.357 Magnum, 10mm Auto and .44 Magnum was as big as I had in "powerful" handgun calibers. I've been going back and forth between a .460 S&W Magnum and a .500 S&W Magnum lately. I think I decided to get a .460 S&W Magnum at least first with possibly a .500 S&W Magnum later owning both. The .460 Magnum caught my attention because you can shoot 4 different calibers in the same gun .460 Mag, .454 Casull, .45 Schofield and .45 LC. I cast my own bullets so having a .45 caliber mold opens up lots and lots of possibilities over a proprietary .50 caliber bullet mold. There are only a few choices for the .50 while in .45 you have nearly 75 - 100ish combinations or so. Overall I think the .460 Magnum makes more sense. Already got the reloading dies, shell holder and bullet molds for .460 Magnum, .454 Casuall and .45 LC even though I don't have the gun yet. It's on the short list and sometime before Fall......it's the middle of August 2024 now.
I know a couple of shooters that had 50/500s and sold them because ammo and bullets were expensive and difficult to obtain. My 460 has been great! Thanks for watching!
@@30-06john Would be same here. I had a 500, I simply didnt use it enough and was costly. 460 is costly as well, but being able to shoot 454/45LC makes the difference.
Hi John! Appreciate all you do to educate the public on bear protection, guns for bears, and firearm safety. Just subscribed to your channel. If possible, wanted to learn what your current thoughts are on the 460 Smith & Wesson, as a backup gun for grizzly and brown bears? Has your experience these last couple of years with the cartridge/caliber, and the SW 460 XVR, been such that you’d recommend them?
Thanks! The 460 S&W is a very powerful cartridge, but one must be able to control it and get 2-3 shot off somewhat fast. The advantage is that one can shoot the hot 45 Colt loads that are like a 44 mag, or 454 Casull loads. Since I handload, I tailor the loads to what I can control. I do not shoot full power 460 loads. As for the revolver, mine has been great. I do carry it sometimes when at my cabin, in a chest holster. Mine is a 5" barrel, which works for me. A longer barrel would be more of a hunting handgun. I hope this helps and thanks for watching!
@@30-06john thanks for the quick reply! The information is helpful. My original thought was a 44 mag, or 454 Casull. However, the snub nose version of the 460 SW XVR, got me thinking about this path. The idea of having the versatility from 45 Colt cowboy loads, to 454 Casull , all the way up to 460 SW is quite appealing. With one gun, it seems one can practice and work their way up from the lightest to the heavies loads they can handle. Supposedly, the X frame (even in snub nose) is significant enough to make even 454 Casull more manageable to shoot. I just wanted to learn from someone of your experience, whether or not you like the extra power of these 45 loads over the 44 mag for big bear defense, and if you liked the 460 SW XVR handgun as well.
Thanks for the video, I’m totally confused on which compensator to use for example I will bring 45 colt cowboy rounds and some 450 for console and different grain of 460 which compensator can I shoot everything with? My dealer doesn’t even know and everyone I talk to gives me a different answer. 👍 thank you
I leave the one for cast lead bullets on all the time now. That is the one that has 4 ports on the side and is a bit longer. The jacketed bullet comp will clog with lead in the ports if shot a lot with lead bullets. Hey, thanks for watching and Merry Christmas!
Isn't this mindset/approach a bit similar to buying a Ferrari and never flooring it, or taking it over 50 mph? Seems a simple 44 mag would have fit the bill for ya, and would have been smaller frame, and lighter overall 🤔
Not really. The 460 case is so big and runs at a very high pressure, it is easy to load it down but still be much more power than a 44 mag, also a bit more than a 454 casull. I have a few 44 mags and shoot them a lot. My 460 loads are much more powerful. Thanks for watching.
Actually, it was the muscles in the web of my hand that got bruised, my wrist was fine. I will be doing some hand strength exercises to see if that helps. That compensator makes the pistol come straight back, the barrel really doesn't flip up during the shot. John
.357 Magnum, 10mm Auto and .44 Magnum was as big as I had in "powerful" handgun calibers. I've been going back and forth between a .460 S&W Magnum and a .500 S&W Magnum lately. I think I decided to get a .460 S&W Magnum at least first with possibly a .500 S&W Magnum later owning both. The .460 Magnum caught my attention because you can shoot 4 different calibers in the same gun .460 Mag, .454 Casull, .45 Schofield and .45 LC. I cast my own bullets so having a .45 caliber mold opens up lots and lots of possibilities over a proprietary .50 caliber bullet mold. There are only a few choices for the .50 while in .45 you have nearly 75 - 100ish combinations or so. Overall I think the .460 Magnum makes more sense. Already got the reloading dies, shell holder and bullet molds for .460 Magnum, .454 Casuall and .45 LC even though I don't have the gun yet. It's on the short list and sometime before Fall......it's the middle of August 2024 now.
I know a couple of shooters that had 50/500s and sold them because ammo and bullets were expensive and difficult to obtain. My 460 has been great! Thanks for watching!
I have given it much thought. Awesome caliber!
Yeah, when I bought this, it was between the 460 and 500. The versatility and able to shoot 45 Colt and 454 tipped me over. Thanks!
@@30-06john Would be same here. I had a 500, I simply didnt use it enough and was costly. 460 is costly as well, but being able to shoot 454/45LC makes the difference.
Awesome stuff, John. Great range of bullets and powder tested, and you had some pretty good results with them.
Thanks! That case is so big that fast burning rifle powder like IMR 4198 can be used.
Got my eye on one of these bad boys. Saw the bullets and powders you use. They're the same as I use to load for my 44 mag, so I subscribed.
Thanks for subscribing! Yeah, the 460 is pretty flexible in powders and being able to shoot 45 Colt and 454.
Excellent video. Thank you for the good information.
Thanks, glad you found it useful!
Happy solstice!!! Hope you don’t have too much sunlight tonight.
Yes, happy Solstice! We are having mostly clear days so it is bright well into the night and very early. When it is cloudy, not as evident.
I love the 460 SW. Three cartridges in one basically. I don't own, however 😢
5 Calibers if you count .45 schofield & .45 cowboy special by my count!
@@HobbiesHobo, hmm, I hadn't thought of that. Good point
Yeah, the 460 S&W is pretty versatile in that way. Hey, thanks for watching!
Hi John! Appreciate all you do to educate the public on bear protection, guns for bears, and firearm safety. Just subscribed to your channel. If possible, wanted to learn what your current thoughts are on the 460 Smith & Wesson, as a backup gun for grizzly and brown bears? Has your experience these last couple of years with the cartridge/caliber, and the SW 460 XVR, been such that you’d recommend them?
Thanks! The 460 S&W is a very powerful cartridge, but one must be able to control it and get 2-3 shot off somewhat fast. The advantage is that one can shoot the hot 45 Colt loads that are like a 44 mag, or 454 Casull loads. Since I handload, I tailor the loads to what I can control. I do not shoot full power 460 loads. As for the revolver, mine has been great. I do carry it sometimes when at my cabin, in a chest holster. Mine is a 5" barrel, which works for me. A longer barrel would be more of a hunting handgun. I hope this helps and thanks for watching!
@@30-06john thanks for the quick reply! The information is helpful. My original thought was a 44 mag, or 454 Casull. However, the snub nose version of the 460 SW XVR, got me thinking about this path. The idea of having the versatility from 45 Colt cowboy loads, to 454 Casull , all the way up to 460 SW is quite appealing. With one gun, it seems one can practice and work their way up from the lightest to the heavies loads they can handle. Supposedly, the X frame (even in snub nose) is significant enough to make even 454 Casull more manageable to shoot.
I just wanted to learn from someone of your experience, whether or not you like the extra power of these 45 loads over the 44 mag for big bear defense, and if you liked the 460 SW XVR handgun as well.
Something like this with in a short barrelled contender with full buttstock (Canada Legal) would be cool! Mike.
T/C makes a 20" Encore barrel in 460S&W! That would be nice rifle. John
Thanks for the video, I’m totally confused on which compensator to use for example I will bring 45 colt cowboy rounds and some 450 for console and different grain of 460 which compensator can I shoot everything with? My dealer doesn’t even know and everyone I talk to gives me a different answer. 👍 thank you
I leave the one for cast lead bullets on all the time now. That is the one that has 4 ports on the side and is a bit longer. The jacketed bullet comp will clog with lead in the ports if shot a lot with lead bullets. Hey, thanks for watching and Merry Christmas!
Isn't this mindset/approach a bit similar to buying a Ferrari and never flooring it, or taking it over 50 mph?
Seems a simple 44 mag would have fit the bill for ya, and would have been smaller frame, and lighter overall 🤔
Not really. The 460 case is so big and runs at a very high pressure, it is easy to load it down but still be much more power than a 44 mag, also a bit more than a 454 casull. I have a few 44 mags and shoot them a lot. My 460 loads are much more powerful. Thanks for watching.
Hi John, that’s a big gun. Are there any wrists exercises you can do to build up your arm muscles so don’t hurt yourself. Hope all is well.
Actually, it was the muscles in the web of my hand that got bruised, my wrist was fine. I will be doing some hand strength exercises to see if that helps. That compensator makes the pistol come straight back, the barrel really doesn't flip up during the shot. John
I will reload some day.
Yeah, for cartridges like the 460, can save a lot of money. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for watching!