Seiko Shogun SBDC007 - Still The BEST!
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- After one year of almost constant use I'm still in love with the Seiko Shogun SBDC007.
I take a close look at my Seiko Prospex Shogun SBDC007 titanium watch with the 6R15 Japanese movement. The secret to this watch is the magical Diashield Titanium which looks like stainless steel but is VERY hard and scratch resistant. The thermal properties of this titanium as well as the light weight (about 105 grams) make this watch exceptionally comfortable on wrist in all conditions. Other specs: 42mm; Thickness 13.3 mm; Lug to lug 50mm; Weight 105g; Signed Crown; 120 click bezel; Drilled lugs; 22mm titanium bracelet.
The watch is now running a few seconds slow each day. I would rather it run fast but it's still well within acceptable time keeping specs for an automatic watch.
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I have to say (as a submariner man) I STILL love the seiko skx series... they are GREAT! Nice to see I am not alone in my love for the seiko divers..... nicely done!
***** I'm really starting to like the Orange Monster...
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@Jacob Ephraim definitely, I've been watching on Flixzone} for since december myself :)
@Jacob Ephraim Yea, I've been watching on flixzone} for years myself :)
I bought this watch after watching your videos. I can now say that you were right. This Seiko is perfect. You really have to wear it to understand. There was one problem: my other watches from my collection no longer have much wrist time!
+Craig Shipp No, it is not. You have to charge it every night. And it is as much a watch as my laptop. Yes, it shows time, and it has a band. I am Apple fan myself, but don't touch my watches :)
Bought it from an Amazon reseller called "muller" from Japan to my door in four days. $1010 shipped. Wife doesn't get it. I love it, it's so comfy. Got the link removal done. Have heard or read that people find that the dial can be "off". Mine is perfect. I heartily endorse your review. When the hardlex gets scratched I will install a sapphire ar. For now perfection!
As am watching your video am wearing my Shogun.Great watch and your video.
I love all my watches but I don't love any of them as dearly as my Shogun. It's like wearing silk but looks so perfectly rough and ready. Best dial and hands of any Seiko.
Craig, great review. I am thinking of purchasing one now based solely off of your candid remarks. I have a Seiko SBDC001 and I absolutely love it. It led me to sell my Seadweller!!
Always been a seiko fan always will. 😉
Me too! I really like the Grand Seiko line: www.craigshipp.com/grandseiko
@@MidAtlanticTV I do too, one of the best
I've had this watch for almost 2 years and very happy with it. Also goes well with different Nato/zulu straps. After warranty I took the back off to adjust the timing a bit( it was running 5-10 sec. slow). I have a watch timegrapher app(Watch Tuner Lite) that helped with the process. Using the app I was able to tell how different watch positions affected the rate. With the watch on my wrist now, the rate is about 3-5 sec. fast. If it gets too far ahead, I just store the watch in the crown down position over night to bring it back. Here is what I found using the app: Crown Up (3-12 sec. slow), Crown Down (65-86 sec. slow), Face Down (6 sec. fast), Face Up (4 sec. slow). Of course temperature and testing environment probably have an effect on these values. Also, no problem with chapter ring alignment.
+Whiz Wheel the lug width is 22 mm - are those nato/zulu straps comfortable, when that wide?
+schwagier Yes, at least it feels fine for me. I guess it all depends on personal preference.
Awesome video! I like the design very much, but how's the Seiko compare to Steinhart or Rolex sub in size?
I got a Steinhart OVM, my only complain is it's too heavy. This Seiko is on my list now. Thanks.
Craig, I am going to back you on the comfort piece. I would like a sapphire upgrade on the crystal. A lovely, sporty AND functional piece.
Thanks Craig, very helpful video. I'm looking to start collecting automatic watches. This looks like a winner to start with. You mentioned your watch runs a little slow. Have you had it regulated?
I purchased the SSC017P1 in the blue accents. This is my second SEIKO. I really would love to have this BAD BOY in my collection, but it's too rich for me. Great time piece and video.
i have a custom skx but that rollie is my dream watch lawl
I bought my GF a Invicta with a similar movement 4r36 (day date) and it ran at 5 sec a day then slowed down to 10 seconds a week now looses 5 a day then only gains 5 a week.... It's crazy unpredictable but really love it cause it hacks n hand winds
Hey Craig,
well, the watch is just great when it comes to accuracy. After 20 days the watch gained 5 seconds. Not that is so accurate by its's own mehanics no matter what, it's all about positioning watch overnight. When wearing the watch it gains time, if positioned with crown down overnight it looses time, about 5 seconds. So, afer about three weeks I'm on +5 sec. Usually I put it with crown up overnight.
Craig, maybe you already tried different positions - crown down/up, dial down/up etc., if not, try to experiment, maybe you will find out how your mechanism functions.
And yes, everything else you said in your reviews is confirmed in everyday use. Watch is great.
Best regards,
manakidis
What about the crystal of the SEIKO ? ... Is it SAPPHIRE or not ?!
Thanks for posting this video, I've been eying a Seiko automatic, I used to own a beautiful Orient automatic GMT but couldn't read the GMT time, my eye sight isn't what it used to be. I like this watch but is a bit out of my price range, any other Seiko you could recommend?
Love this watch
***** bought one! let's see how long it takes to get here from japan!
would love to see you compare the Shogun to the Mido Ocean Star Captain IV Titanium, very close in spec but can be bought for slightly less and has a higher beat count
Craig, just saw an SBDC007 on sale on ebay and they mentioned now having the apple watch (which you also mentioned you bought). Curious if this is you selling? Say it isn't so! I've been on the fence for awhile and have probably watched your video a dozen times. Thanks!
Craig Shipp - this has to be a joke right?
My 12 year old Seiko runs a bit fast. I agree with you in that I can live with that, but I would have it regulated if it was slow.
The best watch is the one I can afford. So I am happy with my Seiko5 SNK805K2 that I bought 2 years ago and started wearing 3 weeks ago. I have a small wrist (apprx. 6.5") so anything big can not fit on my wrist.
Video is spot on. Couldn't agree with you more!
I added a leather band to it and it stands out!!
Interesting. Also see www.craigshipp.com/grandseiko
Would you get a Grand Seiko? I love mine to death, the detail is incredible.
seiko astron / citizen satellite wave is the perfect watch (so far) bcuz GPS & Solar accurate time every time.
I like that seiko shogun,does it have a smaller bezel?42mm above is to big for me for i have a small wrist.thanks.
Can you recommend a nice dive watch in shogun's price range or below?
Hello Craig,
your previous video and many other reviews that I read just made my decision much easier to get this great watch. Today I received it, and it is not so easy to get one in Europe. And yes, it's a great watch and the only thing I have to do is to get bracelet adjusted. I hope a watchmaker will know how to do it.
***** Ok, hope everything will go well. Thanks.
***** Everything went ok, the guy just knew what to do. This is my first metal band, so I have to get used to it a bit.
Oh yes, it's a nice looking watch. Thanks Craig once again for your last year review.
***** Yes, great to wear and it's obviously very well made. I wonder how much this watch would cost if it was made in Switzerland or Germany. I guess it would double the price. Clasp is centered underside of the wrist.
***** My is 1-2 sec. slow so far. I don't care about that. I usually put it 30-60 sec ahead if it runs slow or 30-60 behind if it runs fast, so actually it's "gaining" accuracy in the coming weeks.
***** That is true. I love the accuracy, but mechanical watches are just not meant to be that precise. Not long ago I was considering so called einzeiger watch, that is with one hand form Meister Singer, but I'm not ready yet, you can easily go wrong for a minute. Some people say that with einzeiger watch perception of time becomes more relaxed.
But did you know that there are mechanical watches that can be regulated to be more precise than quartz watches. Search for Erwin Sattler and his precision pendulum clocks, it's unbelievable. (sorry for the off-topic)
I'm considering this watch but what's holding me back for the moment is the fake multi-piece link looking bracelet, doesn't that annoy you? It should have been real multi-piece links instead of single links at this price. I wunder why they decided to go with this.
Can't believe u sold ur watch for an Apple Watch... That's like selling your 69 mustang for the new Prius.
I also have no idea how their watches don't scratch. I have a grand seiko high beat that has the best zaratsu katana polishing and it just doesn't scratch!! Never seen something like that before.
Hi Craig, i am very much interested in getting one for myself. only concern i have is that i have a pretty small wrist 6.5". could you tell me what is measurement from lug to lug of this watch?
***** Thanks for such a quick response. Does the Steinhart 'GMT Ocean 1 blue red' has the same measurement? in your opinion, what's the best sports/diver watch i can get that's small enough for my size and close to the comfortable level that this seiko shogun offers?
I've been really enamored with the below Seiko, any opinion on it (looking at it on Amazon)?
Men's Seiko 5 Sports Automatic Atlas Diver Blue Dial
Craig, apparently you can open the case back and adjust it to make it faster.
I'm going to buy Seiko Men's SNE107 Stainless Steel Watch ,but i doubt it's not original,because of price
Could you please give me some advice,how to make out Original from Replica ?
Thanks in advance.
Love this watch but Seiko needs to get their quality control straight. I had to return mine because the dial and chapter ring were not lined up perfectly which is a very common issue with this piece.
***** When did you buy it and where did you buy it from? I might consider getting another if I can get a good one.
***** Thank you, I just contracted them, hopefully they bear good news.. You don't happen to work for Seiko do you? You really sold many people on this watch.
***** Just checked your site and watched your about me video. Looks like you were wearing your Rolex. Cool stuff.
In your original video of this watch it was running about 5 seconds per day fast, right? Now, a year later it's 5 seconds per day slow? Hmmm. That's not very impressive performance, in my opinion.
***** Yes. Let's hope so. Have you ever calibrated an automatic watch yourself?
What do you think of the new Zimbe Shogun?
Very interesting and informative videos on the Seiko SBDC007. It really makes me think of getting one. I would like you to please comment and explain what the shoppinginjapan website says about it: (Manufacturer Note : The chapter ring and index & bezel index and face index not being aligned perfectly). I think a couple of others here on your videos of this watch have made a similar comment. Can you please help me by clearing this issue up?
***** Your answer does not address my question at all. There is some issue here that is both mentioned by a couple of people commenting on videos of this model watch AND the website you suggested (shoppinginjapan) also mentions it, as I wrote in my last post to you above. I simply want to fully understand what it is that they are talking about. Can you please explain it to me clearly? Thank you.
What is your wrist size, sir?
have any links to how to remove and reassemble the links? Is pin and collar type...btw, the watch got to me in Fl from Japan in 4 days flat
I have the Shogun but I feel it is not as comfortable as you addressing. I always take it off and put it aside on my desk. I wish I had your Rolex :(
Hmmm it is kinda big specialy i have medium small wrist. I have removed 3 links and some micro adjustment to fit it to my size.
To be honest top of my wrist entirely covered by watch and under neath is entirely covered by clasp. U can only see few links on side :(
But it is OK
It is untimate diver under 1k
Does it have solid end links?
for sure !
Well, it's been 8 years now. Is this still your pick as the best watch ever? I own one and my answer is still yes. I still absolutely love this watch! If Rolex ever makes a Submariner in Titanium I may change my mind.
At that price point YES! I sold mine to step up to Grand Seiko but that's a lot more $$ - www.craigshipp.com/grandseiko
I noticed that a lot of people that absolutely loved this watch when it first came out, eventually sold it off. So it comes as no surprise that you no longer have yours. It's a Seiko so of course it had it's shortfalls. I still love the watch and have no plans on getting rid of mine. I own two now! I bought the newer version with the bi color bezel. I noticed they recently released three new Cave Diver editions with textured colored dials. I still think it's a very nice watch. I'm a huge fan of Titanium!
@@sinjinadams2862 I sold mine to step up to the SBGA231 which is also titanium www.craigshipp.com/grandseiko
I like this watch but now it's hard to find.
yes your video is really nice and i watched it few times already. i saw the new model but i think the old 007 model looks much better..
Jeff - you sold your Shogun for an Apple watch! What were you thinking?!?!
Just read your comment. Did he really do that, sell a real watch for an Apple 'watch'?? Haha! If that is true then the only reason I could think of that he would do such a thing, is that old age really got to him badly. If not, then maybe he must've bumped his head or just going senile slowly.
+Craig Shipp No matter amazing it is, it will never equal an automatic watch like this one, or most others. NEVER! To sell all automatic watches due to an Apple watch is, I'm sorry, sheer insanity!!
Sounds like your getting some good bang for buck here.
Should I buy the Shogun or the Longines Hydroconquest ?
Thanks!
what is your wrist size?
ceramic bazel or not ?
How much is that watch?
can the straps be tightened when you wear them in case if it's loose on the wrist?
***** I ordered the prospex SSC007, i'm guessing it can be adjusted, too? www.amazon.com/Seiko-SSC007-Stainless-Steel-Bracelet/dp/B005XDDSQM/ref=swr_wa_1_ses
+Craig Shipp thanks. and I have a question about removing metal straps and using other straps to compliment the outfit. how hard is it to change them? and do you recommend any cheap/good design strap brand that makes leather and plastic.
If you weren't 700 years old, you'd wear a frogman. Those are actually accurate
Always makes me laugh when i read the comments and people recon its better than a rolex ive owned a seadweller for 35 years and several high end seikos my rolex is worth 20x plus what i paid my seikos not even half probably wear it out then replace with a new one and i wore my rolex every day for 25 years im a builder so no easy life.
seiko has better value for money,i respect rolex...but if you get a hammer any watch that you hit can break easily...so not big deal for me to get a rolex sub for 7-9000$,there are many cheap seikos that people own it over 30-40 years (grandfather,father etc...)and the watch is in great condition so i disagree with you.I say again rolex has really great quality but it still a watch,that when you hit it it will scratch when you hit it bad you can break glass and the glass for rolex to change it costs 800$ :-)
Best craig shipp you say this watch is stil the best of the best inhave read a comment you say the apple watch is the best of the best. I have intrest to buy this watch because of the durability the only thing i hate is the service of a automatic watch how you do the service for this watches
+Craig Shipp how many years before you serviced the watch from new to the first service, and when you serviced how much it wil cost . Thank you so much friend greetings from cheese country Netherlands
Of course, there is no perfect watch. Watch enthusiasts have different criteria that are important to them, as well as different tastes.
What you should have said is that this is the best watch FOR YOU.
***** That's a perfect illustration of my initial comment. Now, it seems, the Apple Watch is "the perfect watch"-for you. Personally, I would never own one.
When watch reviewers, such as yourself, flip-flop so whimsically and easily concerning their favorite watches, it makes it hard to take your recommendations and watch analysis seriously.
What will be your "best watch ever" be tomorrow?
***** I don't appreciate your tone or your insinuations. The reason I wouldn't ever have an Apple Watch has nothing to do with activity or productivity.
Many of you "watch enthusiasts" are like spoiled children saying "Gimmee, gimmee, gimmee" to every shiny new thing that comes along, while disposing of lasting, quality pieces in favor of the "fad-of-the-day". I abhor that mentality.
Do you really think your Apple Watch will be worth a fifth of what it cost you 2-3 years from now? I seriously doubt it.
Yet I could get about 75-80%, perhaps more, of the original purchase price on a 5-year-old Rolex any day of the week in practically any country in the world. Get it?
***** Well, if you think owning and enjoying a fine timepiece is equivalent to acquiring a tool like a hammer or screwdriver, then you really have no clue. Perhaps you should review hardware instead of watches, and save a lot of money by purchasing a Timex. After all, "the job" is telling time accurately, right? A Timex quartz will do that better than almost any fine automatic.
***** Yeah, the funny thing is, you've proven my points at every turn. I've wasted enough time with your absurdities. Go away now and play with your fantabulous, though soon to be obsolete, Apple Watch-at least until you get your Timex.
***** HaHaHaHa! That's cool. Enjoy!
Why would you sell that shogun for the apple watch?!! Lol completely two different watches. Weird
Craig Shipp if you said that apple watch is the best of the best so that the shogun is not the best watch ever anymore? i thought ever mean forever 😅
This watch is better than the Rolex Submariner without the hype and expense.
MrStoneycool69
Sorry, but that's a ridiculous statement, and that's coming from an owner of both. I love my Shogun, and all my other Seiko divers, but to say it's better than the Submariner is just not true. I will say my Submariner gets worn less than my Seikos, and I probably actually even like my Seikos better lately, but the quality and tolerances of the Rolex are light years ahead.
Jeff Swing
Proof of the pudding you wearing Seiko more often. But if the Rolex is 5-10 times the price and you're not wearing it often, the jokes on you for wasting your money sucker.
I do prefer wearing my Seikos, I find them more interesting, and have considered selling the Sub. But that doesn't make Seikos "better". Quality wise there is no comparison. Certainly Seikos offer better value. I guess better is subjective, my only point was that blanket statements that say a Seiko is better than a Rolex are just silly. Call me what you like and continue to be a Rolex hater, that's cool.
Jeff Swing
If people want to pay thousands of dollars to some old fucks that get around a board room table in Switzerland, to discuss their pension plans on the price of watches it's their loss.
+MrStoneycool69 How so, dude? Exactly how is it better than an 116610? Better bracelet? Better movement? How? Do you have anything that isn't purely anecdotal to back your claim? Look, I get it. I even told myself the very same thing for many years about some of my orient and Seiko models... Now I own an 116600 and while I certainly appreciate watches at each end of the spectrum -- still owning an Alpinist SARB017 with this same movement (which i will never part with -- i can honestly say that your statement, just as I used to make before, is not based on facts, can be easily disproven, and is a downright lie we tell ourselves when for one reason or another we can't or are just (justifiably so) not willing to shell so much money for a damn watch. Is this a good watch? Yes it is; just like the Sumo and MarineMaster. Are Rolex watches overpriced? Hell yes! Are they the best watches in the world? Certainly not! Are there watches as good or perhaps better than a sub at a fraction of its cost? Of course! Is this one of them? Hell no!
IMHO any clock can be considered the best, if it does not have at least sapphire crystal!
what i like most about this watch is the main construction material "titanium"
but the Curved Hardlex crystal...
digging into your skin, you got it too tight guy
Titanium? No thank you I like HEFT.
that gold rolex way better
And my gold GS is even better! www.craigshipp.com/grandseiko
In my opinion, it's too big.
***** No, I've never worn one, but I don't like a watch that caches a sleeve cuff. Although, I would like scratch resistance.
i do not agree with you.
Seiko Sportura SPC135P1 Review
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Yes watch has soild links and very nice deployemnt clasp
***** every chronogrpah should have a 12hr chronograph or its pretty useless, if its automatic a Valjoux 7750 or if it s quartz a Ronda 5030D
+Richard Stevens Every pocket watch ought to have a chain to attach it to one's vest pocket... What is the relevance of your comment?
seiko copied the rolex submariner. need i say more........
Have you ever held one or tried it on?
Frankly, this is an idiotic review. Yes, it's a nice watch, but the best watch ever made? Utterly ridiculous comment. The band, for one thing is hideous and the movement is rank average. Still, it gets you hits I guess, which is presumably your objective.
Considering the price it is a very good watch already. Its not like steinhart or whatever bullshit watches bro
The Rolex looks like a womens watch..
Is probably the smaller size which used to be normal years ago. I have a 20 year old mens watch which looks weird now on my wrist. Looked normal when I bought it.
Your rolex is fake.