5 Bible Passages That Caused Me To Lose My Faith
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 พ.ค. 2023
- In this episode, I share my personal experience with 5 Bible passages that sparked a profound shift in my faith. Join me as I delve into the scriptures that led me to question and reevaluate my beliefs.
Please keep in mind that all everything I say here is my subjective opinion, and is intended to deconstruct fundamentalist/evangelical/conservative Christian ideologies from an ex christian perspective
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My grandfather was arrested when I was 12 years old, on account of sexually molesting at least a dozen girls (including his grandkids). I was told that he asked god and the pastor for forgiveness on his death bed a year later (in prison), and that it was wonderful that he would go to heaven now.
I think that broke something in me. My sister later retorted that she would rather go to hell than to see him in heaven.
Some people prefer the winter season of snow (biblical Hell/Sheol).
Just goes to show that Christianity and its teachings of heaven and hell have nothing at all to do with what we consider justice.
All that matters to this god is whether or not you are willing to bow down and kiss his ass, as though he had the most fragile ego in existence.
If a rapist is elligible for eternal paradise simply for being gullible enough and "feeling sorry", while their victims might end up in eternal torment simply for worshipping the wrong flavor of deity, then that system is as far removed as possible from actual justice. It's a joke, and an offensive one at that.
@@Mastermirror89
God never talks in the Bible. It's always the liars that talk.
@@harveywabbit9541 I don't believe in god anyway, so something that doesn't exist can't talk to begin with.
Regardless though, those are Christian teachings. Christianity very plainly states that whoever accepts Jesus as their savior and repents is elligible for eternal paradise, while the rest be damned. You could be the nicest person who ever lived, if you don't believe in Jesus, you'd still end up in hell.
It's one of the reasons I despise Christianity so much. It tells people that they are born sick in a way (original sin) and that they are obliged to cure themselves. Reject the cure, which is Jesus obviously, and you're screwed.
Even if I tried really hard, I'd have a hard time proposing a more immoral idea.
@@Mastermirror89
Religion has always been a synonym for insanity.
It is always more rational to have questions you can't answer than answers you can't question!
say something more rational then 1+1=2 then... it's an unquestionable answer and it is as rational and sane as it gets...
prove it wrong and it will change thats science@@Quarky07
@@Quarky07 Hopefully, "2" is the answer to "How much make 1+1?". It couldn't be an answer if there wasn't a question first.
@@Quarky07 math is unquestionable, I agree. Religion, however, is questionable. It is not rational to believe it, but not necessarily incorrect either. For example, some people are color blind, and even though color exists it would be hard to 100% legitimately prove it is there to them. The logical belief would be that it doesn't exist until everyone else says it does, it is easier to believe.
@@1GuyGaming _It is not rational to believe it_
That seems a fairly limited definition of 'rational.' It would not be rational to love, then, or to use logic. What do you mean, 'rational'?
_The logical belief would be that it doesn't exist until everyone else says it does, it is easier to believe._
I'm not sure what this means. It's never 'easier' to believe, that the reason Jesus said that 'few find it.' Relationships (which are rational but not infallible) are like that.
When i was younger growing up in a protestant household i always heard the raod to hell is wide and the road to heaven is narrow... wtf is this love and peace it sounds more like American ninja warrior 😂
But I believe in Ninja Warriors~!!
Allen Parr from THE BEAT by Allen Parr reacted very well to this video. Those seeking truth and are not just looking for an excuse to leave Christianity please check it out
@@SamuelQuaye-zs4uc Allen Parr is a false teacher, but would like to see the video btw, anyways about him being a false teacher, check out @fuegosavvy
It's easier to live a life that leads to hell without any sacrifices. You are alwasy on tkme to get back on track for eternal life.
When I was struggling with faith I read the bible in a last ditch effort to find my purpose and it led me directly out of the church. What a ride.
Many shall fall away in The End Times, you are one of them if you really left your Faith
what about islam
It ain’t those parts of the Bible that I can’t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand. -Mark Twain
Such a clever, good, wise, witty man.
God is patient and urges us to trust Him even though we might not understand everything. This world is not without purpose.
I lived in the world without God, I thought I was happy but as the years went by and I got older, and my age mates died in their twenties, thirties, fourties' and I lived on , I wondered if I was truly happy.
My siblings who were Christians seemed to be happier, had more peace, laughed genuinely, were not afraid of death, were not afraid of poverty, they sang Christian songs loud and cheerfully all the time.
I had more money, more stuff but I had no joy. I wondered hoe can they be happier?
Then by God’s Grace I got saved and now I have found that elusive joy, peace, happiness,
I can never exchange it with anything. Not money, not fame, NOTHING will ever take the place of Christ in my life again.
So I know., those who try to take away your faith have lost theirs and misery loves company.
Yet, he was a devout christian.
"the Savior is none the less a sacred Personage & a man should have no desire or disposition to refer to him lightly, profanely, or otherwise than with the profoundest reverence”. (quoted by Doug Aldridge in Mark Twain and the Brazen Serpent, p. 84)
@@AnnWan-bs2xn as they say, whatever works for you.
For me, some of the meanest people I have met in my life have been so-called, devout, born-agains. Having this wisdom "I have found that elusive joy, peace, happiness." Those who are not of my opinion I do not condemn to hell, nor have I ever "tried to take away" one's faith.
@@mauricemenard2243no such thing as hell. And if there were, God would definitely deserve to be there!😂
For me, it was the passage where God orders King Saul to kill all the Amalekites. He told him to kill everyone, even the infants and animals. I was read that passage in Sunday School when I was 16. I already was doubting my faith, but that really helped reassure my doubts. I had to sit there and listen to the Youth pastor argue why genocide was good because the group of people had previously attacked the Israelites, ignoring the fact that completely goes against the principle Jesus taught of "turn the other cheek". I watched all the other kids in the room be hesitant about their support of God's actions, but still keep the "well if it's God's plan" philosophy. I knew how dangerous this mentality can be, and was glad that I separated myself from it.
So not YEHEH burning every last man women and child at Sodom despite Abraham imploring him not to.
For me it was Noah getting pissed, raping his nephew and damming his clan for all time
What a prat
I think it implies Noah was the guy that was molested. Nevertheless, doubtful as it is written after to justify actions against certain enemies.
@@ahmedopone4080 Noah was still a prat for leaving the Unicorns behind
Nephilim offspring and they were sacrificing their own children. Evil through and through the bloodlines
@@russellmiles2861 Where's the verse for that?
For me, being a huge ancient Egyptian buff, it was the lies told in Exodus. That was when I realized and knew the Bible was pure fiction.
Everything in history confirms the Word of God. The problem is no man can understand and believe the Word of God unless the Holy Spirit draws you to God and opens your eyes.
@@izzie5610 The Holy Spirit doesn't exist.
You are so deluded to believe in god, he fits the picture of a perverted psychopath
@@Hugowtum yes, I clearly see He has removed Himself from you. You have been given over to your own depraved mind. What an incredible thing to fall into the hands of a Holy God. May God have mercy on you.
@@izzie5610 How come god doesn't heal amputees?
Years ago I first laid eyes on a bumper sticker a young Smith College girl had on the back of her old Volvo wagon, EVE WAS FRAMED. The privileged men who wrote the Bible blamed everything on women. As far as I'm concerned, any self-respecting modern woman should relieve their guilt ridden souls of this artificially constructed burden, one that was intended to keep women in a subservient social position.
YESSS that is just what Cleopatra may have thought - Did you know that she was actually the extremely bitter Mata Incognita Maria Mother of Jesus Christ? ...The story of her murdered unmarried gay son became the central toxic plague of all religion and TIME was named after him (as before or after Christ - a dead innocent queer - like his dad). She introduced the Julian Calendar we follow today to Julius Caesar!
...and Jesus wasn't an innocent either - he kept endangering his mother and her husband by not keeping a low profile. THAT is why Mary called him a nut in public to save his life...and he kept on until it killed him, because the book of Matthew 2:15 said that he and his mom came out of Egypt. Augustus Caesar was both their contemporary - she and Mark did not commit suicide. The bible became a bloody who-done-it.
@@serpentlaw5961what 😂😂😂😂😂😂 that's not even close to the BIBLE
Plus it was Bathsheba's fault according to male preachers.
Atheists claim to read the Bible and proceed to only point out the things that support their views and ignore the rest. Aka, story of Esther go brrrrrrrr
This is the first video of hers that I've seen. As far as the negative comments she gets, to me it's just very clear that being angry with her is being angry at the messenger, not the message. Rather than pick on her, analyze your religious text and see what's going wrong and why it's turning people away.
It's your sin, allinone, that's turning you away from God. You can only love God or sin. Repent or perish. Choose life...
🙄 UMMM... IT'S NOT TURNING PEOPLE AWAY. PEOPLE THEMSELVES ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN TURN THEMSELVES AWAY. NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE OTHER THAN ONE'S SELF SAYS OR ACKNOWLEDGES IT'S WITHOUT QUESTION THE INDIVIDUAL'S FINAL DECISION. IT'S ADDED IN THAT LONG LIST OF THINGS IN LIFE CALLED... RESPONSIBLITIES. TAKE IT.
@@paul3441 Once again (just like I mentioned in my comment) you're picking a fight with the messenger. You don't know anything about me yet you're assuming I'm a sinner because you don't like what I said.
@@nicsmada Writing in all caps doesn't make you right.
@@allinone-qz2gi 😒 AWW MAN. 🤔 WELL... HEY, AT LEAST YOU NOTICED! 🤷♂️
Hey! It’s been an age since I’ve seen a new video. I just wanted to wish you well in whatever you are doing. I think I found your channel a year or so ago, and you helped me a lot. I lived with the weight of some original sin for my whole life, and even baptism did not wash away the shame I had for something that wasn’t even my fault. You gave me permission to forgive myself, and not be ashamed of existing. So, you know, big thanks and stuff. Know that even if I never see any more of your content, you played a positive role in my wellbeing. :)
Romans 8:1
@@samuelpayne896 1 Kings 17:4 fuels my 2nd Bill of Rights agenda in politics.
@@Dr.DreadFeather bros agenda is drinking from a brook
Whats a reverse exorcism when the devil tells the priest to get out of the child.
Lmao
Ex evangelical, now atheist here.
You were the first person I came across, that helped me deconstruct my faith. You made me feel validated and not alone. Deconstruction is one of the hardest things I've gone through! A million thankyous Kristi 🥰💓🥰💓🥰
People think atheists are atheists because they *haven't* read the Bible.
The fact is, most atheists become atheists because they *have* read the Bible.
Actually it wasn't this chick who helped deconstruct your faith....it was Jesus who sent this chick cause he didn't like your lack of discipline and didn't think you were a good fit because you didn't represent him well....he didn't want you. Like Bible says below
2 Thessalonians 2:11-13
New Living Translation
11 So God will cause them to be greatly deceived, and they will believe these lies. 12 Then they will be condemned for enjoying evil rather than believing the truth.
God made you believe this jezebel chick according to this scripture cause frankly he found you lazy and wanting.
Also don't forget to to study Darwinism...so you can fully go to the darkside....also read alister crowlys books as well...and then don't forget about your horoscopes and tarot cards...dont want to miss out on all of those goodies from satan as well...oh and don't forget to pick up a Ouija board at your local Walmart fir some fun night time entertainment
@@polynesia8733 Why so much hate?
@@polynesia8733why does science scare you?
The SA/forced marriage verse always bothered me, so I asked one of my Jewish friends about it and she chuckled and said, 'yes, but he has to sleep next to her every night for the rest of his life, and think about Yael.' I'm not satisfied with that answer either, because too many women are prisoners in unwilling and unhappy marriages for their entire lives into old age.
This is where they get it wrong, the translation is meant to be "intercourse" not "rape". If a man and women have sex before marraige, they are to be married and the man pay the father of the women. It is still sinful and they will be judged for it by God. Women are allowed to get divorced, but it is sinful for them to remarry, but God still calls on people to marry them, even if it is sinful for the man had divorced them depriving them of a marriage and sex.
A few verses before that, it rebukes rape. This is a translation error because of modern translations
@@connorallgood0922 "This is where they get it wrong, the translation is meant to be "intercourse" not "rape"." What is your evidence for your claim?
@@rodshop5897 Do you not know how translating works? Google it if you need to, I can't show you physical documents or study notes online.
@@rodshop5897his silence speaks volumes
To align your 1st and last verses, starting with the last; It doesn't matter what we believe because our efforts don't matter. You go girl! You've enlightened me! Thanks.
20 years I have prayed for a loving man, children, a home, etc. My faith in Christianity has never lead me to these prayers answered. I would pray and find drug addicts trying to come into my life. I am so happy I found your channel, I feel free, I have a high standered, strict morals, and god has not met my standerds.
Then you may find paradise
(at the criminally underrated channel of endless entertainment, enlightenment and clarity) at
DarkMatter2525 😮
(Trust me about...
its high "standards"; )
It's probably because you haven't met God's standard?
Standard.
I "lost my religion" in 1964 when I was 9 years old. (Long story) Then in 2012 I decided, just to be fair, to read the Bible from cover to cover. Having done that I'm amazed that you were able to limit this list to just five passages. I read 5-10 pages a day and was gob-smacked on a regular basis by how cruel and inane it all was. But, I have to say, the 5 you selected were a fine sampling!
I also read the bible.. Her first one.. The pottery for special uses= Equals god's profits..or common uses= Me and you.. A murderer or a thief Or child molester can't just choose God You know how retarded that sounds. God chooses you when you come to him with a pure heart.. That being said, Jesus said you will be known by your deeds..
AGREE~!!
"how cruel and inane it all was" ---
The Bible is a book about evil addressed to a world enamored of evil.
Are you suggesting that evil should be portrayed in a more positive light and less "cruel and inane"?
What you cannot Spiritually digest, will not blind perception in the minds of those who can Consume it.
@@andrewferg8737With God being the most evil character in the bible.
Kristi, as someone who was brought up outside of the absurdity of religion, I haven’t had to deal with your struggle, but I so admire the intellectual wherewithal and emotional courage it took you to do what you are doing. We need more people like you. Our fate as a species depends on it.
Sorry, but Romans 9 says NOTHING about sending anyone to hell. Quote it straight or shut the hell up!!!!!!!!
Religions give false hope in a non-existent second blissful life. Find meaning in this life. Family, friends, altruism. Try and work towards human flourishing. Reduce suffering where you can. Dignity, cooperation and compassion. These are all meaningful and are not pie in the sky when you die. Try and leave the world a better place because you were here. There is no supernatural realm.
@@davidstirk4732 sure they do. Evidence: your opinion.
@@CannabisDreams Just because you don't believe in a god doesn't mean you don't believe in anything, and all the time not wasted in prayer and church attendance allows you to achieve more. No hope for tomorrow? What does god belief have to do with hope for tomorrow?
@@BrianBrayMedia I get it you believe in nothing and your life is a waste of time.
They say America is a Christian nation. This book explains so much about how America was founded. Basically Manifest Destiny was taken directly from this book.
From 1607 to 1786 we were a Christian nation. From 1786 onward, a secular anarchy. Fix blame accuractely.
Right. If Genocide in the name of God’s “elect” was okay in the past, it’s permissible now. This is why this ideology is so dangerous.
The founding fathers were Deists, and their references to God in their documents are a Stoic notion of Divinity, not abrahamic. The founding fathers had just witnessed the european wars of religion and concluded nothing good came from religion, and sought to emulate pre-christian roman institutions and philosophies. Anyone who thinks America is founded on evangelical Christianity is totally out of his mind. Or he is lying. Usually both with Christians.
as a teenager who has anxiety ,separating from the church has been horrible. Thank you so much for talking about this it makes me feel better about my thoughts 🫶🏻
“Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.”
You will only find true peace through Christ, your faith in Him has to remain strong…… don’t abandon your relationship with God.
“Christ” is not the only way you’ll find peace. I believe in a Higher Power, but not the Christian God. That Higher Power has brought me so much peace, without all of the backwards rules and regulations. This religious brainwashing needs to be eradicated
@@babyvanderwoodsen can you elaborate on what backwards rules and regulations Christ has preached about? Also you can’t have a personal relationship with a “higher” power if you don’t know them. God speaks to you through the Holy Bible and sent his only Son to experience human pain and suffering so you can have someone to relate to and He died for you to save us from our sins because we’re all imperfect and fall short. No other god or “higher” power will ever do that for you.
@@meezuswest1781 She literally explained it in the video? 😭 Also her whole entire channel is dedicated to debunking the bible. One more thing, everyone has a different belief system, you cannot tell someone “you can only do xyz because xyz said so” if that person doesn’t even believe in what you’re saying in the first place. I literally do not believe in the bible, nor sin, so what you just said has no bearing on me. I identify with being a spiritual human being, not Christian. You wouldn’t tell a Muslim, Mormon, Buddhist, or Jewish person that they’re wrong and you’re right would you? That would be incredibly ignorant and disrespectful.
You can believe whatever you want, but fact of the matter is, your religion is not superior to anyone else’s. Even if we did go that route, God gave us free will, and he also gave us multiple ways to have a relationship with him. I don’t know who told you that you can’t have a personal relationship with God, but that is incredibly false and actually very hurtful for you to say. You don’t say that to people, even if you believe it for whatever bizarre reason. Once again, if someone doesn’t practice your religion, why would you expect them to abide by whatever rules the “Holy Bible” says? Thank you for reinforcing why I, and many other people, stay away from Christianity and it’s toxicity :)
@@babyvanderwoodsen 1. She never quoted Jesus once ( the gospel) also if you understood Christianity you would know that God made a new covenant with humanity and a lot of things from 2,000 years ago don’t apply to us anymore
2. You’re right I can’t tell you what to believe in I can only tell you about the good news and you decide what to do with it
3. I would tell someone that that their religion is false and that Christ is their only salvation, that’s how strong my faith is. I would never attack them personally though.
4. The TH-camr is literally saying the Judea-Christian God is fake so by your logic she’s being ignorant and disrespectful
5. I believe in a God who actually existed on Earth, hundreds of witnesses who saw him die and get buried, and dozens of witnesses who saw him after being resurrected. My God’s tomb was empty while Mohammed and Buddha are still dead in their graves.
6. You believe in a pagan god whose name you don’t even know, a god who doesn’t reveal himself to you, or a god who won’t even suffer for you. Your spiritual relationship with the god that you claim is based on nothing.
The "pro-life" crowd often focuses narrowly on the issue of abortion, but the recent Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade goes beyond that. This decision stripped away protections that safeguarded women's rights to privacy. Roe v. Wade was about more than just legalizing abortion-it was a constitutional recognition of women's privacy rights. The implications extend beyond abortion to broader questions about women's rights. What rights will conservatives seek to curtail next? Will they challenge women's voting rights or other fundamental freedoms?
There’s no such thing as a “right to abortion”. Anyone who thinks it’s their right to murder an innocent baby is pure evil.
Indeed! 👍
I think you answered your question already.
Pro- lifers are focused on abortion(children's rights).
Roe v. Wade was overturned(court came to the conclusion that young tiny humans have rights too)
What women's rights have Conservatives tried to overturn since then or before then?
Conservatives were the ones that gave women rights in the first place.
What evidence, historical or modern, do you have that shows conservatives focus on women's rights?
No doubt conservatives will go after lgbtq rights next, as for voting I do remember one Republican saying that they should remove female rights because if not “in 50 years we won’t have a Christian nation anymore”.
Maybe their right to undress in a female only locker room, to compete only against other females ? The right to raise their children without the government and schools trying to take the place of their parenting?
Those rights?
Some of the best advice I've received was "Keep company with those who seek the truth, and run fast from those who say they've found it."
drink ayahuasca and you'll become the heavens and universe
@@simionesentheogens3687 Would be interested in trying for sure.
Sheesh
I just avoid videos like these because they give me existential crisis. I refuse to believe we exist for nothing.
Is that true?
Well done. I've had many former Christians tell me that what turned them away was reading the bible for themselves.
@akashic seer What a peculiar comment. “The most evil book on earth?” We are truly living in a time when good is evil and evil is good.
@akashic seer Ask him to read Deuteronomy 21, Judges 21, and 2 Samuel 24, next...! (Seek Truth, that is)
They were never Christians...former or otherwise
@@polynesia8733that's what all Christians say...
@@polynesia8733 Well, if you do not fulfil John 14:12-13, say... then how, do we know you are?
I attended and graduated from a Bible college about three years before deconverting from Christianity. While I did not major in biblical studies everyone had to take a certain number of Bible classes regardless of major. While I would not portray myself as an expert on this ancient text I would bet my next paycheck that my knowledge is deeper than the average Joe or Jane Churchgoer. My professors there encouraged me to ask tough questions regarding my faith. Some might say this advice backfired but I view this as intellectual honesty that I still respect today.
gods kill count is sickening to read about, and i also tried to hold on to everything good with god, but the passages where few and far apart from each other.
Reading the bible in earnest was what cured me of Christianity too.
What cured me. Lol. I like that.
You may have read it "in earnest," but you didn't read it "in the Spirit." God bless.
@@curtisdeckard7325 Wow, so you've been "cured" of salvation, I suppose...
i love it when xtians get in comment sections of all these social media sites on the internet & begin to announce what god can do or is allowed to do based on if their feelings get hurt
@@schaekker7411 100%
Notes:
Romans 9:16
Psalms 137:9
Deuteronomy 22:28
Deuteronomy 20:10
John 3:16
@@jessicaras4540I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY MORE BOOKS WRITTEN ABOUT THIS SAME JESUS THAT WAS REJECTED. Who gave them the authority to reject those other books, not Jesus. So all these quotes you are making (with so much conviction) were decided by people like you and me. NOT JESUS or Paul or PETER but by pagan Converts.
@yaksmj3913 its cause they weren't Canon bible books.
@@Alden-Smith Who made the DECISION about writing being fit to be Canon OR non-Canon?? On what authority did they make such decisions??
@yaksmj3913 only books written by real Christians and were part of the apostles are considered real Christian books
@@Ogofor3913 Mark and Luke were mentioned
The first time i read the bible i was 12. A snake started talking, and i thought “oh, this is just a fantasy novel”. Then i would go around asking people if they believed in magic, then they would obviously say no, and i would say then you dont believe in god like a little shithead lol.
Awesome work 💯🔥
Allen Parr from THE BEAT by Allen Parr reacted very well to this video. Those seeking truth and are not just looking for an excuse to leave Christianity please check it out
Former Mormon here. Thank you for the video. I'm glad you are sharing your thoughts for others to consider.
I dig your black hole profile picture. Have you seen "Everything, Everywhere, All At Once"? I'd highly suggest it... ✌️&🤍
Mormonism is a Satanic cult, almost as bad as Roman Catholicism.
Yes. You are so right.
Nelson won’t like it that you referred to yourself as a Mormon. I’m still a member, but in name only.
@@the20thDoctor Nah bro thats the tip of snoop dogs blunt in the great cosmos
This has been really interesting. I was raised non-religious and I've been an atheist for a long time. So I was never convinced. But in my webcomic, I try to show worldviews beyond my own. Getting these inside perspectives helps me be a better writer as well as just being a fascinating look behind the curtain.
Your words sound more Agnostic. I think exploring that would be a beneficial path for you. Best wishes!
It certainly is a different world. Even now sometimes I'll say things and my non Christian friends will look at me like I am SO weird. Lol. It really does set you apart a bit from non religious people even as an adult because there are experiences I missed out on as a kid or teen that other people talk about that's just a part of that generation that I didn't experience at that age. So when some friends get nostalgic sometimes, I have nothing to contribute to the conversation even though it was so common for everyone else at the time from my teen years.
It's amazing how far it spreads into your life and you don't even realize it till years later. Just the other day, I was watching some medical coroner thing and they were talking about skeletal remains they found and mentioned they assumed by the pelvis and smaller stature it must be a woman but they couldn't be 100% sure and it hit me like a slap in the face that when I was younger, I was taught men legitimately had one less rib because that is how god made Eve, from Adam's rib. And I totally believed it for YEARS because I was taught it as a child. It's incredible to me how even years later I can suddenly still come across something small like that, that is such an obvious lie. I think it's why they can be so insular and create groups like upward basketball or upward soccer because the best way to keep kids in the fold is to keep them from the outside world to keep them from questioning. I just questioned stuff to much to be kept in it forever. I think even the pastors grew tired of my questions. Lol
kid...., what's so tough about it? 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
Where to start? Hearing this is sad and normally I wouldn’t offer a reply as it appears you’ve already made up your mind, but you are affecting others with your misinformation. So… Romans 9 is mis-interpreted by Calvinists (Calvinism, by the way, and atheism are just two sides of the same determinist coin). It is part of a larger discussion of how Gentiles are grafted into the “tree” of God’s people. This discussion continues through chapter 11. The key to what God wills is faith or lack of it (Roman’s 9:30-33). In the Old Testament passages your 21st century feminist perspective is projected on 14th century BCE people. God works with people and cultures where they are at, not where we think they should be.
It appears you already see God as a monster so you misrepresent the meaning of John 3:16. You are wrong about Jesus and by extension the Trinity. The deity of Christ is clear in John 8:53+ (see also Colossians 1 and Philippians 2).
It is clear from your childish view of God and complete misunderstanding of the Bible that 1 John 2:19 is true about you.
@@zoeye7095 you have grown Spiritually and Emotionally. It's great you are realizing to be an Honest and Caring one needs to have a clean Consciousness and feels good about our deeds. I really enjoyed reading how you became a responsible grown adult.
A very balanced and respectful argument that you have presented Miss Burke and I for one fully agree with what you have said here. Thank you for taking the time and effort to share this unbiased view with us. Deep respect from India/Roby.
Moving from France to Poland, I witnessed how the same religion can be practiced in different countries. Poland is a Catholic country where religion and tradition are one. I wasn't really superstitious, and i believed that was in the Bible was images, poesia, a text written. At a certain period for certain people. But here in Poland, i felt like most believers took the book to the letter. Some crazy stuff. This is what makes me go towards my deconstruction..
France hasn't been a true Roman Catholic country since they stopped being a kingdom.
I am totally comfortable and proud to say I don't know what happens after death, just live my life the best way I can each and every day.
The same here. Where were we before we were born? The same place as after we die.
The one who created you, who knows how you came about, says,
“I created you, that one day I might spend eternity with you,.trust me and be patient. I love you. That is why I send My Son to die for you”
Myself I have nothing to lose by accepting Him. I know that out there there is a creator, there is no way all we see around is by chance.
So, He who has claimed me, I will trust Him. I have nothing to loose if I do. If there is nothing out there I lose nothing, if there is something I gain everything. I think a smart thing to do.
@@AnnWan-bs2xnWhat if a god besides the one you believe in is true? What if that god decides to punish you more for devoting yourself to a popular false god, compared to punishing an atheist lightly for not choosing any god?
Pascal's wager only works if there's only one possible religion, which we would have no way of knowing anyway.
Ignorance of a law is not an excuse.
@@jaysenossai7165Exactly, everyone should obey hindu scripture and gain good karma. Praise Lord Krishna 😊
It is wonderful to hear people challenging their conditioning/brainwashing from childhood. As well as overcoming their spiritual oppression (as well as other oppressions wrapped up in religion). It’s wonderful to hear reason and logic and intelligently challenging the religious dogma. This young lady broke down everything in this video in such a beautiful way. In a considerate and intelligent way. By applying empathy and critical thinking. Breaking the spell that casted on her so many years ago. That takes courage!!
Thank you! This was really kind 💓
By what standard do you determine what is conditioning and what is brainwashing? I find that people define it based simply on their own belief system. Don't believe in Christianity?... then Christian teaching is "brainwashing." Are you a Republican?...then CNN is brainwashing, etc. Are you a Democrat?...then Fox News is brainwashing, etc...ad nauseam.
What if this video is a form of brainwashing? What if what you call brainwashing is actually truth? Be careful
Unfortunately there's so many people being brainwash today into atheist humanism even to the point where atheistic humanist are severely mutilating their children because of their face base believe that children have a brain of a different gender in their body
Fighting for the right to continue to sin is not the same as challenge ones conditioning..
Rejecting God and his words have never produced a better person or society in all human history but darkness..
To question is good but imagine questioning the Law of gravity.. God and his words is eternal law that challenging it does not invalidate it.
Much love and remain blessed..
@@timothyjonathan8301 If you worship the Christian god you worship a god of hate, slavery, rape and genocide.
In a southern draw . Bless your heart.
I feel with exceptional freedom after quitting Christianity.
I know God does not exist because of my father's death 10 years ago. By the time he was having serious sickness, I prayed so hard to god to help him get better... But he didn't respond to my wish. So I think it's clear... at least to me.
I love the first thing you said about getting to a place where you can accept not knowing the answers to the mystery of life. That's been a part of my process as well (formerly religious Jew). I think it's actually a sign of normal and healthy maturity to get to that point, but those in fundamentalist religions aren't given the chance to mature in that way. They have to hold tight to their doctrine.
Definitely. It's very hard to embrace the unknown, but I think it can also be very liberating to just admit that we don't have all the answers. And that's ok.
@@jezebelvibes yes and to just live your life, as you said, without extra externally imposed rules
You wouldn't know about, nor fear the "unknown" were it not for indoctrination.
Why are Christians worried about YOUR soul being damned to eternal hell when THEY won't be there?
"Life AFTER death" ?
"Eternal life"?
What? Now THAT'S selfish.
I love this. I did find a new spiritual path after some time as an atheist, but it's different this time. I'm happy to admit that I really don't have many answers and I'm just following what I find personally helpful. I can be happy for other people doing the same and don't feel the need to tell everyone what I believe all the time.
They're led to believe they can never ride their bikes without Training Wheels. May their Pickle Jars of Indoctrination be Broken
Wisdom is explified with this statement, no matter who first said this:
"I'd rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned."
Isn't it a quote of Feynman?
@@oriza2 Winner! Winner!
💯🎯 I just looked it up on Phind.
You can have both!
I seek wisdom and understanding knowing that I'm but a fool. I know what the Bible says but am constantly in the state of reproof by it. I never question the bible as truth but my understanding of it.
Me a bisexual Wiccan: *grabs a bible and gets a sticky note for each page to prove a point to my Christian bully, because they are sexist and homophobic and wiccaphobic*
This video has really triggered creepy Alan Parr and his followers! Thanks, Kristi 👏🍿
it is of my opinion that those that have the courage to say "i don't know" are the ones that have the most to live for
Even though one may not know does not mean the answer cannot be revealed later on.
Or the most to learn
If you don’t know who god is you have a really bad problem it’s obvious, and you choose a life of blindness and lies to say you don’t know. The truth is you don’t want it to be true and you don’t care
@@simpumoonyou mean God? Just have to understand.
Is there anything you do know?
I was raised southern Baptist and grew up going to church. It never really felt right to me, but I did like going because I had a chance to socialize and the church actually let us (i was like 8) drink coffee 😆
Well, I was 14 and had to go to Juvenile detention for a few weeks for some dumb stuff because my step father and I hated each other. Actually turned 15 there.... when I was in my cell and a guard came by and asked me if I wanted to go to church. It was actually the first time I had ever been asked.... I thought about it for a few moments and said "You know what.... No, I dont think I do."
I realized in that moment that the only reason I even went along with it because:
1. I was raised with it and didnt know any other way.
2. I was scared not to because I was told I would suffer for eternity in firey damnation for not believing (such a lovely thing to tell a child....).
I realized that these were not good reasons to believe something like that.
The more I stepped out and saw it from an outside perspective the more disgusted I was at what it really was. I try my hardest every day to be the best person I can be. And I dont necessarily deny the existence of a god, I just see no evidence of one and I believe that the Christian god and religions in general are just like you said.. "Created to control people". And I dont choose to deny the possibility of a god. I just reject all these outrageous stories Ive been told about from people I don't even know.......
Besides, if there was a god like that, then he is narcissistic and sadistic. So many innocent people.... children.... suffering and dying.......
"If there is a God, He will have to beg for my forgiveness.” - victim of a german concentration camp.....
@@davidboyd1745 You mean if there is a Christian like god.... If there was some sort of real god, then it would be vengeful and spiteful and violent. That kind of god is 100 man made to scare and control people.
@@davidboyd1745 You apparently did not comprehend this very short and well written comment of @jessiejamesferruolo2009 from 2 weeks ago [today's date is 24 Nov 2023 @7a.m. CDT] reading your comment from 3 days prior to my own in which you stated in response to the ending of the original post (edited, not sure when if it was before or after your post)
"If there is a God, He will have to beg for my forgiveness.” - victim of a german concentration camp.....:
@davidboyd1745
3 days ago
If there is a God he will not want your forgiveness or company or opinion. Sad
In taking the original comment (edited) that clearly shows that the comment was that of a victim of a German concentration camp, why then would you state that the person that wrote the comment that they themselves wanted forgiveness from a "God" if it exists?
And why do you supposit yourself with an "if" as it pertains to "God" existence if you yourself have no doubt in the existence of "God"?
And if you have *any doubt* that "God" exist, who are you to make any statement on what this "God" will not want?
And if you have *no doubt* that "God" exist, who are you to make any statement on what this "God" will not want?
And if you do not even have the mental capacity to understand a small concise comment as the one you are responding to, much less the capacity to comprehend the 21 minutes and 43 seconds of this video, how then can you comprehend the entirety of the Christian Bible or even anything for that matter to have a comprehension of what "sad" is?
Humans perish due to lack of knowledge (Hosea 4:6) as they fail to seek it as Yeshua aka "Jesus" encourages them to seek.
In the age of information where you, or anyone having access to this comment, specifically has access but refusing to seek has purposefully chosen to not seek knowledge so they can perish. Now that is a truly sad state of being [choosing to perish most like due to laziness].
@jessiejamesferruolo2009, [edited @1 hr]
Good for you in evaluating critically for yourself the difference between right and wrong and doing your best to do the right thing.
I don’t know it all, I have sought and found some answers. Between 11 Feb 2018 and 9 Sep 2018 of seeking/researching spiritual matters [while I was active duty military with little free time] yet I spent an average of 400 hours per month and over 2,700+ hours of research to free myself from almost 40 years of indoctrination that the blood sacrifice saves! FALSE! The more amazing thing wasn't my oodles of hours of research but that I was clearly spoken to by a unseen, non-vocal voice, that were not my thoughts or another personality, that I choose to call the Spirit of Truth in John 14:26 (I now call it by this name retroactively; at the time I did not know what it was and I didn't trust it. I felt no evil from it. As I had my world previously shattered sometime between March-June 2015 that if "God" exist he was an evil bastard I wanted nothing to do with after reading over 4+ hours of scriptures from an Atheist source that shows the estimated 4+ billion murders of "God" which included the baby of David and Bathsheba). So I heard from the Spirit of Truth on 11 Feb 2018 to go find that video and I automatically knew it was the second of two videos watched in November 2015. At approximately 2,400+ hours of research on 26 Aug *2018,* I was clearly told that Babylon of Revelation sat on the 7 continents of the earth (I didn't even knew how many continents of the earth there was, I think I was raised with a knowledge of 5 continents. The last I took Geography was about 25 years prior around age 15, so I Googled it as I wasn't just going to take something I could validate just eagerly as "gospel." The website I found and verified the number of continents on earth was pretty neat. It showed the different timeline of when the continent number were different. That even up to the 1960s, England taught only 5 continents, and that in the future that we will only have 6 continents as Europe and Asia will be combined to Eurasia. Therefore, I understood that even though the numeric value of the continent changes per perception of mankind, that per my mankind’s knowledge of the current time frame I was reading it, that even though Revelation was written approximately 2,000 years prior that the information was meant for me in this timeline to comprehend the truth of the information in the now regardless of the changing perception of mankind. That moment in knowledge was taken to impart a deeper knowledge). The third time I heard clearly from the Spirit of Truth was on 9 Sep 2023 with over 2,700+ hours of research that the Second Beast and False Prophet of Revelation (immediately after I connected they were the same entity as I was wondering where the heck did the False Prophet of Revelation came from while reading it a 4th time to write about who Babylon is to someone. I had to double back around all the way back to revelation 13 and read forward to realize that they were one and the same. Even though I had read the Book of Revelation in it's entirety 3 times between 11 Feb 2018 and 28 May 2018) is Pharisee Saul Paul of Tarsus who preferred to be called "Apostle" Paul. I already knew with 100 hours of study that the Bright Light and Voice that Pharisee Saul Paul of Tarsus met was not Yeshua aka "Jesus" and I also knew he was a false apostle. Yet never in my wildest dream did I draw the conclusion that he is the Second Beast/False Prophet of Revelation. In fact the second video I was called to find on 11 Feb 2018 was highlighting the difference between was "Jesus" said and what Paul said. I never found the video back then but found many more things [found in 2021). This third clear revelation from the Spirit of Truth on 9 Sep 2018 freed me from my enslavement of hatred/lawlessness.
Christianity does NOT hold the Truth. I don't even know if the human Yeshua existed, but I believe the human man Yeshua did exist. He had a biological mother and a biological father. He was raised as a Israelite aka "Jew." He woke up from his falsehood indoctrination of a religion as YHWH being the One True Creator and found him vile and evil just like I did, just like the lady on this TH-cam video did. I believe his was possibly more exaggerated than mine. Yeshua, which means YHWH saves, set out to show his fellow Israelites that there is a way to Eternal Life. He might have performed miracles (I believe he did), but it is possible that he didn't yet he was giving hope to others from the oppression they were currently suffering. Regardless of whether this man Yeshua existed or not, his message was *not about blood sacrifice saves.* This got added in by Pharisee Saul Paul of Tarsus aka "Apostle" Paul. This idea was stomped out and killed off with the written Gospels and other epistles such as 1-3 John, 2 Peter, James, etc. Council Nicea 325 AD created the pagan worship of Easter as well as created Yeshua as not only Son of "God" but "God." I am very certain that John 1:2 was added in shortly there after to add Him x 3 in John 1:3-4, so they could retroactively change Genesis 1:25-28 where the "Us" is Father-Son combination even though the evidence is female and male🤣and not only female and male but hermaphrodite female-male that was able to procreate🤪. By Council Constantinople I 381 AD, they have decided on a TRINITY and decided to make the Spirit of Truth a separate deity of the 3-in-1 "Godhead."
All the above Trinity and Yeshua being a "God" is nothing but garbage. Yeshua's murder being a sacrifice that abolished what he taught that steadfast love of others (small sample: Mathew 5:17-20, Matthew 24:35, Matthew 22:34-40, Luke 10:25-37, John 13:34, Hosea 6:6 [Hebrew word is *hesed* and is properly translated in ESV as *steadfast love* not the falsehood of "mercy" as most other major translation rendered it and pretty much anywhere it is ascribed that Yeshua said "mercy" it is *steadfast love* such as Luke 10:37, Matthew 9:13 and Matthew 12:7 which both points us to Hosea 6:6], John 17:2-4) and forgiveness of others (Matthew 6:14-15). Yeshua has pointed out the lies of YHWH and his prophet Moses to include the replication that took place starting in Genesis 2:4 to the destruction by YHWH Genesis 8:22 in the Parable of the Wheat and Tares and its Explanation [Matthew 13] combined with the Parable of the Sower and its Explanation [Matthew 13 + Luke 8] and all of John 8 [specifically v.31-47 with focus on v.44] that shows that YHWH/devil was a liar and murderer from the beginning. Dominion as written in Genesis 1:25-28 means being a caretaker. You do not slaughter the being in your care to then use their skin as clothes. YHWH not only lied in Genesis 2:16-17 as shown by Genesis 1:29-30, Genesis 3:1-7, and his and his demons admitting in Genesis 3:22-24, but is a murderer when he slaughtered those animals in front of Adam and Eve for clothes, the flood, and his glorious track record under his robber [John 10:7-14] Moses [Exodus 3-14].
While Christianity does not have the Truth and the vast majority of the Christian Bible is filled with *FALSEHOOD,* there is truth within in. I recommend going to Matthew 7:15-20 to get the key codes to find truth which is summarized as follows:
GOOD TREE = GOOD FRUITS
BAD TREE = BAD FRUITS
GOOD TREE CANNOT GIVE BAD FRUITS
BAD TREE CANNOT GIVE GOOD FRUITS
For example: Exodus 16:4, YHWH claimed he will be giving the Israelites bread from "heaven" and at the same time test them to see if they will follow his laws (to not take more than the daily need).
James 1:13 clearly states that "God" does not tempt/test. Most English translations hides the English on peirazō:
*The Greek word peirazō is Strong's 3985 which is the English translation is test as well as tempt.* www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Lexicon.show/ID/G3985/peirazo.htm
John 6:30-33 has the Israelites disciples/followers of Yeshua asking for a sign as they are quoting Exodus 16:4-21 about getting bread from "heaven" as Moses brought them from YHWH and Yeshua response was in John 6:33 that Moses most ASSUREDLY did not give the Israelites bread from heaven, but that Yeshua's "Father" [Hermaphrodite Parent according to the image in the physical expression of mankind in Genesis 1:25-28] is the one that has the True Bread of Life.
Exodus :16:4 goes all the way back to YHWH's introduction in Exodus 3, and what he said of Pharaoh in Exodus 3:19, and the multiple hardening of Pharaoh's heart to slaughter the Egyptians and causes the Israelites to be fearful as seen by the end of Exodus 14 shows us that this YHWH is not a good tree. John 6:33 also show us that YHWH does not live in heaven and thus can not give anything from heaven as the lie YHWH told in Exodus 16:4 which shows that John 8:44 that this YHWH/devil creature lies from his resources and kills.
Now Luke 9:51-56 also show that Elijah's works of killing under YHWH is not the Spirit any of us should ever follow as Yeshua who had the One True Creator's Spirit of Truth living and speaking through Yeshua (John 14) who came to rescue us from lies. Thus John 17:2-4 completed Yeshua's mission to bring us the Knowledge of the One True Creator by knowing the One True Yeshua not the fake communion or bread symbolic cannibalism garbage. The knowledge of loving and forgiving each other regardless of the wrong others do to us is what grants eternal life. When we do anything else, then we are doing YHWH/devil work. The One True Creator does not destroy any of us, our own actions is a magnet to draw us to the place that is present to draw people to. Our actions will determine if our name is in the Book of Life [Revelation 22:10-20]. It's your choice to seek to know what the right thing to do is; because YHWH has polluted and corrupted us to fail. Shake that sh!t off and free yourself as spoken of in John 8:31-47.
So, youre LDS??
@@markfrost2707I am not sure how the original commenter (jessie) that say that they are unsure of there is an existence of "God" or the second commenter (david) who didn't really say anything could be considered a LDS. That only leave myself as the only person on the thread that put 2 comments out of 4 that was on the thread. If you are addressing me, I am *not* a Christian. I left that falsehood on 9 Sep 2018.
Our family lived on the small Mediterranean island of Malta for a few years in the sixties when it was still a British protectorate. Malta was very heavily influenced by the Roman Catholic Church at the time (may still be). One day, a priest came to the door of our home seeking donations. My mother declined, and the priest asked her if she knew where she was "going to go" if she didn't make a donation. My mother replied by saying , "Wherever that is, I'll see you there."
Personally, I find the pages of the Bible strong, soft, and thoroughly absorbent.
“I’d rather have questions I can’t answer than answers I can’t question.“ Richard Feynman.
I prefer questions I can't
answer, because I learn so
much more looking for the
answers as opposed to
what I know already.
No believer who is reasonable would say not to have doubts. By all means, inquire about your doubts but have an open mind to receive the answers. If you are not satisfied, research more. You will definitely find the truth if you really want to.
@@snehakota6068 ! Truth about what? I already know that there is no god!
@@j.whisper2379 what if you're wrong? You might stay in ignorance assuming that you know the truth. I can understand the supernatural can be overwhelming and uncomfortable to someone who's never experienced it. But, God does exist and I personally experienced his presence in my life which transformed my life and is still doing. If you decide to dismiss tons of testimonies in the world and continue believing what is comfortable to you, then it's you who'd be on the losing end, if what the believers of Jesus are saying is the truth. Do your own research. Peace.
@@snehakota6068 ! I live in Mexico, and yesterday I was chased by a chupacabra! Changed my entire outlook on life! And what if you are kow towing to the wrong god! There are thousands!
A very good video on the same questions I had when I was in Catholic school. It never made sense to me either. The nuns would tell us when I was in first grade that only Catholics go to heaven. Even at that young age I couldn't believe that. The brainwashing was epic in Catholic school. I subscribed.💖
Same here. I remember thinking “but what about all the people who lived outside of that area at that time? Were they all damned for not knowing about the Christian religion?” It didn’t make sense.
So now the Catholic church has backtracked (long story but I live in Taipei, been going to one because it's the only English-language one near me, and yes, I have enormous questions). Now they say others can go to heaven (yes, even the pagans! No need to send money to baptize pagan babies anymore...sigh.). And, for me, the whole "why did Jesus need to die for my sins, why couldn't God just forgive us" is a question I ask all the time. Asked some lovely Mormon missionaires and they had a whole talk about the justice/mercy continuum and that there is no mercy without justice, and that is why Jesus died (they had very much rehearsed this talk, and were very earnest, I could not "not like" them). That was the closest I ever got to a real explanation, bless their hearts. Oh, I also never believed in transsubstantiation, so, yeah, first communion a bit of a let-down. Wish I could believe but I just can't. And even if I did, why do I need to eat someone every week? Feels...vampire-ish.
its because catholicism is a long term grift and always has been. it isnt an accident that the catholic church is the wealthiest organization on earth.
After Bible school which I felt I was told these were great stories to help you live a good life now and ever more. Then as a tween it turned into seriousness about the Bible written by God himself. Every word taken as literal meaning. Had so many questions that they could not answer. I just had to have “faith”. So I said it doesn’t matter what the word of God says, just have faith, just believe regardless. At that time I realized you could believe in anything. Doesn’t make it right, wrong or indifferent. All man made. There wasn’t anyone or thing directing me. It was always me, you, each of us. I truly felt free. I still chose to be morally kind. I had my values of course from my family which could grow and change. It was all so simple. Relief
Yup. I've been there. Not Any More.
U R SO GREAT
Hi Kristi, have read The Skeptics Annotated Bible? I think you probably have. If not, I recommend it to you.
Your description of these 5 biblical verses was really well done. I have subscribed. Thanks.
I, like you figured out the con about the time I reached 20. It has been said that studying the Bible is a direct path to atheism. Obviously, that is not always true, but it worked for me. During my quest, I found it filled with blood and guts, ambiguities, contradictions, and just silliness. One of my favorites was when poor Job's life and family were totally destroyed over a "Mine is bigger than yours" bet between god and Satan. In the end I concluded that the Bible, and ALL holy books, are entirely based on "Some guy(s) claimed that some other guy said stuff and did magic.". This may be evidence that some guy(s) claimed it, but in no way is evidence that any of those claims hold a shred of truth.
Interesting. I have experienced the exact opposite. The more I study the Bible, the MORE I believe and the stronger my faith grows!
@@kkelleybass So you like the story of Job too? LOL
As I said, the Bible is based entirely on hearsay, just as the Qur'an, The Vedas, and even the Book Of Mormon are all based on hearsay. Maybe talking snakes, talking donkeys, and seven-headed beasts seem real to you, but I can no longer buy that old folklore as real.
I have to ask, what is the "con" and who's running the "con"?
@@rkip123456 Religion is the "con" and many religious leaders are the profiteers.
@@rkip123456did you not watch the vid? The book itself is the con, perpetuated solely by humans. That's why it's always just hearsay and fables. Ever wonder why an almighty God always needs humans to talk for him? Convenient right... 😂
I,m 62 and have lived without churches since I was 10. I just decided that good people were good and bad are bad. I find it gives me freedom to investigate world religions in an unbias manner. Establishments are corrupt.
Scottish Linda I recently read 2 books of 2 Christian men who had contact & long-term friendships with benevolent humanlike e.t. beings!! Stranger At The Pentagon & Visitors From Lanulos!! The benevolent beings are in contact with Creator/Source-God!! The malnevolent beings are "evil" & are part of an alternative reality called the "phantom-matrix" which includes that dude satan & his cohorts & a "cosmic A.I." that controls it all!! The benevolent & malnevolent beings out there in space but also in other dimensions of time & space!! The word angel in the Bible is just another word for intelligent beings who live out in the universe & beyond even up into the realm of eternity!!
Our creator said in Quran:
"Did you think We had created you in vain (without any purpose), and that you would not be brought back to Us?’ (Quran 23:115)
"Exalted is He (God) who holds all control in His hands; who has power over all things; ˹He is the One˺ Who created life and death in order to test which of you is best in deeds. And He is the Almighty, All-Forgiving. who created the seven heavens, one above the other. You will not see any flaw in what the Lord of Mercy creates. Look again! Can you see any flaw?" (Quran 67:1-3 )
"Can there be any doubt about God, the Creator of the heavens and earth? He calls you to Him in order to forgive you your sins and let you enjoy your life until the appointed hour.’ But they said, ‘You are only men like us. You want to turn us away from what our forefathers used to worship. Bring us clear proof then, [if you can].’ (Quran 14:10)
"Do man think he will be left without purpose? Was he not a drop of sperm emitted (in lowly form)? Then he was a clinging clot, and [ God ] created [his form] and proportioned [him] producing from it both sexes, male and female. Is such ˹a Creator˺ unable to bring the dead back to life?"
"We have indeed made whatever is on earth as an adornment for it, in order to test which of them is best in deeds."
"We shall certainly test you with fear and hunger, and loss of property, lives, and crops. But [Prophet], give good news to those who are steadfast. those who say, when afflicted with a calamity, ‘We belong to God and to Him we shall return.’ (Quran 2:155-156)
"Indeed, in the creation of the heavens and the earth and the alternation of the night and the day are signs for those of understanding. those who remember God while standing and sitting and on their sides, and reflect upon the creation of the heavens and the earth: “Our Lord, You did not create this in vain. Highly Exalted are You, so protect us from the punishment of the Fire." (Quran 3:190-191)
"Indeed, We have sent revelation to you ˹O Prophet˺ as We sent revelation to Noah and the prophets after him. We also sent revelation to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants, ˹as well as˺ Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon. And to David We gave the Psalms." (Quran 4:163)
"Those who have believed and whose hearts are assured by the remembrance of God . Verily in the remembrance of God do hearts find rest!"
"O humanity! Indeed, God’s promise is true. So do not let the life of this world deceive you, nor let the Chief Deceiver(Satan) deceive you about God. Surely Satan is an enemy to you, so take him as an enemy. He only invites his followers to become inmates of the Blaze." (Quran 35:5-6)
"And when My servants ask you, [O Muhammad], concerning Me - indeed I am near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls upon Me. So let them respond to Me [by obedience] and believe in Me that they may be [rightly] guided."
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said:
“When God loves one of his servant, He tests him to hear his supplication.”
But since you cannot demonstrate what is good aside from personal conjecture, your opinion is as worthless as anyone else's.
@@DrZookI agree with this.
It's a shame that most people adopt a certain religion because of people around them rather than discovering the truth through personal exploration
Not necessarily all establishments are corrupt! But what is good & what is bad must find it's roots in that of a Holy God & in His definition! I have been around too at 76!
Whatever path you take, Humans can never escape death.
Death and the Judgment of our deeds.
Live by the LAW of GOD:
Love God with all of yourself and Love others and always treat them in the way that you would want them to treat you.
I believe most athiests live more closely to truth than most christians who believe they have a license to sin.
Kristy, As a former Christian, I've been on this journey for the last 3 years. I tried to search for the answers/truth everywhere. Im so glad I found your channel. I hope people will be awakened sooner or later.
I had an intervention from a Church I belonged to for questioning the pastor . They actually said I would be escorted out if I didn't conform to their dogma . I caught them and pointed out contradictions of the Bible and their ways
Well that makes sense god hates when people do things like THINK or REASON or heaven forbid QUESTION something.
What is that contradiction?
you've not understood what THE CHURCH is? all believers in CHRIST, are the Church, his bride. Only believers who LOVE JESUS, accept his authority, are the CHURCH . I would never pop along to a catholic-protestant church? as many people there are DODGY. The Churches? on earth are infiltrated. Like the BORGIAS, the MEDICIS infiltrated the Catholic system. You are more likely to meet Satan in a so called Church than in any place? Satan allows such places to exist? to flag up who's side are you on? If you are a budding christian, there is no place worse than a man made church. I've seen witchcraft in such places. I've seen dodgy priests? who use their authority to molest. Its not KOSHER. God alone picks out his PRIESTS and KINGS, and we assemble in heaven. The early church fathers, said we should meet in fellowship. We come together to pray, to chat. Not to form a CHURCH? so METHODIST? CATHOLIC? BAPTIST? is all wrong. we should abandon every such establishment. We have a bible, we have our middleman-daysman JESUS. that is all you need. If you want a club? join an art class or chess club. Do not feed RELIGION. They are CLERGY. False teachers. God chooses his priests. It was the priesthood that had Christ executed. So do not go near such places. You only will get spiritual attacks. Already you are having arguments. People accuse you? No one can accuse a son of the father. If you believe in CHRIST. you have no sin. You are accepting GRACE. If i say to any believer.. you are a bad Christian... i'm at fault. You do not accuse any one? when you are at fault as well. No one is a paragon of virtue.
@@jamesmanm3623for God so loved the world that he gave his son and whoever believes will have eternal life. Faith without works is dead. Thou shall not kill. God regretted making man and killed everyone. God sent an Angel to kill babies. God sent 2 bears to kill 42 kids for making fun of a bald guy. Here’s some contradictions.
The Bible has no contradictions. People have misunderstandings. All so-called contradictions were shown to be illegitimate by those who know the ins and outs of biblical culture and language.
Thanks for helping people escape the spell and fear based control of the weapon book “helly babble”
Gen Z: "I got to love my little brother? WHAAT!!!"
Oh how glad I am coming across your channel. My deconversion happened nearly 15 years ago and yes, it was like coming up and gasping for fresh air. Keep it up, Kristi, we desperately need some articulation of clarity and sound logic in believing the things that we do.
I don't go to churches any longer but I didn't stop thinking either. 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
My deconversion story.
Heaven is for people that believe, hell is for people that do not believe.
I'm fine with that, so, I decided that I am no longer people, I am now a gila monster instead.
@@JariSatta Laugh all you want, hell Is all to real (enjoy your "comedy routine) you will find out in the end
@@lilajagears8317 You're just people
@@JariSatta How profound.
My name is Leah and my mother told me it was a biblical name, so as a good 7-8 year old Catholic girl, I ran to my Bible and looked it up to read about my biblical namesake. Omg! Reading the story of Leah’s life was traumatizing! There is nothing about her life story that suggests the existence of a loving god! It was the beginning of the end of my faith. The Bible is some scary sh-t!
Thank you for sharing your stories! I’m all in!
So many christians use the “cafeteria” approach, picking the best parts of the Bible & ignoring the horrors (slavery, genocide, homophobia, sexism, etc), yet still believe the Bible speaks truth. If every person is allowed to pick and chose, then how could the Bible be the moral standard? Instead each person chooses only what seems reasonable to them, by applying their own individual moral standard. Proving the Bible doesn’t give us values, it only provides a selection of values to chose from. No wonder there are thousands of different versions of christianity, all believing their version and their version alone is the true path to heaven.
Nothing perfect about that perfect word!
_There is nothing about her life story that suggests the existence of a loving god!_
Perhaps you should read it again? The stories in the Bible often are not meant to dun into us the concept of a 'loving God,' but rather to show us God's love in spite of the wrong that we do (as in the way that both Jacob and Laban treated Leah). Leah bore six of the twelve ancestors of Israel, including Levi, the head of the priestly tribe, and Judah, from whom descended David and Jesus. Not bad, and I would guess that Leah would consider that worth the trouble. Trouble there was, but the end of it is good.
_So many christians use the “cafeteria” approach, picking the best parts of the Bible & ignoring the horrors_
Only some, and they are joined by atheists and agnostics who do precisely the same, picking the horrors perpetrated by people and ignoring the good that God brings out of it all --- like the Crucifixion followed by the Resurrection.
_If every person is allowed to pick and chose, then how could the Bible be the moral standard?_
'Pick and choose'? The Bible never says that, and people usually know better but do it anyway, which is what people usually do in all situations. It causes many problems, including is, say, marriage.
_ Proving the Bible doesn’t give us values, it only provides a selection of values to chose from_
No, it only 'proves' that people pick and choose. It says nothing about the Bible. You think of 'morality' as somehow natural or amenable to us moderns, but it is not. Most if not all the morality of which you approve is from the Bible. Most of that is what God has instilled in us from the beginning.
_ No wonder there are thousands of different versions of christianity_
Not at all. We are just varied, like the rest of the world. We all have a journey, we all walk it at different paces along different paths because not all snowflakes are identical, not all flowers are identical, not all blades of grass or stripes on zebras, even the apostles and saints are all different. Why not the rest of us?
_Nothing perfect about that perfect word!_
I think that that has the wrong definition of 'word.' Jesus is the Word.
@@craigsmith1443 and the real word is even simpler "Mythology"
@@stevesheppardmusic 'Mythology' is not at all 'simple.'
@@craigsmith1443 What evidence do you have that a god exists? The bible is a book of claims, not evidence.
@@shaqyardie8105 _The bible is a book of claims, not evidence_
No, Jesus is the claim. The Bible is evidence. So are the lives of the saints.
Thank you!
Kristy how about In The Bigining God Created and so on so who was there to witness and write down events? Also Adam and Eve what Race were they?
God was there in the beginning and God told Moses what to write. We don't Know as the word does not tell us, but remember, the population was started over with Noah.
This is exactly what made me first express doubt in The Bible: READING it. I found stuff in there that totally went against my understanding of morality. But you shared some horrifying ones I hadn't heard. Just despicable stuff. It was proof to me that at the Bible is at the very least, contorted by human awfulness.
You can read it, but come up with wrong conclusions about what you read in the Bible. Those verses you read, can easily be taken out of context.
@@kevinmalone3210 Yes, I am sure that when "god" ordered the Israelites to totally destroy the Canaanites, I am just taking this open contradiction of the commandment to not kill out of context.
"I found stuff in there that totally went against my understanding of morality." By far the biggest reason people choose to not believe eternal truth as revealed in the Bible. But if you are unable to perfectly describe morality, how can you claim to accurately determine if something is moral or not? The "I don't know exactly what it is but I can tell you what it's not" approach used by you and many other commenters here is completely bogus. If you do not have a completely flawless understanding of morality, you have no place judging what is or is not moral.
So, since none of us have a completely flawless understanding of morality, what option remains? Morality has a source, just as all things do. We must find and align ourselves with the source, not so we can proclaim to now be the source ourselves, but so we can have our thoughts and deeds saturated in that source. The main problem is that most people reject the true source of morality since it seems to grate against their flawed concept of it. Talk about cyclical reasoning!
"I can't accept the Bible as the true source of morality!"
"Why?"
"Because it doesn't agree with my understanding of morality!"
"Do you have a perfect understanding of morality?"
"Well, no...but I’m searching - trying to keep an open mind."
"So, wouldn't you expect the true source of morality, once you find it, to present numerous contradictions when compared to your imperfect concept of morality?"
"Huh...what? Okay, maybe, but I know the Bible isn't moral!"
"And why is that?"
"Because it doesn't agree with my understanding of morality!"
(ad nauseam)
OMT; the two main sources of morality are love (compassion, if you prefer) and mercy. Once you find the source of those, you will be able to better understand morality.
@@aceragain Most everyone knows what morality is. It is the social code of acceptable and unacceptable behaviors in any given society, with many and sometimes confusing variants depending on region, social class and church. For some, a skirt above X height is immoral. For others it is immoral for people to cheat on their taxes, or lie about important things. Some find it immoral for women to appear in public uncovered, or to do any work on the sabbath. Our societies are so diverse and complex that it is difficult to know for sure what is considered correct. There is absolutely not anyone who has a "completely flawless understanding of morality," but as members of a society, we all have a "place judging what is or is not moral." Love and mercy have nothing to do with morality, just society-wide norms of behavior.
@@stevepierce6467 "Love and mercy have nothing to do with morality..." It is no wonder you are so confused about what morality is if you truly believe this. While your refusal to recognize that there is an absolute source of morality affects your life (and those around you), it does not invalidate that fact.
I started to question my faitjh when my awakening started. Now, I've stopped going to church, and I was very devoted. My church colleagues say I'm attacked by the spirit of unbelief. I see it as a manipulative and coercive I just don't submit to anything that is fear based!
hi christerrence
I just started going to church after some 30 years of not going. I don't know how long that will last, because my observation is, that most christians/churches operate on fear of hell and collecting brownie points for heaven.
I also noticed over and over, that they just read over and ignore certain controversial verses. Which most of you guys do as well. You also cling to the favorite dogmas of 'christianity" , namely heaven and hell. Check out
verses like 1 timothy 6:16.
uh, no, you are not immortal.
or Malachi 4 or some verses in Psalm 37 and on and on. you die and dead means dead. And in the end, everything bad and evil is being destroyed, in a big fire and afterwards nothing is left of them but ashes. check your bible. You are not going to heaven when you die.
45 years ago or so. there was an offer of I believe 5000 bucks, if you can show a scripture that says that the saved will go to heaven, or that unbelievers will go to an everburning hell. The money was never claimed.
Once you realize there is no such thing as an everburning hell, things shift around a bit.
On this planet evil is actually necessary to teach you a lot of things. Did you ever read in the bible of getting your reward in this world? Apply this to pharao and etc.. Riches and palaces and power and girls and who knows. And afterwards it is all over for him. Just like you atheists believe.
Check out Dr Michael Heiser on the unseen realm.
Why did God give his son and why did he have to not only die but to die on the cross?
Certainly not to keep you out of hell.
@@rosihayes8254
_"Why did God give his son..."_
The Bible makes it clear that a human descendant of David, not God, was the father of Jesus. The terms, "seed", "flesh", "root", "fruit of his loins", and "offspring" mean that Jesus was the biological son of Joseph.
Matthew 1:1
"This is the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David."
John 6:42
"They said, "Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, ‘I came down from heaven’?”
Acts 2:30
"Therefore being a prophet [David], and knowing that God had sworn an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne."
Hebrews 2:16
"For he [Jesus] took not the nature of angels, but the seed of Abraham."
Acts 13:23
"Of David's seed hath God, according to his promise, raised unto Israel a savior, Jesus."
Romans 1:3
"Concerning his son Jesus Christ, who was made of the seed of David according to the flesh."
2 Timothy 2:8
"Remember that Jesus Christ is the seed of David."
Revelation 22:16
"I, Jesus have sent my angel to testify unto you these things in the churches; I am the root (progeny) and the offspring of David."
John 1:45
“We have found the one Moses wrote about in the Law, and about whom the prophets also wrote; Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.”
Matthew 9:27
"When Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, thou son of David, have mercy on us."
Jesus had brothers and sisters (not half-brothers and half-sisters):
Galatians 1:19
"I saw none of the other apostles--only James, the Lord's brother."
Mark 6:3
"Is this not the carpenter, the son of Mary and brother of James, Joses, Judas, and Simon? And are His sisters not here with us?"
Matthew 13:55-56
“Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? Aren't all his sisters with us?"
@@rosihayes8254
_"Why did God give his son..."_
God stated multiple times that he has multiple sons, multiple "begotten" sons, and multiple first-born sons, presumably with his wives, Asherah, Aholah and Aholibah.
Jeremiah 31:9
Ephraim is God's first-born sone:
"For I am the father of Israel, and Ephraim is my first-born."
2 Samuel 7:13-14
Solomon is God's son:
"I will be his father, and he (Solomon) shall be my son."
Luke 3:38
Adam is God's son:
"Adam, who is the son of God."
Psalm 2:7-8
David (the king set on Mount Zion) is God's begotten son:
"Thou art my son; this day have I begotten thee."
Genesis 6:2
"That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."
Job 38:6-7
God's sons were present when the universe was created:
"When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy."
Job 1:6
"One day the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them."
The earliest account of primogeniture to be widely known in modern times involved Isaac's son Jacob being born second (Genesis 25:26) and Isaac's son, Esau being born first (Genesis 25:25) and entitled to the birthright, but eventually selling it to Isaac's second son, Jacob, for a small amount of food (Genesis 25:31-3).
Exodus 4:22
Jacob is God's son and first-born:
"Thus says the Lord; Israel is my son, my first-born."
Ezekiel 23:4-20
"They were mine (God's) and gave birth to sons and daughters. For Aholibah lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like the genitals of donkeys and whose ejaculate were like the ejaculate of horses."
@@rosihayes8254
_"Why did God give his son and why did he have to not only die but to die on the cross?"_
Christians believe that God sent one of his sons to be tortured and killed as a sacrificial offering (a practice adopted from Paganism).
They worship this father who sent one of his sons to be tortured and executed (and literally called it a sacrifice) as part of a ritual intended to appease a god. In Christian theology, atonement refers to the forgiving of sin through God's sacrifice of Jesus.
Paul created Christianity in 48 AD and this is how he put it:
Romans 8:32
"He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all."
1 Corinthians 5:7
"Christ our passover is sacrificed for us."
Romans 3:25
"God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement."
Romans 5:8
"God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us."
Hebrews 10:10
"We are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ."
God our creator is Holy above our understanding. It's true man and religion mess things up but please don't give up on God. Yes our self will and sin gets in the way but he is maturing us believers so please don't give up on Him. He will help you through this life and lead you to eternal peace.
The gnostics’ account of the world tend to make more sense to me. Also, the Theravada Buddhist teachings tend to make sense.
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And we see how it continues today. I can’t imagine why people hate Israel and why Israel has such a high opinion of itself with passages like this.
And we see young, secular (I’m sure some are Christian’s though) kids coming out in empathy and sympathizing with the Palestinians while Christian’s use the vileness of the Bible as their security blanket to justify the atrocities they love.
Thank you for pointing out the absurdity of John 3:16. That verse, and the idea that human kind needed a savior at all, was one of the original, nagging doubts I had when I accepted Christ in my early 20s (took me 35 years to fully deconvert). If a God is omniscient, already knows who is saved, can turn people away from or toward himself, why the need for a savior???
I wish Kristi would have discussed the verse John 3:14 as well: "Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up." Most Christians don't discuss this peculiar verse. Though Moses supposedly was commanded by God not to make idols shaped like animals or humans, Moses made a bronze snake and put it on a pole as a way to heal people who had been bitten my a snake. Later in the Bible (2 Kings 18:4) we are told that King Hezekiah destroyed idols and altars and poles, and he smashed the bronze snake Moses had made. If ever Christians find this out, they should say, "Huh? What?" In verses 3:13 and 14, Jesus seems to refer to himself as the Son of Man, and then in verses 3:16 through 18, Jesus seems to refer to himself as the Son of God. By this point Christians should say, "Huh? What?" So when Christians solely focus on the verse John 3:16, they totally ignore these other puzzling and contradictory questions.
@@harrydecker8731 The list of controversial and contradictory stuff is pretty long in the Bible. She couldn't have listed everything. For me, my deconstruction started with "if you don't accept Jesus as your savior, your punishment is eternal hell". I mean... really? Furthermore, the concept of "salvation" was mind boggling. Why do you need to put someone on the cross and have him suffer and agonize in order to save mankind? How does accepting that person as a "personal savior" atone you from your sins? Another thing that was strange for me, was : why didn't Jesus leave anything in writing himself? ....and so on...
@@harrydecker8731 I don't ignore those scriptures....and I'm a Christian...she can't discuss because she doesn't understand....because if she did she won't discuss because it points to Christ becoming the curse for sins of the world and that would support the God is who HE says is and Jesus is God.....read all if John 1
@@manon562 If one studies all historical religions, one realizes that most of them via a figurehead or priesthood tell the people that they will be cursed by God or the gods if they don't obey certain commands, and that they will be blessed by God or the gods if they do obey certain commands. For certain, the people had to offer a gift or a sacrifice to the priest to prove their sincerity and to be redeemed. Animals sacrifices were common. In extreme conditions, human sacrifice, particularly virgins and children, were required. For the most part, religion was a racket that allowed a privileged class of priests (and sometimes priestesses) to enjoy a comfortable sheltered existence in a temple while the working class, who brought the gifts and sacrifices, were out there toiling in the hot sun raising crops and cattle while fighting off wild beasts. Judaism and Christianity were among many such religions that employed fear and guilt to get the people to do what they wanted.
Thank you so much for articulating how ridiculous the concept of “belief determines heaven or hell”. It was the biggest shift in my deconstruction.
Deconstruction or destruction?
@@elucidativo7 Oooh that is a cute one, one of your internet pastors come up with that one for you?
@@xXEGPXx Everything will fall into place as it should
Forgive us our sins AS WE forgive those who TRESPASS AGAINST US. Only God can judge you but your salvation is entirely in your own hands.
@@TrueNoviceThere is no such thing as salvation. The afterlife does not exist. Did you watch the video? The Bible is a preposterous thing to base your life on.
You make excellent points here.No one can force themself to believe anything. Especially in the case where there is no solid evidence.
How are you handling Homelander's PR nightmare?
I remember years ago my then pastor who was also teaching one of my accredited Bible classes told me that the Bible technically doesn’t definitively condemn slavery. He said he didn’t preach details like that on Sunday because most wouldn’t understand, would get offended and might leave his church and question their faith. I think that was one of those milestones where I was like “wtf God, really? This is supposed to be the greatest book through which you chose to reveal the ultimate truth to the world?” Definitely was a tipping point for me.
You think you're not a slave? Interesting!
We are all a slave to something in this world. I'd rather be under one that has my back on death. You are a slave to the people that love you, the money that keeps you, and the environment that comforts you.
The pastors know the truth. They cannot be trusted.. Charlatans 💵💵💵
Check out Slavery and True Liberty, John MacArthur.
It's disgusting.
@@JP-ec9rl back at ya 😉
All of these passages I am familiar with and they also helped in my deconstruction as well. There is another Bible Passage about rape, which says if a woman is raped in the city and nobody knows she should be put to death because clearly, she did not scream: Deuteronomy 22:25-27
The Christian denomination I was raised in would shun any female members who reported rape if they deemed she did not look like she fought hard enough. They would use this passage to justify it. So a perfectly innocent member who was raped or sexually assaulted would get disciplined and condemned and disfellowshipped for the crime of fornication because some male elders decided they do not look physically damaged enough.
In my later work in raising awareness of Gender Based Violence here in the Caribbean, I would learn about trauma responses to sexual assault which include freezing up and getting into a catatonic state. Not all women fight and scream while raped. Many just freeze and mentally detach. How many women were killed under that PRIMITIVE, MISOGYNISTIC, TRIBAL law written by men?
The Bible Passages detailing the genocide of all the Canaanite people came up in an impactful movie about Jews during the Holocaust who while in the concentration camps put Yahweh on trial. They concluded at the end of it Yahweh is an EVIL deity. Here is a clip from it. It is VERY moving. th-cam.com/video/a3OaCuspPaE/w-d-xo.html
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
That isnt what Deutronomy 22:25-27 says, it says the man should die if she is raped.
NIV:
"25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her."
@@mrlacksoriginality4877 Deuteronomy 22:23-24
@@jakegreen5081 "Deuteronomy 22:23-24 New International Version 23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death-the young woman because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife."
@jake green that has to do with adultery.
@@toydigger No it isn't. Deuteronomy 22:23 The woman is *not* married, but engaged. Deuteronomy 22:22 is a married woman.
I appreciate your cogent analysis of scripture passages. And it seems to me that the Christian testament teaches that no one ever dies-- that all people live forever, either in heaven or in hell. And the Quran states that those suffering in hell will beg god to end their suffering by letting them die, and god will deny them their request. The viciousness revealed in such scriptures is worthy neither of god nor of human beings.
I recall as a very young child in Sunday school being told that only Christians who were saved and repentant would go to heaven- and that bothered me because my grandfather was Jewish as were three of my best friends. I didn’t want to believe that this same god that created everything that ever existed would condemn ‘His’ own creation to Hades simply because they believed differently. I have had to undergo treatment for Religious Trauma Syndrome due to some of my early church experiences
I was a much more progressive christian and came at my loss of faith on a very different way, but that first thing you mentioned was how i decided that even if the god of the bible existed, i shouldn't worship it because its clearly a psychopath or a narcissist.
If a psychologist were to honestly look at his characteristics he would technically be both, plus several other mental conditions.
@@jonjeskie5234 God would be the prime example of someone suffering from the God complex ^^
@jonjeskie5234 I mean I would be a narcissist if I created everything and everybody worships me 24/7
@@omariwashington2570 that's cause you're a fallible human who needs validation. An omnipotent God shouldn't have this problem.
Pessimism is my personal shield from the world's crappiest traits.
“Intentionally creates people to go to hell”. Exactly. I had a problem with that for a long time.
if only you have an idea how much satan has,flipped the world upside down you would have an idea why GOD is angry go to your search bar and search ;the true manifestation of evil, start from there
In Romans 9, Paul is talking to the Jews. Many Jews believed that only they could get into heaven and gentiles could not. Paul is telling the Jews that God can save anyone he wants. He says who are the Jews to question Gods mercy. Hope this help 🙏
That world view only applies if you are Calvinist. Most Christians don't believe that falsity.
God did not create people just to go to hell, but he knew who would and would not choose his gift of love....free will remember?
God did not intentionally create people to go to hell. God created people. Yes he knew that most of us would choose hell over him. Would it be right if God only created people who would obey him?
If the government had a way of knowing how a person would turn out, would it be right of them to kill every child that would grow to disobey them?
can I have songs can you get more detail on what you're talking and Deuteronomy and what was talked to before you bring up those verses and Deuteronomy because I think you might be taking some of them at a contacts I could be wrong I just want to understand more cuz you're teaching me something new
When I was a child I thought when I get to heaven I will remove part of the solid gold street and keep it with me and then I'd be rich. (no lie)
I was raised as a Christian.
At 20, I studied Buddhism, and became a Buddhist !
I didn't fully reject Christianity, but listening to your interpretation of the scriptures, I now wonder why I didn't !
I believe many of the sayings attributed to Jesus, could very well be Buddhist sayings !
Yep, at 76, I'm still a work in progress ! 😃 😁 😄
They may have been Buddhist. There are stories of a charismatic man who visited and was killed by his own people.
There are the lost years of Jesus' life. Wise men from the East came at his birth and gave him presents including Gold which may have allowed them to survive in Egypt. He may have gone there to thank them. He also had a trade masonry/carpentry.
@@dolliscrawford280 That does not sound remotely possible. The three wise men were most likely of persian/of zoroastrian descent. And Jesus was definetly not a Buddhist, he was a Jew.
I feel the same way about Jesus' teachings. Don't trust the book in general, but Jesus had a lot of good ideas to share. I like how Thomas Jefferson made his own version of the bible which basically cut out everything but words specifically attributed to Jesus.
I love how you said, “I just came up with a more moral solution.” Because it proves that morality is not the sole domain of religion. It’s often the main cause for immoral acts. Thank you for sharing your experience and thoughts on this subject. It’s the most frustrating part of discussing these things with religious people. Society supporting and not condemning victims of assault.👍
Imagine that 😊👍
Your first two sentences make no sense. This was actually one of the largest fallacies in the video. Morality does not exist without a transcendent foundation. What does "MORE moral" mean for someone who doesn't believe in a god? To what external standard of morality are you referring? In the beginning of the video, she says something like 'I no longer look for absolute truth.' If you are skeptical about absolute truth, there can be no MORE or LESS moral things. It could only be your opinion.
I totally 💯 percent agreed with everything you've said all 5 reasons enough said
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John 3:16
Christians are butt hurt
Old Testament: "Kill EVERYONE!"
New Testament: "Just kidding guys, love everyone."
During the old Testament there was no holy Spirit so ofc everything was much eviler or whatever ur tryna prove here~
@@-_.Chimamaka._- God commanded human and animal sacrifices, you saying god didn't have the holy spirit either?
@@xXEGPXx Not at all I'm trying to say that he didn't give humans the holy Spirit yet so they had to pay with their blood but when Jesus came and gave his life for us he paid everything with HIS blood that's why we are saved. Also after rapture the holy Spirit will leave the earth and it said that the only way to be for given might be to pay with blood again *btw the only human sacrifice God commanded was a test of faith and was never completed*
@@-_.Chimamaka._- Evil that he created.
I am a Christian and I’ve never been discouraged from asking questions. Sometimes I get the answers just by asking, sometimes I get an answer months later randomly, and sometimes I wonder if I’ll ever get an answer and that’s ok (the book of Job makes this point). Often times my questions stem from when I find what feels like a contradiction in morality in the Bible. It doesn’t align with my understanding of morality because that has been partially shaped by culture, not God. If I don’t get an answer I agree with, it causes me to further investigate the Bible and try to understand God’s character better. Sorry there’s so many people here who were made to feel like questions are bad - it was wrong for that to be imposed on you. I can only imagine the impression that would have left on me and how that might have affected my outlook on God, so it’s a valid point of frustration. The Christians around me love questions, philosophical discussions, skepticism and poking holes. It’s ok to ask questions. They allow us to gain n deeper knowledge and get closer to the heart and character of God.
I couldn't agree more and it is really encouraging to read comments like this! I purposely watch videos such as these because I just want to gain deeper understanding in why people think the way they do. I just want to truly love others and be obedient to God, reaching others and planting seeds. Thank you for your comment, I hope that you have a wonderful rest of your week, much love to you!
@@aubreybeardsley8858 your comment just encouraged me, too! I was hesitant at first but watched it as well, because I want to understand the hearts of those around me, like you do. Carry on my weary traveler - love to you as well, and anyone reading this!! 🥰😘
It's good to hear that the questions are welcome. What are your answers? How would you respond to this video?
I think in general this is sort of fake openness. It’s sort of false openness to make it look like questions and skepticism and poking holes is welcome and encouraged. You’re actually not open to being wrong. You pretend like you’re open to skepticism but you’re not. Any contradiction that appears to be a problem, rather than investigate that contradiction with complete openness being willing to give up your beliefs as a result of that contradiction, you will go into that absolutely closed off.
You will go into believing that since God and the Bible is 100% true, this contradiction must, absolutely must have a solution that affirms the conclusion you already believed before you were confronted with that contradiction.
Then when the answers you get from pastors or theologians or internet research seems kinda weak and sort of like a cop out, you’ll accept that weak answer as the solution to the contradiction. The reason is that you were never open in the first place to Christianity being wrong. It was never an option. You will welcome skepticism and not be threatened by it because you’re already committed to a conclusion.
It’s fake open mindedness. It’s close mindedness masquerading as open mindedness
@@rodniki14
I did a response on my channel
The bible has been "cherry picked" by many to fashion a lifestyle of their liking while overlooking the parts they dont like. There is so much contradiction in the bible but is overlooked and explained in a way as to side-step the issue. Some people have personal reasons to believe in the bible and that brings them comfort which I will never try to take away from them but hope that they show me the same respect when it comes to my resons for not believing......to each their own.
@@jessicaras4540Please forgive me for not understanding fully. Could you explain why you chose this verse?
Which contradiction in the Bible do you think is the worst contradiction?
@@andreweff1284worst? They are all equally bad. One of my favorites occurs in all 4 gospels where the empty tomb story occurs each gospel tells a different series of events including different women, the women seeing and doing different things at the tomb, doing different things after the fact, and not all of it could occur at the same time. In one gospel the women don't tell anyone about the empty tomb while in others they tell the disciples just as an example.
@@avf326
Sorry but I think you can find better answers in the next text:
Topic: A loving God would never reject a sincere heart searching for direction from its creator!
"O My servants, I have forbidden oppression for Myself and have made it forbidden amongst you, so do not oppress one another. O My servants, all of you are astray except for those I have guided, so seek guidance of Me and I shall guide you, O My servants, all of you are hungry except for those I have fed, so seek food of Me and I shall feed you. O My servants, all of you are naked except for those I have clothed, so seek clothing of Me and I shall clothe you. O My servants, you sin by night and by day, and I forgive all sins, so seek forgiveness of Me and I shall forgive you. O My servants, you will not attain harming Me so as to harm Me, and will not attain benefitting Me so as to benefit Me. O My servants, were the first of you and the last of you, the human of you and the jinn of you to be as pious as the most pious heart of any one man of you, that would not increase My kingdom in anything. O My servants, were the first of you and the last of you, the human of you and the jinn of you to be as wicked as the most wicked heart of any one man of you, that would not decrease My kingdom in anything. O My servants, were the first of you and the last of you, the human of you and the jinn of you to rise up in one place and make a request of Me, and were I to give everyone what he requested, that would not decrease what I have, any more that a needle decreases the sea if put into it. O My servants, it is but your deeds that I reckon up for you and then recompense you for, so let him who finds good, praise Allah, and let him who finds other than that, blame no one but himself."
God is not a dead man!
Utilize your brain to uncover life's purpose. Reject faiths that ignore facts or lack coherence. Foster clear thinking by reflecting alone, free from external influence.
@@mwperk02because none of the writers were eyewitnesses for the empty tomb.
Thank you.
My big thing has been: if we are essentially spiritual toddlers, and we are here being taught by other spiritual toddlers (cuz even a long human life is still toddlerhood at best in the scheme of history), on this planet filled with pain and disaster and loss, and our father is standing outside - letting us bump around blindly, only occasionally answering SOME calls for help with small whispers, but with no reliability, why would WE be to blame if at the end of our time here we aren’t sold on the thing some other toddlers told us about that father?
Why would an all good, all loving, all knowing father punish billions of toddlers over thousands of years of toddlers for the fact that the original toddlers messed up? And why would he punish them eternally in hellfire if they don’t believe he’s all good, all knowing, and all loving? It just doesn’t make sense.
And if we were given minds that can understand - it should make sense… but I guess maybe I’m just one of the souls that this “all loving” father has blinded so I can suffer eternal damnation despite my actual inability to see… right? Cuz punishing people for eternity because despite their sincere efforts they didn’t land on the “right” answer is what a beneficent king would do… right? 🙄
(I’m a theist. That will never change. I just can’t force myself to believe logical inconsistencies which seems like what you have to do to be a Christian - or really part of any Abrahamic tradition).
We are not punished for Adam and Eve's sins, we are punished for our own. They introduced sin into the world. Also, we are not as innocent as we may seem, even the best of us is guilty of wrong, which God cannot accept. And it's not that we are punished simply for not believing in Him, it's for rejecting the One who created us and deeply loves us and wants us to be with Him forever. Hell is a hard pill to swallow, but it is simply where people who choose to live life on their own terms go, instead of God's. He has the authority to do that. Sometimes it's hard for us to understand that from our limited perspective and it's hard to understand everything, but it is undeniable that the complexity and beauty in the world can come from anything other than a Designer, and Christianity makes the most sense in telling us about Him, but only when you read through the Bible and call out to God. I think you're asking the right questions. I urge you to seek your local non-denominational church and ask away.
@maschou333 so miscarriage and cancer and pain and suffering and meaningless loss and unanswered prayers are punishment for our sins?
Holy crap... I was starting to think I was the only one. Admittedly, this is your first video I have watched and I am glad I did. Thank you for the courage to post this and videos like this.
I reached this point in my faith around the same age... 30 something years ago. And also went on a search for the truth that took me on quite a journey geologically as well as spiritually. I find it amazing that most Christians never fully read the bible for themselves and allow others to selectively tell them what it says and means. No one wants to think critically about what it says.
Also most Christians never know or realize that the Roman catholic church, when it assimilated the church (yes ROME) In the 3rd century AD and cut, I think it was 33 books from the Bible, and decided what would be "canon". The infancy gospel of Jesus was one of these... which puzzled me why they cut it. It was a beautiful book which illustrated that Jesus was a human with Devine gifts.. and subject to human emotions. And covered all the time the Bible left out... from the Manger til he re-emerged at age 12 in the temple to shame the pharisees. Many troubling books were also cut which called the narrative into question that Rome wanted the Bible to put forth.
It is also funny to me how many "Christian holidays" are pagan holidays repurposed to draw favor from more non-Christians.
I applaud you for this video and others. Keep them coming.. consider me a new subscriber :) you enlightened me on something I had somehow missed tho. I never could reconcile where the Bible says "God is the same today, yesterday and forever"... I was like "no, God in the old testament was angry and vengeful, but that was different Than the agenda put forth in the new testament... but I see in your shared verses... that no, he is the same. 😮 it did also always come thru to me that the old testament was never meant to apply to "gentiles", it was supposed to be only for God's chosen people, the Jewish people. And it wasn't til Jesus' sacrifice that gentiles could be "saved". But that is neither here nor there... I am actually agreeing with what you said.. merely offering a little bit of what I have also come to understand after my own 30+ years of searching for truth. My sister gets so angry at me when I say "i believe in God, but I don't believe in Christians" (couldn't tell you exactly who God is or concisely definte him or her... but I do believe in god) anyways.. thanks for hearing my thoughts
Try learning about Islam by reading the Qur'an. I'll clarify any difficulty you may have
@@fareedosman516 I read part of the Quran until I got too disgusted. The Quran has even more insane bullsh*t than the Bible. My "difficulty" is that it is stupid.
Read Genesis!
The Qur'an will clarify any questions you may have. İt is God's Last Message to humanity. Don't take my word for it, listen yourself and read
I agree with a lot of this. I grew up southern Baptist and only began to really investigate how I felt in the last 40 years. I’m 85. I am now an agnostic. I have friends who are SRF which has a lot in common with Hinduism. They are very welcoming and acknowledge christ as a religious leader.
Really appreciate your story and laying it all out clearly. I was raised in the fundamentalist Baptist church for 18 years. I'm 22 now and have slowly been deconstructing (more so de-converting) since attending college, reading/watching more lectures, and ultimately stepping out of my bubble. A painful process to be sure, given how it's shaped every aspect of my childhood but I've found that the search for truth can be far more rewarding.
I was you 40 years ago. It is difficult to deconstruct and get past the psychological and emotion abuse of Christianity. However, it is wonderful and rewarding. Hang in there and know that you are not alone. There are huge numbers of us out there.
Virikemen, Keep learning and find the brave type of critical thinking. Asking why is this? Or maybe am I asking the wrong questions? Hear the voices of others from both sides see where the voice of reason resides. Good luck on your journey sir (the world needs those for question).
It is a tough journey. A big fear is hell. But remember, Christians don’t worry about going to the hell of other religions. So, for the same reasons, you need not worry about the Christian hell.
This is why I'm a Bahai because it made sense to me that all of the religions are from God. He sent messengers to all cultures to develop them in a progressive way. However some cultures were undeveloped so many of their teachings were man-made and reflected the state of their thinking. Other messengers were sent to help develop their sense of justice.
@@rogerrasmussen6620An invisible creature that is malevolent is hardly something that can dispense fair rational justice.
The god of the Bible has killed everything that has ever died, has killed trillions upon trillions of life forms on this planet through disease and murder and starvation and floods and by being ripped apart and predated upon... This malevolent creature killed billions over absolute trivia including children. It takes some serious warping of the mind to think the universe's biggest serial killer is something to be admired and worshipped.
Curious about your take on this. (Roughly) Do not partake of the fruit of the tree of knowledge. We should remain uneducated? Or if that only relates to the knowledge of good and evil how can I be blamed for anything I do that was bad?
This video is brilliant and wow wow wow so are you. Thanks for the content and also explaining your thoughts!
As a little kid in church when i heard the Noah's flood story, I said to myself "God killed everyone? Then he is a mass murderer! I dont like him."
Not ONLY that...the only way to repopulate would mean INCEST for generations!
Nope.
Instead, there were masses of people who refused to obey God.
God gave the warning, and nobody listened except Noah and his family.
Instead, you should be thanking God and Noah. Because we are all descendants of Noah after the great flood reset.
Uh huh. Sure 😂
Yep, and that every "kind" of animal from all over the world came to the Middle East and entered the ark in suspended animation or something for 40 days/nights. I thought, this can't be true. My kid brain couldn't make sense of it.
In later years people would say it's because no one on the earth obeyed God and I thought, including the babies, toddlers, and ones still in the womb? Hmm, something doesn't add up.
Just because he didn't like what was going on. ah Christians.
I was a Christian for 25 years. I fully understand your questions and even asked hundreds more myself. At every turn I found contradictions within the pages of a book that’s supposed to be infallible. At this point in my life I believe it has some cultural and historical references filled with a whole lot of man-made stories and rules. My husband and I discuss all the time how the Bible reads a lot like a book of myths.
After asking the heartfelt question, “WHO AM I?”, I got more in touch with myself and came back around to remembering what my dad used to always say when I was growing up, “can we even prove god exists?”
Christianity has an answer to that question but are they right???!!! 🤔🤔🤔🤨
Every other religion has their own answer as well. And each religion says that all the other ones are cult, of the devil, leading people astray, wrong, etc. yeah, you know the mantra.
So what makes Christian’s so arrogant and self-righteous that they are the only ones who know “the truth.” I used to be one of them. Looking back, I am ashamed at myself for being that kind of woman.
What I can say is that my life has been 100% more peaceful and better since I left it behind and all the struggles that I couldn’t find answers to as a Christian, I have now found answers. And I’m more in touch with myself and who I am. That’s a value I wouldn’t trade for anything.
Life is a journey. It’s a quest of finding your own way. And now I’m all about encouraging people to search for their own truths and find their own path. But what I constantly find, mostly 99.999% of the time, is that a Christian just can’t seem to let others find their own way. They always have to pray that you will return to the truth.
Man created God in his image
@@undrwatropium3724 Why to give man = short for human. (us) so much credit? Is it not visible that we cannot carrie this "burden"?
If you or any souls have ? marks or complains about the bible. SOULS, GOD IS LIVING, up, in HIS KINGDOM, able to hear the souls who seek after truth. Why do you not PRAY? Into what heaven(KINGDOM) you all want to go if not speaking with THE KING? Like you and I through internet speak with one another, the same deal with GOD, be alone and pray.
James 1:5 - If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
How am i to give answers after answers? Am i not also just a dust who`s been alive for a moment (27 years)? What is it that you give me so much credit? Is not GOD also above me as He is above you? Do we not have A GOD up there, in the 3th heaven?
You keep denying truth and seek it out not, then you saying to GOD, that you love lies and not the truth, placing you worthy to be under strong delusion.
Why soul why?
We pray not, yet expected to be allowed into the KINGDOM OF GOD?
GOD shall say to us:
Matthew 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Luke 13:27
But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
=lukewarm christians, who believe yet have no works which show their faith to be alive.
Yep they were studying the bible for sure on this topic....
Kill adulterers (Lev 20:10)
Kill all witches (Ex 22:18)
Kill blasphemers (Lev 24:14)
Kill false prophets (Zech 13:3)
Kill fortune-tellers (Lev 20:27)
Kill anyone who sins (Ezek 18:4)
Kill the curious (1 Sam 6:19-20)
Kill gays (Lev 20:13, Rom 1:21-32)
Kill all non-Hebrews (Dt 20:16-17)
Kill sons of sinners (Isaiah 14:21)
Kill non-believers (2 Chron 15:12-13)
Kill anyone who curses God (Lev 24:16)
Kill any child who hits a parent (Ex 21:15)
Kill children who disobey parents (Dt 21:20)
Kill those who work on the Sabbath (Ex 31:15)
Kill disobedient children (Ex 21:17, Mk 7:10)
Kill strangers close to a church (Num 1:48-51)
Kill all males after winning battles (Dt 20:13)
Kill those who curse father or mother (Lev 20:9)
Kill men who have sex with other men (Lev 20:13)
Kill any bride discovered not a virgin (Dt 22:21)
Kill those who worship the wrong god (Num 25:1-9)
Kill anyone who does not observe the Sabbath (Ex 31:14)
Kill everybody in a town that worships the wrong god (Dt 13:13-16)
And most importantly: Kill anyone who kills anyone (Lev 24:17).
I appreciate your words of wisdom here; thanks.
@@undrwatropium3724 a projection of onself
Thank you soo much for your content. Soo helpful with my deconstruction journey. I will be sharing🙏🏽🫵🏽😊
Thank you for helping people think critically and logically. You have helped me whilst I am recovering from the fear that was instilled in me. Thank you again.
I remember when i learned that there are Child's Versions of all Bible stories, and that these versions were the only ones I'd ever been taught. And these versions existed, not to make them easier to understand for children, but rather to sanitize horrors and shore up inconsistencies.
The Old Testament can be hard to take sometimes, but not being whitewashed like many traditions, its likely true, from front to back.
@@warrenfrisina5651 The Old Testament is also what I personally heard most christians to wash off as: "I dont need to take this seriously, cuz thats outdated, everything else is true tho". What a coping mechanism!
@@skadi6750 I'm not saying the nasty stuff is not true, quite the opposite. I'm certain it is true. And this is why I'm sure the pleasant parts are true as well. Anyone trying to put one over on you will leave out the bad stuff, like when trying to sell you a used car that is about to fall apart.
@@warrenfrisina5651 so you belive the nasty parts are true, and have no problem with the inconsistencies of it.
But you missed the real question - how can you uphold this partial nasty book to be your MORAL standard ?!
@@speedy7040 What I mean by "nasty" is the need to fight for what the nation and person believes is right, as a modern patriot will fight for and risk his/her own life for country even if it means taking the lives of other human beings, regardless of personal feelings about taking another life. This is not unlike defending one's family from an intruder who is intent in physically harming one's family. In the case of the Bible, the goal is to overcome the ultimate harm of spiritual degradation of humanity at large, due to practices like child sacrifice as part of idol worship commonly practiced by the indigenous peoples at the time.
Thank you, thank you. For so long I have had those feelings about the Bible and religion but didn’t have words to express it. I was raised and educated catholic. I was told the Catholic Church was the one true church and always questioned that. After all, what happens to others. I read a book by actor/entertainer Steve Allen. He wrote a book mentioning the contradictions in the Bible. I’ve always questioned why we are allowed free will but are discouraged from using it. You touched on so many things and I agree wholeheartedly. I believe we should be able to live our lives freely, treating others with respect and dignity, but living and enjoying life without guilt or shame. Thank you. So well done.
Steve Allen was a Unitarian Universalist. You should check it out
We were married by a female UU minister.
That question, what happens to others, was the first big crack in my faith structure, brought on by a discussion with a vehemently (angrily) devout evangelical. I doubt he ever realized that his words had the opposite of their intended effect. I am now an atheist since 1969.
The Mormons and the Jehovah Witnesses claim to the the only "true church." Catholic doctrine is steeped in falsehoods and heresy. Rebelling against God is your choice, but hell is full of "nice" respectful people.
@@darkworld5026 I cannot "rebel" against an entity which has never been shown to exist. According to other churches, each one is the only true church and all others are steeped in falsehoods and heresy. I'm going with "They are all full of falsehoods and heresy." And until you show me one single solitary person who is in hell, or even that hell exists, I do not feel particularly threatened (and threats is all you have to coerce folks to follow your sect). If you have something actually true to say, you will be able to bring evidence to back it up.
@@stevepierce6467 Good 4 U......:-))
You have a good point
Searching for the truth is commendable. I questioned the Bible and the church as well. But I had to put a lot of work studying the books of the Bible, diving into the original texts and its translations, doctrines, historical context for the different books, theological writings, etc. As truth seekers we have to put away our 21st century values/belief systems glasses and see the text in the context of the original writers. We need to do a lot of construction before we can actually deconstruct something. Otherwise we just make up a god that fits inside our own preferences, values and contemporary social norms.
Thank you so much for this video, i fell out of religion in my 30s. After dealing with doubts for about 5 years. I love the gentle and calm and logical approach you have. While there is time and place for Dawkins and co’s sharp tongues, Im sure some people respond better to calm dialogue and time to digest it.
To call this a "logical approach" is an insult to logic in and of itself.
@@AverageCommentoras opposed to your logic? The Bible is true because the Bible says it's true.
@@sarag1158.
That's not my logic lmao. If it was, I'd believe a lot of other religious books.
@@AverageCommentor Something is sadly missing in your psychological make up.
Believing without question is indoctrination, not logical thinking.
@@AverageCommentor Noah´s ark is not only illogical, it is not feasible.
I was raised as you and started thinking like you probably about the same age you did. I thoroughly enjoyed it 😀. To me, the book screams of control. I believe in a creator, but not that book. Bravo Zulu! Job well done!
What is also scary is etymology and translations of translation, the meaning of the original word is probably something entirely different . Alot of the true meanings are probably lost in translation. Maybe Wrath isnt the right word and translation?
I didn't really question my belief in god until I went to catechism and this is where I was convinced it didn't exist 😂
These 5 are some of the many that deconstructed my beliefs as well. I studied wholeheartedly so that I could debate nonbelievers, but in doing that, I studied my way out of believing and I, too, have learned to just be ok with not knowing all the answers.
Sellout.
@@isaacthegoat1432 Critically examining the things you have been taught and then changing your opinions based on what you find is not being a sellout
@@xXEGPXx Selling out to atheism because of your emotions is dumb.
@@isaacthegoat1432 You are a Christian because you are afraid of death, that is making a decision out of emotions, I am not bound by that same weakness
@@xXEGPXx I'm not scared of death. I continue follow Christianity because I believe it's true.