I live in San Antonio and I promise you. If San Antonio were to get an NFL team of our own. 90% of current SA Cowboys fans would switch over in a heartbeat. Especially young fans such as myself who weren't even born the last time the Cowboys won a Super Bowl. We want our own team especially one that actually wins.
Exactly!! We actually have very passionate sports fans here but we’re always over looked !! This city has shown up for every team in every sport minor or pro for decades were big enough for us to have a pro team in all major sports leagues
There is no guarantee that if you got a team that you would actually be a winning team. Just look at the last 2 teams who joined the league. The browns and Texans. Neither have even been to the AFC championship and the browns have only made the playoffs 3 times with 0 division titles
As a Houston fan a big problem with it before this year was the fact the Cowboys monopolized almost all of Texas for the game to be aired. I lived 20 minutes South West of Houston area and was restricted from watching the Texans. Only allowed to watch Dallas. I wasn’t allowed to watch it outside of RedZone without a VPN. I moved 2 hours down the coast from Houston and no surprise still couldn’t watch the closest team, Houston. It wasn’t until this 2024 year that I was able to watch the Texans (likely because of the interest they got last year going further than the cowboys in the playoffs). This always frustrated me because the Texans don’t even play at the same time as the Cowboys. If Texas wants a third team they need to break up Dallas’s monopoly over the regions and streaming. At least allow the early games to be watched when Dallas isn’t playing.
To be fair on San Antonio’s part, When the AFL and XFL put their respective teams in the Alamodome, San Antonio fans consistently sold out the stadium more than any other team. So it’s not like the possibility of wanting football in the area is completely ridiculous.
You guys mean AAF, not AFL. I was at the Commanders' first game in 2019, it was very well attended. The team did well and the fans kept coming. Then it all imploded. The Brahmas arent a bad team but they havent dominated like St Louis or Birmingham. The 2024 attendance was well below St. Louis (almost 23000 fewer on avg) and even below Washington DC. If the UFL can do a better job marketing in 2025 the numbers might come up, but without developing into a dominant team, attendance in San Antonio will still pale next to the Battlehawks
St. Louis is by far the XFL city with the most fans. They fill out an NFL stadium and once had an NFL team and got screwed by their owner who got sued by the city and lost.
As someone from Houston who now lives in between Austin and San Antonio, it’s crazy too see how everyone’s a Cowboys fan and close to no Texans fans. It’s literally a 2:30 drive I take dozens of times a year but the fan base is strong. Also north Austin where Austin FC play in everything in between SA and Austin like New Braunfels, Kyle and Buda are some of the fastest growing areas in the US and have been.
It’s honestly the reverse logic of Astros-Rangers. Most Texans lean towards the Astros; especially south of Waco. Whereas Ranger fans mainly hail from here in DFW and the rest of North Texas.
During Hurricane Katrina, the Saints temporarily played in San Antonio, they almost got an NFL franchise before LA but I realized Jones wouldn’t let this happen
My Staff Sergeant in the Marines was from San Antonio and plastered all over his office were Spurs and Cowboys merch in equal amounts. I'm not sure a new team could get San Antonio fans to abandon the Cowboys at this point.
@@fighterck6241That’s definitely true most people in San Antonio are unfortunately Cowboy fans. It honestly makes me upset that we won’t get an NFL team because some people in my hometown are nostalgic for a mediocre team that never won in my lifetime (I’m about to be 30).
Stop all these lies. SA was demographics changed drastically. It changed to tourists town. It could support a team like Las Vegas. They didn't want to blah blah yada yada. Certain demographics.
@@redmanr5522 the Cowboys literally have less playoff wins since the Texans even came into existence. Your franchise has been poverty for decades, whereas the Texans have actually faced the struggles of being an expansion team. Not to mention y'all just extended Dak through 2028.
fun fact, NFL wanted to give “Americas Team” label to the Steelers originally. The Rooney Family declined because they said something along the lines of “We’re not Americas team, we’re Pittsburghs Team”
They gave it to Cowboys, and it was not the nfl, it was an announcer or sportswriter/caster because they had the largest fanbase and the nickname caught on.
Bob Ryan, an NFL Films producer, coined the phrase "America's Team" for the Dallas Cowboys in 1978. Ryan came up with the phrase while editing the Cowboys' 1978 season highlight film. He noticed that the Cowboys were popular with fans everywhere they played, and that they were always featured on national television. Not offered to Pittsburgh
New York only has one NFL team, the Bills. The Giants and Jets both play in Jersey. And Maryland has two teams, with the Commanders playing in Landover.
Too bad playing in and being based out of aren’t the same. If so explain the San Francisco 49ers playing every “home” game in Santa Clara. Or the Dallas cowboys. Should be the Arlington cowboys.
No one consider the Giants or Jets NEW JERSEY teams dude, wtf. Who cares if the stadium is located slightly further away from the city they're MEANT to represent? Most people conceptualize cities (and literally categorize them) as bigger than just the official city limits.
The Dallas Cowboys are the most popular team in the southern United States as well as being the most popular team in San Antonio, Austin, OKC , Tulsa, Little Rock, Memphis, Shreveport and Albuquerque.
North Louisiana isn’t like the South part of the state. There aren’t many Cajuns up there is basically just a continuation of East Texas. So that’s also why they root for the Cowboys
UT is part of reason Austin FC doesn’t play in downtown Austin. They don’t even have a men’s soccer team. A team won’t be in Austin bc UT is too scared of losing fans to a pro team. San Antonio will work if they replace the Alamodome.
I have a colleague who is born and raised in Houston but grew up a Cowboys fan because the Oilers left when he was young. By the time the Texans arrived he was already deep rooted as a Dallas fan.
For three years, Dallas had TWO professional football teams. From 1960-1962 there were the Dallas Texans. In 1963, they moved to Kansas City and became the Chiefs.
I am a lifelong San Antonio resident. If the NFL approved a new team and built a stadium in the area near San Marcos, Texas, it would be a great move. It is well known that Austin and SA have grown by leaps and bounds in the last decade, but the San Marcos/Kyle/Buda region has seen a huge influx of growth. Building a stadium here would be a no-brainer and would allow the franchise to have a huge fanbase in both cities.
Even growing up in Houston, felt like half the kids in school were Cowboys fans vs Texans. Plus, the prime time slot is so key. Texans just played on SNF for the first time since 2019. How many times have the Cowboys played on SNF since then?
That would be tough. Regardless if the Texans win six Super Bowls (hopefully), it’s hard to overtake what Jerry Jones did for the Cowboys to make them the brand they are.
@@KWCline91I don’t think they could flop the whole state, like they won’t take San Antonio and Austin, but the rural areas right outside of Houston is usually cowboys country and that’s already starting to flip same with the Texas coastline all the way to the Rio Grande Valley in the southern tip of Texas and East Texas stretching to the Louisiana border Those areas are already starting to flip
@@gandhithegreat328 I agree. I'm just saying no matter how successful the Texans can become, you can't flip the entire state. You might flip the areas surrounding that or at least the Southern part, but not the entirety.
If the Texans make an AFC Championship game in the next couple years, I'm officially switching. I was born in mid '96 so I missed all the Super Bowl fun and have only been around to watch Dallas blow every opportunity they get. It got old years ago.
Cowboys are some how the most valuable team In the entire world not only more than teams like Lakers, Yankees, they’re above Manchester United and Chelsea and Real Madrid, all of the European football clubs which are very valuable
You can go as far as Midland, TX and still find official Cowboys team stores in the malls. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. The only way the NFL expands in Texas is if the sitting commissioner puts the league over one team. A San Antonio NFL team would be pretty awesome in my book.
El Paso has died hard Cowboys fans which is funny because for the other major sports most people root for LA teams like the Dodgers and Lakers, because from the jump the cowboys made sure that they were the biggest team in the West through tv licensing. Even if we got a team nobody would root for them because of that loyalty.
Here we see Cowboys, 49ers, and Steelers. Its tough but it would attract non the less we will have game attendance but with a sea of blue, red and yellow. @LokNex915
At 873K in the metro, El Paso is only larger than Green Bay. So the statement "El Paso is larger than many NFL hosts" isn't true; just bigger than one NFL host
I've lived around Austin since 1996 and am only just now learning about this MLS stuff. I guess that makes his point about what Texans actually care about though.
The funny thing my brother lived in New part of Temple TX / Belton TX during one time and when both of the cowboys and Texans was playing at the same time and didn't get any of them lol
On 18 Oct 1992 the Oilers and Cowboys played at the same time on the same channel, which was a rarity. That week Austin newspaper ran a poll on which game should be televised locally. The Oilers ended up winning the poll causing some testy articles to be written afterwards. I can say from first hand the Oilers were followed heavily through 1993 in central TX
As a central Texan, and also as someone who recalls what was going on with the Cowboys in the early 1990s, I find this claim a little itty bit unbelievable.
As someone who is born in raised in Austin no NFL franchise could survive here. All we care about is Texas football year-round. Whether it's landing a recruit or what Quinn Ewers ate for dinner, the Longhorns dominate discussion the town is fully powered by the university and most people here already are either cowboys fans or have random teams they already have allegiance to.
Is this perhaps the same reason why it might be hard to get an NBA team in KY? I mean did the Colonels in fact take attention away from UK? Even so it would be so amazing for KY to again have a major league team...
An NFL team could absolutely survive and thrive in Austin. Which is exactly why u.t. doesn't want one there, and they do have the power to keep the NFL out.
San Antonio is a perfect city for an NFL team. You have the 5.1 million people between San Antonio and Austin. And then you have almost the entirety of South Texas that has to go through San Antonio to get to the rest of the world. You have a ridiculous amount of fans. And you don’t have to only love one team. I love both the Dallas Cowboys and the Houston Texans. I’ve lived in Austin all 53 years of my life. And I root for the Spurs and the Rockets and the Mavericks and the Astros and the Rangers. If you’re from the state of Texas, I got your back.When I was a kid growing up, I always looked at the state of Texas as like us against the other 49 states.
I remember Jerry Jones was publicly really upset when the city of Houston got the expansion team Texans in 2002, because he knew he was losing a market in Houston. The same thing would happen if cities like San Antonio or Austin got their own NFL team, they would abandon the Cowboys just like Houston did. Houston still has a decent sized Cowboys fanbase, but there was a little era there from 1996 to 2002 when Houston had no NFL team after the Oilers left, and the Cowboys and their brand was everywhere in Houston. But Houston and Dallas don't like each other, so everyone knew Houston was going to push for it's own NFL team.
Because Austin is such a young city, there actually isn’t a ton of Cowboys loyalty here. We always say no one in Austin is from Austin, but it’s a very proud city and I know we’d leap at the chance to have our own NFL team
Its amazing how marketing and hype has pumped up the cowboys into being what are today. Considering their lack of sucess in their sport for the last 30 years its just so weird why so many people buy merch for a losing team for so long. I
And these days, the Cowboys maintain their entertainment value by supplying us with endless memes. But seriously - with as many genuinely good football teams as there currently are in the NFL, Jerry's ego can stand to give up a few prime time games where we aren't subjected to his club's consistent mediocrity.
If you look at NBA fan bases, the San Antonio Spurs already have both SA and Austin, as well as all of South Texas and Mexico. There is a massive potential fan base here that's been waiting for a team.
I did not see a reference to the Dallas Texans, who became the Kansas City Chiefs 3 years later after they could not compete with the Cowboys. So, Texas did have 3 teams once (2 AFL, 1 NFL).
I remember in 2017 the day after the Astros won their first World Series, an Austin Academy store I visited looked like a hurricane went through it with all the Astros gear gone. I’m convinced people are ready to move on from the Cowboys. If the Texans can get their first ring Texas can and will flip.
yea I think so too, when the Rangers won nobody outside of DFW really cared since the Astros already did when I went to DFW the stores had both Astros and Rangers showcased and I saw mostly Astros fans there since the Rangers disappeared this season I'm sure they stayed being Astros fans.
Yeah I remember that too! Before 2017, most of Texas outside of Houston felt like Ranger country, even though the Astros made the World Series in 2005, a good 5 years before the Rangers got there in 2010 and the Astros had several legendary playoff runs in the 80s and 90s with Nolan Ryan, Mike Scott, Bagwell and Biggio. Despite all this, everywhere in Texas felt like they were supporting the Rangers. UNTIL....2017 and after.
San Antonio being the 7th largest city but only having one major league sports team when other smaller cities have multiple is beyond me. Yes i understand its based off metro are but San Antonio and Austin have a large combined metro area. Already have some good names prepared that would be the San Antonio Soldiers or San Antonio Militia since it's known as Military City USA
The Dallas Cowboys have not truly contended for a Super Bowl for over 25 years. The Houston Texans have been been to a Super Bowl, while the Houston Oilers never went to a Super Bowl. San Antonio first needs to build a stadium big enough to host a Super Bowl and a NFL franchise team. Then, the NFL needs to either move an existing franchise to San Antonio or to grant San Antonio an expansion team. Texas needs and deserves an alternative to the Cowboys and the Texans. The only thing keeping San Antonio from getting a team is a need for a stadium and Jerry Jones.
An NFL team would do amazing in Austin. Look at Austin FC, we’ve been pretty bad as far as performance, but every game is sold out and the season ticket waitlist is tens of thousands long. Most people in Austin aren’t from Austin and will attach themselves to whatever team is here. I personally hate the longhorns and would love and welcome any new pro team.
I've lived around Austin since 96 and never heard of "Austin FC" but for this video I just watched. Googling them, I guess they sell out because their stadium can only hold 20k. Meanwhile UT stadium holds 100k. Heck, the stadium in San Antonio where my high school played home football games held 30k.
At this point I wouldn't be shocked if London gets an NFL Team before Austin/San Antonio. Maybe it'll happen if both cities continue to grow the way they are and eventually merge, but right now they're a bit too far away. It's not like how close Dallas and Fort Worth are...
Yep - Jets and Giants have their "Home" stadium in NJ, which makes them NJ teams. If the Chiefs changed their name to the Delaware Chiefs but kept playing in KS, no one would be fooled, but somehow NY keeps telling itself it has 3 teams.
@@bozimmermanHell no those names suck no offense but let's not forget San Antonio is known as "military city" so why not San Antonio Soldiers San Antonio Militia
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Honestly, it's a crying shame that we don't have a 3rd Fanchise the way Dallas is playing lately. A little competition might get them to shake the status qou
Cowboys are the Maple Leafs of the NFL. Always a bridesmaid never a bride. More like an usher at a wedding. Why not have the Cowboys and Lions rotate into the prime time Thanksgiving game instead of Lions at 12:30 pm and Cowboys at 4:30 pm? Put some random teams on at 12:30 or 4:30; game 1) Vikings vs Lions, CBS 2) LA Chargers vs Chiefs, FOX 3) Packers vs Cowboys, NBC 1) Giants vs Commanders, FOX 2) Eagles vs Cowboys, CBS 3) Bengals vs Lions, NBC. For example
The Cowboys' influence even spread to Arizona, which had radio affiliates for the club pre-Cardinals. As for Texas, if the Alamodome could be either heavily renovated or replaced, I'm sure about the San Antonio DMA being a viable NFL market.
Yall have an amazing HS Football scene too, so you aren't missing much. Heck, I wonder if a pro team in SA would have to play a Friday night double header at NSS to get any attendance at all. :)
City population-wise San Antonio is the largest city without a NFL team, but metro population wise both San Diego and St Louis (teams got relocated not long ago) are larger than San Antonio
Central Texas will have to wait until the other NFL owners feel like their losing money with no third Texas team, Jerry wouldn't be able to stop it then. I'm from the Austin/San Antonio area and the Cowboys support would dry up if the area got it's own team especially since Americas team has been phoning it in for close to 30 years.
Main reason why Texas currently doesn't have a third NFL team is also because Los Angeles, CA did not have an NFL team from 1995-2016.The Houston Texans were originally intended for Los Angeles but couldn't agree on a new stadium. Then when Rams owner Stan Kroenke told Jerry Jones that he wanted to move the Rams back to Los Angeles Jones gave Kroenke his full blessing and support since Los Angeles, CA is the second largest market in the country and didn't impact Cowboys territory.
The NFL needs to stand up to the Jones family and stop letting a senile old man’s vanity project run the state, and the league for that matter, causing the league to miss out on the revenue pile that is the South Texas metro area. NFL in SATX/ATX NOW.
Cowboys are some how the most valuable team In the entire world not only more than teams like Lakers, Yankees, they’re above Manchester United and Chelsea and Real Madrid, all of the European Association football (Soccer) clubs which are very valuable
No Super Bowl in years, but they have a regular winning record. That's where Marketing and branding helps. They would have to implode to lose their niche.
El Paso should be considered, El Paso could be the true door for the NFL to break the México market, El Paso, Juárez and Las Cruces New Mexico alone are 3 mil, also a 3 hour drive from Alburquque, and it’s would really Grab the attention from northern Mexico
If San Antonio is so important to the team then why not play some games here? I think more and more every year Sa grows tired of this team as do their own fans in Dallas I 100% feel a new team here would gain support from San Antonians instantly, with the possibility of also playing games in Austin as the spurs already do
Didn’t even talk about the RGV. The metro has around 1.2million people and would also have support from the other side of the border, which would almost double the amount of support. Football isn’t as big as it should be, but we are barely even getting a college football team at UTRGV. We’ve also had the best NBA G League team in terms of most wins. Rio Grande Valley Vipers!
I live in San Antonio, and I'm a texans fan. The cowboys have become a mediocre team because they are always chokeing in the playoffs and its the same cycle. To all my San Antonioans out there, don't root for the cowboys cause there, not our team. Jerry Jones just uses us for a bigger fan base if he really loved us San Antonio people . He would bring a couple of cowboys games here to the alamodome for us to have nfl experience, but no, he's just a greedy person and don't care about the team or the fan base. San Antonio/austin really needs to have their own football team at this point. We're a big state, and yet we only have two teams. For example, Flordia has three teams.
Around 10 years ago I believe the Raiders tried to move to San Antonio but anyways the Cowboys brand is huge there still alot of Cowboys fans in Houston along with a few other teams (Saints,Titans) in Arkansas and Memphis its a 50/50 split between the Cowboys and Steelers, Northern Louisiana it's a 50/50 split between the Cowboys and Saints
0:59 new york actually has only pne new york team, despite two teams being called new york ___. New jersey has both of those teams, while buffalo is the only new york team. It drives me nuts, im sorry.
Actually, both Giants & Jets may be playing in New Jersey, but they STILL are being supported by New York CITY. if both teams want to play in NYC, then they need space for the stadium in an overcrowded city. The Jets nearly had their own stadium in 2011 and a concept for a future NYC Summer Olympics at the time but was REJECTED and gave the Olympics to London
San Antonio doesn’t have a team because there isn’t enough Fortune 500 companies in town to support it with suites and luxury boxes. San Antonio is poor.
That has zero to do do with it. It’s 100% because Jerry Jones will block any franchise moving to San Antonio or Austin. Before the Raiders chose to move to Las Vegas he toured land in between San Antonio and Austin. But no one really took that visit seriously since you need a 2/3 vote to approve a move and Jerry would have enough support to have 10 owners say no.
For example, AT&T a major fortune 500 company was founded and headquartered in San Antonio but then end up moving to Dallas to attract more educated higher skilled workers. The Dallas Forth/Worth area has a lot of fortune 500 companies enough to support the Cowboys financially and locally. AT&T stadium has the nearly the most luxury suites among all NFL stadiums.
I don't know about that -- San Antonio is rich in all the ways that matter. Greatest town on Earth, IMHO. (I live up in Williamson county, but I 'vacation' with yall whenever I can).
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I live in San Antonio and I promise you. If San Antonio were to get an NFL team of our own. 90% of current SA Cowboys fans would switch over in a heartbeat. Especially young fans such as myself who weren't even born the last time the Cowboys won a Super Bowl.
We want our own team especially one that actually wins.
Exactly!! We actually have very passionate sports fans here but we’re always over looked !! This city has shown up for every team in every sport minor or pro for decades were big enough for us to have a pro team in all major sports leagues
I’m a Texans fan and I agree, San Antonio is a great city for an NFL team and yall are pretty passionate about sports here
@@Honeywheremysupersuit not to mention the Alamodome is right there, it's like the best football stadium to not have an NFL team as a tenant
San Antonio is a Basketball city LETS GO SPURS
There is no guarantee that if you got a team that you would actually be a winning team. Just look at the last 2 teams who joined the league. The browns and Texans. Neither have even been to the AFC championship and the browns have only made the playoffs 3 times with 0 division titles
As a Houston fan a big problem with it before this year was the fact the Cowboys monopolized almost all of Texas for the game to be aired.
I lived 20 minutes South West of Houston area and was restricted from watching the Texans. Only allowed to watch Dallas. I wasn’t allowed to watch it outside of RedZone without a VPN.
I moved 2 hours down the coast from Houston and no surprise still couldn’t watch the closest team, Houston.
It wasn’t until this 2024 year that I was able to watch the Texans (likely because of the interest they got last year going further than the cowboys in the playoffs). This always frustrated me because the Texans don’t even play at the same time as the Cowboys.
If Texas wants a third team they need to break up Dallas’s monopoly over the regions and streaming. At least allow the early games to be watched when Dallas isn’t playing.
To be fair on San Antonio’s part, When the AFL and XFL put their respective teams in the Alamodome, San Antonio fans consistently sold out the stadium more than any other team. So it’s not like the possibility of wanting football in the area is completely ridiculous.
AFL yes XFL not so much but it is getting better
You guys mean AAF, not AFL. I was at the Commanders' first game in 2019, it was very well attended. The team did well and the fans kept coming. Then it all imploded.
The Brahmas arent a bad team but they havent dominated like St Louis or Birmingham. The 2024 attendance was well below St. Louis (almost 23000 fewer on avg) and even below Washington DC.
If the UFL can do a better job marketing in 2025 the numbers might come up, but without developing into a dominant team, attendance in San Antonio will still pale next to the Battlehawks
@@fletchbg my apologies thanks for correcting me
St. Louis is by far the XFL city with the most fans. They fill out an NFL stadium and once had an NFL team and got screwed by their owner who got sued by the city and lost.
A San Antonio - Austin NFL team would be a home run
*Touchdown
How?
true, I agree.
San Antonio definitely seems to be the perfect city for Texas’ third NFL team
Personally San Antonio should get a team. I mean the Alamodome was literally built to bring an NFL team, and 30 years later they still dont have one
Not enough corporate money in San Antonio to support an NFL team
@@Damianoutlaw Then why build an NFL caliber stadium to begin with
@@TimberWolfer63 have you ever been to the Alamo dome? It's not an NFL caliber stadium at all.
@@Damianoutlaw Well it was NFL caliber in the 90s
@@Damianoutlawyou will also get fans from Austin
As someone from Houston who now lives in between Austin and San Antonio, it’s crazy too see how everyone’s a Cowboys fan and close to no Texans fans. It’s literally a 2:30 drive I take dozens of times a year but the fan base is strong.
Also north Austin where Austin FC play in everything in between SA and Austin like New Braunfels, Kyle and Buda are some of the fastest growing areas in the US and have been.
Being a Texans fan is like being a Clippers fan
It’s honestly the reverse logic of Astros-Rangers. Most Texans lean towards the Astros; especially south of Waco. Whereas Ranger fans mainly hail from here in DFW and the rest of North Texas.
@@scoringbox2176plenty of rangers fans in East Texas and west Texas
@@scoringbox2176 yep, I noticed that as well.
My parents are Cowboys fan and I became one to. I won’t give up on the Cowboys because I’m a 🤡
During Hurricane Katrina, the Saints temporarily played in San Antonio, they almost got an NFL franchise before LA but I realized Jones wouldn’t let this happen
Nope.
My Staff Sergeant in the Marines was from San Antonio and plastered all over his office were Spurs and Cowboys merch in equal amounts. I'm not sure a new team could get San Antonio fans to abandon the Cowboys at this point.
@@fighterck6241That’s definitely true most people in San Antonio are unfortunately Cowboy fans.
It honestly makes me upset that we won’t get an NFL team because some people in my hometown are nostalgic for a mediocre team that never won in my lifetime (I’m about to be 30).
Stop all these lies. SA was demographics changed drastically. It changed to tourists town. It could support a team like Las Vegas. They didn't want to blah blah yada yada. Certain demographics.
@@seananthony7494really? I’ve seen more Texans fans than cowboys during my visit in San Antonio
When people wonder why the Texans hate the Cowboys, this is the reason.
It's not because of its winning ways. It's marketing.
well Texans can shut up, Cowboys have won 5, Texans have never been to a super bowl, Cowboys have nothing to prove to the jealous Texans.
@redmanr5522, you guys haven't won a super bowl since 1996
@@redmanr5522 and who won a playoff game this year not the cowboy
@@redmanr5522 the Cowboys literally have less playoff wins since the Texans even came into existence. Your franchise has been poverty for decades, whereas the Texans have actually faced the struggles of being an expansion team. Not to mention y'all just extended Dak through 2028.
fun fact, NFL wanted to give “Americas Team” label to the Steelers originally. The Rooney Family declined because they said something along the lines of “We’re not Americas team, we’re Pittsburghs Team”
They gave it to Cowboys, and it was not the nfl, it was an announcer or sportswriter/caster because they had the largest fanbase and the nickname caught on.
Lies! Just like The Rooney rule....Only good out of there was AB. He went crazy after all those dirty hits on a dirty team.
Lies if you don’t know, don’t spew lies
Urban legend BS made up by jelly Squeelers fans.
Bob Ryan, an NFL Films producer, coined the phrase "America's Team" for the Dallas Cowboys in 1978. Ryan came up with the phrase while editing the Cowboys' 1978 season highlight film. He noticed that the Cowboys were popular with fans everywhere they played, and that they were always featured on national television. Not offered to Pittsburgh
New York only has one NFL team, the Bills. The Giants and Jets both play in Jersey. And Maryland has two teams, with the Commanders playing in Landover.
Too bad playing in and being based out of aren’t the same. If so explain the San Francisco 49ers playing every “home” game in Santa Clara. Or the Dallas cowboys. Should be the Arlington cowboys.
@@braydenwilliams4478 Yeah the Niners shouldn't have the right to call themselves 'San Francisco' if they play 43 miles away.
No one consider the Giants or Jets NEW JERSEY teams dude, wtf. Who cares if the stadium is located slightly further away from the city they're MEANT to represent?
Most people conceptualize cities (and literally categorize them) as bigger than just the official city limits.
@@dunnowy123 Tony Soprano considers the Giants as representing Jersey
There close enough to were New York fans in the City itself are Jetts and Giants fans
The Dallas Cowboys are the most popular team in the southern United States as well as being the most popular team in San Antonio, Austin, OKC , Tulsa, Little Rock, Memphis, Shreveport and Albuquerque.
North Louisiana isn’t like the South part of the state. There aren’t many Cajuns up there is basically just a continuation of East Texas.
So that’s also why they root for the Cowboys
#makenorthLousianaCajun
UT is part of reason Austin FC doesn’t play in downtown Austin. They don’t even have a men’s soccer team. A team won’t be in Austin bc UT is too scared of losing fans to a pro team. San Antonio will work if they replace the Alamodome.
I have a colleague who is born and raised in Houston but grew up a Cowboys fan because the Oilers left when he was young. By the time the Texans arrived he was already deep rooted as a Dallas fan.
In Texas, Houston Texans are mostly popular in the Houston region. Pretty much everywhere else I travel in Texas, it's Cowboys country.
For three years, Dallas had TWO professional football teams. From 1960-1962 there were the Dallas Texans. In 1963, they moved to Kansas City and became the Chiefs.
I am a lifelong San Antonio resident. If the NFL approved a new team and built a stadium in the area near San Marcos, Texas, it would be a great move. It is well known that Austin and SA have grown by leaps and bounds in the last decade, but the San Marcos/Kyle/Buda region has seen a huge influx of growth. Building a stadium here would be a no-brainer and would allow the franchise to have a huge fanbase in both cities.
1:25 is the reason Texas doesn’t have more nfl teams.
As a Houstonian, who visits San Antonio very often, I know two things that San Antonio loves, the Spurs and the Cowboys.
Even growing up in Houston, felt like half the kids in school were Cowboys fans vs Texans. Plus, the prime time slot is so key. Texans just played on SNF for the first time since 2019. How many times have the Cowboys played on SNF since then?
More Texans SNF to come 🙏
The Oilers will always be the real hometown team of Houston. The Texans are like a stepdad to anyone in Houston born before 1991.
If C.J. Stroud can win a couple Super Bowls in the next 5 years, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Texans flip the state.
The love of CJ coupled with the hatred of Jerry could really make that happen.....at least to some degree.
That would be tough. Regardless if the Texans win six Super Bowls (hopefully), it’s hard to overtake what Jerry Jones did for the Cowboys to make them the brand they are.
@@KWCline91I don’t think they could flop the whole state, like they won’t take San Antonio and Austin, but the rural areas right outside of Houston is usually cowboys country and that’s already starting to flip same with the Texas coastline all the way to the Rio Grande Valley in the southern tip of Texas and East Texas stretching to the Louisiana border
Those areas are already starting to flip
@@gandhithegreat328 I agree. I'm just saying no matter how successful the Texans can become, you can't flip the entire state. You might flip the areas surrounding that or at least the Southern part, but not the entirety.
If the Texans make an AFC Championship game in the next couple years, I'm officially switching. I was born in mid '96 so I missed all the Super Bowl fun and have only been around to watch Dallas blow every opportunity they get. It got old years ago.
Minor pedantic correction: the city associated with the Buccaneers is Tampa, not "Tampa Bay."
Nobody likes their home town misrepresented.
One name Jerry Jones. Im sure he considers the Austin San Antonio area Cowboys territory.
That's because the are, he doesn't want to lose the Hispanic fanbase either
2 things need to happen for Texas to get a 3rd team
- Texans becoming a Dynasty
- Jerry selling the cowboys
Cowboys are some how the most valuable team
In the entire world not only more than teams like Lakers, Yankees, they’re above Manchester United and Chelsea and Real Madrid, all of the European football clubs which are very valuable
American teams are more valuable than European because European dont have an salary cap making sure the teams are guarenteed to make huge profits.
Neither does MLB, and the leagues profits are among the highest in the world tied with NBA and slightly above Englands Premier League
As someone who lived in San Antonio for nearly a decade there are just as many (if not more) Texans fans than Cowboys fans here.
You can go as far as Midland, TX and still find official Cowboys team stores in the malls. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. The only way the NFL expands in Texas is if the sitting commissioner puts the league over one team. A San Antonio NFL team would be pretty awesome in my book.
Very interesting but really left out El Paso, which is a bigger metro than many NFL hosts. You’re right about UT being why Austin only has MLS.
I like your theory but El Paso is soooo isolated it's in the middle of nowhere
El Paso has died hard Cowboys fans which is funny because for the other major sports most people root for LA teams like the Dodgers and Lakers, because from the jump the cowboys made sure that they were the biggest team in the West through tv licensing. Even if we got a team nobody would root for them because of that loyalty.
Here we see Cowboys, 49ers, and Steelers. Its tough but it would attract non the less we will have game attendance but with a sea of blue, red and yellow. @LokNex915
At 873K in the metro, El Paso is only larger than Green Bay. So the statement "El Paso is larger than many NFL hosts" isn't true; just bigger than one NFL host
I've lived around Austin since 1996 and am only just now learning about this MLS stuff. I guess that makes his point about what Texans actually care about though.
The funny thing my brother lived in New part of Temple TX / Belton TX during one time and when both of the cowboys and Texans was playing at the same time and didn't get any of them lol
New York only has 1 team, the Bills. The Jets and Giants play in New Jersey.
So? The Jets and Giants represent the NYC metro area, so it counts. New York has 3 NFL teams.
@@Gage_Brumleyjust because east Rutherford is miles from the ny state line doesn’t mean they play in New York.
So everyone in the stands are from Jersey?
Might be true, but majority of their fan bases are from NYC, so yes NY had 3 NFL teams
@@Gage_Brumley They play in New Jersey.
On 18 Oct 1992 the Oilers and Cowboys played at the same time on the same channel, which was a rarity. That week Austin newspaper ran a poll on which game should be televised locally.
The Oilers ended up winning the poll causing some testy articles to be written afterwards. I can say from first hand the Oilers were followed heavily through 1993 in central TX
As a central Texan, and also as someone who recalls what was going on with the Cowboys in the early 1990s, I find this claim a little itty bit unbelievable.
As someone who is born in raised in Austin no NFL franchise could survive here. All we care about is Texas football year-round. Whether it's landing a recruit or what Quinn Ewers ate for dinner, the Longhorns dominate discussion the town is fully powered by the university and most people here already are either cowboys fans or have random teams they already have allegiance to.
Is this perhaps the same reason why it might be hard to get an NBA team in KY? I mean did the Colonels in fact take attention away from UK? Even so it would be so amazing for KY to again have a major league team...
Do you think guys could support an MLB team?
@@great-one0389 I meant an NBA team. Cincinnati has the LEX/LOU area well covered with the Reds/Bengals as far as MLB/NFL goes.
@@JohnSmith-zw8vp I was trying ask OP about Austin getting an MLB team
An NFL team could absolutely survive and thrive in Austin. Which is exactly why u.t. doesn't want one there, and they do have the power to keep the NFL out.
San Antonio is a perfect city for an NFL team. You have the 5.1 million people between San Antonio and Austin. And then you have almost the entirety of South Texas that has to go through San Antonio to get to the rest of the world. You have a ridiculous amount of fans. And you don’t have to only love one team. I love both the Dallas Cowboys and the Houston Texans. I’ve lived in Austin all 53 years of my life. And I root for the Spurs and the Rockets and the Mavericks and the Astros and the Rangers. If you’re from the state of Texas, I got your back.When I was a kid growing up, I always looked at the state of Texas as like us against the other 49 states.
Once Jerry Jones dies, I'm sure we'll see a team placed in San Antonio not too long after.
As a Cowboys fan now is the perfect time to add a 3rd team. Cowboyare garbage.
And Texans are on their way to winning it all at some point soon. If you need another team to root for, you don't have to look far.
I HATE JERRY 😭😭😭
Well dis waz *WELL TIMED* afta dat radio interview
I remember Jerry Jones was publicly really upset when the city of Houston got the expansion team Texans in 2002, because he knew he was losing a market in Houston. The same thing would happen if cities like San Antonio or Austin got their own NFL team, they would abandon the Cowboys just like Houston did. Houston still has a decent sized Cowboys fanbase, but there was a little era there from 1996 to 2002 when Houston had no NFL team after the Oilers left, and the Cowboys and their brand was everywhere in Houston. But Houston and Dallas don't like each other, so everyone knew Houston was going to push for it's own NFL team.
Because Austin is such a young city, there actually isn’t a ton of Cowboys loyalty here. We always say no one in Austin is from Austin, but it’s a very proud city and I know we’d leap at the chance to have our own NFL team
Its amazing how marketing and hype has pumped up the cowboys into being what are today.
Considering their lack of sucess in their sport for the last 30 years its just so weird why so many people buy merch for a losing team for so long.
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And these days, the Cowboys maintain their entertainment value by supplying us with endless memes.
But seriously - with as many genuinely good football teams as there currently are in the NFL, Jerry's ego can stand to give up a few prime time games where we aren't subjected to his club's consistent mediocrity.
As someone who's lived in Houston all my life I still think S.A. could/Should get one. Once Jerry passes their chances will be higher that they will.
The San Antonio "Rebels" football team needs to happen.
I kinda like "Missions" or "Armadillos", but yea, needs to happen.
If you look at NBA fan bases, the San Antonio Spurs already have both SA and Austin, as well as all of South Texas and Mexico. There is a massive potential fan base here that's been waiting for a team.
I did not see a reference to the Dallas Texans, who became the Kansas City Chiefs 3 years later after they could not compete with the Cowboys. So, Texas did have 3 teams once (2 AFL, 1 NFL).
I remember in 2017 the day after the Astros won their first World Series, an Austin Academy store I visited looked like a hurricane went through it with all the Astros gear gone. I’m convinced people are ready to move on from the Cowboys. If the Texans can get their first ring Texas can and will flip.
yea I think so too, when the Rangers won nobody outside of DFW really cared since the Astros already did when I went to DFW the stores had both Astros and Rangers showcased and I saw mostly Astros fans there since the Rangers disappeared this season I'm sure they stayed being Astros fans.
Yeah I remember that too! Before 2017, most of Texas outside of Houston felt like Ranger country, even though the Astros made the World Series in 2005, a good 5 years before the Rangers got there in 2010 and the Astros had several legendary playoff runs in the 80s and 90s with Nolan Ryan, Mike Scott, Bagwell and Biggio. Despite all this, everywhere in Texas felt like they were supporting the Rangers. UNTIL....2017 and after.
I always rooted for the Astros growing up because they were a NL team with no DH. Since I've been betrayed by MLB, I'm ready for new options there.
Alamodome was built without luxury suites. That's another huge reason they haven't landed an NFL team.
San Antonio being the 7th largest city but only having one major league sports team when other smaller cities have multiple is beyond me. Yes i understand its based off metro are but San Antonio and Austin have a large combined metro area. Already have some good names prepared that would be the San Antonio Soldiers or San Antonio Militia since it's known as Military City USA
The Dallas Cowboys have not truly contended for a Super Bowl for over 25 years. The Houston Texans have been been to a Super Bowl, while the Houston Oilers never went to a Super Bowl.
San Antonio first needs to build a stadium big enough to host a Super Bowl and a NFL franchise team.
Then, the NFL needs to either move an existing franchise to San Antonio or to grant San Antonio an expansion team.
Texas needs and deserves an alternative to the Cowboys and the Texans.
The only thing keeping San Antonio from getting a team is a need for a stadium and Jerry Jones.
Your map/graphic is wrong! Maryland has TWO teams!!!
I had to google it. Right you are! The Commanders are as much a DC team as the Jets and Giants are NY teams.
When Jerry Jones dies that will open up the opportunity for San Antonio to finally get a team
He's 82 so it won't be too much longer.
@@jaylucien669That doesn't mean anything, Jerry won't die anytime soon, and he's gonna keep the cowboys until he dies
An NFL team would do amazing in Austin. Look at Austin FC, we’ve been pretty bad as far as performance, but every game is sold out and the season ticket waitlist is tens of thousands long. Most people in Austin aren’t from Austin and will attach themselves to whatever team is here. I personally hate the longhorns and would love and welcome any new pro team.
I've lived around Austin since 96 and never heard of "Austin FC" but for this video I just watched. Googling them, I guess they sell out because their stadium can only hold 20k.
Meanwhile UT stadium holds 100k. Heck, the stadium in San Antonio where my high school played home football games held 30k.
At this point I wouldn't be shocked if London gets an NFL Team before Austin/San Antonio.
Maybe it'll happen if both cities continue to grow the way they are and eventually merge, but right now they're a bit too far away. It's not like how close Dallas and Fort Worth are...
Europe needs a league for sure. I just learned 5 minutes ago that actual adults play Soccer in Austin, so yall definitely need to step up.
The stadium maps are a really cool idea!! I’m definitely ganna get one each time I visit a new one!!!
There's an error on your map: New York only has 1 team. New Jersey has 2
Yep - Jets and Giants have their "Home" stadium in NJ, which makes them NJ teams. If the Chiefs changed their name to the Delaware Chiefs but kept playing in KS, no one would be fooled, but somehow NY keeps telling itself it has 3 teams.
I'm sorry, but Football isn't King in Texas. It's a state religion.
San Antonio would be perfect for another team, but San Antonio has a lot of options for names and I couldn't even start to name a few...
@@MarkSanchez-eq5wj SAN ANTONIO OUTLAWS
@@keeganbrown9967Isn’t that a kid league team in SA?
How about Spurs to match the NBA team, or the Missions? San Antonio Ballepenos? Horney Toads? Armadillos? So many possibilities...
@@bozimmermanHell no those names suck no offense but let's not forget San Antonio is known as "military city" so why not San Antonio Soldiers San Antonio Militia
@@July9326 NFL rules state that teams nicknames must be plural and end with the letter 's'
Love all the videos keep it up. Wanna see one on every team and every sport haha
Extremely disappointing to see you taking a Betterhelp sponsorship deal.
They're a scammy company that employs underqualified therapists and takes people's money when they actually need help.
Shame on you.
Hey man a checks a check
Honestly, it's a crying shame that we don't have a 3rd Fanchise the way Dallas is playing lately. A little competition might get them to shake the status qou
As a Houston Texans fan it’s like being a Clippers fan in LA being surrounded by Lakers fans. Houston is predominantly Cowboys fans.
Not really and if any team has that slot its the Saints. Houston hates anything affiliated with that cowtown.
Good thing the Texans/ oilers play in a different conference unlike the lakers/ clippers situation
Not really. Honestly, there are probably more Saints fans in Houston than Cowboy fans. Houston hates anything associated with Dallas.
I'm call BS on this... Houston doesn't associate with anything Dallas
Lol what ? Idk about that. For every cowboys fan in Houston I see, there are 50 Texans fans
do you have any ideawhen you might start shipping the stadium postrs to the uk?
San Antonio will eventually get a team. The Raiders or The Chargers should have gone there.
I’ve always thought for YEARS that there should be an NFL team in Austin!
Probably not
.. it's all University of Texas that they care about there
Having an NFL team in a college town is a no go for them
Folks in Austin care about college sports more than professional sports
Cowboys are the Maple Leafs of the NFL. Always a bridesmaid never a bride. More like an usher at a wedding. Why not have the Cowboys and Lions rotate into the prime time Thanksgiving game instead of Lions at 12:30 pm and Cowboys at 4:30 pm? Put some random teams on at 12:30 or 4:30; game 1) Vikings vs Lions, CBS 2) LA Chargers vs Chiefs, FOX 3) Packers vs Cowboys, NBC
1) Giants vs Commanders, FOX 2) Eagles vs Cowboys, CBS 3) Bengals vs Lions, NBC. For example
The Cowboys' influence even spread to Arizona, which had radio affiliates for the club pre-Cardinals. As for Texas, if the Alamodome could be either heavily renovated or replaced, I'm sure about the San Antonio DMA being a viable NFL market.
I'm sure they'll come back to being Cowboy fans when the Cardinals move to their 83rd city or whatever.
@@bozimmermanThe Cards are not going anywhere in the foreseeable future.
Allen is in the dfw it’s in a major city
If San Antonio had an NFL team I would instantly go from Cowboys to any San Antonio team, thats my hometown and follow the spurs religiously
Yall have an amazing HS Football scene too, so you aren't missing much. Heck, I wonder if a pro team in SA would have to play a Friday night double header at NSS to get any attendance at all. :)
Please do one on why Fort Worth doesn’t have a team professional sports team and how much Fort Worth NEED a team
Forth worth has an NFL team they just still called Dallas cowboys.
You can argue that Ft Worth shares the Cowboys with Dallas (Arlington TX being between both cities)
City population-wise San Antonio is the largest city without a NFL team, but metro population wise both San Diego and St Louis (teams got relocated not long ago) are larger than San Antonio
Props for including Uncle Brent audio!
Central Texas will have to wait until the other NFL owners feel like their losing money with no third Texas team, Jerry wouldn't be able to stop it then. I'm from the Austin/San Antonio area and the Cowboys support would dry up if the area got it's own team especially since Americas team has been phoning it in for close to 30 years.
Give San Antonio a team while Jerry jones is still around.
Yes bro yessss
In their heyday, the Cowboys were the dominant team not just in Texas, but Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arkansas, Arizona and Nevada. Truly a regional team.
Main reason why Texas currently doesn't have a third NFL team is also because Los Angeles, CA did not have an NFL team from 1995-2016.The Houston Texans were originally intended for Los Angeles but couldn't agree on a new stadium. Then when Rams owner Stan Kroenke told Jerry Jones that he wanted to move the Rams back to Los Angeles Jones gave Kroenke his full blessing and support since Los Angeles, CA is the second largest market in the country and didn't impact Cowboys territory.
Yeah, Jerry will kill any deal outside of Houston as long as he lives.
He old. It won’t be long
There are 32 teams in the NFL. If you added a third team in Texas, that would make a very uneven 33. It's as simple as that.
Just move a team there
Or add two.
Move the Chargers or Commanders there. The former has zero fanbase in their current city and the latter is in desparate need of a nicer stadium.
Then add two expansion teams, now you have an even 34 team
@@Gage_BrumleyThe Commanders won’t happen, they have since got a new owner and he’s already in works of getting a new stadium deal.
New York technically has 1.
The NFL needs to stand up to the Jones family and stop letting a senile old man’s vanity project run the state, and the league for that matter, causing the league to miss out on the revenue pile that is the South Texas metro area. NFL in SATX/ATX NOW.
San Antonio and Austin are not the same metro area or television market.
It took over 13 minutes to say "Jerry Jones"
3rdly, there is plans to have a 2nd NFL team in the Metroplex so San Antonio or Austin can support an NFL Franchise
I mean if they either put a team in austin or san antonio they would most likely support each other
San Antonio looked into having an NFL team but then they found out Dallas wanted one too
Cowboys are some how the most valuable team
In the entire world not only more than teams like Lakers, Yankees, they’re above Manchester United and Chelsea and Real Madrid, all of the European Association football (Soccer) clubs which are very valuable
Some how? He did he a decent job in this video explaining just how that it.
@@jaylucien669 But he missed the most important reason: It's God's favorite sports club.
As Austin grows, it may get a team one day.
No Super Bowl in years, but they have a regular winning record. That's where Marketing and branding helps. They would have to implode to lose their niche.
El Paso should be considered, El Paso could be the true door for the NFL to break the México market, El Paso, Juárez and Las Cruces New Mexico alone are 3 mil, also a 3 hour drive from Alburquque, and it’s would really Grab the attention from northern Mexico
"For all intents and purposes New York having three teams in the state" LOL😅
If San Antonio is so important to the team then why not play some games here? I think more and more every year Sa grows tired of this team as do their own fans in Dallas I 100% feel a new team here would gain support from San Antonians instantly, with the possibility of also playing games in Austin as the spurs already do
the Cowboys only see San Antonio as people that can buy Cowboys merch and get sucked in to the Cowboys mediocrity.
Didn’t even talk about the RGV. The metro has around 1.2million people and would also have support from the other side of the border, which would almost double the amount of support. Football isn’t as big as it should be, but we are barely even getting a college football team at UTRGV. We’ve also had the best NBA G League team in terms of most wins. Rio Grande Valley Vipers!
I live in San Antonio, and I'm a texans fan. The cowboys have become a mediocre team because they are always chokeing in the playoffs and its the same cycle. To all my San Antonioans out there, don't root for the cowboys cause there, not our team. Jerry Jones just uses us for a bigger fan base if he really loved us San Antonio people . He would bring a couple of cowboys games here to the alamodome for us to have nfl experience, but no, he's just a greedy person and don't care about the team or the fan base. San Antonio/austin really needs to have their own football team at this point. We're a big state, and yet we only have two teams. For example, Flordia has three teams.
Raelly? trying to throw things at me saying I'm a fair weather fan
Around 10 years ago I believe the Raiders tried to move to San Antonio but anyways the Cowboys brand is huge there still alot of Cowboys fans in Houston along with a few other teams (Saints,Titans) in Arkansas and Memphis its a 50/50 split between the Cowboys and Steelers, Northern Louisiana it's a 50/50 split between the Cowboys and Saints
New Orleans = New Orlins, you're welcome.
I'd like san Antonio and Austin to make a team together placed right in the middle because they aren't really that far apart
It'd be interesting though if San Antonio got a team so that there was one on each corner of the Texas Triangle.
Saying that "Albuquerque and Little Rock are large enough to support a NFL team" is quite a stretch...Maybe Oklahoma City or Tulsa...
What would u even call a Austin/San Antonio franchise??
why can’t El Paso have anything😭
I love yall out there, but you need to hit at least 2-3 million in the metro area to catch the NFL's eye.
0:59 new york actually has only pne new york team, despite two teams being called new york ___. New jersey has both of those teams, while buffalo is the only new york team. It drives me nuts, im sorry.
Actually, both Giants & Jets may be playing in New Jersey, but they STILL are being supported by New York CITY.
if both teams want to play in NYC, then they need space for the stadium in an overcrowded city. The Jets nearly had their own stadium in 2011 and a concept for a future NYC Summer Olympics at the time but was REJECTED and gave the Olympics to London
@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena interesting. But it still applies. It's a grey area ig.
San Antonio doesn’t have a team because there isn’t enough Fortune 500 companies in town to support it with suites and luxury boxes. San Antonio is poor.
That has zero to do do with it. It’s 100% because Jerry Jones will block any franchise moving to San Antonio or Austin.
Before the Raiders chose to move to Las Vegas he toured land in between San Antonio and Austin. But no one really took that visit seriously since you need a 2/3 vote to approve a move and Jerry would have enough support to have 10 owners say no.
For example, AT&T a major fortune 500 company was founded and headquartered in San Antonio but then end up moving to Dallas to attract more educated higher skilled workers. The Dallas Forth/Worth area has a lot of fortune 500 companies enough to support the Cowboys financially and locally. AT&T stadium has the nearly the most luxury suites among all NFL stadiums.
I don't know about that -- San Antonio is rich in all the ways that matter. Greatest town on Earth, IMHO. (I live up in Williamson county, but I 'vacation' with yall whenever I can).