Olly straps his 1.6L turbodiesel to the dyno for a thourough thrashing & breaksdown what it all means & where to go from it! Look how far we've come. Cheers :)
What a bad ass 1.6, now remember you were on a wheel H.P. dyno. I spent 38 years rebuilding 10L to 16L caterpillar truck engines and we would dyno all are rebuilds on a wheel H.P. dyno and a 550 H.P. factory rated at the crankshaft would get around 460 H.P. to the ground depending on drive train and other parasitic loads so i wood guess that your beast is putting out around 220 H.P. to maybe as much as 240 H.P. at the crankshaft!!!! Ya it's a beast.
😂😂😂 yes with any luck I will replace that bedraggled device with a fresh stage 3 when I put the new motor in. 🤔 I was actually kind of worried we would pop it while testing but it held its shit together!
That’s crazy that this thing is pushing that much power. If you were going to go with a non variable turbo what size would you recommend? Been looking at turning my n/a 1.6 just don’t know what to go with.
Depends how much fuel you are going to run. I would start with what pump head you're going to use (if stock then 9mm) and work back from there. The gt2052 can be good but it'll take most of what a 9mm pump can do. I have a "make some power" video you should check out where I get into it more
I told you man 1.6 can make 200bhp all you need is a big pump, proper turbo and proper settings ! Congratulations mate 🎉🎉 Maybe for your elevation you need a bigger compressor ? 56mm ? I’m living almost at see level idk. But turbine is fine for sure !
on third try when started to smoke black i knew that it will get results xD good job, here in europe noone work on 1.6 cause of head issue, nice job, but if you put bigger turbo like he221w or something...rods will try to fly around the workshop and head try to get to the moon, surrely need to go 1.9 to get more reliable result ;)
@@OliverFetter the code is at the front of the block in the top right hand corner on a flat surface, It can be quite tricky to see it, I had to clean the surface with a wire brush to see it on mine
@ryancurry2911 It's totally possible. Oil squirters are ideal, but not an absolute necessity. If you're looking to boost at moderate levels you will have zero worries. An EGT guage will do the lions share of keeping you out of trouble.
16:00 turbo helps you a lot' if like you said the engine has wear and lower than it should compression. Still pretty impressive from that tiny combustion chamber. Tbh kinda hard to believe that head gasket could hold that pressure 😂 The alh with the bigger combustion chamber stroke and compression would make A LOT more if the fuel is sufficient enough even at lower boost. Impressive results, good job 👍
@OliverFetter keep in mind that direct injection timing is crucial for the engine's/piston cone health. *Had a few engines with bad injection timing due to camshaft tweak, (on the 1.9 pd engines if you shift the camshaft it also changes the time it pushes the injector/pump, it didn't fail but the pistons had significantly more wear on the 5 nozzle spots the injector was shooting) at my understanding, the cone head of the piston is hardened to support that high fuel combustion impact and if the ignition is off you shift the impact on a weaker spot of the piston and its starting to remove material. Lower compression over time, engine had slow soft smoky start and rough low rpm misfiring (unburned fuel) From ear experience i can tell if these engines have low compression just from cranking them up and especially cold ( they don't jump at each piston compression as it should almost like a petrol engine and the same when you shut them off with open intake shutoff valve the engine doesn't kick back and it slowly stops) Their obvious indication is rly low performance before the turbo boost. like snail slow performance, engine feels like its 40hp before the 1900rpm range
@ChrisGR93_TxS super interesting!! Thank you for sharing. Is there a timing position you've landed on for your own that you're satisfied with (in deg BTDC)?
@ChrisGR93_TxS interesting you mention you can "just tell" with engine health, that's how it is with my 1.6. It used to fire on the first starter crank & now it chugs along for a few seconds before catching 😮💨 replacing it asap!
@OliverFetter its been a long time since i measured a alh asv engine and that's my main concern about your configuration. i never measured the start up injection timing but it idles around 1-1,3 1,5 btdc The issue comes with the massive atdc injection timing that has a lot of variables and its pretty close to 20º at its max peak performance. Some ppl with pd 1.9 engines with 550cc injectors push 180hp at 30º+ but i don't think its safe. (If you care about economy and engine health)
Fucking bad ass! Do you live in / near the Denver metro? Im looking into buying a 82 Rabbit truck 1.6l love your videos and wouldnt mind having someone in the area to possibly help & talk some things over about my possible build. Congrats on the build🤙🏽
A stock 1.6 gtd makes 70hp with a turbo, how can this make 72 "na" with low compression?? i would love to see a 200hp 1.6 but this results left me sceptical
You raise an interesting point ~one I didn't ponder myself yet~. A couple thoughts- 1) it's not a stock 1.6 set up whatsoever... Better flowing everything, way, way, way more fuel over anything that rolled out the factory, oversized turbo that was still producing 5 psi of boost (not quite na). Honestly all these things together seem nearly enough. 2) The numbers I went over (as mentioned) are corrected numbers, meaning they are comparable to sea level driving, ideal day, etc. The uncorrected is more like 55hp or something in that neighborhood (at Denver altitude). 3) Of course there's no way to share a Dyno test without making a big deal of the numbers, but I think it's really important to remember that it's not necessarily a good way to compute a be all end all HP number (the dyno industry will say differently), but it is an extremely good way to compare modifications & see baselines while eliminating other conditions. Ie a quarter mile race is a much better test of the speed of your car but Dyno tests between different modifications is a better way to see slight differences...and at the end of the day that's what I'm here for 💁 I'm gonna test the snot out of a bunch of different variables now that we have a baseline to compare to. Finally... To accurately compare this car & numbers to a GTD base 70hp... Ya need to put a stock GTD on a Dynojet Dyno and then we'll have an apples to apples comparison to talk about 👍👍👍 I appreciate the thoughtfulness
Fun,fun fun! That is why I like these in Jeeps😊
I can see that! 👍
Flat out awesome. You the man, Oliver!
Thank ya!! Appreciate the constant support 🙏
So badass man!!! Keep the videos coming!! 1.6 mafia!!
💪💪💪
I’ve been waiting for this!!!
Me too!!
Congrats man that is pretty sweet!
Thanks a bunch! 🙏
🎉well done man, been an avid follower from the UK, makes me want to build a monster 1.6 too 😅
You should do it 😁
What a bad ass 1.6, now remember you were on a wheel H.P. dyno. I spent 38 years rebuilding 10L to 16L caterpillar truck engines and we would dyno all are rebuilds on a wheel H.P. dyno and a 550 H.P. factory rated at the crankshaft would get around 460 H.P. to the ground depending on drive train and other parasitic loads so i wood guess that your beast is putting out around 220 H.P. to maybe as much as 240 H.P. at the crankshaft!!!! Ya it's a beast.
Thank you 💪💪 appreciate the kind words & interesting experience!
Congrats man 🎉
Thanks!
Insane!
Whata beast bruz! Must feel rewarding after all the hard work. The sloppy crutch on it gives it superconducting style frictionless operation 😂
😂😂😂 yes with any luck I will replace that bedraggled device with a fresh stage 3 when I put the new motor in. 🤔 I was actually kind of worried we would pop it while testing but it held its shit together!
@OliverFetter loool I didn't mean Clutch, but that to 🤣😘
@@Blackbeardxx9 cheeky 😆
Congrats man, good work 👍
Thanks! 👍
You have the world fastest 1.6 td
🤨🤨🤨 possible
You are crazy man!! Great job. Congratulations from Greece.
The egt sensor is before the turbo or after?
Before.
X2
That’s crazy that this thing is pushing that much power. If you were going to go with a non variable turbo what size would you recommend? Been looking at turning my n/a 1.6 just don’t know what to go with.
Depends how much fuel you are going to run. I would start with what pump head you're going to use (if stock then 9mm) and work back from there. The gt2052 can be good but it'll take most of what a 9mm pump can do. I have a "make some power" video you should check out where I get into it more
@ Awesome thanks man. I plan on upgrading to an 11mm pump head but not right away.
I told you man 1.6 can make 200bhp all you need is a big pump, proper turbo and proper settings !
Congratulations mate 🎉🎉
Maybe for your elevation you need a bigger compressor ? 56mm ? I’m living almost at see level idk. But turbine is fine for sure !
Right on sir 💪💪 were doing the best we can 🤔
on third try when started to smoke black i knew that it will get results xD good job, here in europe noone work on 1.6 cause of head issue, nice job, but if you put bigger turbo like he221w or something...rods will try to fly around the workshop and head try to get to the moon, surrely need to go 1.9 to get more reliable result ;)
Arp hardware and built engine?
😆😆 thanks I appreciate it. Yeah head studs & beefy rods certainly help keep it together it's not just stock parts in there 👍
Will be moving to a 1.9l soon
best 1.6td in the world its ripping
Which engine is this? I have 3 1.6’s here, I have SB, JR and JP. I’m just wondering if I can stick a turbo on the N/A JP
Where do you look for that casting code?
This block in particular is an old TD, it has a mechanical head but oil squirters 👍
@@OliverFetter the code is at the front of the block in the top right hand corner on a flat surface, It can be quite tricky to see it, I had to clean the surface with a wire brush to see it on mine
@@OliverFetter yeah I just thought you were using an n/a block and I wondered if it was possible to convert to td without oil squirters
@ryancurry2911 It's totally possible. Oil squirters are ideal, but not an absolute necessity.
If you're looking to boost at moderate levels you will have zero worries. An EGT guage will do the lions share of keeping you out of trouble.
16:00 turbo helps you a lot' if like you said the engine has wear and lower than it should compression.
Still pretty impressive from that tiny combustion chamber. Tbh kinda hard to believe that head gasket could hold that pressure 😂
The alh with the bigger combustion chamber stroke and compression would make A LOT more if the fuel is sufficient enough even at lower boost.
Impressive results, good job 👍
Thanks!! Yes I'm excited to compare how the 1.9l does.
@OliverFetter keep in mind that direct injection timing is crucial for the engine's/piston cone health.
*Had a few engines with bad injection timing due to camshaft tweak, (on the 1.9 pd engines if you shift the camshaft it also changes the time it pushes the injector/pump, it didn't fail but the pistons had significantly more wear on the 5 nozzle spots the injector was shooting) at my understanding, the cone head of the piston is hardened to support that high fuel combustion impact and if the ignition is off you shift the impact on a weaker spot of the piston and its starting to remove material.
Lower compression over time, engine had slow soft smoky start and rough low rpm misfiring (unburned fuel)
From ear experience i can tell if these engines have low compression just from cranking them up and especially cold
( they don't jump at each piston compression as it should almost like a petrol engine and the same when you shut them off with open intake shutoff valve the engine doesn't kick back and it slowly stops)
Their obvious indication is rly low performance before the turbo boost.
like snail slow performance, engine feels like its 40hp before the 1900rpm range
@ChrisGR93_TxS super interesting!! Thank you for sharing. Is there a timing position you've landed on for your own that you're satisfied with (in deg BTDC)?
@ChrisGR93_TxS interesting you mention you can "just tell" with engine health, that's how it is with my 1.6. It used to fire on the first starter crank & now it chugs along for a few seconds before catching 😮💨 replacing it asap!
@OliverFetter its been a long time since i measured a alh asv engine and that's my main concern about your configuration. i never measured the start up injection timing but it idles around 1-1,3 1,5 btdc
The issue comes with the massive atdc injection timing that has a lot of variables and its pretty close to 20º at its max peak performance.
Some ppl with pd 1.9 engines with 550cc injectors push 180hp at 30º+ but i don't think its safe. (If you care about economy and engine health)
If you get the boost controller working right and can maintain the 32 psi it looks like you could have 230hp at 4500rpm
Yes excellent point! I'm hoping to iron that out & go give it another wack.
So the maths says going to the 1.9l all should put you around 250hp and 330ft lbs
We'll see! I'm excited to go back & compare after the swap is completed
Dyno vid with the timing would be really interesting!
Noted!
Thats the highest hp ive seen of this engine, awesome.
if temps are the bottleneck maybe water/meth injection can help
Thanks! Yeah that's an interesting thought 🤔
OMG!!!!
Did anyone see his earlier video at the dyno? Was that one out of calibration or something
It was on a mustang dyno and those are junk
A few years ago I dyno'd an earlier version of the car and it was a mess bc the shop I went to didn't really know what they were doing 💁
@@OliverFetter cool thanks got an 81 caddy. Very inspiring to upgrade the motor
@ryanb8487 cheers to that 🍺
Fucking bad ass! Do you live in / near the Denver metro?
Im looking into buying a 82 Rabbit truck 1.6l love your videos and wouldnt mind having someone in the area to possibly help & talk some things over about my possible build.
Congrats on the build🤙🏽
Thanks!! Yes I am. Right on 🍺
Where did you get that dash ive been looking for something like that for a while now.
You do have the strongest one i hed 145 hp and bent rods but you surpass me 😬
🤔 I know the feeling! I bent the rods in this motor a few years ago so now they're H Beam style instead 👍
Which rods are you running in the engine
Maxpeedingrods H beams
@ well I had got some for mine, I have an 84 1.6 but the rods were smaller at the piston pin and crank than my stock rods when I went to build mine
@the_face2630 dang! Yeah they have two sizes of 1.6 rods for some reason, I've run into that same problem before.
@@OliverFetter what did you do cause they didn’t have another size option when I called them and sent pictures of the different sizes
A stock 1.6 gtd makes 70hp with a turbo, how can this make 72 "na" with low compression?? i would love to see a 200hp 1.6 but this results left me sceptical
You raise an interesting point ~one I didn't ponder myself yet~. A couple thoughts- 1) it's not a stock 1.6 set up whatsoever... Better flowing everything, way, way, way more fuel over anything that rolled out the factory, oversized turbo that was still producing 5 psi of boost (not quite na). Honestly all these things together seem nearly enough. 2) The numbers I went over (as mentioned) are corrected numbers, meaning they are comparable to sea level driving, ideal day, etc. The uncorrected is more like 55hp or something in that neighborhood (at Denver altitude). 3) Of course there's no way to share a Dyno test without making a big deal of the numbers, but I think it's really important to remember that it's not necessarily a good way to compute a be all end all HP number (the dyno industry will say differently), but it is an extremely good way to compare modifications & see baselines while eliminating other conditions. Ie a quarter mile race is a much better test of the speed of your car but Dyno tests between different modifications is a better way to see slight differences...and at the end of the day that's what I'm here for 💁 I'm gonna test the snot out of a bunch of different variables now that we have a baseline to compare to. Finally... To accurately compare this car & numbers to a GTD base 70hp... Ya need to put a stock GTD on a Dynojet Dyno and then we'll have an apples to apples comparison to talk about 👍👍👍 I appreciate the thoughtfulness
No big deal. You only QUADRUPLED the stock horsepower.
Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.
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