Ayton isn't changing anytime soon man. He's going to shoot those midrange shots and never attack the basket. Yeah he could be amazing if he had that drive in him but he just doesn't. Dude is what he is after so many years.
The work you put into this is so clear to see. Such a nice change of pace from the typical "where are they now" type vid done by so many channels where all the info provided can fit on one page with a few obvious bullet points gleaned from wiki in five minutes. Awesome work bro, I look forward to seein more
I must thank u for letting me sleep at night🙏 in the most respectful way possible im able to fall asleep to your videos, idk if its ur voice or vid style its just so calming. Ty bro
2 MVP Level Players in Luka & Shai Perennial Allstars in Trae Young, Jalen Brunson, JJJ Fringe / Potential Allstars in MPJ, Mikal Bridges, Miles Bridges, Sexton Solid Role Players in Bruce Brown, Gary Trent, Mitchell Robinson, Wendell Carter, Gabe Vincent, Rob Williams 3, Divencenzo, Grayson Allen etc etc. Defo the deepest class of the 2000’s so far.
Suns fan here, numbers aside Ayton is a cancer that infects an organization and brings down moral. Best decision suns ever made was to get rid of him. He doesn’t perform in clutch moments, he complains too much, and he is lazy. It’s awesome to have good regular season numbers but if you don’t perform in clutch playoff moments then what does it matter?
Pretty deep draft to be honest. Has stars and a ton of starter/roleplayer level guys. It legit has a chance to be one of the best ever, but way too early to lock it in.
As a #Suns fan..we think about how bad of a decision that was made maybe every week or so even though he got traded..we never recovered from drafting early Dragan Bender, Josh Jackson and others that weren’t long ago..
And the crazy part is even without the best record in the league the team still had a good record this year, he clearly should have won the MVP this year, the media just hates him so much😂 they kept expecting him to lose but he kept winning until they reached the finals, I know that pissed them off😂
He’s winning it this season Mavs are winning 55+ games and they will be a top 3 seed.The only reason they haven’t been giving him mvp is cause he’s not a top 3 seed which makes no sense cause Jokic and Westbrook won mvp while being a lower seed than Luka’s 2023-24 Mavericks.
@@teogotdasauce4233 I am a fan of Luka but I totally understand if he doesn't like Luka's playstyle (where he has the ball most of the time) and demeanor on the court, because it is really frustrating at times. But Luka battling through injuries the last playoffs is something to admire.
Love these videos and i hope you will continue to cover more draft classes in the future can you please cover the 2009 draft when you have the chance You have a new subscriber
10:54 "yea, luka doesn't play defencec sometimes" proceeds to show a clip of where porzingis (a center) shot 5 feet behind the three point line on luka's closeout
Hoping there are Hornets fans in this thread huhu cos that season before Miles Bridges got suspended was pretty nice (I believe he won player of the month at the start of that season? Or was it week hahaha man that was hype.) If they stay healthy this year, with all their pieces clicking at the right spots (Melo staying in games, BMill becoming a solid 2nd option, Bridges as a solid pnr and iso option, 'The Condor' becoming an anchor on defense), maaaan making the playoffs this coming season would be a dream come true. WE NEED THEIR ANNOUNCER ON THE PLAYOFFS MAN!!!
I love the hornets announcer also lol. I remember watching them the year before bridges got suspended, and they were looking really good for a young team. Even this year with Miles coming back he looked pretty good, and Miller looks like a solid piece as well
The 2018 draft will likely go down as one of the greatest ever as it could contain 2 MVPs, a DPOY, and a few other all-stars. The only drafts that stack up to this are 1984, 1996, 2003 and 2009
Jordans first 5 years were in the 80s. And a few months in the 90s. Lebron and Kobe played in much slower paced seasons so their numbers would suffer on top of Kobe not being a number 1 option
Holy shit, i didnt realise that that is what happened to zhaire smith. I thought he just didnt perform well... hope he can make a return to the league!
What People seem to forget is the Suns success Ayton sacrificed for the team. They ALL kept saying it. Say what you want about his performance etc but team success of stats is most important.
Think I've seen it mentioned before, but would love a video discussing all the "next LeBron" players: Jabari Parker, Wiggins, and Porter Jr. are 3 that come to mind
@@LockdownK but he still didn’t win MVP. His team didn’t win enough games. Ik the Hawks suck right now, but a lot that is due to the horrific front office situation going on in Atl
@@Glassofmilkwithcookies some has to sacrifice their game in a big three and the one that does gets the heat. Bosh, Love, Westbrook as examples. Now I’m not saying Beal was great
surprisingly yeah. I don't know if Memphis needs his rebounding but for contracts sake if he could become a 19 and 10 guy with like 1 block he could be one of em
yeah anyone who actually watched suns games knows this. he does not play at all to his athletic ability its like hes always playing scared and is a liability defensively because his lack of physicality
Has he been underwhelming, yes, but I wouldn’t put him in the same category as Olawakandi and Anthony Bennett. I think he’ll have a long career but will never be the franchise player Phoenix drafted him as. He’s in the “Meh” category like Kenyon Martin, Andrew Wiggins, and Joe Smith.
I didn't really think much of ayton. When he got picked 1, over Luka!? Well I assumed the scouts saw a shaq with a shot. He turned out to be what I thought, a decent center
Giving Luka credit for defensive winshares is the same as giving Zach Lavine credit for the 20/21 Bulls defense. Incredibly disingenous he was a godawful defender the entire playoffs apart from round 1.
You wouldn't make these excuses for any other superstar if they had a terrible defensive series. Luka is an all time great offensive player but that doesn't mean he gets a pass for getting blown by every defensive possession in the NBA finals most of all.
Ayton is a failure but not a bust Bagley is a clear bust Doncic is a already a Superstar and a HOF almost JJJ is a dpoy and might be the best defender in this draft Young is Star and good player but too much of defensive liability
I'm confused why people call Ayton a failure/bust. Sure he is not better than Luka and or Tray he is 17 point walking double double who averages a block per game. Could he be better sure, but calling that a failure is crazy imo. All the other people you mentioned though I can see your point haha
@@LockdownK Yeah Ayton is an double double guy and a max player. But he has underperfomed and playing mycareer 2k before games. To me i will yell to him you have a nba career practice that. From being scouted as next David Robinson to a crying for a 5 year max contract when you have a 4 year 133M. I will be a grateful person for that. My man is a poor mans KAT. Love ur videos tho.
Trae young is a defensive liability but Luka Doncic is such a terrible defender he has the top 5 games in NBA history of getting blown by. A dude who has mads playoffs 3 times has more games being blown by than any player in playoff history. That’s a defensive liability . He is a cone wearing #77
@@caponecharles2643 I understand the point but he led the league in playoff steals. But i mean he played the most games so he is a liability on defense maybe. Tho hes bigger than young so bad defender but not a liability
Playing 2K before games is not a bad thing haha. Different people have different ways of getting locked in. But I understand your point, from what he/the media has shown of Ayton, it leaves something to be desired from him as a player.
Ngl it’s hard seeing Luka winning a mvp since it’s a regular season award and there are a bunch of players with really good stats not saying he’s stats aren’t good they’re amazing but it’s just jokic is insane he’s super effective at 58% while averaging 26,12,9 embid is more effective than Luka while averaging more points Shai is more effective and a way better defender Giannis who I feel like should have been top 3 in mvp is just a more valuable player as he is impactful defensively and super effective yea he a big but there no other big dominating the paint no other inside scorer is even close to him the dude averaging 30 I honestly would take AD as mvp over Luka since he had a DPOY season at 3.5 strks and average 24, 12 cause it’s the most valuable player not best offensive player he’s the worst defender of the top 10 players possibly 20 but people only care about who shoots the ball more and who scores more without looking at how they do at the other end and if they effective how good they make their teammates
@@LockdownK Adam Silver's announcement on the draft night is close to perfect, that's why your mispronunciation of his last name right after that clip makes it even funnier :) Good analysis btw.
If Luka was Number 1, he and Booker could have been the first and best father son duo to play in the NBA
Lmaooooo
the beef been over quit the glazin like a bitch 🤣🤣
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Ayton isn't changing anytime soon man. He's going to shoot those midrange shots and never attack the basket. Yeah he could be amazing if he had that drive in him but he just doesn't. Dude is what he is after so many years.
Luka averaged 21/7,8/6 those are crazy numbers for a rookie.
Frr
Number that no one seem to mention
@@Oscar-b5b4x still a bigger flopper than embiid
@@TheDiesel408 casual
Should have been an all star even if not a starter
Luka averaged 21.2/7.8/6.0 in his rookie season
The work you put into this is so clear to see. Such a nice change of pace from the typical "where are they now" type vid done by so many channels where all the info provided can fit on one page with a few obvious bullet points gleaned from wiki in five minutes. Awesome work bro, I look forward to seein more
Yessir glad you are liking it! These videos take a long time to make but I gotta do thrmem right for the real fans
For a 38k Subscriber Channel, you post a very high quality videos. Keep up the good work.
Appreciate that
Made my night at work bro saved the video for these 12 hours ❤
Glad I could help
I must thank u for letting me sleep at night🙏 in the most respectful way possible im able to fall asleep to your videos, idk if its ur voice or vid style its just so calming. Ty bro
This draft isn’t just one of the best in the 2010s, it’s one of the best OF ALL TIME
Glad you dropped bro I’m glad you did your videos make my day better and today I had a rough day
Glad I could make your day Jackson! This video is one of my favorite out of the last couple so I hope you like it!
the most stacked draft in nba history. undeniable
Cap
pretty sure thats the '84 or '96 draft classes
@@YeahFrickinYeah maybe 2003
@Jayster90 03 was good too
2 MVP Level Players in Luka & Shai
Perennial Allstars in Trae Young, Jalen Brunson, JJJ
Fringe / Potential Allstars in MPJ, Mikal Bridges, Miles Bridges, Sexton
Solid Role Players in Bruce Brown, Gary Trent, Mitchell Robinson, Wendell Carter, Gabe Vincent, Rob Williams 3, Divencenzo, Grayson Allen etc etc.
Defo the deepest class of the 2000’s so far.
Goldmine of talent. Along with the medical advancements, this draft will probably rule nba for a long time
damn, I used to yap that Book/Ayton tandem is the new Kobe/Shaq 😂😂😂
They where close! That finals suns team showed how important a good PG is in the league. Chris Paul absolutely changed that team overnight
Suns fan here, numbers aside Ayton is a cancer that infects an organization and brings down moral. Best decision suns ever made was to get rid of him. He doesn’t perform in clutch moments, he complains too much, and he is lazy. It’s awesome to have good regular season numbers but if you don’t perform in clutch playoff moments then what does it matter?
Love the editing on this one 🔥
Preciate it G! The team really popped off on this one
You should do, "Every MVP Since "___" Today"
You got it!
MPJ the first one from that class to get a ring
2018 draft is gonna be remembered for a long time.
100% agree!
Wait, Trae was an Allstar in 2024
As injury replacement
@@Emko-bb6pk still an all star
@@afomiaketema25 yeah,but he is little overatted
@@Emko-bb6pkhow is he overrated when literally everyone says hes trash and not comparable to luka
Pno hes not , hes underated@Emko-bb6pk
Pretty deep draft to be honest. Has stars and a ton of starter/roleplayer level guys. It legit has a chance to be one of the best ever, but way too early to lock it in.
Agreed!
As a #Suns fan..we think about how bad of a decision that was made maybe every week or so even though he got traded..we never recovered from drafting early Dragan Bender, Josh Jackson and others that weren’t long ago..
Another great video in my favourite series.
I'm always searching for your comment anytime I drop! Let me know if there are any series you'd like to see
I'm pretty sure luka got a scoring title this year
Pretty sure he don’t.
@@jamespohl-md2eq lmao what he literally got one last season
@@Pando0678Last ain’t this season.
@@jamespohl-md2eq i wrote this comment 5 months ago at the end of last season smh
It’s middle of January. August ain’t the end of the season.
Stop digging
The hawks build solid teams for Young. He’s just a defensive liability
Luka just never can get the mvp award he deserves. The mvp award was never about team records until now and its screwed luka Time after Time.
And the crazy part is even without the best record in the league the team still had a good record this year, he clearly should have won the MVP this year, the media just hates him so much😂 they kept expecting him to lose but he kept winning until they reached the finals, I know that pissed them off😂
He’s winning it this season Mavs are winning 55+ games and they will be a top 3 seed.The only reason they haven’t been giving him mvp is cause he’s not a top 3 seed which makes no sense cause Jokic and Westbrook won mvp while being a lower seed than Luka’s 2023-24 Mavericks.
@@carlosacosta1290 They will rob him again with some bs reasoning.
What? The MVP award has always taken team success in the decision of who wins it
i dont like luka, but the disrespect he got at draft day was insane 💀😭🙏
Damm you don’t like greatness
Why don't you like Luka?
@@teogotdasauce4233 I am a fan of Luka but I totally understand if he doesn't like Luka's playstyle (where he has the ball most of the time) and demeanor on the court, because it is really frustrating at times. But Luka battling through injuries the last playoffs is something to admire.
I mean Ayton was the clear one then but don’t know why Luka didn’t go at 2
@@insight1239I mean he does complain a lot which can be annoying etc. and his play style isn’t always liked.
This is when I started watching the NBA on a game to game basis consistently. OKC MVP caliber season Paul George lives rent free in my mind.
He was a different player
i love the idea of this vid love ur content
W comment!
Love these videos and i hope you will continue to cover more draft classes in the future can you please cover the 2009 draft when you have the chance
You have a new subscriber
covered it awhile ago, got you fam th-cam.com/video/D-02lrdclNw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_13BoUafZCjhcZp0
Still can’t believe the Suns past up on Luka 😢
great vid man!
10:54 "yea, luka doesn't play defencec sometimes" proceeds to show a clip of where porzingis (a center) shot 5 feet behind the three point line on luka's closeout
Yessir lockdown k dropped
W Comment!
Thanks!
You bet!
Solid draft..!
Gd take 👍👌✌
Hoping there are Hornets fans in this thread huhu cos that season before Miles Bridges got suspended was pretty nice (I believe he won player of the month at the start of that season? Or was it week hahaha man that was hype.)
If they stay healthy this year, with all their pieces clicking at the right spots (Melo staying in games, BMill becoming a solid 2nd option, Bridges as a solid pnr and iso option, 'The Condor' becoming an anchor on defense), maaaan making the playoffs this coming season would be a dream come true.
WE NEED THEIR ANNOUNCER ON THE PLAYOFFS MAN!!!
I love the hornets announcer also lol. I remember watching them the year before bridges got suspended, and they were looking really good for a young team. Even this year with Miles coming back he looked pretty good, and Miller looks like a solid piece as well
Tatum and Brown were drafted back-to-back third (16, 17). ☘️🏆
The 2018 draft will likely go down as one of the greatest ever as it could contain 2 MVPs, a DPOY, and a few other all-stars. The only drafts that stack up to this are 1984, 1996, 2003 and 2009
Luka
Trae
Jjj
Brunson
All have some solid accolades!
2017 is also very good
@@spidamitchell8311u on crack how u leave a top 5 superstar in shai out with best team in the west
i love you lockdown
love you too bud
Bro you deserve way more subscribers
Everything, In Time
Jordans first 5 years were in the 80s. And a few months in the 90s.
Lebron and Kobe played in much slower paced seasons so their numbers would suffer on top of Kobe not being a number 1 option
the luka glaz is crazy gang
Thanks!
everybody acted like marrvin bagley and Ayton they are the new Shaq and Tim duncan NGL 🤣
Lolllll
Holy shit, i didnt realise that that is what happened to zhaire smith. I thought he just didnt perform well... hope he can make a return to the league!
^
What People seem to forget is the Suns success Ayton sacrificed for the team. They ALL kept saying it.
Say what you want about his performance etc but team success of stats is most important.
Bro you are best basketball chanel
Can't be the best without you though #YouDaRealMVP
great video! this probably took some time.
Oh yeah it did!
Love your vids so mush bro
W comment! Preciate you!
Really enjoyed the video
Glad you liked it!
Love this channel!
Glad you enjoy it!
Lockdown laughed with Mo Bamba
Trading for nurkic was terrible 😭 portland fleeced them
Think I've seen it mentioned before, but would love a video discussing all the "next LeBron" players: Jabari Parker, Wiggins, and Porter Jr. are 3 that come to mind
Great video!!
thank you!
Less gooooo K!!!!!!!
For me it was Luka that was the MVP but if Shay had have got it I would have been happy as well.
The Sacramento Kings would have had a title by now man… oh brother…
did you just use bol bol highlights for mo bamba?19:36
maybe
Lmao
2018 draft just keeps getting sweeter
2025 MVP TRAE YOUNG
He averaged 30 points and 10 asisst last season, if he gets those rebound up and a better team record who knows!
@@LockdownK rebound don’t matter when he top of the league in everything else. But Ik what u mean
No
It does when Luca doncic dang their averaged a 30-point triple double last year lol
@@LockdownK but he still didn’t win MVP. His team didn’t win enough games. Ik the Hawks suck right now, but a lot that is due to the horrific front office situation going on in Atl
I am ashamed to say i was on the mo bamba hype train. Dude was must watch tv in college
Maybe Harden could unlock Mo Bamba pick and rool game like he did with Zubac, there is promising future
Hmm I don’t remember Trae young saying he sees his game as “Paul, lillard, and kyrie Irving” the only one I do recall is Steve Nash.
The hawks with Trae young are literally Portland with Dame 2.0
Not even close lillard was no2 in Portland at the start of his career Aldridge was the star
Ayton is a lion who doesnt realize that he has claws and fangs.
Musa was the 29th Pick in the first round the last pick is actually Omari Spellman selected by the Atlanta Hawks
I’m convinced if the suns didn’t pick ayton and chose either trey or Luka they would’ve won against the bucks
He fit the mold for that team!
Suns now have KD and Beal with a way better Book and got swept!
@@alberth1150 yea..a washed beal
@@Glassofmilkwithcookies some has to sacrifice their game in a big three and the one that does gets the heat.
Bosh, Love, Westbrook as examples. Now I’m not saying Beal was great
@@Glassofmilkwithcookies picking Trey or Luka changes the time line… definitely no CP3, Monty and Jae.
We have a KD and got swept!
You let Grayson off the hook. He IS a dirty player. Feel like he can’t do anything to erase the dirty plays at this point.
The only problem with Jaren Jackson is that he’s not that good of a rebounder
surprisingly yeah. I don't know if Memphis needs his rebounding but for contracts sake if he could become a 19 and 10 guy with like 1 block he could be one of em
Can you do what happened to the 2020 draft class?
Gotcha!
Luka has a scoring title🔥 also 5 straight first team all-nba appearances (more than Curry)
Wow… I forgot how deep this class is. Insane!
Right!
So u telling me Luka and book could’ve been teammates thts dat hurt 😂
Video idea: Best Foreign players that never played in the NBA
Interesting!
Completely disagree on your Ayton take. As the number 1 overall in a draft taken ahead of Doncic and Young, he is considered a bust.
No he is not 😂😂😂😂😂
yeah anyone who actually watched suns games knows this. he does not play at all to his athletic ability its like hes always playing scared and is a liability defensively because his lack of physicality
Has he been underwhelming, yes, but I wouldn’t put him in the same category as Olawakandi and Anthony Bennett. I think he’ll have a long career but will never be the franchise player Phoenix drafted him as. He’s in the “Meh” category like Kenyon Martin, Andrew Wiggins, and Joe Smith.
I didn't really think much of ayton. When he got picked 1, over Luka!? Well I assumed the scouts saw a shaq with a shot. He turned out to be what I thought, a decent center
Where you at Brodie???
In my opinion averaging more turnovers than assists is not good.
which player?
Do the 2020 draft
I gotchu!
Giving Luka credit for defensive winshares is the same as giving Zach Lavine credit for the 20/21 Bulls defense. Incredibly disingenous he was a godawful defender the entire playoffs apart from round 1.
Teams shot 30% when guarded by Doncic in the playoffs. Just say you hate Luka cuz he dog walked your favorite team and laughed at you while doing so 😂
@@Joeshiesty286 Watch the Celtics Mavs series
Question then, did Luka have "terrible defense" in the finals, or was the Celtics offensive scheme just good at showing Lukas weakness'?
You wouldn't make these excuses for any other superstar if they had a terrible defensive series. Luka is an all time great offensive player but that doesn't mean he gets a pass for getting blown by every defensive possession in the NBA finals most of all.
5:38 Probably was one of the diehard sac fans
*Literally Has a Lakers Flare
lol
SGA my glorious king will win the championship within the next 5 years ☝️💯💯
BRING OKC A CHIP!
@LockdownnK what giveaway ?
What giveaway?
Jerome Robinson lowkey looks like Brock from Pokemon
I can't unsee it now lmaoooo
Facts wtf 🤣
Bro he was 18 when he won mvp in Europe and 19 in his rookie nba season
K. Can you explain to us your direction, anything going on behind the scenes you can reveal? Let us know.
Knox is weird cus he has all the physical tools you want
All this talent and my team took MO BAMBA it's painful to be a magic fan sometimes
Yep they looking for a new Howard but failed
Ayton is a failure but not a bust
Bagley is a clear bust
Doncic is a already a Superstar and a HOF almost
JJJ is a dpoy and might be the best defender in this draft
Young is Star and good player but too much of defensive liability
I'm confused why people call Ayton a failure/bust. Sure he is not better than Luka and or Tray he is 17 point walking double double who averages a block per game. Could he be better sure, but calling that a failure is crazy imo.
All the other people you mentioned though I can see your point haha
@@LockdownK Yeah Ayton is an double double guy and a max player. But he has underperfomed and playing mycareer 2k before games. To me i will yell to him you have a nba career practice that. From being scouted as next David Robinson to a crying for a 5 year max contract when you have a 4 year 133M. I will be a grateful person for that. My man is a poor mans KAT. Love ur videos tho.
Trae young is a defensive liability but Luka Doncic is such a terrible defender he has the top 5 games in NBA history of getting blown by. A dude who has mads playoffs 3 times has more games being blown by than any player in playoff history. That’s a defensive liability . He is a cone wearing #77
@@caponecharles2643 I understand the point but he led the league in playoff steals. But i mean he played the most games so he is a liability on defense maybe. Tho hes bigger than young so bad defender but not a liability
Playing 2K before games is not a bad thing haha. Different people have different ways of getting locked in. But I understand your point, from what he/the media has shown of Ayton, it leaves something to be desired from him as a player.
8:48 those numbers are completely wrong, Luka averaged 21, 8, and 6 his rookie year, where th are you getting these numbers from?
Disrespect for the sacramento kings
Are you a sac fan?
Ayton just mails it in, and is lazy. There for the check.
Ngl it’s hard seeing Luka winning a mvp since it’s a regular season award and there are a bunch of players with really good stats not saying he’s stats aren’t good they’re amazing but it’s just jokic is insane he’s super effective at 58% while averaging 26,12,9 embid is more effective than Luka while averaging more points Shai is more effective and a way better defender Giannis who I feel like should have been top 3 in mvp is just a more valuable player as he is impactful defensively and super effective yea he a big but there no other big dominating the paint no other inside scorer is even close to him the dude averaging 30 I honestly would take AD as mvp over Luka since he had a DPOY season at 3.5 strks and average 24, 12 cause it’s the most valuable player not best offensive player he’s the worst defender of the top 10 players possibly 20 but people only care about who shoots the ball more and who scores more without looking at how they do at the other end and if they effective how good they make their teammates
You forgot to add nba finals for Luka in playoff success
First 5 seasons
you should do 2013
Already got you th-cam.com/video/QZLbkVl-0ao/w-d-xo.html
a 2 piece.. mans cant take a flinch
how can you even mispronounce Doncic's surname after 6 f years in the league bruh?
Just how I say his name will make sure I change it up for the next video lol
@@LockdownK Adam Silver's announcement on the draft night is close to perfect, that's why your mispronunciation of his last name right after that clip makes it even funnier :) Good analysis btw.
@@LockdownKit’s easy to say his name and im not even close to being serbian
don-chich
Im glad you can pronounce his name better than me 😂 I'll get it right next video 😂😂
@@LockdownK strive for greatness haha
Best offensive players not the best player
9:50 am I tripping ? weren't Dallas in the NBA finals this year ? not even a mavericks fan but Luka does have a final in his belt
talking about there first 5 seasons in the league
Aytons prime was 1 year with CP. lol.
so many bigman this draft class
Marvin Bagley just vanished into thin air.