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links to utena videos worth watching:
nanami best (and worst) girl: • The Nanami Problem
the funniest joke in utena (i agree): • The Funniest Joke in R...
why?? utena?? car??: • I (think I) know why U...
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timestamps:
0:00 intro
3:44 what are utena?
13:26 are utena gay?
17:59 all men are created equal (bad)
24:07 c o m p h e t t i m e
28:50 anthy needs therapy
36:17 transformation sequence
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As an abused brown girl myself, I can't begin to express how much I loved Anthy. It's true that if there is a narrative with a brown girl, it seems to often be about not even her abuse or how the culture around her having problematic elements, but her being saved by a white person. Abuse was always just a vehicle to show off white people's 'amazingness', their power. Anthy is different though; the show is about two abused people: Utena and Anthy. They both have complex characters and emotions. They do not save each other in the end by taking up roles like a "savior" or "white savior"; they do it by offering each other something no man in the show was willing to give: their love, compassion, and support. Only with this both characters get the courage to leave the school, but they do so separately. They saved themselves, but they needed each other to do so. It's super empowering and blew my mind when I was 13 (watched it being the same age as the characters aaahhhH) Also they are very gay.
wow. if/when you watch the second video, just know that I wrote my script before this comment i swear we just happened to say almost the exact same thing verbatim i have proof! (but also thank you for sharing
@@stushiThat's super cool tho that we had similar thoughts about the show (no need for proof I believe you! :D) It's always interesting to hear what people see in this show, and I can't wait to see the next video!
This is really well said!!!!!
That is very well stated!
"Utena Handling coke bottles to africans kids" is a great analogy of she trying to be a "prince" and "save" Anthy without understanding her. One of the greatest things of the series is that s Utena realize that this is WRONG, ultimately
i'm of the opinion that interpreting utena as bi or lesbian is dependant on the life experiences of the viewer but at the same time it's so clear to me that she's being conditioned into having these feelings. i guess it's if you believe she's having her feelings manipulated or being manipulated into having these feelings. either way, straight utena believers are insane. cool video
could u not use the term ins*ne its ableist
@@picturethis4903 the fuck? Why?
@@dontburstmybubble686 i don't agree and i wouldn't challenge this use of the word but it's not that difficult to see why imo, insanity is a wildly subjective term and more often than not it _is_ extremely largely used as a way to gaslight others
i'd honestly argue the actual concept of insanity as a remotely medical thing humans experience is often pretty much a way to segregate people who aren't okay and demean them, it's a term that in concept has a purpose but in execution is largely used to dismiss, gaslight, or treat a person as "different". the line between just thinking differently, being genuinely unwell and "insane" is pretty much 100% subjective and that's incredibly dangerous and abused, imo - people with disorders of many kinds being called insane has always been a thing and even if we work to progress past that, well, in psychiatric hospitals people can be deemed insane for simply not complying with abusive cops
essentially, it's an abused term, and in any serious context i think there's room to argue calling a person insane is just a way of putting a border up that discourages understanding, empathizing and helping.... instead of just, well, seeing them as 'insane'. a lost cause, or something lesser people will try fixing with brute force, or insult, or worse 8(
......but i think the general word, concept of a thing outside of medical health is still a fair non-literal descriptive term. but honestly i do get where they're coming from. i just felt passionate seeing your aggressive confusion and felt that it's worth explaining a perspective on it ,,;^ ,,,
@@lovelovemiraclesunsetgirl okay thanks, it just seemed strange but in context, yeah I can see it. For example talking to yourself is supposed to be a Hallmark of insanity but a lot of people seem to think it helps them work through things better. It really is just a word used to encourage conformity rather than wellness when you put it like that. It just didn't make sense because there are a lot of "insane" people like Dahmer but it does seem unfair to group people who simply need medication or disagree with you with people who commit heinous acts.
@DestinyApocalypse nah isn't anthys whole thing being enamored with her brother? If anything I feel like it's the other way around. Utena always goes on about her prince but her first reaction is to be like him not into him. It feels like she just wants to conform for acceptance. Anthy, on the other hand, is abused by her brother and I don't think she would be that enamored in that way if she was straight up a lesbian. Not saying it's love because e w , but it's not giving me lesbian. I'm bi but I haven't really had any experience with women or being a full on lesbian (one long relationship with one dude but I just know) so take my speculation with a grain of salt.
In fairness if Utenas only model for being a lesbian was from Juri I can imagine Utena thinking her love is nothing like that - what with shiori being needlessly and obsessively cruel.
Care to explain please?? I don't get what you mean. Thanks
@@ltw8579 what they are saying is, if Utena's only idea of what being a lesbian means from looking at the relationship between Juri and Shiori, then no wonder she thinks their love is different. Juri and Shiori's relationship is quite toxic, and is different from what she has with Anthy.
Something I adore about the finale of the series and what I think makes it work is how the crux of the narrative is centered on Anthy’s decision to take Utena’s outstretched hand, to believe in the love offered to her, to believe that someone truly loves her unconditionally even after seeing her beyond all pretenses. If Utena had simply pulled Anthy out of her coffin not only would it have been the most egregious of white savior moments, it also would have utterly destroyed the finale. By placing the focus on Anthy, it reinforces the theme of self-actualization and positions her as the most important character in the entirety of the show, making the ultimate choice which defines the narrative as a whole.
This is taken to further extremes in the movie where the climax is not only Bisexuals Go Vroom (which it is) but also a reversal of Anthy and Utena’s narrative roles, with Utena quite literally becoming a passive horse themed carriage like vehicle to facilitate Anthy’s escape and Anthy taking charge of her destiny, finding help from her friends and loved ones, and ultimately reclaiming her own agency in shattering the myth of the prince and breaking out into the outside world.
I also love how at the end of the show, Anthy basically tells Akio that he is pathetic and not worth her time, and immediately turns on her heel to leave the school and look for Utena, to a lighthearted and extra upbeat version of the opening song.
Tips for white allies? Use your privilege to help us without taking away our agency
I agree with your broader point re: Anthy's agency, but...Utena is not white.
@@scoopmaloop3203 Yeah it is really weird how some people in the comments talk like Utena is white. She doesn't have to be white for the theme to work. Japan is pretty racist and colorist so her being Japanese works too
I found the bodyswap episode because it was cathartic to see Anthy throwing hands with those who would abuse her
Lesbian culture is a really well written, metaphor heavy, genre diverting story.
I don't remember who said this but, Anthy problems would overlap the others because she's a WOC and how chivalry played a huge representation in the knives scene from the last episode. Yet, her character is so complex, you can't even pinpoint her as morally good or bad.
unrelated but nice penguindrum pfp!!!! :3
I didn’t fully “understand” or dissect utena when I first watched it but I still gave it a 9.8/10. I think utena’s pure entertainment value and perfect direction carry it just as much as what’s lying beneath it. Plus it’s fucking hilarious.
It is super funny, but once we got past the first third of the show, most of my time was spent yelling at the screen in frustration, disgust, and anger. Akio is the prince- the unholy prince!
I am currently watching it semi literally. Aka I believe thanks to Norality that Nanami is a cow that turned herself human but also that the Rose Bride and anthy are separate characters.
So true! I also simply loved the music and how over the top certain elements were
I love how her mentioning the controversial subject manner points were all highlighted by Saionji.
Saionji is my problematic son whomst i begrudgingly love very much
@@stushi I feel that. If it helps I named my green mustang after said problematic sonion.
But I did laugh at how he does, to varying degrees and ways, kinda highlight every single post point there...not to mention poor Kyouichi finds himself most often as the butt of every joke.
@@creakimoi2958 SONION OMg
Onion Boy: there's this girl that I really like but I'm afraid I hesitated for so long that she is no longer interested in me
Mikage: Yea, cool, listen; I'm not an actual therapist. You need like real help....please leave....
That was pretty funny to me! Mikage found a person he either didn’t want to or couldn’t use in his wired, twisted plan :P
"Boy...
If you overhead ONE MINUTE of my previous patients you would *disintegrate...*
You are a waste of my schemes and lifespan, PLEASE LEAVE."
One time when I was a baby weeb I wrote a thirty page analysis of the symbolism in Adolescence Apocalypse on a friend’s video game/anime forum because I was HIGH KEY OBSESSED so I love this video a bunch, thank you
I would HIGH KEY read that if u happen to still have it somewhere!
don't be shy give us google docs
the fact that utena was specifically enamored with a prince which is a pretty unattainable figure romantically making it a perfect excuse for not finding a partner was not lost on me when watching
Your joke about Utena and Anthy possibly being cousins was GOLD! A perfect Sailor Moon dub reference!
This video made me realized how weird it is that this show has so much analysis and I've never seen anyone discuss how colourism would influence Anthy would move through society. The show might be Japanese but like most places in the world Japan has noticeable bias against dark skin people.
I had not considered that point before this video.
This was a very intertwining take on Utena.
On my first watch, I gave Touga the nickname "AssHat" early on because I found him to be so fucking vile that refused to call him by name......and then Akio happened I just....could not comprehend the show having a character that was that much worse of a person than AssHat.
My thought process was similar, except it started with Saionji...then came Touga...then came Akio. And by that point, Saionji is almost a nice guy in comparison lol
@@stushi You're exactly right. Like as awful has Saionji is, by the end of the series he had completely fallen off my radar in comparison. It's hard to commit brain space to anything else when you're faced with a character guilty of rape, incest, and the child-grooming of nearly the entire cast.
also I don't think utena actually loved akio, I mean romantically, she may have been attracted to his body but the way she acted after sleeping with him just shows how much doubt she had in her feeling towards him
Yeah utena and anthy will be lesbian to me no matter what anyone says! I agree that they both seem very comphet and honestly that's just an extension of the themes of utena as a whole: In a world defined by the patriarchy, women are expected to like men, and when they are incapable they feel like they should or force themselves to. Also, you can't mention an utena discord and not drop the invite link, bring it here (If that's cool with you)
Utena is at least bi or Straight passing to not hit a wall of bigotry constantly but to literally call her, who comfessed and kissed Anthy in canon straight is just str8 projection. Why can‘t guys be close and why can‘t close girls not be in love? The fact alone that girls kissing is literally seen as friendship while men can‘t even touch each other during a hug cause even that is too gay is so bizzarre. It‘s almost like str8 ppl think women can‘t love women while men „slip“ up into gay very easily. It‘s so stupid.
Yeah masculinity as a concept is so fragile for some reason unlike femininity. Like, you can even be someone like Utena who is a tomboy but still be considered feminine because you have long pink hair and you blush from time to time. But if you are a man who did something as little as getting a little bit flustered around your crush, you will be considered non-masculine with no going back. It is really bizzare
That is bizarre. Never heard of that.
exactly. I feel like this very point is also emphasized by wakaba and utena's relationship in the show
@@denizkaragullu6239men who get pegged are no less of a man than any other lol.
I respect (and honestly have the hots for) men who can show that shit openly without fear, also men who crossdress because I do that too and would like to live with someone who screws around with gender bullshit like that no matter what gender or biological sex they are.
Also I want to live with somebody who's nails I can paint, I need practise doing it lol.
@@padparradschas9623they kinda gay but not really at the same time.
They semi-gay
seeing the adolescence of utena randomly on anime directtv in 2005 was everything my traumatized ass needed as a very bi and very gender????? middle schooler with repressed memories and the fourth and fifth rewatch of the show and movie still help me as I navigate my life and regain memories I don't want but need
the bossa nova track, the entire remix CD is sooooo good
i wonder if some animation studio will decide to do a “reboot” of utena, since the movie, anime and novel are different, it’s always interesting seeing the different interpretations plus i want utena and anthy kiss outside of the movie >:(
i would def prefer more gay kisses and less het tear licking
It's perfect the way it is and the reboot would screw everything up just like reboots always do
@@seacrystal6189 yeah it would, reboots rarely ever capture the essence of the original but I wonder if that happens, how many more people will discover ikuhara's RGU. I think that'd still be great
@@seacrystal6189 yeah, i was thinking this aswell. I initially wanted a reboot- but once I analyzed WHY I wanted a reboot i realized i just want more people to see the show and appreciate it. I think a lot of utena stuff should be re-released
you really went a solid half hour without diving into the specifics of akio I'm impressed. also, I hate that I'm so into utena to know what pieces of the ost you used and how it fit perfectly in the video lol
ahhh i was hoping people would recognize the significance of the music!! this is my fave cd, i listen to it on repeat when i'm doing literally anything online: th-cam.com/video/qE8MZvktkBs/w-d-xo.html
@@stushi yes you used the car theme when the shock of an akio similarity hit you. the whole car thing was great
SAME !!!!!
THIS
The sunlit garden for “well duh this is all nice and simple” the late show jazz jingle for “uh nah this shit is messed up” and then the car theme for “yup this is just gonna hit you like a car”
And wakaba’s super extra pathos-soaked duel song for the climax of the video is. Too. Good. For. Words.
Time to bring my aroace, autistic, and transfeminine mess of a perspective to the subject of Utena's orientation. I think that no discussion of compulsory heterosexuality is complete without the mention of amatonormativity. Amatonormativity is basically the view that romantic relationships are the superior type of relationship. For example, how people say "just friends" or "more than friends," implying some sort of hierarchy with romantic relationships at the top and platonic relationships below them. It is impossible to rank different relationships. Someone may love their friend just as intensely as they love their romantic partner. Romantic love and platonic love are just different kinds of love. Also, no actions are inherently romantic or platonic. For example, many aromantic people marry and have children with their platonic partners. Whether a relationship is romantic or platonic depends entirely on how the people within the relationship see their relationship. In the aromantic community, non-normative platonic relationships like this have been termed queerplatonic or quasiplatonic relationships to avoid confusion.
I love really nuanced takes on relationships like Shame by Contrapoints and Revolutionary Girl Utena because love is infinitely more complicated than most depictions of romantic love (also it confuses me when people say just 'love' or 'relationship' and then mean specifically romantic love and romantic relationships). Utena's orientation could be basically anything because of her really complex past and current circumstances. Utena and Anthy's relationship could be read as purely platonic, but that reading doesn't take anything away from their relationship. Although, I think that their relationship is obviously supposed to be read as romantic in nature. In conclusion, in an ideal world relationships wouldn't need labels. By the way, I am not trying to declare "friendship erasure" whenever a relationship is read as gay, love is just really complex. Obviously, depictions of gay romantic relationships in media are important. Loved your video and I am patiently awaiting part two!
Okay, okay
I agree with most of the things said in this video but the thing with Mikage
First; excuse me, how dare you?
Second; I personally don't think neither Miki or Kozue or actually romantically or sexually interested in eachother. Miki shows active disgust towards the concept of sex and sensuality (given the trauma regarding his parents relationship and the way he sees adults in general) but rather he wishes to reconnect to his idealized memory of purity and which he shared with his sister. Which is why he resents her sister, for not staying by his side and helping him keep that ideal, which is why then he projects these feelings onto Anthy
He is afraid of the reality of the world of adults, but wants to grow in intelect because he believes that is what being an actual adult should be. Essentially he is an accidental 13 yo snob
Kozue, on the other hand, responds to this trauma by having her be exposed to the ugly aspects of adulthood early on, believing herself to be bigger and smarter than Miki because of this, but she herself is trapped in the same incomplete idea as Miki of what the adult life is. Dirty, shameful and cruel
So, by extension she posses the love she has for Miki as her sibling in the way that she believes to be "mature" which is taunting him sexually (she is a victim of grooming herself after all) but she actually wants to enjoy his company as siblings too, they're just deeply confused
Sorry about this long ass coment btw! I hope what I wrote made sense
ALSO!!! To add on
Of course the Miki trying to push Kozue into being something that pleases him is not right in any way.
Kozue and Anthy are right to feel disgust at his childish desire for purity, which is why they toy with him and lash out at him, because he can't understand how what he wishes for them and himself is making them trapped in an imposible ideal
That makes a lot of sense! Most of what I said about Miki can be taken as a half joke, since I haven't really done too much thinking about him compared to the rest. I like your analysis and comparison between him and Kozue.
(The Mikage thing is def a joke btw, his arc is important to the theme of the 2nd video! Don't tell anyone I said this though)
@@stushi I'm glad you liked it! I understand overlooking Miki a little bit because most of his problem is kind of abstract but at the same time way too simple. The naivete of a young child
Thank you so much for reading my coment.
I figured your comment on Mikage was a joke haha I wanted to joke along! I'm looking forward to the second video! I really loved this one
23:00 - Oh, it never occurred to me this would make anyone think Utena is STRAIGHT! I just figured she (and multiple other characters) were meant to be BI. Just because all the men in the story are trash doesn't mean her apparent attraction to them isn't real. And, speaking from experience, it is super easy to throw out those denial lines if part of your brain is going: "Well, I DO like guys. Girls are really pretty too, but...that's probably just aesthetic appreciation, right? Yeah. Let's go with that."
Granted, I first watched this show as an adult, after I'd figured that out. But just - the intro! How can you watch that intro without thinking Utena and Anthy are meant to be a couple!
I watched it first im my 20s and it was obvious to my closeted lesbian self that Utena wasnt actually into akio or touga. But it all depends on our lens on the world. I was raised in a very religious area of the world and it was very clear that I was expected to marry a man asap. Teens are easily impressed with gifts and attention. Plus comp het is a hell of a drug. Once convinced myself that I had a crush on a guy when I actually had a crush on his girlfriend. So kind of feel like along with all of the manipulation going on the prince is like the one unattainable guy she has a "crush" on but she actually has the crush on anthy but cannot bring herself to admit it. Akio is grooming her to think that he is the true object of her affections instead of Anthy and that shes a good hetero gal.
With that being said, totally understand a bi reading of utena as well. I cant put a pin on anthys sexuality since shes so used to being the rose bride. Just know that she truly loves utena in the end of the show
Another parallel that makes me think utena is a lesbian is how she misremembered her wanting to be a prince bc he's so cool (not even a crush) when her desire to help anthy was what actually lead her to ohtori. The prince never saved her and she never actually wanted to be a prince before she was told it was the only way to help anthy.
anthy needs prince, the musician
don't we all
"whO iS mIKAgE aNYwAY"
Okay but seriously this video was so good
Love how saionji was every controversial thing , which is true and accurate honestly
i swear to god when watching utena must put me in some sort of numb state to weirdness because i never even noticed the mimosa before until you pointed it out. wtf. anyway this is a good vid
stushi: spills...milk??? all over her chin sayin mokushikokishumokushishikumo
me: wow i'm subbing
i kinda interpreted utena as bi lol
but comphet utena is an interesting theory too
I definitely think she could be bi, but I don't think she can come to that conclusion at this point in her life. maybe after she's processed at least SOME of the baggage she's lugging around lol
This video is an artistic masterpiece just like Utena. 👌
thank u!!! but that is TOO MUCH. not even utena is as good as utena (in our minds)
Man, I just finished rewatching Utena recently and I’ve been compiling my own massive notes document on it to make my own first vid haha you beat me to it!!
One note I’ll add in regards to the movie, there’s a line about a car without a key will rust, which echoes the mentality of any princess without a prince will become a witch. But then Utena turns into a car anyway and Anthy opens up her palm to see the key in her hand. So anyway, obviously this key is the strap lol
Please share us!!!
twelve minutes in and surprised you haven't mentioned the influence of "Rose of Versailles" on "Utena" so far
the cliffhanger at the end lol is there a part 2 coming out?
indeed! should be out as soon as I can get some time off from my irl full-time job to finish editing it lol
@@stushi cool, u don’t really see a lot of new analysis vids of utena anymore so I got surprised when I found this. Looking forward to part 2 😄
bro your editing and humor is absolutely ON POINT!! also I loved your take on lesbian utena, tbh even as a lesbian myself I hadn't thought of analysing utena through comphet lens before and it's super interesting
that being said... where the HELL did you get your shirt from the beginning of the video???
everything i'm wearing is VERY bootleg unfortunately lmao. that shirt is from redbubble! www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/Student-Council-by-FeiLongEX/42737796.IJ6L0
I don’t know why this got recommended but I’m glad it did
This was great, im so glad you talked about the race part, i haven't seen many people talk ab the fact that the only poc characters (because as you said so yourself, the story takes place in an european setting) are the antagonist and and the "slave" to mostly white people. Its problematic when you think about it but i really hope that wasnt the creators intention. I do love that they gave a lot of depth to Anthy's character instead of just painting her as a submissive person whose only relevant character trait is her being subjected to other (white) peoples will. I'm not even gonna talk ab akio bc of how much i hate him lol but yeah, because of how little good representation there is of poc (esp in anime) it can be very harmful
also, coming back to this comment, i have a theory (idk if it has been confirmed or even talked about but i couldnt find anything ab it) that the hair colors of each character also represent the colors some (astrological) planets are associated with, for example neptune associated with color purple can represent "dreams, instincts, and psychic capabilities. She will symbolize creation, illusion, and being aware." (putting it in quotes bc i took it straight from google lol. Mars (red): "Mars is the planet of passion, anger, war, assertion, and separation, and its placement in your birth chart indicates how you pursue your goals, assert yourself, attack and defend, and cut people or circumstances off " . Jupiter (orange): "Jupiter is associated with the principles of growth, expansion, healing, prosperity, good fortune, and miracles." MIRACLES. Some characters dont fit as well with this theory but most do. also akio's weird looking at the stars thing, could relate to this theory bc of constelations. Aaand also the second ed mentions planets but i'd say this is reaching too far.
@@nothingirsiatwia7454 there is actually a lot of discussion around the planets and constellations being references throughout the show. I'm not an expert on any of that so don't have anything to add but just to say that you're not the first to suggest it and it seems likely that at least some of the crew was doing some of it deliberately!
to be super honest i'm not that personally interested in the question of utena's precise sexuality buuuut your humour and clear passion for the show is so wonderful to see. the editing is sPOT ON and your insight into the show's themes and symbolism definitely shines through, and I'd love to see what will come in p2, as well as any other rgu analysis you might decide to do in the future :)
also i'm now tempted to change the wikipedia description of rgu
it’s lovely seeing this amazing series talked about more
This is just about the best Utena video essay I've ever watched. YOUR EDITING!!!!
Fascinating video, kept my attention the whole time. 'Utena,' will still be relevant for a very long time. Liked the video and left a comment for the algorithm. Trend, baby, trend.
Thank you for giving the first video I've made your time of day, I'm flattered by the response! Any feedback, discussion, questions are welcome :~)
Edited to address a specific point of confusion/contention I see floating around:
Q: Is Utena could be bi?
A: Yes! I think she could be any sexuality except for straight.
Q: Why didn't I explicitly say in the video that Utena bi?
A: 1. Because I genuinely (naively) didn't think people would think I'm arguing that she couldn't possibly be bi, and 2. Bc it isn't relevant to my comphet argument. All I wanted to argue for in this video is that there is no chance in h*ck that she could be straight, and I used comphet as a tool to get there. But that doesn't mean that she couldn't be bi, pan, even trans if that's how you read her! I'm not here to tell anyone that she can't be the sexuality you have taken as truth, not even Ikuhara explicitly calling her a "lesbian" can.
So uh...be free! I am but one person on the internet, making a silly video about a 20+ year old silly show that we all love, but more importantly, love to laugh at.
You're beautiful and this video is beautiful
I really appreciate your dedication to shooting on different locations haha.
I also revisited Utena after years during 2020. Thank you for this, hope more watch this so I can have in person Utena Fanclubs
Ummm I'd watch you deep dive on every episode so theres that haha
Wonderful video.
It's funny that many westerners pick on Anthy being dark skinned as her being black /PoC. As far as I've read the design was a homage to character in another show (who was ethnically indian). I'm dark skinned myself but I'm not westerner, so I never took it as her being mistreated because of her race, and I generally don't think of anime characters as having race, unless the story explicitly wants me to.
The interpretation of her being black does fit well enough in the themes of the show tho. It just goes to show how different people from different backgrounds add to the process of creating art by interpreting differently from how the artist themselves wanted it
wasn't prepared for that cliffhanger at the end lol
good video!!
Aw thanks!! Your hxh analyses are some of my faves on here, means a lot!
Love the editing, can't wait to see what happens next!
HELLO JUST WANT TO SAY THIS VIDEO IS GREAT I CANT WAIT TO SEE PART 2 WHENEVER YOU MAKE THAT
Utena as a character has meant so much to me
also your humor is so on point and Im excited to see whatever else you make
I loved this very much. One has to appreciate how you've made it feel like an episode of Utena
I'm so happy to have come across this video. More 2021 RGU analysis please
I'm straight and I can honestly admit the first scene pulled me in with the pink-haired princess and white-haired prince because it reminded me of Rini/Chibiusa and Helios. I stayed despite spoiling it for myself. I cared, I'm a progressive Christian (although I know I have it easier as a straight person) and they had a Christian theme, and wanted to prove I supported same-sex couples, but I'm always going to feel more drawn to and comfortable with the man/woman and boy/girl stuff.
Juri is confirmed to like girls and maybe Ruka, but everyone seems to be either bisexual or just full of deep emotions and hormones. I can tell you from a straight person's perspective we do have times where we worry about our sexuality, but we get to come out of it with all our security and privilege. I think this show played on that too and it's something in-between confirming their relationship and just making an intense friendship. I even remember wanting to see a friendship story play out between Touga and Saionji and thought it was a classic example in the first episode and I either got it or they like each other.
The movie has Utena and Anthy together, but not Touga and Saionji and not even them as friends. I feel like the show is written to be seen as friendship by some and romantic by others, which hit me some years after I watched it. I know the manga had them all end up with opposite partners and even the manga that came out recently borders both friendship and romance, aside from Juri always being confirmed. For me, deep friendships work, but I also know my bias. I don't really want the LGBTQAI+ community messed with like that. Confirm stuff or be clear about what you did, although this show has more respect from me because Juri is confirmed to like Shiori.
you have to consider the time the show came on air. Subtext is a thing to avoid censorship, especially on tv products, while the movies was allowed more liberties. I think Ikuhara has comment plenty on the romance he tried to build between the characters, but i can see why people interpret it as a friendship. Either way, their relationship is so complex and beautiful, one of the best still on this day
@@quasimodoff I've heard that too about Ikuhara. I just got so worked up and I ended up thinking about how this is done in other shows and stuff. I think some censorship is really sad. It feels like a lot of people that I've seen fight stuff like this certainly don't fit tradition or they back people who don't fit traditional values (like they get a divorce for something other than cheating or they are a woman with power, etc.), but they wanted their place and they act like no one has to completely agree but they get to be there or that we all must agree with their lives and it's wrong if we don't but that they can keep other people away or shoved in the back.
I think Utena covered that too, the hypocrisy in society and how it breaks people, especially in adolescence and how we hope we can break free and live happily as adults. Some people, like how Anthy's brother had stayed the same age for so long, stay in the system though. It's definitely complex.
THIS WAS SOOOOO GOOOOOOOOD I MOBSESSED WITH YOUR WAY OF CREATING CONTENT
congrats on your first vid! i wish you success! the opening alone was hilarious.
27:34 that f-ing piano.... you just brought up all the trauma of trying to make literal sense of some bizzarro scene with your previous bit, hard xut into this segment with that song. OMG, well done!
woah Editing of this video is sublime
Footage accompanying the narration at 8:19 is choice. Absolutely heartwarming
You made me laugh all the time! You're too funny, but I also liked the "serious" parts. Utena is my favourite anime and it deserves more love.
this was so over the top; thanks, I love it!
this video made me laugh out loud multiple times, brought up a ton of good points about utena, and also made me want to rewatch this show
Love love love love LOVE this video, along with the follow up ❤️
So much effort into the filming and editing, and it still doesn't answer the question in the title. Part 2 in inevitable!
Hey now I do answer the question! Right at the start! During the title sequence of the video! Like this: "(yes)"
loved this, can't wait for part 2!
I saw "utena is nge for lesbians" and lost it. 😂🤣😂
Hey nice editing! Basically Utena has enough vagueness symbolism and reference to archetypes that it actually is more like a mirror while your average piece of media gives at least some hard declarations so its like a road sign i guess. Who you are defines what you will see - i knew a girl who just idolised Akio and didn't think much of the other characters and yeah we arent in touch any more lol. For me as a straight* guy the gender roles were what resonated with me, a system created by action on both sides out of good faith and misunderstanding and surviving simply out of inertia as people are brought into it in such a young age that its such a deep part of their psyche that they never get to reevaluate it. This is connected to Ikuhara using ghosts a lot (the past that stays and wields power over us with no visible presence), or the establishment that fabricates children into standardised shapes and formes in Penguindrum. And yeah say Ghost in the Shell or Evangelion use lots of symbolism but they also have a strong enough "real plot" so its not so in your face about it, for the most part.
*mostly - only a sith deals in absolutes lol
I'm rewatching the series as an adult (my Japanese aunt who lived in Hawaii sent us the vhs tapes as kids). I thought some things were fishy when I was younger but wtf do kids know? CONFIRMED as an adult lol. Prob why I loved it so much.
If only my mom knew what tf I was watching.
This sat on my watchlist for way too long. Great stuff!
In the manga the story is different 100 pages in but Mickey kisses Utena on the couch when she’s unconscious=aka Utena can’t consent. I was like WOaH red flag Mickey!!!
Don't ever skip the music of Utena. J. A. Seazer is genius
this was such a great video! i can't wait to see more from you :)
"recap episode that had extremely important information in it"
I am so, so sorry you missed out on that experience
i've found this video in the rgu tag on tumblr and i'm so glad i did, it's so good omg
This was amazing, i need part 2 ❤
This so intense...emotionally overwhelmed by both the video and these comments
There is so much I need to emotionally process
This is one of the best and well-hit videos
Thank you
Enjoyed your editing, going see what else you made!
💕💕omg how r u so small this is too good omg u should have so many more followers 💕💝💝
I just remembered some more recommendations i couldn't not share for who misses Revolutionary Girl Utena:
-The cartoon called "Courage the Cowardly Dog" aired an watch worth memorable metaphorical episode called "The Mask" scary in how realistically domestic abuse impacted a pink bunny and a kitty, who are a subtext sapphic couple as stated by the series' creator that this was as far as they could go back then in north american television in the beginning of the new millennium.
-The 2015 manga and 2018 anime called "Yagate Kimi Ni Naru" ("Bloom Into You" ) is hella gay in all the right ways and about the relationship between a pink haired schoolgirl protagonist struggling with the conflict between the idealized sociocultural romance ideals she internalized growing up and her gray-lesbianism and a troubled empty self-hating cutesy dark haired girl lacking in personality and theirs already mentioned respective identity crisis, doesn't this sound familiar, huh?
Whoever is interested in both should at least seek TH-cam video analysis of said works of art because they are worth a watch, but I believe the @Zeria channel worth watch video analysis of my second recommendation stands out among other videos because I haven't yet seen and couldn't do a better dive at all of the revolutionary meanings of the second recommendation, i believe she is a transbian with the currently biggest yuri/Girl's Love themed channel of TH-cam.
I just finished watching Revolutionary Girl Utena for the first time (I've also been reading a lot and seeing what other people have to say about it and I watched the movie recently). I really love the show so much. I also really enjoyed your discussion of it. I'm excited for part 2!
I appreciate the editing in this video. I know how much work it takes and you've gone above and beyond in this regard. You've got a good source of timing and comedy as well.
You pull from a lot of readings here, certainly some of the more popular (in our demographic) ways of looking at the show.
I'm not sure that I kept the thread through all of your points, or that they came across as profound as they are, but I sincerely enjoyed watching the video all the same. I'd like to see you dive deeper into one specific angle or reading (dark skin, lgbt suppression, toxic masculinity) and flesh it out with the amount of effort and passion you showed here.
Still, great work and I will be watching what you do next.
Just leaving a comment here to give some support, this vídeo is so well made omgg🥺🥺 I hope you the best
this video is incredible, i love it
is utena gay?
yes her and anthy were confirmed by the director to be in love
also i think you might very much enjoy watching the rose of versailles
It's definitely on my (very long) list, I know it's a huge influence on utena!
Is this really your _first_ video?
Because it is heck of incredible work, thank you and instant sub.
JESUS CHRIST THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST VIDEOS IVE EVER SEEN
seriously, it was perfect in EVERY aspect, thank you for this, youre so talented
aaaand, i personally interpretate the swords hurting anthy as a paralell to rape culture, and akio acting so indefferent towards it is actually how society treats this subject, since it happens so often
finally sitting down to watch this on lesbian visibility day (woo!). I had no idea this was your first video, the editing was amazing! Can't wait to see what else u upload. I'll have to rewatch Utena in the meantime,,
This was treasure, I cant wait too see more.
Please make more please I loved this
That's the plan!!! Thank u!!!
As you said, there is so much to talk about in regards to this show! It is true that lgbt+ representation is more prevalent in tv these days, but I view the most important parts of Utena to be the themes of agency and self-realization/awareness, and that will always be relevant.
I literally spat out my drink when I saw you trying to finish your video in the bathtub :D
This is an extremely excellent and good video.
Thank You, Oh Great Utena Fandom Creator. I Take Thine Compliment As A Blessing From The Gods.
this is soooo good and im so excited to see more! also thank you for the vomit cw not enough people do that and as an emetophobic person it really helps :')
My two favourites animes, Rose of Versailles and Utena
Let me stop you right at the beginning with the 20 years thing. The timescale at which society changes is not decades or years, its hardly even centuries, but the previous few centuries of permanent revolutionary change driven by science have completely robbed us from any sense of what social stability even means. People are born, grow up in a community and live out the rest of their lives with the code they inherited from that community, but we constantly scream that we are individuals and we make our own choices, which is also true in a way but ask your individual self who are you outside the community that gave you your formative experiences and a broader context for your social life. My point is feminism etc is still a revolutionary new idea in a globalised 2022 and will continue to be such for centuries, and this will insure the continued relevance of Utena in the future. Sorry i had to get this out, 20 years is basically irrelevant, nice video so far.
Out of all the video essays on Utena the only reason why I chose yours was bc you had the balls to have the hammer and sickle lmaoo. Salutations comrade!!
Ayyy best reason to have done it
I dont know how cultural significant Utena still is but i do know that its Twin Peaks level surreal bat shit craziness means it will never stop being interesting to dissect.
This was extremely well crafted and really funny! Just watched the whole thing and i haven't even seen the anime. I loved the editing style :)
Ah thank u sm! Means a lot coming from u considering i think ur a comedy god
@@stushi aw you are sweet. What's your next vid gonna be about?
girlll i am so waiting for part 2. and if u make more vids like this ill be a religious subscriber
come onnnnn
@@thedistinguished5255 did you make this comment before or after I released my 2nd vid? Bc if right before that is some SERIOUS predictive powers u got there
@@stushi BEFORE!!! Cant wait to watch it tonight :D
If not your reply i wouldve waited another month xddd
This review helped me realize that I am gay! Thanks.
Wow. What a great video!!! I love your humor it’s so funny. And I love Utena and I feel like you’re joke style is perfect for making fun of Utena lol. Cant wait to see more!!!!!