i'm not even planning on leveling half these classes, i just watch these because they're so well put together and it's so satisfying how smart and well thought out they are
For those of you trying to find a leveling guide in 2021, understand that Kargoz' guides are really only viable of you plan on being super sweaty with your leveling. Like the /sit gimmick between enemy auto attacks, if you're gonna level at your own pace and not try to poop-sock your way to 60, doing that is completely unnecessary. But there are bits of info scattered throughout his guides that can be of use to a casual leveler(aka someone not trying to hit max level as fast and efficiently as possible), such as the weapon progression segment and the talent segment to name a couple. You may not need to go the same build as Kargoz suggests if you're playing at a casual pace, but he does give legit insight as to why some talents are better than others, and might help to inform your decision on where to spend points if you're not sure.
His guide is viable for all players. You're an idiot if you think this guide is for ''sweaty'' players. ''Legit insights''. Like what do you know about paladin leveling ? You only criticize the content without actual referring to corrections. You're such an idiot damn.
@@remyboivin4137 His guides are for sweaties though? He even says so himself in pretty much all of his guides when he gives the disclaimer that his guides are meant to provide the most optimal, quickest ways to get to max level. I think the misunderstanding here is you're making the assumption that I use the term "sweaty" as an insult. To me, someone who is "Sweaty" is someone who has optimized the fun out of the game. But that is also subjective as some people enjoy running at max 100% optimal performance all the time and find that "stopping to smell the roses" so to speak is a waste of time, and thus not fun. So, before you bust your fanboy nut all over my back, how's about you look me in the face first so you can understand me clearly.
@@remyboivin4137 You know him, or you "know" him in the way a crazed fan knows a celebrity? Did you donate to his stream and he said thanks now you think you two are best bros?
Even though I have no interest in speed leveling (I tend to play immersive wow), I do find your videos interesting and full of tips I may use in my play. Thank you!
Other paladin guides: " press SoC and auto-attack and go afk" Kargoz paladin guide: *40min long in-depth vid*. once again you went the extra mile! really good job. Easy to follow, good presentation, a nice and engaging voice flow !! epic as always
Since /sit not proccing reckoning or a couple other abilities has been put in the not-a-bug list by blizzard, I think this guide and the warrior one will need to be redone.
I used the SoC + Alt-Tab method to play wow while at work. My friends have now started playing WoW Classic on the Horde side, so I can't play the game anymore :(
yeah me too. But didn't matter i had fun leveling a paladin and i didn't find it boring or slow. I really like the unique Paladin class design. Only thing that today would be annoying is that prot paladin didn't work back then. And prot paladin is by far my favourite tank
Oh my goodness same dude. I spent *literal* months GRINDING Defias Brotherhood members directly outside the stormwind gates around Mirror Pond to teens than more grinding the orcs in the passes that connect Loch Modan to Wetlands to the my late 20’s. No joke good 7-9 months before I figured out questing gave out way more XP 🤦♂️
Even tho i don't play Classic i love these videos. I enjoy how indepth you're going and how detailed all the classes can be with specs and weapons! keep it up bro, you're making alot of new players like me excited to play classic.
Thank god i read the comments before i commited lmao. I love the guide and the way you explain things but it would be great if you did an updated classic version since anniversary classic is here and reckoning doesnt work anymore.
@@xrhdin Reckoning doesn't work like this. That was a bug on private servers and doesn't work in live, you have to do a /sit macro and time standing up at just the right time to "trick" the game into thinking that you're standing. So there is a lot of information about a Reckoning build which isn't accurate for Classic.
Platinum literally through your comment on this amazing kargoz video have I found yet another diamond in the rough channel that is yours! So thank you to you both... subbed :)
On Nostalrius i used a hybrid holy/prot build. It allowed me to heal tank and DPS in dungeons and i could level with little to no downtime because Divine Favor and Consecration. Overall a pretty good class!
How did you spec your talents and what not? I was thinking of doing the same as I was going over the talents. Do you still start off levelling as ret and respec? or just start off down prot or holy tree?
Great guide! Something else to add about paladins is that most of there cons for pvp (even pve to a degree) can be greatly reduced with engineering. On Northdale, and even back on Elysium, I was able to go toe-to-toe with frost mages and hunters with my dwarf pally thanks to that profession. Even later in the game, it only takes a few paladins to bubble -> goblin sapper charge and you can wipe out an entire horde raid!
As a pally player since vanilla I wish there had been a guide done this well when I was still playing. I hope the classic game coming back affords you the opportunity to make even more classic content!
Two weeks ago I watched this video and I didn't understand anything about the skills chain, but I've played it for 2 weeks now and i understand everything. I'm about to be level 32 so I came back here and watched it all over again.
Love all the videos. Any chance you can update this/make a new guide knowing that /sit reck-bombing won't be possible? Curious to see what your take is on the best solo spec without that option.
Seeing the ppt reminds me like takeing a lecture back on high school or some topics on collegue, I found as leveling a holy pally that divine favor helps a lot to speed the questing expirience. Also holy shock with divine favor helps to pull mobs as if its needed to tank a little like a form to recover some aggro back if you lose it from a mob.
Thank you! This is an incredible guide, and will make life so much easier. It's funny seeing how, back in the day, very few people had ANY idea that these mechanics/strategies even existed. Can't wait for Classic to launch
I'm not going to play paladin but I just knew that the quality of this video would be so high that I couldn't pass up watching it. Love your work, keep it up!
Am planning on going pally in classic so this'll be extremely helpful, will definitely have the talent and weapon progression open on the side. Really good quality guide!
>Vulnerable in world PvP Oh my Goooooooooooood did I feel that struggle. Hunters with half a brain were basically unkillable for me when I played on Nostalrius. Also this video resparked my love of paladins. I had intended to go priest first whenever Classic comes out, but now I think I'll go back to the good ol' paladin. There wasn't much of a better feeling than grouping up with some random folks to do various kill quests together, one person suggesting we try an elite area (like the Redridge castle for example), others in the group being unsure since we're all DPS, and then, WHAM, DISH OUT THOSE HOLY LIGHTS LIKE A PRO AND KEEP THE PARTY ALIVE right after having been bashing in skulls like a Ret pally does.
Hey! Love your videos! ST reckoning is actually better if you use the stacks right away -- If you can time your sits between your and the mobs swing timers you'll be doing more dps because you don't miss out on your regular auto attacks. This applies for single target, and it's a bit more complicated to perform. Keep up the good work! :)
Kargoz, I fall in love with tanking style in vanilla since I started my warrior on Nostalrius. I wanted so badly to tank and aoe grind as pally, your guide is just PERFECT ! Thank you for all the big work you put into these videos.
This is nuts. I played paladin in vanilla, and had pretty much settled on warrior for Classic, but now I'm really feeling paladin again because of this video. Interesting info. Thanks.
Simple...because is the class i love the most and feel more comfortable with. For race i'm torn between going full min/max with Gnome or stick with Human....hard choice :D
I don't usually write a comment, but man these guides are detailed and awesome. Keep up the good work. Every one of them builds excitement while waiting for classic. Could you by any means make a series of leveling route/quest guide?!
Contrary to what many say Reckoning talent work just as the tooltip says in classic: it gives you extra swings when you take critical hits. It's a very good talent / build and that's what I use for HC. You don't want to use a /sit macro anyway, taking extra damage is just going to increase your downtime.
@@braaapdaps6814 like he said it works as intended and is still a great talent, only issue with prot in vanilla is no taunt so when you dungeon as prot you need your group to let you get a couple tics of conc off before they open up.
Excellent channel and the best Wow streamer IMO. I started playing wow a month before Burning Crusade.. i played up until MoP.... I would come back every time a expansion dropped but never stayed.. the game felt so different.. Classic is fucking awesome. these vids are very helpful as a Paladin
Per esfand reckoning does not stack and does in fact hit when it procs and resets your swing timer. The stacks only worked on pservers and not on classic.
This is almost correct. While the sit macro no longer working to proc reckoning stacks, if you spam "X" to sit /stand you will sometimes get a good enough rhythm to get reckoning stacks. It is however extremely unreliable.
Hey man, it's now confirmed that /sit macros do not work in Classic. I know a few other levelling guides of yours relied on them for some specs, are you planning to release some updated guide content?
@@nicholaspage7397 Being critically struck while using /sit to sit does not cause abilities like Enrage, Blood Craze, and Reckoning to activate. - us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-classic-not-a-bug-list/175887/1. But what youre saying is that you just need to sit, like, a few milliseconds before getting hit?
Awesome guide mate! You made my choice to IF i wanted to play it even. And made my choice in what i am goong to play. Well done subbed and liked. Looking foreward to more vids.
After playing the Classic demo and playing in a ton of group I discovered something. I enjoy healing. Never had any interest before but I guess I judged a book by it's cover. Also turns out that paladin is my favorite healing class... So uhh... yeah see you in classic. Bubble Boy out.
@@goawaygosh Paladin has the most mana efficient single target heal (flash of light), healing the main tank in raids, takes probably 2 weeks until they run out of mana. Also the blessings and auras are nice for the party. Only stupid thing is that blessings last only 5 minutes (except greater blessings 15min). Don't really understand why they can't last 30 mins like most buffs in the game.
damn normally when so many videos r uploaded u notice a lack in quality but every single one of these guides r quality im not even gonna play half of these classes but worth a watch anyway lmao
Hey Kargoz, I think you might need to add something in about the Reckoninb Bomb, since in the release version of classic (why people most likely be watching this) they actually fixed the reconning bomb (because of the world boss first kill thing). So there is no actuall bomb anymore but rather instantly jumps to your next autoattack. agains casters, this is actually very often a down side and therefore it's not really recommended to bother about reckoning.
Yes, is there an updated video that contains correct reckoning info? I feel like this video says "Pallys are pretty bad until they get reckoning." If the reckoning info is incorrect, where does that leave Pallys?
Another well put together guide. If you need any shaman inputs, I recommend reaching to some of the shaman community. It’s one of those classes that a lot of people have been mislead on the best ways to level.
Excellent guide, well worth the 40m for anyone considering lvling a paladin once classic comes out. I lvld ret/holy, ignored repentance in favor of divine favor. Saved my butt more then once. Gonna do the reck/ret build when classic drops, looks like fun and cant wait.
Thank you these guides are very helpful but now I'm stuck between rolling a pally with easy leveling, free mount, and best tier 2 & 3 sets in the game... Orrrr a warrior with the most difficult leveling process, high gear dependence BUT with pve tank and pvp dps viability which is huge for me. Damn...
Late comment but this was a joy, everything neatly packaged and explained. You also pointed to the deeper levels of efficiency and time management i now see the way more broadly :D....Thanks man!
You won't have to since it's a private server quirk that doesn't work in the retail client. You don't get automatically critted when sitting down since that was patched away during vanilla.
sepfirem the only reason reckoning was a thing was because of the macro, without the macro, you literally cannot do dmg so now going full Ret is the only option now
As a seasoned Hunter I strongly disagreed with a whole lot of points you made there. But, the sheer effort and information on this Paladin one really balanced the scale as I thoroughly appreciated it and can honestly say I learned quite a lot from its details as I lean towards making a Paladin come Classic. Thank you very much Kargoz!
Hey man love your videos. Just to clarify, are you sure the /sit thing will work in classic? I am pretty sure the procs on sit crits were disabled in vanilla specifically to prevent it from being able to be used like this. I think it was the next patch after the hotfix where Blizzard added the stack limit of 4 due to the Kazzak one shot. At the same time Warriors were hit so they couldn't use it to proc Blood Craze and Enrage. Please correct if I am wrong, I am going off memory here, but I am so sure the /sit crit procs weren't a thing by 1.12, you got crit but your defensive talents didn't proc. When I first saw this on Nost it leapt out at me as being incorrect.
I’m one of those players who will take my time and enjoy the game That being said, I really do enjoy all your guides. They are crazy in-depth and detailed! This one made me change my whole perspective on Vanilla Paladins, I always thought they were one of the most boring classes to level because of all the auto-attacking but after watching your guide, I have an urge to level one! 👌👌
I’m incredibly stoked for Classic WoW. I’ll be honest, most of my early WoW knowledge/memories comes from BC.. but I have nostalgic leveling experiences reaching far back into Vanilla. It sucks that prot paladins weren’t sought after as raid ranks. I’m curious if the amount of information we have these days to maximize a class could offset this a bit?? Thoughts? I’ve played a bit of private server in the past but for Mac it’s a pain in the ass and I’m not in love with the idea of the server shutting down and losing all the work you put into something. Stoked for classic and would love to be a part of whatever team you forge for Classic!
Prot pallies were extremely limited in vanilla, both due to their spell kit as well as the gear available. Very little gear would give +intellect and +defense, so paladins would either be A) Uncrushable from bosses, but have a very small mana pool meaning low threat generation, or B) Have great threat generation with a large mana pool, but have low defense and get crit/crushed by bosses, making them very squishy. It's similar for druid tanks as well, though not nearly as impactful due to armor carrying them further without +defense gear. Paladins also don't have a taunt, so there's that.
Drathamus these are all great points. Thanks for your contribution! I didn’t realize prot didn’t have a taunt yet back then.. that would be a welcomed change. Lol Again, most of my prot experience comes from BC. Mana was still an issue but good use of wisdom seals/judgement was a decent counter
As an old old paladin who loved reckoning and tested it to all of its limits in vanilla, engaging in auto attack will attempt to use reckoning, and if you are out of range, (or not facing the target) the reckoning stack gets wasted. Also, the sit thing didn't work either. I haven't played in vanilla beta, but this is 100% how reckoning worked back then. Reckoning was a pretty uncommon thing to see, because it was actually fairly hard to use because you had to be careful not to have auto attack engaged at all. That's why it was so unique, because so few paladins really ran around with it. That being said, one of my favorite moments was solo killing two horde rogues who tried to gank me in un goro when I was level 56 and they were 58 and 60, because reckoning made all those fast crits with their daggers was met with instant 2H damage in the face. Also, I would save my HoJ for the unleash of the reck bomb so there would be no parries or dodges. especially when pvping against rogues/hunters.
i'm not even planning on leveling half these classes, i just watch these because they're so well put together and it's so satisfying how smart and well thought out they are
For those of you trying to find a leveling guide in 2021, understand that Kargoz' guides are really only viable of you plan on being super sweaty with your leveling. Like the /sit gimmick between enemy auto attacks, if you're gonna level at your own pace and not try to poop-sock your way to 60, doing that is completely unnecessary. But there are bits of info scattered throughout his guides that can be of use to a casual leveler(aka someone not trying to hit max level as fast and efficiently as possible), such as the weapon progression segment and the talent segment to name a couple. You may not need to go the same build as Kargoz suggests if you're playing at a casual pace, but he does give legit insight as to why some talents are better than others, and might help to inform your decision on where to spend points if you're not sure.
His guide is viable for all players. You're an idiot if you think this guide is for ''sweaty'' players. ''Legit insights''. Like what do you know about paladin leveling ? You only criticize the content without actual referring to corrections. You're such an idiot damn.
@@remyboivin4137 His guides are for sweaties though? He even says so himself in pretty much all of his guides when he gives the disclaimer that his guides are meant to provide the most optimal, quickest ways to get to max level. I think the misunderstanding here is you're making the assumption that I use the term "sweaty" as an insult. To me, someone who is "Sweaty" is someone who has optimized the fun out of the game. But that is also subjective as some people enjoy running at max 100% optimal performance all the time and find that "stopping to smell the roses" so to speak is a waste of time, and thus not fun.
So, before you bust your fanboy nut all over my back, how's about you look me in the face first so you can understand me clearly.
@@SomethingScotty Nah. You wasted your time writing your last reply. You made no sense. I know Kargoz. You don't.
@@remyboivin4137 You know him, or you "know" him in the way a crazed fan knows a celebrity? Did you donate to his stream and he said thanks now you think you two are best bros?
Even though I have no interest in speed leveling (I tend to play immersive wow), I do find your videos interesting and full of tips I may use in my play. Thank you!
Honestly the quality, entertainment and work put into these is insane.
Keep up the good work, hope you'll get more subs asap!
Other paladin guides: " press SoC and auto-attack and go afk"
Kargoz paladin guide: *40min long in-depth vid*.
once again you went the extra mile! really good job. Easy to follow, good presentation, a nice and engaging voice flow !! epic as always
You aren't really supposed to go AFK, you are supposed to alt tab and watch porn to exercise your mouse hand..... :P
@@matilija I still have that picture with that post saved. Greatest thing ever.
Since /sit not proccing reckoning or a couple other abilities has been put in the not-a-bug list by blizzard, I think this guide and the warrior one will need to be redone.
IT'S GOOD THAT SOMEONE FINALLY GET'S IT
I used the SoC + Alt-Tab method to play wow while at work.
My friends have now started playing WoW Classic on the Horde side, so I can't play the game anymore :(
Watching this shows me how much of a noob I was in 2005 leveling a Pally.
yeah me too. But didn't matter i had fun leveling a paladin and i didn't find it boring or slow. I really like the unique Paladin class design. Only thing that today would be annoying is that prot paladin didn't work back then. And prot paladin is by far my favourite tank
I feel ya! :P
Same.
We all sucked back then, one of the reasons why we all had so much fun!
Oh my goodness same dude. I spent *literal* months GRINDING Defias Brotherhood members directly outside the stormwind gates around Mirror Pond to teens than more grinding the orcs in the passes that connect Loch Modan to Wetlands to the my late 20’s. No joke good 7-9 months before I figured out questing gave out way more XP 🤦♂️
Even tho i don't play Classic i love these videos. I enjoy how indepth you're going and how detailed all the classes can be with specs and weapons! keep it up bro, you're making alot of new players like me excited to play classic.
Awesome video dude. It's nice to see all these highly detailed/informational classic WoW channels popping up. keep grinding man!
Thank god i read the comments before i commited lmao. I love the guide and the way you explain things but it would be great if you did an updated classic version since anniversary classic is here and reckoning doesnt work anymore.
Your guides are legendary man, so excited for classic !
Harrison Jones me tooooooo
Inspired me to go back to my 32 Paladin and try the reck bomb build!
I'm probably not the only one who lost 5g+10g speccing reckoning to realize it doesn't work in Classic. DO NOT FOLLOW THE RECK BUILD IN THIS GUIDE
There's a lot of misinformation floating about from private servers. Sadly this guide is older so used that misinformation
what doesnt work? Explain please :o
@@xrhdin Reckoning doesn't work like this. That was a bug on private servers and doesn't work in live, you have to do a /sit macro and time standing up at just the right time to "trick" the game into thinking that you're standing. So there is a lot of information about a Reckoning build which isn't accurate for Classic.
@@Nobleshield But i mean , shouldnt u still respec on 32? Its the same thing
Sitting down won't trigger reckoning, but it will if you sit and move forward just before they hit you, it will.
Kargoz! Stop, you absolute madman! The content is too good! TH-cam can't handle this level of amazing!
How in the gosh darn heck do you pump out videos so fast.
hey bro do you have a min to chat voice in discord? :D
Yeah, what is the best way to contact you?
Platinum literally through your comment on this amazing kargoz video have I found yet another diamond in the rough channel that is yours! So thank you to you both... subbed :)
his content is amazing !!!
Omg, Platnium! Love the vids my dude! Some of the funniest and informative shit ive seen.
LOVE THIS GUIDE. So in depth. Kargoz is making amazing videos
I like watching every class guide, even tho I’ll only be leveling one.
I know! Same! I almost wish BC wouldn’t come out for another year to give me time to really max out another classic class!
My favorite class ever, in any expansion
Thanks for the great work on video !
I really appreciate that you go out of your way to get actual paladins' perspectives.
Excited for the priest guide! :D
THIIIIIIIS!!
On Nostalrius i used a hybrid holy/prot build. It allowed me to heal tank and DPS in dungeons and i could level with little to no downtime because Divine Favor and Consecration. Overall a pretty good class!
Sounds cool. I want to roll a similar spec in Classic.
How did you spec your talents and what not? I was thinking of doing the same as I was going over the talents. Do you still start off levelling as ret and respec? or just start off down prot or holy tree?
Post your build I’d love to do that
You are the only youtuber that explains seals Indepth I swear
Thanks for the upload .Hope the next one is the Druid Guide .:))
Great 40 mins of pure content to listen while playing bfa before classic launch :D
kargoz reppin all the pallys out there, super chill dude without you i might not have even considered going aoe build. truly an inspiration
I need a comprehensive druid leveling guide in my life!
Great guide! Something else to add about paladins is that most of there cons for pvp (even pve to a degree) can be greatly reduced with engineering. On Northdale, and even back on Elysium, I was able to go toe-to-toe with frost mages and hunters with my dwarf pally thanks to that profession. Even later in the game, it only takes a few paladins to bubble -> goblin sapper charge and you can wipe out an entire horde raid!
So what is best for paladin gnome or goblin engineering.
I started playing on a classic realm because of you Kargoz, thanks for killing my free time
As a pally player since vanilla I wish there had been a guide done this well when I was still playing. I hope the classic game coming back affords you the opportunity to make even more classic content!
Holy tree! Never thought that paladin was so confusing class to play! With all his seals and etc. Man, good job!
Two weeks ago I watched this video and I didn't understand anything about the skills chain, but I've played it for 2 weeks now and i understand everything. I'm about to be level 32 so I came back here and watched it all over again.
I lvled 2 paladins to 60. Did it just for right click and afk lvling journey. Playing for 5 sec each minute feels very rewarding to me.
RECK BOMB NO LONGER WORKS WITH SIT SPAM. I just found out the hard way. Had to come back to let others know. Goodluck.
Love all the videos. Any chance you can update this/make a new guide knowing that /sit reck-bombing won't be possible? Curious to see what your take is on the best solo spec without that option.
Seeing the ppt reminds me like takeing a lecture back on high school or some topics on collegue, I found as leveling a holy pally that divine favor helps a lot to speed the questing expirience. Also holy shock with divine favor helps to pull mobs as if its needed to tank a little like a form to recover some aggro back if you lose it from a mob.
I only ever play Warrior but I still watch all your guides, really like em' keep it up dude.
wow you made this just in time, I just made a paladin on lighthope
Thank you! This is an incredible guide, and will make life so much easier. It's funny seeing how, back in the day, very few people had ANY idea that these mechanics/strategies even existed. Can't wait for Classic to launch
Great guide as usual. Keep up the good work, man!
I'm not going to play paladin but I just knew that the quality of this video would be so high that I couldn't pass up watching it. Love your work, keep it up!
Wow. These are amazing man. Thank you so much for all of your hard work!
Love seeing your content back online again Kargoz! Missed your shit. Keep it up and don’t let haters get the to you!
Wow that was quick with the Paladin Guide! :D
Am planning on going pally in classic so this'll be extremely helpful, will definitely have the talent and weapon progression open on the side. Really good quality guide!
>Vulnerable in world PvP
Oh my Goooooooooooood did I feel that struggle. Hunters with half a brain were basically unkillable for me when I played on Nostalrius.
Also this video resparked my love of paladins. I had intended to go priest first whenever Classic comes out, but now I think I'll go back to the good ol' paladin. There wasn't much of a better feeling than grouping up with some random folks to do various kill quests together, one person suggesting we try an elite area (like the Redridge castle for example), others in the group being unsure since we're all DPS, and then, WHAM, DISH OUT THOSE HOLY LIGHTS LIKE A PRO AND KEEP THE PARTY ALIVE right after having been bashing in skulls like a Ret pally does.
Cannot rekindle a flame that never stopped burning. PALADIN!!
You must've never made it past lvl 30
Cept I did?
feels good
@@Kottery then you were very bad. Paladins reck hunters.
Hey! Love your videos! ST reckoning is actually better if you use the stacks right away -- If you can time your sits between your and the mobs swing timers you'll be doing more dps because you don't miss out on your regular auto attacks. This applies for single target, and it's a bit more complicated to perform.
Keep up the good work! :)
Kargoz I love you. I’ve been waiting for this guide for a LOOOOOONG time
best pally guide ive seen, hands down. Thanks a bunch i feel so prepared for classic in 2 weeks!
Kargoz, I fall in love with tanking style in vanilla since I started my warrior on Nostalrius. I wanted so badly to tank and aoe grind as pally, your guide is just PERFECT ! Thank you for all the big work you put into these videos.
So you're saying the Reckoning build works for you?
This is nuts. I played paladin in vanilla, and had pretty much settled on warrior for Classic, but now I'm really feeling paladin again because of this video. Interesting info. Thanks.
Can't wait to start leveling a Paladin on Classic!
Probably the most concise and comprehensive guide I’ve ever seen. Great work 👍🏻
Am i the only one who watches all the Kargoz guides even if i've already chosen my class?
no. you should learn about the other classes especially if u pvp.
Mage man....i just cannot play another class:D
Simple...because is the class i love the most and feel more comfortable with. For race i'm torn between going full min/max with Gnome or stick with Human....hard choice :D
Gu An human has op racials tho
Not for Mage man
I don't usually write a comment, but man these guides are detailed and awesome. Keep up the good work. Every one of them builds excitement while waiting for classic. Could you by any means make a series of leveling route/quest guide?!
Wait till you get Lawbringer set and heal and tank the dungeon group at the same time. Edward the Odd yo.
yeah or wait until u can use that full lawbringer set to faceroll loatheb ;)
The heal isn't often enough and it doesn't heal for enough. Also the set is good for healing, but poor for everything else.
I’m going to roll on human paladin and go protection, so excited! Thanks for the guide very detailed and helpful.
Contrary to what many say Reckoning talent work just as the tooltip says in classic: it gives you extra swings when you take critical hits. It's a very good talent / build and that's what I use for HC.
You don't want to use a /sit macro anyway, taking extra damage is just going to increase your downtime.
Also Reckoning does stacks but this is irrelevant for PvE.
Thank you for this… I don’t know what to believe reading these comments. How’s it going for you? I really want to spec prot.
@@braaapdaps6814 like he said it works as intended and is still a great talent, only issue with prot in vanilla is no taunt so when you dungeon as prot you need your group to let you get a couple tics of conc off before they open up.
really just comes down to you understanding how the spec works and having a group that understands that they need to wait before going crazy.
so this is still good as a tank/dps aoe spec to level with, just dont expect to reck bomb?
Excellent channel and the best Wow streamer IMO. I started playing wow a month before Burning Crusade.. i played up until MoP.... I would come back every time a expansion dropped but never stayed.. the game felt so different.. Classic is fucking awesome. these vids are very helpful as a Paladin
At 7:00... you said 'it' like 7 times LOL idk if that was a rendering problem or not but it was funny. xD
Love the guides man :)
it was 5 times, i slowed down to x0.25 speed and counted
Hahaha its like morty stuttering
I keep gravitating towards wanting to play your latest classic guide class come classic 😂 great guides bro
Per esfand reckoning does not stack and does in fact hit when it procs and resets your swing timer. The stacks only worked on pservers and not on classic.
This is almost correct. While the sit macro no longer working to proc reckoning stacks, if you spam "X" to sit /stand you will sometimes get a good enough rhythm to get reckoning stacks. It is however extremely unreliable.
Thanks for the helpful tips. I am having fun playing as a Paladin and this video helps me understand how it works.
Need to see the rogue guide, sick content
Damn man, you put so much effort in these guides! I really love it :D
Thanks for your commitment and your passion! Have a nice one.
These videos are making me happy.
Well put together guide. Very informational and definitely shows there was a lot of effort put into it. Great job!
Sit reckoning isn't supposed to work on beta is the prot build still good for leveling?
It'll still be viable but I dont know if itll be faster than straight ret anymore
I love these guides, Soo in depth and literally everything you need to know about the class!
Druid and shaman. Both of those classes have very intricate leveling theorycrafting
Loving your videos dude. They seem very considered and professional. Keep up the good work!
Hey man, it's now confirmed that /sit macros do not work in Classic. I know a few other levelling guides of yours relied on them for some specs, are you planning to release some updated guide content?
I wish I had read this before watching a 40min guide :D
Not true, it was confirmed yesterday on stream with esfandtv. It just has to be done at the right time now because of batching.
@@nicholaspage7397 Being critically struck while using /sit to sit does not cause abilities like Enrage, Blood Craze, and Reckoning to activate. - us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-classic-not-a-bug-list/175887/1. But what youre saying is that you just need to sit, like, a few milliseconds before getting hit?
@@nicholaspage7397 Fairly certain the only way it works, if it DOES work, is if you get hit by an ability rather then a simple auto attack.
@@nicholaspage7397 its not viable, also has nothing to do with batching
Awesome guide mate! You made my choice to IF i wanted to play it even. And made my choice in what i am goong to play. Well done subbed and liked. Looking foreward to more vids.
Going to be honest, I would never, ever, play a Paladin; but god I love anyone that does. Thanks, Bubble Boys. Raids wouldn’t be the same without you.
After playing the Classic demo and playing in a ton of group I discovered something. I enjoy healing. Never had any interest before but I guess I judged a book by it's cover. Also turns out that paladin is my favorite healing class... So uhh... yeah see you in classic. Bubble Boy out.
@@goawaygosh Paladin has the most mana efficient single target heal (flash of light), healing the main tank in raids, takes probably 2 weeks until they run out of mana. Also the blessings and auras are nice for the party. Only stupid thing is that blessings last only 5 minutes (except greater blessings 15min). Don't really understand why they can't last 30 mins like most buffs in the game.
damn normally when so many videos r uploaded u notice a lack in quality but every single one of these guides r quality im not even gonna play half of these classes but worth a watch anyway lmao
Hey Kargoz, I think you might need to add something in about the Reckoninb Bomb, since in the release version of classic (why people most likely be watching this) they actually fixed the reconning bomb (because of the world boss first kill thing).
So there is no actuall bomb anymore but rather instantly jumps to your next autoattack. agains casters, this is actually very often a down side and therefore it's not really recommended to bother about reckoning.
Yes, is there an updated video that contains correct reckoning info? I feel like this video says "Pallys are pretty bad until they get reckoning." If the reckoning info is incorrect, where does that leave Pallys?
Another well put together guide. If you need any shaman inputs, I recommend reaching to some of the shaman community. It’s one of those classes that a lot of people have been mislead on the best ways to level.
Ayyyy the video came! I just commented about paladins yesterday. Good stuff!
Amazing video as always! Thank you for doing these guides. Much love, Kargoz
we need an update about the /sit maccro pls ! =)
you cant do it so pala levelling is back to being really slow
This is bloody awesome, I love me a good in-depth guide to mechanics and builds.
The only thing that would really enhance this would be to show the cycles in actual gameplay a few times.
Excellent guide, well worth the 40m for anyone considering lvling a paladin once classic comes out. I lvld ret/holy, ignored repentance in favor of divine favor. Saved my butt more then once. Gonna do the reck/ret build when classic drops, looks like fun and cant wait.
Thank you these guides are very helpful but now I'm stuck between rolling a pally with easy leveling, free mount, and best tier 2 & 3 sets in the game... Orrrr a warrior with the most difficult leveling process, high gear dependence BUT with pve tank and pvp dps viability which is huge for me. Damn...
Late comment but this was a joy, everything neatly packaged and explained. You also pointed to the deeper levels of efficiency and time management i now see the way more broadly :D....Thanks man!
Priest guide next?
The /sit macro looks so annoying, cba doing that for 6-7days played^^
You won't have to since it's a private server quirk that doesn't work in the retail client. You don't get automatically critted when sitting down since that was patched away during vanilla.
Your work is amazing, i probably won't play classic but i will watch your vids
Any chance of an update on Paladins now that /sit is not a thing?
do same build just dont rely on reckoning being constant its still great talent
sepfirem the only reason reckoning was a thing was because of the macro, without the macro, you literally cannot do dmg so now going full Ret is the only option now
Louis Reacts is there any damn reason to level in holy spec since I just totally hate to play dd?
Bro, this guide is awesome! Gets me so hype.
Vulnerable in world PvP? How about bubble+hearthstone? It does work in vanilla, right?
Vasiliy Pekhota Yes, but it only works woth one of the last bubbles. The early bubbles only stay for 4 seconds, that's not enought for a HS.
also hearth is a one hour cooldown so if you optimise HS you're fucked.
Basically just /dance and run back from the graveyard and try and spawn behind a tree... Ohhh my old vanilla noob days and the fear rogues gave me..
@@Scrumpchwrap hello, im one of the rogues probably
Shawn McLovin lmao if its an equal lvl rogue as a paladin you can literally 3 shot them with a good 2hander..
Reckoning still works, just make two separate macro to stand and sit. Spam those two buttons on a mob and you will charge up ur reckoning shots
Reckoning won't work the same in WoW Classic. They fixed it so when you use /sit to get crit it won't count up a reckoning stack
Still works in pvp, but not in pve.
Is this build viable without that?
As a seasoned Hunter I strongly disagreed with a whole lot of points you made there. But, the sheer effort and information on this Paladin one really balanced the scale as I thoroughly appreciated it and can honestly say I learned quite a lot from its details as I lean towards making a Paladin come Classic. Thank you very much Kargoz!
Yes the paladins guide ! Thx sir
Hey man love your videos. Just to clarify, are you sure the /sit thing will work in classic? I am pretty sure the procs on sit crits were disabled in vanilla specifically to prevent it from being able to be used like this. I think it was the next patch after the hotfix where Blizzard added the stack limit of 4 due to the Kazzak one shot. At the same time Warriors were hit so they couldn't use it to proc Blood Craze and Enrage. Please correct if I am wrong, I am going off memory here, but I am so sure the /sit crit procs weren't a thing by 1.12, you got crit but your defensive talents didn't proc. When I first saw this on Nost it leapt out at me as being incorrect.
I believe that mobs will automaticly crit you when you sit, but it will not proc any talents.
@@henrikh3089 Yeah that was my recollection too.
Needs a new version, the Reckoning gimmick doesn't work on Classic.
Honestly wish it did though , we need all the help we can get to do actual damage :(
Thanks for letting me know!
I’m one of those players who will take my time and enjoy the game That being said, I really do enjoy all your guides. They are crazy in-depth and detailed! This one made me change my whole perspective on Vanilla Paladins, I always thought they were one of the most boring classes to level because of all the auto-attacking but after watching your guide, I have an urge to level one! 👌👌
I’m incredibly stoked for Classic WoW. I’ll be honest, most of my early WoW knowledge/memories comes from BC.. but I have nostalgic leveling experiences reaching far back into Vanilla.
It sucks that prot paladins weren’t sought after as raid ranks. I’m curious if the amount of information we have these days to maximize a class could offset this a bit?? Thoughts?
I’ve played a bit of private server in the past but for Mac it’s a pain in the ass and I’m not in love with the idea of the server shutting down and losing all the work you put into something. Stoked for classic and would love to be a part of whatever team you forge for Classic!
Prot pallies were extremely limited in vanilla, both due to their spell kit as well as the gear available. Very little gear would give +intellect and +defense, so paladins would either be A) Uncrushable from bosses, but have a very small mana pool meaning low threat generation, or B) Have great threat generation with a large mana pool, but have low defense and get crit/crushed by bosses, making them very squishy.
It's similar for druid tanks as well, though not nearly as impactful due to armor carrying them further without +defense gear. Paladins also don't have a taunt, so there's that.
Drathamus these are all great points. Thanks for your contribution! I didn’t realize prot didn’t have a taunt yet back then.. that would be a welcomed change. Lol
Again, most of my prot experience comes from BC. Mana was still an issue but good use of wisdom seals/judgement was a decent counter
You’re awesome! Core, important details explained etc. Subbed.
is reckoning spec still good even though Blizz killed the /sit bug?
hell make the next one an hour long and i'd still love every second of it lol
Finally... my class
As an old old paladin who loved reckoning and tested it to all of its limits in vanilla, engaging in auto attack will attempt to use reckoning, and if you are out of range, (or not facing the target) the reckoning stack gets wasted. Also, the sit thing didn't work either. I haven't played in vanilla beta, but this is 100% how reckoning worked back then.
Reckoning was a pretty uncommon thing to see, because it was actually fairly hard to use because you had to be careful not to have auto attack engaged at all. That's why it was so unique, because so few paladins really ran around with it.
That being said, one of my favorite moments was solo killing two horde rogues who tried to gank me in un goro when I was level 56 and they were 58 and 60, because reckoning made all those fast crits with their daggers was met with instant 2H damage in the face.
Also, I would save my HoJ for the unleash of the reck bomb so there would be no parries or dodges. especially when pvping against rogues/hunters.