True story: A couple months after a moved into my house, I got an energy bill for over $950. No late fees. No multiple months due. I owed over $950 for a single month. After going back and forth with the energy company, they determined that the meter reader misread my meter. I actually owed closer to $150. I think the ex president of the Texas Bowl is now my meter reader.
@@DolFan316 FSU's, worst, team in decades was, A, Rivalry Game, loss, away from going to, A, Bowl Game, if that isn't an unmistakable sign that far too many exist, nothing is.
Jim McIngvale -- Mattress Mack -- is about the biggest promoter of anything Houston. It takes a lot to get him angry. In this case, it was warranted. He is a successful furniture store owner because he runs it with integrity. He doesn't put the Gallery Furniture name on the Texas Bowl, but he is a big supporter.
This bowl along with WrestleMania 17 in April of the following year (which did way better than this bowl in terms of attendance as it was a sellout) are among the last events the Astrodome ever hosted. As of 2008, the Astrodome is simply rotting away and is closed to the public due to multiple building code violations as plans on what to do with it have come and gone.
He did say “…among the last events”. Yes, High School games are big down here…hardly Wrestlemania or anything resembling a stadium that literally has a turf named after it.
I'm surprised that the Astrodome still exists to this day, despite of all of those rotten conditions. Like it had lost its prestige and mystique over the years as a major college or mainstream pro sports venue.
Growing up in Eastern NC, these 99, 2000 ECU teams were my introduction to college football. Leonard Henry, David Garrard, Richard Alston, great times.
I was hoping to hear the buzzer from The Price Is Right used when everyone on Contestants' Row overbids, when you asked how many tickets were actually sold, and the buzzer going off several times.
@@JaguarGator8- could of used the Family Feud buzzard for being wrong & a ding ding ding for being the closes. Would say use the Jeopardy theme (Final Jeopardy) but TH-cam will give you a copyright strike on that one.
Rice never has fans unless it is the opposing team. School is very small, so it isn’t a good example. Imagine both school’s fans NOT supporting their team.
@@KWCline91 Only, because, they couldn't get any, worse, despite, losing, a, football team, and, an, amusement park, they're still the, most-populous, Southern city, and, the, fourth-most-populous, city, overall, a bizarre collection of facts, indeed.
On the other channel, Jag talked about how the team president of the New England Patriots lied about the number of tickets being sold to the 1988 home finale against the Falcons.
This was an awesome video. So interesting and well done...and you are one of the few people who actually use the word "zeitgeist" correctly. Excellent job!!
Texas Tech could be considered the home team for this game. Major Texas teams are usually fairly popular throughout Texas, unless it's a rival city. At least now. This was before Tech started getting popular after their famous upset of Texas in 2008. Back in 2000, if it wasn't UT or A&M, you probably wouldn't have much of an audience. They probably would have been better off bringing in UH, who went 3-8 that year.
You mean the UH team that, according to the video, drew less than 4000 fans to its final regular season game that year? That's even fewer than the real ticket sales for this bowl game.
I just said the same thing on another comment. I’m barely 30, but still old enough to remember this state being mostly A&M/UT until the rise of Tech & Baylor in football/basketball and TCU going a decade of being the 2nd best football program in the state.
@@patrickmorgan4006 I mean yeah, but UH wasn’t drawing because they were terrible. In years where they’re good? That city is about its own “people” before anybody else.
I can understand if they sold 2800 tickets and goofed with the comma, but 4200? While better far as how many tickets were sold but still you would think that they could had at least double check the amount of tickets sold before reporting the numbers to the press.
One other problem for TV coverage of this bowl game: In many major markets, viewers that night had a choice of a local telecast of a hometown NHL or NBA team and a bowl game between two schools in small markets with no national following or tradition of excellence, which game would they choose? Hometown pro hockey or hometown pro basketball. Not a third rate bowl game.
And the rockets were playing in the summit that night and drew 13975 against the supersonics. The team had Steve Francis and Hakeem on it still versus a pretty decent sonics team that went 44-38. Plus you had the aeros there. They were a 5 seed in the playoffs that year and I think they got Toyota center voted on in 2000
I was at that game. There was a snow storm that closed the Lubbock airport and shut down parts of Interstates between Lubbock and Houston. Otherwise, there would have been much more Red Raiders at the game. I sat next to a guy who drove halfway to Mexico before going east to Houston. The Houston media made fun of the bowl. The Big 12 did not support the bowl. There were a lot more issues than overstating the ticket sales. No one other than Matress Mac wanted the bowl. I remember that bowl vividly and we were routinely blasted for being in the bowl, then we laid an egg during the game. This video just scratches the surface of the media's reaction to this bowl.
5:43 You absolutely can consider Texas Tech the home team in this case. It might be in Lubbock, sure, but its fanbase isn't limited to the Panhandle. Tech's fanbase extends quite a bit beyond the Lubbock DMA. The Red Raiders have gained such a deep foothold in Texas that their fans have been known to take over Texan Big 12 rivals' venues. Their fans did it at Texas in the 2019-20 men's hoops season. Also, in the 2022 football season, TCU is so scared of Red Raiders fans taking over Amon G. Carter Stadium that TCU won't even sell single-game tickets for their home game against Tech! The Red Raiders trolled TCU on Twitter about it in various ways.
Ehh in early 2000 tho? Greater Houston is almost exclusively dominated by UT/A&M to the point that UT played a hand in keeping UH out of the big 12 a few years back. Now, as far as the TCU thing that actually makes sense being that Lubbock is just under 3 hours from Fort Worth and they have a HUGE alumni base in the DFW area. I think folks forget the “take over your arena” era of Tech sports is fairly recent.
I really don’t have a problem w/the number of bowl games we have today, I look @ them as a reward for the Players, Staff, & Athletic Department. I used to work in a Major D1 Athletic Department on the .Football side. These players work nearly year round either conditioning during the Summer, Fall Practice in August, Games & Practice during the Fall, Bowl Practice during December, a brief break in January & February (but still conditioning & lifting weights), Spring Practice, then another brief break before Summer Conditioning. Those schools up North are probably very happy to get away briefly to warmer climes in December & January.
I had just completed the 1st semester of my freshman year of college in the Houston area when this Bowl was played. There were constant commercial hyping up the game. I might have considered going if I had the money. We love Mattress Mack down here but he was way in above his head with this one. 😄
I was at this game in 2000. It was poorly attended by the Texas Tech fans due to there being a bad ice storm in Lubbock. ECU hung on to win. The next year we were not so lucky after leading Marshall 38-8 at the half.
I knew there was another reason I don't like that Matress guy. In addition to not being able to take ribbing during the WS and being a Tea Party supporter in the early 2010s he is responsible for this. Also RIP Mike Leach
@@brentcoltrane9640 I, was, being, somewhat, facetious, but, you truly bring up some great points, the ego of that man has really gotten him into a lot of trouble, but, his talent has kept him employed.
If this had been an actual bowl game, the attention signal you just heard would have been followed by information regarding spiking the ball on every play.
Well CONSIDERING the FACT that East Carolina and Texas Tech are BOTH WELL BELOW a 39.6 and should NOT EVEN BOTHER to SHOW UP for THEIR games, it's NO WONDER that this would HAPPEN.
3:40 Fucking mattress Mack is a legend. This dude has silently done SO much for Houston. Apparently he had a hand in wrestlemania 17 (known colloquially by wrestling fans as “x-seven”) coming to the astrodome as well. That event is STILL considered, over 20 years later, as the biggest (and by most accounts BEST) wrestling pay per view of ALL TIME earning world wrestling entertainment (world wrestling federation at the time) over $3.5 million. Many even consider it the last great event in wrestling history till this day. Main event being the 2nd of a wrestlemania trilogy between the now largest box office draw in Hollywood the rock, vs hometown (state) hero and certified wrestling LEGEND stone cold Steve Austin. The event saw the typically anti authoritarian Steve Austin, side with the evil owner of the company vince McMahon in what MANY (including myself) see as the moment where wrestling jumped the shark as the perpetual “insubordinate employee” Austin accepted help from the man who had held him down for the previous 3 years, simply to beat the rock (whomst Austin had bested in ALL of their previous encounters wrestlemania or otherwise) Lord knows how much revenue that event and others organized by mattress Mack, helped other businesses in the greater Houston area. Mattress Mack is a fuckin REAL one.
True story: A couple months after a moved into my house, I got an energy bill for over $950. No late fees. No multiple months due. I owed over $950 for a single month. After going back and forth with the energy company, they determined that the meter reader misread my meter. I actually owed closer to $150.
I think the ex president of the Texas Bowl is now my meter reader.
I’m starting to lose track of all these bowls lmao
I lost track about 25 years ago. There were already way too many bowls then...and it seems like the number has doubled since!
I've ceased counting, entirely.
@@DolFan316 FSU's, worst, team in decades was, A, Rivalry Game, loss, away from going to, A, Bowl Game, if that isn't an unmistakable sign that far too many exist, nothing is.
Jim McIngvale -- Mattress Mack -- is about the biggest promoter of anything Houston. It takes a lot to get him angry. In this case, it was warranted. He is a successful furniture store owner because he runs it with integrity. He doesn't put the Gallery Furniture name on the Texas Bowl, but he is a big supporter.
Love Mack
This bowl along with WrestleMania 17 in April of the following year (which did way better than this bowl in terms of attendance as it was a sellout) are among the last events the Astrodome ever hosted. As of 2008, the Astrodome is simply rotting away and is closed to the public due to multiple building code violations as plans on what to do with it have come and gone.
That’s not true it hosted high school football games for the next two or three years. Along with some HBCU games.
He did say “…among the last events”. Yes, High School games are big down here…hardly Wrestlemania or anything resembling a stadium that literally has a turf named after it.
I'm surprised that the Astrodome still exists to this day, despite of all of those rotten conditions. Like it had lost its prestige and mystique over the years as a major college or mainstream pro sports venue.
Growing up in Eastern NC, these 99, 2000 ECU teams were my introduction to college football.
Leonard Henry, David Garrard, Richard Alston, great times.
Was Vince McMahon involved in coming up with the numbers? #93,173
I was hoping to hear the buzzer from The Price Is Right used when everyone on Contestants' Row overbids, when you asked how many tickets were actually sold, and the buzzer going off several times.
Now I’m upset I didn’t think of that. That’s genius
That's a creative and hilarious bit
How about the "Price Is Right" loser music?
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@@JaguarGator8- could of used the Family Feud buzzard for being wrong & a ding ding ding for being the closes.
Would say use the Jeopardy theme (Final Jeopardy) but TH-cam will give you a copyright strike on that one.
Rice never has fans unless it is the opposing team. School is very small, so it isn’t a good example. Imagine both school’s fans NOT supporting their team.
"Gallery Furniture Bowl" good ole Houston, never change.
Things are getting better in the city.
Texas, somehow, failure's, increased.
@@KWCline91 Only, because, they couldn't get any, worse, despite, losing, a, football team, and, an, amusement park, they're still the, most-populous, Southern city, and, the, fourth-most-populous, city, overall, a bizarre collection of facts, indeed.
On the other channel, Jag talked about how the team president of the New England Patriots lied about the number of tickets being sold to the 1988 home finale against the Falcons.
Didn't he do one on Cincy selling tix to seats that weren't built?
@@E.HondaSF Yeah. He did. Super Bowl XLV four decades before Super Bowl XLV
@@E.HondaSF I lose track, but if I haven’t yet, welcome to the faculty lounge!
Always wondered what happened to the Bluebonnet Bowl. Remembered it being in the mix during the '70s, then it just disappeared.
That final Bluebonnet Bowl in 1987 should never have been played. Neither Pitt nor Texas were ever paid for their appearance in the game!
This was an awesome video. So interesting and well done...and you are one of the few people who actually use the word "zeitgeist" correctly. Excellent job!!
Love the videos! Thought I had already subscribed a while back😂 but I was wrong. Officially subscribed.
This unofficial Jaguar Gator 8 historian will remind everyone you made a video about another ticket fiasco at Vanderbilt.
great vid always enjoy
Texas Tech could be considered the home team for this game. Major Texas teams are usually fairly popular throughout Texas, unless it's a rival city. At least now. This was before Tech started getting popular after their famous upset of Texas in 2008. Back in 2000, if it wasn't UT or A&M, you probably wouldn't have much of an audience. They probably would have been better off bringing in UH, who went 3-8 that year.
Agreed. I've heard about Tech being popular in the Metroplex, which is part of why Tech and Baylor had played each other at AT&T Stadium for a while.
You mean the UH team that, according to the video, drew less than 4000 fans to its final regular season game that year? That's even fewer than the real ticket sales for this bowl game.
I just said the same thing on another comment. I’m barely 30, but still old enough to remember this state being mostly A&M/UT until the rise of Tech & Baylor in football/basketball and TCU going a decade of being the 2nd best football program in the state.
@@patrickmorgan4006 I mean yeah, but UH wasn’t drawing because they were terrible. In years where they’re good? That city is about its own “people” before anybody else.
@@avantesmith6442 Yes, and we are talking about the year that they were terrible and they didn't draw anyone to games. That's all I was saying.
I can understand if they sold 2800 tickets and goofed with the comma, but 4200? While better far as how many tickets were sold but still you would think that they could had at least double check the amount of tickets sold before reporting the numbers to the press.
One other problem for TV coverage of this bowl game: In many major markets, viewers that night had a choice of a local telecast of a hometown NHL or NBA team and a bowl game between two schools in small markets with no national following or tradition of excellence, which game would they choose?
Hometown pro hockey or hometown pro basketball. Not a third rate bowl game.
Each university has a strong statewide following, but getting many fans outside their states to care was gonna be a bit of a challenge.
And the rockets were playing in the summit that night and drew 13975 against the supersonics. The team had Steve Francis and Hakeem on it still versus a pretty decent sonics team that went 44-38. Plus you had the aeros there. They were a 5 seed in the playoffs that year and I think they got Toyota center voted on in 2000
I remember in the 1970’s watching the Astro Blue Bonnet Bowl on the Mizzlou Television Network.
You make bowl games sound like the wild west back in the day. Never hear about any controversies theses days.
These days it's just half the players on both teams refusing to play in them, that's all.
The Houston Bowl: "we've sold 28,000 tickets!"
Everyone: "stop the cap fam"
I was at that game. There was a snow storm that closed the Lubbock airport and shut down parts of Interstates between Lubbock and Houston. Otherwise, there would have been much more Red Raiders at the game. I sat next to a guy who drove halfway to Mexico before going east to Houston. The Houston media made fun of the bowl. The Big 12 did not support the bowl. There were a lot more issues than overstating the ticket sales. No one other than Matress Mac wanted the bowl. I remember that bowl vividly and we were routinely blasted for being in the bowl, then we laid an egg during the game. This video just scratches the surface of the media's reaction to this bowl.
5:43 You absolutely can consider Texas Tech the home team in this case. It might be in Lubbock, sure, but its fanbase isn't limited to the Panhandle. Tech's fanbase extends quite a bit beyond the Lubbock DMA. The Red Raiders have gained such a deep foothold in Texas that their fans have been known to take over Texan Big 12 rivals' venues. Their fans did it at Texas in the 2019-20 men's hoops season. Also, in the 2022 football season, TCU is so scared of Red Raiders fans taking over Amon G. Carter Stadium that TCU won't even sell single-game tickets for their home game against Tech! The Red Raiders trolled TCU on Twitter about it in various ways.
Ehh in early 2000 tho? Greater Houston is almost exclusively dominated by UT/A&M to the point that UT played a hand in keeping UH out of the big 12 a few years back. Now, as far as the TCU thing that actually makes sense being that Lubbock is just under 3 hours from Fort Worth and they have a HUGE alumni base in the DFW area. I think folks forget the “take over your arena” era of Tech sports is fairly recent.
I really don’t have a problem w/the number of bowl games we have today, I look @ them as a reward for the Players, Staff, & Athletic Department. I used to work in a Major D1 Athletic Department on the .Football side. These players work nearly year round either conditioning during the Summer, Fall Practice in August, Games & Practice during the Fall, Bowl Practice during December, a brief break in January & February (but still conditioning & lifting weights), Spring Practice, then another brief break before Summer Conditioning.
Those schools up North are probably very happy to get away briefly to warmer climes in December & January.
After 10:58 I’m hungry for some Golden Corral.
So do you recap the same exact information repeatedly to fluff your video run time, or…
I would say that they would have been better off running in Rice Stadium, but they probably would've lied about those figures as well
They would have been better off at Cy-Fair ISD's stadium
While I doubt the two companies are related there's also 2 Gallery Furniture locations in the Atlanta GA area. In Gainesville and College Park.
Two cities named, after, college towns in different states, what a peculiar fact to learn here, no question about it.
Originally run by a guy called the Wolf Man and his daughter Donna.
@@nicoleknight9412 Suspiciously, not, Jack, terrific.
What could go wrong 😑
I had just completed the 1st semester of my freshman year of college in the Houston area when this Bowl was played. There were constant commercial hyping up the game. I might have considered going if I had the money. We love Mattress Mack down here but he was way in above his head with this one. 😄
If lying about Tickets sold could tank an entire football league, then it certianly would tank a bowl game.
Ah, good ole Mattress Mack. Great smoke blower he is.
The rockets....to be blunt were on a rebuild year
And 12000 out of like 16000 isn't too bad
I was at this game in 2000. It was poorly attended by the Texas Tech fans due to there being a bad ice storm in Lubbock. ECU hung on to win. The next year we were not so lucky after leading Marshall 38-8 at the half.
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I thought you were about to say 2,800 tickets sold for a minute there.
Ridex needs to sponsor a bowl game called the toilet bowl.
This bowl was replaced by the Texas Bowl.
I was one of the 4k muppets that bought an advance ticket. It was actually an entertaining game. No buyers remorse.
I knew there was another reason I don't like that Matress guy. In addition to not being able to take ribbing during the WS and being a Tea Party supporter in the early 2010s he is responsible for this. Also RIP Mike Leach
Vince young was selling out that stadium around that time
Mike Leach's offense was nothing but the run and gun offenses the Oilers & Lions had that didn't take long for defenses to figure out.
Perhaps, he should have locked all of the opposing defensive coaches in a closet until right, before, the Game started.
I'd say it was more the other way around. Mike Leach never figured out how to coach defense or stop other teams by hiring a quality DC.
@@brentcoltrane9640 I, was, being, somewhat, facetious, but, you truly bring up some great points, the ego of that man has really gotten him into a lot of trouble, but, his talent has kept him employed.
@@matthewdaley746 ah gotcha. I was like "...but they didn't figure it out for like 2 decades... 🙃" my bad lol. I agree
@@brentcoltrane9640 No problem, catastrophically unlucky.
22 Years Ago
Counting done by WWE standards.
I thought everything was better with Bluebonnet on it
Someone told a lie puzzled me shocked 😮
Dec.27/2000 the day Mario Lemieux came out Of retirement
Mattress Mack, the running up in Conan's contest
Morale- You don’t f*ck with Mattress Mack.
Damn my team lost. So sad
This is a test. This is only a test.
If this had been an actual bowl game, the attention signal you just heard would have been followed by information regarding spiking the ball on every play.
We need more toilet bowls.
Go Pirates
Well CONSIDERING the FACT that East Carolina and Texas Tech are BOTH WELL BELOW a 39.6 and should NOT EVEN BOTHER to SHOW UP for THEIR games, it's NO WONDER that this would HAPPEN.
Hell yay first
👍👍
I love mattress mac
Geez, get around to it. Who wants to sit through all the intro? Hard to believe there are 6K subscribers to this channel.
wow
JG9 going WAH WAH WAH is fake news!!
What's wrong with this guy's voice?
This is fake as hell
3:40 Fucking mattress Mack is a legend. This dude has silently done SO much for Houston. Apparently he had a hand in wrestlemania 17 (known colloquially by wrestling fans as “x-seven”) coming to the astrodome as well.
That event is STILL considered, over 20 years later, as the biggest (and by most accounts BEST) wrestling pay per view of ALL TIME earning world wrestling entertainment (world wrestling federation at the time) over $3.5 million. Many even consider it the last great event in wrestling history till this day. Main event being the 2nd of a wrestlemania trilogy between the now largest box office draw in Hollywood the rock, vs hometown (state) hero and certified wrestling LEGEND stone cold Steve Austin. The event saw the typically anti authoritarian Steve Austin, side with the evil owner of the company vince McMahon in what MANY (including myself) see as the moment where wrestling jumped the shark as the perpetual “insubordinate employee” Austin accepted help from the man who had held him down for the previous 3 years, simply to beat the rock (whomst Austin had bested in ALL of their previous encounters wrestlemania or otherwise)
Lord knows how much revenue that event and others organized by mattress Mack, helped other businesses in the greater Houston area. Mattress Mack is a fuckin REAL one.
There were actually several .com bowls.. most famous probably the Insight.com bowl... and more recent the GoDaddy.com bowl
Although my favorite sponsor bowl was the Blockbuster Bowl, cause well it was Blockbuster and we all miss Blockbusters, lol
@@mikemoore5263 I don’t. Cockbuster killed countless mom and pop video stores
I’m puzzled