The Expanse: Scirocco Class Assault Cruiser - Official Breakdown
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Spacedock . Love your videos. Please check out( legend of galactic heros -die neue these) its really good sci fi
Hi Spacedock Team!!!
Woohoo. Loved the vids man. If u possibly can do a vid on the Martian stealth planet killer ships and were would be a good place look at the art of the ships of the expanse.
sorry dude but i refuse to watch any content about the worlds or universe prior to seeing episode one
i'd live to see a detailed analysis on the *Axiom* from Wall-E
From a purely aesthetic standpoint, the MCRN is one of my favorite sci-fi factions ever.
The Great Destroyer Same! There's not a single design of theirs I don't like. They almost rank alongside the United Federation of Planets and the Colonial Fleet, which is high praise from me since I'm huge fans of both of those factions.
The Great Destroyer ikr
Their Corvette class is obviously the coolest. I could see myself calling one home.
They make low power/high realism scifi tech look cool.
I sure do like triangles in space, and the MCRN gives them an interesting new direction.
I feel like an amazing RTS could be made from the Expanse's lore
The expanse was planned to be an MMO before they decided on writing a book. Game development is EXPENSIVE
@@amistrophy honestly given how a lot of SciFi MMOs have flopped these days, being a book and later a series adaptation was a giid decision
An RTS would be cool tho
@@shaunmoreau5081 yep. Like Battlestar Galactica Deadlock
@@matthewgaviola8885 Yeah, Imagine all your ships being customizable with more emphasis on tactical gameplay
I bet MCRN not only hires best spaceship designers, they must also have artists who make sure they look so stylish
Well that makes sense, real military RND teams probably spend millions on design aesthetic in the same way that car manufacturers do, the (fortunate?) unfortunate reality is that form can be just as much of a priority as function and optimal technology might be passed by because inferior competitors dolled their offering up more and caught more eyes.
@@youtubeisapublisher6407 Aesthetic is never a factor when designing military equipment and no sane army spends money on it.
It's the result of "bloated" Martian government budgets.
I love warhammer design
probaly stealth tech stuff
MCRN ships are really powerfull, it's very nice to see what does the ''less ship but greater quality'' rule REALLY means
When I look at these ships, I'm reminded of Homeworld in an instant
Homeworld is hardly realistic, but I agree that some of the ship designs are similar, especially in the remastered version. Although Cataclysm (or Emergence) is still my favorite of the series
@@artembentsionov Cataclysm is my favorite Homeworld so far. too bad they mark it as bad apple except some of us like bad apples.
@@chronicnightmare. yeah, too bad the source code was lost. I’d love to see a remastered version
I love how the ship design in the expanse works as they manage to make ships feel very grounded and real while also looking great, much as i like the sleek designs of ships such as the Normandy or The enterprise I can’t help feeling that these would never be built as they are too impractical
I could see the Normandy being designed. But you are right, the Enterprise will never be built. Too impractical.
The one everyone was so eagerly awaiting
noice
Jacob Osborne I already have a complete build of it with remote guided torpedoes
Pound-for-pound, the best military vessel class in the solar system.
damn straight. though the Roci kinda beats out all of 'em just by sheer balls.
Its like they just slapped that railgun as an afterthought
The Brits finally built their replacement for the Arc Royal??
Marcus W there is no plans to give either Queen Elizabeth class carrier missiles, despite the Mod acknowledging it leaves the carriers vulnerable to modern anti ship cruise missiles.
Also the Mod does not have any plans currently to build any more carriers once Prince of Wales is finished, this is largely due to the fact the Royal Navy will currently only operate one carrier at a time and the navy is facing serious funding and manpower issues.
@@Marcus51090 1: They are called the 'Queen Elizabeth class', not the 'Royal class'.
2: The Royal navy list CWIS as the only anti aircraft weapons system fitted aboard the Queen Elizabeth class, none of the 3 anti aircraft missile systems which are in service, Seawolf, Sea Viper or Sea ceptor are announced for fitment to either of the Queen Elizabeth class carriers.
3: Releasing information related to defence is a serious criminal offence so I doubt that if you are in a position to actually see an order sheet for equipment that you would be stupid enough to disclose that infromation prior to an official announcement.
@@Marcus51090 "Price of Whales"
LOL
ooo I like cpt Farren's jacket, good color scheme
I can't wait to see how the Laconian ships look.
Unfortunately I don't think we will. That's after the time skip which will probably be the stopping point for the TV series.
Ahhh. My Spacedock fix. Feels good
I was just rewatching this, and I noticed that this vessel has one to two extra outriggers, that look just like the tower housing the ships light railgun. This leads me to the conclusion that this ship has the possibility of being equipped with one to two extra light rail guns. This would perfectly minor the Donnager class as it also has two extra hard points capable of mounting more rail guns.
Why would you want 3 rail guns though
@@iain3713 why WOULDNT you want three railguns?
@@iain3713 I don't really see your reasoning there, man
i swear MCRN is just a pure Army of Destruction. and i like it :D
I can’t get enough of these Expanse videos. So good Daniel!
You know some might say the Belt is a waist of space.
I'm not sorry.
Pudlord Tynan you should be
Get out :-)
DA DUM SHHH lol 😂
Debes esse
You dare !
Is that Supreme Commander music in the background
YESSS best RTS ever!!
Love your use of Supreme Commander soundtrack, it fits the Expanse lore really nicely.
And I thought I was the only one with serious UEF vibes.
Woo! Been waiting for this one. Sciroccos seem like the most well rounded ships we've seen so far.
That is one nice looking skyscraper.
This is the one I was waiting for
Spacedock, any plans to revisit the Donnager Class? Now that it seems you have access to some studio art and model renders. I would love to see an updated one.
I think I’d ally myself more with the MCR because they have newer cooler ships lol, although I do like chrisjen avasarala lol she is cool
LOVE the breaching pods! I hope we get to see those in action one day. I also now really want 3d prints of all the Martian ships
I definitely like MCRN tech better than Earth's.
literal sarcasm As a person who sides with Zeon, the Settlement Defense Front, and the Red Faction I have to say FUCK THE EARTH! SPACE FOREVER!
kabob 007 like ones technology is not the same as looking ones ideology.
literal sarcasm Oh I know, but it's just that Space is FAR better imo. That and most Fascist governments made in Mussolini's style actually fucking work, not Hitler's though. He is a fucking madman who's book is literally just a bunch of his ravings while Mussolini's is actually a proper book.
kabob 007 you know Mussolini was publicly hanged, right?
literal sarcasm Yes, but that doesn't mean his regime didn't have some effectiveness. It brought most of Italy together and killed or kicked out the Commies there. Plus, if Mussolini didn't have plans to make ANOTHER Roman Empire (There's been like five, stop doing this!) he might have actually survived.
I would love that instead the half made Start Citizen we have a game based in The Expanse. The combat would be similar to a space Silent Hunter.
The ship model are outstanding and I have the feeling that this video have more detailed info and quality, in line with the status of official cannon.
yeah, I would pay upwards of $60 to play a good Expanse game
The Scirocco-Class is MAGNIFICENT!!!!!!!!!
I really love the MCRNs quality over quantity aproach, thats why they are my favourite faction in the expanse.
Nice ride. MCRN has great toys.
I love how the aesthetics and designs of these ships are so much like Halo. Not only does it give a real world look to it but it make me think that this is how ships looked like in Halo during the time period.
Halo's ships look NOTHING like these. Sure they're angular and blocky and have big thrusters in the aft, but the design sensibilities of UNSC ships are too, shall we say, cartoony or "futuristic". Plus, they're not office tower style ships, with decks perpendicular to thrust. I'm pretty sure the UNSC has artificial gravity of some sort.
I’m saying that I see these ships as being the ‘precursors’ to the ships in Halo.
These ships are far better design than halo. Halo is 500 years in the future and their ships are barely as capable as these ships given their time to develop. The only thing they have on them is power. If this series Mars had 500 years like halo, their ships would make halo look like bootleg buckets.
@sombodi200: "Barely as capable"? What?
Expanse ships only seem more capable than UNSC ships because the enemies that Expanse ships have to fight have roughly the same equipment. In Halo, the UNSC fleet was completely outnumbered, outgunned, and outplayed by the Covenant. If a CCS-class battlecruiser slipspaced into the Expanse, it could annihilate humanity's entire combined fleets. Here's how:
Launch plasma torpedoes. Human PDCs try to shoot it down, but a ball of plasma can't be destroyed.
Plasma torpedo hits a Donnager battleship. It instantly dies. A CCS-class has six plasma launches every minute.
Humans launch nuclear torpedoes. Most of them get melted almost as soon as they leave the tubes by precision pulse lasers.
Nuclear charges will EMP a Covenant shield, so the energy shielding is a nonfactor, but the hull would take several nukes.
The only way I can see the battlecruiser being taken out is if they somehow get a nuke in underneath the shields while the shields are still up and running. Keyes did that in the Battle of Reach - the shield contains the energy of the nuke, which bounces around inside the shield instead of dissipating, utterly destroying the target. Electronic warfare wouldn't work at all, because unlike the UNSC they don't have AIs to wage cyberwarfare at anything like a level playing field. Actually now that I think about it, the entire fleet would probably get hacked and self-destructed immediately by superior Covenant tech.
Granted, it's not really fair to compare these universes, as the Expanse has a far greater attention to scientific detail. Covenant and UNSC ships have artificial gravity and reactionless drives.
@armorhide406:
UNSC ships are a weird case. Whatever handwavium engines they use, they don't produce any thrust on the occupants of the spaceship. Before the Great War, human ships would have rotating sections in the middle for sleeping quarters and other such things that require gravity. When going into combat, those sections would stop spinning and be locked in place. The rest of the ship is zero-G.
During the Great War, it was discovered that Covenant ships had artificial gravity systems, and these were some of the first systems reverse-engineered by humanity. The Pillar of Autumn was the first mainline warship to be equipped with them, and after the war all ships had them by default as they decreased in cost.
Who’s hyped for the Sojourn release?
Dank User I hate hyping, but spacedock has not failed me so far an infact helped unite us to save the expanse. I'm not as far as hyped, but I am looking forward to it.
Right here, baby.
prototgen stealth ships next
There should be another version designed specifically for ship to ship combat. It doesn't have dropships, but has 3 medium railguns, 2 more PDCs and maybe couple of aft-oriented missle launchers. This would be a heavy cruiser, purposefully built to take Truman class one on one.
The ships in the Expanse universe look like a good match to the “new” Battlestar Galactica universe ships; a strategy board game pitting the MCRN (?) against the Cylons would be interesting, to say the least!
You could use Stars and Steel and 3d print
Sounds borderline OP.
I fucking love it.
My new favorite Expanse ship. It has the right balance between troops and weaponry
the ship seems perfect for military exploration
Great. Now I wish they would show those Dropships in Action in Season 4.
Didn't we see them in season 2 and 3? I could be mistaken but I think that looks very similar to the ship Bobby lands on earth in, and the ship that carries her to the ring station.
When can i get that Scirocco artwork from 3:57? I think i found by new wall paper
This expanse series of his is directly supported by the creators of the show. I think they're supplying him with most of the concept art and information about the universe.
I don't think some of the photos he's showing here are possible to find anywhere else, but I might be mistaken.
Bit of a typo in the specs, there's actually 14 PDC's instead of 12. One each per engine pod, one behind the railgun pedestals port and starboard and another ventrally. At the front of the ship, there are two dorsal mounts with two more to port and starboard with the last gun mounted just forward of the drop ships.
Love the channel. Can't wait for the sojourn to start
Love these video's. Short, to the point and very informative. Keep them coming :-)
Also if the need in any way arose
The bording pods could possibly be used as adhawk missiles by packing them with explosives
I had one of these ships but, because it has a large carbon footprint I traded it in for the latest Rocinate Class Light Frigate (was corvette class but with the light rail-gun and new proto-molecule armour it's shifted up a class) which allows me to hop around the solar system in style and safety... if anyone needs a lift to the Belt I've got room for a few travelers with light baggage or 1x power armour.
Btw, that music: Jeremy Soule - risk relief and victory. dunno why you guys credit it to Carey Chico...
2:20. It looks like they can add more (2) guns on the ship, doesn't it?
And... What's the PDC field?
PDCs or Point Defense Canons are guns whose primary purpose is to destroy incoming missiles before they hit the ship. Kinda like the Phalanx CIWS that the U.S. navy uses. Here 1:28 you can see them being used at close range as weapons (something that's extremely rare in this sci-fi series).
As for why it only has one rail gun. I guess the designers of the show just wanted to add a little asymmetry to the ship.
*supreme commander music in background*
All right, you got me. Sneaky devil.
I love how the show demonstrates that this strategy of the MCRN is only good for limited warfare. In all out total war, they will lose to earth's cheaper but mass produced ships.
yeah, that's even said in the show.
Golden states in the books the un fleet drills and simulations before he was discharged had the un lose every time unless they hit Mars fast and end the war quickly. Come season 5 or maybe the latter part of season 4 you should see what even a small part of the mcrn fleet can do to earth and its territories.
A lot of Mars strategy seems to be built around the idea that Earth just doesn't have the political will for total war, and Mars has no desire to conquer Earth, so it's all about limiting the UNN's ability to project their power past Luna, and inflict losses that Earth can't accept if they try.
loving this newer ship, well done.
That's one of the ships Marco Inaro has now, right?
Still waiting for those stealthships...
there is nothing more... unless we finally get those UNN Warships we got glimpses of during Ganymede or escorting the Thomas Price
what do you mean there's nothing more, there's still plenty a ships (and stations) he can do especially since he's creating most of the lore independently
I kinda want to see the stealth planet killer platforms
SpencerAK74M heck yeah.
They're hard to find.
Supreme commander music in the background is just perfect
I want to buy scale models of the expanse ships. Any idea where I can buy them?
You can print the Rocinante if you have a 3D printer.
I wish! There is definitely potential with the series in the sale of merch and gaming.
Argasy Argasy2 I would love that instead of the half made Star Citizen we have a game based in The Expanse. The combat will be very similar to a space Silent Hunter.
Eaglemoss needs to get in on this, there is a potential market out there ^^
Some nice high-quality kits wouldn't go astray.
I love these videos guys! Keep up the good work.
I love the new graphics used!
I don't know why but when I seen the Scirocco Class Assault Cruiser I'm just instantly reminded of the Orion Assault Carrier.
Scirocco Scirocco, where have I heard of that?
"SCIROCCO PAPTIMUS"
scirocco's a name of a wind
Prepare your team for drop.
CMDR. Shepard SIR YES SIR
"WHAT DO WE FIGHT FOR?" "MARS!"
Wish you did more of these
Supreme Commander theme = Instant like!
That's probably one of the nicer looking ships that has been done on this channel
i'd live to see a detailed analysis on the *Axiom* from Wall-E
Spacedock is making its own series? I will watch anything that you guys produce.
Mars is my favorite faction they are the cutting edge in technology.
Yet again a wonderful video!
Want the new OPA patrol craft done!
Anyone else wonder why they put the PDC for the chariot type dropships on the *top*, as opposed to the bottom. Unless it travels 'upside down' and flips in the final phase wouldn't there be a huge blindspot underneath?
I think it's for establishing a no fly zone when landed. You effectively negate any enemy close air support as long as you get the dropships to land.
Lars Hei Perhaps, but at that point the payload is already disembarked and the dropship has done its job. Maybe I'm thinking of it more from a contested beachhead pov than just establishing a temporary AA bubble.
I honestly don't know why the expanse is not dominated by drone carrier ships with manned escort ships. The strength of space combat in the expanse is a long-range torpedo salvo with rare and ill-advised CQB, So I dont know why ships that control dozens/hundreds of torpedo armed drones are not the most dangerous weapon for a fleet.
small vessels won't have enough range, acceleration and ammunition.
for huge vessels adding humans doesn't make them significantly larger.
its the same reason we don't have drone fighter planes / bombers, while technically its possible.
Let's ignore Burnside's Zeroth Law of space combat (Science fiction fans relate more to human beings than to silicon chips) for a moment.
Combat drone slaved to a mothership suffer from time lag, and the possibility of jamming. The control ship would need to close in to a terribly vulnerable distance that neglected the purpose of a separated command ship in the first place. You'll either need crew on board or made it fully automated AI.
And admit it. No one trust fully automated AI without human oversight.
Simple. If the enemy hacks your drones, you are fkd.
Torpedo in expanse have extreme range and acceleration, and don't need drone to carry them.
Also, why is shipping a manned endeavor? I know the story couldn't have happened if the future crew of the Rocinante weren't hauling ice on the Canterbury, but realistically you could just strap a couple thrusters to a big chunk of ice and launch it toward the buyer.
What class UNN ship was the Sciorroco fighting on Ganymede... Anybody know? I would be interested to see a breakdown of that engagement.
Damn good work.
The MCRN has got style! Id like to see something about Thoth Station.
I'm signing up to join the MCRN. I want to do my part.
Thanks Spacedock for giving me ideas for a little something I plan to do.
love the supreme commander music.
Please do an episode on the stealth ships from The Expanse
Love this ship to bits. Is it me or do those breaching pods seem way too big to be single occupant?
The Scirocco class assault cruiser looks awesome, but why one railgun not three railguns?
Power and mass dictates the armaments in space.
Unlike the Leonidas , Truman or Donager this is a heavy warship that can pull maneovers.. so they probably have more maneovrability than the UNN equivalent or heavier ships and can simple move faster pointing her railgun at the target.. While UNN Ships usually have to remain "still" or drift to fire theirs
because it has Torpedoes that can obliterate a freaking moon?
Railguns have to be powered as a pre-fire and in the show take some decent power. Having 3 railguns wouldn't mean much if you didn't have the power to charge all 3 simultaneously or in quick succession. Plus there is still Newtonian physics, so every launch would impact the ship's moment, causing greater strain on the ship's engines to compensate.
Love this ship
Hi I was wondering if you are going to do a break down on the MCRN GOLIATH POWER ARMOR I haven’t seen anything about that yet .Than You shawn
damn good as always love the expanse and cant wait for season 4! i hope the Sojourn comes out soon dieing of anticipation
The swiss army knife of space combat right there folks
I CANT WAIT FOR SEASON 4 AND THIS
I wonder if this thing could take on a Leonidas class battleship? I think the Leo is heavier, but it's also implied to be a mediocre design with outdated technology, even by UNN standards, and if I recall correctly, I think a Scirocco class vessel was implied to pose at least some threat to a Truman class dreadnaught. One of the UNN officers on the Agatha King (Truman class) said they could probably beat the lone cruiser but would likely sustain at least some damage in the process.
All hail the Martian Republic!!!!!!
They need to make an expanse game
That’s a really cool design with the exception of the breaching pods. Are cables actually effective in space considering what we know about the weapons Compliment of many ships. You’d have to get within about a km of a ship to use them, and you’d get blown out of the sky by rail guns or PDCs at that range
think it's assumed that if a Scirocco is that close, the Gunners on the other ship are gonna be a little busy at that point plus the Scirocco itself would likely have focused on nailing the PDCs in the particular area they're planning to send the boarding party at.
we see breaching pods used to board the Donnager in season 1, yeah some of them got shot down but most still hit, probably because the ships were so close to begin with (CQB)
I love the expanse and all it’s ships so these videos are excellent. Think you’ll cover the ships of the free navy like the Pella?
Why do more small ships not have railguns? "Small" being Rocinante size. The Roci gains a railgun off the commercial market (???), which only adds more questions
For being a railgun equipped cruiser Scirocco didn't seem to do that well during Ganymede Incident. Obviously it wasn't a total loss since it did survive the battle and MCRN was the overall winner. But with neither side having the element of surprise Scirocco took a lot of PDC fire in the opening moves and didn't seem to score any good hits on UN ships.
Why is there Supreme Commander music playing in the background of this video?
I'd like to a see a modification to a space strategy game (maybe Nexus: The Jupiter Incident) to let us pit these ships against each other how they would be used in the show.
You can partially replicate the ships in Children of a Dead Earth. They won't look anywhere as close to what they appear on the show, but the fight can get pretty close to what we see in the show.
And then there is the OPA that uses FedEx containers as drop ships...
Can you do a info brief on the MCRN GOLIATH POWER AMOR? Thank You
Hi Spacedock Team!!!
So is this the vessel type Marco has as his flagship in series 5 (Nemesis Games?)
Was that Supreme Commander's soundtrack around the 2:20 min mark?!
yep. UEF.
The Expanse Is. So. Fucking. Awesome.
Love Expanse !!
So, why only one Railgun? Seems like there's enough space on the other side of the ship for a second one
Odiem081
Power limitations, probably
maybe weight? maybe if they put another one on the other side it couldn't get its pants on in the morning.....
what's wrong Scirocco? you grew the other love handle didn't you?? maybe you shouldn't have eaten that last jelly donut!!! drop and give me 50!
and even the Donnie only was firing two at most at the same time.