Got both. Both aren't step downs from a more premium model. The design of these watches can stand on their own. The review is on-the-spot on all aspects. I'm just concerned about the Titanium. It does scratch a lot easier though. I still have to find out how to restore the finish on my other titanium watch.
Thanks for that - yeah I do have my worries about the titanium despite what Seiko claim about that Dia-Shield magic. Having said that though, this piece is holding up pretty darn well, so it looks like it's not just purely marketing...!
Thanks for a great and useful comparison video , I have to say I like your relaxed presentation , I like the fact you are very natural and don't feel the need to shout
One month ago I bought the SBDC029 SEIKO Shogun Titanium for 900 $. This is my first automatic watch and I have been wearing it every day. I love this piece of art
I am happy to see you make this comparison video. As your final tally shows, the phrase "difference without a distinction" comes to mind. The base material, bezel font and crown placement are details where one might have a reasonable preference but the biggest differentiator is price vs value. Another interesting head to head might be between the Shogun and the -051 or -063. Similarly priced and engined the latter have sapphire and milled clasps that I find appealing but the average man on the street probably couldn't tell apart without a roadmap. I've been feeling an itch to acquire a blue faced TransOcean -047. However, I don't give my Kinetic SUN019 enough wrist time as is. Both have sapphire and milled clasps but the 2X price difference gives me pause, though there is quite a bit of aesthetic difference. Titanium is famous for being extremely harder than steel on the tooling to $hape it. Zippo made a solid titanium lighter more than a decade ago and I note never since. The Ebay prices for that model are crazily stratospheric. No one makes titanium pistols or other firearms that I am aware of where the weight reduction would be a huge selling point. Oddly, I perceive my titanium watches as feeling insubstantial although my head knows better. My wrist must need the workout. Heh.
Thanks for that - some great points you make. My sense is indeed that it is the difficulty in working and fashioning titanium (and not the base cost of the metal) that makes it more costly. Well, if one of those 62Mas models comes across my hands I will aim to do a comparison!
I was happy to see you kill the Shogun with the value category. I like the watch but titanium isn't an expensive material, regardless of what watch companies tell us.
Thanks for that - yeah I figure it's not expensive, I think it's to do with how it's more difficult to work and fashion... but nonetheless I think the value takes a knock for that.
The Sumo with the rather larger bezel numbering kills it for me, i can't get past that as i see it as a somewhat childish looking. The Shogun does feel and look great after wearing it for about 7 months now. But the Sumo is obviously good value for money. The 053 really looks killer, i'm going to try one in Japan soon. Hopefully it won't wear to large. Keep up the good work.
Nice comparison Ivan. I love the blue of that Sumo. With that movement and finishing they are pretty good value really. The Shogun is also a nice piece and has a point of difference being titanium. Very close... 👍
I had already decided on the Shogun and had some on my eBay watch-list. I definitely prefer Titanium, and have several. However, the Sumo case seems so wearable, a work of art. So I just searched Seiko stores on Google maps. Gotta try them on in person. Low blow to take a point away from the Sumo you have for being blue, surely there's a black Sumo!?
All the best - it is worth trying on in person. As for the point difference... I can't remember the details now but pretty sure a black one would still have gotten the same mark.
Wish the Shogun was more reasonably priced. It would've been a no brainer for me since I prefer titanium to steel by a large margin. But double the price of the Sumo is a little too much.
I think shogun would match for dress up watch, so in the name of subjectivity, i would give 9 for shogun design, 5 for sumo and i would do the same for their factor x. My final result would be 81 to 74 for shogun.
Thank you for that... I think that's fair enough, as in the end there is subjectivity in these markings and no absolute right or wrong answers. It's the discussion I enjoy and it's good that this has generated plenty :)
Sooo if you had chosen the black Sumo instead of the Blumo it would have tied or even won the comparison ? I've just never been drawn to the Shogun at all really. The Sumo (to me) is very unique and given the rather large price difference is just a better piece. My only issue with the Sumo is it's size is on the extreme limit of wearability for my wrist size.
Thanks for the comment... even if it was the black Sumo model the Shogun would still edge ahead on the versatility, only 1 point in it there after all.
A most enjoyable review - thank you. I have been looking at both models recently so your very fair overview was most 'timely'! Nice to see you steadily nudging towards achieving 10k subscribers too! Best wishes - snack.
Great video. You are paying almost double for the Shogun, which has the same movement and the same crystal. Your paying a huge premium for the titanium. There are more affordable titanium watches, such as the Steinhart Ocean 500, which has a Sapphire crystal, a display caseback with sapphire, an ETA 2824-2, and 500m wr for $564 US.
Wow awesome comparison on both of these amazing watches . I am bias like you owning the Blumo so I may have added points more to the Sumo. However I will say this the shogun is outstanding, just wish it was made in stainless steel. I think if Seiko had made a stainless steel version of the shogun as well as titanium I would of been all over it . Again own the Blumo and my favorite by far but a shogun in stainless steel would definitely be a winner for me 👍🏻
Thanks for that Joseph - do you prefer steel because of the ease that Titanium scratches? The "Dia Shield" does a pretty good job of protecting I think... so far so good! :)
Perth WAtch no it’s actually the weight of titanium being to light in weight. I like the feel of stainless steel because I actually like the heft of a watch . I’ve tried on titanium watches before and it just doesn’t appeal to me.
Ah I see, that's interesting... one of the appeals of watches like this for me is that it looks hefty but is lighter than it looks, a nice illusion of sorts! :)
I have both and the shogun has got more wrist time because it looks better and wears lighter. Sumo has that ugly big font on the bezel insert and I think the 20mm bracelet is too big for its huge case. My MM300 case is smaller than sumo case. I don't want to mod this sumo because I'm afraid it's going to decrease its value and I wan't a watch that looks good stock, so I'm probably going to sell it.
Thanks for sharing that Eddie... well personally I would very likely do the same as you, and would wear the Shogun far more than then Sumo for the same reasons.
Ive had both, faults with both but the shoguns bezel action was shocking and at the beach sand got in there very easy i’d buy the sumo before shogun at the price
Perth WAtch sand jammed it up, very tinny sounding too, ive had over 15 JDM model seikos and been happy with quality control on all, but the shogun was my biggest disappointment accuracy, hardlex scratched so easy and bracelet wasn’t comfy but everyone has there likes and dislikes thats what makes watches interesting
I think sand getting under a dive bezel can affect even the highest end of dive watches, but I guess you're saying that this is worse than expected. Curious to hear about the Hardlex being easy to scratch... do you mean this Hardlex was worse than those on other Seiko models?
Perth WAtch yes my other ones skx, monster,sumo and turtle never a problem only one i marked was the shogun, I know alot of people love this watch and the lightness is great but felt i was happier with the cheaper seiko’s so sold it.
Danang Kurniawan They won't. Saphire is more scratch resistant but it's more likely to break then hardlex. If you go diving and scratch your watch nobody cares. But if the glass breaks your watch is fucked. ( I know that most people dont dive with these watches)
Accuracy was stated in the initial reviews - check out the links to find out. The Shogun runs +3spd and it's the one I own, so naturally the one I like :) What issues are you referring to?
Finishing issues do not have to be found "while using", you should notice them from the start (and in the video). The Shogun bezel on mine is a bit loose (like I said), the Sumo bezel is just nice.
The Sumo seems to be a bargain, but on looks alone, I love the Shogun, it’s proportions are lovely and I think I’d find the Sumo just too bulky and heavy. It seems a shame that Seiko have decided to build a watch with a case of 44mm and then put 20mm band on it, which is very rare for a Seiko diver. Change the cheap looking graphics on the bezel( and use tougher material, like sapphire/ pvd)make the lug width 22mm and use the hands off the monster/ Shogun, (not bothered with sapphire crystal) and you have unbeatable diver for little extra cost......I’d buy one of each colour!
Thanks for a thoughtful comment - good points about the proportions, I fully agree that the Shogun is just such a well balanced watch, that's really part of what attracted me! Those potential changes to the Sumo I also think would improve it for me... but then, it wouldn't be a Sumo anymore :)
hi 5 years later I have to say something, in my opinion steal watches are ones with better durability, some how titanium watches I have they are getting with time layer of oxidation and this is very easy to scratch even with your nail and looks very ugly, so less weared titanium watches looks more bitten than steal ones, atleast in my collection
Titanium is not more durable then stainless steel. The only advantage Titanium has is that it is lighter. Titanium will scratch easier then stainless steel. Nice review.
I just go by facts and not opinion here, mate - watch titanium is stronger than watch steel. That is fact. It is also just as (if not more) corrosion resistant.
@@PerthWAtch If you do a little more research you will find that titanium does indeed scratch easier and show the scratches more due to its colour. Not a huge difference but still the reason to go titanium would be for weight savings and nothing more. Yes it is more corrosion resistant then stainless steel but that being said I have never had a stainless steel watch with rust issues.
I think it’s more than just about the weight savings. I’ve done so much research I nearly threw up. If you do a bit more research you will understand that strength and hardness are two different physical properties - I never said titanium is harder, but it IS stronger.
@@PerthWAtch I work in the automotive industry and understand all the advantages and disadvantages of metals like mild steel, high strength steel, boron, titanium, aluminium etc. They all have advantages and disadvantages. For me personally I would not be willing to pay extra for a lighter watch but I sure others will. I hope you don’t feel I am trying to undermine what you are saying in your video, I very much enjoy your channel.
Hi, exat my problem now to decide me. Not quite the same, as sumo model comes the new green Hulk in the decision. In the ranking she would be superior to the shogun because of the new 6r35 movement and Saphire. Maby I hang on a littlebit more to the Hulk, because I'm afraid that the Shogun not shines like a Stainless Steel. In Stainless Steel it would be no question.. Shogun. What a serious hard decision. So long Steppe
Hm... These are two Seiko watches that didn't grow on me for the longest time. However, with time the Sumo started to grow on me in the last couple of months. And with the newest release of the Sumo Gen3 with the 6R35 at Baselworld I got interested again. In my search I stumbled upon the Jade or Emerald Sumo SZSC004. That thing just *POPS* - incredible presence! I got a good deal and that watch is on its way to me right now. The newest Gen3 with all the new bells and whistles doesn't interest me the slightest with the thinner bezel numerals... really boring watch. The green version SPB103 is especially boring with that "forest robin hood old man bavarian lederhosen green" lol. The SZSC004 is a totally different configuration of green and emerald that like I said pops like nothing elese I have seen for a long time. And the Shogun is still as boring as boring can be.
Same here. Initially, the Sumo looked a bit odd to me. But it’s design has won me over now. Since a couple of days I am the owner of a 2nd gen SBDC069 “blue coral” Sumo, It is a JDM model, and it is easily the most stunning watch I ever owned. Also, the Sumo case is very comfortable, apart from the weight, you forget it is around your wrist. The design is pure genius.
That's curious... I've never ever heard this on an animal video, but maybe I don't consume enough of that content! The music is freeware, available from any number of sources. Guess you can mute that bit!
I'm hoping to mod my Shogun soon. I have ordered a AR Blue tint sapphire and I heard lumed bezel will be available soon. lcbistore.com crystaltimes.net
Cant agree with the versatility ivan the scores should b the other way round. The blumo could easily second as dress watch. Ps didnt like that ch***y comment from one of your viewers recently. Alsheff
Hmm which comment was that one? Honestly, I do have my fair share of trolls here... The scores are just my view... and I do not for a second think that it's in anyone's best interest to take them for gospel :)
Who wants a Seiko watch like the Shogun that looks like a Steinhart or any other Rolex homage ?...I rather have the Sumo for half the price that have an original design, same movement, Saratsu polishing
Answer: I do ;) You can call it a Sub homage but then you'd argue that every dive watch with 3 hands and a rotating bezel is a Sub homage. PS. It's Zaratsu, and pretty sure the Sumo does not have that. PPS. The Shogun has the bootiful Dia-Shield on titanium lustre, in itself almost worth the price ;)
Got both. Both aren't step downs from a more premium model. The design of these watches can stand on their own. The review is on-the-spot on all aspects. I'm just concerned about the Titanium. It does scratch a lot easier though. I still have to find out how to restore the finish on my other titanium watch.
Thanks for that - yeah I do have my worries about the titanium despite what Seiko claim about that Dia-Shield magic. Having said that though, this piece is holding up pretty darn well, so it looks like it's not just purely marketing...!
Thanks for a great and useful comparison video , I have to say I like your relaxed presentation , I like the fact you are very natural and don't feel the need to shout
Thanks for that - glad you enjoyed it, and I appreciate the positive feedback :)
One month ago I bought the SBDC029 SEIKO Shogun Titanium for 900 $. This is my first automatic watch and I have been wearing it every day. I love this piece of art
Nice! Well many have said that it decimates their other watches and takes up ALL the wrist time! :)
I am happy to see you make this comparison video. As your final tally shows, the phrase "difference without a distinction" comes to mind. The base material, bezel font and crown placement are details where one might have a reasonable preference but the biggest differentiator is price vs value.
Another interesting head to head might be between the Shogun and the -051 or -063. Similarly priced and engined the latter have sapphire and milled clasps that I find appealing but the average man on the street probably couldn't tell apart without a roadmap.
I've been feeling an itch to acquire a blue faced TransOcean -047. However, I don't give my Kinetic SUN019 enough wrist time as is. Both have sapphire and milled clasps but the 2X price difference gives me pause, though there is quite a bit of aesthetic difference.
Titanium is famous for being extremely harder than steel on the tooling to $hape it. Zippo made a solid titanium lighter more than a decade ago and I note never since. The Ebay prices for that model are crazily stratospheric. No one makes titanium pistols or other firearms that I am aware of where the weight reduction would be a huge selling point. Oddly, I perceive my titanium watches as feeling insubstantial although my head knows better. My wrist must need the workout. Heh.
Thanks for that - some great points you make. My sense is indeed that it is the difficulty in working and fashioning titanium (and not the base cost of the metal) that makes it more costly. Well, if one of those 62Mas models comes across my hands I will aim to do a comparison!
I was happy to see you kill the Shogun with the value category. I like the watch but titanium isn't an expensive material, regardless of what watch companies tell us.
Thanks for that - yeah I figure it's not expensive, I think it's to do with how it's more difficult to work and fashion... but nonetheless I think the value takes a knock for that.
J Rods You're right. I have had a full titanium Pulsar (watch brand) with a sapphire crystal for less than 300 euro.
He has a good point. It’s an honest review. Very interesting comparison.
Sumo is "bang for the back" in comparation with Shogun. Shogun in reality , should not cost more than $ 450 max
The Sumo with the rather larger bezel numbering kills it for me, i can't get past that as i see it as a somewhat childish looking. The Shogun does feel and look great after wearing it for about 7 months now. But the Sumo is obviously good value for money. The 053 really looks killer, i'm going to try one in Japan soon. Hopefully it won't wear to large.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks for that, well said comparative comments, and I would tend to agree. Hope to get an 053 to be able to feature sometime!
I look forward to that review.
You can modify the bezel for smaller numbering pretty easily
Good comparison i like both watches but would pick the shogun as well
Thanks for that Larry - glad you enjoyed the video :)
I like your objective comparison review between those two SEIKOs.
Its like trying to tell apart between two non identical twins !.
Thanks for that. Haha that's a cool analogy! :)
Anytime Perth WAtch ! :-)
Thanks...I love your comparisons. Keep up the great work
Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it :)
Nice comparison Ivan. I love the blue of that Sumo. With that movement and finishing they are pretty good value really. The Shogun is also a nice piece and has a point of difference being titanium. Very close... 👍
Thanks Sam - yeah this was quite a fun comparison to do, and I wasn't sure which would come out on top actually :)
I had already decided on the Shogun and had some on my eBay watch-list. I definitely prefer Titanium, and have several. However, the Sumo case seems so wearable, a work of art. So I just searched Seiko stores on Google maps. Gotta try them on in person. Low blow to take a point away from the Sumo you have for being blue, surely there's a black Sumo!?
All the best - it is worth trying on in person.
As for the point difference... I can't remember the details now but pretty sure a black one would still have gotten the same mark.
Thanks Ivan, I agree, its marginal but Shogun does have the edge. In saying that I just can't justify paying the price for a Shogun
Thanks Bruce - yeah the pricing of the Shogun raises no small number of eyebrows! :)
Sumo for me, love everything about it.
Thanks for that :)
Totally agree I own the Blumo to me my favorite 👍🏻
Wow these spruiking posts are getting very coordinated!
Wish the Shogun was more reasonably priced. It would've been a no brainer for me since I prefer titanium to steel by a large margin. But double the price of the Sumo is a little too much.
I think it’s possibly a lower multiple these days, since the new “better” (more expensive) sumo models came out.
Great comparison! I have both those exact same models. They’re both great watches. I like them both for different reasons.
Thanks for the Christian - glad you enjoyed this comparison, which was a bit tricky to do! :)
I think shogun would match for dress up watch, so in the name of subjectivity, i would give 9 for shogun design, 5 for sumo and i would do the same for their factor x. My final result would be 81 to 74 for shogun.
Thank you for that... I think that's fair enough, as in the end there is subjectivity in these markings and no absolute right or wrong answers. It's the discussion I enjoy and it's good that this has generated plenty :)
Sooo if you had chosen the black Sumo instead of the Blumo it would have tied or even won the comparison ? I've just never been drawn to the Shogun at all really. The Sumo (to me) is very unique and given the rather large price difference is just a better piece. My only issue with the Sumo is it's size is on the extreme limit of wearability for my wrist size.
Thanks for the comment... even if it was the black Sumo model the Shogun would still edge ahead on the versatility, only 1 point in it there after all.
A most enjoyable review - thank you. I have been looking at both models recently so your very fair overview was most 'timely'! Nice to see you steadily nudging towards achieving 10k subscribers too! Best wishes - snack.
Thanks for that bro - haha it seems like rather slow growing this edging toward 10k, but that's probably coz I'm impatient about it :)
Great video. You are paying almost double for the Shogun, which has the same movement and the same crystal. Your paying a huge premium for the titanium.
There are more affordable titanium watches, such as the Steinhart Ocean 500, which has a Sapphire crystal, a display caseback with sapphire, an ETA 2824-2, and 500m wr for $564 US.
Thanks for that - in fact I am planning a comparison between the Shogun and the Steinhart Ocean 500 GMT, keep an eye out for that :)
Thanks. I look forward to that review.
The GMT is about $661 US shipped on pre order
Yep, same quality finishing and materials, but different looking dial and bezel, and of course the (widely considered) better GMT movement.
Wow awesome comparison on both of these amazing watches . I am bias like you owning the Blumo so I may have added points more to the Sumo. However I will say this the shogun is outstanding, just wish it was made in stainless steel. I think if Seiko had made a stainless steel version of the shogun as well as titanium I would of been all over it . Again own the Blumo and my favorite by far but a shogun in stainless steel would definitely be a winner for me 👍🏻
Thanks for that Joseph - do you prefer steel because of the ease that Titanium scratches? The "Dia Shield" does a pretty good job of protecting I think... so far so good! :)
Perth WAtch no it’s actually the weight of titanium being to light in weight. I like the feel of stainless steel because I actually like the heft of a watch . I’ve tried on titanium watches before and it just doesn’t appeal to me.
Ah I see, that's interesting... one of the appeals of watches like this for me is that it looks hefty but is lighter than it looks, a nice illusion of sorts! :)
Perth WAtch absolutely I definitely love the look and design of the shogun for sure 👍🏻
I have both and the shogun has got more wrist time because it looks better and wears lighter. Sumo has that ugly big font on the bezel insert and I think the 20mm bracelet is too big for its huge case. My MM300 case is smaller than sumo case. I don't want to mod this sumo because I'm afraid it's going to decrease its value and I wan't a watch that looks good stock, so I'm probably going to sell it.
Thanks for sharing that Eddie... well personally I would very likely do the same as you, and would wear the Shogun far more than then Sumo for the same reasons.
I prefer the bezel, hands and the 4 o’clock winder on the Sumo.
I don't mind the 4 o'clock crown, although definitely prefer the Shogun hands and bezel myself.
Ive had both, faults with both but the shoguns bezel action was shocking and at the beach sand got in there very easy i’d buy the sumo before shogun at the price
Oh dear, that gives me some pause about the bezel durability of the Shogun. Interestingly another viewer commented that his Shogun bezel is very firm!
Perth WAtch sand jammed it up, very tinny sounding too, ive had over 15 JDM model seikos and been happy with quality control on all, but the shogun was my biggest disappointment accuracy, hardlex scratched so easy and bracelet wasn’t comfy but everyone has there likes and dislikes thats what makes watches interesting
I think sand getting under a dive bezel can affect even the highest end of dive watches, but I guess you're saying that this is worse than expected. Curious to hear about the Hardlex being easy to scratch... do you mean this Hardlex was worse than those on other Seiko models?
Perth WAtch yes my other ones skx, monster,sumo and turtle never a problem only one i marked was the shogun, I know alot of people love this watch and the lightness is great but felt i was happier with the cheaper seiko’s so sold it.
Thanks for the update - you sure have some classics in there!
I hope they'll launch Shogun with saphire in Baselworld 2020
We shall see! :)
Danang Kurniawan They won't. Saphire is more scratch resistant but it's more likely to break then hardlex. If you go diving and scratch your watch nobody cares. But if the glass breaks your watch is fucked. ( I know that most people dont dive with these watches)
What’s the daily accuracy of the both watches?which one is your favourite and any issues while using these watches?
Accuracy was stated in the initial reviews - check out the links to find out. The Shogun runs +3spd and it's the one I own, so naturally the one I like :)
What issues are you referring to?
Perth WAtch bezel and finishing issues
Finishing issues do not have to be found "while using", you should notice them from the start (and in the video).
The Shogun bezel on mine is a bit loose (like I said), the Sumo bezel is just nice.
The Sumo seems to be a bargain, but on looks alone, I love the Shogun, it’s proportions are lovely and I think I’d find the Sumo just too bulky and heavy. It seems a shame that Seiko have decided to build a watch with a case of 44mm and then put 20mm band on it, which is very rare for a Seiko diver. Change the cheap looking graphics on the bezel( and use tougher material, like sapphire/ pvd)make the lug width 22mm and use the hands off the monster/ Shogun, (not bothered with sapphire crystal) and you have unbeatable diver for little extra cost......I’d buy one of each colour!
Thanks for a thoughtful comment - good points about the proportions, I fully agree that the Shogun is just such a well balanced watch, that's really part of what attracted me! Those potential changes to the Sumo I also think would improve it for me... but then, it wouldn't be a Sumo anymore :)
Shogun Every time
:)
hi 5 years later I have to say something, in my opinion steal watches are ones with better durability, some how titanium watches I have they are getting with time layer of oxidation and this is very easy to scratch even with your nail and looks very ugly, so less weared titanium watches looks more bitten than steal ones, atleast in my collection
Worn titanium looks cool and badass.
Steal watches good because they are free 😂😂
point design not agree Sumo more exclusive 7 to 9
English?
Titanium is not more durable then stainless steel. The only advantage Titanium has is that it is lighter. Titanium will scratch easier then stainless steel. Nice review.
I just go by facts and not opinion here, mate - watch titanium is stronger than watch steel. That is fact. It is also just as (if not more) corrosion resistant.
@@PerthWAtch If you do a little more research you will find that titanium does indeed scratch easier and show the scratches more due to its colour. Not a huge difference but still the reason to go titanium would be for weight savings and nothing more. Yes it is more corrosion resistant then stainless steel but that being said I have never had a stainless steel watch with rust issues.
I think it’s more than just about the weight savings.
I’ve done so much research I nearly threw up. If you do a bit more research you will understand that strength and hardness are two different physical properties - I never said titanium is harder, but it IS stronger.
@@PerthWAtch I work in the automotive industry and understand all the advantages and disadvantages of metals like mild steel, high strength steel, boron, titanium, aluminium etc. They all have advantages and disadvantages. For me personally I would not be willing to pay extra for a lighter watch but I sure others will. I hope you don’t feel I am trying to undermine what you are saying in your video, I very much enjoy your channel.
Not at all - thanks for taking the time to comment 👍
Hi, exat my problem now to decide me. Not quite the same, as sumo model comes the new green Hulk in the decision. In the ranking she would be superior to the shogun because of the new 6r35 movement and Saphire. Maby I hang on a littlebit more to the Hulk, because I'm afraid that the Shogun not shines like a Stainless Steel. In Stainless Steel it would be no question.. Shogun.
What a serious hard decision.
So long Steppe
Haha yeah... first world problems! :)
Sumo is "bang for the back" in comparation with Shogun. Shogun in reality , should not cost more than $ 450 max
Thanks for the thought! :)
Hm... These are two Seiko watches that didn't grow on me for the longest time. However, with time the Sumo started to grow on me in the last couple of months. And with the newest release of the Sumo Gen3 with the 6R35 at Baselworld I got interested again. In my search I stumbled upon the Jade or Emerald Sumo SZSC004. That thing just *POPS* - incredible presence! I got a good deal and that watch is on its way to me right now. The newest Gen3 with all the new bells and whistles doesn't interest me the slightest with the thinner bezel numerals... really boring watch. The green version SPB103 is especially boring with that "forest robin hood old man bavarian lederhosen green" lol. The SZSC004 is a totally different configuration of green and emerald that like I said pops like nothing elese I have seen for a long time. And the Shogun is still as boring as boring can be.
BTW in any configuration the Sumo has about 3.14159 times the X-factor of the shogun.
Thanks for sharing your views. That is indeed a good looking Sumo model, and I get what you mean about the newer model lacking oomph.
@@PerthWAtch "Oomph" - yeah that describes it!
Same here.
Initially, the Sumo looked a bit odd to me.
But it’s design has won me over now.
Since a couple of days I am the owner of a 2nd gen SBDC069 “blue coral” Sumo,
It is a JDM model, and it is easily the most stunning watch I ever owned.
Also, the Sumo case is very comfortable, apart from the weight, you forget it is around your wrist.
The design is pure genius.
I hate that music! It is used for 90% of the animal videos on TH-cam. Do they provide music to choose from?
That's curious... I've never ever heard this on an animal video, but maybe I don't consume enough of that content!
The music is freeware, available from any number of sources. Guess you can mute that bit!
@@PerthWAtch Go watch some animal videos. It is everywhere. LOL I like you vids though.
Thanks... I guess it doesn't matter, I just use it for intro.
My Shogun bezel is much more difficult to turn.
Sounds like some QC variability in the bezel tightness to me! Mine is almost too easy to turn...
I'm hoping to mod my Shogun soon. I have ordered a AR Blue tint sapphire and I heard lumed bezel will be available soon.
lcbistore.com
crystaltimes.net
Sound awesome... I'm tempted to look into that myself! :)
Cant agree with the versatility ivan the scores should b the other way round. The blumo could easily second as dress watch. Ps didnt like that ch***y comment from one of your viewers recently. Alsheff
Hmm which comment was that one? Honestly, I do have my fair share of trolls here...
The scores are just my view... and I do not for a second think that it's in anyone's best interest to take them for gospel :)
Who wants a Seiko watch like the Shogun that looks like a Steinhart or any other Rolex homage ?...I rather have the Sumo for half the price that have an original design, same movement, Saratsu polishing
Answer: I do ;)
You can call it a Sub homage but then you'd argue that every dive watch with 3 hands and a rotating bezel is a Sub homage.
PS. It's Zaratsu, and pretty sure the Sumo does not have that.
PPS. The Shogun has the bootiful Dia-Shield on titanium lustre, in itself almost worth the price ;)
Neither...SBDC001 the OG
Too bad it’s not easy to get for good price in good condition now...
@@PerthWAtch Tell me about it. I got a mint one but paid $500. Oh well...I'd do it again if I could