I think this is one of the first times that I believe that someone is a virgin because "they're waiting for the one". Bruh if you wanted to you could have sex whenever you want lol.
People put so much pressure on virginity, especially as a teenager and young adult. It's a not a competition to loose it faster, it's not a right of passage, and it doest make you more of a woman/man. Go at your own pace and do what is right to you.
Personally I'm muslim and that doesn't exist between us xD So when I heard of those sort of competitions I was surprised, but like really ... I thought 'why would that be cool ?', I always thought having sex after marriage was the thing to do (still thinking that) at least I'll have no or 'less big' regrets.
@@lara.lauter In my eye I'd see someone who didn't have sex until marriage worthier than one that did it, but still what you think/believe depends on culture.
• amber • I get shamed for having sex with someone I deeply trust at age 15. We’d been dating a year and are still dating 3 years after sex. I don’t know why people have to be so touchy about this stuff and why my parents can’t see that I am with someone that I love and should be able to have safe sex without them making me feel so shitty for it.
It's not so much about what people do privately, but about how we handle the topic. That's why this was made, to create a discussion about the stigma we have about virginity, premarital sex, abstinence, safe sex, etc. No one is talking possitions here, they're talking the impact of their choices in their life and in the society around them
blue 2122 Lol, people have ALWAYS being having sex before marriage....humans are very sexual creatures, after all. The fact is, good sex-education lowers the prevalence of teen births and std's.....so why aren't you advocating for that? As if I didn't know.....😂😂😂 Hmm, I’m sure I read somewhere that teen pregnancies and std’s are higher in the ‘abstinence’ loving Bible Belt. Will have to do some research....
Annaliese Jameson lmaoo i study in an all girls private school and it's not that bad. i would love to see people discuss their experiences with each type of schools though
Be confident. The right person is written in your story. I know you said you aren’t religious but you may have heard the saying “He May not come when you want Him but He’s right on time.” God sends blessings only when we’re ready and prepared for this and because of the way God views sex as well as the way He loves you, he wants you to be prepared for that. He wants you to be whole.
@@aycaiix people who complain about 'appearance discrimination' tend to look for people way out of their league. I thought it was a biological fact that humans were most likely to mate with someone similar to them on the 'rating' (not sure how to phrase that) - it's also not a real thing. The amount of 3/10 guys or girls I've seen complain about not getting with 9/10 guys or girls really irritate me. If they see past appearances and fall in love with your personality or vice versa then that's amazing, but it's not entitlement that brings them to you but being a great person. If they aren't attracted to you, then that just sucks. I think people also forget that '2/10s' are also '8/10s' to the right person.
I HATE the term purity as it relates to abstinence. You're not pure even if you are a virgin. Innocent maybe. But no one is pure. We're all imperfect sinners.
All purity means is being genuine with your thoughts words and actions. Purity is not the same as being holy. So it does apply to abstinence. Abstinence is staying grounded for what you want.(you can even abstain from coffee). Abstinence is only a genuine desire want to wait for whoever you think is worth giving yourself self to. Religious or not.
At the end of the day, do whatever you feel comfortable doing or not doing.. If you're curious, give it a go but be safe. If you wanna wait, then wait.
Completely agree! As a Christian, one option to help Christians be less judgmental is to tell them they are being "arrogant." We believe it's ok to judge sin, but many get confused and start being arrogant about their beliefs.
@@Nathan987651 While it's true what you say, I don't think Christians are more judgemental. It just sticks out more because Christians are held to higher standards. Atheists fail their own standards too though
@@Nathan987651 Yeah and just to echo what you said about judging sin. People who deny that must have never read Matthew 23 haha. We can judge, with the condition that it's not hypocritical.
It isn't, also, to each their own. It happens in a dayly basis all around the world. You can't pretend it doesn't. It may be a good or bad experience but it happens.
Luke Green I mean that’s a freshmen and a senior in hs. Not really a huge difference, and it’s not illegal everywhere either. Plus it clearly happened a long time ago given that girl was like 40.
@vintage 725 I definitely wouldn't equate them with pedophiles, but I do think they are often being predatory. That's primarily based on personal experience though, so to each his own.
Luke Green in some states it is, and in some it’s not. Like for example, Minnesota (my state) if they are the age from 13-15, they can have sexual relations with someone 4 years older than them. (So 14, she could legally be with someone 18) and 16 is a age of consent.
Everyone in this video was open and respectful and even insightful. Shoutout to Brandon for admitting he's questioned his choices and lived in the gray areas. Keep being you.
Or teachers and parents. As in an aspect of the parents getting mad at the teacher for lack of “not teaching” when reality we should be helping our kids, giving them that one on one time at home.
Abstinence is a personal choice, which isn't the place of schools to teach. But schools should teach consent and empower people to say no if they want to. And safer sex knowledge is just facts. That should definitely be taught.
Being 100% factual the only way to 100% not have a chance for a baby or std is abstinence. You can never be sure that a child wont pop up or get an std.
@@orangehiccup5726 Actually, you can be 100% certain that you won't have a baby by taking necessary precautions with contraceptives. Namely, birth control and condoms COMBINED. You're fooling yourself if you think kids are gonna listen to your ramble about abstinence and gonna stick with it all the way till marriage. Ridiculous.
I think abstinence should be taught in school because like you said it is a choice like having sex is! Both should be I introduced with the pros and cons, so people don't feel forced into needing to partake in sex before they are ready! The other side of the sex talk that is often neglected!
Jeon Jungkook The thing is that topic isn't an opinion. Climate change is a fact backed by every scientists in the world. Hell even China agrees it's real
suggestion: African immigrants and African Americans meet eye to eye? There has always been this tension in the black community where it seems that African-Americans distance themselves from their African heritage or that African immigrants see themselves as better than African-Americans. I don't know if this makes sense but having this has a middle ground episode could be a cool opportunity to delve into that assumption/assumed stereotypes and somewhat unite the black community in America!
Look at the movie documentary "the lost boys of sudan." It takes understanding the richness of African culture to realize the answer to this statement. African Americans (not immigrant dual citizenship or beyond first generation) are americanized and not the same. Though you see resemblances of black culture and traditional African legacy in dances, music / rap, and drumming, the two are different cultural streams.
I don’t know if the cultural tension was always that obvious though? I feel like that point has been exaggerated much more in recent years, than it has previously.
I think theres also a tension from stronger paternal bonds in Africa and the decreasing paternal bonds in the states. Lord knows we need stronger black fathers
Interesting! I wanted to offer up my take on abstinence- I'm 26, a virgin by choice. No religious reasons whatsoever. I just sincerely want to save it for marriage; it feels like the best choice for my physical, mental, emotional and spiritual health. That being said, I respect EVERYONE'S decision to do what's best for them! Never give in to social norms and always, rather - do what feels right in your heart.
I totally agree! Self discovery is powerful imo :) And you're right - although it's "normal" to be having sex ect, we're just choosing to take MORE ownership as to when we want it to happen and with whom, rather than conform to social constructs. I wouldn't "pressure" anyone to do as I do because I think it takes a lot of honesty (within yourself) to get to such a decision (being it without religious reasons)...that being said, I can totally see how sex is a healthy part of life. Never be ashamed for being you and making the choices that are whole with your spirit :)
Oh haha, yes I understood you meant masturbation, hence why I said "self discovery". I don't know if you're younger than I because if you are than maybe it makes more sense to feel ashamed of masturbation...I think it's natural and essential in life; at least in order for you to figure out your own body and see what gives you pleasure (at the end of the day, we have ourselves alone). I personally would be honest in admitting I do it but then again it depends to whom haha! You don't have to share that intimate part of yourself with anyone you don't feel comfortable with or even mention it if you're uncomfortable, of course. Hope that helps?
Agree completely! Nice to know others have the same opinion. I don't feel like I'm repressing myself by not having sex, like some of my friends have told me. And my decision isn't based on my religion either. It's just what I feel in my heart.
Haha yes, I had a feeling you might be younger - I feel you! It is super embarrassing to talk about when you're younger, for sure. No doubt about it. So yes, I do "do it" lol ! It's natural though - don't feel bad about it if you yourself also do it or enjoy engaging it it, with yourself (as long as you're being safe and respectful of your body ect, I would say). So yeah, I'm too told to deny it or act like it's gross haha :) Thanks for admiring my courage! To answer your question, I think it's easier to admit it maybe so in my age because it's like...I'm a grown Lady and it would seem odd (as a virgin) to deny my natural instincts and sexual "needs" that already are not exactly fulfilled by someone else...so I think it's natural to assume I "fulfill" those needs, for myself. I think people would assume that to, about us. So maybe that makes it somewhat less awkward? hopefully so and hope I'm making sense. I think the MOST embarrassed I had been (admitting to "doing it") was while I was asked in Therapy by a MALE Therapist that I'm soo attracted to - he literally flat out asked if I masturbate because he couldn't understand why I've never had a bf or been in a relationship (at my age) and so he of course had to go back in time and ask if I was ever attracted to men (which I am) and then got into this awkward space asking if I even fantasize sexually about men or even engage in masturbation...you BEST BELIEVE I was red as hell lmao !!! I could barely admit to it but I did, yes. Awkward as hell! haha. So yeah, even people like me get embarrassed for sure ;P
Hey there, Nic! I'm glad you agree with my comment. It's lovely to hear others such as yourself who totally understand where I'm coming from. You said it best - "I don't feel like I'm repressing myself by not having sex" - totally!
@@waxtopia Wrong, that's a 4 year difference and 4 years is a long ass time. There's also the fact that they are in two different age groups. He's legally an adult and 14 years is too young to even bring up Romeo and Juileit laws.
I understand people making the choice to wait for their timing and I'm here for it. Do it when you and your parther are ready. But I disagree with this concept of purity because a person is a vrigin. I think this brings judgement and shame that a non vrigin is "dirty" or "used".
@@thesismoon8125 Human contact make people used? Do you not hug or shake hands? Maybe some virgins have had more human contact than non virgins, thus they are more "used". There is no logical moral distinction
Sex shouldn’t be generally defined ... wtf? It’s a personal choice, you make your own choices, especially on the sexual level. As long as it’s mutually consensual and safe, there shouldn’t be an issue....
not really, it affects entire human race like 1 person can do, sex befr marriage is called codependency and it makes you narcissistic, you live with the shame of lack of strenght and quality of marriage is low with high chances of divorce and sociopathic children
@@ArianTheDon88 This is why there's birth control pills and condoms and other way of protecting yourself. The entire humanity? That's a bit big and who does it make you selfish? We are all selfish in some degree, you work for gaining money. You could say it's selfish since you keep it for your self and don't give it to others people. We're individual, it's normal to think for your self. But it doesn't mean that you harm other if you're responsable.
@@feliciamartin9771 you harm yourself because you go against the sanctity of marriage, you build on yourself in solitude while being on a progressive and evolutionary path, only when that is achieved you can have a connection with someone which is infinite, that's when you get married and interdependently work with your spouse till death do you part or Yeshua returns. You were always too exposed to the sinful ways of the west. Lust is destructive, we might not be Yeshua(Jesus) but he clearly told us how it is and it makes sense, be weak and you'll feel the consequences in this life or on the day of judgement, ultimately the universe or God whatever is larger than us and created us beyond our will knows it will end with him joining us.
@@feliciamartin9771 I'm 26 and male and dodged it at least 10x even tho I'm not as holy as I wish I was, the things I did do.. I live with the shame because denial aint my thing but I'm not going to double down on it anymore. Do I sound socially awkward? Do I sound unhappy? Keep prayer up and meditation and ask for forgiveness everyday and attract someone as real as possible so I never get divorced and my kids future or my legacy is secure, pave the path for heaven on earth. 1 Human can change everything, I think history has proven that. It's about self-respect. Sex is temporary it means nothing if you've felt what heaven feels like. Now imagine the relationship I'll have. Pretty fun huh how God rewards us for self restraint and devotion to him.
Heng Hui Mei I agree about the “losing” virginity but I think the way I’ve always interpreted “falling in love” is less the scary side of falling and more... skydiving. A little scary, especially at first, but exhilarating. It’s risky but it’s a rush, and it’s beautiful when you stop to appreciate how marvelous it can be.
Heng Hui Mei Heng Hui Mei "falling" refers to the more or less involuntarily nature of developing attachment, as there's so much biology and chemistry beyond our control that's involved . Also to explain "losing" virginity: most cultures recognize intimacy of any kind is only worth something when it's the the context of some kind of life-long commitment(marriage).we all intuitively know this, it sucks to be vulnerable relationally with a human being only to have them pull out on us as soon as we become inconvenient. The consequences for this now are only social these days, but back then, especially for women who relied on men for their provision, this was often deadly.
Heng Hui Mei I agree with virginity, you don’t lose something, but you rather gain experience and knowledge. Thinking virginity is worthy (or shameful) is quite harmful.
Free Hugs - maybe to* you* but the romantics of the world, myself included, would strongly disagree. love is sort of a dreadful thing, in the sense that’s it’s terribly frightening. But it’s so warm, it’s just (from my perspective) undeniably beautiful.
That is interesting. My grandma never phrased it like that, it was always "giving away" your virginity. Virginity is supposed to be considered a gift to your partner, not a burden.
They should’ve brought in someone who was practising abstinence out of choice and not just coz god told you to do so, would’ve given a different perspective.
RIGHT?! Thank you!! I mean come on, it’s not all about religion and social norms now. Whether you choose to screw or you not to screw. There are more “definable” circumstances to it, so why not bring somebody who goes by some other rhyme/reason.
Jubilee videos AND their comment sections are literally the most civilized and enlightening part of TH-cam. I spend more time reading the comments and enjoying the conversations of the viewers than the original video. They in itself, are healthy and productive conversations regarding the topic.
@@angelica1577 4 year difference would've been reasonable if they were adults but here both are biologically different states of psychological development. An 18 year old has most likely completed his puberty and the 14 year old is still on the way. The difference between intellectual capacity between 14 and 18 would be a lot more than 22 and 26
Having sex before marriage is all good. Waiting for marriage to have sex is all good. As long as it’s two consenting adults, obviously not related, it’s all good to do whatever. You do you. However, I do think that safe sex should be taught in schools with abstinence as an option. It should be put in along with everything else. Also, public schools should include getting tested as part of the curriculum and hopefully include places where someone can, just in case.
jequestrian Of course, but that’s what some people want. No committed relationships, just sex. Which is all good in my book, as long as both parties consent and are safe.
I agree, in the high school I went to we weren't even allowed to ask questions about safe sex, it's absolutely ridiculous. I lived in a fairly religious state and religion totally influenced what I learned about sex.
Addie H Telling them that they can get STDs and should get tested after any form of sex to make sure they didn’t catch anything is bad in a high school curriculum? They need to know these things. They need to know that just using a condom isn’t going to protect them from everything and there’s multiple ways to catch it. They should be aware that it’s a good thing to ensure your health after every partner.
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@@mythnyx3791 So you are saying fornication is moral?
Angelica Pasek me! I’m 20. To be honest its not about “purity” i dont believe in that. Idk i just wanna wait and im not really that intrigued about sex. Plus for me i dont really wanna have sex with someone i dont love and I’ve never really loved someone. Dating at such a young age for me is a waste of time because i have too much shits on my plate right now
Angelica Pasek I feel like a good non-religious argument is that I don’t wanna share the risk of potential STDs with someone by going in raw, even though that’s gonna be significantly more pleasurable than using a condom. Also, you don’t have to worry about catching feelings with someone whom you already love from having sex, like some people do with FWBs or even sometimes a ONS. Additionally, having sex with someone who has a clean slate entirely eliminates potential jealousy or confidence issues that stem from how well the person’s ex(es) had sex with them. Sex is about as natural as food and even more gratifying, which is why it should be handled with caution regarding who you have sex with.
You can have premarital sex if you have found someone who really loves you. Just don't do it too much, focus on strengthening your emotional bonding, be more empathic toward your partner and everything will be fine
@@s.d.966 If he or she wants to wait, they can wait. I am 20 years old still waiting for marriage because IT IS the right thing to do. More so the BETTER thing to do. No matter what you think, there will always be some kind of spiritual attachment. So if you're not with your spouse, there will most likely be some soul-tie there. Those are some demons you don't want to deal with.
Rendaboyd for you to say that one is more right than the other is disgusting and wrong. Everyone has the choice to either wait or not, and neither is right or wrong.
Ellen Jensen Yes that is true, everyone does have to choice, but to say it is not wrong to have premarital sex is in fact... wrong. There’s a word for it too, it’s called fornication. The Lord said this is a sin against the body. He commands Christians to flee fornication as a sin against self and God, for the believer's body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (see I Corinthians 6:18-19). It is very important to understand that neither fornicators nor adulterers will enter the kingdom of heaven (see I Corinthians 6:9-10). In today's world, the term fornication is rarely used and immorality between unmarried people is commonly accepted as a lifestyle. But immorality, however commonplace, is a sin that will keep millions of people out of heaven, unless they repent.
I want to save myself for the wedding night and my non-Christian friends think I'm crazy. They say it will be embarrassing for my future husband and that no one will want to be in a relationship with me if they need to wait to make love. But I am proud of my faith and my decision to wait. I'm a virgin and proud of it.
i strongly disagree with the virgin guy on the education thing. forcing one religion into schools is not okay. what he was talking about is something that should be taught about at his church, not in schools. school is for educating youth with facts and real information, not for forcing your own opinions and ideals on them.
It's interesting that the only person who hadn't been shamed about having sex was a guy who isn't a virgin. Society still places these expectations on women that having too much sex is bad, and it tells men that they aren't masculine if they are still a virgin at an older age. I think it's good that we can talk about sex more openly in our society today, but we clearly still have a long way to go to break these stereotypes.
It’s weird because marriage is literally just a legally recognized committed relationship. So I agree with the girl who made the comment about why is it not a sin after your married but it is before...?
actually in the bible the act of sex was marriage, adam knew his wife meaning sex and that was the marriage. There was never a ceremony. So i think God wants us to have only one partner
Wow I really nod my head a lot 😩 but this was such a great experience, and I loved listening to everyone. Thankful for Jubilee for opening conversations like this 🙏🏻
Jubilee, I’ve learned so much from your volunteers on how to be a constructive, understanding, and productive participant of an argument. You have exceptionally mature and confident people voicing their opinions with no fear of judgement which is truly special. Well done! Edit: Amazed how far my comment has reached. Thanks for all of the love, Jubilee and friends!
Hey Liz! This is Ien who works at Jubilee. Thanks so much for the kind words :) Onward and upward with respectful, mature dialogue - even between people who might disagree deeply! Spreadin' the love, yo
@Liz couldn't agree more. Just bl**dy love this set-up and channel. Doing amazing things for modelling tolerance & respect in a pretty polarised, quick-to-judge, even hate-filled modern world. So much admiration every time I watch one of these videos for the maturity and open-mindedness of the volunteers with polar opposite viewpoints.
Dots Grey hey! I totally see your point, and thank you for bringing that to my attention. I can’t say that I am accepting or supporting of his statement, but I’m more of a proponent of conversation and hearing someone out regardless if understanding is necessarily met. Hopefully, you can see that now from my original comment.
I consider myself an attractive guy, I’m 18 and still a virgin. I’ve had many opportunities but idk, something in me is telling me to be patient... it’s corny, butttttt that’s how I feel🤷🏽♂️
well, that's your choice and its the one right for you! i am an atheist too, but i personally do not want to wait until marriage. idek if i want to get married lol
To be honest, I think the debate in America surrounding public vs. private has much more do to with how much funding private schools draw away from public schools and how many more opportunities students have as a result.
Georgia O`Connor Public Vs Private School is definitely a must they have to do it! I’d love to hear the opinions of not just the volunteers who will be in the video but the many viewers here on TH-cam.
You can’t debate this topic because it’s just a matter of religious beliefs and personal opinions, so there’s not really any points that you can consider valid or invalid
@@MissingYouser both premarital and after marriage sex can create babies so i don't see how that matters. also there is prottection which should always be used *if* you don't want to create a baby
When abstinence is forced, it leads to people getting married quicker and subsequently leads to more abusive relationships. I have witnessed it as I am from catholic Ireland. Everyone got married young, but from what I can tell, the husband would beat the woman a lot. (Great grandparents). When women are coerced into marrying, that leads to a loss in women’s rights as they usually have kids shortly after and then have to stay at home minding kids. However if a person chooses to abstain that’s much better and won’t lead to these problems.
Here's some things to consider, In abstinence-teaching districts: -Abortion rates go up -Rape rates go up -Teen pregnancy rates go up So... do with that what you will.
I feel like the most you try to force something onto someone (here abstinence), the more they will try to go against you and push the boundaries. If it’s not your choice, you will never commit to it 🤷🏾♀️ just my opinion
Would love to see the actual stats on these claims. Teaching a generation of students to pursue self-control is never a bad thing. Sadly, though, parents, esp fathers, should be teaching their children this, but too many are absent or unwilling.
That’s because they’re not properly educated on sex in those communities, which is a huge problem considering most will not want to be abstinent. Safe sex and most importantly consent need to be taught alongside the importance of abstinence to prevent these issues occurring as much.
I can already see how that video would go. *Body mod people* : Even though we believe in Body Mods. It's still important that you try your best to love your own body and love what you were given. But sometimes you might lean towards wanting a quick fix. *All Naturals* : OMG IT'S SO AWFUL THE WAY PEOPLE PROMOTE IT AS IF IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO!, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. What a lot of All Naturals fail to realize is that people do it usually through insecurities. It's absolutely gross to shame people for wanting to boost their confidence more and just be happy with themselves more.
Biologically speaking, there are going to be emotions and memories and thoughts that go with every sexual experience. No significant physical sensation is purely physical, unless there's something wrong with your brain. Also, even if you think the sex is purely physical, there's no guarantee that your partner feels the same way. That's why a FWB relationship is so dangerous is because it may start with an understanding that it's purely physical, but there are many cases where it doesn't stay that way. Emotions often get involved when that was not the intent.
While I also 100% agree with what you said I don’t think it’s so much that sex causes an emotional reaction or connection I think it’s more that sex causes a release of serotonin and dopamine which makes us think there is an emotional reaction or connection. If you don’t know the person and it was just a one night stand or even a quick fling once the serotonin or dopamine is gone it becomes just a physical thing where as in a relationship you get those same happy chemicals from just being around them sex or not.
Megan Carrington Not gonna lie as much as I disagree with flat earthers, I wouldn’t call them mentally unstable. I have some respect for them challenging scientific theory, even when round earth has been proven over 2,000 years ago lol
Every scientist is paid off by the government though. Look up Warner Von Brauns (the head of NASA) tombstone, he even admits the world is flat on there.
I think sexual compatibility is an important thing to learn before going all in and getting married, which wasn't mentioned in the video. I've heard of many cases where people just couldn't work because one was kinky and the other wasn't. I personally would not want to wait till I'm already married to find that out.
@@SpinningSage True, but I believe there is a level of understanding that won't be reached from an outside perspective like that (meaning people talking about sex who aren't actually having sex) It can be easy to put those preferences on the back burner if they're not in the foreground. "Oh, you say you have this kink? Well okay..it can't be that bad" or "I'm sure we can make it work". Only to finally get there and realize, it really isn't that simple. I'm sure it isn't always like this, but no one wants to lose someone they love over a kink..but it happens. And it's not going to happen until they actually start having a sex life and realize they can't see eye to eye in the end.
Exactly. Sex is just another way of bonding but because it’s so stigmatized in this country, people overlook the fact that it can help you further your relationship with your partner
But if two people wait till they are married they WILL be compatible sexually. Your comment is only applicable to those who value sexual encounters before a committed relationship. If 2 people wait they have nothing to compare it to and it WILL be the best sex they have ever had 🙂. You mentioned "kinky". This is something that evolves from sexual activity and perversions which are adapted by those who practice them. Again, not likely an issue among those choosing to save themselves for marriage.
Leah Kennish then wait for a longterm committed partner. The right person is the one that doesn’t mind waiting until you are ready. And maybe even a bit later than that.
Girls of High Value not the point lol you can love someone with your whole heart but not wanna get married it’s not always about the other person if that makes sense
Love this so much, as a 16 year old female that is constantly ask why/if/when/how virginity. At times I find it frustrating, I’m still a virgin that neither absence, or premarital. I’m neither waiting or trying to lose. I’m just going with the flow if it happens it happens if not it’s ok. I just love listening to both sides.
Daisy Love i was the same way. I was a virgin till December 2 weeks before Christmas (19 and still 19) best decision ever. I had a friend that lost hers at 15 and she regrets not waiting till she was actually ready.
I lost my virginity at the age of 15 (now 24) I lost it to someone I loved, no pressure both wanted to be "one". So for me I don't regret it all. I've had sex since the. But only with my long term relationships. So 3 people for me. I dated lots of people! But only 3 got to have me. After my first I had 1 more then finally my Husband. I believe it's completely up to you! You do it when you're ready and with love. And protection lol safe sex is very important!🙏🏽 I practiced safe sex for maybe %25 of my sexual life. I just got lucky/karma. I can't have children without medical medicine. But I didn't know that till after I got married (22). So I was risking it %75 of the time. 17yrs-22yrs is a big period of time to not use protection. I don't think I could handle being a teen mom. Like I said I got lucky but the same time karma. Please practice safe sex if you do have sex! Good luck hun❤❤❤
I felt the same way at 16. All my friends were active and I wasn’t. I waited till my freshman year of college. I dated a football player 🥰 Absolutely no regrets bc I was ready. I’ll just say...it’s not like opening Pandora’s box. The power to choose when and who is powerful. Never forget that! Btw I’m 34 now 🤓
@@heatsann4456 1. Not everyone thinks marriage is important 2. Not everyone sees virginity as an important thing, I don't even use the word "virgin" to describe myself. I'm just simply someone who hasn't had sex. 3. People have regretted the complete opposite. People have waited till marriage, had sex and realised they're not sexually compatible with their partner. Regret can go both ways so it's up to the individual to decide what's best for them.
Sex doesn’t get “better with marriage” it gets better when you have an open communication with your partner. You can wait till your married but that doesn’t mean what so ever that that is gonna be a magical experience. I don’t like when people say well it’ll be so much better when I’m married. Why or who told you that?
ArcticZombie well I believe in abortion. Also that’s why we have protection like birth control and condoms. It’s just the practice of safe sex. It’s not realistic for everyone to abstain from sex. So rather teach people to not even think about having sex or it’s “dangerous” we need to really incorporate safe sex talks and contraceptives in our future generations lives. And not by any means do I think being a virgin is wrong or staying a virgin until marriage is bad or impossible. It just isn’t realist to me or many people. There is nothing wrong to wanting to share yourself with someone before your married or waiting to marriage
@Artoria Pendragon That's funny because I believe anyone who forces people who don't want children into birthing them, then throwing those children into a situation where they will not experience the love of a parent who wants them and the stability of a healthy home or into a system where they are ignored, abused, and otherwise mistreated is part of a morally corrupt society.
@@baileybabb2124 I grew up in a small southeast Texas town and they only "taught" abstinence only sex education. I was pregnant at 14 a month after losing my virginity and was married off to the father that was 22. They built a school for teen mothers to take their babies to school with them that I started going to when my son was 6 weeks old. Why they thought that was better than education beats the hell out of me. And that was 1997, the school still stands 3 blocks away from where I live now. I'm a grandma at 36 years old from the son I had at 14. He was almost 20 when he his so son. I also have a 17 year old son and 14 year old daughter. I've taken it upon myself to be open with them because still to this day, they only "teach" abstinence only. No changes at all in 22 years and it's damn shame. So I teach my own kids. The cycle ends with me. Condoms and birth control. And a lot open conversation. Something my folks didn't do. I'll be damned if my daughter will be a child bride like I was!!! Or if my son's will knock a teenage girl up. Very open line of communication in my household...without it being awkward
@@amberkelly8055 You're doing amazing work. I am only 20 now and cannot imagine having a kid, much less at 14. I am glad there are mothers like you that are willing to have open communication. It is the key to safe practices, less teen pregnancies, and awareness. I grew up in a southern town myself and they had abstinence-only education. I had one teacher that spoke about condoms and birth control even though she wasn't supposed to and I honestly think she might have stopped a few pregnancies based on some of the conversations I overheard. Keep up the good work breaking the cycle, one day it will hopefully be gone for good.
@@amberkelly8055 I can't imagine what that must've all been like. You're a badass and seem like a really good mom, even though it's been far from easy. You're doing great XXX
I'm more concerned with the negative connotations of staying abstinent, especially with people who are religious. Like you are only ""good" or "worthy" if you wait until marriage to have sex. It seems like regardless if they want to have sex or not the feeling of shame is what fuels the decision to stay abstinent more than anything else.
Not really that's for those who don't know better. Waiting for Marriage is another way of saying wait for someone that worth your time. There's more things to do in life than just have sex.....and that's if you even have the energy to do it with how tiring and hard life can be as an adult. Don't waist your time with people who aren't worth your time and will cause unneeded heart ache & stress, when you still have other things to do.
waiting can be a beautiful thing. For a man to stand with his bride on their wedding day, and for her to know that this man before her, having waited 20 something years to share his entire self with her, commits himself to her, all for her and her alone. Waiting, or re-commiting to waiting, is realizing how very precious and special his or her body is, and that this is a gift not to be given out so easy because it's so special. Imagine how difficult it is to wait, especially in the world live in today, crazy difficult! I hope that "waiting for marriage" is not a shameful topic, however I know that can be put that way, and that makes me sad. To shame someone into doing anything is the worst and very unhealthy. Waiting can be a very beautiful thing.
@Matthew Garay Fair, personal experience is not universal by any means. I disagree that virginity *itself* is a shaming thing... but I definately know that it can be used as a way of shaming others. I don't understand what you say "virginity is confirmed as not real", because how then is something real? Of course not all practice virginity, but that does not overlook that it does exist for some who choose it. Of course, a person is free to go ahead and make decisions, abosolutly. I think that's a really important part, to think and choose what is best. I think however, that virginity, although a definately difficult road to take, does have major benefits and anyone can take that road, anytime!
@Matthew Garay in another way, someone who does not have values that align with virginity, that is their choice. Of course I'll be friends with that person and want the best for 'em, but I'll just disagree with that person in that regard.
@@rachelw3533 I’m not sure if they deleted their comment but I don’t see it. I’ll answer you though. Virginity isn’t real because it’s just a social construct. There’s no word that means “I haven’t broken a bone” or “I haven’t gotten a tattoo” you just simply state those things. Virginity was made up as a way to shame women for having sex with more than one man. I know that it’s weird to think about because it’s so ingrained in our society that it’s a real thing but it’s just a fancy term for “I haven’t had sex”. It shouldn’t matter to anyone whether or not someone else has had sex unless you speaking in the sense of “is it possible you have an std” because that’s the only time it’s necessary to ask that question. Every other time it’s just out of curiosity or the want to shame that person
Where you are my fellow V card holder? Plus, we totally gonna ignore the fact that Jessica lost her virginity when she was *14 years old* to a *18 years old* dude.
I think that we’ve all seen this happen far too many times to single this particular scenario out. We all know that it’s wrong, but half of my friends lost their virginity in a similar situation
Something something puritan morality leaves lasting impressions on our culture at large, especially when so many of us have carried on being Christians.
@@bethdwyer7518 Im watching out of curiosity. I'm not here to judge people's sex lives. They can do whatever they want. And my orginal comment isn't about this video in particular.
To me it isn’t such a big deal. I’m a virgin, but if you want to have sex with someone then that’s your choice and you shouldn’t feel bad if anyone disagrees. Same goes for if you don’t want it until marriage. My health teacher said: “What goes on in your bed stays in your head.” And to me that’s very true. Just remembered I am a Hamilton account, so here is another quote from said health teachers: “don’t cheat on your wives, guys”
I feel like we put too much pressure and attention on sex and virginity. If you lose it great if you don’t that’s great too. As far as the education system goes though we should teach safety and knowledge because even though abstinence is the only way to 100% guarantee not getting an std or pregnant, most people do not choose it. This is proven by the states that teach abstinence only education, but have the highest teen pregnancy rates. Also for the people that want abstinence only education, what do you think is going to happen when that person does decide to have sex but doesn’t have the knowledge about safety, contraceptives, consent, etc.??? Or are you expecting people to just pop out of abstinence knowing everything 😅
I still obviously use condoms to prevent stds but my birth control is 99.8% effective. That’s good enough for me😂 I definitely agree though the focus should always always be on safe sex because it’s sex ed. How are you educating people by saying “just don’t do it”
I used to feel so left out because I’m the only person in my friend group who hasn’t had sex. Some of them used to tell me to go out to a club and just do it. I found that so disgusting when she told me that. I’m a very sentimental person so I want to share that moment with someone who I know and feel safe with. Heck I even had my first kiss a few months ago and honestly, just that altogether felt special to me, it felt right for me and so memorable. When I told that friend of my first kiss, she was jealous because it was one of those movie/picture perfect first kiss. I don’t necessarily want to wait until I’m married, but mostly just when it feels right for me and the other person.
your 1st kiss or time with doing sex. Is when it become more than that action the connection so strong it form bond between the two. You could go down that club have sex five times but when met the one person trun the act of sex into something more beyond that point, that your will be your first time. Cause up to that point it was only an stepping stone to your real first.
would've liked to see LGBT people in this discussion, considering the cultural conflict with religion and the inherently different definitions of "sex" and "virginity"...I think it would be an interesting perspective to add to the conversation
Lgbt is a sex preference that's all, they are the same as the people in the video.Either you wait or you don't.Just cause someone's GAY doesn't change the circumstances.
Inherently ? Wait i'm gay and I'm pretty sure I've got the same definition of "sex" and "virginity" as straight people. I might not do it the exact same way, but the concept is the same. So I'm not sure what your point is actually.
Regardless of whatever; married or not, religious or not, you should wait until YOU are ready to take that step. Not until someone tells you you’re ready
Who cares. Just do it when *you're* ready and be sufficiently educated about it. Also, be sexually responsible -get tested, take your necessary precautions, etc.
Having sex before marriage actually made me feel shittier about myself because In the end everybody I did it with I was using and vice versa, there’s actually value in loving someone and caring for them, makes it actually mean something
Hey there! Your comment was made one year ago... in that time, IFS statistics have shown that people with more sexual partners before marriage are more likely to divorce, be bad parents, and the children of such people are also more likely to cheat. So it's now a scientifically proven fact that pre marital intercourse is bad....
I think anyone can do whatever they want with their body and sexuality BUT we should defenetly teach safe sex in sex ed. We should talk about how for some people sex is something really meaningfull and because of it, some decide to save it for marriage, and they should not be shame for it. But for other people sex can be something fun, something that is a part of your life that its natural, and we also should not shame that.
Is sex a purpose in it self in Christian marriage? Christian marriage life is not based on relationship of two body but on relationship of two characters , two people who are free , special , have full respect , evaluating his human value , important In. Itself, loved in itself not for anything he has , and not for his body , cause person in itself is more percious , more valued - without measuring units - more then anything we have , cause the thing is used , consumed ,played with ، we may dispense with that thing , but person his freedom is respected ، reasoning with him , live with and he is special and unique and indispensable . In christian marriage every partner love each other for being him as whole entity , love his presence , mentality , ethically ، characteristics , bodily, behavioural and this is the christian marriage but love the other for what he have or for his body it is not original Christian marriage . Sexuality in bible by adel halim
I love the way Jessica approaches this topic and she makes it a lot easier to agree with her because of her background and how credible she is in this sort of situation.
Not really, I know many people who have remained abstinent for non-religious reasons - even as a college student. Statistically, young people on average are actually having less sexual partners and refraining entirely in higher numbers than previous generations. Many people I know feel like they just haven't connected with someone enough yet to sleep with them. Others cite the risks associated such as unplanned pregnancy and STDs. Some also claim that they're just too busy for relationships right now because of immense pressure in school/work to eventually pay off their debts; naturally that'll lead to less sex in general
My reasoning is quite straightforward. I wouldn’t want a slut to be raising my children. If I want to be worthy of an honourable woman, I can’t be screwing everything that moves.
it depends on who you have it with too, it is really good, it might be exagerated but i feel it like, as something normal just as kissing if the 2 people are in a relationship or both agreed to do it safely, i don't really know why it still is a taboo, we just hit 2020 and have old ways to treat stuff that should've changed long ago with sex
@@edgaral As for me it can only be great if there's a communication between partners. Speaking as a man, the woman should be clean and beautiful likewise men should also be clean and handsome.
I am a Christian feminist in her mid-twenties who is saving sex for marriage. For me, it is really empowering and even though I am often shamed for my virginity from other feminists, I am actually proud of it since it has required immense self-control. I love how respectful this discussion was!
katherine m this is a very good idea, as there have been numerous studies that point to the fact that women with a high partner count cheat more, divorce more and lose their ability to pair bond. If you want a long lasting marriage, that is one of the best ideas, pair two virgins (the statistics are there to back it up). Don’t listen to the feminists who shamed you for it, they will most likely be divorced cranky crabs in their 40’s, keep doing you.
I don’t know if that would work cause what are they arguing? Why you should or shouldn’t cause no matter what someone has to have kids and it’s usually the people who want them. How are we supposed to populate the earth if everyone doesn’t want kids?
@@CtrlAltPlant I think it's more about the pressure society is putting on women in that regard. The ted talk "I don't want children - stop telling me I'll change my mind" by Christen Reighter is about this topic and quite enlightening. You can find it here on youtube if you're interested.
@@mini-mei that sounds interesting, ill check that ted talk out. In my own experience I've never been pressured to have children let alone a boyfriend. Might be different, im in my mid 20s so maybe when im 30 ill hear it more ..? I wonder where people hear this cuz at least to my group of friends, its more improve your career etc.
Yea born again virgin is not a thing. I applaud that she made a commitment to God to wait following her mistake, but I don’t think born again virgin is a legitimate concept
@@adonaibaptiste4803 Depends if it's to remove dark spots and blemishes cool. But if it's cause you hate your natural skintone and been indoctrinated by the fair skin beauty standard belief not cool.
Adonai Baptiste I think that it will give an open discussion about it. If we do one on skin bleaching and people talk about their experience with skin bleaching people might not do it because of they watch this. Just because you don’t deem it as “good “doesn’t mean some people don’t view it as bad. People are going to do what they want to do. I’ve actually been researching skin bleaching because I read a book about a black girl talks about it, and it’s crazy how it messes up your melatonin. I want people to see how these people look. Most skin bleachers that strip away a lot of the melatonin don’t look black, and they don’t look like white. I think that it’s information that should be out there. If you choose to do it because people don’t know how damaging it is to the skin.
The idea of middle ground is understanding where other people are coming from, agreeing to disagree, and maybe compromising a little and becoming less harsh in your opinion. That’s not what people need in way of skin bleaching. Doing harm to your body with harsh chemicals because you want lighter skin isn’t something people should be meeting in the middle on.
I think a better way to frame your request is manipulating your skin tone through extremes like tanning beds, whitening injections, skin bleaching vs using darker/lighter foundations, tanning lotions etc which aren't that harmful, discussions could focus on diverse cultural beauty standards, pressures from respective communities, bullying, misinformed commercials, colourism. self-love, "blackfishing" (which is very trendy nowadays)and the horrific dangers of using these extreme interventions (harsh chemicals etc) because of low-self-esteem. The purpose of the discussion would not be to demean the people that use bleaching but to learn from their experiences and the psychological reasons that drive them to these extremes so we the public can get better educated.
I just discovered this channel like a week ago, and I'm absolutely in love with it. THIS is how you have conversations. It shouldn't be screaming and yelling matches; both sides should be able to present their opinions equally. And I like that neither side is trying to convince the other or sway them in any way, they are simply giving them a look into another mindset.
@@Zaron_Gaming Because the majority are linked in to their reptilian brain which says conform, don't question. That is not a criticism of those that do that is merely an observation. Sadly when you follow and don't question and box yourself in to the inevitable comfort zone anything that questions your world view is a threat, as you have probably observed
Smart people learn from their experiences. Wise people learn from other people's experiences. I decided to keep away from the drama while I was in high school because I saw how friends lives were ruined.
Abstinence is a personal choice p e r s o n a l SO no, abstinence has no place in sex education. (EDIT: whether you are chosing to “save yourself” for marriage or choosing to become a dominatrix, its ur choice to do it so but there is no place for it in sex ed. cause I dont think its the content that we should teach to kids/teens.) I believe that we should encourage the thought that it's more than okay to say no if you don't wanna have sex no matter the reason. If you dont want it, thats it. Safety, consent, preparation, protection, seeking for help, diseases, pleasure points for both gender, basic biology, not shaming others for their sexual choices or not shaming others for their sexual orientation or gender identification etc. that's what they should teach you in sex ed and NOT abstinence.
I think it’s definitely wrong to say it has no place. You always give them an alternative and let them know it’s okay to be celibate, not just “you can say no”.
This. Abstinence is not a thing in my country. It is never mentioned, not ever. Teaching consent picks up everything when it comes to choice. It's also called sex education and not religious education.
But if kids should have the ability to choose, shouldn't all options be presented? Not in a "you have to be abstinent" way but more of a "there's nothing wrong with being abstinent". I think it would be great to have a curriculum that teaches all about safe sex (and what sex is, because a lot of people seem to think there's things that are "technically not" sex), as well as talking about abstinence and how to handle pressure to have sex if that's not what you want.
@Matthew Garay what do you mean virginity isn't real? It's the state of not having had sex. If it's used to shame women why do some people make fun of men who are virgins? Kids really shouldn't be having sex at all. But they should be thought about what is and isn't safe, and how to protect themselves if they find themselves in an intimate situation.
Happens with heaps in my country; young couples fall in love(!), want to have sex, but cant because of the local pressure/probable judge/name calling, so they hastily get married to escape from the judging of society, while increasing their expectations about sex to the skies(after all they are going through all this stuff), the night comes, they start having sex, because they were both unexperienced, they cant get what they were expecting, then one of the partners gets sick of it after some time and they got divorced 6-12 months later(tops), or worse, stay married until death with someone they never actually loved in the first place. Virginity doesnt mean purity, because sex is not a degrading act, its an amazing intimate feeling we choose(or not if thats your thing) to share with the right partner(s)(most of the time anyways). Really liked the pony tail lady by the way, she is like my opposite gender carbon copy.
Sex is such a strong urge for people, that to reject it they need a lot of strength. Abstinence is not something people would do just for the heck of it. That group is very very small.
Yeah, as others have said, it kind of makes sense. Abstinence is a discipline choice. Without a strong reason for discipline, like religion (the strongest source an average person is going to have), there's not much that's going to give them strong motivation AGAINST sex. There are some people like that, yes, but I would guess that a majority of people who choose abstience do so because of religion. It's the only common source of that much discipline in actions.
@Elijah Gwayumba And yet, all that matters is you respect them. Doesn't matter if you like them or not, what matters is was we all want to be respected in the end.
This was such a nice episode, why is everybody making fun of and shaming these people? They all actually managed to talk about their opinions and issues without being judgemental or impolite and that was so fascinating to me.
22 and a virgin, haven't even kissed a girl, and ppl come to me for relationship advice as if I know what I'm talking about lol
You go bro. Here waiting till I'm in college and settled with someone meaningful to me 😊
Whaaaat you are fineee as wine! Are you waiting on purpose?
Hhhh 😂Same
I think this is one of the first times that I believe that someone is a virgin because "they're waiting for the one". Bruh if you wanted to you could have sex whenever you want lol.
@@carlabarreiro4 yeah for the one, but things are looking sorta bleak. I'm getting mentally prepared to be alone tbh
Sometimes the comments are better than the dialogue in the video
True
That’s all I come for the comments
True. 89% of the time I click cause of the comment section. It's *gold.*
Comments is better than Content
Random ppl are the best form of entertainment. Fact! ^^
People put so much pressure on virginity, especially as a teenager and young adult. It's a not a competition to loose it faster, it's not a right of passage, and it doest make you more of a woman/man. Go at your own pace and do what is right to you.
Personally I'm muslim and that doesn't exist between us xD So when I heard of those sort of competitions I was surprised, but like really ... I thought 'why would that be cool ?', I always thought having sex after marriage was the thing to do (still thinking that) at least I'll have no or 'less big' regrets.
Yes, I agree but keeping the virginity doesn't make somebody worthier neither
@MR. Right No, those that don't are modest and are less 'bestial' since they don't let their sexual pulses overcome them. That's real evolution.
@@lara.lauter In my eye I'd see someone who didn't have sex until marriage worthier than one that did it, but still what you think/believe depends on culture.
@@khletus8511 I'm a virgin and I totally agree with you 🙌💯
wtf her friends shamed her because she's a virgin? bruh im not religious but that's not right
Totsie V friends shouldn’t shame you for anything lol what?
Happens all the time. People are really weird about it
I’m religious and I hate when people judge and shame others like that’s probably the only thing I hate about the religious community.
That's not new
• amber • I get shamed for having sex with someone I deeply trust at age 15. We’d been dating a year and are still dating 3 years after sex. I don’t know why people have to be so touchy about this stuff and why my parents can’t see that I am with someone that I love and should be able to have safe sex without them making me feel so shitty for it.
it's none of my business what other people do in the sheets and that's the tea
let's talk about harry potter A-Men 😤
It's not so much about what people do privately, but about how we handle the topic. That's why this was made, to create a discussion about the stigma we have about virginity, premarital sex, abstinence, safe sex, etc. No one is talking possitions here, they're talking the impact of their choices in their life and in the society around them
Quel How has premarital sex negatively affected society?
Genghis Smith teen births, more stds, less satisfied in sex during marriage, etc
blue 2122 Lol, people have ALWAYS being having sex before marriage....humans are very sexual creatures, after all. The fact is, good sex-education lowers the prevalence of teen births and std's.....so why aren't you advocating for that? As if I didn't know.....😂😂😂
Hmm, I’m sure I read somewhere that teen pregnancies and std’s are higher in the ‘abstinence’ loving Bible Belt. Will have to do some research....
i think you should do an episode with single-gender schools like all girls and all boys schools vs coed education
Annaliese Jameson i would fly from england to be on that episode 😂
Annaliese Jameson YES
my name's blurryface and i care what you think same i’m in year 11 rn in an all girls
Annaliese Jameson lmaoo i study in an all girls private school and it's not that bad. i would love to see people discuss their experiences with each type of schools though
I would fly to the US do do this
Quick question: What if I'm not religious but still a virgin because my face
Lmaooo
Lmao me
Be confident. The right person is written in your story. I know you said you aren’t religious but you may have heard the saying “He May not come when you want Him but He’s right on time.” God sends blessings only when we’re ready and prepared for this and because of the way God views sex as well as the way He loves you, he wants you to be prepared for that. He wants you to be whole.
😂😂😂😂 pay a sex worker.
@@aycaiix people who complain about 'appearance discrimination' tend to look for people way out of their league. I thought it was a biological fact that humans were most likely to mate with someone similar to them on the 'rating' (not sure how to phrase that) - it's also not a real thing. The amount of 3/10 guys or girls I've seen complain about not getting with 9/10 guys or girls really irritate me. If they see past appearances and fall in love with your personality or vice versa then that's amazing, but it's not entitlement that brings them to you but being a great person. If they aren't attracted to you, then that just sucks. I think people also forget that '2/10s' are also '8/10s' to the right person.
I love how they were all accepting of each other’s opinions as well as their own. This is how it should be
It's not really a controversial topic lol that's why it's so simple, all people making decisions for themselves. Not so easy for other opinions sadly.
Not really they were eating eachother in tn the eyes🤣
Yes but this is bad for TH-cam, no conflict))
That's how it actually is but what we mostly see are people fighting or being disrespect and usually those times are for views or ratings
Accepting? On the outside maybe...
There’s a difference between abstinence and not being able to get laid
ay
XD
and i am the latter
Is that considered being an incel?
Laurel yup
I HATE the term purity as it relates to abstinence. You're not pure even if you are a virgin. Innocent maybe. But no one is pure. We're all imperfect sinners.
All purity means is being genuine with your thoughts words and actions. Purity is not the same as being holy. So it does apply to abstinence. Abstinence is staying grounded for what you want.(you can even abstain from coffee). Abstinence is only a genuine desire want to wait for whoever you think is worth giving yourself self to. Religious or not.
Cheryl Powell
ok, but the way it's painted by a lot of people is negative & toxic.
@@eliza3986 Agreed I would really like for them to actually figure out what it actually means. Purity is a mindset not physical.
Cheryl Powell
yeah, that'd be interesting!
@@eliza3986 Lol Right!
Daughters that grew up with fathers and those that didn’t would be an interesting video!
and sons
I would love this video
Daddy issues
would love to be a part of this
Sons would be way more interesting that’s just a given
Wish they would’ve had an abstinent person who wasn’t religious as well.
Abstinence. Pffft. What a horrible idea.
Truth and why is that
that hardly makes sense tho... people choose abstinence because of their religion.
@@truth2972 why tho
@@thatamericanbritishbloke5672 not really, it can be because of personal opinions, hence why abstinence is a choice
At the end of the day, do whatever you feel comfortable doing or not doing.. If you're curious, give it a go but be safe. If you wanna wait, then wait.
We all have the choice to commit sin or not...
@Jay & Rengin Well said 👏
@@leahjames6870
But we all have the freedom to do what we want. Do you eat pork?
@@leahjames6870 yes, it's a sin
@@leahjames6870 Not everyone considers it as a sin.
No matter if they agreed or disagreed, they were respectful and nonjudgmental of each other. That aspect is beautiful and the way everybody should be.
Completely agree! As a Christian, one option to help Christians be less judgmental is to tell them they are being "arrogant." We believe it's ok to judge sin, but many get confused and start being arrogant about their beliefs.
Elizabeth B completely agree
@@Nathan987651 While it's true what you say, I don't think Christians are more judgemental. It just sticks out more because Christians are held to higher standards. Atheists fail their own standards too though
@@michaelmiky11 Yes that's very true. It's hard but we are held to a higher standard.
@@Nathan987651 Yeah and just to echo what you said about judging sin. People who deny that must have never read Matthew 23 haha. We can judge, with the condition that it's not hypocritical.
12:59 some say he is still nodding to this day
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Alpacalypse he was nodding and she barely said anything lmao
I was waiting for someone to comment that lol
I was looking for this comment 😂
Why is no one talking about the 14 year old and 18 year old like that’s illegal
It may not have been illegal but it's not okay
It isn't, also, to each their own. It happens in a dayly basis all around the world. You can't pretend it doesn't. It may be a good or bad experience but it happens.
Luke Green I mean that’s a freshmen and a senior in hs. Not really a huge difference, and it’s not illegal everywhere either. Plus it clearly happened a long time ago given that girl was like 40.
@vintage 725 I definitely wouldn't equate them with pedophiles, but I do think they are often being predatory. That's primarily based on personal experience though, so to each his own.
Luke Green in some states it is, and in some it’s not. Like for example, Minnesota (my state) if they are the age from 13-15, they can have sexual relations with someone 4 years older than them. (So 14, she could legally be with someone 18) and 16 is a age of consent.
Everyone in this video was open and respectful and even insightful. Shoutout to Brandon for admitting he's questioned his choices and lived in the gray areas. Keep being you.
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@*_ Ominous_* dats crazy
grant martin bots bro
I think teachers and students would be a good middle ground video
Molly Woods at the same school
Or teachers and parents. As in an aspect of the parents getting mad at the teacher for lack of “not teaching” when reality we should be helping our kids, giving them that one on one time at home.
Lol
Mind blown
Molly Woods y’all get this to the TOP
Abstinence is a personal choice, which isn't the place of schools to teach. But schools should teach consent and empower people to say no if they want to.
And safer sex knowledge is just facts. That should definitely be taught.
Being 100% factual the only way to 100% not have a chance for a baby or std is abstinence. You can never be sure that a child wont pop up or get an std.
@@orangehiccup5726 Actually, you can be 100% certain that you won't have a baby by taking necessary precautions with contraceptives. Namely, birth control and condoms COMBINED. You're fooling yourself if you think kids are gonna listen to your ramble about abstinence and gonna stick with it all the way till marriage. Ridiculous.
@@rayofsummer720 agree
I think abstinence should be taught in school because like you said it is a choice like having sex is! Both should be I introduced with the pros and cons, so people don't feel forced into needing to partake in sex before they are ready! The other side of the sex talk that is often neglected!
Schools teach abstinence for more "the best way to prevent STDs is abstinence"
This was the most civil episode, everyone saw eachothers opinion and even joked or giggled about it in some cases. Very positive! :)
I’m commenting mostly because you don’t have any comments but have 532 likes. 😅
One more like and we'll bring Satan to the discussion. 😈
(Before anybody gets offended: it's a joke.)
You guys should do climate change deniers vs. climate change believers
Jeon Jungkook climate change deniers vs sane fckg people
ahahahah ahahahah
bless you
Climate change is a god damn fact. Are you going to deny facts?
Jesus Christ thanks Jesus!
Jeon Jungkook
The thing is that topic isn't an opinion. Climate change is a fact backed by every scientists in the world. Hell even China agrees it's real
Lmao
suggestion: African immigrants and African Americans meet eye to eye? There has always been this tension in the black community where it seems that African-Americans distance themselves from their African heritage or that African immigrants see themselves as better than African-Americans. I don't know if this makes sense but having this has a middle ground episode could be a cool opportunity to delve into that assumption/assumed stereotypes and somewhat unite the black community in America!
I agree with this, and also Afro-Caribbeans.
Look at the movie documentary "the lost boys of sudan." It takes understanding the richness of African culture to realize the answer to this statement.
African Americans (not immigrant dual citizenship or beyond first generation) are americanized and not the same. Though you see resemblances of black culture and traditional African legacy in dances, music / rap, and drumming, the two are different cultural streams.
I don’t know if the cultural tension was always that obvious though? I feel like that point has been exaggerated much more in recent years, than it has previously.
I think theres also a tension from stronger paternal bonds in Africa and the decreasing paternal bonds in the states. Lord knows we need stronger black fathers
Yes ! This really needs to be addressed.
Interesting! I wanted to offer up my take on abstinence- I'm 26, a virgin by choice. No religious reasons whatsoever. I just sincerely want to save it for marriage; it feels like the best choice for my physical, mental, emotional and spiritual health. That being said, I respect EVERYONE'S decision to do what's best for them! Never give in to social norms and always, rather - do what feels right in your heart.
I totally agree! Self discovery is powerful imo :) And you're right - although it's "normal" to be having sex ect, we're just choosing to take MORE ownership as to when we want it to happen and with whom, rather than conform to social constructs. I wouldn't "pressure" anyone to do as I do because I think it takes a lot of honesty (within yourself) to get to such a decision (being it without religious reasons)...that being said, I can totally see how sex is a healthy part of life. Never be ashamed for being you and making the choices that are whole with your spirit :)
Oh haha, yes I understood you meant masturbation, hence why I said "self discovery". I don't know if you're younger than I because if you are than maybe it makes more sense to feel ashamed of masturbation...I think it's natural and essential in life; at least in order for you to figure out your own body and see what gives you pleasure (at the end of the day, we have ourselves alone). I personally would be honest in admitting I do it but then again it depends to whom haha! You don't have to share that intimate part of yourself with anyone you don't feel comfortable with or even mention it if you're uncomfortable, of course. Hope that helps?
Agree completely! Nice to know others have the same opinion. I don't feel like I'm repressing myself by not having sex, like some of my friends have told me. And my decision isn't based on my religion either. It's just what I feel in my heart.
Haha yes, I had a feeling you might be younger - I feel you! It is super embarrassing to talk about when you're younger, for sure. No doubt about it. So yes, I do "do it" lol ! It's natural though - don't feel bad about it if you yourself also do it or enjoy engaging it it, with yourself (as long as you're being safe and respectful of your body ect, I would say). So yeah, I'm too told to deny it or act like it's gross haha :) Thanks for admiring my courage! To answer your question, I think it's easier to admit it maybe so in my age because it's like...I'm a grown Lady and it would seem odd (as a virgin) to deny my natural instincts and sexual "needs" that already are not exactly fulfilled by someone else...so I think it's natural to assume I "fulfill" those needs, for myself. I think people would assume that to, about us. So maybe that makes it somewhat less awkward? hopefully so and hope I'm making sense. I think the MOST embarrassed I had been (admitting to "doing it") was while I was asked in Therapy by a MALE Therapist that I'm soo attracted to - he literally flat out asked if I masturbate because he couldn't understand why I've never had a bf or been in a relationship (at my age) and so he of course had to go back in time and ask if I was ever attracted to men (which I am) and then got into this awkward space asking if I even fantasize sexually about men or even engage in masturbation...you BEST BELIEVE I was red as hell lmao !!! I could barely admit to it but I did, yes. Awkward as hell! haha. So yeah, even people like me get embarrassed for sure ;P
Hey there, Nic! I'm glad you agree with my comment. It's lovely to hear others such as yourself who totally understand where I'm coming from. You said it best - "I don't feel like I'm repressing myself by not having sex" - totally!
A 14 year old and an 18 year old!?
FBI: “open up”
14 & 18 aren’t that big of a difference. People just don’t see the inside perspective of the relationship
@@waxtopia but its illegal
@@waxtopia Wrong, that's a 4 year difference and 4 years is a long ass time. There's also the fact that they are in two different age groups. He's legally an adult and 14 years is too young to even bring up Romeo and Juileit laws.
maddy sykes homie a 14 year old can be an 8th grader and someone in their first year or college. That’s not a big difference??
@@waxtopia that's a senior dating an 8th grader.
I understand people making the choice to wait for their timing and I'm here for it. Do it when you and your parther are ready. But I disagree with this concept of purity because a person is a vrigin. I think this brings judgement and shame that a non vrigin is "dirty" or "used".
They are used😐
@@thesismoon8125 Human contact make people used? Do you not hug or shake hands? Maybe some virgins have had more human contact than non virgins, thus they are more "used". There is no logical moral distinction
@@shuepsx652 not the same thing..what the heck
@@rochelleforsberg8870 Can you give me a single logical reason for considering one contact damaging and the other not?
Agreed
Sex shouldn’t be generally defined ... wtf? It’s a personal choice, you make your own choices, especially on the sexual level. As long as it’s mutually consensual and safe, there shouldn’t be an issue....
not really, it affects entire human race like 1 person can do, sex befr marriage is called codependency and it makes you narcissistic, you live with the shame of lack of strenght and quality of marriage is low with high chances of divorce and sociopathic children
@@ArianTheDon88 This is why there's birth control pills and condoms and other way of protecting yourself. The entire humanity? That's a bit big and who does it make you selfish? We are all selfish in some degree, you work for gaining money. You could say it's selfish since you keep it for your self and don't give it to others people. We're individual, it's normal to think for your self. But it doesn't mean that you harm other if you're responsable.
@@feliciamartin9771 you harm yourself because you go against the sanctity of marriage, you build on yourself in solitude while being on a progressive and evolutionary path, only when that is achieved you can have a connection with someone which is infinite, that's when you get married and interdependently work with your spouse till death do you part or Yeshua returns. You were always too exposed to the sinful ways of the west. Lust is destructive, we might not be Yeshua(Jesus) but he clearly told us how it is and it makes sense, be weak and you'll feel the consequences in this life or on the day of judgement, ultimately the universe or God whatever is larger than us and created us beyond our will knows it will end with him joining us.
@@feliciamartin9771 I'm 26 and male and dodged it at least 10x even tho I'm not as holy as I wish I was, the things I did do.. I live with the shame because denial aint my thing but I'm not going to double down on it anymore. Do I sound socially awkward? Do I sound unhappy? Keep prayer up and meditation and ask for forgiveness everyday and attract someone as real as possible so I never get divorced and my kids future or my legacy is secure, pave the path for heaven on earth. 1 Human can change everything, I think history has proven that. It's about self-respect. Sex is temporary it means nothing if you've felt what heaven feels like. Now imagine the relationship I'll have. Pretty fun huh how God rewards us for self restraint and devotion to him.
@@ArianTheDon88 not everyone is religious. You can't use religion for an argument.
is it just me or do i feel people in general describe love and virginity very negatively, "falling in love", "losing virginity", why fall, why lose?
Heng Hui Mei I agree about the “losing” virginity but I think the way I’ve always interpreted “falling in love” is less the scary side of falling and more... skydiving. A little scary, especially at first, but exhilarating. It’s risky but it’s a rush, and it’s beautiful when you stop to appreciate how marvelous it can be.
Heng Hui Mei Heng Hui Mei "falling" refers to the more or less involuntarily nature of developing attachment, as there's so much biology and chemistry beyond our control that's involved . Also to explain "losing" virginity: most cultures recognize intimacy of any kind is only worth something when it's the the context of some kind of life-long commitment(marriage).we all intuitively know this, it sucks to be vulnerable relationally with a human being only to have them pull out on us as soon as we become inconvenient. The consequences for this now are only social these days, but back then, especially for women who relied on men for their provision, this was often deadly.
Heng Hui Mei I agree with virginity, you don’t lose something, but you rather gain experience and knowledge. Thinking virginity is worthy (or shameful) is quite harmful.
Free Hugs - maybe to* you* but the romantics of the world, myself included, would strongly disagree.
love is sort of a dreadful thing, in the sense that’s it’s terribly frightening. But it’s so warm, it’s just (from my perspective) undeniably beautiful.
That is interesting. My grandma never phrased it like that, it was always "giving away" your virginity. Virginity is supposed to be considered a gift to your partner, not a burden.
This lady said “Born again virgin” with a straight face I-
I know right lol
i laughed
Haha right!
It's a thing in Christianity and anyone is free to do it
Man I was taken back by that too. Anything she said about sex after that I ain’t even take her seriously
They should’ve brought in someone who was practising abstinence out of choice and not just coz god told you to do so, would’ve given a different perspective.
They did
Nobody is abstinent out of choice.
Whole Food Plant-Based Man Hi, guy here. Never had sex, never plan to. Don't believe in God, either. :)
@@MrShyguyRS You never plan to have sex? Interesting, can I ask how old you are?
RIGHT?!
Thank you!!
I mean come on, it’s not all about religion and social norms now.
Whether you choose to screw or you not to screw. There are more “definable” circumstances to it, so why not bring somebody who goes by some other rhyme/reason.
Jubilee videos AND their comment sections are literally the most civilized and enlightening part of TH-cam. I spend more time reading the comments and enjoying the conversations of the viewers than the original video. They in itself, are healthy and productive conversations regarding the topic.
I do the same😄
This is so true that it's almost scary
Heh.... Actually not
False. Go to the video on "What if there were no Black people"
I've been scrolling for like an hour now haha
I haven't had sex for 21 years......
I'm 21
Kookie Kusu u were gettin freaky in the womb then
Kookie Kusu I'm 32
Who cares
So you did in the womb?😂 jk haha ik whatchu mean
Im 23 and virgin, beat that
“I lost my virginity at 14..... In the back of a hot ride with a guy 18”
Everybody Else: *Blink Face
Me: Oh, Hold tf on. What?!?”
Right I just like the fact nobody mentioned the pedophilia
She a victim
She consented you idiots I would do the same if I found someone........
@@angelica1577 still statutory rape
@@angelica1577 4 year difference would've been reasonable if they were adults but here both are biologically different states of psychological development. An 18 year old has most likely completed his puberty and the 14 year old is still on the way. The difference between intellectual capacity between 14 and 18 would be a lot more than 22 and 26
Having sex before marriage is all good. Waiting for marriage to have sex is all good. As long as it’s two consenting adults, obviously not related, it’s all good to do whatever. You do you.
However, I do think that safe sex should be taught in schools with abstinence as an option. It should be put in along with everything else. Also, public schools should include getting tested as part of the curriculum and hopefully include places where someone can, just in case.
jequestrian Of course, but that’s what some people want. No committed relationships, just sex. Which is all good in my book, as long as both parties consent and are safe.
I agree, in the high school I went to we weren't even allowed to ask questions about safe sex, it's absolutely ridiculous. I lived in a fairly religious state and religion totally influenced what I learned about sex.
Addie H you don’t want to know if you have STDs? A potentially life altering situation?
Addie H Telling them that they can get STDs and should get tested after any form of sex to make sure they didn’t catch anything is bad in a high school curriculum? They need to know these things. They need to know that just using a condom isn’t going to protect them from everything and there’s multiple ways to catch it. They should be aware that it’s a good thing to ensure your health after every partner.
@@mythnyx3791 So you are saying fornication is moral?
I would rly like to hear some pro abstinence that wasnt religous
Angelica Pasek me! I’m 20. To be honest its not about “purity” i dont believe in that. Idk i just wanna wait and im not really that intrigued about sex. Plus for me i dont really wanna have sex with someone i dont love and I’ve never really loved someone. Dating at such a young age for me is a waste of time because i have too much shits on my plate right now
@@injiyoo7962 not wanting to have sex is not really abstinence.
I'm pro abstinence and non religious. Ask me anything 😂
Yes! I am religious but there is some really interesting scientific points too
Angelica Pasek I feel like a good non-religious argument is that I don’t wanna share the risk of potential STDs with someone by going in raw, even though that’s gonna be significantly more pleasurable than using a condom. Also, you don’t have to worry about catching feelings with someone whom you already love from having sex, like some people do with FWBs or even sometimes a ONS. Additionally, having sex with someone who has a clean slate entirely eliminates potential jealousy or confidence issues that stem from how well the person’s ex(es) had sex with them. Sex is about as natural as food and even more gratifying, which is why it should be handled with caution regarding who you have sex with.
*Do Pro Marijuana vs Anti Marijuana*
Zayy Star yesss
That's like Pro Air vs Anti Air for people with really bad illnesses
Oh yeah yeah Yeah okay..
@@freakcree6218 makes no sense
It's 2019 i didn't know ppl were still fighting how other ppl treat their ailments naturally or make themselves happy. Strange...
The pregnant woman looks like she's always disgusted when she talks.
Paulina Sjöberg she can smell their farts !
Her face is just like that.
Paulina Sjöberg I guess her hormones are making her smell a lot of things😩
Arwen Yoon then she sinned since she has anxiety,.oh wonderful Christianity
Megan's world
Only boomer Christians think that🙄
Do Porn Stars Vs Anti-Porn Advocates next
t.j._ edits YES
t.j._ edits That would be totally intresting
t.j._ edits yes
Yuck porn stars are disgusting
they did something similar with sex workers!
I'm 19 years old, still Virgin I had no problem at all. Because I'm waiting for my right man ❤️
You can have premarital sex if you have found someone who really loves you. Just don't do it too much, focus on strengthening your emotional bonding, be more empathic toward your partner and everything will be fine
@@s.d.966 If he or she wants to wait, they can wait. I am 20 years old still waiting for marriage because IT IS the right thing to do. More so the BETTER thing to do. No matter what you think, there will always be some kind of spiritual attachment. So if you're not with your spouse, there will most likely be some soul-tie there. Those are some demons you don't want to deal with.
Rendaboyd for you to say that one is more right than the other is disgusting and wrong. Everyone has the choice to either wait or not, and neither is right or wrong.
Ellen Jensen Yes that is true, everyone does have to choice, but to say it is not wrong to have premarital sex is in fact... wrong. There’s a word for it too, it’s called fornication. The Lord said this is a sin against the body. He commands Christians to flee fornication as a sin against self and God, for the believer's body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (see I Corinthians 6:18-19). It is very important to understand that neither fornicators nor adulterers will enter the kingdom of heaven (see I Corinthians 6:9-10). In today's world, the term fornication is rarely used and immorality between unmarried people is commonly accepted as a lifestyle. But immorality, however commonplace, is a sin that will keep millions of people out of heaven, unless they repent.
Rendaboyd but not everyone is a Christian
......they all have beautiful noses
..........what
Nina Ahgase i am jealous
That's so random but yeah they got nice noses.
IGOT7!!!???
so random but okay..
I want to save myself for the wedding night and my non-Christian friends think I'm crazy. They say it will be embarrassing for my future husband and that no one will want to be in a relationship with me if they need to wait to make love. But I am proud of my faith and my decision to wait. I'm a virgin and proud of it.
Stand tall in it girl ✊ its hard but I know it has to be worth it!
I am religious but I'm not waiting because of my religion. I don't like being touched.....and people tend to get hung up on me. It's weird.
Me too
i support that
Stand strong! The Lord will help you
@The Moon you right
i strongly disagree with the virgin guy on the education thing. forcing one religion into schools is not okay. what he was talking about is something that should be taught about at his church, not in schools. school is for educating youth with facts and real information, not for forcing your own opinions and ideals on them.
Same. At least I think both side need to have the common ground that abstinence-only education doesn't work.
You cannot have a union of people that do not share the same set of beliefs, religion. If you want to be marginalized just continue sinning.
eax2010EA well then maybe religion should move into the 21st century.
wait when did he say that??
@@chrisklappich5998 Religion does not move based on the wishes of the people.
It's interesting that the only person who hadn't been shamed about having sex was a guy who isn't a virgin. Society still places these expectations on women that having too much sex is bad, and it tells men that they aren't masculine if they are still a virgin at an older age. I think it's good that we can talk about sex more openly in our society today, but we clearly still have a long way to go to break these stereotypes.
I totally agree!
I agree
Nicely said, totally agree 👏🏽
I was about to say it lol
Agree
It’s weird because marriage is literally just a legally recognized committed relationship. So I agree with the girl who made the comment about why is it not a sin after your married but it is before...?
Being a virgin actually mattered when getting divorced was a big deal and was shameful
Sadly majority of people don’t take marriage seriously anymore
actually in the bible the act of sex was marriage, adam knew his wife meaning sex and that was the marriage. There was never a ceremony. So i think God wants us to have only one partner
So many people attach Christianity to marriage when 1) marriage existed before Christianity and 2) marriage exists outside Christianity.
Did it exist before Adam and Eve?
This is one of the few middle grounds where I quite liked everyone. The respect and conversation was honestly great.
Wow I really nod my head a lot 😩 but this was such a great experience, and I loved listening to everyone. Thankful for Jubilee for opening conversations like this 🙏🏻
Brandon Write thanks for keeping it 💯 ! 🙏🏽
+Brandon Write I agreed with everything you said, and have the same beliefs coming from a Christian background.
Haha I didn't notice you did it until watching!! Glad we were all able to have an open and honest convo :)
@@AtLeastTryALittle You really thought you were making a statement, huh
Nicholas Berry you don’t have to agree with how he feels but you shouldn’t disrespect anyone’s religion or lack thereof.
Jubilee, I’ve learned so much from your volunteers on how to be a constructive, understanding, and productive participant of an argument. You have exceptionally mature and confident people voicing their opinions with no fear of judgement which is truly special. Well done!
Edit: Amazed how far my comment has reached. Thanks for all of the love, Jubilee and friends!
Hey Liz! This is Ien who works at Jubilee. Thanks so much for the kind words :) Onward and upward with respectful, mature dialogue - even between people who might disagree deeply! Spreadin' the love, yo
@Liz couldn't agree more. Just bl**dy love this set-up and channel. Doing amazing things for modelling tolerance & respect in a pretty polarised, quick-to-judge, even hate-filled modern world. So much admiration every time I watch one of these videos for the maturity and open-mindedness of the volunteers with polar opposite viewpoints.
So refreshing to see
It is a really cool setup..!
Dots Grey hey! I totally see your point, and thank you for bringing that to my attention. I can’t say that I am accepting or supporting of his statement, but I’m more of a proponent of conversation and hearing someone out regardless if understanding is necessarily met. Hopefully, you can see that now from my original comment.
I consider myself an attractive guy, I’m 18 and still a virgin. I’ve had many opportunities but idk, something in me is telling me to be patient... it’s corny, butttttt that’s how I feel🤷🏽♂️
User1 ght good for you it is a great thing seriously to wait
I didn’t wait but I respect that
It is important to wait until you feel ready and are mature, whether it be waiting until marriage or in a committed relationship outside of marriage.
User1 ght same here.
Same bro. It's all right. Focus on school and money
What if I am an atheist and saving myself for my marriage life.
Your body your choice
That's really nice to hear
same I don’t want to risk getting pregnant but I don’t believe in any religion or religious purpose
That’s great too!
well, that's your choice and its the one right for you! i am an atheist too, but i personally do not want to wait until marriage. idek if i want to get married lol
12:58 Legends says that he is still nodding
Dead 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
NeeD 💀💀💀
Thanks! I thought I was the only one!
Well sOrRrY, he was jamming out to his Christian playlist.
Still nodding 1 min later
a video on Public vs Private Schools! does it affect your career/ future and opportunities?
Add catholic schools there too just for fun
To be honest, I think the debate in America surrounding public vs. private has much more do to with how much funding private schools draw away from public schools and how many more opportunities students have as a result.
@@ramywiles i totally agree and thats why it would be great to see people debate about this!
Great idea never thought of that
Georgia O`Connor Public Vs Private School is definitely a must they have to do it! I’d love to hear the opinions of not just the volunteers who will be in the video but the many viewers here on TH-cam.
You can’t debate this topic because it’s just a matter of religious beliefs and personal opinions, so there’s not really any points that you can consider valid or invalid
YME3 Productions every single choice ever is based on morals when no laws are involved.
About sexual education, there is definitely an objective argument.
exactly. it just affects YOU, and you don't affect any other life by doing or not doing it, so it shouldn't be a discussion at all
Lonkinella sex creates babies. It does affect more than 2 consenting people.
@@MissingYouser both premarital and after marriage sex can create babies so i don't see how that matters. also there is prottection which should always be used *if* you don't want to create a baby
When abstinence is forced, it leads to people getting married quicker and subsequently leads to more abusive relationships.
I have witnessed it as I am from catholic Ireland. Everyone got married young, but from what I can tell, the husband would beat the woman a lot. (Great grandparents). When women are coerced into marrying, that leads to a loss in women’s rights as they usually have kids shortly after and then have to stay at home minding kids.
However if a person chooses to abstain that’s much better and won’t lead to these problems.
Here's some things to consider,
In abstinence-teaching districts:
-Abortion rates go up
-Rape rates go up
-Teen pregnancy rates go up
So... do with that what you will.
Aughbub dibub TRUE
Not because of that
I feel like the most you try to force something onto someone (here abstinence), the more they will try to go against you and push the boundaries. If it’s not your choice, you will never commit to it 🤷🏾♀️ just my opinion
Would love to see the actual stats on these claims. Teaching a generation of students to pursue self-control is never a bad thing. Sadly, though, parents, esp fathers, should be teaching their children this, but too many are absent or unwilling.
That’s because they’re not properly educated on sex in those communities, which is a huge problem considering most will not want to be abstinent. Safe sex and most importantly consent need to be taught alongside the importance of abstinence to prevent these issues occurring as much.
Body modification vs. All Natural
💣💣💣
Yes
yes yes yes
that would be wild.
I can already see how that video would go.
*Body mod people* : Even though we believe in Body Mods. It's still important that you try your best to love your own body and love what you were given. But sometimes you might lean towards wanting a quick fix.
*All Naturals* : OMG IT'S SO AWFUL THE WAY PEOPLE PROMOTE IT AS IF IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO!, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
What a lot of All Naturals fail to realize is that people do it usually through insecurities. It's absolutely gross to shame people for wanting to boost their confidence more and just be happy with themselves more.
9:06
*Ariana Grande has joined the chat*
😂😂😂😂
*She even said “one and done” LMAO*
😂😂😂
never trust an edited comment
Only the sith deal in absolutes
Biologically speaking, there are going to be emotions and memories and thoughts that go with every sexual experience. No significant physical sensation is purely physical, unless there's something wrong with your brain. Also, even if you think the sex is purely physical, there's no guarantee that your partner feels the same way. That's why a FWB relationship is so dangerous is because it may start with an understanding that it's purely physical, but there are many cases where it doesn't stay that way. Emotions often get involved when that was not the intent.
glad somebody has the rational to logically scrutinize this argument. I 100% agree.
While I also 100% agree with what you said I don’t think it’s so much that sex causes an emotional reaction or connection I think it’s more that sex causes a release of serotonin and dopamine which makes us think there is an emotional reaction or connection. If you don’t know the person and it was just a one night stand or even a quick fling once the serotonin or dopamine is gone it becomes just a physical thing where as in a relationship you get those same happy chemicals from just being around them sex or not.
preach
I mean aromantics don’t seem to have a problem
Next episode you should do Flat-Earthers vs Scientists
Mexton flat earthers vs mentally stable
Megan Carrington Not gonna lie as much as I disagree with flat earthers, I wouldn’t call them mentally unstable. I have some respect for them challenging scientific theory, even when round earth has been proven over 2,000 years ago lol
Mexton This shouldn’t even be an argument
Ooohh that would be a good one
Every scientist is paid off by the government though. Look up Warner Von Brauns (the head of NASA) tombstone, he even admits the world is flat on there.
I’m a virgin because I never lose 😎
Keep up the good fight!
Patience is a virtue!
Aurora Sparks lol u got that off a yearbook quote eh?
But what you did do is lose your dignity while writing that
@@catherinembidde3498 LOL
I think sexual compatibility is an important thing to learn before going all in and getting married, which wasn't mentioned in the video. I've heard of many cases where people just couldn't work because one was kinky and the other wasn't. I personally would not want to wait till I'm already married to find that out.
Yes, everyone is different! Especially virgins who don't know what feels good to them!
ChristineRewild I'm pretty sure people should talk about themselves and what their into before deciding to marry someone else.
@@SpinningSage True, but I believe there is a level of understanding that won't be reached from an outside perspective like that (meaning people talking about sex who aren't actually having sex) It can be easy to put those preferences on the back burner if they're not in the foreground. "Oh, you say you have this kink? Well okay..it can't be that bad" or "I'm sure we can make it work". Only to finally get there and realize, it really isn't that simple. I'm sure it isn't always like this, but no one wants to lose someone they love over a kink..but it happens. And it's not going to happen until they actually start having a sex life and realize they can't see eye to eye in the end.
Exactly. Sex is just another way of bonding but because it’s so stigmatized in this country, people overlook the fact that it can help you further your relationship with your partner
But if two people wait till they are married they WILL be compatible sexually. Your comment is only applicable to those who value sexual encounters before a committed relationship. If 2 people wait they have nothing to compare it to and it WILL be the best sex they have ever had 🙂. You mentioned "kinky". This is something that evolves from sexual activity and perversions which are adapted by those who practice them. Again, not likely an issue among those choosing to save themselves for marriage.
But the real question still remains:
What if you dont wanna get married?????
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Edit: My most liked comment!!! OMG!!
Leah Kennish then wait for a longterm committed partner.
The right person is the one that doesn’t mind waiting until you are ready. And maybe even a bit later than that.
Girls of High Value not the point lol you can love someone with your whole heart but not wanna get married it’s not always about the other person if that makes sense
Jayden Hutchins it’s always up to each person individually. But what is best is not relative :)
Just have sex whenever you want and if you never want to have sex that's cool too
👏👏👏👏💯 exactly
Love this so much, as a 16 year old female that is constantly ask why/if/when/how virginity. At times I find it frustrating, I’m still a virgin that neither absence, or premarital. I’m neither waiting or trying to lose. I’m just going with the flow if it happens it happens if not it’s ok. I just love listening to both sides.
Daisy Love i was the same way. I was a virgin till December 2 weeks before Christmas (19 and still 19) best decision ever. I had a friend that lost hers at 15 and she regrets not waiting till she was actually ready.
I lost my virginity at the age of 15 (now 24) I lost it to someone I loved, no pressure both wanted to be "one". So for me I don't regret it all. I've had sex since the. But only with my long term relationships. So 3 people for me. I dated lots of people! But only 3 got to have me. After my first I had 1 more then finally my Husband. I believe it's completely up to you! You do it when you're ready and with love. And protection lol safe sex is very important!🙏🏽 I practiced safe sex for maybe %25 of my sexual life. I just got lucky/karma. I can't have children without medical medicine. But I didn't know that till after I got married (22). So I was risking it %75 of the time. 17yrs-22yrs is a big period of time to not use protection. I don't think I could handle being a teen mom. Like I said I got lucky but the same time karma. Please practice safe sex if you do have sex! Good luck hun❤❤❤
I felt the same way at 16. All my friends were active and I wasn’t. I waited till my freshman year of college. I dated a football player 🥰 Absolutely no regrets bc I was ready. I’ll just say...it’s not like opening Pandora’s box. The power to choose when and who is powerful. Never forget that! Btw I’m 34 now 🤓
Wait til marriage you will feel very bad if you don't
@@heatsann4456 1. Not everyone thinks marriage is important
2. Not everyone sees virginity as an important thing, I don't even use the word "virgin" to describe myself. I'm just simply someone who hasn't had sex.
3. People have regretted the complete opposite. People have waited till marriage, had sex and realised they're not sexually compatible with their partner. Regret can go both ways so it's up to the individual to decide what's best for them.
Sex doesn’t get “better with marriage” it gets better when you have an open communication with your partner. You can wait till your married but that doesn’t mean what so ever that that is gonna be a magical experience. I don’t like when people say well it’ll be so much better when I’m married. Why or who told you that?
Because they've never explored the many exciting facets of sex. You can't really do that with a vanilla virgin. 🤷♀️
@@ArcticZombie There are many many married couples that don't want any Children or any more Children 🤦♀️
ArcticZombie well I believe in abortion. Also that’s why we have protection like birth control and condoms. It’s just the practice of safe sex. It’s not realistic for everyone to abstain from sex. So rather teach people to not even think about having sex or it’s “dangerous” we need to really incorporate safe sex talks and contraceptives in our future generations lives. And not by any means do I think being a virgin is wrong or staying a virgin until marriage is bad or impossible. It just isn’t realist to me or many people. There is nothing wrong to wanting to share yourself with someone before your married or waiting to marriage
Artoria Pendragon well you sound crazy to me so your beliefs hold no grounds to me lmfao
@Artoria Pendragon That's funny because I believe anyone who forces people who don't want children into birthing them, then throwing those children into a situation where they will not experience the love of a parent who wants them and the stability of a healthy home or into a system where they are ignored, abused, and otherwise mistreated is part of a morally corrupt society.
It's a personal choice. I'm only against abstinence only "education".
Yes true, as even married and serious, long term, respecting couples want safe sex!
Amber Kelly I did a whole research paper about abstinence only education and in the areas it’s taught, it actually increases teen pregnancy :/
@@baileybabb2124 I grew up in a small southeast Texas town and they only "taught" abstinence only sex education. I was pregnant at 14 a month after losing my virginity and was married off to the father that was 22. They built a school for teen mothers to take their babies to school with them that I started going to when my son was 6 weeks old. Why they thought that was better than education beats the hell out of me. And that was 1997, the school still stands 3 blocks away from where I live now. I'm a grandma at 36 years old from the son I had at 14. He was almost 20 when he his so son. I also have a 17 year old son and 14 year old daughter. I've taken it upon myself to be open with them because still to this day, they only "teach" abstinence only. No changes at all in 22 years and it's damn shame. So I teach my own kids. The cycle ends with me. Condoms and birth control. And a lot open conversation. Something my folks didn't do. I'll be damned if my daughter will be a child bride like I was!!! Or if my son's will knock a teenage girl up. Very open line of communication in my household...without it being awkward
@@amberkelly8055 You're doing amazing work. I am only 20 now and cannot imagine having a kid, much less at 14. I am glad there are mothers like you that are willing to have open communication. It is the key to safe practices, less teen pregnancies, and awareness. I grew up in a southern town myself and they had abstinence-only education. I had one teacher that spoke about condoms and birth control even though she wasn't supposed to and I honestly think she might have stopped a few pregnancies based on some of the conversations I overheard. Keep up the good work breaking the cycle, one day it will hopefully be gone for good.
@@amberkelly8055 I can't imagine what that must've all been like. You're a badass and seem like a really good mom, even though it's been far from easy. You're doing great XXX
I'm more concerned with the negative connotations of staying abstinent, especially with people who are religious. Like you are only ""good" or "worthy" if you wait until marriage to have sex. It seems like regardless if they want to have sex or not the feeling of shame is what fuels the decision to stay abstinent more than anything else.
Not really that's for those who don't know better. Waiting for Marriage is another way of saying wait for someone that worth your time. There's more things to do in life than just have sex.....and that's if you even have the energy to do it with how tiring and hard life can be as an adult. Don't waist your time with people who aren't worth your time and will cause unneeded heart ache & stress, when you still have other things to do.
waiting can be a beautiful thing. For a man to stand with his bride on their wedding day, and for her to know that this man before her, having waited 20 something years to share his entire self with her, commits himself to her, all for her and her alone. Waiting, or re-commiting to waiting, is realizing how very precious and special his or her body is, and that this is a gift not to be given out so easy because it's so special. Imagine how difficult it is to wait, especially in the world live in today, crazy difficult! I hope that "waiting for marriage" is not a shameful topic, however I know that can be put that way, and that makes me sad. To shame someone into doing anything is the worst and very unhealthy. Waiting can be a very beautiful thing.
@Matthew Garay Fair, personal experience is not universal by any means. I disagree that virginity *itself* is a shaming thing... but I definately know that it can be used as a way of shaming others. I don't understand what you say "virginity is confirmed as not real", because how then is something real? Of course not all practice virginity, but that does not overlook that it does exist for some who choose it. Of course, a person is free to go ahead and make decisions, abosolutly. I think that's a really important part, to think and choose what is best. I think however, that virginity, although a definately difficult road to take, does have major benefits and anyone can take that road, anytime!
@Matthew Garay in another way, someone who does not have values that align with virginity, that is their choice. Of course I'll be friends with that person and want the best for 'em, but I'll just disagree with that person in that regard.
@@rachelw3533 I’m not sure if they deleted their comment but I don’t see it. I’ll answer you though. Virginity isn’t real because it’s just a social construct. There’s no word that means “I haven’t broken a bone” or “I haven’t gotten a tattoo” you just simply state those things. Virginity was made up as a way to shame women for having sex with more than one man. I know that it’s weird to think about because it’s so ingrained in our society that it’s a real thing but it’s just a fancy term for “I haven’t had sex”. It shouldn’t matter to anyone whether or not someone else has had sex unless you speaking in the sense of “is it possible you have an std” because that’s the only time it’s necessary to ask that question. Every other time it’s just out of curiosity or the want to shame that person
Where you are my fellow V card holder? Plus, we totally gonna ignore the fact that Jessica lost her virginity when she was *14 years old* to a *18 years old* dude.
Candace Juan ikr I was like, isn’t anyone gonna say something??
I was like “ wth that’s rape sis”
Why did I have to scroll down so far to see this wtf that's staturtory rape.
I think that we’ve all seen this happen far too many times to single this particular scenario out. We all know that it’s wrong, but half of my friends lost their virginity in a similar situation
Age of consent in Japan is 13 maybe they went there 🤣 but tbh if they're both good with it and are safe don't care
I will never understand why adults care about other adults sex lives... 😩✌
XO OX Suppose curiosity
@@laurenmclellan8829 Curiosity is one thing. A ot of people seem judgemental though..
Something something puritan morality leaves lasting impressions on our culture at large, especially when so many of us have carried on being Christians.
XO OX & ur watching this? 🧐🧐
@@bethdwyer7518 Im watching out of curiosity. I'm not here to judge people's sex lives. They can do whatever they want. And my orginal comment isn't about this video in particular.
To me it isn’t such a big deal. I’m a virgin, but if you want to have sex with someone then that’s your choice and you shouldn’t feel bad if anyone disagrees. Same goes for if you don’t want it until marriage. My health teacher said: “What goes on in your bed stays in your head.” And to me that’s very true.
Just remembered I am a Hamilton account, so here is another quote from said health teachers: “don’t cheat on your wives, guys”
Alexander Hamilton Thanks, Hamilton
i thought you died , bank man
always "say no to this"
That damn woman mariah
@@melissaosei8924 *Maria and it takes two to tango. Technically it was Hamilton's own fault for not saying no.
I feel like we put too much pressure and attention on sex and virginity. If you lose it great if you don’t that’s great too. As far as the education system goes though we should teach safety and knowledge because even though abstinence is the only way to 100% guarantee not getting an std or pregnant, most people do not choose it. This is proven by the states that teach abstinence only education, but have the highest teen pregnancy rates. Also for the people that want abstinence only education, what do you think is going to happen when that person does decide to have sex but doesn’t have the knowledge about safety, contraceptives, consent, etc.??? Or are you expecting people to just pop out of abstinence knowing everything 😅
@Matthew Garay Sex before marriage is evil.
I still obviously use condoms to prevent stds but my birth control is 99.8% effective. That’s good enough for me😂 I definitely agree though the focus should always always be on safe sex because it’s sex ed. How are you educating people by saying “just don’t do it”
@@Roe97
If you believe in God then you shouldn't use condoms because he's method of birth control is better.
@@masonnix9566 Okay Mason relax
@@masonnix9566 Chill
I used to feel so left out because I’m the only person in my friend group who hasn’t had sex. Some of them used to tell me to go out to a club and just do it. I found that so disgusting when she told me that. I’m a very sentimental person so I want to share that moment with someone who I know and feel safe with. Heck I even had my first kiss a few months ago and honestly, just that altogether felt special to me, it felt right for me and so memorable. When I told that friend of my first kiss, she was jealous because it was one of those movie/picture perfect first kiss. I don’t necessarily want to wait until I’m married, but mostly just when it feels right for me and the other person.
Maybe it's just me, but that seems like a strange thing for a friend to suggest.
M M you’re hanging out with the wrong ppl
Thank you
your 1st kiss or time with doing sex. Is when it become more than that action the connection so strong it form bond between the two. You could go down that club have sex five times but when met the one person trun the act of sex into something more beyond that point, that your will be your first time. Cause up to that point it was only an stepping stone to your real first.
before it just self discovers learning about yourself.
Virgin Gang where you at?😂😩
Okayyy I see y’all...👀🤟🏽🤣
Y’all are awesome thanks for 5.1k likes!!❤️
I here. You is virgin?
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would've liked to see LGBT people in this discussion, considering the cultural conflict with religion and the inherently different definitions of "sex" and "virginity"...I think it would be an interesting perspective to add to the conversation
Lgbt is a sex preference that's all, they are the same as the people in the video.Either you wait or you don't.Just cause someone's GAY doesn't change the circumstances.
Imagine thinking that gay people are inherently different from normal people.
@@lordmew5 they are different, there sex is different what aren't you getting
Inherently ? Wait i'm gay and I'm pretty sure I've got the same definition of "sex" and "virginity" as straight people. I might not do it the exact same way, but the concept is the same. So I'm not sure what your point is actually.
@@angelface101ful that is a difference without a distinction because I like penis in my butt doesn't make it a distinctly different act
Regardless of whatever; married or not, religious or not, you should wait until YOU are ready to take that step. Not until someone tells you you’re ready
Who cares. Just do it when *you're* ready and be sufficiently educated about it. Also, be sexually responsible -get tested, take your necessary precautions, etc.
'I m an adult virgin'
Beat me to it. Also, that tune is in my head now. Nice.
Same here! *Love* over lust!
Four female Ghostbusters?! feMiNisTs aRe TakInG oVER
I can't help but sing it, no matter how hard I try
Good for you. No one wants your Genes boi
jessica reminds me of otis' mum from sex education
Edda Rumpel LMFAO SHE IS PRETTY SIMILAR
100%%%
YES
Edda Rumpel that show >>>>>>>>
I WAS THINKING THE EXACT SAME THING
Having sex before marriage actually made me feel shittier about myself because In the end everybody I did it with I was using and vice versa, there’s actually value in loving someone and caring for them, makes it actually mean something
That’s lust, and everyone goes through it. Controlling it will give you discipline and make you stronger.
Hey there! Your comment was made one year ago... in that time, IFS statistics have shown that people with more sexual partners before marriage are more likely to divorce, be bad parents, and the children of such people are also more likely to cheat. So it's now a scientifically proven fact that pre marital intercourse is bad....
But you can love and care for someone that you're not married to. Think about married couples when they were dating or engaged
@@veronicahaney6005 I absolutely agree , if you truly love that person and care about them it shouldn’t matter
@@veronicahaney6005 caring love and lust are two different things
I think anyone can do whatever they want with their body and sexuality BUT we should defenetly teach safe sex in sex ed. We should talk about how for some people sex is something really meaningfull and because of it, some decide to save it for marriage, and they should not be shame for it. But for other people sex can be something fun, something that is a part of your life that its natural, and we also should not shame that.
this was one of the most mature conversations i’ve heard in this series. props to these people
Nowadays people in 5th grade doing it in bushes
For real
ew fkn gross
Tf in 5th grade I didn't even know what testosterone was
Lol dude wtf why you watching 5th graders
@@dustysdisciples2205 literally child porn...lol
I’m a virgin and to say that I’m pure is honestly hilarious
Saaaameeee:)))
Is sex a purpose in it self in Christian marriage?
Christian marriage life is not based on relationship of two body but on relationship of two characters , two people who are free , special , have full respect , evaluating his human value , important In. Itself, loved in itself not for anything he has , and not for his body , cause person in itself is more percious , more valued - without measuring units - more then anything we have , cause the thing is used , consumed ,played with ، we may dispense with that thing , but person his freedom is respected ، reasoning with him , live with and he is special and unique and indispensable .
In christian marriage every partner love each other for being him as whole entity , love his presence , mentality , ethically ، characteristics , bodily, behavioural and this is the christian marriage but love the other for what he have or for his body it is not original Christian marriage . Sexuality in bible by adel halim
Same hahahahaha
Fr like I’m wilder than my non virgin friends bruh….. virgin is definitely not purity, it can be innocent but def isn’t pure
Ik the mentality of....
I love the way Jessica approaches this topic and she makes it a lot easier to agree with her because of her background and how credible she is in this sort of situation.
I'm 26 and I'm a virgin by choice... girls' choice.
KartoffelHundin 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
praying 4 u
Ahahahaha
Cool 💪🏼 and you're German, like me
yasss!
would have been nice to hear from abstinent people who did it from a non-religious point of view
You would have trouble finding those..
Not really, I know many people who have remained abstinent for non-religious reasons - even as a college student. Statistically, young people on average are actually having less sexual partners and refraining entirely in higher numbers than previous generations. Many people I know feel like they just haven't connected with someone enough yet to sleep with them. Others cite the risks associated such as unplanned pregnancy and STDs. Some also claim that they're just too busy for relationships right now because of immense pressure in school/work to eventually pay off their debts; naturally that'll lead to less sex in general
facts. we definitely exist but people can’t comprehend that some people have non “religious” reasons to not participate.
We exist. I'm atheist but want to save myself for marriage
My reasoning is quite straightforward.
I wouldn’t want a slut to be raising my children.
If I want to be worthy of an honourable woman,
I can’t be screwing everything that moves.
Sex is so exaggerated the best thing about sex is just the fantasy part.
it depends on who you have it with too, it is really good, it might be exagerated but i feel it like, as something normal just as kissing if the 2 people are in a relationship or both agreed to do it safely, i don't really know why it still is a taboo, we just hit 2020 and have old ways to treat stuff that should've changed long ago with sex
@@edgaral As for me it can only be great if there's a communication between partners. Speaking as a man, the woman should be clean and beautiful likewise men should also be clean and handsome.
@@michaelmuiruri3623 so sex is better in fantasies than in real life?
No way, fantasies are worse than sex
Sex zitth your partner than you truly love is probably the best thing, especially the cuddling after
I love the woman with the ponytail. I love how she speaks and presents herself and how she openly shared her life experiences. She seems really cool.
Totes agree! I think she's a compassionate teacher/counsellor too.
that opening was... unexpected.
army 💜
i love Kim Namjoon tooo :(
I am a Christian feminist in her mid-twenties who is saving sex for marriage. For me, it is really empowering and even though I am often shamed for my virginity from other feminists, I am actually proud of it since it has required immense self-control. I love how respectful this discussion was!
katherine m that is wonderful but do you expect your man to be the same way?
ShiShi108 yes, that would be ideal
Gena Holden yes there are, and I view sex as an important one.
katherine m yes sis!!
katherine m this is a very good idea, as there have been numerous studies that point to the fact that women with a high partner count cheat more, divorce more and lose their ability to pair bond. If you want a long lasting marriage, that is one of the best ideas, pair two virgins (the statistics are there to back it up). Don’t listen to the feminists who shamed you for it, they will most likely be divorced cranky crabs in their 40’s, keep doing you.
Bruh I am 13 why am i even here lol
Learning
educate yourself fam u doin great
You're bored
Learning is important
Mate same, what am I doing with life...
0:29 “Entertainment industry”
Why do I feel like he does porn lmao
🤣
honestly I didnt think it could've possibly been anything else xD
There's lots of stuff in the entertainment industry, lightning, effects, PAs, etc.
@@randomnessocity ohh lmao i just thought it was porn
Haha
Please do one on Childfree vs Moms/people who want children
Nicole yessss
I don’t know if that would work cause what are they arguing? Why you should or shouldn’t cause no matter what someone has to have kids and it’s usually the people who want them. How are we supposed to populate the earth if everyone doesn’t want kids?
@@CtrlAltPlant I think it's more about the pressure society is putting on women in that regard. The ted talk "I don't want children - stop telling me I'll change my mind" by Christen Reighter is about this topic and quite enlightening. You can find it here on youtube if you're interested.
that would be awesome
@@mini-mei that sounds interesting, ill check that ted talk out. In my own experience I've never been pressured to have children let alone a boyfriend. Might be different, im in my mid 20s so maybe when im 30 ill hear it more ..? I wonder where people hear this cuz at least to my group of friends, its more improve your career etc.
Born again virgin is one of the best concepts in Jubilee history 😂😂😂
I rolled my eyes at that. There's no such thing. Lol she's just celibate now and that's okay
Yea born again virgin is not a thing. I applaud that she made a commitment to God to wait following her mistake, but I don’t think born again virgin is a legitimate concept
she rededicated herself? its a thing she repented
@@GerryKeenan that's fine but she's not a virgin. You can't be a born again virgin..
Mário Branco Mestre You can be a born again virgin in Christianity, it’s not just a concept that Jubilee made up
Please do one on skin bleaching
@@adonaibaptiste4803 Depends if it's to remove dark spots and blemishes cool. But if it's cause you hate your natural skintone and been indoctrinated by the fair skin beauty standard belief not cool.
Adonai Baptiste I think that it will give an open discussion about it. If we do one on skin bleaching and people talk about their experience with skin bleaching people might not do it because of they watch this. Just because you don’t deem it as “good “doesn’t mean some people don’t view it as bad. People are going to do what they want to do. I’ve actually been researching skin bleaching because I read a book about a black girl talks about it, and it’s crazy how it messes up your melatonin. I want people to see how these people look. Most skin bleachers that strip away a lot of the melatonin don’t look black, and they don’t look like white. I think that it’s information that should be out there. If you choose to do it because people don’t know how damaging it is to the skin.
wiseguy240 Winston That isn’t normal or natural at all, goes against nature and is horrible for your skin.
The idea of middle ground is understanding where other people are coming from, agreeing to disagree, and maybe compromising a little and becoming less harsh in your opinion.
That’s not what people need in way of skin bleaching. Doing harm to your body with harsh chemicals because you want lighter skin isn’t something people should be meeting in the middle on.
I think a better way to frame your request is manipulating your skin tone through extremes like tanning beds, whitening injections, skin bleaching vs using darker/lighter foundations, tanning lotions etc which aren't that harmful, discussions could focus on diverse cultural beauty standards, pressures from respective communities, bullying, misinformed commercials, colourism. self-love, "blackfishing" (which is very trendy nowadays)and the horrific dangers of using these extreme interventions (harsh chemicals etc) because of low-self-esteem. The purpose of the discussion would not be to demean the people that use bleaching but to learn from their experiences and the psychological reasons that drive them to these extremes so we the public can get better educated.
I just discovered this channel like a week ago, and I'm absolutely in love with it. THIS is how you have conversations. It shouldn't be screaming and yelling matches; both sides should be able to present their opinions equally. And I like that neither side is trying to convince the other or sway them in any way, they are simply giving them a look into another mindset.
It's more or less a dead art outside of full set ups like this
@@Zaron_Gaming Depends on the emotional intelligence and how self aware the person is.
@@debbiemoore2747 indeed! :) a rare mix to have these days at least in my experience with observing.
@@Zaron_Gaming Because the majority are linked in to their reptilian brain which says conform, don't question. That is not a criticism of those that do that is merely an observation. Sadly when you follow and don't question and box yourself in to the inevitable comfort zone anything that questions your world view is a threat, as you have probably observed
Rikes raggy
Smart people learn from their experiences. Wise people learn from other people's experiences. I decided to keep away from the drama while I was in high school because I saw how friends lives were ruined.
Abstinence is a personal choice
p e r s o n a l
SO
no, abstinence has no place in sex education.
(EDIT: whether you are chosing to “save yourself” for marriage or choosing to become a dominatrix, its ur choice to do it so but there is no place for it in sex ed. cause I dont think its the content that we should teach to kids/teens.)
I believe that we should encourage the thought that it's more than okay to say no if you don't wanna have sex no matter the reason. If you dont want it, thats it.
Safety, consent, preparation, protection, seeking for help, diseases, pleasure points for both gender, basic biology, not shaming others for their sexual choices or not shaming others for their sexual orientation or gender identification etc. that's what they should teach you in sex ed and NOT abstinence.
I think it’s definitely wrong to say it has no place. You always give them an alternative and let them know it’s okay to be celibate, not just “you can say no”.
This. Abstinence is not a thing in my country. It is never mentioned, not ever. Teaching consent picks up everything when it comes to choice. It's also called sex education and not religious education.
But if kids should have the ability to choose, shouldn't all options be presented? Not in a "you have to be abstinent" way but more of a "there's nothing wrong with being abstinent". I think it would be great to have a curriculum that teaches all about safe sex (and what sex is, because a lot of people seem to think there's things that are "technically not" sex), as well as talking about abstinence and how to handle pressure to have sex if that's not what you want.
yessss
@Matthew Garay what do you mean virginity isn't real? It's the state of not having had sex. If it's used to shame women why do some people make fun of men who are virgins? Kids really shouldn't be having sex at all. But they should be thought about what is and isn't safe, and how to protect themselves if they find themselves in an intimate situation.
Happens with heaps in my country; young couples fall in love(!), want to have sex, but cant because of the local pressure/probable judge/name calling, so they hastily get married to escape from the judging of society, while increasing their expectations about sex to the skies(after all they are going through all this stuff), the night comes, they start having sex, because they were both unexperienced, they cant get what they were expecting, then one of the partners gets sick of it after some time and they got divorced 6-12 months later(tops), or worse, stay married until death with someone they never actually loved in the first place.
Virginity doesnt mean purity, because sex is not a degrading act, its an amazing intimate feeling we choose(or not if thats your thing) to share with the right partner(s)(most of the time anyways).
Really liked the pony tail lady by the way, she is like my opposite gender carbon copy.
terrible take filled to the top with fallacious reasoning.
ABT wonderful take filled to the top with actual realistic reasoning and experience.
@@abt1580 Care to point out where was i fallacious?
ABT its always fun when someone says a comment is fallacious and wrong but dont point out why.
We stan a queen
i hate that they didn’t get even one person in the abstinence group that wasn’t “of the faith”
Sex is such a strong urge for people, that to reject it they need a lot of strength. Abstinence is not something people would do just for the heck of it. That group is very very small.
King_Renn don't know why you put quotes around that phrase but okay 🤷♀️
Yeah, as others have said, it kind of makes sense. Abstinence is a discipline choice. Without a strong reason for discipline, like religion (the strongest source an average person is going to have), there's not much that's going to give them strong motivation AGAINST sex. There are some people like that, yes, but I would guess that a majority of people who choose abstience do so because of religion. It's the only common source of that much discipline in actions.
@@michaelmiky11 "that group" is more then 50%
Sex is sacred
People love to look down on others because of their own views . They should really mind their own business.
@Elijah Gwayumba And yet, all that matters is you respect them. Doesn't matter if you like them or not, what matters is was we all want to be respected in the end.
agree unless it’s harming someone like “i support murder” 💀
I agree, unless we are talking about anti-vaxxers.
I agree, unless we’re talking about humans.
Yesss
This was such a nice episode, why is everybody making fun of and shaming these people? They all actually managed to talk about their opinions and issues without being judgemental or impolite and that was so fascinating to me.
idc it’s ur choice on whether u want to or not. I personally don’t care about waiting for marriage
emily * thanks for sharing girl! Im very happy 😊 you decided to comment this as if people care 😱
xboxfullauto1000 right back at ya 😉
Lmaoo
@@xboxfullauto1000 Its a DISCUSSION video. People in the videos are speaking their views so, so the hell can emily
Getting triggered and jebaited. Chill haha.