The 6x was like "Is there something on my rear bumper, not sure, but it's going for a ride anyways!" "I think I'll just put whatever that is back there, over there, it looks like a nice spot for it!"
The M923A2's much like the A1's before them were one of the best five ton trucks out of all the cargo trucks/troop carriers. A2's were 1987-1994 and A1's were 1984-1987 while the original M923's rolled out in 1982. One of the main differences was that the A1's just like the M812's-M820's before them had the N/A NHC-250's from Cummins,until the A2's got the 12V 6CT's. Another thing was that their 1400×20's on the A2's had different tread and were updated with CTIS,A1's still had the super singles but never CTIS which would be seen since the front rims never had wheel guards in order to keep the air valves separated,and then the basic versions only had 42 inch dual tires,never 48 inch like the later variations. Even though the 8.3L in the A2's wasn't as power packed as the 14.0L,it was more durable and reliable in the long run.You couldn't run the SC 250 in the older series trucks at 2,100 RPM for a long time because they were notorious for breaking valve seals and piston bearings from that,or even throwing rods too.That was common when TM manuals suggested the engines were fine at 2,300 RPM...Wrong. It was a great thing when the Seabees and USMC went with the MTVR's and USMC also got the LVSR's when the old equipment was being phased out. It was a mistake getting rid of these elsewhere and going with the FMTV's...No longevity or long term reliability.
@@captiancrafter Wrong...A1's and A2's all came with Super Singles,both versions had the 48 inch Michelins,being the 1400×20's,but the A2's were the ones that came with CTIS...Read my paragraph. The first M900 series trucks before the A1's had the 42 inch Firestones,which were G177's at 1100×20's and then there was another type being the G172's. It's quite obvious when you see enough videos of these trucks here on TH-cam or talk to those who own them... The older five ton trucks before the M900 series all used 39 inch tires which were non directional 900×20's and correlated being that the Deuce And A Halfs had the same set ups.
We had one of those in Iraq. Thing would pull a house down. We also had LMTV's and MTV's. They had a caterpillar engine they ran good but hated the fact they were a cab over. I much preferred the five ton over those because I have an engine between me and whatever obstacle in the way.
AWESOME ! SO NOW I AM GOING TO PULL ONE OF THOSE PUNK KIDS ALWAYS REVING HIS LIFTED FORD NEXT TO ME WHEN I DRIVE MY 5 TON I HAD NO IDEA HOW BAD ASS IT WAS, I BABY THE HELL OUT OF MINE!!
Yeah, I know it's an auto. I have one. The transmission let's you limit the gear though. When I pulled with mine I tried low on the transfer case and left it in first. Next time I'll try 1-2, letting it go up to 2nd for some more speed.
That's the whole point and benefit of having an inline sixed engine. Specifically designed for lower RPM and higher outcome of torque. It's not just all about the torque either,it's also about gearing ratio.
@@thermidorlevrai65 I see. I didn't know that. I used to own an M35A2. I called it Triple Deuce. For no real reason. True story, at my county fair, they wouldn't let me hook to the sled. I just wanted to see how far I could pull it, not really compete, but they said no.
@@michaelbrown5838 Smart choice on not letting you to do so.The 7.8L Multi-Fuel was not a powerhouse or could get power,they can handle 2,600 RPM,but that comes with Speed,and EGT needs to be 750-850,I've seen them at 1,300 with either 19,200 lbs in the bed or up a hill,and they easily will start to fuck up Injectors,Gaskets,or Seals.
....and video EXACTLY like this make me want to spend an insane amount of money on something i really dont need parked in my backyard next to my boat and hot tub and ram and mustang that is already there haha
Much more than that five ton truck would ever do...That's from experience. MTVR's having the C12's are 425 HP/1,650 TQ while the 6CT's in the M923A2's were only 240 HP/602 TQ or around there,then the NHC-250's in the A1's and older had 250 HP/658 TQ. Seven ton trucks over the five ton trucks were assembled to be 30% better than trucks before them on reliability,durability,longevity,environments,capacity,capabilities etc you name it.
Seems to me that hitching to a point at or above the rear axles is going to lift the front end resulting in a loss of traction which was seen here. Yes it was a full pull, but if more sled weight is added it could well be a different outcome.
Late reply,but yes. All M900 series trucks are five ton trucks. Including the previous M800 series and M39 series. The first variables of the M900 series including the A1's were from AM General. The only difference was G177/42 (with rear duals) tires versus the 1400×20/48 Super Singles. The A2's came from BMY Division of Harsco and have Cummins 6CT's instead of Cummins NHC-250's which were also used in the M800 series. Lastly,the A2's still used the Super Singles but with built in CTIS (Command Tire Inflation System). The only way to tell between the A1's & A2's was to look at the front tires for the wheel guards within the rims. The wheel guards for the A2's are for protection and seperation of the airing valves for the CTIS system.
guitargoliath, I have done several mods now but at that point had only turned up injection pump slightly on the Low End help spool. I ran it through the gears manually to keep the RPM's where I wanted them
@@ferdy1976 Obviously,but you have the Option of putting it in High/Low for both Transfer Case & Transmission,and you can Shift it just like a Automatic in a car even.All Military Trucks 1982 or after are like that with Allison Automatics.
@@ferdy1976 The Air Actuated Lockers came on very few M923-M944 Trucks,they were rare Variants and all of them were in the USMC only.The Air Lockers were made by Rockwell for Kovatch & Oshkosh 8×8 Firetrucks only,used in Air Ports or on Air Bases.The Oshkosh Firetrucks,only 250 of them were ever made,they used a 8V-92 Detroit,only 248 of them were used in the Air Force,the other 2 were for Fire Departments. A Company in Kileen Texas Rebuilt them back in 2007 and ended up Bankrupt,Resources are near impossible to get except for the 92 Series Detroit.And the Transmission,Axles,and Gear Ratio only gave it a 40-45 MPH Limit.The Drivetrains on them also were easy to damage at high Speed.
For this debate.Some people often call the 5 Ton Trucks a "Double Deuce".But politically,the 5 Ton Trucks are not a Deuce.The Deuce is a 2 1/2 Ton Truck,2 1/2 Tons of Cargo off-road and 5 Tons of Cargo on highways.The 5 Ton Trucks are rated for twice the Capacity.5 Tons of Cargo offroad and 10 Tons of Cargo on highways.
Turn the screw up on the pump, upgrade the governor spring and injectors. 8.3 6cta is capable of 400 hp/ 1200 tq. Throw in some marine pistons, injectors and a bigger turbo with the fuel screw turned up and a stiffer spring and 450 hp is possible.
“We’re get’n ready to merge onto the highway now...”
I was waiting for him to turn and around and drag it back to the starting line lmao
The 6x was like "Is there something on my rear bumper, not sure, but it's going for a ride anyways!" "I think I'll just put whatever that is back there, over there, it looks like a nice spot for it!"
Yep! We did a lot of crazy things with those in the 90s.
Story time. You cant just leave with that.
I remember back in the military days, we use to take them for a "test drive" out in the woods in the winter and do donuts. Fun times.
The M923A2's much like the A1's before them were one of the best five ton trucks out of all the cargo trucks/troop carriers.
A2's were 1987-1994 and A1's were 1984-1987 while the original M923's rolled out in 1982.
One of the main differences was that the A1's just like the M812's-M820's before them had the
N/A NHC-250's from Cummins,until the A2's got the 12V 6CT's.
Another thing was that their 1400×20's on the A2's had different tread and were updated with CTIS,A1's still had the super singles but never CTIS which would be seen since the front rims never had wheel guards in order to keep the air valves separated,and then the basic versions only had 42 inch dual tires,never 48 inch like the later variations.
Even though the 8.3L in the A2's wasn't as power packed as the 14.0L,it was more durable and reliable in the long run.You couldn't run the SC 250 in the older series trucks at 2,100 RPM for a long time because they were notorious for breaking valve seals and piston bearings from that,or even throwing rods too.That was common when TM manuals suggested the engines were fine at 2,300 RPM...Wrong.
It was a great thing when the Seabees and USMC went with the MTVR's and USMC also got the LVSR's when the old equipment was being phased out.
It was a mistake getting rid of these elsewhere and going with the FMTV's...No longevity or long term reliability.
Whew..., more than the normal feller can stand!
I owned an M35A3. It had a Catipillar diesel engine, and an Allison automatic transmission.
Those are definitely not the original tire.
@@captiancrafter Wrong...A1's and A2's all came with Super Singles,both versions had the 48 inch Michelins,being the 1400×20's,but the A2's were the ones that came with CTIS...Read my paragraph.
The first M900 series trucks before the A1's had the 42 inch Firestones,which were G177's at 1100×20's and then there was another type being the G172's.
It's quite obvious when you see enough videos of these trucks here on TH-cam or talk to those who own them...
The older five ton trucks before the M900 series all used 39 inch tires which were non directional 900×20's and correlated being that the Deuce And A Halfs had the same set ups.
We had one of those in Iraq. Thing would pull a house down. We also had LMTV's and MTV's. They had a caterpillar engine they ran good but hated the fact they were a cab over. I much preferred the five ton over those because I have an engine between me and whatever obstacle in the way.
2:43, you're welcome
Good work! That’s a Man’s truck. I have an older model 5 ton. It’ll pull anything. American made!!!
What’s a mans truck?
Yessir....Army strong💪, definitely a man's truck!!!
@@flight2k5 a truck you wont ever own bc you live your life on judgement.
@@flight2k5 definitely not a ford
@@jimmychanbers2424 ok cool?
Jeez, take it on a date first before taking it home
Love mine. 3 color camo green, with winch (M925a2), and rooftop gun turret ring. Unstoppable.
thats whut i am talikin about!!! I love my 925a-2
I miss my old 923a2, she was always slow, but she didn't care how much she hauled
Not a single problem
AWESOME ! SO NOW I AM GOING TO PULL ONE OF THOSE PUNK KIDS ALWAYS REVING HIS LIFTED FORD NEXT TO ME WHEN I DRIVE MY 5 TON I HAD NO IDEA HOW BAD ASS IT WAS, I BABY THE HELL OUT OF MINE!!
Your 5 ton would rip there lifted Ford in half
You have w 5 ton and thought it wouldnt tear the frame out of any ford/chevy/dodge on the road? I question life daily.
"Let's see what happens" is my philosophy on life.
It's ok if I just tow this home? ok thanks...bye
Best full pull I've seen in a while except the Dodge General Lee.
Cummins power!
Made me feel happy, praise God for American
Fun fact, that's also the top speed of duece and a half!
Are you sure about that? I've done alot faster when I still had my own deuce and a halfs and have done the same in my five ton trucks!
Just a walk in the park 😎
Where do you want it?
Finally someone aired down first.
It's all about the torque and geared down horse power 💪🇺🇲
Wonderful sharing 😮
Was the transfer case in low or high and what gear was used?
***** probably low
+Alexsha James That truck came with an automatic transmission.
Yeah, I know it's an auto. I have one. The transmission let's you limit the gear though. When I pulled with mine I tried low on the transfer case and left it in first. Next time I'll try 1-2, letting it go up to 2nd for some more speed.
+Alexsha James wondering the same
Alexsha James ,I ran lo range and manually cycle through the gears as I saw fit.
This car numberone.
It's truly insane how much torque those trucks produce with that little horsepower
That's the whole point and benefit of having an inline sixed engine. Specifically designed for lower RPM and higher outcome of torque. It's not just all about the torque either,it's also about gearing ratio.
Put a snow plow on one and send it too New England for me. Thanks.
That's not a Deuce, mega or otherwise. It's a 5 ton.
nobody said its a deuce
The guy announcing did.
@@michaelbrown5838 the nickname of the truck is mega deuce
@@thermidorlevrai65 I see. I didn't know that. I used to own an M35A2. I called it Triple Deuce. For no real reason. True story, at my county fair, they wouldn't let me hook to the sled. I just wanted to see how far I could pull it, not really compete, but they said no.
@@michaelbrown5838 Smart choice on not letting you to do so.The 7.8L Multi-Fuel was not a powerhouse or could get power,they can handle 2,600 RPM,but that comes with Speed,and EGT needs to be 750-850,I've seen them at 1,300 with either 19,200 lbs in the bed or up a hill,and they easily will start to fuck up Injectors,Gaskets,or Seals.
Nice run! Any mods, and how did you handle shifting?
SitsinShadow its an auto
SitsinShadow , I ran it in low range and shifted manually through the gears as I saw fit.
@@bullgulch
I've never seen one of these boogie like that. Is this truck turned up?
@@bullgulch I just got one and am wanting to do the same thing. Did you ever get past 2nd gear?
@@BentraxVideos ran out of track
Flawless Victory by the deuce
Joey Hoffman it’s actually a 5 ton , not a deuce.
*GET OVER HERE*
"Double Deuce".
OMG!!!!!!! AWESOME!!!!
That is TORQUE and TRACTION 💪
HELL YEAH !!
5 ton of fun.......
Ank MK38 it is U ???
Weird that they let him collect his winnings before he attempted the real pull. Why’d the other vehicles struggle so hard to move this thing?
Did we expect anything less¿ Go Army!!
....and video EXACTLY like this make me want to spend an insane amount of money on something i really dont need parked in my backyard next to my boat and hot tub and ram and mustang that is already there haha
Were you in low range and using 1-2?
David Jones, I manually selected the gears I wanted.
Thanks! Great pull!
Low into First then back into Low? If so that's AMAZING shifting.
Wonder what the 7 ton would do. 🤔
Much more than that five ton truck would ever do...That's from experience.
MTVR's having the C12's are 425 HP/1,650 TQ while the 6CT's in the M923A2's were only 240 HP/602 TQ or around there,then the NHC-250's in the A1's and older had 250 HP/658 TQ.
Seven ton trucks over the five ton trucks were assembled to be 30% better than trucks before them on reliability,durability,longevity,environments,capacity,capabilities etc you name it.
Just a stroll in the park for what he was built for.
Might as well put his signal on and hopped on the freeway
What was the ending weight
Cordell Darkling , I want to say 38K but not sure.
Seems to me that hitching to a point at or above the rear axles is going to lift the front end resulting in a loss of traction which was seen here. Yes it was a full pull, but if more sled weight is added it could well be a different outcome.
it reduced traction on the steering axle, but increased traction on the drive axles
@@jimsmith9819 Keep in mind that the front axle is driven as well and if the rears started to spin the front can then help pull.
ha ha ha...that was awesome!
Isnt that a 5 ton?
Late reply,but yes. All M900 series trucks are five ton trucks. Including the previous M800 series and M39 series. The first variables of the M900 series including the A1's were from AM General. The only difference was G177/42 (with rear duals) tires versus the 1400×20/48 Super Singles. The A2's came from BMY Division of Harsco and have Cummins 6CT's instead of Cummins NHC-250's which were also used in the M800 series. Lastly,the A2's still used the Super Singles but with built in CTIS (Command Tire Inflation System). The only way to tell between the A1's & A2's was to look at the front tires for the wheel guards within the rims. The wheel guards for the A2's are for protection and seperation of the airing valves for the CTIS system.
Did you have any mods done to this truck? And what gear did you pull in? Awesome vid
+guitargoliath That truck came with an automatic transmission.
guitargoliath, I have done several mods now but at that point had only turned up injection pump slightly on the Low End help spool. I ran it through the gears manually to keep the RPM's where I wanted them
@@ferdy1976 Obviously,but you have the Option of putting it in High/Low for both Transfer Case & Transmission,and you can Shift it just like a Automatic in a car even.All Military Trucks 1982 or after are like that with Allison Automatics.
@@Slim_Slid Don't forget the air actuated locker on the front differential! I grew up driving the M813 and M931 back in the day :) Good trucks!
@@ferdy1976 The Air Actuated Lockers came on very few M923-M944 Trucks,they were rare Variants and all of them were in the USMC only.The Air Lockers were made by Rockwell for Kovatch & Oshkosh 8×8 Firetrucks only,used in Air Ports or on Air Bases.The Oshkosh Firetrucks,only 250 of them were ever made,they used a 8V-92 Detroit,only 248 of them were used in the Air Force,the other 2 were for Fire Departments.
A Company in Kileen Texas Rebuilt them back in 2007 and ended up Bankrupt,Resources are near impossible to get except for the 92 Series Detroit.And the Transmission,Axles,and Gear Ratio only gave it a 40-45 MPH Limit.The Drivetrains on them also were easy to damage at high Speed.
If I was the announcer, I would have been asking the question where’s he taking that load.
2020 bought me here
Would love a 5 ton
mega deuce?
yes sir
Well it's not a mega "deuce". It's a 5 ton.
that's its nickname flight2k5
Ian Morris ooohh the nickname you gave it?
Kinda silly.
For this debate.Some people often call the 5 Ton Trucks a "Double Deuce".But politically,the 5 Ton Trucks are not a Deuce.The Deuce is a 2 1/2 Ton Truck,2 1/2 Tons of Cargo off-road and 5 Tons of Cargo on highways.The 5 Ton Trucks are rated for twice the Capacity.5 Tons of Cargo offroad and 10 Tons of Cargo on highways.
Le matériel américain est très fort
MERICA!!!
To race go to 2:40s
Lmfao. Excellent
ROFL ! Light workout for a Deuce !
Not a Deuce,the Deuce & A Half is the 2 1/2 Ton Truck,this is a 5 Ton Truck,or others joke about "Double Deuce".
Awesome
It probably would have pulled easier, if he did get on the highway.🤣
train horn
Not sure what trains use as horns. But that is a 5 ton 6x6’s air horn.
Leading cause of death where I'm from is you just out for a RIP are ya bud?
Video could have been 2:30 shorter
988u7
That's a 5 ton.
Want.
Knew before he started how far he would go... run out of track.. make a great firewood truck but not enough room by over filling to slow it
2:40
set the ctis on sand mode! 330 HP 8.3 would drag that
SFC Bladen Anthony Rexroth , My truck dose not have ctis. also they do not come factory with 330 horsepower.
Cassidy Stanley Announcer misrepresented your truck. anything after 90 came with ctis
2 years later and watching this.
Turn the screw up on the pump, upgrade the governor spring and injectors. 8.3 6cta is capable of 400 hp/ 1200 tq. Throw in some marine pistons, injectors and a bigger turbo with the fuel screw turned up and a stiffer spring and 450 hp is possible.
@@bladenrexroth2555 1987 was when the A2's were introduced with the CTIS,not 1990.
It’s not a deuce but ok
its better
Go on hiway😂😂
yea i think he won XD
I made it through half of the video they still didn't start see you later
You should invest in a device that has a fast-forward button. You’s a dummy!
@@BlockchainToTheFace 🤣😆🤣😆
Slow
PUT A 10 SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION
It already has 10 speeds...5 in low range and 5 in high range
I know a guy who removed the MT654CR Allison Transmission on his M923 and put a 10 Speed Eaton in it.
@@bdougwrx Yeah,but technically it's only Five Speed Forward and Two Speed Reverse.