The Expanse: Morrigan Class Patrol Destroyer - Official Breakdown
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2018
- Force Recon continues with a look at the Morrigan Class Patrol Destroyer.
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This time I was lucky enough to chose the name for this ship and write basically all of it's lore and backstory. I'm tremendously grateful to have had an opportunity like this and I hope you all enjoy the episode.
I should point out for any wiki editors that the MCRN Morrigan mentioned in season 2 was the first ship of this class and therefore it's namesake.
Any plans to "remaster" the MCRN Corvette/Rocinante video? :) (Or just wait until the Roci gets modified someday?) ;) It's so awesome that you have been able to work closely with the creators of Expanse. Have any plans to meet up with them someday? The authors look like they would be fun to hang and geek out with. :)
No railgun at all? In a verse where PDC's are common and effective doesn't that result in the Morrigan class being a very under gunned opponent when facing other purpose built warships? I get that it is usually deployed in pairs but doesn't the MCRN's preference for quality over quantity mean that they should prefer railguns over torpedoes?
That's just epic. Surprised but super pleased that they reached out. Not something a lot of companies do. Very cool to see.
+Ken Shaw The railguns require quite a bit of power. But, one of our favorite ships is going to get an upgrade someday, so just sit tight... ;)
Given that Morrigan apparently translates roughly to "Queen of Phantoms", and that this is a fast-attack ship with some models outfitted for stealth, I'd say you picked a pretty good name.
A spinoff series that follows Theresa Yao in her campaign against pirates in the belt would be amazing
Indeed.
I agree with this comment.
A spin-off series showcasing major fleet battles and including every ship known in the expanse doing weird shit for 40 minutes
I wish some model companies would start making some Expanse ship kits.
CzarPeppers
yes Soo much yes
CzarPeppers we have a rocinante kit now, really expensive though
you could work off screenshots of the elevations shown here, play a little in SketchUp and make them yourself
I’d totally by the full set if they were 18-20mm for the Board Game Expanse. Get rid of the cubes for the bling!
Would buy
There really needs to be an Expanse RTS. Would love to manage these ships in real time combat.
it would be such a SLOW game though =P
@@TytonidaeIndustries
That can easily be fixed with proper game design.
@@silentdrew7636 maybe, would be really hard though
Did you know the expanse started out as a game idea at first? The idea was scraped but the lore was eventually used for the book.
@@mattstorm360 yeah, a table top game i thought, but i dunno
I bet you get a hell of a kick out of putting that "This constitutes official canon" title card up there. I know I would!
It's basically writing for the show. How cool is that.
The MCRN ships are just magnificent, and that black/grey/orange colorscheme is just striking.
Martin Jørgensen Martian Camouflage
LOL
Even though I know nothing, the style looks really nice
Ever played Homeworld? It's old now, but they remastered the graphics... a while ago. It's worth a look, is my point.
@@soulman81284 and it is beautiful.
While I generally prefer larger ships in franchises like Halo and Star Wars, the art team for The Expanse has done an incredible job with their ships. The MCRN has some of the coolest and most unique designs I've seen, and the Donnager Class is my favorite since it kinda looks like a Vostok rocket. I absolutely love this series on the ships of The Expanse.
Kris Handsome although i love the rediculus ships that star wars and warhammer have to offer, i find myself leaning more towards these smaller type ships, for one they are more realistic and they also pack alot of utility amd each vessel seems to have its own purpose, star wars gives its ships classes but their actual features often dont reflect those classes. And of course as you put it, they look nice too.
Yeah, Halo especially has a lot of favourite ship designs, but I love how "fitted out" Expanse vessels feel. Every inch is accounted for with torpedo bays, airlocks, PDC mounts, etc. It feels very functional and real as though a team of warship designers had spent serious time developing a craft.
I think the Prometheus were meant too look like crap. It is as if it was to demonstrate how inexperience Human was.
I love the Corvette classes, primarily for the PDC armament, (but I heavily favor the PDC sfx used for the Donnager CQB battle). There is nothing more exciting than witnessing the power of rapid AA fire, so it is refreshing that this form of weapon is used to its fullest potential in the show.
Me too.
Seeing bad guy get one-shot by a BFG, like how Donnager destroyed some stealth ships, is awesome. However, it's nothing next to seeing someone get toasted by thousands of PDC rounds.
People complaining in the comments seem to miss the fact that maybe one should focus on the "patrol" part of. "Patrol Destroyer". It's meant to be primarily an upgunned patrol vessel. The word "destroyer" is meant to denote the increased armament as opposed to the actual ship class.
Its ironic people are complaining because actual destroyers were originally quite small and were designed to hunt down torpedo boats, which was why they were called 'Torpedo Boat Destroyers'. Now the DD-1000 is the size of a WW2 battleship.
I'd actually compare the Morrigan class to the River Patrol boats used by the US Navy during the Vietnam war
I'd prefer to say "Pre-WW2" rather than saying "Actual" Destroyers. Ship class definitions change all the time. One not necessarily less valid than the other.
STOP COMPARING SPACECRAFTS TO NAVAL VESSELS. Space is *not* a fucking ocean, get that through your heads already. Stop using WW2 as the central fucking point of reference in whatever passes for historical knowledge in pop culture. We don't classify airplanes the same way we do boats; so we shouldn't do that with spacecrafts, vehicles designed for a different medium altogether.
GabDubé well.. we dont have space fleets to actually make up something new for. Besides naval ship classes denote roles more then they emphasis sea based. Those roles will still be crucial in space. making the classification less based on the medium to which the war is being fought on and more on what said "spacecraft" is bringing to the fight.
Also fucks up your butt bro?
Woooosssaaaaaah
A video on the MCRN stealth planet killer platforms would be dope... Yield of warheads, manned or unmanned etc.
The Expanse, it's lore, ships, are such a beautiful concept for an MMO space simulation. Perhaps something bigger and more awesome than Star Citizen
TheShutteredRoom it originally was going to be an mmo game
@@mechak.7504, I thought it was going to be an RPG, similar to Starfinder.
it makes a even better idea that of Star Citizen in practice,
One solar system with 3 factions, 2 "inners" and one based in space, With its planets be hand built like Star Citizen, a large Belt that makes for PVP, and making the System (the map) be based on Control of space, factions warring for power in their Faction-Only Ships, and pirate players and bounty hunters (that could even be sponsor by the factions) in the outskirts or even inside the faction control area making their rounds.
Add an Eve style of Player Based Economy, and Player Built style ships so you can have modular ships like of Belters, and since is more brought down that of Star Citizen and/or Elite being based on just 1 solar system...
Dude you got money in hands with that kind of idea
@@Varko-Farsight perhaps add in NPCs to fill out job roles that are unpopular
Never noticed the recoilless gas-venting from the back of the PDCs. Amazing attention to detail.
Can't wait for the Anubis-class video
I am eagerly waiting for the stealth ship video.
I guess that one down-vote is from the SyFy Channel...
Best. Comment. Ever.
I really like that you’re doing videos on expanse ships that don’t get tons of screen time and/or are some what of an enigma. Really appreciate this channel and your high quality content. Great work!
3:10 heh, MCRN Iceni, so this is where admiral Bosch went, old habits die hard, I see
My head-canon is now that the Xuesen was only chosen for the mission to the ring because the captain of the Iceni took one look at it and went "Oh HELL no! I ain't falling for that shit again".
Ooooh, a freepsace reference, had forgotten about this gem, thanks for reminding m,e.
I bet you loved seeing the "Koto" in season 5, I know I did!
This Force Recon series is great.
Please keep these expanse videos coming , good job .
Scirocco Class next? The show has a number of these in the second and third seasons and seems to be the work horse of the mcrn fleet.
This is by far my favorite scifi series and I very impressed with your work thus far.
Can't wait to see more.
did you know Expanse was supposed to be an MMO before they wrote it as a book ( no money to make MMO), no wonder it is so well thought out and the world is so well built out etc etc... we need that MMO! Now that they have the money...….. come on guys!
Fun Fact: Shandian means "Lighting" in Chinese
Ironic name for a stealth ship. Gotta be intentional.
Making all kinds of history today, keep it up man
GReat work! Really enjoying your Expanse series of videos
Any ship deserving of the name Scipio Africanus has to be totally badass
3:33 Reflecting RADAR is probably the opposite of what they were trying to achieve as this would make you more visible, not less.
Really loving these videos Daniel. I hope to see more of this and check out all the cool ships of the expanse.
Please more of these. This is fantastic. This brings so much more reality to the world of the Expanse. I love it.
I am amazed at such thoughtful moments. as installation of 1 frigate or two of these
I really love the way they showed in the last episode when the Earth ship went pass the portal, that the decks are horizontal rather than vertical. When the ship entered vertical in the portal, on the deck the portal was shown horizontal, comming from Up ( The ship's front) to Down (the ship engines). Really loved that small detail.
I’m always super curious about the technical specs of these ships (canon) and want more!
Hey Spacedock, love this episode. Now that it is canon, it's very cool that you got to add more to Captain Yao's lore with her decision to take two of these Morrigan Class Patrol Destroyers for every Corvette the Donnager carries. I've always felt that there were more stories to be told about Captain Yao, and this is a nice addition to that.
MCRN has better-looking ships than the UN.
I just noticed that the MCRN Shandian and MCRN Scipio Africanus actually have different hull shapes. Shandian is less angular, the round bit of tech at the bow of Africanus is of a cubic shape in Shandian.
Really awesome. Makes me wish we could get some plastic models for this show, but outside of 3D prints and Lego MOCs, there is nothing...
Usually High-realism and Aesthetics don't mix, but the Exapanse averts that so magnificently!
Keep up the good work. Can't wait for more Sojourn content
MCRN ships have design feel that similiar to Homeworld Ships.
Please do the stealth ships next.
I like this layout presentation. Hope it becomes the new standard.
I cannot wait for the next video to come out
Damn that's a good looking ship..
Scipio Africanus, nice.
Also Cu Chulainn.
Zap Gun man cu chulainn is just so badass, also its the only Celtic myth I know that follows anime tropes (I mean yeah it precedes them but still)
I love Cú Chulainn, he's almost as badass as Fionn Mac Cumhaill. Really the deciding factor here is just that Fionn's last name is literally pronounced "Mc Cool."
Lancer never gets a break...
I love how no matter the ship class, Mars always makes a stealth variant of everything! Wish we saw more of the Shandian, cool concept, like the name. It just feels like every named ship in the expanse has a personality and distinguishing traits, as opposed to other Sci-fi properties where most named ships are just units on a strategy board and nothing else.
The Expanse is great, and so is this video!
This collaboration is just soo good.
These are videos fantastic! So little info on Expanse ships. Cheers!
Something I only learned yesterday: Morrigan is the Celtic goddess of war (some claim lugh is the God of war but I digress) and there is a Morrigan class called the Cú Chulainn who is an Irish legendary hero. My assumption is that Celtic/Irish culture is really common on Mars.
@Spacedock First, I absolutely love your channel. It is innovative, incredibly detailed in your assessments and very entertaining!!! Occasionally your explanation of tactics or those inherent in a game, usually the latter, fall short. This not at all to disparage you in the least. The fact that you get right as many times as you do is AMAZING. I have been schooled in military Doctrine and Strategy for a long time, something game companies do not, I believe, have the benefit of having. Surprisingly, to my knowledge, only 2 movies, out of hundreds of games, television show or movies has ever addressed the simple Truth, they are fighting in space, X, Y, and Z axis AND there is NO up or down. Those movies are “Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan” and “Ender’s Game”. Our Solar System has a unique plane to our Sun, but this plain one is not the option as planets formed. It is simply the direction of meridian of swirling gasses and rock, that would become our Sun were spinning. Even Uranus, though it remains on the same plain, relatively speaking, is on it side, perpendicular to its orbit around the sun. Basically I’m saying very, very, very few mass released media get space warfare even close to right. It makes no tactical sense to come at an opponent on the same plane as their target. Our Air Force doesn’t, our attack submarines don’t and it is ridiculously stupid to do it in space, where you would expect most of your targets weapon emplacements placed to protect the plain that ship is flying.
I love the updated ui. It looks grate.
The Expanse is such an awesome show !
I hope it never goes off the air
💚👽
At 2:19, you can see a closeup of the PDC on the Donnager. In addition to the muzzle blasts, there is a jet of flame coming out of the back of the turret assembly. I wonder if this is a counter-thrust element (similar to firing a main engine to counter a rail-gun blast). Or could it be that the rounds are akin to recoilless rifles? Just something I had never noticed before.
Inyalowda kopeng!! Best series you have ever made
What can I say except you're welcome!
Scirocco-class when?
Sweet. Thumbs up, for the name if nothing else!
reading the books now, because can´t watch season three and just have to ad that a destroyer seems to have a few hundred crew in the expanse if i remember correctly?! great video and one of my favorit vessels of the show, good job
Nice one chaps!
Hello Spacedock, would it be possible for you to share high resolution schematics of The Expanse ships?
Love these ships. Great vids too.
You forgot to mention also that they look cool as shit! ^_^
I remember all these.
I just don't feel like talking when they explode
Quantity has a quality of its own.
I want that badass build in Lego
I love the look of these ships.
hey spacedock where do you get the schematics and info from? could you cover iron sky movie?
Hey Daniel, by any chance do you play stellaris? If so, would you stream it?
Are their any indications about acceleration of capital ships in the books i know in the show and books the Corvet/Roci class can accelerate up to 16 g's I know prety much any MCRN capital ship can get up to over one g of acceleration.
MCRN Hamill-Stewart, niceee :)
This is My Hero Ship :D
Wow, a Martian ship using Martian stealth tech. They DO exist. Up until now, we've only seen Earth ships and giant rocks that actually make use of Martian stealth technology. The rest just sits around and gets smuggled or stolen, apparently.
There are Martian stealth ships, you just can’t see them
Hey, I noticed a small visual glitch at roundabouts 1:01, looked like a torn greenscreen. Just thought to point it out, and that I love the work you do here!
I saw that too
How accurate would it be to call the Expanse "The child of Battlestar Galactica and Game of Thrones"?
More like: Child of nBSG (minus the retardation of Season 4), Game of Thrones (minus the retardation of 'every loved character has to die'), Sir A.C.Clarke's Space Odyssey and Firefly.
nothing like the retarded GOT. this is Babylon 5 redux
Errrr not at all it is greater than anything else on tv from all time
Someone like season 4 of BSG?
Expanse should not be compared to anything that has come before, except perhaps Firefly. It portrays a world that feels real and people who mostly act in ways that make sense. That is so exceptionally rare to make it special.
Cough, Mobile Suit Gundam, cough
Hell of a good design.
Wait... the MCRN’s frigate is called the Corvette Class Frigate??!
Sick the marshen ships are named after Celtic lore
I feel like torpedo-fighters would make a lot of sense. Take a large torp, pull the warhead, slap a light PDC on it, and you can deploy and recover it the same way as with torps.
My favorite ship design by far in the show.
Hope to see a video on the protogen stealth ship.
I love this ship!
Gotta say though, the Donnager class battleship will always be my favorite ship from The Expanse.
Sad that Mars is dying. Man. They had such cool shit.
@@TheAero1221 Mars isn't dying.
I T ' S A B O U T T O B E W R I T L A R G E
9:27 Why would a suite of modifications to increase the stealth of a vessel include changes in hull shape "intended to *reflect* hostile radar" [emphasis mine]?
Still love the orange-black MCRN color theme
What do they use for shielding on the ventral Blindspot? A big bullseye?
think you can make a video about the hamurabi's class of ship or the Nathan hale's class
Nathan Hale's a Truman
Beautiful, beautiful ship. RIP Souther. Your sacrifice will not be forgotten good man
it's not a truman. Look into it. It's smaller, and has a different design
You're right it can't be Truman. Also because most Truman's have "royalty" names- King, Queen, etc.
not necessarily. In the books there was one called the Okimbo, which isn't very royal
The Morrigan class also looks really cool
Hey Spacedock,
I'm working on a fan fiction ship design for the Expanse based upon the Morrigan class, and since you wrote the official canon specs for that little bugger (kudos for that you lucky guy ^^) I was wondering if you could help me out a bit. My question is: what size would you consider appropriate for the original design's crew quarters? You state that they're considered "small", but what habitable volume would that correspond to in your opinion? As a reference, international real-life standards for the habitable volume inside a spacecraft (ISS, Space Shuttle Orbiter, Sojuz, Dragon, Dream Chaser, CST-100 ...) is a minimum of 20 m³ for optimum performance in low/zero gravity for the average human being for extended periods of time (4 weeks and more), 14 m³ for minimum performance, and 6 m³ for minimum tolerance. The design I made is about 10 m longer to accomodate slightly bigger crew quarters and more storage to improve long-time missions, as well as a massive upgrage in its tactical systems and additional communication arrays.
Any feedback in that regard would be highly apprechiated. Thanks in advance and keep up the good work.
I can not wait to see the free navy and the laconian navy in the exapance!!!
Any chance of more of these coming with the new ships showing in Season 5?
Reminds me of the corvettes I make in stellaris to.police shipping lanes.
After the material they released in S5 behind the scenes it seems that the ship that was shadowing the Argobast (The Shandian) was a different type than the Morrigan.. it seems bigger and fatter...
Something confusing: In season 1 when the Roci is about to be boarded by a Morrigan class, Amos refers to it as a 2-man skiff, but apparently it's supposed to have a crew of 8? Maybe they just reused the model and hoped nobody would notice XD
8 might be full crew complement, but they might be able to operate with as few as 2 crew for low intensity mission.
So... I have to wait years for you to do Heart of The Tempest?
TheGunpowderjunkie I just wonder how it looks
I can't wait to see what The Expanse team is going to make of it's design, truly a unique ship
Brody Doerrie even with The Coming Storm, I'm hoping it's something completely unique. Not like something we've seen him Star Trek or any other sci-fi
What I'm waiting for is any lore on the aliens that wiped out the proto molecule aliens and shot at the Tempest!!!
Magnetar and Pulsar are a long way off.
Well It would seem that I found my favorite ship in The Expanse and that is the Morrigan-Class Patrol Destroyer.
Are there any internal layout schematics?
We gonna be getting any new ones from the new season?
Please make a video about the Goliath Power Armor!!
This is one of the most beautiful sci Fi ships I've ever seen
Great video as always!
This reminds me of something I've been thinking about a lot. What's the advantage to having internal docking space for smaller warships inside larger ones? Obviously hangars for shuttles, fighters, etc are valuable but why corvettes or destroyers? It seems to me you'd be better off eschewing those docks and using that space for something useful or removing them to save on mass and size. If you need to transport smaller vessels to save fuel or whatever you could attach them to the exterior instead since you'd likely immediately launch them in combat anyway.
Is there a good reason a lot of large Sci fi ships seem to have this feature?
MrDrProf you are less likely to lose your small agile ships to surprise enemy fire, also the deployment time is significantly increased since walking inside the hangar is easier than going out into space.
You also have the benefit of not showing the enemy which kind of ship will be deployed, making your tactics more difficult to predict...
That said, I suppose there is also many advantages to having the ship be outside, those being that not only is it way cheaper, you also dont waste space on a hangar, which can give you more firepower, or ease your logistics by storing supplies.
gabriel ferraz ah that's a good point. I was thinking that it wouldn't generally matter because you're likely to launch the small ships early on but being caught off guard and having them could be useful
i would say, in some cases, engine power and fuel consumption would be part of it, effectively letting smaller, slower, short range ships benefit from the larger, more powerful, faster, and longer ranged drive systems of the larger ships, while still hiding the numbers of the fleet
as far as the internal docking bay, they would need massive docking clamps and what not regardless, so you may as well protect the relatively sensative docking equipment and the smaller ships behind the larger ships armor
Are you ever going to do a video on the Behemoth?
Did you say a Corvette class Frigate? Do the Martians also have Destroyer class Carriers or Cruiser class Dreadnoughts?