Why the Trail Blazers Have had Success without Anfernee Simons and Deandre Ayton in the Lineup

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  • @mrbababwak4401
    @mrbababwak4401 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    I love seeing so many people watching the podcast 🤘

  • @pinkdifferent5533
    @pinkdifferent5533 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Rob makes everyone around him better

    • @thomasharper2008
      @thomasharper2008 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Toughness example by his play. Rob is Maurice Lucas to Donavan

    • @Matt-lu6so
      @Matt-lu6so 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      💯

  • @pinkdifferent5533
    @pinkdifferent5533 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Because DA doesn't fit the game style. He's crowding the paint. ain't moving and cause no movement on offense. make fake screens, so the ball handler gets stuck and must give him the ball for a mid range. On D, he is too soft and can't protect the rim and too slow to get out of the paint, and if he does, they crossover him easily, so he doesn't fit the defensive identity of the young core either.
    While Big D is a huge defensive asset. he can't get out of the paint fast enough either, but can defend the rim so well that others can cover for that. and on offense when he screens it is noticeable.
    Rob is good both ends and his movement and game style makes everyone better especially Deni and Beneton but also Scoot. If Rob was healthy he should've been the starter.
    About ant it is mostly he can't D well. Both by the way are super talented, I can go same way about that. They just don't fit the game style.

    • @rileymcphee9429
      @rileymcphee9429 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Posting this 10 hours before it airs? Mike's got you on a hook, bro 🪝 🐟

    • @pinkdifferent5533
      @pinkdifferent5533 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @rileymcphee9429 waiting for his analysis

    • @Ripoispo
      @Ripoispo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Defense is better without them

    • @pinkdifferent5533
      @pinkdifferent5533 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Ripoispo wrote about that as well. but that's only part of the reasons.

    • @TheCriminalViolin
      @TheCriminalViolin 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Love how you act as if Ant is not bad offensively too. Because HE IS. He hurts his team offensively. Doesn't matter how many points he scores in the clutch, or how many threes he's hit in his career, it hurts, not helps. Not just a iso-scorer, no, he's a heroball fool who gets tunnelvision and forces up so many bad shots, ignores his teammates more often than not, and forces horrible passes, because he cannot run a offense. He's not a point guard with playmaking skills, he never will be. The team keeps forcing him to play some weird combo guard role, and it AIN'T EVER GONNA WORK. He does NOT have that ability, period.

  • @philtheduck09
    @philtheduck09 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Banton is currently doing more to help the Blazers than Simons.

    • @wyatt-o9g
      @wyatt-o9g 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      id hope so simons isn't playing

    • @jakew1362
      @jakew1362 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@wyatt-o9g ironically, simons does more to help the blazers when he doesn't play.

    • @Matt-lu6so
      @Matt-lu6so 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I can’t disagree with this take.

    • @Matt-lu6so
      @Matt-lu6so 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Right now it’s like the parents are out of town with Ayton and Simons, and the youngins are letting loose. I’m concerned that when that parents get back into town the play is going to go back to the old way. That’s no shade to Ayton or Simons, I’m just saying they don’t contribute to winning basketball.

  • @מקסים-ח4כ
    @מקסים-ח4כ 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    king kong op, he have great future

  • @gregsweeting1561
    @gregsweeting1561 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Favorite comment: "Let's call a spade a spade." Haven't heard that since my grandpa said it circa 1985. Not sure of the origin, but his image jumped clearly into my head when you said it. Thank you? (You had to have known my gp!)

  • @JSPRKL
    @JSPRKL 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Simons doesn't want to be here, plz just trade him. It would be nice to close the book on the Terry Stotts era of letting undersized guards not worry about playing defense. CJM and Simons have fought through about 3 screens combined in their entire NBA careers.

    • @TheCriminalViolin
      @TheCriminalViolin 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      lol. I love the idea they collectively have only managed to figure out how to fight through screens three times. Hilarious, because I love hating on them. They both suck, though Ant more. Ant is a far worse decision maker, is incapable of running a offense, cannot playmake for the life of himself, and unlike CJ, gets tunnel vision nonstop offensively, too, forcing up terrible contested shots in iso at all times. He acts like his teammates aren't even there half the time, and he is the only person on his team on the court. Ant has needed to go for YEARS, much like Dame and CJ needed to get sent out for YEARS before they did. Not wanting him here, it's mutual!

    • @JSPRKL
      @JSPRKL 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheCriminalViolin Thank you! I know that CJ particularly seemed like a great guy and he can fill it up for sure. But he (and Simons of course) just were not made to play defense. I blame Stotts because he did not hold them accountable. Dame was not good on defense either but he at least gave it more effort!

  • @lylewalker5681
    @lylewalker5681 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Really had hopes that Simons was gonna develop into a more dominant player, but we’re likely seeing his peak at this point.
    He could also find himself on a really, really good team and develop as a third option that way. Like Klay.

  • @Hwow
    @Hwow 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Listening to this episode I was visualizing a team building decision tree - with scenarios as a function of time, health, various player development outcomes, contracts, and enter subj. Ayton and Simons, etc. Never-ending but fun stuff…

    • @LockedOnBlazers
      @LockedOnBlazers  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I like it! You can't get everything right when trying to build a team but how you make the decisions is important and each choice impacts the next. Good stuff.

  • @CarlFair
    @CarlFair 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great input and information about the Blazers. They are starting to show the vision they talked about.

  • @talltim9579
    @talltim9579 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    When they make 3s everybody looks good. And the start of the season they were way too passive and deferential. They now are playing much harder. It will be interesting to see how Ant and Ayton play when they get back with this new energy and focus. They do have too many guys that need to play, so they will have to be creative in managing that challenge.

  • @easytoaquatics638
    @easytoaquatics638 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Will allowing Scoot to play and develop with the same 4 guys next to him help them build the team as a whole. He looked like a true pg today with 8 assists before going down.

  • @jubalchaplincomedy
    @jubalchaplincomedy 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sharp and Rob returning made the team better, good point. I like the Sharp Advi and DB combo. It could be interesting to see more of that and WO Simons it makes sense.

  • @dubbatrubba1759
    @dubbatrubba1759 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If Camara can get a good consistent offensive game going, he could be a star in the making. He’s tall, super athletic, good rebounder, blocks and steals shots. He’s already one of the best defensive players in the league.

  • @dasgongbad197
    @dasgongbad197 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am also of the opinion that it is better to trade a guy a year too soon than a year too late. There is a risk with being patient also. Hopefully, Ant can come back and bring his trade value to where it was at the end of last season. Also, in terms of Time Lord. I am sorry to say this, but he is in the trade now column. Too fragile. Let him shine, get what we can from him, and wish him well. Doesn't make me happy, but if we are playing the long game toward greatness, these kinds of sacrifices are needed. Thanks Mike. I particularly enjoyed this thoughtful episode.

  • @noelkbang
    @noelkbang 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I’m on the trade the vets train. They are miserable to watch and defense is 80% effort. If they can’t trade them, they can play off the bench until they decide to buy in and play defense.

    • @TheCriminalViolin
      @TheCriminalViolin 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      All, except perhaps wait on the Rob train. Originally I had zero issues against trading him for the first solid package, but in seeing just how much he's helping and leading our young guys, and no doubt being a phenomenal mentor to Donovan Clingan, I think keeping him around for at least this full season, perhaps one more year would be a smart idea. And his contract is actually surprisingly affordable for what you get from him. Obviously, you still consider any trades that are genuinely high value for the future with him involved, but only part with him if the package is indeed THAT GOOD.

  • @Bass_Bully
    @Bass_Bully 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    When you add Simons, Ayton and Grant in the same lineup the defense is terrible.

    • @wyatt-o9g
      @wyatt-o9g 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      yes but grant is not a bad defender

    • @kirkroyse4705
      @kirkroyse4705 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@wyatt-o9ggrant is not in long term plans sell high

    • @wixse.quisee
      @wixse.quisee 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      And the offense is stagnant. Grant plays like he is Kobe when he should be playing like Aaron Gordon. Simons plays like Poole when he should be playing like Donte. The problem is these guys are not playing within the flow of the game. They force up bad shots instead of playing for good looks. The reason the team look better is because they are generating a healthy diet of good shots. Of course, Sharpe has the skill set to take tough shots but that should be the exception not the standard. Shae is on the trajectory of Shai when he was in his 3rd season. Sharpe is in the process of learning how to control the game and get to his spots whenever he needs to.

    • @wyatt-o9g
      @wyatt-o9g 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kirkroyse4705 agree. whats that gotta do with my comment?

    • @kirkroyse4705
      @kirkroyse4705 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@wyatt-o9g grant is not the future who cares

  • @JGRivard04
    @JGRivard04 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I could see the Magic trading for Simons and the either the Pels or the Nets taking Ayton.

  • @alonelhanati3864
    @alonelhanati3864 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    they reached their peak salary, not hungry anymore. they also believed that since they have the most salary, they should take most shot and minutes.
    and in sports it just does not work like this. the hungry play the best.

  • @doronmatzov1237
    @doronmatzov1237 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Treat them as the 14th and 15th player on the roster, that's what they are right now, we lost on their stock already,let them earn it if they can, if not just ride out their contract.

  • @shanked1734
    @shanked1734 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I absolutely love your TH-cam and Spotify content but I just was listening to locked on Philadelphia and I noticed something that I wish you do on your channel. He takes comments on live takes and reads them in response to them live. Have you ever thought about doing that because I think it would be kind of awesome and different. I have not missed the episode since the beginning of last season. I'm everydayer

  • @jonathanevers8019
    @jonathanevers8019 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I’m old enough to remember the blazers best 4 game stretch in 2022. The starters were Ant, the other CJ, Winslow, Hart, and Nurk. All due respect to these four gentlemen, but I’m not so sure CJ, Winslow, Hart, or Nurk was the engine behind that winning streak. I’m curious what the small sample size crew thinks of that…

    • @mrbababwak4401
      @mrbababwak4401 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Josh hart was a big reason we won those games. He plays with so much heart

    • @jonathanevers8019
      @jonathanevers8019 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ Josh Hart is great. He helped a lot. The engine behind those wins was Ant playing like he was the second coming of Dame

    • @stevepeterson4154
      @stevepeterson4154 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Im also old enough to give you countless examples of simons being clowned at Moda of all places by other guards. Jordan Poole dropped a 50 piece on his head the last season he was a Warrior..​@@jonathanevers8019

  • @FireBladeRR-RSP
    @FireBladeRR-RSP 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    KLING KONG!!!!!!
    🏀⚡️🏀⚡️🏀⚡️

  • @eraypetro
    @eraypetro 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As last night’s game proved, the Blazers defense are much better defensively with them off the court.

  • @rileymcphee9429
    @rileymcphee9429 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    In order to get picks back for trading our vets, we should take some truly horrendous contracts.
    Crazy fun house trade:
    Blazers receive- Bench Simmons, Zach LaVine, Zaire Williams, '25 first (MIL 5-30), '27 first (HOU), '28 first (CHI), '30 first (CHI)
    Nets receive- DeAndre Ayton, Anfernee Simons
    Bulls receive- Dorian Finney Smith, Jerami Grant

    • @LockedOnBlazers
      @LockedOnBlazers  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Ben Simmons is an expiring contract. It’s not really that onerous for Brooklyn at this point. They certainly don’t need to pay to get off it and take back contracts with more years left. They can simply do nothing and be in a more favorable position.

    • @rileymcphee9429
      @rileymcphee9429 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @LockedOnBlazers that's fair. Thought they may value veterans on the team with longer deals, but i guess they're in the same boat we are.

  • @ben9975
    @ben9975 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    appreciate how you addressed the “fake” injury thing. People’s tinfoil hats sitting a little too tight

  • @Port_N-B-Ball
    @Port_N-B-Ball 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bench Ant, the only reason we perceived him as a future star is because his buddy Dame sold this to us. At best he is just ok, at worst he is just average.

  • @nickrichen3009
    @nickrichen3009 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    If Scoot was Nba Starter ready,, Ant would already be gone

    • @mrbababwak4401
      @mrbababwak4401 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I do have to say scoot has improved a lot since last season. He’s going to get there for us

    • @Mbrob
      @Mbrob 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@mrbababwak4401 indeed , but I would have him get some reps up in the g league to develop that jumper . His playmaking has been the upside so far but I still want him to be a threat scoring the ball along with Shae .

    • @kirkroyse4705
      @kirkroyse4705 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Simply not true trading players in nba is not easy

    • @jakew1362
      @jakew1362 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      so much wrong with this. 1) Regardless of what happens to Scoot, Ant is not the answer at PG. 2) We are tanking and not even trying to win, so it doesn't matter how starter ready he is right now. 3)We are winning with him not being starter ready (according to you), while we were losing with Ant being starter ready.

  • @TheCriminalViolin
    @TheCriminalViolin 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I know you hate this Mike, but uh... maybe it's because us "haters" of Ant are right all along, and he HURTS THE TEAM, not helps. A major net negative. Rob is also a much more positively impactful player than DA is, especially with his anchoring ability defensively. As much as I like DA (and love picking on him with my own entire cinematic lore universe behind him being the Menace of the Outback Steakhouse), he really needs to play with more assertiveness, confidence and aggression offensively. His defense this season already seems to be improved, with better focus and effort, but he's not going to match someone like Rob on the latter. Now with Donovan dominating defensively too, it allows the other guys to have even more free flowing offense.

  • @ccthree329
    @ccthree329 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hold onto Ayton, gonna need him on some nights more than we know. 3 big guys with completley different games is an asset. Simons gotta go however and maybe Grant as well. Trade Simons to Boston for a first rounder and Payton Prichard. Its about how to win and some guys doing the dirty non glamour stuff. Prichard will help Scoot develop some good habits and smarter fundementals.

  • @aaronfagernes8020
    @aaronfagernes8020 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Addition by subtraction - normal powell

  • @KerbyLiveFusion
    @KerbyLiveFusion 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Because Simons is a volume shooter with a low FG percentage and a ball hog since he is a shooting guard. Hence, other players miss many opportunities. In contrast, when he's not around, other players get involved and get more touches like Banton, Sharpe, Cling Kong, Time Lord, etc who have a higher FG percentage than him. While Ayton is less athletic than Time Lord and smaller than Cling Kong, that's why those 2 bigs thrive compared to him. Hope the Blazers trade Ayton and Simons and continue their rebuild

  • @JonahPedersen-tz3uk
    @JonahPedersen-tz3uk 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Simons and Ayton needs to go. Empty calories and no leadership, no defense.

    • @leelaor6201
      @leelaor6201 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      and Grant too

    • @JonahPedersen-tz3uk
      @JonahPedersen-tz3uk 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      True but there isn’t the same rush with him.
      DA and Simons are eating minutes that should go to younger guys that have a future with the Blazers.

  • @nate589
    @nate589 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Time to get the max value for these guys and move on.

  • @kunemarcelo8854
    @kunemarcelo8854 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    offense is so stagnant with these two

  • @ryanearley8748
    @ryanearley8748 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you play intelligent defense and the whole team tries hard, you will show up star laden teams who don’t care about games in November. It’s good for the young guys developing their habits but meaningless to the season as a whole.

  • @elivingt
    @elivingt 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ayton is anti spacing, doesn't block for others.
    This means no ball movement, bad looks and low shooting percentage.
    And, he's not a dominant center.

  • @taserman17
    @taserman17 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Both of those players don't have championship intangibles, I like simons but he's a sixth man.

  • @patrickmorehouse4918
    @patrickmorehouse4918 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Because those two don't play defense or team ball

  • @voice2skul
    @voice2skul 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    At least Anfernee Simons actually finishes at the rim, hits 3's, and doesnt turn over the ball. Is anybody actually watching scoot. Cant make a lay-up. terrible 3 point shooter - and attrocious turn-overs every other play. Hey Blazers management - New Policy - Allow Scoot to play until he commits 2 turnovers. Then Bench him rest of game. It's the best way to make him learn. Except he'll be out of game midway through first quarter...

  • @Isaiah187Nilote
    @Isaiah187Nilote 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Banton over Ant. Walker and Reath over Ayton. Cheaper and equally, if not more, effective.

    • @jaminjef
      @jaminjef 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Isn't Walker really too small to play center?

  • @ultimatelocal
    @ultimatelocal 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    it's been 3 games sure...... but many blazers fans that certifiably know ball have been saying for a long time that ant can't be getting starter minutes let alone be the go to guy for a team that's trying to win. he's just not that guy. he doesn't do enough to help us win. also banton.... come on now. i'll pull my hair out if we don't end up handling this right

  • @CheeseWiz84
    @CheeseWiz84 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    DA seems easily tradable but Simons has little to no market right now, can you get him to buy into a 6th man role like a lou williams.

    • @TheCriminalViolin
      @TheCriminalViolin 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mike seems to hate hearing us call for Ant to be a Sixth Man because "he's heard it too many times, and any won't come off the bench, don't be absurd." That's been my experience, both first hand AND with him responding to other comments. So another way you can say it is his is highly dismissive of such ideas, automatically. But you're right. I've said this for years, Ant is CLEARLY a Sixth Man. NOT A STARTER. He's identical in every way to Lou Williams and even JCrossover. He has the ability and potential to become one of if not the best sixth man of all time. Since he always just wants to be given the ball and go, let him do so, but off the bench in that role.

  • @cykratzer3463
    @cykratzer3463 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I went to the game against Atlanta, my first Bkazer game in a while, and my first exposure to this new roster.
    For a majority of the game the played rat ball, and we're getting their butts kicked because of that. But once they started running plays they started scoring and making stops. Near the end of the game they went back to rat ball and tried to give it away.
    The best teams in Blazers history played like a team. Sounds obvious but some players never it figure out.

  • @MojoMan007
    @MojoMan007 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Sorry, Coach Haters, you have to give Chancey more than a little credit for the team's current success.

    • @terrancealexander-nelson8743
      @terrancealexander-nelson8743 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Chauncey's playing 11 players. It's keep the Trailblazers fresh and versatile to get more loose balls and more 50/50 plays. Plus, they have their lottery pick from 3 years ago, finally healthy, and their dynamic big man they traded for last year is finally healthy too. Simons works with this style. Defense can always be like these with or without Simons. Center play is the big change and loose ball chasing.

    • @ben9975
      @ben9975 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sure, but best believe I’ll give him full credit for what this road trip looks like too.

  • @Jeff-m3f
    @Jeff-m3f 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They scrap and play harder, smarter too without these lazy players. Simons has always had terrible body language, his only skill is scoring and he doesn't even do that very well. RW111 and DG is a much better center combo. Ayton takes mid range shots and rebounds. He doesn't play a consistent overall game, his stats are meaningless so is Ant's scoring, when his efficiency is garbage.

  • @user0_30
    @user0_30 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    super unselfish team when simons is gone, we need to get rid of ant and ayton

  • @MrJjreid
    @MrJjreid 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Rob is not a better center than Ayton. In h2h matchups, Ayton has averaged 18&13, while Rob has only averaged 5&5. Stop trying to create a narrative that the team is better without Ant and Ayton. They're hitting their 3's that's the difference. They're making shots that they were missing early in the season. During clutch time Atlanta game showed why they weren't better without Ant and DA. They couldn't buy a bucket because they had no shot creators. Rob is good on defense but he can't shot or create so teams just sit in the paint. That doesn't happen with DA. Atlanta also outrebounded Portland. Ayton not starting because of his contract he's just better. Chauncey plays whose better Camara is playing over both Mattisse and Deni who both make more him.

    • @stevepeterson4154
      @stevepeterson4154 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Dog you're the epitome of clueless.

    • @talltim9579
      @talltim9579 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@stevepeterson4154 Name calling makes a weak argument.

    • @jirikurto3859
      @jirikurto3859 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@talltim9579 A weak argument makes a weak argument. He's just telling it like it is.

    • @kirkroyse4705
      @kirkroyse4705 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I would just suggest we won’t know a lot until Chauncey is gone, Chauncey plays who is Better for his awful system

    • @canIeaturcarrots
      @canIeaturcarrots 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They hated you because you spoke the truth

  • @chadmerrill2636
    @chadmerrill2636 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Keep ant and Ayton as reserves and only play in garbage minutes to bolster their stats and then get what you can in the off season. Talk to the person who writes all of these trade proposals in the Oregonian 😂

  • @kirkroyse4705
    @kirkroyse4705 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love our Lord savior Jesus Christ ❤.. it’s always better in life to be to early than to late 🎉❤.. talking about tin foil hats RFKJ and awesome pick

  • @Natejdub
    @Natejdub 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you Ant 🫡
    Don’t let the door hit you on your way out, DA