Hi guys, I hope you enjoyed the guide! If I missed something or you have suggestions on way to improve this guide please add comments to this Presentation: docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ebd_QQosSkPXjBDOwTzJG6mgyRE5UZDAJbZIRP8OQGo/edit?usp=sharing There are also a bunch of useful Hunter related links in the description below!
Did you ever share why the class guides were taken down? Were you too critical on certain things or did blizzard just overreach (ala Nintendo) in protecting their IP?
Also most mmorpg doesn't use that type of system anymore, guild wars 2 your weapons decide your skills, ffxiv the class you have grinded gives you the abilities and profession (kind of like an advanced class, a gladiator turns into a warrior or a paladin) let you use some other basic class skils, elders online is kind like a multiplayer version fo skyrim. The problem is that the rpg gendre is everyday less rpg and more action based, the few rpgs that are more traditional lately are kind of anime style.
because a) the trees were getting too big b) it confused casuals c) alot of them felt boring (+1% damage etc) and d) perks do the job just as fine, but without the problems i mentioned
They removed talent points because it became unsustainable as the level cap went higher and higher. The level requirements for talents kept getting higher and higher. It was approaching the point where you would be able to max out multiple trees, if we had talents today you would be able to take them all. Then there are the poor unlucky hunters who fell behind in leveling. I put so much work into corpse dragging my way through multiple alliance cities to get the core hound from the dranai starting zone. I was level 59 when litch king dropped, poof gone. Exotics in the stable got saved, but pets you had active when the expac dropped just disappeared into the void.
@@Christopher_Gibbons wtf? that's not true at all. you only got enough points to max one tree (by that i mean reach the final talent), and then some spare points. in cata you couldn't even do hybrid specs, and they cut the number of talent points you get.
I'll never get why some "blizzard approved" youtubers can get away with showing private server footage but the other smaller channels can not. Great video as well again Kargoz.
Some great binds I use... for my mouse scroll wheel forward is pet attack and and scroll wheel backwards is pet return, it feels really freakin good, like a nice tether to your pet controlling it well, it just makes sense in my brain.
I thought of exactly this while watching the video too. I like the pet actions on the scroll wheel, and very narrow but powerful abilities on the 2 side mouse buttons. Stuff like pvp trinket or scattershot.
I actually love to keep up with food and ammo its a meta game :) It can be anoying but its what hunters are all about. feed your pet keep it happy and get better ammo
you gotta get fishing and cooking, skinning and just go off kill some beasts skinnem, cook the meat fish some fish cookem feed yourself feed your pet. Best class of all time.
While Hunters are generally polarized one way or the other (no middle ground), while Leveling your #1 priority should be keeping your Pet alive. That means many points in BM to build out a proper Tank pet (even if it's a Cat). This will save you far more time than the small damage increase from the points you lost into improving your Pet's Health/Armor/etc.
Always set your dots and keep your pet moving. MM used to be great go viper, steady, arcane in that order. BM with a bear as the tank, always set your dots and work heals
Appreciate all your time and effort - I've been weighing up Warlock or Hunter (Which were my first 2 mains in Vanilla) but I've forgotten the experience since my old age :) This guide has helped me!
Great guide - note there is no reason to start with an auto shot though. If you start with an instant like Serpent Sting, your first auto shot fires with it and it does not delay the next one.
the guide is quite good, but some things are not for CLASSIC WOW, but for VANILLA WOW and that is a big difference. For example macros are not working in classic wow, because the "/script" is not allowed. This either needs an update, or a popup in video to point out what is not working in actual "classic wow"
Man, I literally watched the Warlock and Druid guide the night before they got taken down. I wanted to check them out again the next day, but literally couldn't find either of them. I seriously questioned if I had dreamed watching a class guide haha
I know this is more geared toward faster, more efficient leveling, but I go out of my way to buy all skills because I actually use them. Track beasts and track humanoids helped me look for quest mobs and rare spawns (such as the gnoll east of Northshire who drops an 8 slot bag). Same goes for Eagle Eye - I used it to track the spawn of a harvester golem in Westfall who drops a 10 slot bag. Eye of the Beast I have not used yet, but the point I am making is that I find practical uses all the time :)
This is really good stuff Kargoz. I thought the production value was great. It was also super to the point with no fluff. You clearly know your stuff and have used the resources you're citing here.
I am considering rolling Dwarf Hunter as I did in the beginning. This guide is great. I needed guidance on the talent tree. I will return to this guide and appreciate you so much.
The lost art of the stutter step. They really made hunters easy to play later on. no min range, all range, no melee, no mana. It's a good refresher of just how much they changed the hunter class over the years.
Thanks Kargoz! I'm level 45 right now been following your talent build and guide so far, and been having a bunch of fun and making friends in game. Should hit 60 in a week or two.
Hunter has always been my favorite class. My first ever character was a dwarf hunter, and my first real pet was an Ice Claw Bear I kept for 30 levels. This is an amazing guide, Kargoz,, I'll be sure to save this and look back into it when Classic launches. All of these guides are great!
Shame that the old guides were taken down, but your new format is great. I ended up liking this version of the guide more than the last even. Keep it up.
It's bull-puckie that your other videos were taken down. I have never been a fan of speed leveling, but I am a fan of efficiency. One way I do this is with mouse over macros, especially on my healers. I am not sure yet how to do this in Classic, but my current macros combine 2 spells in one action bar slot. If help I heal/decurse/shield, if harm I cast a damage ability. And to take it a step further, I try to keep like cool down spells on the same macro, so I get use to how long it's down whether damaging or healing. Anyhow, more great content. Keep it up, and hope to see ya in the demo. I already took the day off work on Nov. 2 & 4. Oh yeah... I'm a big nerd! :D
Loved it! I would definitely train “Scare Beast” as it’s a huge ability in allowing you to solo tough elites in STV, Thousand Needles, Winterspring etc
We meet again old friend! Going to watch all class videos for classic fresh server until it comes out! I have been using these old guides since the beginning lol I happen to see one of your new videos today and I forgot that you aged as well lol First time seeing you outside of the look in your older videos which is what I watch.
Easily the most useful hunter guide I've seen. One thing I recently saw though was spacing survival 1-25 and having more a "weaving" playstyle to make use of your +30% crit on raptor strike. Haven't tried it. Sounds interesting though.
Guide is fine for hitting max character level with some really nice tips about auto shot usage. I was just hoping to see more about traps, kiting techniques, and proper use of melee. I helped my friend level a hunter where all we did were orange/red quests together, it was like extreme hunter boot camp for him. Hunters become insanely funner the more you know.
Leveled a hunter to 60 in vanilla, and recently on Kronos 3. Two macros I found pretty sweet is feign death into frost trap, and one that swaps between aspect of the cheetah and hawk with one button push.
Well,the stat prio here is agility,intellect,spirit,stamina, so I'd follow that gearing up. Just keep in mind 1 agility = 2 ranged AP. Aw,and somewhat obvious thing: Go for weapons with stats,not the procs.Choose agility, then AP.
Wow dude you really went through the process of explaining things clearly and effectively, best guy I've seen so far made me tryout a hunter, nice work!
Bruh, I am a calm ass person, but if I had a channel and TH-cam took down a bunch of my videos I would be mad as fuck. I commend you for just using that as an opportunity to improve your content. If more content creators were like you then TH-cam would be a better platform!
For those who are planning to play hunter but never played vanilla or never played hunter in vanilla, then there's one thing to learn. Never pull with serpent sting or the tank will kick your ass :D Man i learned that in MC when after a few Baron Geddon pulls the MT yelled at me to not pull with that :D Also prepare to level up engineering cause you'll get the best ammo from it, and bombs, jumper cables, repair bots... But it's a fun class, you'll feel special along with the priest and warrior with your class weapons (bow and staff).
I liked target dummies and traps for soloing and multi mobs in dungeons. Send trap first. Oh, yea agree on serpent stings. I kept one bar for soloing and 1 bar for dungeons. Made many mistakes in dungeons. Look forward to meeting new WOW friends. Do not get lost in Auberdine and guildies have to send Shaman to find you for a dungeon run. lol
HYPE! Glad to see you still making these. Also, Id love to see a Rogue one. I am never quite sure what my rotation should be when leveing lets say, 1-10, 11-20, 21-30 and so on. Do I use snd or just combo till Evis. Everytime I get to around lvl 16 quests in Barrens I hit a huge road block with being able to kill things for quests. Mainly the Harpies.
Awesome guide man. I'm a wrath baby and I have mained a hunter since then I plan on staying Hunter on classic as the class just means more to me than a class. Great guide and info and it's nice to see someone as passionate as me about the Hunter. Hope to see more Hunter info or gameplay in the future!
Coming back to this with the HC resurgence. Glad to see it still here. Might opt for a few more survival talents in case I get in a sticky situation. Just recently got down to 13 HP at level 22. That was stressful!
Lupos and Brokentooth isn't really an issue. Lupos' ability to deal shadow dmg and thereby ignore armor was removed relatively early in a classic patch rendering him useless. If they run on a 1.12.1 platform, he'll be useless even at launch. Brokentooth is really only for pvp, but even then it's not the best choice. There are other easy to get by pets with fast attackspeed under 1,5 so you don't have to get him. All viable pve pets are easy to get, mostly in dungeons and raids (ZG Raptor, LBRS wolf).
Great guide. I always get track humanoids because you kill so many for quests, it can track PvP targets if you're getting chased etc., AND it's still relatively cheap. I don't normally grab any other track skills past that however.
Awesome Video man. Having played WoW since Vanilla and primarily playing a Hunter I agree with 98% of what you said. However, personally, I find having to stock up on Ammo (And deciding 'what' ammo I want) and the keeping up with Pets (Again, choosing what Pet I want) to be a major part of the appeal for me. These were things we took for granted and when they were later removed the class felt entirely different. Personally, having the option to choose these things adds customization for me and makes the class and character feel more like 'my' character as opposed to a cookie-cutter build. All in all good video though mate, just figured I would throw my two cents in there.
Given that my time to play this game is much much smaller then it was back in the old days hunter will have to be my main. I’m going to need to be able to cruise through leveling in order to enjoy classic at all. First character ever was a dwarf hunter so by the gods it’s going to be a dwarf hunter again
These are actually very informative and great guides! It seems to cover basically everything relevant and in a clear way. Definitely the go-to place for leveling guides. Thanks!
not sure hw far you are in but im also very new. there is another DPS cat called Rake to the east of Thunder bluff that is nearly as good as broken tooth that is worth getting. a cat with 1.2 attack speed. its actually a lion model which is cool.
when going BM i still start out with 5/5 improved concussive shot..... being able to chance stun/root a mob at level 15-20 or interupt a cast before getting intimidation at lvl 30 is massive for survivability
Thanks for the info!! I started playing WOW wayyy back right after BC came out...I did manage to level a BE hunter to level 70. No idea what build of talents I used back then...will be fun rediscovering it.
Iam so happy about Classic. I cant wait anymore... my hunter is waiting. Road to 60 in 5 days played. After make Gold and boe gear for my fresh warrior leveling as tank 4 all doungeons with played to 60 in 30 days.
+1. Question: Do you find hunters to be only good for pvp or decent for pve as well or just TranQ shot/Trueshot aura supporter? Such a joy to listen to your videos man. Calm, informative and the time/effort it takes you to make them for the community. As a 40yo man who also mained hunter ever since the open beta time but IRL (family, work etc) make me wounder what to do with my hunter that I will be maining for Classic. I did not raid that much as I focused alot more on the pvp aspect. Love the old AV and the class itsemf for pvp. Some say hunters just get worse as time goes and not really "that" good anymore once AQ/Naxx comes out. In one of the videos from our other great guy Tipsout when he interviewed Cadet who he considers to be one of the best hunters in the world how the class is in both pve and pvp, it is always interesting to hear others pov. Now, we are talking about (mmo)RPG after all so play what you want, is most fun to you that you will enjoy the longest is the main thing. So many in all online games today asking that same silly question "what is best X and Y" when they should focus on what I just said. Common sence. The more fun you have = more played = become better = better geared/rotations = less reroll chance etc
Hunters are strong early on, but their damage being fairly equipment agnostic means they have poor scaling. In Late AQ and Naxx you could go survival to bump your personal contribution up, but this might result in lowering overall raid dps if there isn't another hunter to cover Trueshot for everyone who needs it). You also MUST min-max the hell out of your Pet to ensure it does as much damage as possible and isn't dying all the time from avoidable stuff. And if you're using a Wolf to buff a melee group, make sure he's close enough that they get the bonus on every cooldown and that your raid leader has you in the right group.
@@ZanathKariashi As always, I appreciate replies so thanks. You are only talking about PvE and yes I do agree with you when it comes to AQ40/Naxx from checking many content creator vidz. I only raided up to ZG if I recall correctly and know how important it was to send your pet to the "melee grp" while you are considered as caster and nuked another mob/pack and try keep your pet alive as long a spossible. I see many threads and posts about PvE and/or high end game content. Back in the day my focus was PvP. But vanilla was much much more then just end game pve/pvp. For PvP they were a beast, so quite the other way around. Good geared hunters could 1 shot cloth ppl with aimed shot crits of 3k and such. So not only the classic "pom-pyro mage" thing. Loved my Nelf hunter for pvp. Standing melded and had a free opener/start on someone with aimed+multi before they even realized what's going on. I did play other classes as well, even on Horde side (other server ofc) and enjoyed some there too but in general my main was that hunter on (yeah I know filthy right?) ally side.
Hi, really into your guides! Sorry to hear they got taken down. I dont know if you got up to Priest leveling yet but its by far my most favourite class in vanilla. I've leveled 3 priests now to lvl 60 and im pretty sure i will be a priest in classic. Waiting for your take on it very excitedly :)
Mouse scroll forward- Pet attackMouse scroll backward- Pet followFeline pets such as tigers are very easy to feed, buying fish from vendors is cheap or use fishing/cooking.
I love the hunter played him when i was 4 untill i was 11 (quited on him in mop cuz i got my own account) So this guide will help me in classic :) thnx
Great guide. Never played Vanilla back in the day but have on private servers so I am looking forward to my first "retail" vanilla experience! Night Elf all the way!
As good as that passive seems bonus to ranged weapons is less effective than melee, endgame will usually be a bow. But engineering still will be nice with scopes and trinkets, I've read goblin engineering can result in becoming a stunning lock hunter.
You can progress just fine with a gun (yes, BWL cross bow and epic hunter quest bow are better). I had my bow and tier 2 set, but read below... My main was a dwarf hunter. I used my Core Marksman Rifle until I got Larvae of the Great Worm from AQ40 (ugly weapon, but the best gun at that time). You can look pretty pimp without going hardcore w/ beastmaster set and core marksman rifle. You'll need to farm the beaststalker set in order to upgrade it to beastmaster (tier 0.5).
Excellent guide! There were two things missing for new players: talking about attack speed on your weapon (iirc slower is better than high attack speed) and to not be a dick about loot rolls. As a hunter you don't care about armor very much, you just take all the leather/ even cloth gear with Maximum Agility/Intellect on them. However, leveling is all about having fun, so don't make other people hate you in dungeons or regular partys by rolling away all their good stuff! So please don't roll on that Robes of Arugal (cloth, 10 spirit, 9 int, 5 stam, 3 agi) when there are cloth classes in your party that need it. Be the good guy, not the dick!
I really enjoy your videos! Nice work. Especially the part with bow and ammo progression. You're doing just great! Every type of video (classes, zones and etc). And btw it'so nice you mentioned Raziya. If anyone interested he is an extremely skilled hunter and has a very good channel with tips&tricks for hunters. Absolutely recommend everyone to visit it.
Why do you think it was so asked for if people could just play on a private server? And I do believe that most of the original Vanilla player-base has dropped off.
I strongly disagree with Endurance Training/Thick Hide over Imp AotH. Your survivability, and your pet's survivability, are plenty good enough for grinding without Endurance Training, and Imp AotH is free DPS. There's zero reason not to take it. If you're having trouble staying alive as a Hunter, then you're just not playing well. My leveling build is 5/5 Hawk, 3/5 Endurance, 0/3 Thick Hide. Depending on what you plan to grind, Thick Hide over Endurance could be a viable option since it also increases the efficiency of Mend Pet. You also definitely want 1 point in Imp Mend Pet. There's a ton of long-duration debuffs in vanilla that really blow. Being able to cleanse those yourself is extremely useful.
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Hi guys, I hope you enjoyed the guide! If I missed something or you have suggestions on way to improve this guide please add comments to this Presentation:
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There are also a bunch of useful Hunter related links in the description below!
Is there a private server your playing on you can invite me to?
Hey awesome guide ! Do you plan to do a mage leveling guide aswell with the best aoe grinding spots ? Would love it !! Thanks in advance
Did you ever share why the class guides were taken down? Were you too critical on certain things or did blizzard just overreach (ala Nintendo) in protecting their IP?
bigsoups hey bro I got copyright striked RIP ;(
Love your videos man :)
Talent points are the best thing ever, I will never understand why they removed this..
Because they're lazy fucks that want your money with minimum effort. Aka, typical millenials.
Also most mmorpg doesn't use that type of system anymore, guild wars 2 your weapons decide your skills, ffxiv the class you have grinded gives you the abilities and profession (kind of like an advanced class, a gladiator turns into a warrior or a paladin) let you use some other basic class skils, elders online is kind like a multiplayer version fo skyrim. The problem is that the rpg gendre is everyday less rpg and more action based, the few rpgs that are more traditional lately are kind of anime style.
because a) the trees were getting too big b) it confused casuals c) alot of them felt boring (+1% damage etc) and d) perks do the job just as fine, but without the problems i mentioned
They removed talent points because it became unsustainable as the level cap went higher and higher. The level requirements for talents kept getting higher and higher. It was approaching the point where you would be able to max out multiple trees, if we had talents today you would be able to take them all.
Then there are the poor unlucky hunters who fell behind in leveling. I put so much work into corpse dragging my way through multiple alliance cities to get the core hound from the dranai starting zone. I was level 59 when litch king dropped, poof gone. Exotics in the stable got saved, but pets you had active when the expac dropped just disappeared into the void.
@@Christopher_Gibbons wtf? that's not true at all. you only got enough points to max one tree (by that i mean reach the final talent), and then some spare points. in cata you couldn't even do hybrid specs, and they cut the number of talent points you get.
I'll never get why some "blizzard approved" youtubers can get away with showing private server footage but the other smaller channels can not. Great video as well again Kargoz.
I just started playing wow classic with some friends for the first time ever and this was very helpful. Thank you!
Some great binds I use... for my mouse scroll wheel forward is pet attack and and scroll wheel backwards is pet return, it feels really freakin good, like a nice tether to your pet controlling it well, it just makes sense in my brain.
A lot of mice have two buttons on the side, one in front of the other. Binding pet attack and pet return to these works well too.
@@aussiesparks Those are my favourite binds for all pets (also warlock) as well.
I thought of exactly this while watching the video too. I like the pet actions on the scroll wheel, and very narrow but powerful abilities on the 2 side mouse buttons. Stuff like pvp trinket or scattershot.
Red I use those two buttons to strafe haha Maybe I could move that
@@aussiesparks Those mouse buttons should be used for strafing, need all your movement on your mouse to free up keyboard for abilities
I actually love to keep up with food and ammo
its a meta game :) It can be anoying but its what hunters are all about. feed your pet keep it happy and get better ammo
haha i feel you bro i do miss having them on retail xD
also the sound of the bow shooting in vanilla is like my favorite thing in life
keeping food and ammo in your mailbox helps so much since there is limited amount of places selling ammo
you gotta get fishing and cooking, skinning and just go off kill some beasts skinnem, cook the meat fish some fish cookem feed yourself feed your pet. Best class of all time.
Take cooking and it is great lol.
Hunter is the best class for sure. I've mained hunter in every expansion. Classic was definitely my favorite time to hunt, so to speak.
bawstin so you like 0 challenge
@@solarmaru49 actually i have to agree. hunter too much fun. played rogue mage priest before in classic, all to 60. hunter most fun so far
If you are on a pvp server, then I highly recommend that you buy track humanoids. Knowing where you enemy is in a contested zone is amazing.
Why would you ever not buy that?
@@GeejMusic Lack of coins ? Hehe..
While Hunters are generally polarized one way or the other (no middle ground), while Leveling your #1 priority should be keeping your Pet alive. That means many points in BM to build out a proper Tank pet (even if it's a Cat). This will save you far more time than the small damage increase from the points you lost into improving your Pet's Health/Armor/etc.
Always set your dots and keep your pet moving. MM used to be great go viper, steady, arcane in that order.
BM with a bear as the tank, always set your dots and work heals
Appreciate all your time and effort - I've been weighing up Warlock or Hunter (Which were my first 2 mains in Vanilla) but I've forgotten the experience since my old age :)
This guide has helped me!
Very unfortunate about the quality videos being taken down.. Don't worry though, once classic releases you will blow up like crazy.
Exactly my thought. These vids hold so much more info than all the others. Info i didnt even know I wanted.
This comment aged well. CLASSIC SOON!
Hey friend nice icon lol
Great guide - note there is no reason to start with an auto shot though. If you start with an instant like Serpent Sting, your first auto shot fires with it and it does not delay the next one.
the guide is quite good, but some things are not for CLASSIC WOW, but for VANILLA WOW and that is a big difference. For example macros are not working in classic wow, because the "/script" is not allowed. This either needs an update, or a popup in video to point out what is not working in actual "classic wow"
bro how do you send out pet with a macro in classic?
@@lachlaneft /cast hunter,s mark
/petattack
Macros do work. Just not how it's written here
I wouldn't expect You there.. ;) $"For the {player.GetFaction()} !"
Man, I literally watched the Warlock and Druid guide the night before they got taken down. I wanted to check them out again the next day, but literally couldn't find either of them. I seriously questioned if I had dreamed watching a class guide haha
I know this is more geared toward faster, more efficient leveling, but I go out of my way to buy all skills because I actually use them. Track beasts and track humanoids helped me look for quest mobs and rare spawns (such as the gnoll east of Northshire who drops an 8 slot bag). Same goes for Eagle Eye - I used it to track the spawn of a harvester golem in Westfall who drops a 10 slot bag. Eye of the Beast I have not used yet, but the point I am making is that I find practical uses all the time :)
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This is really good stuff Kargoz. I thought the production value was great. It was also super to the point with no fluff. You clearly know your stuff and have used the resources you're citing here.
Congratulations, cuz of you I’ve decided to roll hunter in classic
thanks brother :) any questions don't hesitate to reach out in discord
By the way, could you make a race guide? Basically explaining what race fits to what class/playstyle?
I am considering rolling Dwarf Hunter as I did in the beginning. This guide is great. I needed guidance on the talent tree. I will return to this guide and appreciate you so much.
The lost art of the stutter step. They really made hunters easy to play later on. no min range, all range, no melee, no mana. It's a good refresher of just how much they changed the hunter class over the years.
Way to stay positive brother. Great vid and grats on 20k subs
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Bro its insane how much effort you put into these, thanks a lot
Thanks Kargoz! I'm level 45 right now been following your talent build and guide so far, and been having a bunch of fun and making friends in game. Should hit 60 in a week or two.
Season of mastery coming out in 2 days! This is gonna help me a lot, thanks Kargoz!
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@@justmeok2 99 parsing hunter all the way through to Naxx! Plan on rolling warrior next SoM though lol
Be a night elf Hunter and get a cat type pet.
You can Shadowmeld and your pet can go into Prowl , wait for and ambush the unsuspecting horde.
Nah Dun Morogh is where it's at dwarf all day err day!
and then you still get wrecked, because Horde > Alliance
@@GamecockRock90 That comment is so childish. You clearly have no idea how important the element of surprise is in vanilla pvp.
I am feeling a bit ashamed for using this tactic :D i just killed a mage that was +9lvls :D
ghost saber cat is badass
Hunter has always been my favorite class. My first ever character was a dwarf hunter, and my first real pet was an Ice Claw Bear I kept for 30 levels. This is an amazing guide, Kargoz,, I'll be sure to save this and look back into it when Classic launches. All of these guides are great!
Shame that the old guides were taken down, but your new format is great. I ended up liking this version of the guide more than the last even. Keep it up.
Why was the old guides taken down ?
It's bull-puckie that your other videos were taken down. I have never been a fan of speed leveling, but I am a fan of efficiency. One way I do this is with mouse over macros, especially on my healers. I am not sure yet how to do this in Classic, but my current macros combine 2 spells in one action bar slot. If help I heal/decurse/shield, if harm I cast a damage ability. And to take it a step further, I try to keep like cool down spells on the same macro, so I get use to how long it's down whether damaging or healing. Anyhow, more great content. Keep it up, and hope to see ya in the demo. I already took the day off work on Nov. 2 & 4. Oh yeah... I'm a big nerd! :D
Loved it! I would definitely train “Scare Beast” as it’s a huge ability in allowing you to solo tough elites in STV, Thousand Needles, Winterspring etc
Yeah saved my butt from certain doom a bunch of times :p
I love how you quoted the need for imp revive pet, “ you make think your a badass…” we all did, and regretted not taking IMP rp. Lol well done
Ahhh yeah the guides are back! I need me a Shaman and Paladin guide. Can’t decide!
Shock N Boom Arent they both niche in vanilla? Not saying they wont be a lot of fun, also I dont know which patch will be in classic wow.
Really sorry to hear about your content getting taken down! Please don't be discouraged; keep up the great work as it is greatly apprecaited :)
We meet again old friend! Going to watch all class videos for classic fresh server until it comes out! I have been using these old guides since the beginning lol I happen to see one of your new videos today and I forgot that you aged as well lol First time seeing you outside of the look in your older videos which is what I watch.
Welcome back!
Easily the most useful hunter guide I've seen. One thing I recently saw though was spacing survival 1-25 and having more a "weaving" playstyle to make use of your +30% crit on raptor strike. Haven't tried it. Sounds interesting though.
Only recently decided on maining Hunter in Classic, thanks for this. Very helpful
Guide is fine for hitting max character level with some really nice tips about auto shot usage.
I was just hoping to see more about traps, kiting techniques, and proper use of melee.
I helped my friend level a hunter where all we did were orange/red quests together, it was like extreme hunter boot camp for him. Hunters become insanely funner the more you know.
Sorry your other videos got taken down, but thank you for taking the time and opportunity to remake them. :^)
Leveled a hunter to 60 in vanilla, and recently on Kronos 3. Two macros I found pretty sweet is feign death into frost trap, and one that swaps between aspect of the cheetah and hawk with one button push.
Glad to see you upload your guides again man! Keep it up bruh
Here's hoping these videos don't get taken down this time
And another great and informative video. Sorry for the vids you had to take down :(
Regards to gear, it should end with "of the falcon" for agi and int stats. Maybe you could add this in your presentation? :)
Well,the stat prio here is agility,intellect,spirit,stamina, so I'd follow that gearing up. Just keep in mind 1 agility = 2 ranged AP.
Aw,and somewhat obvious thing: Go for weapons with stats,not the procs.Choose agility, then AP.
Companion Codex is now returning an error, btw.
Just clicked on it, and it sent me to a malware infested site. Should have read the comments.
Thank you for reproducing these awesome and helpful videos. Really gives us classic players a home.
The dedication! We love you bro!
Great video man 👍🏻 from a veteran hunter player myself, your spot on ❤️ i hope to see your Channel boom within the next year 😉
i know
no one cares but when this was uploaded it was only 4 days left untill my birthday
happy birthday
Wow dude you really went through the process of explaining things clearly and effectively, best guy I've seen so far made me tryout a hunter, nice work!
Bruh, I am a calm ass person, but if I had a channel and TH-cam took down a bunch of my videos I would be mad as fuck.
I commend you for just using that as an opportunity to improve your content. If more content creators were like you then TH-cam would be a better platform!
Awesome guide brother, best classic wow channel out there by far, can't wait for classic to come out and live the great adventure with you guys
For those who are planning to play hunter but never played vanilla or never played hunter in vanilla, then there's one thing to learn. Never pull with serpent sting or the tank will kick your ass :D
Man i learned that in MC when after a few Baron Geddon pulls the MT yelled at me to not pull with that :D
Also prepare to level up engineering cause you'll get the best ammo from it, and bombs, jumper cables, repair bots...
But it's a fun class, you'll feel special along with the priest and warrior with your class weapons (bow and staff).
I liked target dummies and traps for soloing and multi mobs in dungeons. Send trap first. Oh, yea agree on serpent stings. I kept one bar for soloing and 1 bar for dungeons. Made many mistakes in dungeons. Look forward to meeting new WOW friends. Do not get lost in Auberdine and guildies have to send Shaman to find you for a dungeon run. lol
Just the music engulfs me and brings me back to simpler days.
HYPE! Glad to see you still making these. Also, Id love to see a Rogue one. I am never quite sure what my rotation should be when leveing lets say, 1-10, 11-20, 21-30 and so on. Do I use snd or just combo till Evis. Everytime I get to around lvl 16 quests in Barrens I hit a huge road block with being able to kill things for quests. Mainly the Harpies.
You put so much work into these guides and it shows. Thank you for making these. They're excellent.
I'm also considering hunter this time, because I always played only warr or pala.
Wait wtf.. they took down your class guides..? There is no way that isn't fair use... Man so sorry to hear that... happy to see this though!
Awesome guide man. I'm a wrath baby and I have mained a hunter since then I plan on staying Hunter on classic as the class just means more to me than a class. Great guide and info and it's nice to see someone as passionate as me about the Hunter. Hope to see more Hunter info or gameplay in the future!
Very informative, it can be also helpful, to spent 1 point into improved mend pet, some debuffs stay for a long time ( -% attackspeed etc ) 5 stars ;D
hunter pvp when Ik your little ass is on ND :)
Kargoz how the hell are you posting videos so fast!? They're all top notch quality, there's no way.
I definitely think your guide here holds up pretty much just as well in Burning Crusade & Wrath of the Litch King
Coming back to this with the HC resurgence. Glad to see it still here. Might opt for a few more survival talents in case I get in a sticky situation. Just recently got down to 13 HP at level 22. That was stressful!
im so exited man...
Lupos and Brokentooth isn't really an issue. Lupos' ability to deal shadow dmg and thereby ignore armor was removed relatively early in a classic patch rendering him useless. If they run on a 1.12.1 platform, he'll be useless even at launch.
Brokentooth is really only for pvp, but even then it's not the best choice. There are other easy to get by pets with fast attackspeed under 1,5 so you don't have to get him.
All viable pve pets are easy to get, mostly in dungeons and raids (ZG Raptor, LBRS wolf).
Watching this because I plan on playing a Dwarf Hunter once the Classic servers go live
Yes! I loved playing Dwarf Hunter back in the day :D
Same here!
Thanks for this. Will be very useful on leveling my hunter again. I didn't remeber some things from vanilla and this cleared my mind. Keep it up!!!
Great guide. I always get track humanoids because you kill so many for quests, it can track PvP targets if you're getting chased etc., AND it's still relatively cheap. I don't normally grab any other track skills past that however.
Not even watched the video yet, but like and appreciative comment is a must! Keep doing this great content dude!
Great vid, as always.
Dam they took down your old guides. The warrior one was really good and useful for my warrior on Northdale. Pepehands
Love seeing the talent trees lol im a lvl 8 and it’s been so nostalgic already haha
Awesome Video man. Having played WoW since Vanilla and primarily playing a Hunter I agree with 98% of what you said. However, personally, I find having to stock up on Ammo (And deciding 'what' ammo I want) and the keeping up with Pets (Again, choosing what Pet I want) to be a major part of the appeal for me. These were things we took for granted and when they were later removed the class felt entirely different. Personally, having the option to choose these things adds customization for me and makes the class and character feel more like 'my' character as opposed to a cookie-cutter build. All in all good video though mate, just figured I would throw my two cents in there.
Given that my time to play this game is much much smaller then it was back in the old days hunter will have to be my main. I’m going to need to be able to cruise through leveling in order to enjoy classic at all.
First character ever was a dwarf hunter so by the gods it’s going to be a dwarf hunter again
These are actually very informative and great guides! It seems to cover basically everything relevant and in a clear way. Definitely the go-to place for leveling guides. Thanks!
I just started wow classic and Im having a blast! Its my first time in wow and this guide is really helpfull best in youtube
not sure hw far you are in but im also very new. there is another DPS cat called Rake to the east of Thunder bluff that is nearly as good as broken tooth that is worth getting. a cat with 1.2 attack speed. its actually a lion model which is cool.
when going BM i still start out with 5/5 improved concussive shot..... being able to chance stun/root a mob at level 15-20 or interupt a cast before getting intimidation at lvl 30 is massive for survivability
Excellent video. Can't wait to see if those macros will work in demo
Learning by the master himself before the competition!
Thanks for the info!! I started playing WOW wayyy back right after BC came out...I did manage to level a BE hunter to level 70. No idea what build of talents I used back then...will be fun rediscovering it.
Wait..... why did they take them down??? 😤😤😤😤
yeah wtf happend?? Kargoz please fight this
copyright
Using private server footage :(
pRiVaTe SeRvEr CoNtEnT
I actually really loved the idea of having ammo. You could buy premium ammo for extra damage
Keep pumping out this amazing content, my friend. I bet you'll see a big uptick in traction as we get closer to Classic release.
Iam so happy about Classic. I cant wait anymore... my hunter is waiting. Road to 60 in 5 days played. After make Gold and boe gear for my fresh warrior leveling as tank 4 all doungeons with played to 60 in 30 days.
dude, your effort is freakin awesome keep up the good work, much love!!
+1. Question: Do you find hunters to be only good for pvp or decent for pve as well or just TranQ shot/Trueshot aura supporter?
Such a joy to listen to your videos man. Calm, informative and the time/effort it takes you to make them for the community. As a 40yo man who also mained hunter ever since the open beta time but IRL (family, work etc) make me wounder what to do with my hunter that I will be maining for Classic. I did not raid that much as I focused alot more on the pvp aspect. Love the old AV and the class itsemf for pvp. Some say hunters just get worse as time goes and not really "that" good anymore once AQ/Naxx comes out.
In one of the videos from our other great guy Tipsout when he interviewed Cadet who he considers to be one of the best hunters in the world how the class is in both pve and pvp, it is always interesting to hear others pov.
Now, we are talking about (mmo)RPG after all so play what you want, is most fun to you that you will enjoy the longest is the main thing. So many in all online games today asking that same silly question "what is best X and Y" when they should focus on what I just said. Common sence. The more fun you have = more played = become better = better geared/rotations = less reroll chance etc
Hunters are strong early on, but their damage being fairly equipment agnostic means they have poor scaling. In Late AQ and Naxx you could go survival to bump your personal contribution up, but this might result in lowering overall raid dps if there isn't another hunter to cover Trueshot for everyone who needs it).
You also MUST min-max the hell out of your Pet to ensure it does as much damage as possible and isn't dying all the time from avoidable stuff. And if you're using a Wolf to buff a melee group, make sure he's close enough that they get the bonus on every cooldown and that your raid leader has you in the right group.
@@ZanathKariashi As always, I appreciate replies so thanks. You are only talking about PvE and yes I do agree with you when it comes to AQ40/Naxx from checking many content creator vidz. I only raided up to ZG if I recall correctly and know how important it was to send your pet to the "melee grp" while you are considered as caster and nuked another mob/pack and try keep your pet alive as long a spossible. I see many threads and posts about PvE and/or high end game content. Back in the day my focus was PvP. But vanilla was much much more then just end game pve/pvp.
For PvP they were a beast, so quite the other way around. Good geared hunters could 1 shot cloth ppl with aimed shot crits of 3k and such. So not only the classic "pom-pyro mage" thing. Loved my Nelf hunter for pvp. Standing melded and had a free opener/start on someone with aimed+multi before they even realized what's going on. I did play other classes as well, even on Horde side (other server ofc) and enjoyed some there too but in general my main was that hunter on (yeah I know filthy right?) ally side.
Hi, really into your guides! Sorry to hear they got taken down. I dont know if you got up to Priest leveling yet but its by far my most favourite class in vanilla. I've leveled 3 priests now to lvl 60 and im pretty sure i will be a priest in classic. Waiting for your take on it very excitedly :)
This video deserves 400k views
Saving people years -
/cast Hunter's Mark
/petattack
hunter macro - your welcome !
This is so critical and so simple. Love it. thanks!
Mouse scroll forward- Pet attackMouse scroll backward- Pet followFeline pets such as tigers are very easy to feed, buying fish from vendors is cheap or use fishing/cooking.
I love the hunter played him when i was 4 untill i was 11 (quited on him in mop cuz i got my own account) So this guide will help me in classic :) thnx
gz on 20k very well deserved man
Great guide. Never played Vanilla back in the day but have on private servers so I am looking forward to my first "retail" vanilla experience! Night Elf all the way!
Get a rogue guide up! Great content sir.
I'm considering dwarf with engineering to make my own guns :)
Me too
Me three my first ever toon was this
Same idea love dwarfs and guns 😁
As good as that passive seems bonus to ranged weapons is less effective than melee, endgame will usually be a bow. But engineering still will be nice with scopes and trinkets, I've read goblin engineering can result in becoming a stunning lock hunter.
You can progress just fine with a gun (yes, BWL cross bow and epic hunter quest bow are better). I had my bow and tier 2 set, but read below...
My main was a dwarf hunter. I used my Core Marksman Rifle until I got Larvae of the Great Worm from AQ40 (ugly weapon, but the best gun at that time).
You can look pretty pimp without going hardcore w/ beastmaster set and core marksman rifle. You'll need to farm the beaststalker set in order to upgrade it to beastmaster (tier 0.5).
Excellent guide!
There were two things missing for new players: talking about attack speed on your weapon (iirc slower is better than high attack speed) and to not be a dick about loot rolls. As a hunter you don't care about armor very much, you just take all the leather/ even cloth gear with Maximum Agility/Intellect on them. However, leveling is all about having fun, so don't make other people hate you in dungeons or regular partys by rolling away all their good stuff! So please don't roll on that Robes of Arugal (cloth, 10 spirit, 9 int, 5 stam, 3 agi) when there are cloth classes in your party that need it. Be the good guy, not the dick!
Thanks for the awesome content Kargoz! Any chance on getting a leveling guide for Shaman as well? =D
I really enjoy your videos!
Nice work. Especially the part with bow and ammo progression. You're doing just great! Every type of video (classes, zones and etc).
And btw it'so nice you mentioned Raziya. If anyone interested he is an extremely skilled hunter and has a very good channel with tips&tricks for hunters. Absolutely recommend everyone to visit it.
Oh shit, so hyped for the Classic Wow :D the background music gives me Nostalgia :D
>Makes an in-depth, cohesive guide for playing a class in Vanilla
>doesn't realize that much of the audience has NEVER PLAYED VANILLA before
How do you come to that conclusion?
Why do you think it was so asked for if people could just play on a private server?
And I do believe that most of the original Vanilla player-base has dropped off.
I'm still here bruh
Most of us has played vanilla...
I strongly disagree with Endurance Training/Thick Hide over Imp AotH. Your survivability, and your pet's survivability, are plenty good enough for grinding without Endurance Training, and Imp AotH is free DPS. There's zero reason not to take it. If you're having trouble staying alive as a Hunter, then you're just not playing well. My leveling build is 5/5 Hawk, 3/5 Endurance, 0/3 Thick Hide. Depending on what you plan to grind, Thick Hide over Endurance could be a viable option since it also increases the efficiency of Mend Pet.
You also definitely want 1 point in Imp Mend Pet. There's a ton of long-duration debuffs in vanilla that really blow. Being able to cleanse those yourself is extremely useful.
it's designed for private servers that aren't accurate at all lol
You really couldn't put those macro's @22:16 into the video's description?
@Bobby Woods Did you find one that works by chance
Keep it up, great stuff! Hopefuly comes in handy when the classic starts.
PS - love the background rain and music - such great nostalgic audio