The dust cover thing needs this added Aboard ship the bolts and dust cover were removed from the rifle then placed back together stateside almost always with a different bolt thus the rattling
the bolts had to be removed for shipment when you take the bolt out the dust cover becomes loose this probably was an annoyance so they werent shipped with the guns.
Another thing, the ariskika rifle got its terrible reputation due to American troops confusing blank firing training rifles with the real things due to A. The Japanese made more blank rifles than other nations and B. Them making the rifles too similar to their live fire counterparts
@@adamhauskins6407 Jap rifles were mangled by Marines. That makes me happy. On the other hand, as a fan of milsurps, I kinda want a Jap rifle that WASN'T mangled by Marines. Though on the other hand, if Marines mangled it, tossed off the dust cover and rubbed out the Chrysanthemum, that's a sign of USMC dominance over Japan. And this is why I don't own an Arisaka
I got some Fudd lore and it’s a good one. The ping from the M1 Garand alerted enemy troops that American troops were empty and the enemy would charge and attack. Congratulations on 15k subs you’re a little bit more closer to 100k subs.
Ping!!! New subscriber!!! US Model of 1917 is the best bolt action rifle. Allegedly. I still haven’t fired my UF55 series Mummy Enfield yet. Cosmoline still packed in the action from the factory.
Literally argued with a dude about this for 2 years at work until demolition rank did an actual experiment with it. Shot it through a house of cards and the bullet didnt knock a card over on the pass through the center gap. I felt sooooo vindicated
@@alexhutton155???? What were the perimeters? If I shot a hollow point round with my 44 magnum at a deck of cards it would explode into pieces. 50 caliber is obviously larger. Full metal jacket? I'm not buying it
I always thought the "two world wars" thing was both kind of a joke and also a very shorthand way to say the 1911 has a lot of history and success behind it.
For the most part yes, but I have definitely encountered more than my fair share of people who took the term quite seriously. Heck I even use it as a joke from time to time, but I have gotten in arguments with people who truly meant it 😂
My fudd story:was plinking at a comp target 60 yards doing mag drills, double taps,with a AR15. Some carhart wearing old timer was saying if you had a scope you would have to waste ammo trying to hit the target. Told him this is a fun gun not a serious gun he shock his head kinda like in disbelief you own guns for fun. Part 1.
@@HeavyJay1421 My fudd story: took a new lady I'd just started seeing out shooting for the first time. We're shooting my suppressed LWRC M6IC at 25 yards, and she's not doing that bad. Old guy in the next lane has some kind of black powder .45-70, a Sharps or whatever. Not gonna lie, it was cool. But then the range goes cold, I go to change targets, and Elmer there with the black powder is talking with his buddy who isn't even shooting at all. He's gesturing at my rifle (which is a $4000 setup) and he's all "that's not a gun, that's an erector set". Now, because I'd just started seeing this girl, I'm trying not to act like an asshole. So when I walk past him I'm all "it's a whole lot more practical than what you've got". He's all upset and sputtering "OH YEAH, TRY HITTING AT 1200 YARDS WITH THAT!!!!" as if anyone could hit at 1200 yards with a black powder .45-70. So I just laughed. And when we were done shooting, we went to a brewery, and then back to her place. We're still together. And this dumbass went back home by himself to masturbate vigorously to a woodcut of the Battle of Little Bighorn or some such nonsense. Old guns are cool. Pretending they're better than new guns is stupid.
@alanmeyers3957 A modern gun is going to be objectively better than a black powder rifle for literally any practical purpose. There's a reason that we moved to smokeless powder. Black powder rifles are still cool because historical weapons are inherently cool. But they're not practical for any application anymore, any more than a spear is.
I grew up surrounded by fudds so I've heard some amazing fudd lore like "the M14 is the greatest rifle ever made, we only switched to 5.56 because it doesn't kill the guy you shoot with it and you can shoot the medic that goes to help him" "nobody needs an AR-15" "22LR is the best ammunition for soldiers because they can carry more rounds" "ak-47s are inaccurate but you don't have to clean them they'll just run forever"
My 3 inch 629 jammed one time. I was shooting 240 grain hand loaded bullets. Because of the sharp recoil, The cartridge length instantly grew and was greater than the maximum length. The cylinder would not turn for anything. I have remedied the problem by using 180 grain projectiles with a heavy crimp. My lesson is you have to shoot what you carry. I trust my life to that gun every day.
Part 2 to my fudd story: thier was 100 yard target silhouette steel he was hitting it with a 308 bolt. Then for fun I brought my 10/22 with no bipod lvpo scope. Missed a few shot and started smacking the target with a 22lr we had to take turns a bit hitting the target them he asked how I was hitting the target at 100 yards with 22. I told him the max range for my rifle is 100 yards. (I know I'm not grouping just hitting)
As an Imperial Japan specialist, I appreciate the dust cover inclusion. There is, understandably, a lot of fudd lore remaining in the English-speaking world. Not only from hearsay, but from reliance on wartime US intelligence sources which were, after all, based on incomplete information and only had to be good enough for practical purposes. However, Japanese militaria publications have gone far deeper on this stuff since at least the 1980s. With the original spec documents available online now, primary source research on gear has also never been easier anywhere in the world. Fun fact: Officially, only the Type 30 rifle/carbine were called the 'Arisaka.' I can find occasional contemporary reference to later models by the name in Japanese, but your average soldier spoke of the 'thirty-eight/three-eight' or the 'ninety-nine/nine-nine,' etc.
Plus Nambu did most of the design work on the Type 38+ rifles. Arisaka himself pretty much only worked on the Type 30 and maybe the 35, both of which the action is massively different from the 38+ guns. It’s more a turnbolt Mannlicher type bolt (with some major changes) coupled with a Mauser 93 type magazine. I think Arisaka just became common because it became the name stuck onto Japanese bolt guns and we ran with it.
Here's a sample of the Fuddness I've personally heard over the years. 1. Bigger calibers hit the hardest of all. Any .45 hits the hardest and will knock a man off his feet. .44 magnums are the most devastating handguns of all. After all, that's what Dirty Harry had. 2. A .22 magnum with a hollow point hits just like a .38 S&W. 3.They replaced the M14 with the M16 because a hit with a M16 takes out two men because it just wounds the first and makes the second have to attend to his buddy. 4.You have to have a .30/06 or a 7mm magnum to reliably bring down a deer. Shoot a deer with a .270 and it is more likely to run off. 5.M16s in Vietnam were made by Mattel Toy Company. 6.30/30 is fine to shoot through brush. .35 Remington, too. If you use anything else, the bullet will bounce all over the place and not hit anything. 7.Police departments went to 9mm because they're afraid of killing bad guys and getting sued...oh, and because they've got lots of wimps and women that can't shoot.9. Anything with "magnum" behind it is always more deadly and "kills harder when you shoot it" (exact words). 10. High base and magnum shot shells shoot tighter, hit harder, go faster, and go further (wrong, it just puts out more shot. Nearly all shot leaves a shotgun barrel at somewhere between 1200 and 1300 feet per second) 11. There's a difference between a 1911 and a Korean War .45. 12. Derringers and snub nose pistols are useless because nobody can hit with them except women, who need to have them because they're small and easy to use. 12. Anything that kicks hard hits hard. 13. Longer shotgun barrels pattern tighter and hit harder with all shot shells.
Oh, two more: "I shoot a pump shotgun. Pumps and double barrels hit stronger because automatics have to take some of the power away to work the action". "Don't let your finger get caught in the action of a Browning Sweet Sixteen when it shuts. I'll take it clean off."
@@baneofbanes I suppose anything CAN happen... but it just doesn't. After thousands of rounds and 20 years of quarterly revolver qualification and training with a S&W Model 60 and 640 that has never happened to me. Not once. It's practically impossible with a double action centerfire revolver.
I watched a video about tactical lever actions and said I prefer old school, walnut, blued steel, a sling with swivels and see thru rings for the scope so you can still utilize your iron sights. Someone made a response calling me a fudd.
I like old school too. Too often Fudd is used for anyone who isn't into tacticool guns. That being said, my view is, its your gun, you can do whatever you want with it. I mean they can put sonar on the danged gun for all I care. Not my gun, not my problem.
Nah. Bugs represents the trickster (the devil) he always got one over on Fudd. That means Fudd had no control over the devil on his back. May not make you a bad man but definitely a lacking man
I appreciate your communication of the fact that Japanese military gear was property of The Emperor. One way to distinguish a battlefield capture/bringback Japanese weapon from a surrendered Japanese weapon is the the Imperial Chrysanthemum is usually intact on bringbacks, and almost always defaced or ground off on surrendered weapons. Just some random things I've read that float above Fuddlore.
Thank you kindly! I’m in Oregon, near Portland (unfortunately) love the state but hate the politics. On the guns with chrysanthemums I have been very fortunate, got both a Type 99 and Type 38 with the mum 👍🏻
Eh just because the mum wasn’t ground off doesn’t mean it was a battlefield pick up. My great grandfather brought back an Arisaka from when he was stationed in Japan, thing is according to my great grandmother he got it from a warehouse filled with the rifles, not by capturing it. I’ve heard similar statements elsewhere.
You’re not wrong, it just amazes me how persistent some of those old tales are. Half of the Fuddlore I’ve heard was being told to me by someone closer to my own age (the other half from a select few genuine “fudds)
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry It's the sunken cost fallacy, man. Someone goes out, drops a grand on a Springfield Armory 1911, or a colt revolver, and now they need to justify to themselves that it was a better purchase than a 500 dollar glock (when pragmatically it just isn't, but we both know this)
@@FirstnameLastname-le9hqI don't need to rationalize my choices. I made them based on my priorities and being a conformist was not one of them. I don't have a Colt but I have a couple of revolvers and they were chosen for rational reasons as was my 22 auto pistol. I also had rational reasons for not buying a Glock. Grip doesn't fit me, don't like the trigger, don't like striker fired actions especially with fake safeties. One of the things I like about my 22 auto is that the design is less susceptible to proximity failures than most. I may buy a center fire auto at some point as a backup gun. Something like a CZ 75 compact is a possibility. Back in the day the old all metal S&W autos really fit my hand well and I rather liked them. However, after I had a long hiatus due to poverty issues I am gradually rebuilding my collection and brass flingers just aren't a high priority at the moment.
Yes. The fact that people to this day still believe that is mind boggling. It's a completely closed bolt system you can dump mud/dirt all over it and it will still function.
The m16s used in Vietnam were known for frequently jamming as it was originally meant to fire cartridges with lower pressure (wich seriously fucked the rifle) and sometimes wasn‘t sent with cleaning supplies due to it being a “self cleaning“ system (wich colt claimed). The fudd lore about the M16 is based in reality, though all of the issues the early M16s had were later mostly fixed.
"You can't use a silhouette target unless you're a cop!" "Just pump that shotty and the bad guy will turn tail and run!" "The lady wants a pistol? Here. (Slaps airweight snub .38 with pink grips on the counter) nah, there's no way a small little thing like you can hold a glock. Trust me." "HOLLOWPOINTS ARE ILLEGAL!!!" "I just bought a (fill in the blank of any turkshit pistol or shotgun) the other day. What a tack driver! Best gun I own especially for the price! Nah, I didn’t get a chance to shoot it yet, but the guy in the store said they're so good they're selling like hotcakes!" "Of course I'm pro second amendment. BUT...." And this is only a small sample size of fuddlore I've personally witnessed. I could go on for days recanting all the fuddisms I've been subjected to. At this point I literally don't care about correcting them either. It would be a waste of time, considering 90 percent of people who spout fuddlore couldn't tell you how they'd feel if they didn’t eat breakfast that morning.
Here in Canada, it is funny to ear people talk about the sporterized . 303 Lee Enfield that they own was issued to there grand father in ww2 and the army let them keep it. The reality was more that grandpa bought it in the 50s, they were plentiful and inexpensive
@@dandesch Sporterizing an SMLE, no matter what model, is a crime against humanity. I have a No.1 Mk III*, I'm trying to negotiate a purchase of a No.4 Mk I, I love the cock on close mechanism, and the Short Magazine Lee-Enfield is arguably the best bolt action battle rifle of all time. Sporterizing it is like drawing a dick going into Mona Lisa's mouth. Disgusting.
@@ObsidianFanedon’t know about in Canada but you hear it quite a bit here in the states about a variety of rifles. A few men snuck their rifles home after the war but that was theft of government property and most didn’t do that.
For more Fudd lore, try that the M1903 was the superior bolt action rifle because soldiers could hit a target 1000 yards away with it. Battlefields aren’t wide open spaces with clearly identifiable targets that sit still for you to treat it like a rifle qual; WWI Doughboys rarely fired at individual targets beyond 600 yards, and WWII had GI’s engage with small arms fire inside 300 yards 90% of the time in the European Theater, while the Pacific had engagement ranges even closer than that. Take away the finely adjustable sights better suited for a clean target range than a cluttered forest or jungle, with an enemy that shoots back and actually uses cover and concealment, and the Springfield is no better than any Mauser type rifle used in either war, and I’d even say US troops were at a slight disadvantage with now ridiculously thin the front sight on it was. Multiple accounts from Guadalcanal noted how Marines resorted to either blackening the front sight with lighters to make them easier to see against a jungle backdrop or using the front sight hood (if they had one) to aim at a Japanese soldier instead of the front sight blade. It’s even a bit ironic considering the USMC noticed the problem, swapped to a thicker front sight in the interwar era, and then decided to go back to the thinner front sight blade just a couple years before Pearl Harbor.
@@Verdha603 This. I'm a Marine myself, and I love the Corps, and we objectively did win a victory over the Germans at Bellau Wood. That being said, yeah, Marines weren't picking off individual Germans with iron sights at 800 yards, because that's not realistic. Most of them were dumping mags, and getting any hits by rifle fire by luck. Yeah, the Corps won there, and they fought hard, and like anyone else who has fought Marines, the Germans were impressed. And here lies my pet peeve. "Teufelhunden". Besides the atrocious way the Corps pronounces this (it should be "toyfelhoonden", not "toofelhuhnden"), it's still bad German. A German who wanted to say Marines fought like devil dogs would've said "Teufels Hünde". And there's no evidence they even said that, and the "devil dog" bullshit predated Bellau Wood anyway
I wouldn’t trust my life to a revolver in part because, if the other guy is armed, it’s probably with something like a Glock or an AR15 and I’d be wildly outgunned. Capacity and speed/ease of use go a long way in why I wouldn’t recommend a revolver to anyone for self defense.
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry For fantasy Hollywood "gunfights," I would agree with you. Real-world statistics, however, are VERY different: typical "average" armed encounters, a supermajority, occur within 20 feet; less than 7 yards. Additionally, supposing these are concealed carry incidents and not uniformed LE incidents, the concealer typically has the element of surprise and may be able to 1) choose their opportunity to shoot and 2) shoot first. Post or mid-event reloads are so statistically uncommon as to be practically non-existent. In the likely scenarios, a 5-shot S&W J Frame, for example, would be an ideal self-defense tool, exhibiting good on-target wounding capacity, accuracy, reliability, easy carry, and concealability. And with practice, a revolver is reloadable from a speedloader quite quickly. www.luckygunner.com/lounge/the-true-distance-of-a-typical-gunfight/
When I did a press check on my M4 during a string of fire at the range in basic, my fuddish DS started screaming at me about how braindead I was for forcing a double feed and refused any explanation
Calling someone 'racist' in the 2020s no longer means anything. It's basically on par with calling someone "communist"- anyone who says a thing you don't like. Why people still get riled up by it is beyond me.
Congrats on 15k subs! Love your videos and this is a great one! I wouldn’t call this one Fuddlore, but we need to talk about the “low serial number” 1903s…
My favorite has to be the Myth about how the slide stop slide release will damage the slide catch. Just a few hours ago one of my supervisors ( 22 year old female) at my armed DC SPO job , chastised me for using the slide stop slide release because According to her, you can damage the firing pin 😂, mind you I'm 30 year's old, been shooting since I was 4, have been in this field since I was 22, I train regularly, and I have a general interest in firearms , lol maybe even an obsession 😂. Now I'm not saying that I'm a firearms expert pr that I know everything on the subject, but what I do know is that I'm far more knowledgeable than she is, to the point where I've probably forgot more information on the subject then she's processed. Rant over, great video .
Kinda the opposite, but the Army in BCT being obsessed with getting rifles carbon free led to people using steel pieces to scrape at the bolt and BCG, which slowly runins the Parkerized finish
I agree with you on glocks and revolvers, I've had revolvers with timing issues, indexing and internal issues that are completely stuffed. Generally I've found revolvers to be worse than self loaders, but I deal mainly with old trashed guns that haven't been looked after. I personally don't like glock at all.. but I carry one everyday at work and I know it will work everytime
Once upon a time an old fudd told me you can't kill a coyote with a 30-30 rifle at 100 yards and you can't hit the side of a barn with a 1911 at 25 yards.
That is quite the proclamation 😂 think I’m gonna shoot and post a part two for this video today, getting lots of good recommendations to add to the list
Tom Horn called and would like to have a word with that man. Horn was supposed to be using a rifle length barrel 30-30 with a half stock and getting 200+ yard shots. Even with a 20" you can get 200 yard shots. Though 150 shots are a lot more practical.
@@bower31 Yep the military tends to use hardware till it falls completely apart. I saw a pic of one of our guys in Iraq with a Mossberg shotgun that looked like it first entered service in Nam. Most of the finish was worn off the receiver and a lot of the barrel. Apparently still worked just fine though.
@@Wastelandman7000 Having served in an Iraq/Afghanistan equivalent scenario, everything getting sandblasted by the wind is a very real thing. That stuff is like moon regolith, very fine and sharp. No finish is immune to it, everything will start showing bare metal surprisingly quickly. Not arguing against your point, just my 2c.
Revolvers can absolutely bind, that is a bit of fuddlore anyone who's ever used literally any revolver knows is false, so i wonder where it even cones from.
One thing about a revolver, if you have a misfire, just pull the trigger again, with a semiautomatic pistol, a defective cartridge requires that the slide must be manipulated somehow. Which action might be easier and more instinctual to perform in high stress situation, and needs no practice or training?
First time on this channel and I am already very, very jealous of the room you are in. How I was taught: Revolvers malfunction less, but when they do, it is usually catastrophic to the point of making the weapon useless. Semi autos malfunction more but are often quickly fixed by racking the slide or something similar.
Good presentation! I think the 1911 lore stems from anecdotes about its comparative effectiveness and stopping power collected from combat in the Philippines and WW2. E.g., Alvin York, Walsh, Baggett, Warner. I've never owned one and my grandpa (WW2 Marine) wasn't a fan, fwiw. He did say that Marines were taught in basic that the .45 would knock a man down if he was struck in the hand or arm. Some of the 1911's mythical powers may have been embellishment to give soldiers confidence in their weapons, but I have to think that its reputation isn't totally unearned.
Thanks for watching! It is certainly a great gun and one of the most iconic of all time, the stories definitely started somewhere and your theory is definitely a solid one!
A revolver is much more immune from proximity failures and gripping failures during close encounters of the grappling kind. Given that I am more likely to end up in that situation than a gang war extended shootout I favor the revolver for my main weapon. However, I am an advocate of carrying a second gun which could be either a wheelie or an auto. Of course there is whippersnapper lore too like Glock perfection. 😊😇
A squib round in a revolver can be very challenging and dangerous to clear. There is potential for a bullet to halfway enter the barrel and lock the cylinder in place
I had this happen actually, and I know a guy that turned an S&W M1917 barrel into a split banana peel cause he didn’t notice he had a squib halfway down the barrel
Okay I gotta push back a bit on the revolver thing. Yes I suppose if you subject a handgun to the mud of verdun, a semi auto is probably going to be easier to get back in action. Crimp jump is a thing that can happen and that will also jam a revolver. I’ve owned dozens of handguns, both revolvers and semi autos. Leaving aside 22 primers that don’t go off (common issue and has nothing to do with being fired in a semi auto or revolver), I’ve only ever even seen one malfunction with a revolver. Bullet jumped crimp in an aluminum frame 38 and jammed the gun up. Checked the rest of the ammo in that box and you could actually pull the bullets out by hand. It was Remington factory ammo and I’ve never seen ammo that poor quality before or since. I’ve seen literally too many semi auto jams than I can count. Ruger LCPs, several 1911s, glocks, sigs, CZs, etc. It happens. Obviously revolvers can jam and any gun can have parts break (revolvers being a bit more complicated to repair if and when this happens), but in my experience with dozens of different varieties of hand guns, revolvers are definitely significantly more reliable. Not infallible. Just more reliable
What keeps me depending on my revolvers over my autos is just that I hit better with them. Maybe someday that will change, but I may not live that long.
You’d be surprised how many people have actually argued me that it’s a valid point though, the meme started somewhere lol. To most people though yes, it is a joke
By the way most refer to a FUDD, I qualify, why? Let's see, I think a M1911A1is beautiful and FOUGHT in not winning two World Wars, the Korean War and the Viet Nam War and was still in service when I joined the Army in 1985. I like it for the ammo it fires and is a piece of American heritage. With that said, if I was to have an EDC, I would go with a Glock 23, I like a little more punch than the 9mm but that's just me. I agree with Patton on thinking that the M-1 Garand is best firearm ever created for a rifle. Again, I would grab an AR-15 any model between the A1 to A4 if I had to start defending my home or country. Why? Logistics. It would be easier to get 5.56mm ammo than 30-06 ammo for a Garand. When I left combat arms (Cavalry Scout) and moved to a more rear area job (MP) I finally got the basic load out that I always wanted when I was a scout, an M16 with a pistol (M9). I wanted the pistol as an "OH S**T" weapon when the enemy was right on top of me, and I was out of rifle ammo. I'm 64 now and I have my favorites for firearms but I'm also a realist when it comes to what a firearm would be used for. Nostalgia will not always keep you alive, you have to be practical.
For being able to acknowledge the practicality of modern firearms, you basically disqualify yourself from being a Fudd in my eyes. Thank you for your service!
I agree about revolvers vs semi autos jamming. But you are over looking with a semi a misfire needs to be manually cleared a revolver just pull the trigger again. This is part of the reason I carry a revolver rather than a semi
You’re not wrong, but I honestly think 100 % of any and all Fudds I’ve ever encountered were older white dudes. Usually in a Cabela’s, Sportsman’s Warehouse or at a random gun store or shooting range
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry that has been my experience as well. But the term is not racial and whoever accused you of that doesn’t know what they’re talking about and sees everything through a racial lens. “Fudd” has equal racial implication to “Internet troll” (i.e., none).
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry You don't live where I do apparently. Some of the biggest fudd foolishness I deal with on a regular basis is middle aged black men who want "Dillingers", by which they mean "derringers". I work at a gun store, and I've heard it so much that "y'all got Dillengers" is a line that immediately makes all my coworkers laugh. These are always black men in their 50s or 60s, usually "instructing" younger women who I assume are their daughters. "Get yourself two Dillengers, .32 or .38! That's the best defense you can get!". This isn't to say I don't deal with white fudds too, because I do, and they're every bit as obnoxious. The white fudds tend to love revolvers, and specifically to think a .22 revolver is "the best gun for my wife" (it's not). But black fudds do exist, they are immensely fond of derringers, most of them call them "Dillengers", and they are every bit as retarded as any other fudd is.
There are plenty of examples of Type 99s that would have been made with monopods, dust covers, cleaning rods and AA sights and all of those parts have been stripped off. Plenty of those rifles also have all of their screws still factory staked in place so hadn't been messed with otherwise. There is good circumstantial evidence that the Japanese were taking those parts off of early rifles in the scrap metal drives very late in the war. I've also seen recent pictures from Iwo Jima with the rusted hulks of rifles stacked up that still retain their dust covers and monopods. So I don't think this was something that the Japanese soldiers did themselves, but more like sending those to strip parts from rifles warehoused in Japan. The vast majority of bringbacks came out of Japan post surrender and aren't actual battlefield pickups hence why rifles retaining their monopods are less common.
You know, my grandad was a pretty heavy dude in WW2, working as an “SLU” between Bletchley Park, the SHAEF staff, and the various European commanders. He never discussed his war - not least because, as Stephen Ambrose learned, the various British vows of secrecy had no end and the threat was of a “de-bollocking.” He was all over Europe - in Paris before it fell, captured and turned a spy in Cherbourg, and was in the room when Gen. McAuliffe said his famous “nuts!” He was later a four-term member of Congress during the Eisenhower administration. Anyway, all that is to say that his lone “bring back” and only pistol he owned, the first pistol I ever shot at that, was an SS Hi-Power.
Great video, and congrats on the subscribers! I just subscribed myself. I agree with you on this. Only push back I would give is on the 1911 being wholly outdated for use in the modern area. While double stack 9s are in almost all cases better for combat roles (i.e better to have more ammo if you don’t know when you’d be resupplied, or likely to be in an extended gun fight), id say it still has a place in defensive roles where round count is much less likely to play a role. But like you said there is some opinion involved in this topic. I’d still prefer my Browning HP or other 9’s if shtf but the 1911 comes with me for self defense. Maybe I got lucky and got a good 1911 from the factory but I haven’t yet found another pistol in .45 with the same combination of accuracy, reliability, slimness, manual safety (and few other features) than my Colt. Just my two cents. Congrats again👍
Thank you kindly! The funny thing about the 1911 is my best modern handgun was a Sig 1911, but after owning two that were sub-par at best I started thinking the first one may have been a fluke. Thanks again!
The Fudd Lore on "M1911 won two world wars" might work if you compare it to only other pistols. It did do a lot of work with multiple militaries in both, and was even used by air crews in WW1. Doesn't actually make it better than a modern pistol but still
I'm older but ,i keep up.i carry the largest gun i can conceal comfortably. I fall and winter i have a Glock 27 with a 13 round mag or the 9 round.a Sig 365 i another i carry. In summer a lcp or a NAA mini 22 mag .or sometime a 5 shot j frame in my pocket. Life is good. I avoid trouble i don't got to bars or bad areas and i live in a safer area.thanks for the video
I found this video thanks to a "pretending to be fudds" group I am in. You sold me on this the second you mentioned someone commented and claimed that you are a racist for using the word "fudd". As a Canuck, fuddlore is EVERYWHERE up here, to an annoying degree.
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry The ones I hear the most often up here are the following: "All you gotta do is rack a pump shotgun and it'll scare the bad guys away!" "Dat mossberg foreend is so damn rattly it'll scare the deer away!" "5.56 is just a poodle shooter! Back in MUH day we used the ol' FNs! (Our FN FAL Variant, the C1 rifle) and dem things were WAY better and had more STAWPPIN POWAH dan those GAHBAGE C7s (M16 variant) with dem plastic stocks and plastic mags (We adopted thermold mags with the C7. Huge mistake)!" "Dem commie guns are gahbage rods dat can't hit a broad side of a barn!" "Revolvers never jam, sonny!" "5.56 is designed to wound, not kill!" (I Was seriously told this during my basic training, couldn't help but roll my eyes after hearing that. They kept repeating average number of rounds fired vs kills as proof that 5.56 is too weak, despite our doctrine literally requiring us to fire multiple rounds just to keep a guys head down) Shockingly, a LOT of fuddlore has it's origins from the military and law enforcement world. And some of it has SOME basis in fact, but is either no longer accurate OR was never true to begin with.
@burnyburnoutze2nd that is what makes this complicated to talk about for a civilian like me, enough of these myths have military origins that without fail someone will think you are disrespecting the military by calling it out as false. See the segment about Arisaka dust covers, there are swarms of people that come out shouting “but my grandpa was there and he said…” etc. The fact is, being in the military or police doesn’t automatically make you an expert in firearms history. I know plenty of military and police veterans that are, but I know plenty that aren’t. Side note, I may have to reference a few that you listed next time I do this, there’s some gold in there lol
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry I learned that the hard way after joining the Canadian Forces that just because someone is military or law enforcement, that it doesn't automatically mean that they are firearms experts. The vast majority of people who join military or LEO have little to no firearms experience whatsoever. There's even some military lore that is the cause of things like hating a certain service weapon because it has stoppages constantly. In our case, the browning Hi power pistol, which is only recently started getting replaced by a Sig Sauer P320 variant. The ones we use are all John Inglis produced 1944 to 1950s era guns that have been used and abused constantly for 80+ years, it's a friggen miracle they even function at all after all of that haha. Because of that, many guys whos only experience with the hi power is a negliected and abused 1940s era gun hate the hi power in general, in a very similar veign to vets who hate the M9 and Beretta 92 family entirely for similar reasons.
I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of 1911 pistols stayed in the holsters of officers throughout the entire WW1 and WW2. Also revolvers reliability is greatly overrated. Had one that needed to be fixed after it went out of timing.
Id heard that when captured weapons were brought back by soldiers they had the bolts removed from the rifles for safety reasons on the way back. It would be easy to misplace or just not include a nonessential part when putting them back together later.
I wouldn't say the greatest, as there are quite a few contenders for that. I think the Garand was superior to the m14. But, the FN-FAL was probably a better combat weapon than the M14 in that era.
Good one- my uncle was telling me how he has a Ruger Blackhawk for carry in Texas. Doubt its CCW...but he said he got a "good ol crimson tracer laser on their as a back up"" like in what world would iron sights break on a revolver? Obviously he has never shot with a red dot laser during the day time outside...I zero'd a TLR 6 Laser that came with the flashlight on my Glock 48 on an INDOOR RANGE. That shit was hard to see even there. Also "I don't like plastic guns. They break in the cold and they melt when it's hot outside and shot too many rounds." Just man.
Iconic weapons you listed and the reasons why. I carried 3 sidearms in service. The 1911a1, M9 Beretta (23 of those years) and finally the SIG 229 40 cal. All had their strengths and weaknesses. The most difficult to master imho was the 1911a1. You needed a lot of time training and practice under professional instruction to get good. Now once you get the hang of them, you love them. The M9 was absolutely fantastic, I heard so much negative feedback from other veterans about them. But I never had any problems shooting or carrying it as a full sized service weapon. The SIG while I feel I could get the hang of the way the trigger worked, i immediately did not like it. I love most revolvers with only a few exceptions. The 686 is an incredible weapon, and my old colt .22 the same. I had an old s&w .44 mag I just couldn’t shoot well. And I shot my friends Ruger that just didn’t work well. But the Fudd term is still in effect. Had my son speak ill of the 9mm cartridge saying it bounces off windshields. Must have heard that in a movie and it somehow became fact. Best way to expel BS is to in fact do your own research by testing. Have a great day
It's funny, most people like the M9, I never really did. In over 35 years of Army Aircrew service, I was issued a .38 (4"bbl), then the M9 after Desert Storm, then the M17 in the end. The .38 was easy to clean and easy to recover the brass, but had it's limitations, of course. The M9 was, eh, okay, I guess, just seemed clunky, had terrible sights, and an open cut slide. I know I am going to get hate for this, but I kinda liked the M17. I liked the trigger (striker fired pin), the sights, and the overall feel. I may be in the minority though.
I myself could never bring myself to like the Glocks that I was issued in law enforcement. I have a Jercho 941 that I adore. Yes it is heavy. I also like my 357 snobby SP101.
This is true. Because I've seen quite a few tacticool types acting like a 5.56 has similar balistics and barrier penetration to a .308. Um....yeah, right.
One point about Revolvers and bolt action rifles vs. Semi-automatic rifles and pistols- the former are not ammunition sensitive; you have a lot more options while retaining reliable functioning. Does pointing this out make me a Fudd?🤔
I'm interested your response to this statement: "Within a scenario that doesn't include extreme conditions like mud, sand, etc., a well cleaned and maintained revolver from a modern and reputable manufacturer is slightly less likely to fail (fail meaning a stoppage between rounds requiring the shooter to perform an action other than continuing to pull the trigger to fire another round) than a well cleaned and maintained semi-automatic from a modern and reputable manufacturer."
Your 100% right. Type 38 and Type 99 dust covers do not rattle as long as their matching to the rifles, which most don't now. The rattling dust cover is really a post WW2 thing. I highly doubt anyone actually believes that the 1911 won 2 world wars but I could be wrong. I think that is more of a tongue in cheek type thing or they just mean that the 1911 just happened to be on the winning side in both world wars. You should do more videos on gun myths. Most guns out there have at least one myth attributed to them unless they are really obscure. My favorite myth is the proper pronunciation of the M1 Garand. The real pronunciation is M1 rifle because that's what it actually says on the rifle and that's what people actually referred to them in WW2 and Korea. M1 Garand is a collector term that came after its military use. I say M1 Garand in public just so people know what I'm talking about but I hate using that term.
I do know two dudes that will genuinely argue that the 1911 was what determined our victory in both World Wars and I find it hilarious. Thanks for watching!
Fudds exist as does Fudd lore. Some of it is pretty comical. Some just stupid. But I don’t think all of it is meant to be taken seriously. Your first example, for instance: Some might consider me a bit of a Fudd. Not from an ideological standpoint but just because I’m getting older and I like old-timey guns. I know I’ve uttered the phrase, “The Colt Government Model won two world wars.” I’ve always seen that as a bit of colorful hyperbole. It never occurred to me that anyone would actually believe that the 1911 was the deciding factor in those victories. I don’t know; maybe I give people too much credit?
I think most people view it the way you do, but there definitely are people who take it very seriously in my experience. I will grant that most are saying it as hyperbole, but not all
My favorite is "The 45-70 is the only government I need" LOL Mind you, considering you could probably take down an elephant with that thing, they might have a point.
Ah the old “Jap Crap” legends (their words, not mine) definitely heard that circulated a bit. I will grant that they often don’t function as well as early examples, but they are only truly unsafe if you don’t know how they operate (the Nambu Type 94 is the prime example of this)
@@samiam619that was really genius engineering on the Japanese part, make a training rifle able to load real ammo that will blow it up. Maybe it was actually a last ditch suIcide grenade
@@Nathan-jh1hoI mean those were never meant to be near real ammunition and Japan has never been a society where the common person had access to arms and ammunition.
I imagine that there were a fair amount of small arms kills due to pistol calibers like the .45ACP, just that those rounds didn't come out of a pistol.
There is so much “Fuddlore” about the 1911 and .45 acp that you could spend hours on it. They used to say the recoil was so stout that recruits couldn’t handle it so the came up with the M1 carbine. Now they call it .45 AARP and say the recoil is weak. As far as Browning Hipower vs 1911. J M Browning designed it about 30 years later, so it is improved. Won’t even go into .45 vs 9mm.
I’ve seen how fuddlore develops. It usually starts with a gun that’s out of spec and does something wrong. Then they never shoot that type of gun and assume it’ll always do that. For example, some .32 smith and Wesson revolvers can chamber .32 acp because their revolver is out of spec.
Good point, I have semi autos too. But I mostly back pocket carry. I can't stand the little pocket semi autos, much more comfortable with my LCR or even a J frame. When I do hip carry it's either a 4 inch SP101 or my G19
Nobody knows what self defense situation you will come across in the future. In any fight those who have the advantage wins. In a gun fight its speed, accuracy and fire power. I would also say there's no such thing as the best self defense gun. Its down to your taste and what threats you think you might encounter. Mr Thud in the woods is going to have a different threat to Quantarious in the Ghetto
Nova Scotia fudd-lore: one needs a 5 shot magazine for your bolt action 303 Lee Enfield for big game hunting in that province. This lie has real feet in the Maritimes.
A British Columbia Fudd lore on the .303 is that its the only rifle allowed to have 10 rounds of center fire in its magazine because of the vast amount of them in Canada.
Ive had revolvers, glocks, ARs, AKs, 1911s, pump actions, bolt actions, lever actions etc malfunction. manurhin m73 and SCARs has a pretty decent rep but I don’t have either. But id agree on average revolvers rend to be better then 1911s. I often carry a revolver since animals are here as often as people so magnums can help, also i think they are cool.
To be fair.. A glock will jam if you limp wrist it which... is most likely to happen of course when you are in an off balance or one handed defensive situation.. Also... revolvers don't go out of 'battery' which is something that often happens in.... a defensive situation... lol also with a shrouded hammer ... on a ....revolver you can fire the gun multiple times from a jacket pocket which is most likely to happen. well you get the idea dont get me started on hip and point shooting
Is it weird that I have guns but I’m not really a “gun guy?” I know how the ones I own work, how to clean them, how to maintain them and how to shoot them reasonably well. Same with guitars. I have several, I’m pretty good with them but I’m not a guitar guy. More a player than a guitar dude. I basically ignore all other guitars and guns. Usually, in my experience, “gun guys” or “guitar guys” are just equipment snobs and aren’t usually all that good at what they do.
I wouldn’t say it’s weird, different people are into different hobbies in different ways 🤷🏻♂️ I’m into both as well, but definitely lean more heavily into historic guns than anything
I have a truck, sometimes I use it for truck things ("hey free furniture on Facebook marketplace let's go get it!"). Beat to hell '88 Ford Ranger. Wouldn't call myself a truck guy. I guess it's more if you make it your true hobby that it becomes a "gun guy" situation
Maybe this was before goggle .the best one I heard from a guy I told him I reloaded 44 mag rounds for my 1894 Marlin .he tells me he didn’t trust reloads because when the brass went through the barrel it ruined the brass .
@@bobyjones3905 I am sure that if any of the brass goes through the barrel you'd agree that brass is ruined. Heck the whole gun is ruined with a reasonable likelihood.
Revolvers are attractive because there is no magazine to fail, no continuous expense for magazines. Reliable? In 2024-25. Both types are reliable in quality guns. The only gun I have ever had COMPLETE fail, was a revolver. This was a manufacturing issue and solved by the maker. Glad I wasn’t in a fight when that happened though!
Pistols played a larger part in trench warfare than people give credit for. Pistols also played a large roll in WW2 and Korea. The use of pistols in warfare really had begun to dwindle during and before the Vietnam war.
I am curious about revolvers and their reliability. Typically revolvers are going to have a catastrophic failure when they fail where as auto loaders most often will have magazine failures. Are revolvers for some reason more likely to have that catastrophic failure and if so why? If a catastrophic failure is as likely to happen in a revolver as in an auto loader then wouldn't a revolver be considered more reliable since, as you said the more moving parts the more likely to have problems? I personally have had many magazine failures, yes even with OEM Glock magazines, and have never had any catastrophic failure in either a revolver or auto loader. I have put in the realm of at least 2000 rounds through the majority of my firearms, both revolvers and autoloaders. Please correct me if I am wrong on this.
Magazine failures are definitely more common than catastrophic failures, I suppose the point I was driving at is that revolvers aren’t infallible. Particularly in mud. In more controlled environments they are definitely less likely to fail, but in a less controlled environment the likelihood of a failure is both greater and more problematic
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry that I can absolutely agree with I’ve just always heard the fudd lore and then heard rebuttals and I guess while I don’t carry a revolver because of lower capacity, the double action trigger, and slow reloads I also have to admit that I’ve never had any malfunctions with my modern revolver’s…likewise I’ve never had catastrophic malfunctions with any auto loaders…thank you
Revolvers aren’t any more of less likely to have catastrophic failures than a pistol. The difference is that if something breaks in a revolver, you generally aren’t going to get it up and running again. I’ve had a spring break inside the frame that made it so I had to take the frame screws out and replace the spring before the hammer would cock. I’ve had multiple cases of the ejector rod loosening up and jamming the cylinder up. And on the newer S&W’s with the “safety lock”, I have seen a .44 Magnum lock itself up from recoil and needing the user to dig out his key to unlock the revolver. The general difference I point out between the two is this; pistols are more likely to have a malfunction, but most of the time it will be one you can correct (ie tap and rack, change magazines, etc.). A revolver is less likely to malfunction, but if it does, it either keeps chugging along (ie bad ammo means you just pull the trigger again and the cylinder rotates go a good round) or it is now just a steel club (ie internal spring broke or ejector rod is loose and now the revolver can no longer fire, and needs you to sit down and open it up or you need a gunsmith to help you).
So first off. It's very common for gun owners to be out right rude over simple disagreements. THAT BEING SAID. Id like to dispute what you said about revolvers. And ill try to not make this overly long winded. The reason revolvers are considered more reliable than automatics is the simple operation. You won't get a failure to feed on a revolver. Won't get a double feed. You might get a failure to fire. When it happens, pull the trigger again. You COULD get a failure to extract, but that is exceedingly rare if you eject the rounds with the muzzle up, and it is impossible with a moon clipped revolver like the 1917 (my favorite military pistol btw) and the idea that mud and gunk would destroy the barrel is possible however I'd argue unlikely with a magnum revolver, both because the magnum revolver throws more carbon put of the cylinder gap pushing debris away, and because they are built to higher qualities than pre1935 revolvers. Additionally, I've heard that in ww1 or 2 can't remember, the USGI would occasionally tie the magazine to the pistols lanyard loop on the 1911 because in the excitement of close combat, it was common to dump the magazine. That issue didn't exsist with the 1917 Also, I've had quite a few glocks that have jammed. Everything from stove pipe to double feed. And yes, oem mags, slide, barrel, the works. So in conclusion, my point being. Revolvers ARE more reliable. If even by .001% more reliable than a modern semi auto. I think alot of people think revolvers are less reliable because they try to maintain it the same way they maintain an auto. No, you don't just oil it and run the revolver. You have to keep the carbon from building in the key areas. That would cause a jam. Which, a jam on a revolver equates to a harder trigger pull, and eventually a full lock up. I've done it. I'm not saying revolvers are better, but for me they are better. Both have short comings, autos and revolvers. Whichever one you're willing to deal with is what you should carry. I don't make a habit of telling people what they should do, rather what I do.
@GreatNorthwestWeaponry I always wanted one, but I simply can't decide on the s w or the colt versions. I do a left hand reload (I do have a short video on it) so I guess the s w would be the way to go. Really wish a company would recreate the 1917, with a modern magnum frame chambered in 45 win mag. But I digress lol
Another benefit of the S&W is that it can function without a moon clip, the cylinder chambers are necked down to keep the casings from slipping too far forward (you’d still have to individually remove each casing if you tried this considering the lack of rims, but with the Colt it isn’t an option) I also just prefer the S&W positive extraction over Colt’s, which I’ve always experienced to be rougher and more likely to fail but that is at least partially a personal opinion
A revolver won't go out of battery in the same way either My edc for the last 24years has been a charter arms undercover 38special that I inherited from my great grandfather and it was his backup duty weapon for almost 30years before that. I have and carry both as the situation requires. But I would trust my life with either,but if I was going into a situation and had the option to pick,I'd 8 out of 10 times take a good ol 357!😊
I grew up with Saturday morning cartoons. Elmer Fudd had one gun and was a hunter only. I have dozens of (mostly handguns) of guns and don't hunt. my guns are mostly revolvers and range from a 1917 model Smith to a 69 Python to a newish 629 my semi autos are mostly 1911's cause I love em. but I have many historic semis... I am a 'Fudd' to some because I don't like plastic guns. I like historic guns... mostly tho I like ACCURATE guns I have been handloading for 50+ years. Actually tho... revolvers are more reliable but the difference is very small with quality guns. by the same token... I don't throw my guns in the mud.
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The dust cover thing needs this added
Aboard ship the bolts and dust cover were removed from the rifle then placed back together stateside almost always with a different bolt thus the rattling
Very true
Also why mismatched bolts are very common.
the bolts had to be removed for shipment when you take the bolt out the dust cover becomes loose this probably was an annoyance so they werent shipped with the guns.
Another thing, the ariskika rifle got its terrible reputation due to American troops confusing blank firing training rifles with the real things due to A. The Japanese made more blank rifles than other nations and B. Them making the rifles too similar to their live fire counterparts
@@adamhauskins6407 Jap rifles were mangled by Marines. That makes me happy. On the other hand, as a fan of milsurps, I kinda want a Jap rifle that WASN'T mangled by Marines. Though on the other hand, if Marines mangled it, tossed off the dust cover and rubbed out the Chrysanthemum, that's a sign of USMC dominance over Japan. And this is why I don't own an Arisaka
I got some Fudd lore and it’s a good one. The ping from the M1 Garand alerted enemy troops that American troops were empty and the enemy would charge and attack. Congratulations on 15k subs you’re a little bit more closer to 100k subs.
Yeah that one’s a classic, may have to bring it up on the next video like this. And thank you!
Ping!!! New subscriber!!! US Model of 1917 is the best bolt action rifle. Allegedly. I still haven’t fired my UF55 series Mummy Enfield yet. Cosmoline still packed in the action from the factory.
I can’t remember who said it “you just shot 30-06 everyone is deaf” but that shit was funny he was regarding the myth
@ Plus it’s not just you that’s shooting it’s everyone and I can’t even imagine being that close to hear the ping.
Yeah, but the g i caught up to that and had their own little tricks the same in the Pacific😅
“A 50 BMG will rip your arm off with a near miss!” Is my favorite one
We should really quote “the reaper”
Literally argued with a dude about this for 2 years at work until demolition rank did an actual experiment with it. Shot it through a house of cards and the bullet didnt knock a card over on the pass through the center gap. I felt sooooo vindicated
@@alexhutton155???? What were the perimeters? If I shot a hollow point round with my 44 magnum at a deck of cards it would explode into pieces. 50 caliber is obviously larger. Full metal jacket? I'm not buying it
I always thought the "two world wars" thing was both kind of a joke and also a very shorthand way to say the 1911 has a lot of history and success behind it.
For the most part yes, but I have definitely encountered more than my fair share of people who took the term quite seriously. Heck I even use it as a joke from time to time, but I have gotten in arguments with people who truly meant it 😂
"If every bullet hit every man, where would the king get all his soldiers from?"
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Thank you kindly!
My fudd story:was plinking at a comp target 60 yards doing mag drills, double taps,with a AR15. Some carhart wearing old timer was saying if you had a scope you would have to waste ammo trying to hit the target. Told him this is a fun gun not a serious gun he shock his head kinda like in disbelief you own guns for fun. Part 1.
@@HeavyJay1421 My fudd story: took a new lady I'd just started seeing out shooting for the first time. We're shooting my suppressed LWRC M6IC at 25 yards, and she's not doing that bad. Old guy in the next lane has some kind of black powder .45-70, a Sharps or whatever. Not gonna lie, it was cool. But then the range goes cold, I go to change targets, and Elmer there with the black powder is talking with his buddy who isn't even shooting at all. He's gesturing at my rifle (which is a $4000 setup) and he's all "that's not a gun, that's an erector set". Now, because I'd just started seeing this girl, I'm trying not to act like an asshole. So when I walk past him I'm all "it's a whole lot more practical than what you've got". He's all upset and sputtering "OH YEAH, TRY HITTING AT 1200 YARDS WITH THAT!!!!" as if anyone could hit at 1200 yards with a black powder .45-70. So I just laughed. And when we were done shooting, we went to a brewery, and then back to her place. We're still together. And this dumbass went back home by himself to masturbate vigorously to a woodcut of the Battle of Little Bighorn or some such nonsense.
Old guns are cool. Pretending they're better than new guns is stupid.
@@MrEvanfriendthey’re not better for the intended purpose, however I have to disagree about the 1200 yard’s statement.
@alanmeyers3957 A modern gun is going to be objectively better than a black powder rifle for literally any practical purpose. There's a reason that we moved to smokeless powder. Black powder rifles are still cool because historical weapons are inherently cool. But they're not practical for any application anymore, any more than a spear is.
I grew up surrounded by fudds so I've heard some amazing fudd lore like "the M14 is the greatest rifle ever made, we only switched to 5.56 because it doesn't kill the guy you shoot with it and you can shoot the medic that goes to help him" "nobody needs an AR-15" "22LR is the best ammunition for soldiers because they can carry more rounds" "ak-47s are inaccurate but you don't have to clean them they'll just run forever"
May use all of these if and when I do a part 3 😂 I’ve heard most of them but man there’s so many to keep track of
My 3 inch 629 jammed one time. I was shooting 240 grain hand loaded bullets. Because of the sharp recoil, The cartridge length instantly grew and was greater than the maximum length. The cylinder would not turn for anything. I have remedied the problem by using 180 grain projectiles with a heavy crimp. My lesson is you have to shoot what you carry. I trust my life to that gun every day.
Part 2 to my fudd story: thier was 100 yard target silhouette steel he was hitting it with a 308 bolt. Then for fun I brought my 10/22 with no bipod lvpo scope. Missed a few shot and started smacking the target with a 22lr we had to take turns a bit hitting the target them he asked how I was hitting the target at 100 yards with 22. I told him the max range for my rifle is 100 yards. (I know I'm not grouping just hitting)
As an Imperial Japan specialist, I appreciate the dust cover inclusion. There is, understandably, a lot of fudd lore remaining in the English-speaking world. Not only from hearsay, but from reliance on wartime US intelligence sources which were, after all, based on incomplete information and only had to be good enough for practical purposes. However, Japanese militaria publications have gone far deeper on this stuff since at least the 1980s. With the original spec documents available online now, primary source research on gear has also never been easier anywhere in the world.
Fun fact: Officially, only the Type 30 rifle/carbine were called the 'Arisaka.' I can find occasional contemporary reference to later models by the name in Japanese, but your average soldier spoke of the 'thirty-eight/three-eight' or the 'ninety-nine/nine-nine,' etc.
Cool info, thanks! And thank you for watching 👍🏻
Plus Nambu did most of the design work on the Type 38+ rifles. Arisaka himself pretty much only worked on the Type 30 and maybe the 35, both of which the action is massively different from the 38+ guns. It’s more a turnbolt Mannlicher type bolt (with some major changes) coupled with a Mauser 93 type magazine.
I think Arisaka just became common because it became the name stuck onto Japanese bolt guns and we ran with it.
Here's a sample of the Fuddness I've personally heard over the years. 1. Bigger calibers hit the hardest of all. Any .45 hits the hardest and will knock a man off his feet. .44 magnums are the most devastating handguns of all. After all, that's what Dirty Harry had. 2. A .22 magnum with a hollow point hits just like a .38 S&W. 3.They replaced the M14 with the M16 because a hit with a M16 takes out two men because it just wounds the first and makes the second have to attend to his buddy. 4.You have to have a .30/06 or a 7mm magnum to reliably bring down a deer. Shoot a deer with a .270 and it is more likely to run off. 5.M16s in Vietnam were made by Mattel Toy Company. 6.30/30 is fine to shoot through brush. .35 Remington, too. If you use anything else, the bullet will bounce all over the place and not hit anything. 7.Police departments went to 9mm because they're afraid of killing bad guys and getting sued...oh, and because they've got lots of wimps and women that can't shoot.9. Anything with "magnum" behind it is always more deadly and "kills harder when you shoot it" (exact words). 10. High base and magnum shot shells shoot tighter, hit harder, go faster, and go further (wrong, it just puts out more shot. Nearly all shot leaves a shotgun barrel at somewhere between 1200 and 1300 feet per second) 11. There's a difference between a 1911 and a Korean War .45. 12. Derringers and snub nose pistols are useless because nobody can hit with them except women, who need to have them because they're small and easy to use. 12. Anything that kicks hard hits hard. 13. Longer shotgun barrels pattern tighter and hit harder with all shot shells.
That’s quite a gold mine 🤣
Oh, two more: "I shoot a pump shotgun. Pumps and double barrels hit stronger because automatics have to take some of the power away to work the action". "Don't let your finger get caught in the action of a Browning Sweet Sixteen when it shuts. I'll take it clean off."
Good stuff 😂
Anyone claiming a revolver wont jam, has never had an empty slip under the extractor star.
How lol
That’s user error and must’ve been a .22lr
@@Tommy-ni1yw No and no.
@@Tommy-ni1ywit can happen to any revolver.
@@baneofbanes I suppose anything CAN happen... but it just doesn't. After thousands of rounds and 20 years of quarterly revolver qualification and training with a S&W Model 60 and 640 that has never happened to me. Not once. It's practically impossible with a double action centerfire revolver.
I watched a video about tactical lever actions and said I prefer old school, walnut, blued steel, a sling with swivels and see thru rings for the scope so you can still utilize your iron sights. Someone made a response calling me a fudd.
Man the whole concept of a tactical lever action is a fudds dream 🤣 leave my lever guns alone lol
I like old school too. Too often Fudd is used for anyone who isn't into tacticool guns. That being said, my view is, its your gun, you can do whatever you want with it. I mean they can put sonar on the danged gun for all I care. Not my gun, not my problem.
Pot calling the kettle black
@@Welltron-3030 I never called the people who prefer a tactical firearm any names so why do they disrespect others?
@User-nx7rs true, but on top of that, the lack of self awareness of that person is truly hilarious
i don't like the term "fudd"
elmer fudd was a good man
trolled by bugs bunny reguralry but good
At least we can all agree Bugs was the real villain 😂
Nah. Bugs represents the trickster (the devil) he always got one over on Fudd. That means Fudd had no control over the devil on his back. May not make you a bad man but definitely a lacking man
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponrynah. Chaos makes the universe move
I appreciate your communication of the fact that Japanese military gear was property of The Emperor. One way to distinguish a battlefield capture/bringback Japanese weapon from a surrendered Japanese weapon is the the Imperial Chrysanthemum is usually intact on bringbacks, and almost always defaced or ground off on surrendered weapons. Just some random things I've read that float above Fuddlore.
BTW... New subscriber. Curious which sub-region of the Great Northwest do you call home?
Thank you kindly! I’m in Oregon, near Portland (unfortunately) love the state but hate the politics.
On the guns with chrysanthemums I have been very fortunate, got both a Type 99 and Type 38 with the mum 👍🏻
@GreatNorthwestWeaponry Also Oregon, similarly situated and sentimented, but without Arisakas.
@shawnsiltala5730 then you, my friend, must obtain Arisakas. Check out The War Front on 99E (same parking lot as The Bomber) they can hook you up 👍🏻
Eh just because the mum wasn’t ground off doesn’t mean it was a battlefield pick up. My great grandfather brought back an Arisaka from when he was stationed in Japan, thing is according to my great grandmother he got it from a warehouse filled with the rifles, not by capturing it. I’ve heard similar statements elsewhere.
“Don’t shoot those early 1903s sonny… they’ll blow up”😂😂😂😂
They can
@ found the fudd 😂😂😂
its important to remember that the fudds are from a time when real information was hard to come by. we have it pretty good in that regard.
You’re not wrong, it just amazes me how persistent some of those old tales are. Half of the Fuddlore I’ve heard was being told to me by someone closer to my own age (the other half from a select few genuine “fudds)
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry It's the sunken cost fallacy, man. Someone goes out, drops a grand on a Springfield Armory 1911, or a colt revolver, and now they need to justify to themselves that it was a better purchase than a 500 dollar glock (when pragmatically it just isn't, but we both know this)
@@tnutz777 that's not an excuse to to stay ignorant
@@tnutz777 that's not an excuse to stay ignorant
@@FirstnameLastname-le9hqI don't need to rationalize my choices. I made them based on my priorities and being a conformist was not one of them. I don't have a Colt but I have a couple of revolvers and they were chosen for rational reasons as was my 22 auto pistol.
I also had rational reasons for not buying a Glock. Grip doesn't fit me, don't like the trigger, don't like striker fired actions especially with fake safeties.
One of the things I like about my 22 auto is that the design is less susceptible to proximity failures than most.
I may buy a center fire auto at some point as a backup gun. Something like a CZ 75 compact is a possibility. Back in the day the old all metal S&W autos really fit my hand well and I rather liked them. However, after I had a long hiatus due to poverty issues I am gradually rebuilding my collection and brass flingers just aren't a high priority at the moment.
Does the whole myth about an AR-15 or M16 based platforms being unable to handle even a spec of dust still qualify as fudd lore?
do you even have to ask?
@ In all honesty, no not really.
Yes. The fact that people to this day still believe that is mind boggling. It's a completely closed bolt system you can dump mud/dirt all over it and it will still function.
that's more like meme at this point
The m16s used in Vietnam were known for frequently jamming as it was originally meant to fire cartridges with lower pressure (wich seriously fucked the rifle) and sometimes wasn‘t sent with cleaning supplies due to it being a “self cleaning“ system (wich colt claimed). The fudd lore about the M16 is based in reality, though all of the issues the early M16s had were later mostly fixed.
"You can't use a silhouette target unless you're a cop!"
"Just pump that shotty and the bad guy will turn tail and run!"
"The lady wants a pistol? Here. (Slaps airweight snub .38 with pink grips on the counter) nah, there's no way a small little thing like you can hold a glock. Trust me."
"HOLLOWPOINTS ARE ILLEGAL!!!"
"I just bought a (fill in the blank of any turkshit pistol or shotgun) the other day. What a tack driver! Best gun I own especially for the price! Nah, I didn’t get a chance to shoot it yet, but the guy in the store said they're so good they're selling like hotcakes!"
"Of course I'm pro second amendment. BUT...."
And this is only a small sample size of fuddlore I've personally witnessed. I could go on for days recanting all the fuddisms I've been subjected to.
At this point I literally don't care about correcting them either. It would be a waste of time, considering 90 percent of people who spout fuddlore couldn't tell you how they'd feel if they didn’t eat breakfast that morning.
Here in Canada, it is funny to ear people talk about the sporterized . 303 Lee Enfield that they own was issued to there grand father in ww2 and the army let them keep it. The reality was more that grandpa bought it in the 50s, they were plentiful and inexpensive
Lol I've never heard that , but that would he ridiculous. I'm pretty sure the rifle was Government property during and after war.
@@dandesch Sporterizing an SMLE, no matter what model, is a crime against humanity. I have a No.1 Mk III*, I'm trying to negotiate a purchase of a No.4 Mk I, I love the cock on close mechanism, and the Short Magazine Lee-Enfield is arguably the best bolt action battle rifle of all time. Sporterizing it is like drawing a dick going into Mona Lisa's mouth. Disgusting.
@@ObsidianFanedon’t know about in Canada but you hear it quite a bit here in the states about a variety of rifles. A few men snuck their rifles home after the war but that was theft of government property and most didn’t do that.
For more Fudd lore, try that the M1903 was the superior bolt action rifle because soldiers could hit a target 1000 yards away with it.
Battlefields aren’t wide open spaces with clearly identifiable targets that sit still for you to treat it like a rifle qual; WWI Doughboys rarely fired at individual targets beyond 600 yards, and WWII had GI’s engage with small arms fire inside 300 yards 90% of the time in the European Theater, while the Pacific had engagement ranges even closer than that.
Take away the finely adjustable sights better suited for a clean target range than a cluttered forest or jungle, with an enemy that shoots back and actually uses cover and concealment, and the Springfield is no better than any Mauser type rifle used in either war, and I’d even say US troops were at a slight disadvantage with now ridiculously thin the front sight on it was. Multiple accounts from Guadalcanal noted how Marines resorted to either blackening the front sight with lighters to make them easier to see against a jungle backdrop or using the front sight hood (if they had one) to aim at a Japanese soldier instead of the front sight blade. It’s even a bit ironic considering the USMC noticed the problem, swapped to a thicker front sight in the interwar era, and then decided to go back to the thinner front sight blade just a couple years before Pearl Harbor.
@@Verdha603 This. I'm a Marine myself, and I love the Corps, and we objectively did win a victory over the Germans at Bellau Wood.
That being said, yeah, Marines weren't picking off individual Germans with iron sights at 800 yards, because that's not realistic. Most of them were dumping mags, and getting any hits by rifle fire by luck.
Yeah, the Corps won there, and they fought hard, and like anyone else who has fought Marines, the Germans were impressed.
And here lies my pet peeve. "Teufelhunden". Besides the atrocious way the Corps pronounces this (it should be "toyfelhoonden", not "toofelhuhnden"), it's still bad German. A German who wanted to say Marines fought like devil dogs would've said "Teufels Hünde". And there's no evidence they even said that, and the "devil dog" bullshit predated Bellau Wood anyway
The one coming up a lot in my circle of life lately is, "Longer barrels are more accurate."
"I would not trust my life to a revolver." You've been misled, son.
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I wouldn’t trust my life to a revolver in part because, if the other guy is armed, it’s probably with something like a Glock or an AR15 and I’d be wildly outgunned. Capacity and speed/ease of use go a long way in why I wouldn’t recommend a revolver to anyone for self defense.
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry For fantasy Hollywood "gunfights," I would agree with you. Real-world statistics, however, are VERY different: typical "average" armed encounters, a supermajority, occur within 20 feet; less than 7 yards. Additionally, supposing these are concealed carry incidents and not uniformed LE incidents, the concealer typically has the element of surprise and may be able to 1) choose their opportunity to shoot and 2) shoot first. Post or mid-event reloads are so statistically uncommon as to be practically non-existent. In the likely scenarios, a 5-shot S&W J Frame, for example, would be an ideal self-defense tool, exhibiting good on-target wounding capacity, accuracy, reliability, easy carry, and concealability. And with practice, a revolver is reloadable from a speedloader quite quickly. www.luckygunner.com/lounge/the-true-distance-of-a-typical-gunfight/
When I did a press check on my M4 during a string of fire at the range in basic, my fuddish DS started screaming at me about how braindead I was for forcing a double feed and refused any explanation
revolvers are cool, thats reason enough for me to think they're the best
Fair enough lol
Big iron gigachad
@@wizarddaddy47 Big iron, bit bullets = big holes.
...and they're cool because they're effective. ✊
QUIT WHISPERIN SONNY! THAT DUST COVER WAS SO LOUD THAT IT DROWN OUT THE NOISE OF THE PING FROM THE GARAND!!!
Lol
Calling someone 'racist' in the 2020s no longer means anything. It's basically on par with calling someone "communist"- anyone who says a thing you don't like. Why people still get riled up by it is beyond me.
Agreed
Sounds like somthing a racist Communists would say /s
Congrats on 15k subs! Love your videos and this is a great one! I wouldn’t call this one Fuddlore, but we need to talk about the “low serial number” 1903s…
That is definitely a topic I plan on getting into at some point! Whether in a short or a full video. Thanks for watching!
I just think “two world wars!” is fun to say. Obviously the rifle did more and artillery much more.
It’s still fun to say.
In WW1, 68% of casualties on the western front, of which there were millions, were the result of artillery fire.
The best way I have heard the revolver vs automatic debate explained is, Revolvers are resistant to Neglect, and autoloaders are resistant to Abuse.
That is a solid explanation!
My favorite has to be the Myth about how the slide stop slide release will damage the slide catch. Just a few hours ago one of my supervisors ( 22 year old female) at my armed DC SPO job , chastised me for using the slide stop slide release because According to her, you can damage the firing pin 😂, mind you I'm 30 year's old, been shooting since I was 4, have been in this field since I was 22, I train regularly, and I have a general interest in firearms , lol maybe even an obsession 😂. Now I'm not saying that I'm a firearms expert pr that I know everything on the subject, but what I do know is that I'm far more knowledgeable than she is, to the point where I've probably forgot more information on the subject then she's processed.
Rant over, great video .
I feel your pain man 😂
Kinda the opposite, but the Army in BCT being obsessed with getting rifles carbon free led to people using steel pieces to scrape at the bolt and BCG, which slowly runins the Parkerized finish
I agree with you on glocks and revolvers, I've had revolvers with timing issues, indexing and internal issues that are completely stuffed. Generally I've found revolvers to be worse than self loaders, but I deal mainly with old trashed guns that haven't been looked after. I personally don't like glock at all.. but I carry one everyday at work and I know it will work everytime
Glock has definitely earned their reputation for reliability, in spite of how uncomfortable and blocky they are lol
Congratulation Thomas. Your work deserves recognition.
Thank you kindly!
It’s pretty interesting because Chinese captured examples would have the dust cover and some without. So yeah the fudd lore is wrong about it
Once upon a time an old fudd told me you can't kill a coyote with a 30-30 rifle at 100 yards and you can't hit the side of a barn with a 1911 at 25 yards.
That is quite the proclamation 😂 think I’m gonna shoot and post a part two for this video today, getting lots of good recommendations to add to the list
For the 1911s that were in service near the end that would actually be kind of literal, they were insanely worn out at that point
Tom Horn called and would like to have a word with that man. Horn was supposed to be using a rifle length barrel 30-30 with a half stock and getting 200+ yard shots. Even with a 20" you can get 200 yard shots. Though 150 shots are a lot more practical.
@@bower31 Yep the military tends to use hardware till it falls completely apart. I saw a pic of one of our guys in Iraq with a Mossberg shotgun that looked like it first entered service in Nam. Most of the finish was worn off the receiver and a lot of the barrel. Apparently still worked just fine though.
@@Wastelandman7000 Having served in an Iraq/Afghanistan equivalent scenario, everything getting sandblasted by the wind is a very real thing. That stuff is like moon regolith, very fine and sharp. No finish is immune to it, everything will start showing bare metal surprisingly quickly. Not arguing against your point, just my 2c.
Revolvers can absolutely bind, that is a bit of fuddlore anyone who's ever used literally any revolver knows is false, so i wonder where it even cones from.
Who knows man, people are crazy
One thing about a revolver, if you have a misfire, just pull the trigger again, with a semiautomatic pistol, a defective cartridge requires that the slide must be manipulated somehow. Which action might be easier and more instinctual to perform in high stress situation, and needs no practice or training?
Sounds like a crappy excuse for not training.
@@MrNexor-cj8gs So, you ridicule facts you don't like. Got it.
It is usually either poor ammo or maintenance but it is possible. Anything can happen to any weapon (e.g. broken springs) so a BUG is advised.
First time on this channel and I am already very, very jealous of the room you are in.
How I was taught: Revolvers malfunction less, but when they do, it is usually catastrophic to the point of making the weapon useless. Semi autos malfunction more but are often quickly fixed by racking the slide or something similar.
Thanks for watching! The gun room is my pride and joy, definitely what the channel is most known for 👍🏻
Good presentation! I think the 1911 lore stems from anecdotes about its comparative effectiveness and stopping power collected from combat in the Philippines and WW2. E.g., Alvin York, Walsh, Baggett, Warner. I've never owned one and my grandpa (WW2 Marine) wasn't a fan, fwiw. He did say that Marines were taught in basic that the .45 would knock a man down if he was struck in the hand or arm. Some of the 1911's mythical powers may have been embellishment to give soldiers confidence in their weapons, but I have to think that its reputation isn't totally unearned.
Thanks for watching! It is certainly a great gun and one of the most iconic of all time, the stories definitely started somewhere and your theory is definitely a solid one!
A revolver is much more immune from proximity failures and gripping failures during close encounters of the grappling kind. Given that I am more likely to end up in that situation than a gang war extended shootout I favor the revolver for my main weapon.
However, I am an advocate of carrying a second gun which could be either a wheelie or an auto.
Of course there is whippersnapper lore too like Glock perfection. 😊😇
Here’s one: Any semi automatic can be made full auto with a few strokes from a file.
That's nice. How many of those bullets will you be able to hit with though?
A squib round in a revolver can be very challenging and dangerous to clear. There is potential for a bullet to halfway enter the barrel and lock the cylinder in place
I had this happen actually, and I know a guy that turned an S&W M1917 barrel into a split banana peel cause he didn’t notice he had a squib halfway down the barrel
Fuds: I’m absolutely a 2A supporter BUUUUUUUT,
Definitely a favorite saying of theirs lol
"Don't drop the slide on muh 1911!!"
Okay I gotta push back a bit on the revolver thing. Yes I suppose if you subject a handgun to the mud of verdun, a semi auto is probably going to be easier to get back in action. Crimp jump is a thing that can happen and that will also jam a revolver. I’ve owned dozens of handguns, both revolvers and semi autos. Leaving aside 22 primers that don’t go off (common issue and has nothing to do with being fired in a semi auto or revolver), I’ve only ever even seen one malfunction with a revolver. Bullet jumped crimp in an aluminum frame 38 and jammed the gun up. Checked the rest of the ammo in that box and you could actually pull the bullets out by hand. It was Remington factory ammo and I’ve never seen ammo that poor quality before or since. I’ve seen literally too many semi auto jams than I can count. Ruger LCPs, several 1911s, glocks, sigs, CZs, etc. It happens. Obviously revolvers can jam and any gun can have parts break (revolvers being a bit more complicated to repair if and when this happens), but in my experience with dozens of different varieties of hand guns, revolvers are definitely significantly more reliable. Not infallible. Just more reliable
What keeps me depending on my revolvers over my autos is just that I hit better with them. Maybe someday that will change, but I may not live that long.
Hey that’s perfectly valid 👍🏻
No one thinks WW1 and WW2 were won because of the 1911. It’s just a joke, a quirky come back, a meme.
You’d be surprised how many people have actually argued me that it’s a valid point though, the meme started somewhere lol. To most people though yes, it is a joke
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So you are young and have never been around old farts who bark this crap like its as proven as gravity?
Great info about fuddlore- I hear similiar often in gun shops and pawnshops all the time
I’m thinking about doing a part two soon since this video is garnered more attention than my average 👍🏻
By the way most refer to a FUDD, I qualify, why? Let's see, I think a M1911A1is beautiful and FOUGHT in not winning two World Wars, the Korean War and the Viet Nam War and was still in service when I joined the Army in 1985. I like it for the ammo it fires and is a piece of American heritage. With that said, if I was to have an EDC, I would go with a Glock 23, I like a little more punch than the 9mm but that's just me. I agree with Patton on thinking that the M-1 Garand is best firearm ever created for a rifle. Again, I would grab an AR-15 any model between the A1 to A4 if I had to start defending my home or country. Why? Logistics. It would be easier to get 5.56mm ammo than 30-06 ammo for a Garand. When I left combat arms (Cavalry Scout) and moved to a more rear area job (MP) I finally got the basic load out that I always wanted when I was a scout, an M16 with a pistol (M9). I wanted the pistol as an "OH S**T" weapon when the enemy was right on top of me, and I was out of rifle ammo. I'm 64 now and I have my favorites for firearms but I'm also a realist when it comes to what a firearm would be used for. Nostalgia will not always keep you alive, you have to be practical.
For being able to acknowledge the practicality of modern firearms, you basically disqualify yourself from being a Fudd in my eyes. Thank you for your service!
I agree about revolvers vs semi autos jamming. But you are over looking with a semi a misfire needs to be manually cleared a revolver just pull the trigger again. This is part of the reason I carry a revolver rather than a semi
Why not both? Not necessarily at the same time...
"Fudd" has never had a racial connotation, white or otherwise.
You’re not wrong, but I honestly think 100 % of any and all Fudds I’ve ever encountered were older white dudes. Usually in a Cabela’s, Sportsman’s Warehouse or at a random gun store or shooting range
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry that has been my experience as well. But the term is not racial and whoever accused you of that doesn’t know what they’re talking about and sees everything through a racial lens. “Fudd” has equal racial implication to “Internet troll” (i.e., none).
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry You don't live where I do apparently. Some of the biggest fudd foolishness I deal with on a regular basis is middle aged black men who want "Dillingers", by which they mean "derringers".
I work at a gun store, and I've heard it so much that "y'all got Dillengers" is a line that immediately makes all my coworkers laugh.
These are always black men in their 50s or 60s, usually "instructing" younger women who I assume are their daughters. "Get yourself two Dillengers, .32 or .38! That's the best defense you can get!".
This isn't to say I don't deal with white fudds too, because I do, and they're every bit as obnoxious.
The white fudds tend to love revolvers, and specifically to think a .22 revolver is "the best gun for my wife" (it's not).
But black fudds do exist, they are immensely fond of derringers, most of them call them "Dillengers", and they are every bit as retarded as any other fudd is.
There are plenty of examples of Type 99s that would have been made with monopods, dust covers, cleaning rods and AA sights and all of those parts have been stripped off. Plenty of those rifles also have all of their screws still factory staked in place so hadn't been messed with otherwise. There is good circumstantial evidence that the Japanese were taking those parts off of early rifles in the scrap metal drives very late in the war. I've also seen recent pictures from Iwo Jima with the rusted hulks of rifles stacked up that still retain their dust covers and monopods. So I don't think this was something that the Japanese soldiers did themselves, but more like sending those to strip parts from rifles warehoused in Japan.
The vast majority of bringbacks came out of Japan post surrender and aren't actual battlefield pickups hence why rifles retaining their monopods are less common.
You know, my grandad was a pretty heavy dude in WW2, working as an “SLU” between Bletchley Park, the SHAEF staff, and the various European commanders. He never discussed his war - not least because, as Stephen Ambrose learned, the various British vows of secrecy had no end and the threat was of a “de-bollocking.” He was all over Europe - in Paris before it fell, captured and turned a spy in Cherbourg, and was in the room when Gen. McAuliffe said his famous “nuts!” He was later a four-term member of Congress during the Eisenhower administration.
Anyway, all that is to say that his lone “bring back” and only pistol he owned, the first pistol I ever shot at that, was an SS Hi-Power.
Great video, and congrats on the subscribers! I just subscribed myself. I agree with you on this. Only push back I would give is on the 1911 being wholly outdated for use in the modern area. While double stack 9s are in almost all cases better for combat roles (i.e better to have more ammo if you don’t know when you’d be resupplied, or likely to be in an extended gun fight), id say it still has a place in defensive roles where round count is much less likely to play a role. But like you said there is some opinion involved in this topic. I’d still prefer my Browning HP or other 9’s if shtf but the 1911 comes with me for self defense. Maybe I got lucky and got a good 1911 from the factory but I haven’t yet found another pistol in .45 with the same combination of accuracy, reliability, slimness, manual safety (and few other features) than my Colt. Just my two cents. Congrats again👍
Thank you kindly! The funny thing about the 1911 is my best modern handgun was a Sig 1911, but after owning two that were sub-par at best I started thinking the first one may have been a fluke. Thanks again!
The Fudd Lore on "M1911 won two world wars" might work if you compare it to only other pistols. It did do a lot of work with multiple militaries in both, and was even used by air crews in WW1. Doesn't actually make it better than a modern pistol but still
I'm older but ,i keep up.i carry the largest gun i can conceal comfortably. I fall and winter i have a Glock 27 with a 13 round mag or the 9 round.a Sig 365 i another i carry. In summer a lcp or a NAA mini 22 mag .or sometime a 5 shot j frame in my pocket. Life is good. I avoid trouble i don't got to bars or bad areas and i live in a safer area.thanks for the video
My doppelganger. 😊
I found this video thanks to a "pretending to be fudds" group I am in. You sold me on this the second you mentioned someone commented and claimed that you are a racist for using the word "fudd". As a Canuck, fuddlore is EVERYWHERE up here, to an annoying degree.
Lol it is insane that so many of these still persist, in the face of being proved beyond any doubt to be false
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry The ones I hear the most often up here are the following:
"All you gotta do is rack a pump shotgun and it'll scare the bad guys away!"
"Dat mossberg foreend is so damn rattly it'll scare the deer away!"
"5.56 is just a poodle shooter! Back in MUH day we used the ol' FNs! (Our FN FAL Variant, the C1 rifle) and dem things were WAY better and had more STAWPPIN POWAH dan those GAHBAGE C7s (M16 variant) with dem plastic stocks and plastic mags (We adopted thermold mags with the C7. Huge mistake)!"
"Dem commie guns are gahbage rods dat can't hit a broad side of a barn!"
"Revolvers never jam, sonny!"
"5.56 is designed to wound, not kill!" (I Was seriously told this during my basic training, couldn't help but roll my eyes after hearing that. They kept repeating average number of rounds fired vs kills as proof that 5.56 is too weak, despite our doctrine literally requiring us to fire multiple rounds just to keep a guys head down)
Shockingly, a LOT of fuddlore has it's origins from the military and law enforcement world. And some of it has SOME basis in fact, but is either no longer accurate OR was never true to begin with.
@burnyburnoutze2nd that is what makes this complicated to talk about for a civilian like me, enough of these myths have military origins that without fail someone will think you are disrespecting the military by calling it out as false. See the segment about Arisaka dust covers, there are swarms of people that come out shouting “but my grandpa was there and he said…” etc.
The fact is, being in the military or police doesn’t automatically make you an expert in firearms history. I know plenty of military and police veterans that are, but I know plenty that aren’t.
Side note, I may have to reference a few that you listed next time I do this, there’s some gold in there lol
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry I learned that the hard way after joining the Canadian Forces that just because someone is military or law enforcement, that it doesn't automatically mean that they are firearms experts. The vast majority of people who join military or LEO have little to no firearms experience whatsoever. There's even some military lore that is the cause of things like hating a certain service weapon because it has stoppages constantly. In our case, the browning Hi power pistol, which is only recently started getting replaced by a Sig Sauer P320 variant. The ones we use are all John Inglis produced 1944 to 1950s era guns that have been used and abused constantly for 80+ years, it's a friggen miracle they even function at all after all of that haha. Because of that, many guys whos only experience with the hi power is a negliected and abused 1940s era gun hate the hi power in general, in a very similar veign to vets who hate the M9 and Beretta 92 family entirely for similar reasons.
I love fudd guns, but hate fuddism 🤣
I'm pretty libertarian when it comes to gun control, but I love me some good ol American steel and walnut
I hear that! I'm a 2A absolutist myself. If you can afford it you should be able to have it without being hassled. Including tanks and fighter planes.
Congratulations hitting 15 grand!🍾👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸
Thank you kindly!
I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of 1911 pistols stayed in the holsters of officers throughout the entire WW1 and WW2. Also revolvers reliability is greatly overrated. Had one that needed to be fixed after it went out of timing.
Id heard that when captured weapons were brought back by soldiers they had the bolts removed from the rifles for safety reasons on the way back. It would be easy to misplace or just not include a nonessential part when putting them back together later.
That is another option for why many of them would have lost the dust cover for sure 👍🏻
My favorite fudd lore is that the m14 is the greatest, most accurate rifle ever made.
Greatest? Yes. Accurate? who cares
I wouldn't say the greatest, as there are quite a few contenders for that. I think the Garand was superior to the m14. But, the FN-FAL was probably a better combat weapon than the M14 in that era.
Revolvers & 1911s are better because I say they are. And that's good enough for me.
Good one- my uncle was telling me how he has a Ruger Blackhawk for carry in Texas. Doubt its CCW...but he said he got a "good ol crimson tracer laser on their as a back up"" like in what world would iron sights break on a revolver? Obviously he has never shot with a red dot laser during the day time outside...I zero'd a TLR 6 Laser that came with the flashlight on my Glock 48 on an INDOOR RANGE. That shit was hard to see even there.
Also "I don't like plastic guns. They break in the cold and they melt when it's hot outside and shot too many rounds." Just man.
Said Fudd Store wouldn’t happen to be in Portland would it? There’s a spot that’s infamous for that and has some rather amusing reviews.
Maybe lol, yeah I think you know the place
Iconic weapons you listed and the reasons why. I carried 3 sidearms in service. The 1911a1, M9 Beretta (23 of those years) and finally the SIG 229 40 cal. All had their strengths and weaknesses. The most difficult to master imho was the 1911a1.
You needed a lot of time training and practice under professional instruction to get good.
Now once you get the hang of them, you love them.
The M9 was absolutely fantastic, I heard so much negative feedback from other veterans about them. But I never had any problems shooting or carrying it as a full sized service weapon.
The SIG while I feel I could get the hang of the way the trigger worked, i immediately did not like it.
I love most revolvers with only a few exceptions. The 686 is an incredible weapon, and my old colt .22 the same.
I had an old s&w .44 mag I just couldn’t shoot well. And I shot my friends Ruger that just didn’t work well.
But the Fudd term is still in effect. Had my son speak ill of the 9mm cartridge saying it bounces off windshields. Must have heard that in a movie and it somehow became fact.
Best way to expel BS is to in fact do your own research by testing. Have a great day
It's funny, most people like the M9, I never really did. In over 35 years of Army Aircrew service, I was issued a .38 (4"bbl), then the M9 after Desert Storm, then the M17 in the end. The .38 was easy to clean and easy to recover the brass, but had it's limitations, of course. The M9 was, eh, okay, I guess, just seemed clunky, had terrible sights, and an open cut slide. I know I am going to get hate for this, but I kinda liked the M17. I liked the trigger (striker fired pin), the sights, and the overall feel. I may be in the minority though.
I myself could never bring myself to like the Glocks that I was issued in law enforcement. I have a Jercho 941 that I adore. Yes it is heavy. I also like my 357 snobby SP101.
@patrickgriffitt6551 the Jericho 941 is a favorite of mine as well
Do a tacticool lore video next. Lets get the Glock and AR fanboys in a tizzy. "223 is not a .22 bro!"
Not a bad idea actually 🤔
This is true. Because I've seen quite a few tacticool types acting like a 5.56 has similar balistics and barrier penetration to a .308. Um....yeah, right.
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry please make it happen i would love you forever
Wow, I've never seen anybody so passionate about dust covers. That said, everybody should be passionate about something.
I get worked up lol
One point about Revolvers and bolt action rifles vs. Semi-automatic rifles and pistols- the former are not ammunition sensitive; you have a lot more options while retaining reliable functioning.
Does pointing this out make me a Fudd?🤔
I'm interested your response to this statement: "Within a scenario that doesn't include extreme conditions like mud, sand, etc., a well cleaned and maintained revolver from a modern and reputable manufacturer is slightly less likely to fail (fail meaning a stoppage between rounds requiring the shooter to perform an action other than continuing to pull the trigger to fire another round) than a well cleaned and maintained semi-automatic from a modern and reputable manufacturer."
I would call that a true statement 👍🏻
Your 100% right. Type 38 and Type 99 dust covers do not rattle as long as their matching to the rifles, which most don't now. The rattling dust cover is really a post WW2 thing. I highly doubt anyone actually believes that the 1911 won 2 world wars but I could be wrong. I think that is more of a tongue in cheek type thing or they just mean that the 1911 just happened to be on the winning side in both world wars. You should do more videos on gun myths. Most guns out there have at least one myth attributed to them unless they are really obscure. My favorite myth is the proper pronunciation of the M1 Garand. The real pronunciation is M1 rifle because that's what it actually says on the rifle and that's what people actually referred to them in WW2 and Korea. M1 Garand is a collector term that came after its military use. I say M1 Garand in public just so people know what I'm talking about but I hate using that term.
I do know two dudes that will genuinely argue that the 1911 was what determined our victory in both World Wars and I find it hilarious. Thanks for watching!
Fudds exist as does Fudd lore. Some of it is pretty comical. Some just stupid. But I don’t think all of it is meant to be taken seriously.
Your first example, for instance:
Some might consider me a bit of a Fudd. Not from an ideological standpoint but just because I’m getting older and I like old-timey guns. I know I’ve uttered the phrase, “The Colt Government Model won two world wars.”
I’ve always seen that as a bit of colorful hyperbole. It never occurred to me that anyone would actually believe that the 1911 was the deciding factor in those victories.
I don’t know; maybe I give people too much credit?
I think most people view it the way you do, but there definitely are people who take it very seriously in my experience. I will grant that most are saying it as hyperbole, but not all
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry you’re probably right.
Unfortunately 😂
My favorite is "The 45-70 is the only government I need" LOL Mind you, considering you could probably take down an elephant with that thing, they might have a point.
I’m born in 90s and also a Fudd. Opinions are fun and it’s even funner to dig your heels in
Then there is the Fudd Lore about Type 99 “Last Ditch” rifles being unsafe.
Ah the old “Jap Crap” legends (their words, not mine) definitely heard that circulated a bit. I will grant that they often don’t function as well as early examples, but they are only truly unsafe if you don’t know how they operate (the Nambu Type 94 is the prime example of this)
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponryNo, I’m talking about confusing Cadet “not to be loaded with ANYTHING” and last ditch rifles.
@@samiam619that was really genius engineering on the Japanese part, make a training rifle able to load real ammo that will blow it up. Maybe it was actually a last ditch suIcide grenade
@@Nathan-jh1hoI mean those were never meant to be near real ammunition and Japan has never been a society where the common person had access to arms and ammunition.
I imagine that there were a fair amount of small arms kills due to pistol calibers like the .45ACP, just that those rounds didn't come out of a pistol.
Im 61 and know younger and older, "why do you need that" so called 2a people.
Yeah it’s pretty much anyone who will say “I support the 2nd Amendment, but… Etc” and there are far too many of those in my generation.
A true firearm enthusiast admires all firearms. I shoot black powder Hawkens and Red dot sighted ARs and everything in between. Love em all
There is so much “Fuddlore” about the 1911 and .45 acp that you could spend hours on it. They used to say the recoil was so stout that recruits couldn’t handle it so the came up with the M1 carbine. Now they call it .45 AARP and say the recoil is weak.
As far as Browning Hipower vs 1911. J M Browning designed it about 30 years later, so it is improved. Won’t even go into .45 vs 9mm.
But the 45 is a good round and has the advantage of lower operating pressure. Is it magical? No, but it is a pretty good pill.
What "Fuddlore" actually is- its a wider cultural phenomenon where Boomers will just make up something that they dont have the answer to
I’ve seen how fuddlore develops. It usually starts with a gun that’s out of spec and does something wrong. Then they never shoot that type of gun and assume it’ll always do that. For example, some .32 smith and Wesson revolvers can chamber .32 acp because their revolver is out of spec.
Good point, I have semi autos too. But I mostly back pocket carry. I can't stand the little pocket semi autos, much more comfortable with my LCR or even a J frame. When I do hip carry it's either a 4 inch SP101 or my G19
Nobody knows what self defense situation you will come across in the future. In any fight those who have the advantage wins. In a gun fight its speed, accuracy and fire power. I would also say there's no such thing as the best self defense gun. Its down to your taste and what threats you think you might encounter. Mr Thud in the woods is going to have a different threat to Quantarious in the Ghetto
Nova Scotia fudd-lore: one needs a 5 shot magazine for your bolt action 303 Lee Enfield for big game hunting in that province.
This lie has real feet in the Maritimes.
Man I need some more international Fudd Lore, so many things have been passed along as “fact” it’s insane
A British Columbia Fudd lore on the .303 is that its the only rifle allowed to have 10 rounds of center fire in its magazine because of the vast amount of them in Canada.
Ive had revolvers, glocks, ARs, AKs, 1911s, pump actions, bolt actions, lever actions etc malfunction.
manurhin m73 and SCARs has a pretty decent rep but I don’t have either.
But id agree on average revolvers rend to be better then 1911s.
I often carry a revolver since animals are here as often as people so magnums can help, also i think they are cool.
To be fair.. A glock will jam if you limp wrist it which... is most likely to happen of course when you are in an off balance or one handed defensive situation.. Also... revolvers don't go out of 'battery' which is something that often happens in.... a defensive situation... lol also with a shrouded hammer ... on a ....revolver you can fire the gun multiple times from a jacket pocket which is most likely to happen. well you get the idea dont get me started on hip and point shooting
Are you really saying a glock is more reliable than a ruger revolver?
"Saturday Night Special" by Lynyrd Skynyrd should be the official Fudd anthem.
Yes indeed 🤣 that song is still a banger though
I love your armoury!
Thanks! It has been a labor of love
12ga 00 buckshot is the same as getting hit by 9 9mms all at one time.
No. Not exactly.
My Type 99 is SO FUN to shoot. No dust cover. Makes sense
Is it weird that I have guns but I’m not really a “gun guy?” I know how the ones I own work, how to clean them, how to maintain them and how to shoot them reasonably well. Same with guitars. I have several, I’m pretty good with them but I’m not a guitar guy. More a player than a guitar dude. I basically ignore all other guitars and guns. Usually, in my experience, “gun guys” or “guitar guys” are just equipment snobs and aren’t usually all that good at what they do.
I wouldn’t say it’s weird, different people are into different hobbies in different ways 🤷🏻♂️ I’m into both as well, but definitely lean more heavily into historic guns than anything
I have a truck, sometimes I use it for truck things ("hey free furniture on Facebook marketplace let's go get it!"). Beat to hell '88 Ford Ranger. Wouldn't call myself a truck guy. I guess it's more if you make it your true hobby that it becomes a "gun guy" situation
Came here tor guns and stayed for the history.
Believing that the Army was always behind the Marine corps in the pacific is also Fudd lore.
Maybe this was before goggle .the best one I heard from a guy I told him I reloaded 44 mag rounds for my 1894 Marlin .he tells me he didn’t trust reloads because when the brass went through the barrel it ruined the brass .
That’s definitely an interesting one 😂
Well to be fair if you shoot and the brass actually goes through the barrel there is a 100% chance that the brass is in fact ruined
@@CaesarPerkele but that’s not how it works
@@bobyjones3905 I am sure that if any of the brass goes through the barrel you'd agree that brass is ruined. Heck the whole gun is ruined with a reasonable likelihood.
Revolvers are attractive because there is no magazine to fail, no continuous expense for magazines. Reliable? In 2024-25. Both types are reliable in quality guns.
The only gun I have ever had COMPLETE fail, was a revolver. This was a manufacturing issue and solved by the maker. Glad I wasn’t in a fight when that happened though!
I’ve had four revolver failures, three were ammo failures, one was powder under the extractor. When they fail, they fail hard.
Pistols played a larger part in trench warfare than people give credit for. Pistols also played a large roll in WW2 and Korea. The use of pistols in warfare really had begun to dwindle during and before the Vietnam war.
I am curious about revolvers and their reliability. Typically revolvers are going to have a catastrophic failure when they fail where as auto loaders most often will have magazine failures. Are revolvers for some reason more likely to have that catastrophic failure and if so why? If a catastrophic failure is as likely to happen in a revolver as in an auto loader then wouldn't a revolver be considered more reliable since, as you said the more moving parts the more likely to have problems? I personally have had many magazine failures, yes even with OEM Glock magazines, and have never had any catastrophic failure in either a revolver or auto loader. I have put in the realm of at least 2000 rounds through the majority of my firearms, both revolvers and autoloaders. Please correct me if I am wrong on this.
Magazine failures are definitely more common than catastrophic failures, I suppose the point I was driving at is that revolvers aren’t infallible. Particularly in mud. In more controlled environments they are definitely less likely to fail, but in a less controlled environment the likelihood of a failure is both greater and more problematic
@@GreatNorthwestWeaponry that I can absolutely agree with I’ve just always heard the fudd lore and then heard rebuttals and I guess while I don’t carry a revolver because of lower capacity, the double action trigger, and slow reloads I also have to admit that I’ve never had any malfunctions with my modern revolver’s…likewise I’ve never had catastrophic malfunctions with any auto loaders…thank you
Revolvers aren’t any more of less likely to have catastrophic failures than a pistol. The difference is that if something breaks in a revolver, you generally aren’t going to get it up and running again. I’ve had a spring break inside the frame that made it so I had to take the frame screws out and replace the spring before the hammer would cock. I’ve had multiple cases of the ejector rod loosening up and jamming the cylinder up. And on the newer S&W’s with the “safety lock”, I have seen a .44 Magnum lock itself up from recoil and needing the user to dig out his key to unlock the revolver.
The general difference I point out between the two is this; pistols are more likely to have a malfunction, but most of the time it will be one you can correct (ie tap and rack, change magazines, etc.). A revolver is less likely to malfunction, but if it does, it either keeps chugging along (ie bad ammo means you just pull the trigger again and the cylinder rotates go a good round) or it is now just a steel club (ie internal spring broke or ejector rod is loose and now the revolver can no longer fire, and needs you to sit down and open it up or you need a gunsmith to help you).
The current working definition of Fudd seems to be anyone who is not down with tarted up Tupperware.
LOL Never heard it put that way before
So the 1911 can not incapacitate a man if it hits him in the finger? Blasphemy!
May JMB forgive me 🤣
So first off. It's very common for gun owners to be out right rude over simple disagreements. THAT BEING SAID. Id like to dispute what you said about revolvers. And ill try to not make this overly long winded.
The reason revolvers are considered more reliable than automatics is the simple operation. You won't get a failure to feed on a revolver. Won't get a double feed. You might get a failure to fire. When it happens, pull the trigger again. You COULD get a failure to extract, but that is exceedingly rare if you eject the rounds with the muzzle up, and it is impossible with a moon clipped revolver like the 1917 (my favorite military pistol btw) and the idea that mud and gunk would destroy the barrel is possible however I'd argue unlikely with a magnum revolver, both because the magnum revolver throws more carbon put of the cylinder gap pushing debris away, and because they are built to higher qualities than pre1935 revolvers.
Additionally, I've heard that in ww1 or 2 can't remember, the USGI would occasionally tie the magazine to the pistols lanyard loop on the 1911 because in the excitement of close combat, it was common to dump the magazine. That issue didn't exsist with the 1917
Also, I've had quite a few glocks that have jammed. Everything from stove pipe to double feed. And yes, oem mags, slide, barrel, the works.
So in conclusion, my point being. Revolvers ARE more reliable. If even by .001% more reliable than a modern semi auto. I think alot of people think revolvers are less reliable because they try to maintain it the same way they maintain an auto. No, you don't just oil it and run the revolver. You have to keep the carbon from building in the key areas. That would cause a jam. Which, a jam on a revolver equates to a harder trigger pull, and eventually a full lock up. I've done it.
I'm not saying revolvers are better, but for me they are better. Both have short comings, autos and revolvers. Whichever one you're willing to deal with is what you should carry.
I don't make a habit of telling people what they should do, rather what I do.
Fair points, and I do absolutely love the 1917 as well
@GreatNorthwestWeaponry I always wanted one, but I simply can't decide on the s w or the colt versions. I do a left hand reload (I do have a short video on it) so I guess the s w would be the way to go.
Really wish a company would recreate the 1917, with a modern magnum frame chambered in 45 win mag. But I digress lol
Another benefit of the S&W is that it can function without a moon clip, the cylinder chambers are necked down to keep the casings from slipping too far forward (you’d still have to individually remove each casing if you tried this considering the lack of rims, but with the Colt it isn’t an option) I also just prefer the S&W positive extraction over Colt’s, which I’ve always experienced to be rougher and more likely to fail but that is at least partially a personal opinion
@GreatNorthwestWeaponry I did not know that, that's good to know. Now I know for a fact the s w version is my target
Yeah until it does actually jam. Or your timing fucks up and you get two shots per 6 trigger pulls.
A revolver won't go out of battery in the same way either
My edc for the last 24years has been a charter arms undercover 38special that I inherited from my great grandfather and it was his backup duty weapon for almost 30years before that.
I have and carry both as the situation requires.
But I would trust my life with either,but if I was going into a situation and had the option to pick,I'd 8 out of 10 times take a good ol 357!😊
I grew up with Saturday morning cartoons. Elmer Fudd had one gun and was a hunter only. I have dozens of (mostly handguns) of guns and don't hunt. my guns are mostly revolvers and range from a 1917 model Smith to a 69 Python to a newish 629 my semi autos are mostly 1911's cause I love em. but I have many historic semis... I am a 'Fudd' to some because I don't like plastic guns. I like historic guns... mostly tho I like ACCURATE guns I have been handloading for 50+ years. Actually tho... revolvers are more reliable but the difference is very small with quality guns. by the same token... I don't throw my guns in the mud.