Couple things about your hamstring kiting. you have to factor in all ranged mobs as nullifying the advantage, and add in significant frequency of tight spots where kiting even within a 10 yard radius isnt feasable due to mob density, walls, or water. Though very difficult to give a high confidence estimate on, these are going to push the advantage down quite a lot. A rough guess imo is down to 20% damage mitigation by kiting overall. Also, I know that at least sub level 20 searing totem is more efficient dpm than lightning shield. You get at least 3 fireballs for 10 dmg each and potential to crit for 15 for 25 mana before a mob dies. Searing totem pulls away even more if earthbind kiting.
Thanks for this guide, i used to play wow from 2005 to 2010 as warlock, warrior and rogue. I always looked shaman with envy , especially the elem in PvP. Lately i tried to play one on an instant 60 PvP pserver, i had a lot of fun really, so i plan to roll one for classic.thank you again for your great job, from France.
this is what I am struggling with myself. I am thinking main lock and alt shaman. That way I save on having to respec to farm gold on my shaman, instead I can just farm on my lock for both toons
How are people praising the good work 25min after a 45min vid had been posted. Can we please get real? Annnyyyways, I was frothing at the mouth for more classic leveling videos, I'm so hyped
i don't think the kiting is as imperative as he says. having said that, the trick REQUIRES a swing timer (or perfect timing in your head). You want to do a circle around your earthbind. while strafing, you want to swing once, then strafe away to be out of range of the mob. when you see your swing timer coming up for the next swing, you dip in for another hit. If you do it right, you should NEVER see the "out of range" red text, and the mob should hit you right when you hit it, and not any other time. Its kind of a pain in the ass for grinding to be honest, and you will probably get sick of it and start face tanking.
Smashed the fuck out of that like button. I decided out of the blue to ditch my other two chars and start a Shaman, since I wanted to aim long term (I prefer healing end-game content), and I fell in love with the Shaman; this is the most toolboxy, flexible class I've ever played and I love it. I feel like you have to constantly think about how to maximize your efficiency and you have solutions to a ton of different problems. I heard you mention the earthbind kiting in your stream and I've been using rockbiter/2h, and you can feel the efficiency improve drastically - it even gives you time to restore your mana better if you time your lightning shields properly. I did roll Resto Shaman based on Melderon's guide, but I'm probably going to respec into the 2h Enhancement build to kite Solo content better. Keep doing what you do man, your content is epic!~ I hope you make some non-class related guides in the future.
I love that you give us the presentation. I can't thank you enough for all the work you put into your guides. They've really helped me become a better player. So pumped to be one of the good players this go around instead of one of the bads :)
Kargoz your content is so good ("five outta five") that i'm hoping u'll release sooner or later an how to: level 60 guide for healing classes for example, in which u show which ranks are the best for healing, how to counteract some dynamic, the regen mana/sec value and some tips here and there. Looking forward for it and keep on the marvelous work!
I'm really digging your series. Some of this stuff is pretty daunting, honestly. I started playing in TBC and never did any of the tricks you've mentioned in your guides, such as the sit macro, front stab/shred, etc. All the APM seems super complex. I'm guessing that unless you're going for the fastest leveling speed possible, such tactics aren't really necessary for success.
Don't worry that won't work on Classic. That is for private servers only. If it would work on Blizz servers they would patch it straight away since it's way too OP.
Front stab and shred did work in vanilla. The new engines work smoother and won't have the delay like in the old days and private servers. So most likely those spells won't work in classic
Oh my Gaaawd, Enhancement Shaman in Vanilla was so much fun! I loved how I could tank stuff every so often, and using a giant hammer while casting shocks just felt so right.
When I was leveling a shaman for the first time I never knew what the talent tree looked like, I had to grind as hard as I could to level 10 to be able to see where the class could go, seeing that two- handed axe and mace ability was such a bad ass feeling knowing you were teaching yourself to carry something bigger and cooler if you could make it
It looks like this hasn't been mentioned, but Classic uses the same Macro API as Retail; /startattack and all of those other useful commands found in Retail macros will work in Classic (I did only test /startattack, however)
YOU FORGOT to mention the most important thing regarding leveling... World PvP! On a PvP server you really want to be Elemental from L40 onwards!! Almost no other class can withstand that burst!! Maybe paladins but who cares about them anyway - you can always run away from a pally!
Nuclearcx you're right. All these enhance nubs.. ele shaman is way better and has a much higher skill cap. You're doing your team a huge disservice by not going ele/ns
Love the guide. Now, im going ignore the rockbiter over WFW part tho. Huge overkills and mobs hp disappearing from 100-0 is some of the best fun while leveling a sham :)
I've tested one more leveling tactic on Enhancement spec: use dagger and shield with WF until crit procs and flurry start working, then with macro change weapon to slow 2H with RB and atack while flurry is working. You can cast stromstrike too. When flurry is over change weapon to dagger and shield again. Repeat
Again, for sure the best guides out there. Thank you so much for making these, so much fun watching and picturing all the advenures to come. Cheers brother
yo Kargoz thx shammy guide, played shaman as my first class back in vanilla( and beta)! Its epic following you and see how your stream and video-guides improve every time! keep singing in the shower it works ;)!
Wow i learned a lot, ive been using dagger + shield with rockbitter, because i thought that windfury adds 20% 3x crit chance + normal crit which equals (1 + ( 0.4 * wf attacks) (1 + crit chance) which should be around 1.6x normal dmg with chance to overkill mob, vs rockbitter which almost double normal attack power with strength totem and I thought that would be more consistent ~2x normal dmg. After getting lvl 40 and storm strike i decided to lookup a guide because i thought two hander must be faster with stormstrike, so i ended up here :) Really nice tutorial.
I couldn't decide what class to play so I listed all the classes and the major pros, cons and differences between them, told my gf to pick one for me. She glanced at it for 2 seconds and said "sheimen".
If you're using a 2H-weapon, why would you put any points into Shield Specialization? Even if you think the mana increase from the other talent is very small, it still seems more economically rational to put points there. With Shield Specialization they seem to be totally wasted (unless I'm missing something).
For tanking you should always use stoneskin, healing stream totems, they are op. Pull groups with lightning bolt on one target, while it travels, cast chain lightning on another target. Cheers!
One thing I feel many shaman guides hate on is spirit for leveling. In my opinion it is a very strong stat, and it's worth picking up such items in situations where it's normally avoided. Your shocks in particular while leveling will always do more damage than stormstrike, even when stacking strength and agil gear. Also it cuts down on your mob killing time as you are allowed to use more of your spells, which are the real meat and potatoes of your damage. Stamina is only useful for world pvp, you will rarely be in a situation where stacking stam will change the outcome in a pve encounter.
Them talent trees bring back so many memories. I did pretty damn good damage as elemental in MC/ZG. Did a lot of resto through BWL/AQ20. There's something satisfying af about that resto tree. Mana/healing tide pimpin. xD
Some thoughts on 2h progression: Illusionary Rod => SM Library, you might upset some caster group mates, but it is a significant upgrade if you were unlucky with corpsemaker, I couldn't get one with 4 kraul runs, and if you build a group were you heal, no one should have an issue with it either, plus there's no guarantee you'll get your hands on Ravager or MM in armory/cath The Pacifier Drops from a rare in alterac mountains. Might not be soloable before ~ lvl35 even though it has lvl32 req, can be found on the ah though. 4.00 speed is insane as well as the stats The nicker drops in lbrs, not in dm I struggled with my shaman at late 20s/early 30s due to poor luck as far as weapon drops were concerned (corpsemaker :( ) , so yeah, maybe buy a decent green if cm doesn't work out for you.
I have no clue how nobody knew about Earthbind kiting for all of these years. I never played Classic but when I got to Lightbringer private server about a year ago I figured this out around lvl 16... lol. Just side strafed in a circle around my Earthbind while Flame Shock and Fire Totem went to work. Figured it was just common sense. Great guide though! Keep up the good work.
From someone who leveled up a shaman in vanilla, and did everything the hard way...I recommend the earthbind totem kite. To the next generation, Heed this guide, it is good advice for leveling. IMPORTANT NOTICE: In the dagger progression guide, it suggests "distracting dagger" However in Vanilla/Classic WoW, This dagger is *Off-hand only.*
Your videos on the topic is awesome. I'm getting closer to my decision.. What I would like to see is.. perhaps too much work.. But here it goes; A video where you lay out the questing for 1-60 for each class, but focus more on the rewards and gear part. Where do I go for weapons, what quest chains do I start, what dungeons do I do and at what level should I consider it? What about armor pieces? Make it class specific.. What dungeons are relevant for a shamans gear? What zones can I skip? A bonus; what is the best mobs to farm for gold/mounts as each class? What about farming for the rare legendary world drops?
Dang, didn't you guys hear about lvl-boost? I just boosted my Worgen Death knight to 110 in like an instant. Last few lvls tho, gonna be a rough road ahead...
Yo, now that classic is out we know sitting and getting crit doesn't proc things like vanilla servers, so pretty sure the eye of the storm trick won't work on live. Great vid though
Love the earth bind kiting strat, I'll be honest though I think the reason why people don't use it so much is because it can be tedious to do it over long periods of time, when just staying out of the 5 sec rule and then healing when appropriate gets the job done the vast majority of the time. Still this strat is great for elites or dealing with lots of mobs at once.
I never played Enh on Vanilla. i'd like to roll one when clasic hits. I can see it can smash in PvP with a 2H. But was it also good in PvE ? Were 2 x 1H not a thing in vanilla ? Thanks
@@evoknz no dual wielding in vanilla. But you just needed the biggest slowest 2h you could get your hands on with windfury and stacking crit. Using stormstrike you could triple crit on windfury and then toss an earthshock and melt faces. The unstoppable force is a good weapon for that. In PvE, it can also work but you need a good tank because your damage is so spikey you can easily pull hate. A lot of times I'd accidentally pull hate and would just spam lesser healing wave on myself until the tank could pull hate back. It was fun. 😁
@@donskiver If I make an Enh mostly for Pvp will I be able to compete with most of the others dps? And most importantly will I be recruited in a raid group as Enh easily?
@@evoknz evoknz in all honesty, most raids want resto shaman for mana tide totem. When I raided, I was lucky to be in a guild that had more than enough geared healers that I didn't need to respec resto every week. I did however, need to have healing gear with lots of int so that I was at least competent when spamming lesser healing wave. I wasn't that worried about tier loot for my shaman since t1 and t2 stuff was geared towards resto and I was more into PvP with my shaman. (My main was a warlock that I got burnt out raiding with). As for PvP, my damage was hot and cold. Since I depended on windfury procs and those procs critting, I could sometimes top the chart or other times be near the bottom. It was all about how lucky I was. I imagine if I had better gear with enough crit stacked, my dps would have been more consistent but as it was it was very bursty. But that suited me just fine since it was like gambling for me and it was a big rush when I had a hot streak seeing all those big numbers fly lol.
Nice guide Kargoz, only youtuber that I know of who actually gets opinion from multiple good players to compile a useful guide. Most people just google the default stuff and pretend they know shit.
I see this video was made in 2018. We now know that earthbind kiting doesn't work in retail because of melee leeway and how NPC attack animations are handled. It would be nice if the video could be updated to reflect that.
Shammy guide, halfway through, damn let me find that Unbreakable video on TH-cam. Checking the video being hit hard with nostalgia. I'll roll an Orc Shammy in Classic. I've played Alliance during Vanilla. (Dwarf Paladin) So Horde during classic only seems fitting. And Unbreakable has been the Shaman during Vanilla days. So let me see if I'll enjoy it. I do remember fighting Shammy's in PvP in the vanilla days. And they have always been a massive pain in the ass.
"slightly more damage": 15% damage increase on a skill is one of the larger talent damage buffs. 5% per point is nothing to scoff at. This is vanilla we're talking about. This is going to stack multiplicatively with Stormstrike as well.
Thanks for the guide Kargoz. I appreciate all the time you spent on this. It's really great to have all of this information in one place. I especially enjoyed the information on earthbind kiting. I've been trying that out more and really like it, it just makes a lot of sense to basically mitigate almost 50% of damage against mobs if done correctly. Cheers brother :)
LB-(pull)-FS-LB-(spam)-(ontopofyou)-(switchtomelee)-ES Don't drop totems, forget the shield, mana and health can be easily managed and love and use your Ghost Wolf whenever your moving.
So in your druid video you broke down the traveling time required before it's better to mount up. How about a breakdown of exactly how far that distance would be on the Barrens map? For us lazy people.
...Or you could just get a stopwatch, set it to 17 seconds, and start running in ghost wolf in the barrens. Start at the crossroads and see if you make it to Ratchet (my guess is you will).
I guess the only hard thing about it is the timing, the earthbind doesn't constantly slow during its duration, it procs every 3 seconds I believe (it's been a while since I played) So you've gotta make sure the mob is in range of the turret while kiting
Thank you so much for this extremly well made video, I am coming back to WoW to finally be able to play the shaman i Played back in 2006, and thanks to you it seems I will do it much better. Thanks man! Instant Sub.
For me now, leveling a tauren shaman in private server, Stoneclaw totem is a BEAST. Pop it down if you pull more than you can chew, and it is no problem. The unsung hero of shaman, Stoneclaw totem.
My only complaint is a personal one. I highly, highly, HIGHLY prefer to dip into Resto early to get Nature's Guidance. I make sure to get Imp Ghost Wolf by 20, then filter in as many talent points to get Nature's Guidance since +hit% is incomparable in value to anything in early Vanilla (i.e. leveling up, just hitting 60 and gearing up, etc.) I cannot count how many times I've died to both players and mobs because too many spells/hits didn't land and that even 1 would have changed the tide of the battle. Besides, having early healing spells makes it a bit easier to heal dungeons Finally, this entire guide is rather good, but it's under the assumption you're going to speed level and endlessly grind and never do anything else. A good guide for a PvE server/low pop realm with little focus on PvP. I usually encourage people who are leveling on a PvP server that has a decent population to consider choosing more PvP oriented talents (Elemental Warding, Eye of the Storm, Guardian Totems, Healing Focus, etc.) so you stand a better chance against the inevitable. Me personally, I PvP a lot, so they're always talents I highly consider to help give me the edge. To me, PvPing while leveling is some of the most enjoyable PvP there is. Every level feels different as you feel yourself get stronger and other players have or don't have certain spells that change the game.
Probably will fall upon deaf ears since this is kinda old, but earthbind kiting will be near impossible to achieve if you play a tauren. Reason being is the tauren attack range/range TO BE attacked is increased because of their model size. What this means is that tauren actually can attack others in melee from further away, but....they can attack you from further away too. This means earthbind kiting will be MUCH harder/sometimes impossible as a tauren shaman.
Such a great guide. Really good. Alas, this earthbind kiting is not working for me... maybe i'm to stupid. but when i hit and try to get out of the hitbox, they hit me from pretty far away while i run away. In conclusion, they get the second attack no matter how i try to run away. So i just switch to face tanking with 1-hand and shield.
ancestral recall is on an hour cooldown in vanilla . "mobs move at 50% speed" they also don't stay targeted on you though. whenever you are an invallid target they will go through the threat list and see the totem. so they have a 50% speed reduction for (at best) the radius of the totem. "50% bonus hp on totems is good" the totem has 5 hp by default. let's say it was 60% instead. that takes the hp up to 8. that is less than 1 auto attack difference.
recall is on 15 mintue cooldown according to my PTR i just logged in to verify..stoneclaw is your taunt totem and it has 50 hp at rank 1 so 50% would add 25 hp to it...rank 2 you get at level 18 and it has 150...
@@kargozgaming i see. i misinterpreted what you were talking about. classicdb.ch/?spell=2484 you were talking about slowing the target down, so i took it as the above spell and may have discounted the name you gave. (i'll have to double check to figure out what i did wrong, though i did misunderstand at least one thing). i double checked to see if the slowing totem actually had a sizable pool, and it didn't. i didn't play shaman as a main in vanilla, but i messed with a similar strategy and it didn't work because npcs were too smart. they werent' able to outsmart taunts but a variety of pathing things which should have worked didn't. hence the comment about 'autoattacks'. may have misheard, more likely i was stupid. "recall is on 15 mintue cooldown according to my PTR i just logged in to verify" private servers change things like that. i remember it being the same cooldown amount as hearth. and i was surprised when the value changed when i went back to the game and was able to use it for most quests. for that matter there was a tallent which changed it, but idk how much it was or where. i thought talented you only were able to get it down to 30 minutes though. is your PTR a blank install from the base game? or was it a version made compatible with a private server? ... i'm looking through backups of the shamen tallent trees. i could have sworn that there was one as a match for palladin's pursuit of justice, but i'm not finding anything. anyway i apologize for the errors.
I'm a new shaman and have no idea what I'm doing. Have been running around hitting things with a staff and earth shock so thanks for this.
i just started this video, scrolled to the comments and read this, thats exactly what im doing all the time :D
Never played shaman myself. Always warrior.
lol
Couple things about your hamstring kiting. you have to factor in all ranged mobs as nullifying the advantage, and add in significant frequency of tight spots where kiting even within a 10 yard radius isnt feasable due to mob density, walls, or water. Though very difficult to give a high confidence estimate on, these are going to push the advantage down quite a lot. A rough guess imo is down to 20% damage mitigation by kiting overall. Also, I know that at least sub level 20 searing totem is more efficient dpm than lightning shield. You get at least 3 fireballs for 10 dmg each and potential to crit for 15 for 25 mana before a mob dies. Searing totem pulls away even more if earthbind kiting.
You can get ranged mobs to engage in melee with you by getting close to them tho
No doubt man, you definitely have the best Classic wow guides out there, all of them are extremely well done.
The Barrens/Durotar music always gives me the feelz -- SO... MANY... MEMORIES!!!
Relbl seriously !!!
Relbl *cough* Madseason *cough*
Same
Finally people will stop complaining about you not uploading a shaman guide xD
more like finally we can get a priest guide
@@Gekk0e exactly! - just waiting for the priest one....still not sure if i wanna roll mage or priest.
Except this Shaman guide sucks.
r u kidding... his guide is fine but his reasoning behind why things work are actually troll/dumb i can't tell which
Complaining even more now cause it's strictly for Enhance. Lamest spec in entire game next to Ret Pally
Thanks for this guide, i used to play wow from 2005 to 2010 as warlock, warrior and rogue.
I always looked shaman with envy , especially the elem in PvP.
Lately i tried to play one on an instant 60 PvP pserver, i had a lot of fun really, so i plan to roll one for classic.thank you again for your great job, from France.
Leveling an Undead Warlock first, then a Troll Shaman. Your guides are really helping me decide what to level.
What's your reason? I can't decide with warlock main or shamn I had lvl 30 warlock back on the day but never played shamn
this is what I am struggling with myself. I am thinking main lock and alt shaman. That way I save on having to respec to farm gold on my shaman, instead I can just farm on my lock for both toons
How are people praising the good work 25min after a 45min vid had been posted. Can we please get real?
Annnyyyways, I was frothing at the mouth for more classic leveling videos, I'm so hyped
One of the best Classic creators right now. Stream more brother :) love the content
From my experience earth shock does insane aggro, never use it above rank 1 for interrupts. That thing is a taunt until level 40+!
That’s why you should only Shaman tank. Accept Shaman tanking into your life... it saved mine
Super detailed and comprehensive video. I just wished you showed the Earthbing kiting on video. No idea how to avoid enemy attacks.
i don't think the kiting is as imperative as he says. having said that, the trick REQUIRES a swing timer (or perfect timing in your head). You want to do a circle around your earthbind. while strafing, you want to swing once, then strafe away to be out of range of the mob. when you see your swing timer coming up for the next swing, you dip in for another hit. If you do it right, you should NEVER see the "out of range" red text, and the mob should hit you right when you hit it, and not any other time. Its kind of a pain in the ass for grinding to be honest, and you will probably get sick of it and start face tanking.
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You missed saying "33.33, repeating of course"
LOVE your videos you have helped me SO MUCH
Smashed the fuck out of that like button.
I decided out of the blue to ditch my other two chars and start a Shaman, since I wanted to aim long term (I prefer healing end-game content), and I fell in love with the Shaman; this is the most toolboxy, flexible class I've ever played and I love it. I feel like you have to constantly think about how to maximize your efficiency and you have solutions to a ton of different problems.
I heard you mention the earthbind kiting in your stream and I've been using rockbiter/2h, and you can feel the efficiency improve drastically - it even gives you time to restore your mana better if you time your lightning shields properly.
I did roll Resto Shaman based on Melderon's guide, but I'm probably going to respec into the 2h Enhancement build to kite Solo content better.
Keep doing what you do man, your content is epic!~ I hope you make some non-class related guides in the future.
I love that you give us the presentation. I can't thank you enough for all the work you put into your guides. They've really helped me become a better player.
So pumped to be one of the good players this go around instead of one of the bads :)
Kargoz your content is so good ("five outta five") that i'm hoping u'll release sooner or later an how to: level 60 guide for healing classes for example, in which u show which ranks are the best for healing, how to counteract some dynamic, the regen mana/sec value and some tips here and there. Looking forward for it and keep on the marvelous work!
I'm really digging your series. Some of this stuff is pretty daunting, honestly. I started playing in TBC and never did any of the tricks you've mentioned in your guides, such as the sit macro, front stab/shred, etc. All the APM seems super complex. I'm guessing that unless you're going for the fastest leveling speed possible, such tactics aren't really necessary for success.
Don't worry that won't work on Classic. That is for private servers only. If it would work on Blizz servers they would patch it straight away since it's way too OP.
Front stab and shred did work in vanilla. The new engines work smoother and won't have the delay like in the old days and private servers. So most likely those spells won't work in classic
Oh my Gaaawd, Enhancement Shaman in Vanilla was so much fun! I loved how I could tank stuff every so often, and using a giant hammer while casting shocks just felt so right.
When I was leveling a shaman for the first time I never knew what the talent tree looked like, I had to grind as hard as I could to level 10 to be able to see where the class could go, seeing that two- handed axe and mace ability was such a bad ass feeling knowing you were teaching yourself to carry something bigger and cooler if you could make it
Thanks for re-uploading those Kargoz. Theyre so cozy and relaxing to watch
It looks like this hasn't been mentioned, but Classic uses the same Macro API as Retail; /startattack and all of those other useful commands found in Retail macros will work in Classic (I did only test /startattack, however)
/cancelaura also worked for me to make a macro to cancel ghost wolf. Also /dismount worked for me for the same macro, it's great
YOU FORGOT to mention the most important thing regarding leveling... World PvP! On a PvP server you really want to be Elemental from L40 onwards!! Almost no other class can withstand that burst!! Maybe paladins but who cares about them anyway - you can always run away from a pally!
man mode windfury or nothing pussy
nah mate, Windfury or nothing.
Nuclearcx you're right. All these enhance nubs.. ele shaman is way better and has a much higher skill cap. You're doing your team a huge disservice by not going ele/ns
Knågen 1 bursty boi 😂
@@user-yk7dc9hu2k who cares, wf 2 hand beastboy >> all
Love the guide. Now, im going ignore the rockbiter over WFW part tho. Huge overkills and mobs hp disappearing from 100-0 is some of the best fun while leveling a sham :)
And is the equivalent of inefficiency.
@@t3chn0dr0n3 who cares about efficiency? The game is about having fun, and windfury is the most fun ability a shaman has!
Glad to see that you are growing Kargoz. Really informative guides! Keep up the good work!
i like your intro and the usage of vanilla music, it's so beautiful
I'm so hyped for the coming Priest guide!
Yes!
I made it before tbc! Thank you. Could not have gotten shaman 60 without this.
I was really hoping when you were talking about damage reduction earthbind kiting you would have said "33.3% chance repeating of course"
i see what you did there
It’s a lot better than what we usually do
I've tested one more leveling tactic on Enhancement spec: use dagger and shield with WF until crit procs and flurry start working, then with macro change weapon to slow 2H with RB and atack while flurry is working. You can cast stromstrike too. When flurry is over change weapon to dagger and shield again. Repeat
Can’t wait to play my Panda Demon Huntard as it was back in Classic. Throwback to the good ol’ days!
I never played a shaman until the end of Legion. It's now my favorite class.
Again, for sure the best guides out there. Thank you so much for making these, so much fun watching and picturing all the advenures to come. Cheers brother
Also youre a genius thinking about earthbind kiting.. dunno how its not a thing yet
yo Kargoz thx shammy guide, played shaman as my first class back in vanilla( and beta)! Its epic following you and see how your stream and video-guides improve every time! keep singing in the shower it works ;)!
Wow i learned a lot, ive been using dagger + shield with rockbitter, because i thought that windfury adds 20% 3x crit chance + normal crit which equals (1 + ( 0.4 * wf attacks) (1 + crit chance) which should be around 1.6x normal dmg with chance to overkill mob, vs rockbitter which almost double normal attack power with strength totem and I thought that would be more consistent ~2x normal dmg.
After getting lvl 40 and storm strike i decided to lookup a guide because i thought two hander must be faster with stormstrike, so i ended up here :)
Really nice tutorial.
I couldn't decide what class to play so I listed all the classes and the major pros, cons and differences between them, told my gf to pick one for me. She glanced at it for 2 seconds and said "sheimen".
If you're using a 2H-weapon, why would you put any points into Shield Specialization? Even if you think the mana increase from the other talent is very small, it still seems more economically rational to put points there. With Shield Specialization they seem to be totally wasted (unless I'm missing something).
I'd like to understand this as well..
I know people argue that while the mana increase is neglible, the shield talent is worth something if you carry a shield for off-tanking
For tanking in 5-man dungeons I guess.
It's to keep the option open to be a tank. If you want to tank, all you have to do is put on a 1h weapon + shield instead of re-speccing your talents
Well if you know you don’t wanna tank, then don’t put your points into shield specialization.
For tanking you should always use stoneskin, healing stream totems, they are op. Pull groups with lightning bolt on one target, while it travels, cast chain lightning on another target. Cheers!
One thing I feel many shaman guides hate on is spirit for leveling. In my opinion it is a very strong stat, and it's worth picking up such items in situations where it's normally avoided. Your shocks in particular while leveling will always do more damage than stormstrike, even when stacking strength and agil gear. Also it cuts down on your mob killing time as you are allowed to use more of your spells, which are the real meat and potatoes of your damage. Stamina is only useful for world pvp, you will rarely be in a situation where stacking stam will change the outcome in a pve encounter.
Espically for trolls as i go restro
woot, i discovered you guides a few days ago and i really wanted to see the shaman one, was really happy when i saw this show up!
Where did you get your picture?
@@g3nch798 some wallpaper website probably in the last 5-10 years xD
Them talent trees bring back so many memories. I did pretty damn good damage as elemental in MC/ZG. Did a lot of resto through BWL/AQ20. There's something satisfying af about that resto tree. Mana/healing tide pimpin. xD
15:27 Im gonna take a sip of coffee XDD, love your Guide
Some thoughts on 2h progression:
Illusionary Rod
=> SM Library, you might upset some caster group mates, but it is a significant upgrade if you were unlucky with corpsemaker, I couldn't get one with 4 kraul runs, and if you build a group were you heal, no one should have an issue with it either, plus there's no guarantee you'll get your hands on Ravager or MM in armory/cath
The Pacifier
Drops from a rare in alterac mountains. Might not be soloable before ~ lvl35 even though it has lvl32 req, can be found on the ah though. 4.00 speed is insane as well as the stats
The nicker drops in lbrs, not in dm
I struggled with my shaman at late 20s/early 30s due to poor luck as far as weapon drops were concerned (corpsemaker :( ) , so yeah, maybe buy a decent green if cm doesn't work out for you.
Thank you so much for these guides, I really look forward to getting into Classic when the official servers release!
This guide is Nutterbutters!
Finally! The shaymin guide!!!
I have no clue how nobody knew about Earthbind kiting for all of these years. I never played Classic but when I got to Lightbringer private server about a year ago I figured this out around lvl 16... lol. Just side strafed in a circle around my Earthbind while Flame Shock and Fire Totem went to work. Figured it was just common sense. Great guide though! Keep up the good work.
This is the most in depth guide I have ever seen in my life.
From someone who leveled up a shaman in vanilla, and did everything the hard way...I recommend the earthbind totem kite. To the next generation, Heed this guide, it is good advice for leveling.
IMPORTANT NOTICE: In the dagger progression guide, it suggests "distracting dagger" However in Vanilla/Classic WoW, This dagger is *Off-hand only.*
You have me excited to play every single class! I've rolled shaman the past four servers and here I am wanting to come back for more -- thanks man!
169k views? Why is it only showing the number of times I've watched this guide?
Your videos on the topic is awesome.
I'm getting closer to my decision..
What I would like to see is.. perhaps too much work..
But here it goes;
A video where you lay out the questing for 1-60 for each class, but focus more on the rewards and gear part.
Where do I go for weapons, what quest chains do I start, what dungeons do I do and at what level should I consider it?
What about armor pieces?
Make it class specific..
What dungeons are relevant for a shamans gear? What zones can I skip?
A bonus; what is the best mobs to farm for gold/mounts as each class?
What about farming for the rare legendary world drops?
Boy have I been waiting for this one, about to go on lunch break now and watch it
This will probably be my main guide going into classic. Thank you
Looking forward to playing my pandaren shaman on classic launch, but getting to lvl 120 is gonna be tough.
O.O
I have already created my Highmountain Tauren in Classic. The leveling is slow but with my heirlooms it should go a little faster
Dang, didn't you guys hear about lvl-boost? I just boosted my Worgen Death knight to 110 in like an instant. Last few lvls tho, gonna be a rough road ahead...
Can't wait for the priest guide...
Not bad. Definitely rolling a shaman when classic comes out. I'll remember this
Yo, now that classic is out we know sitting and getting crit doesn't proc things like vanilla servers, so pretty sure the eye of the storm trick won't work on live. Great vid though
Awesome man! Looking forward to your next stream too mate
Love the earth bind kiting strat, I'll be honest though I think the reason why people don't use it so much is because it can be tedious to do it over long periods of time, when just staying out of the 5 sec rule and then healing when appropriate gets the job done the vast majority of the time. Still this strat is great for elites or dealing with lots of mobs at once.
Best class in the game, Enhance shaman minority inc
And I had a Sulfuras ! 1 shooting Pallys in Battlegrounds was really funny 😁!
I never played Enh on Vanilla. i'd like to roll one when clasic hits. I can see it can smash in PvP with a 2H. But was it also good in PvE ? Were 2 x 1H not a thing in vanilla ? Thanks
@@evoknz no dual wielding in vanilla. But you just needed the biggest slowest 2h you could get your hands on with windfury and stacking crit. Using stormstrike you could triple crit on windfury and then toss an earthshock and melt faces. The unstoppable force is a good weapon for that.
In PvE, it can also work but you need a good tank because your damage is so spikey you can easily pull hate. A lot of times I'd accidentally pull hate and would just spam lesser healing wave on myself until the tank could pull hate back. It was fun. 😁
@@donskiver If I make an Enh mostly for Pvp will I be able to compete with most of the others dps? And most importantly will I be recruited in a raid group as Enh easily?
@@evoknz evoknz in all honesty, most raids want resto shaman for mana tide totem. When I raided, I was lucky to be in a guild that had more than enough geared healers that I didn't need to respec resto every week. I did however, need to have healing gear with lots of int so that I was at least competent when spamming lesser healing wave. I wasn't that worried about tier loot for my shaman since t1 and t2 stuff was geared towards resto and I was more into PvP with my shaman. (My main was a warlock that I got burnt out raiding with).
As for PvP, my damage was hot and cold. Since I depended on windfury procs and those procs critting, I could sometimes top the chart or other times be near the bottom. It was all about how lucky I was. I imagine if I had better gear with enough crit stacked, my dps would have been more consistent but as it was it was very bursty.
But that suited me just fine since it was like gambling for me and it was a big rush when I had a hot streak seeing all those big numbers fly lol.
Please do a guide for healers! With all healers classes.
Nice guide Kargoz, only youtuber that I know of who actually gets opinion from multiple good players to compile a useful guide. Most people just google the default stuff and pretend they know shit.
My god this is nerdy. Good job! Love it
I see this video was made in 2018. We now know that earthbind kiting doesn't work in retail because of melee leeway and how NPC attack animations are handled. It would be nice if the video could be updated to reflect that.
for real, it's basically worthless since almost half of it talks about earthbind kiting
Shammy guide, halfway through, damn let me find that Unbreakable video on TH-cam. Checking the video being hit hard with nostalgia. I'll roll an Orc Shammy in Classic. I've played Alliance during Vanilla. (Dwarf Paladin) So Horde during classic only seems fitting. And Unbreakable has been the Shaman during Vanilla days. So let me see if I'll enjoy it. I do remember fighting Shammy's in PvP in the vanilla days. And they have always been a massive pain in the ass.
Not weapon progression guide? I guess it would be nuts to work that out. Great video as always!
there is weapon progression listed on the last few slides :)
33:27 Imp Lightning Shield over Anticipation... every time. Making your most efficient spell that much stronger is a no brainer over 2-3% dodge.
"slightly more damage": 15% damage increase on a skill is one of the larger talent damage buffs. 5% per point is nothing to scoff at. This is vanilla we're talking about. This is going to stack multiplicatively with Stormstrike as well.
And just to beat the dead horse of "what if" here, as a Shammy tank, that's 15% more threat from LS. So no, not even taking dodge over that either.
Thanks for the guide Kargoz. I appreciate all the time you spent on this. It's really great to have all of this information in one place. I especially enjoyed the information on earthbind kiting. I've been trying that out more and really like it, it just makes a lot of sense to basically mitigate almost 50% of damage against mobs if done correctly. Cheers brother :)
LB-(pull)-FS-LB-(spam)-(ontopofyou)-(switchtomelee)-ES
Don't drop totems, forget the shield, mana and health can be easily managed and love and use your Ghost Wolf whenever your moving.
Huzzah! Shaman guide finally! Thanks Kargoz
So in your druid video you broke down the traveling time required before it's better to mount up. How about a breakdown of exactly how far that distance would be on the Barrens map? For us lazy people.
...Or you could just get a stopwatch, set it to 17 seconds, and start running in ghost wolf in the barrens. Start at the crossroads and see if you make it to Ratchet (my guess is you will).
The breakdown for mount time vs ghost was was interesting. Love to hear these breakdowns mathwise.
Glad you paraphrased the class overview section. It made it a lot more interesting! Keep it up.
Not a single video on Earthbind Kiting on TH-cam xD.... gonna have to try this one...
i want to find one myself
I guess the only hard thing about it is the timing, the earthbind doesn't constantly slow during its duration, it procs every 3 seconds I believe (it's been a while since I played)
So you've gotta make sure the mob is in range of the turret while kiting
@@Half_Finis also sometimes mobs or players resist it
Thank you so much for this extremly well made video, I am coming back to WoW to finally be able to play the shaman i Played back in 2006, and thanks to you it seems I will do it much better.
Thanks man! Instant Sub.
For me now, leveling a tauren shaman in private server, Stoneclaw totem is a BEAST. Pop it down if you pull more than you can chew, and it is no problem. The unsung hero of shaman, Stoneclaw totem.
does earthbind kiting work now?
protip - x is default keybind for sitting, no need to type /sit at all rly unless you use x as a bind
My only complaint is a personal one. I highly, highly, HIGHLY prefer to dip into Resto early to get Nature's Guidance. I make sure to get Imp Ghost Wolf by 20, then filter in as many talent points to get Nature's Guidance since +hit% is incomparable in value to anything in early Vanilla (i.e. leveling up, just hitting 60 and gearing up, etc.)
I cannot count how many times I've died to both players and mobs because too many spells/hits didn't land and that even 1 would have changed the tide of the battle. Besides, having early healing spells makes it a bit easier to heal dungeons
Finally, this entire guide is rather good, but it's under the assumption you're going to speed level and endlessly grind and never do anything else. A good guide for a PvE server/low pop realm with little focus on PvP. I usually encourage people who are leveling on a PvP server that has a decent population to consider choosing more PvP oriented talents (Elemental Warding, Eye of the Storm, Guardian Totems, Healing Focus, etc.) so you stand a better chance against the inevitable.
Me personally, I PvP a lot, so they're always talents I highly consider to help give me the edge. To me, PvPing while leveling is some of the most enjoyable PvP there is. Every level feels different as you feel yourself get stronger and other players have or don't have certain spells that change the game.
Awesome guides so detailed and i m not even playing vanilla wow, i m just enjoying the video! Cheers m8 good work!
Never realized how deep the shaman is before. Damn cool to see.
I didn't have a mount on my shaman until I was 67
I didnt have a mount until 120
[Laughing in Druid Fly Formish]
@bill miller shamans did get a travel form called "Ghost Wolf Form"
YES kargoz made my work day so much better
The only issue with the elemental build is the sit proc wont be in classic, that is only a bug in private servers.
Windfury ravager axe is silly and fun.
It does SICK Dmg when it appears. But when you fighting a mob and looses half of your health before it appears its MEH
Keep up the good work dude, haven't watched it all yet, but you never release anything that isn't incredible so
I miss classic shaman was my first toon to 60. I definitely had to off tank quite often back in the day if the warrior died.
These are absolutely brilliant! Honestly sad that you are gonna run out of classes
YO FINNALY MY MAN
u the best love ya kargoz
Yay 100th like. Jokes aside been waiting a while for this one. Thanks a bunch for taking your time uploading this!
Can't wait for the Shaman guide....oh wait.
Great video bringing me back to my old main troll shammy
Great guide, brother!!
YAY THIS IS WHAT I WANTED SINCE PALLY
Probably will fall upon deaf ears since this is kinda old, but earthbind kiting will be near impossible to achieve if you play a tauren. Reason being is the tauren attack range/range TO BE attacked is increased because of their model size. What this means is that tauren actually can attack others in melee from further away, but....they can attack you from further away too. This means earthbind kiting will be MUCH harder/sometimes impossible as a tauren shaman.
Incredible work!!
Please do shadow priest next!!;)
U never ever mentioned downtime for each spec and how that transition to overall leveling speed
Instantly got me hooked at the start of the video. Thanks for all the info.
Yeeeees! Finally, my man! Thank you! I'll watch it until I've memorized everything.
Such a great guide. Really good. Alas, this earthbind kiting is not working for me... maybe i'm to stupid. but when i hit and try to get out of the hitbox, they hit me from pretty far away while i run away. In conclusion, they get the second attack no matter how i try to run away. So i just switch to face tanking with 1-hand and shield.
ancestral recall is on an hour cooldown in vanilla .
"mobs move at 50% speed" they also don't stay targeted on you though. whenever you are an invallid target they will go through the threat list and see the totem. so they have a 50% speed reduction for (at best) the radius of the totem.
"50% bonus hp on totems is good" the totem has 5 hp by default. let's say it was 60% instead. that takes the hp up to 8. that is less than 1 auto attack difference.
recall is on 15 mintue cooldown according to my PTR i just logged in to verify..stoneclaw is your taunt totem and it has 50 hp at rank 1 so 50% would add 25 hp to it...rank 2 you get at level 18 and it has 150...
@@kargozgaming
i see. i misinterpreted what you were talking about.
classicdb.ch/?spell=2484
you were talking about slowing the target down, so i took it as the above spell and may have discounted the name you gave. (i'll have to double check to figure out what i did wrong, though i did misunderstand at least one thing).
i double checked to see if the slowing totem actually had a sizable pool, and it didn't.
i didn't play shaman as a main in vanilla, but i messed with a similar strategy and it didn't work because npcs were too smart. they werent' able to outsmart taunts but a variety of pathing things which should have worked didn't. hence the comment about 'autoattacks'.
may have misheard, more likely i was stupid.
"recall is on 15 mintue cooldown according to my PTR i just logged in to verify" private servers change things like that. i remember it being the same cooldown amount as hearth. and i was surprised when the value changed when i went back to the game and was able to use it for most quests. for that matter there was a tallent which changed it, but idk how much it was or where. i thought talented you only were able to get it down to 30 minutes though. is your PTR a blank install from the base game? or was it a version made compatible with a private server? ... i'm looking through backups of the shamen tallent trees. i could have sworn that there was one as a match for palladin's pursuit of justice, but i'm not finding anything.
anyway i apologize for the errors.