hardtail 883 sporty to Softail too bagger when they get a few years on their bones LOL love my Bagger to ride safe!!
You should not use a mallet to hammer the bearing puller into the old bearing! Just bend the slotted end by hand, that it gets easily through the bearing! This prevents any gunk from falling inside the engine case! When you have inserted the puller, put the sleeve in place and assemble washer and nut. Then you can gently hammer the plug in place, that prevents the puller to slip out of the old bearing! I did that on my 96 Heritage, where the bearing was already broken! I bought a chinese knock off tool on ebay, which was only 50 dollars and an exact copy of the overpriced Jims Bearing tool.
Thanks for the tip!
@@SaddleTrampTV I like your Videos! Didnt want to criticize! I have learned a lot about evo engines from TH-cam Videos. You american guys are the genuine ones! I really get tired from german harley forums. By the way, I found the reason of the whining noise in a short Video from Dan Schwalbe. Even an authorized dealer was unable to spot the broken INA bearing! So i replaced it by myself. So thanks again for sharing! Greetings from germany
Yeah gotta love those cheap knock off tools from china. You know the country that wants all us dead. Way better then good old American steel. They make their crap from chinesium, gaurenteed to break within 3 uses. Also when you buy that crap you don't need to feel any pride. Also you get to brag to your neighbor that you helped put him on unemployment. Yupp, Jims is overpriced alright.
Love the sound of an evo!
You and me both!
Nice job mate, John from Australia 👌🇦🇺
Howdy Tramp, (I'm late to the video-whoops) just picked up my first Evo bike, and it's a laaaaate model.
'98 FXDL, only 4200 original miles.
I'd like to do the exact same thing before any possible failures pop up in the future.
I've seen quite a few videos on replacing the plastic race bearing, seems like planned obsolescence on the MotoCo's end
I'll never understand re-designing what's not broke.
Do you have a link? Thank you
I have the same 94 Nostalgia as you and I intend on changing the cam and bearing in time 👍
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Great job.. Thanks
Good video, thanks I'm learning alot here plus your just easy going and fun, the things you say make chuckle 😁❤️&✌️
You said you were 300 miles south of Tupelo. That sounds like the area I live in. I am in George County Mississippi.
Harrison County here
Always good...
Hey Tramp that's what I do too tight is tight right keep it between the mustard and mayo and rubber side down GBU later
Very cool video! Thanks! Someone please pay his house so we can get more videos lol
Lol
You would think that as Much as a Harley costs They would not sell junk. I have a 1995 Dyna with a screeching cam bearing right now. Less than 10,000 miles on it.
he reminds me of mr. Kimble on green acres