An easy guide on how to interpret the bible, as practised by all christian apologists:- 1. Any verse that says something nice and reasonable is to be taken literally and proves how great the bible is. 2. Any verse that says something outrageous and ridiculous is just a poetic metaphor and needs to be reinterpreted to mean something different.
And every Verse where "God" demands mass murder, genocide, or to cut the belly of pregnant women open and to fetch the Fetus and smash it against a nearby rock is just an expression of "God" awesome Love and tender heartedness..... And of course EVERY Family Father is just most thrilled to butcher his only good Son so that all the shabby rotten Kids could go on his expense to Heaven.....we ALL KNOW Christians practice what they preach, lol. But all these creepy Televangelists have no scruples to put their hands into your pockets or declare some egotistical notorious Liar, Rascal & Jerk like Trump as a direct Godsend in all their spiritual and moral bankruptcy is just "business as usual" When Christ warned of all the wolves in sheep's clothing and the false preachers that would come after him he must have had a shockingly precise Vision of "Christ"ianity and all it's false Doctrines, Scriptures, Dogmas coming with an epic history of crimes against humanity and all the abuse, destruction, fraud, damage caused over almost 2 Millenia for the sake of power, money, control..
It blows my mind that a book that starts with a talking snake could be taken as anything but fiction. I have not been able to swallow biblical fairytales even from childhood. I am bewildered how people believe the bible to be a serious book.
@@goodbye6676 The devil 😂😂😂 this isn't some fantasy movie we're in. Get your head out of fantasy land. People don't rise from the dead. People don't live for 900 years. People don't turn into salt. People don't get superpowers from their hair. Animals don't talk. There was no global flood. The bible is basically an ancient comic book. Full of ridiculous fantasy stories and myths which are actually copied from older stories. The only people who believe that are those who were indoctrinated since birth and forced to believe.
The idea of a human being swallowed up by a large marine animal for three days and coming out of it having not suffered any effects of asphyxiation (which will kill you in minutes) having not sustained damage from stomach acids (which may dissolve a body within a few days) is, I would admit, difficult to swallow.
@@i7Qp4rQ miracles by their very nature are non falsifiable and therefore non verifiable. If Muhammad sliced the moon in half that would indeed be a miracle. But, assuming you aren’t a Muslim, I don’t think you yourself believe it really happened. So why should we think any miracle happened at all? It sounds to me that your appealing to a miracle because it would be bullshit otherwise.
Imagine you are a scientist and have spent your whole life trying to understand and explain the world with millions of other scientists and their scientific pioneers for centuries. Always in competition with each other but at the same time in fruitful cooperation. Sometimes on the wrong track, but more often with logical findings that are also confirmed by other scientists and also confirmed from not subject specific scientist who are not familiar with the subject. ...and over time, a coherent and well-rounded picture of the world emerges and how everything works. ...and then someone comes and says: All nonsense! I have here an old book...
But how does science and Christianity contradict each other?? I just wanna know how it's wrong for us to give God credit for his creation, after someone breaks down how those things function It's like if a scientist found something extremely ground breaking, how would it be wrong for us to thank God for creating such a thing and giving us the comprehensive intelligence to understand such things By no mean is that discrediting a scientist, if anything it's giving him/her more credit cause they were able to break down something that is extremely complex which was made by God If anything that gives more credit than to just say, "oh cool you found out how this glow stick functions to its fundamentals... good for you, now let's move on with our day" Like which one sounds more credible?
@@Ranchy_Ranch If you think so, that's fine with me too. But when grown humans claim that the earth is 6000 years old, there was a 10000 foot worldwide flood, an ark saved all animals and mankind, the earth was created in 6 days, etc.... then I have something to say about it. Because these people tell young people nonsense.
@@ilonahaun Okay, so if you believe that nothing can cause something to happen then how is it nonsense to say that a huge flood was formed over the earth? I mean is nothing made out galaxy (s) how is it obsurd to say that a huge flood happened that caused thousands to die? I mean doesn't that sound hypocritical to you?
@@Ranchy_Ranch You really believe that everything in the Bible is true? ...and you're really comparing it to the (yet) unsolved mystery of the Big Bang singularity? Science would NEVER claim to know EVERYTHING. But you can certainly rule out the nonsense of the Bible! That only sounds hypocritical to the indoctrinated uneducated.
@@toma3447 "With god all things are possible!" Even things that are not possible. We might have been created five minutes ago complete with implanted memories of having had this conversation.
Sadly, it is impossible to have a logical debate with a Christian... I've tried myself. No matter what you say, - they'll always twist it to support their argument. And if they don't, they just stick their fingers in their ears, starting singing and try to prentend you're not speaking.
As absolutely devoted as I was to our weird cult growing up, there were a few things I just found weird and no adult was willing or able to answer. One of them was the claim that heaven exists in another "dimension" while the hell is literally in the center of the Earth. Like why... I expected the hell to just be the polar opposite of heaven. And there was no indication that in general, the Earth itself is the opposite of heaven. If both god and satan are spiritual beings and perfectly capable of inhabiting another plane, why is god in another dimension and hell just under our toilet
WRT "...One of them was the claim that heaven exists in another "dimension" while the hell is literally in the center of the Earth..." yep, when you want to CONTROL PEOPLE, you have to hold the carrot on the string just beyond their reach, but keep the whip closer to the skin.
Pretty easy answer, He'll was copy pasted slightly tweaked from the Greeks. so have heard the arguments against that as they try and turn it around like everyone else copied them. I find that highly unlikely as assertions of he'll definitely post date Greek mythology and who really is most likely to have copied whom in its adaptation? As little as they might like it small corner of the world only top 10 at the bottom during time of David Solomon had very little influence on the world at large. While the Greeks certainly did on a large scale adapt elements from all over, it fits w their mythology and doesn't seem so cut and paste.
If you read Moby Dick you would know that Melville spent over half of the book describing whale biology and migration, whaling techniques and equipment, and other subjects concerning whales and whaling. It actually is a textbook on whales. It took me a year to read it cover to cover. Find a different example.
@@Sunweaver593 Thanks I will look deeper into to it. I never knew that about the book. I should have read it before making the comment. I will start today and in 3 years when I finish reading it I’ll get back to you on it.
@@opietwoep1247 Don't feel too bad, technically your said "marine biology" and perhaps Moby Dick is about whaling (and not entirety of marine life). Your analogy is actually better, because even the Bible does contain accurate descriptions of humans (if not about the natural world).. Or how about "Saying the Bible is a book of science, is like saying Sauron from Lord of the Rings is pussy cat"...
I found I like the 1.25 setting a little better, maybe I take longer to process words, idk, but whatever the reason, thanks for the tip, it's working like a charm.
@@visaman always skim the comments before watching, often you'll find helpful comments like this or with time-stamps that help skip sponsor plugs or other parts unrelated to the content you came for. It's worth a 15 ~ 30 second scan of the top few comments for such helpful tips. On count down video and q&a videos it's common to see a comment giving time-stamps for each q&a pair or item in the count down list, it's helpful for warnings about audio levels, honestly screening your vids can seem outright crucial once you get used to it. Anyways cheers.
Maybe. People who believe the bible and/or believe in a god have brains that process information slowly, it's literally caused by a lack of education. They should listen to this at normal speed. Example: when I am speaking English with non English speaking people they will put up a hand and say "Please speak slowly, we are French".
We live in SC, when my daughter was in 7th grade, in a public school, a student asked "why do fish have scales" her answer "Because god gave them scales"
Because no kid at school or the teacher told her that right? I had teachers tell me that God made the earth in public school in southern California. Kids naturally ask questions, and a lot of the time receive stupid answers.
Science cannot explain the origin of the universe. The Big Bang theory is so illogical because nothing can come from nothing. Where did the matter of the Big Bang come from? What is the source of the energy that caused the Big Bang since energy can’t be created or destroyed? Did this matter exist from infinity? Matter cannot have existed without a beginning. Creation story makes more sense than the Big Bang. All the inventions we enjoy today have a beginning, cars, phones, TVs, skyscrapers etc. They were invented by intelligent humans in time from things already existing. So how can one hold that the diversity in the universe just popped up after a Big Bang without a creator. As regards evolution. Evolution doesn’t disprove creation. Existing beings may evolve. But before anything can evolve it most exist first. Now answer this is space finite or infinite? They’re many assumptions in science. Many things science cannot explain. The universe must have been created by an intelligent, supernatural, all powerful being. If you still hold on to the Big Bang show me an experiment of something coming out of nothing? You ask for prove of God. Prove to me how something like the matter or gasses of the big band can just exist from nothing. Since nothing can come from nothing there must be a creator who brought things into existence from nothing. This creator is God.
@@Norbert4ty5828 big bang theory (coined by astronomer Fred Doyle)is a theory that everything started at once,...supported by a theory that an explosion that happened must have left a sound echoing through space,...scientists set a giant sound checking device (ear) to detect the sound in all directions of space,...they were successful,winning a Nobel Peace prize. .........man is programmed to see things all around us as having a beginning and a an end , life and death ,.......that's why man cannot understand these concepts.(always existing and creating something from nothing ).......If God created the universe in that way,it makes sense, ...the bible says that the stars were created all at once (Job38.7) and also he is stretching out the heavens (they are expanding )and (in the beginning he created the heavens and the earth ).......even humans are created from a tiny cell that expands into the human form.......But most Christians do not believe we have evolved, ....the bible says we were created perfect and then deteriorated in time.
The Big Bang was named by Hoyle but was originated by a Catholic priest and scientist named Lemaitre . Most Christians do accept evolution. There’s a small bunch of fundamentalist science deniers who don’t and even those fundamentalists are basing their beliefs about the science on false or misleading information given out by creationist pseudoscience organizations
Then explain why science constantly changes. For example flat earth theory and the sun revolving around the earth. Much of science is observation and extrapolation based on perhaps.
@Nehemiah Scudder oh yes science did say the earth was flat and just like today they threatened death to anyone that disagreed go read history if not for the queen of Spain Columbus was on the chopping bp9ck.
@Nehemiah Scudder How does science explain dreams? The bible supersedes science therefore science can not be used as a yardstick to cross examine the bible. Conclusion reached resulting from observation and experimentation is a layman's definition of science.With no result seen science can not reach any conclusion
@Nehemiah Scudder The very definition of science admits that the bible supersedes science. Therefore this is a dead end for you. Science is only limited to things that are observable , and is capable of being experimented upon..Everything outside of that is not scientific.. There are many things that are not scientific but yet exists. Who talk about talking snakes and so forth?...You atheist guys are so stuck in a perpetual stage of adolescence With no result seen science can not reach any conclusion..Psychology can reach but not physical science..except theoretical physics
Honestly for my whole life I have wanted to trust the bible implicitly. But for me I just have noticed so many things for my self that didn't add up. But I genuinely wanted to believe it all to be true. Its been an internal struggle most of my life. I am a JW but have been inactive for several years. I don't blame anyone for wanting to believe in a creator or in the bible and if they live as better people for it good on them. I have also taken issue with many thing especially the cherry picking of carbon dating. It just always felt disingenuous to me. But ultimately there are parts of me that wish I could be simple minded and not question things. It seems like such a simple life. I used to be envious of people who could just read something and believe. Meanwhile I stay up for days at a time researching little details, I hate it. One thing that has always bothered me about religion in general is when you would pose a logical question that was very sound and had no biblical reason, you are met one of two ways. Your an apostate or you just lack faith. Now I am not here to side with one or the other. Just to give an account of someone stuck in a sort of limbo for most of my life. Its a strange place to be when you question both sides of the argument. I have watched many debates and read many articles and haven't found my self satisfied by either side. One thing I did years ago I decided to not question or care anymore just live my life the way I wanted. I have no remorse or guilt I am actually much happier living in the now. Not that I'm trying to dissuade anyone from finding a god or religion. I just remember the countless nights of not feeling good enough for my inquisitiveness. I just accepted ill never be satisfied with any answer and quit caring from both perspectives.
Out of curiosity, have you ever read anything by Rob Bell? I recently read his book “What is the Bible” and was able to find a much deeper appreciation of a lot of biblical stories. I don’t mean any offense in my reply, so sorry if that’s how it comes across. I just really enjoyed the book haha
@@whateven6694 no honestly I haven’t heard of him and I take no offense. I’ll take a look and give it shot I’m open minded I think it’s a disservice to be close minded to information
@@bubbythebrow153 I’m not entirely sure in my beliefs and am open minded as well! I thought I would share that book with you considering I noticed a lot of similarities between us from your comment and thought you might like to read it. Best of luck to you!
Any one who has no doubts is simple minded , but what I will say from observation of this evil world ruled by a cabal if the Bible isn’t true then you better lock n load cause there is NO HOPE. !
I was raised as a JW and left when I was around 17. As I started to fade out my mother pleaded with me to have a weekly bible study with an elder, to ease her mind I agreed. He was not an idiot and could tell that I was becoming sceptical of the whole thing. His big ace up his sleeve that proved the bible was the real deal was the verse you spoke about at 43:10 where Isiah spoke about the 'circle' of the Earth. He told me that back then everyone thought the Earth was flat, but here was Isiah, using the information he received from big J, talking about how it was round. For him, this proved that the bible was all factual truth. I looked straight up after reading this verse and said, 'but the Earth isn't a circle, it's a sphere.' 'Oh, same thing.' He says while brushing it aside. What a joke.
You haven’t thought about it, though. The earth is indeed a sphere, but if you were to go around it, which is what the verse is basically saying, “all around the world”, your path, as the crow flies, would be a circle. Overthinking it out of desire to find a fault.
@The Meaning of Life thats moronic. JWs believe god will create a paradise on earth for his followers, and those who do not follow gods instruction will return to dirt. athiests believe we turn to dirt regardless.
@@ralphpierroii4626 A path "all around the world" would not even be close to a circle. You cannot go from different parts of North America, Asia, South America, Europe, and Asia in a circle. And that's just by continent. If you were to go to only one place on each continent, you would be missing entire civilisations.
@The Meaning of Life how ridiculous. Atheism is not a religion and it definitely isn't the most comparable belief disposition to JW 😂 sounds like you want everyone who isn't your religion to soubd equally crazy
@@gengar6666 I personally would not identify with the number 666 the mark of the wild beast. 6 in the bible means imperfection and the fact there is three 6's the imperfection is especially bad. This wild beast was created and empowered by God's arch enemy and was given the number 666, denoting heightened imperfection. However the world admires and even worships the wild beast with its rituals. People who worship and do obeisance to “the wild beast” [ political entities ] and its “image” is linked with service, for the worshipers are identified as supporters of “the wild beast” and its “image”. These ones have the mark of the wild beast 666 on the hand or on the forehead (for all to see). You have it as your call sign.
To reply to a hour and 38 minutes of trying to find errors in the Bible will take a long long time, so i picked 1 verse out of many mentioned here. 1 Chronicles 16:30: Does the Bible Say the Earth Doesn't Move? A frequent visitor to my blog left a comment where he alluded to biblical passages that speak of the earth not moving (geocentricism). He did not cite a specific verse but this is not the first time I heard that criticism so I'm aware of certain passages which are frequently cited in support of that claim. Perhaps the most frequently cited is 1 Chronicles 16:30 : Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. (1 Chronicles 16:30) At first hearing, this criticism seems to have legs (for any Bible critic reading this, I'm using an expression. The criticism does not "literally" have legs). The genre of 1 Chronicles is historical narrative - unlike Psalms which is Hebrew poetry. So when we read a passage like 1 Chron 16:30 in the midst of historical narrative, it seems as though the Bible might literally be saying the earth does not move. A quick look at the context, however, quickly dispels that notion. First off, the passage is clearly introduced as a psalm (ie “song” or “prayer”) of David. 1 Chronicles 16: 7 says, " Then on that day David delivered first this psalm to thank the Lord into the hand of Asaph and his brethren." Like the book of Psalms, the passage uses poetic descriptions to convey spiritual truth - not necessarily literal truth. In the same passage (v. 32-33) David says that the sea “roars,” the fields “rejoice,” and the trees “sing.” Why not the same critics who allege this passage endorses geocentricism, also assert the Bible teaches that trees sing? It's because they know that people will immediately recognize trees singing as an obvious use of metaphor. Yet they still quote v. 30 as though it's meant to be a statement of fact. This is a clear case of quote mining where critics cite a passage out of context in order to make it sound like the Bible says something that it clearly does not intend. Another thing we must be careful to consider is what is meant by the use of words like "world" and "earth." Often, when these words are used, they are not referring to the physical earth but the people of the earth. This is demonstrated in the same verse in question. 1 Chron 16:30 says, "Fear before Him all the earth." Do you think this means the literal “earth” should fear Him or does it not more likely mean the people of the earth? It could mean the literal earth in the same sense that the “fields” rejoice. On the other hand, it could also mean the people of the earth. The Bible does use the words “earth” and “world” in that sense; H ere are some indisputable examples where this is so: And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity. ( Isaiah 13: 11a ) And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed. ( Luke 2: 1 ) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. ( John 3:16 ) In these passages, and others, the word “world” clearly means the people who live in the world. No one, for example, could rationally argue that Luke 2: 1 means that the literal earth (that is, dirt and rock) is going to be taxed. We also have to ask what is meant by "not moved." The most ordinary meaning, of course, is that it means “stationary” and that is what the critics who cite this passage claim it means. However, "not moved" can also mean "not moved from its course" or "unpersuaded." Psalm 21: 7 says, "For the king trusteth in the Lord, and through the mercy of the most High he shall not be moved." I'll ask you: does this passage mean the king is stationary or does it mean that he should not be moved from his trust in the Lord? In conclusion, remember that this is a psalm. In a poetic passage that says the Lord established the earth that it should not be moved, it would be entirely unreasonable to interpret that to mean the Lord established the ways of the earth (or its people) and it / they will not be moved from the way He established? What is unreasonable is that critics (whether intentionally or by ignorance) ignore the clear context of a passage and assert the correct interpretation of an obvious use of poetry is that it is meant to be literal fact. It's no wonder that critics see the Bible as rife with errors. They obviously have trouble reading. Plus a quick note also on on Psalm 104:8 Please read in context instead of trying to mislead people. You said and displayed it in writing at minute 42:08 8 -Mountains ascended + and valleys descended - To the place you established for them. But if we read it in context 1 verse before and 1 verse after 7 But at your rebuke the waters fled, at the sound of your thunder they took to flight; 8 they flowed over the mountains, they went down into the valleys, to the place you assigned for them. 9 You set a boundary they cannot cross; never again will they cover the earth. Obviously it is talking about the waters not the mountains and the valleys. Please do not mislead people. P.S. this is a Psalm, the book of Psalms is poetry Please do read the Bible in context and do a little bit more research on the type of literature of the text is written in, before trying to say that it is in error. Thank you and be blessed in Jesus' mighty name.
A fascinating analysis from an objective scientific perspective. 🧐How about the misleading biblical translations of the original languages used in the New and Old Testaments? In other words, scanning translations of grammatical and semantical mistakes. Do you think that Moses (being the alleged author) plagiarized the Code of Hammurabi?
You are beautifying paganism to yourself self saying god is man. Would you like someone to call you women and then tries to make it sound nice. 4. Lo! as for those who believe not in the Hereafter, We have made their works fairseeming unto them so that they are all astray 5. Those are they for whom is the worst of punishment, and in the Hereafter they will be the greatest losers.
Fax bro.. I came to this video to get support because if religious trauma, and all i got was a bunch of people telling me i will burn for all eternity.. Some Christians they are.. I thought they were supposed to be kind
Well, I'm gob-smacked. If you're a bible literalist, or a Christian fundamentalist, and you're annoyed at this video, don't blame me, blame my Patreons. Listen Pal, if you don't annoy bible literalist, or a Christian fundamentalists, then you're not doing your job properly!
Most everyone will agree that the Bible contains symbolic truth. The issue is to understand the literal Bible. For example we read that: "The eyes of the LORD are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good". Does God have literal eyes? Then we look at the cherubim in Ezekiel 10:12 and we see: "Their entire bodies, including their backs, hands, and wings, were full of eyes all around" So our literal understanding is that the Cherubim are the eyes of God. The Bible has to be properly translated and interpreted. Science tends to go with the best explanation we have until we have more information. As we continue to learn and increase in our understanding.
@@migranthawker2952 1984 was required reading back in the 60's. Because there is a lesson to be learned from that book. Even if the Bible were fiction, there would still be a lesson to be learned. The icing on the cake is that the Bible is literal and symbolic also. The Bible is not ONLY universal, the Bible is also timeless.
The flood is always a good one, the idea that 8 people could gather and look after 8 million species, most of which were not local to Noah and most of which had not even been discovered at this time make it impossible by itself.
The older stories from which the Hebrews stole their variant, writing it to "one upman" the older gods by making their god more powerful, more wrathful etc. had only a LOCAL flood of Mesopotamia and thus only a few dozen sorts of animals that had to be saved, the livestock of one normal wealthy farmer and his family that accompanied him. The bible still retained the older value of 22 cubits of water (about 10m), but where that makes sense for the flooding of "Iraq", it makes zero sense for a flood covering everything including Everest!
@@Ugly_German_Truths The highest mountain in Mesopotamia is over 5500m, which would flood 90% of the world. If the flooding was only local, it FAILED in its purpose to flood the entire earth, furthermore, if it was just local, then all the people and animals simply find higher ground. However they try to explain it, it still fails.
Didn't need 8 million species. You probably only needed around 30, 000 kinds of animals on the ark..you wouldn't put insects on the ark or marine animals.
@@IWITNESS7 Do you know what a species is? It is an animal which can only breed with its own kind. Therefore, you can't just take a bird, you need EVERY species of bird. So you need Balckbirds, Thrushes, Sparrows, Swallow, Swifts, Owls, Flycatchers, Kestrels, Merlins etc. Then you need to do that for EVERY species which can't survive a flood event. 8 people COULD not even look after 30,000 species. Furthermore the majority of the world's animals do not live near to Noah, and were not known to him. How did he get koalas, kiwis, crocodiles, polar bears, grizzly bears, kangaroos, hedgehogs etc if he hadn't even fucking heard of them?
@@sandersson2813 Plus the ark would need to have space to store a year's supply of food for each animal (which would take 3 times the space)--and since the earth would be covered in seawater--all possible crops and food supply would have been destroyed.
I spit out my drink laughing while I was watching a video of Aron Ra explaining that since Noah's Ark only had one window, the 8 people on it would have almost immediately died from methane gas poisoning from the animals farting and pooping! Aron Ra does a great series of videos about Noah's Ark and the flood being impossible.
I’ve often pondered the universe and what scientists tell us about it. Then I think that before that there was nothing. And then I ponder E = mc2. I mean God is omnipotent but the power involved in the creation of the universe is just so astonishing I never really know what to make of it.
@@redastair When mankind believed Earth was the only planet and all the stars were merely specs of light surrounding it, it made some kind of sense that the Earth was created for us by some omnipotent God. But now we know we're merely a spec in a very large universe (and that's only the bits we can see) it doesn't really make much sense at all. In fact, the only reason to carry on believing in God and creation (despite all the evidence to the contrary) is that you can't face the truth.
@@UltraBall23 My point was more around the absurdity of a God being so wasteful with energy - or even that considering what we know of mass/energy that somehow a God could bring what amounts of a universe of mass, multipled by the speed of light squared and yet unable to do more about what happens in that universe. I'm not a believer. You're right that science doesn't claim an empty state. That obviously has its own challenges and questions but, at least to me, is a more honest starting point.
After Adam and Eve ate of the tree of knowledge, god says, “now they have become like us, in that they know right from wrong”. A couple of points: 1) Who is “us”? How many times are we told there is only ONE GOD? 2) Obviously, before they ate from the tree, they did not know right from wrong. How can a just being punish those who do not know what wrong is? Further, how can the being punish all descendants of those who didn’t know right from wrong?
Good questions... I believe god refered to himself as "us" and jesus later let's us know that he is part of that "us" 3 parts to one JUST being. Adam and eve didnt know right from wrong because wrong had never been committed however adam was given 1 law, god instilled basic laws or " comandments" upon creation but gave 1 verbal law not to eat of the fruit, not only did he give law but also consequence if the law was broken, I do this with my kids all the time... anyways, my opinion, hope it helped...
Well again, god gave law and consequence, he told adam what would happen if he did not obey. Just like my decisions will definitely effect my children, grandchildren like my father and mothers effected me. Yes, however, as a child of christ we avoid a spiritual judgment by recognition of christ... that he was sent by the father... the bible says Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to cling to, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And then goes on to tell us that by this belief we receive salvation, not condemnation, so by belief in christ, we can and accept discipline now and avoid eternal punishment... again, my opinion... I hope this helped Side note, when god created man he also stated " Let "US"make man in "OUR" image... our first hint that the son was there from the beginning which jesus later tells the pharisees throughout the gospels...
@@EmersumBiggins lol... not really... I think we confuse things and complicate matters... jesus gave us 2 commands before he left, love god first and love one another and by doing this all of his commandments will be honored... just love man, no judgement, just love...
Brad if you were talking to a snake today the guys in the white coats would lock you up. Why does the snake in genesis have to be an actual snake? Snake in the bible is used in a number of different ways. Satan is referred to as a snake because of the way he conducted himself. Have you heard the saying, "You are a Snake". What do you you think that means? Satan was the one responsible as the caretaker of the garden. He could have made himself a visible human like creature as other angels in the bible did with a mouth that could speak. Taking everything in the bible literally will head you down the wrong road everytime
@@ronhansen8471 The Bible doesn't say OR insinuate anything you just asserted. Calling someone a snake in the Bible is a general insult. In fact, the god character curses the snake to crawl on his belly after that fable. If it was talking about Satan, there would have been no need to curse a reptile. The Bible is speaking of a literal talking snake and that's not something that happens in reality.
@@thomasrevere1728said: The Bible doesn't say OR insinuate anything you just asserted. Ron's response: About a snake being a spirit creature the materialized in the flesh. If you read other chapters in the bible you will find that other angels [ Gabriel being one of them ] came to earth as humans to give God's servant a message. @Thomas Revere said: Calling someone a snake in the Bible is a general insult. Ron's response yes it is. Common expressions that include calling someone a rat, snake, pig, or shark are metaphors. Calling someone a snake is implying that person is sneaky and hiding something. @Thomas Revere said: In fact, the god character curses the snake to crawl on his belly after that fable. If it was talking about Satan, there would have been no need to curse a reptile. Ron's response: This is what I find interesting about most people and the bible they read everything literally. Using the snake is a fitting metaphor for what Satan made of himself. @Thomas Revere said:The Bible is speaking of a literal talking snake and that's not something that happens in reality. Ron's response: How did you come to that conclusion? It should be common knowledge that snakes cannot utter a sound of any kind. The bible said that Satan was the one that deceived Eve and uses a snake as a metaphor to describe Satan. We know that angels could materialize as humans as well as other figures and Satan was the caretaker of the garden as an anointed high ranking Cherub angel. When Satan violated his position and turned against the true God he became a snake, a resister and a devil among the many metaphors used to describe him. After Adam and Eve were evicted from the garden two visible angels stood guard at the entrance for 1640years.
@@ronhansen8471 my whole point is that god wouldn't have cursed a real snake if it weren't an actual snake that he was talking about in the first place. Furthermore, a donkey never talked in real life. If jesus was god, he would've known that the fig was out of season and there was no need to curse the tree. There was never a worldwide flood like the Bible says there was. The entire creation story is a load of BS. Slavery is wrong, unlike what the Bible says. I could go on and on, but I'll just make the overarching point. The Bible is a horrible book that nobody my should defend.
I’ve found my new favourite video on TH-cam. I suffer from insomnia and I like the subject matter well enough to want to listen to it... but your voice soothes me so much that I am yet to finish the video. I will finish it eventually after getting some much needed rest. ❤️
Wow ... this is nice ...I am from Kerala (India) born and brought up in a Syrian orthodox Christian family and I was a Sunday school teacher too. One day I started asking questions myself and to parish elders about biblical narrations...but never been answered ....or the answers that I got was not satisfactory for me.Then I quit practicing religious things and now I am cornerised 😀. Well... this presentation saying that I was not wrong.... Thanks.
Very interesting little presentation lol, though it's a shame you were cornerised (assuming I'm understanding right and you mean something along the lines of being ostracized), also not related to the topic of religion and faith but Kerala is a very cool sounding name for a place India has some really neat sounding location names.
please don't close your eyes to the only Saviour of the he world only to open it in hell fire..... please rethink.... you can be a Sunday school teacher and still not know the Lord.... if a little confusion can make you changed your mind about jesus... then you have never be a christian in your life.... those WHO truly know jesus believe him even to the point of death... you better go back to the only way back to God before it is too late for you.... jesus is the ONLY SINLESS SAVIOUR of sinners
Regarding your disclaimer, you don't understand how the fundamentalist mind works like the creationist or the fundamentalist literalist mind works. The fundamentalist literally will say that if something in science doesn't match the Bible in other words Bible gets wrong according to science, then it is actually science that is wrong and the Bible that is correct no matter what the evidence shows. One even said if the Bible said that two plus two equals five he would believe it no matter even if he didn't understand it.
@@silvanofungomeli757 The really crazy part to me is that those same fundamentalist literalist creationists will claim that science is on _their_ side! It's like having their cake and eating it too-- it doesn't matter what science says, the Bible is the only true source of knowledge. But luckily science is in complete harmony with the Bible, scientists are just conspiring to prop up evolution theory. Ugggh
In history every time the bible had a scientific truth people later found out the bible was correct & science of the day was wrong. There's never been anything in the bible that was proven wrong. Here are some bible science things. Science: 1 peter 3:15 (reason, hope): Genesis 1 (scientific method),job 26:7 (earth free floats),26:10 (spherical nature of earth), Isaiah 40:22 (circle of the earth, “klug” round or spherical), 40:12 (isostasy) ,Colossians 1:17 (Laminin all things hold together), Hebrews 11:1(faith is…), Jeremiah 33:22(innumerable stars), job 28:25(air has weight)38:16 (ocean has springs), habakkuk 2:14 (knowledge creation), job 36:27-psalms 135:7 (rain cycle), 1 Corinthians 15:41(each star different), job 38:19-20(light moves),Ecclesiastes 1:6 (wind blows in cyclones),2 Samuel 22:16 & Jonah 2:6 (ocean floor has mountains and valleys), Leviticus 15:13 (disease precautions), 17:11(blood is health & life), 12:3 (blood clotting drops on 8th day), Hebrews 11:3 (everything made of invisible elements “atoms” before there was a name for them), Genesis 7:22(everything breath in nostrils on ark), 7:14 (kinds) ,1:22 (fruitful), 1:24-25 ,6:20 (species have a “kind”), 1-3 (scientific method), 6:15 (ship dimensions), Rom. 1:20 (invisible attributes), Jeremiah 33:25 (laws in the universe), psalms 8:8 (parts in water)
Many people try to equate the bible with scientific processes. The very first chapter of the Bible states that an Entity created Time, Space, Matter, Energy, and Physics from nothing. Not only that, there are other instances where the Bible states that the Entity can alter time, space, matter, energy, and physics at will. To top that off, the Entity can alter your mind and memories... To try to claim scientific errors with an Entity that can do those things would be a fruitless endeavor.
The problem with this is when you argue any of these points to a witness, they will always throw up the argument that it's not literal. The entire belief system is based upon frivolous fluctuations between the literal and the figurative.
I asked a Christian how dinosaurs fit into Genesis if god supposedly created all life and man within a 7 day period, and there’s some who say “it doesn’t mean 7 literal days” while others believe that humans and dinosaurs existed at the same time, or some Christians think that dinosaurs are fake
Very interesting video Lloyd I'd like to commend you for all the work you've put into the video, for years I've been questioning the Watchtower and it's teachings, many of the things you mentioned in this video I've looked into and actually questioned.
Making God out to be a dangerous and violent alcoholic father who can read your mind is what’s kept Christianity alive low these many years since the Enlightenment happened.
BINGO. I've always mistrusted god for that reason. I sort of catch myself saying, well F'k off then god, you created me, I displease you. Instead of simply destroying me and starting over, You'll just watch me suffer, blame me for all my mistakes, and refuse to accept that I was your mistake. Guess what god? I don't like you either.
@@timothypfalzgraf7758 I went through that phase right before cutting the last strings of theism. Gods don’t exist. Free yourself from that bs. We determine our purpose and the value our own lives. Also religion is fucking dangerous and killing humanity.
and not everyone that is Christian smart enough just like when the bible says the moon was emitting light it was actually reflecting light even john in revelation was describing the missles and helicopters and nukes in silos wasn't even remotely on point but he definitely wasn't smart enough to explain it I out of those people know and understand the word way better than anyone I don't need to say the bible is poem because there are reasons behind every verse
The Bible says in John 3:16-36 that whoever believes in the Lord Jesus Christ shall not perish but have everlasting life, the Bible also says in Romans 10:9 that those who declare with their mouth that Jesus Christ is their God, Lord, and Savior they shall be saved. Revelation 1:8 says that Jesus is the alpha and the omega. Luke and revelation is the ending times, and Jesus is returning back. So are you going to submit your life to him or no? Narrow is the path that leads to the gates of heaven, but only few people find it. The gates that is the path to destruction is where many people find it! Jesus loves you SO MUCH! That he died on the cross, and was resurrected from the dead 3 days later to give us eternal life..’znz.’znznznznz
In reference to #9, I was on mushrooms with a buddy about 25 years ago and we were walking around at night in the hills at the lake, and it looked to me like we were in a giant snow globe. Was pretty cool! And when I was pointing that out to my buddy, he said ya it does look like that, then he said "and do you see the pillar there?", and I had no idea WTF he was talking about so we just laughed our asses off and moved on to some other dumb topic... I totally forgot about that til this video LOL Thanks for the awesome memory!
Too funny! I took mushrooms once when I was 23, decades ago. There was a woman that everyone was gaga over. But in my mind, her eyes were gigantic and saucer like... I remember thinking, "she's not pretty at all!!!" I hope I didn't say it out loud...😳 Cheers!
@@TubeSkaterRudy Naw, the bible is already completely misunderstood and not actually read through by 99.99999999% of the people that claim to believe in and worship the words within that crappy book... If you want to actually read the bible, go to Amazon and grab the "Holy Bible - Best God Damned Version - The Books of Moses" which is lot more interesting and summarized read of the Old Testament! Then if you want, compare it to the actual bible if you want to confirm it's legit and accurate! It made me laugh out loud a few times when it would tell you what's in the chapter or section of the bible, then would comment on the situation. That book was the absolute best and my most favorite book out of all the books I have read! People don't actually read the bible because it's ridiculous and obvious fiction, as well as proven without a doubt to be absolutely inaccurate, which you will know for sure by reading over and actually putting some real thought into the first paragraph of the bible. Where the author of the first section was way behind on a few very major scientific discoveries since his time... The obvious hilarity as well with the entire rest of the bible is the amount of effort that was put into trying to trick other people into believing that the people of the times fictional ideas were instead real true, when they were obviously either mentally ill or they were on a mission to obtain followers for their own groups, through manipulation using mostly scare tactics and threats, with a few really sad little parlor tricks they somehow apparently pulled off to convince some very over or under exaggerated amounts of people around them depending on the situation. So much of the bible is trying to cover and back pedal over lies that were told previously, which would either just completely contradict and change all of a sudden to something completely different with a new narrative as well, or the lies would be continuously be mentioned as a constant brainwashing reminder, but would slightly include little twists and details to bend their meaning and purpose. To be completely honest, the bibles entire content is borderline retarded, and is obviously meant to target and manipulate the massive population of like minded individuals that are unfortunately born and brought up into the areas that the bible is worshipped, and the same goes for all of the other 4000+ other gods and 4000+ other worshipped religions that parents continue to abuse or allow their children to abused by others with, from the earliest of ages! Good luck letting someone grow up completely void of theistic influences and child abuse messing up their proper thinking and educated minds, then when they are around 18 years of age and have experiences reality without influential mind f**kery, tell them all about any of these worshipped books of BS, and see how they react to this information you try to get them to follow! LOL I say it's mass child abuse on a global level, because it implants other peoples beliefs in that many children's minds from the start of their lives when they are most influential, vulnerable, as well as gullible, that were passed down through generations of absolute ignorance, which causes mass amounts of the human population on this planet to instantly defend and or dismiss all natural as well as educated thought toward forming their own educated opinions or ideas about what they were told, and lead to believe as a result. I don't know about you, but I feel like that is a pretty horrible thing to do to developing children that one day become adults that will instantly shut down anything that suggests they might have been mislead their whole lives, and prevented from trying to figure anything out for themselves because they were told not to try to be more smart than the magic old invisible giant man that made the human species out of dirt like a little sand castle, then breathed his magic invisible life breath into the dirt mans nose to bring the little dirt man to life, so the giant magic invisible old man, which would mean he would have a penis in order to be a man, which is what our species calls a "man" because a man is one of the only actual 2 types of our entire species, that uses a penis as it's normal human instinctual reproductive organ to reproduce, which is our only actual purpose and "Meaning of Life" that people just can't ever figure out, because they are too concerned with these ridiculous BS fictional stories from the simple minds of our ancestors thousands of years ago, before our species was able to look into microscopes and telescopes, to see well beyond their immediate line of sight everywhere their self important lives roamed... Believe those old books, or else!!! Or else what? Oh, you will see when you are dead and your brain no longer forms thoughts and no longer retains memories, because your blood stops flowing and supplying your body with everything it needs to function! But then how would I be able to remember anything that was processed as thoughts in my physical brain that I had when I was alive, and be able to continue being anything that I was as a person while living on a cloud that is above the snow globe above earth, that holds the water out so it doesn't flood the earth again when the god from the bible communicates with a single person again in that persons head, and tells him the exact plans that are required to build a giant ship out of wood that can sail the entire planet, just like that 550 year old man named Noah did when he traveled the entire undiscovered world on his ark so he could pick up those kangaroos and koalas and penguins and all those other animals him and his sons somehow convinced to climb aboard their boat, so the god could then COMPLETELY MURDER ALL OF THE HUMAN SPECIES with a massive flood where he opens the top flood gate and pours the water in from above, and the one below to also shoot the universe water from outer space in from under the snow globe like dome that the god created when he separated the waters to form an area for our flat 4 corners of earth that was created on the 3rd day, before the sun and moon were created, which somehow all 4 of those days somehow took place and happened without the earth rotating around the sun, but the sun and moon are actually in the dome live in that holds the water out.............. And this is exactly why the bible, and all other ancient absolutely uneducated and obviously very simple minded authors from a couple thousand years ago and more, are historical thoughts of fiction as they tried to make sense of their lives and their surroundings... And which is why you weren't brought up to realize that the bible is a book that nobody reads from page 1 all the way through to the end, just like ALL other books other than reference books without stories of any sorts, but the bible is all stories, and they are really terrible ones at that! LOL
Nice video. Can you make such a video on Koran ? Islamic scholars keep on saying that Koran had mentioned a lot of things which the modern science is now discovering.
You should take Bible cosmology literally because it's true. You'll find modern cosmology to be the myth if you care to investigate and question assumptions.
well you are religious as well.... you have to BELIEVE that there is no God... which is a religiousl statement. you have to BELIEVE that you originate from apes.... since there is no scientific evidence to support that... so you are MORE religious than you want to admit, or acknowledge.
@@thewaytruthandlife I believe there is no Loch Ness monster. Is that a religious belief? But, wait a moment. Are you saying not believing in god is a bad thing BECAUSE it is religion!!?? Is religion bad?? I'm confused.
@@juanausensi499 to keep it simple: yes and no !! Is loch ness monster a God ?? no than that part is not a religion in itself. When the existance of Loch ness monster as a dinosaur is PART of the religion in whether God exists or not that is part of a religious assembly/ a religious set of believe statements. Now since the existance of loch ness 's Nessie Is related to the idea that the flood took place and thus is associated to whether the bible speaks the truth or not... that is indeed religious connected. so yes and no...
@@thewaytruthandlife Ok... so, not beliving in Loch Ness monster is religious or not depending on if there are people that consider Nessie a god or is present somehow in their religious beliefs. So my conviction is religious/not religious depending of external factors that maybe i don't even know. So i can have a conviction and i it's possible to me to not be able to know if it's religious or not. It's... weird. Also, then you and me have a lot of religious beliefs in common! We both don't believe in Zeus, Thor, Ganesha or Ahura Mazda! Our religious stance is almost the same, there is only one god difference.
dude, the knowledge the prophets had wasn't always literal, and God made it simple for the people of the time to grasp. For example, when Moses said that god made us from dirt and his breath, it symbolizes our bodies and souls. Moses wouldn't understand if god said '' you're carbon-based organisms". Dirt symbolizes carbon molecular chemistry. Dirt is what Earth's land mainly consists of, and carbon is one of the most dominant elements of Earth. There are also misinterpretations of the bible due to the catholic church. The flood didn't happen worldly but only in Mesopotamia. What you say are inaccuracies is just you misunderstanding the bible
But if god HAD said "you're carbon based life forms" that would have been a huge flag to future generations about the biblle about divine origins. But of course it doesn't. The bible simply relfects the ignorance of the desert tribesmen living in the bronze age who made it up.
@@richardgregory3684 if God had directly said that we're carbon based lifeforms then the people of that age wouldn't understand what He meant. Imagine a farmer 3000 years before listening to that. He could never believe or accept it. He wouldn't even understand. That's why god says things in a way that everyone understands. For example, John in revelation said that the stars will fall. Now we know that those are not stars but satellites. John said that with the mark of the beast we can be located everywhere and the Antichrist will know where we are. Now we know that John talked about a kind of tracking device in the form of a microchip. It's obvious that when sth is metaphorical we shouldn't look it at face value. Now you might ask what's metaphorical. An easy answer would be, the parables and the visions. Both genesis and revelation were visions, and not sth that Moses or John actually experienced.
Had I known this growing up in my sect (protestant baptist in europe) it would have been sooo much less stressful and I'd not have wasted youth years of deep anxiety watching out if the moon and stars were no longer in the sky but falling all over the place, announcing the beginning of the apocalypse. I was deadly scared of having last-minute sinned, even though my life was only about being beaten up and yelled at by my mother, endless chores, going to school and of course lots of church meetings, services and watch-nights (all night services 6 pm-6 am non stop). But still... you're still so scared of going to hell. What a waste of time!
Am so sorry. It goes to show that we've always got to investigate whatever someone tells us, be it our religious leaders or the scientific community. Most people who go through this don't just wanna try something different. They are just too afraid to make changes. They are not adventurous enough. They show gullibility by trusting others completely and distrusting themselves. Believe in yourself, research.
As a speaker of American English I am intrigued by your pronunciation of the word SAYS. We say SEZ, but I like the sound of SAYZE. Excellent content and illustrations. By the way, I boosted the audio speed to 2X and found the everything quite comprehensible. Keep up the good work, please.
Our planet Earth is very small unit or particle in our Galaxy or milkyway There are billions of Galaxy or super nova in the Cosmo.No.body exactly knows where it starts or ends
I'm wondering why God would need to rest. If God needs to rest that means God gets tired, may even need to sleep. Although creating everything is quite a feat, I still don't think of a perfect, omnipotent, omnipresent God as needing to rest.
it's amazing our capacity to believe bullshit. Just because someone who provides you food, shelter, and community (parents/church) claims something to be true, you are likely to go along with it to keep getting the food, shelter, and community. Combine that with highly developed techniques used to suppress critical thinking skills, and you have the world religions.
@@ndubuisiezeoye2099 "God rested,in the sense that he has finished his creative work on earth." So he moved on? to what? What is he using his infinite power to accomplish now?
@@akunog3665 God is using his infinite power now to protect his people and to keep the preaching work going(John 5:17,2Samuel 22:1,2, Mathew 24:14) That is why the preaching work keeps going on despite opposition.God will soon use his power in a grand style at Armageddon when he will ultimately eliminate his enemies and save his people.(Revelation 16:14,16) It's a pity that religious leaders today are misrepresenting God,but, that doesn't mean that God doesn't have a people (an approved religious organization)
And not being able to acknowledge inaccuracies almost makes people even less credible. Like just admit it. “Hey I still believe this, but yeah there are also things that don’t add up.” Not that it matters, but I would respect that answer a lot more.
There is no beginning or end to know. God gave free will. If it is abused it will result in suffering. We have free will to ignore God's will and it will result in suffering. Although we figure it doesn't apply to us. Put you hand in the fire and suffer. Ignore the Commandments and we will suffer. Obey the Commandments, to the letter, and suffering and sorrow will be unknown. It's not rocket science but not that easy to do.
@@mysticwine Then why does the Bible say in the beginning the Word was with God. If there wasn't a beginning. What he asked was if God knows our timelines from the beginning and end then how do we have free will since he knows our lives and what we will do already. He's asking why are we penalized for his actions and our nonfree will if he's the beginning and the end and all-knowing.
@@pandemicmbm9176 There is no beginning or end to existence. Beginning and end belong to creation of the universe. The universe and existence are 2 different animals.
@@mysticwine you are missing the point. One that statement can not be proven at all even. He's clearly talking about our timeline of existence, so even if your statement of there is no beginning or end is true, but we are not talking about that.
You should read Quran too brother, Bible has been corrupted in 6 th century by King James. Only uncorrupted religious book in the world is Quran. Told by William More 200 years before who was a biggest critique in Islam. Watch Zakir Naik Quran and Modern Science Compatible or Incompatible video.
@@andrewloretta4523this video gives you 40 like he said. If you are here to help then help me understand why you believe the bible stories but not the Roman version of events, which actually do have real evidence to support what they say?
24:17. JW’s say that God created the earth over the period of six thousand years because six literal days doesn’t add up scientifically. They use the verse 2 Peter 3:8 “but you must not forget this one thing, dear friends, a day is like a thousand years to the Lord, and a thousand years is like a day.” To support this claim.
There were Five Vedas given to mankind from God the fifth Veda is Sukshuma Veda Satan destroyed fifth Veda God came on earth and had one of his disciples rewrite again.Listen to creation of nature by Saint Rampal ji Maharaj listen to all five videos with English subtitle .we never had a enlightened Guru to explain us Sant Rampal is only true Guru in this whole world and he is the savior of the world.
@ Clifford Gooden ... You must know what is written in Exodus 21-7-11 is not practiced in Christianity. This is practiced in Islam now-a-days too. Recently one Afghan lady left Afghanistan with her two younger daughters said to the news anchor that her husband is a member of Taliban fighters, once he gone his home and taken his eldest daughter to serve as a sex slave for the fighters and repeat the act with his second daughter. I am no one to blame any religion. It's a fact. Please watch the videos of Afghanistan after Taliban took over, you will find what I said.
Did you know that there were different cultures just like in today's world, that lived a life of sinful-warped ideals?!?! As it was, still is! To follower of God these actions are forbidden! Just another example of twisting Gods word to fit another agenda. The real reason this happens is people dont want to face the truth, the truth can sting like a jellyfish! The truth is (YOU) who do not believe, also does but will not accept it, because your life,...everyone's life is sinful and unbelief is a way of hiding yourself, believing that your Sin goes unseen! Well its seen alright, and the stain of it will remain until you have excepted the truth that God is all powerful and Christ Jesus is your Savior, and only through Him sins, are forgiven, and only through Him can you enter the Kingdom of God
Those who wrote the bible were not up to standard.. in the late bronze age. The greek philosopher Demokritos said that the whole universe was built by atoms, that the stars were distant suns and that the universe was endless. Nothing about that in the bible.
Zack Freeze said: I really like the science angle. Some of these were questions that I used to ask my dad (elder) as a kid Ron's response: Why would you ask an elder science questions? They are shepherds not science teachers. The bible is not a science book.
@@francoisdebruyn4424said: Ron Hansen there is a 107 science facts in the bible that is correct, Pslms and Job etc. and 8 science statements that is not. Ron's response: What are the 8 science statements you feel are wrong?
@@francoisdebruyn4424 I have no idea what Lloyds list is. But the earth supported on four pillars is not in the bible. Nor does the bible teach the earth is flat. It also does not teach that creation happened in a 24hour period but took time
And yet the Bible has withstood all attacks on it. Science is still stuck on string theory. Science can’t prove evolution. All they have are theory’s that they can’t prove. When are they going to start proving them. When Jesus Christ returns. I thought people where way smarter and they keep proving me wrong when they bring up macro evolution. Are you being serious. Do you understand that just one event is impossible (big bang) and your asking for another event (chemical explosion) natural selection now that’s a religion on it’s own. It’s impossible for two events to have happened and people believe this and you attack a Bible when your theory’s are impossible. Big bang 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Big Al In Leviticus on dietary restrictions unclean birds you could not eat ,mentions bats, the Bible writers didn't know bats are not Birds but mamals, in the Gospels epileptic fits ate caused by Demon attacks, deafness is caused by a death and mute spirit, Jesus thought the mustard seed was the smallest, he was wrong. When Satan took Jesus to a mountain top and showed him all the Kingdoms of the Earth ,both Jesus and Satan thought the world was flat. If you don't want to be a atheist agnostic, please do not read the Bible the Atheists' instruction manuel .Justin Porter ex jw ❤️
I don't believe the Bible is meant to be a book of science (unfortunately fundamentalist take it that way.) I think it's got a lot of myths intermixed with some history, written by men with all different perspectives and agendas. Now, that's not to say myths and stories don't have truths built into them. (see Joseph Campbell among others, I suppose). Those myths are important to us as humans for sure, but so should be the search for scientific facts.
I agree, and that's why I, for once. skip a Lloyd Evans video. It just isn't very intresting to hear that they didn't get the science right more than 2000 years ago. Of course they didn't.
Thank you for this video. It’s very well laid out. I am youth leader at a small church. Im excited to use your examples and let the students work these out for themselves. You seem like a very genuine person. One who id love to have tea or a beer with and just discuss these topics with no hidden agenda. Again, that you for your hard work in putting this together.
Ask a Christian a simple question and you'll get difficult nonsensical answers giving rise to more simple questions and getting more difficult nonsensical answers.
A Christian is not free from the title false prophet. They are everywhere. True prophets are very rare. We have to develope the ability to know the difference.
@@mysticwine well you just proved that you CHOOSE to stay blind, you aren't really seeking the truth. Please stop lying about the Bible being wrong as it has never been proven wrong, if you have something to say about the Bible i'll be here waiting. Anytime we can schedule a debate with all of you at the same time, stop lying!
I live in Eastern Kentucky and u wouldn't believe how many people tell me I'm going to hell and a fool for not believing the bible is the word of god and literally true.
The very first page of the Bible claims that trees came before the sun. As soon as you read that, that is when you should throw the bible in the garbage 🤷🏾♀️
Same! There’s an ex Jehovah’s Witness artist named Fifth (who has a great TH-cam channel as well) and some lyrics of his lyrics go: “I’d rather have questions I can’t answer, than answers I can’t question” 😲😲🤗
@@zedolvero4515 I’ll give you the analogy of a six year old who can’t understand all his fathers ways but trust him because he knows that he loves him and “is” almighty. In the child’s eye, right ? It is the same with the Heavenly Father. He has demonstrated His presence and His immense wisdom and power to us, so we trust things in the Bible even that we don’t have explanations for. The Bible is Perfect.
@@zedolvero4515 Ex JW here...I will have to check that out. Slayer has 2 songs, Cult and God hates us all with poignant lyrics. "Wasting your life in a leap of blind faith."
As the late great Richard Feynman put it “I can live with doubt and uncertainty and not knowing. I think it is much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers that might be wrong"
@@richardcampbell6898 most people need the book,......many people confusingly believe that you have to earn respect, ...when it is trust you must earn ,.....but in actuality, it is respect that should be given.
@@mslice0760 I don’t think that’s quite true either tbh, I don’t think trust or respect has to be given to anyone. The point of my original comment was that thinking it has to be or to be told to is false, being good natured is the choice to do so even though you don’t have too!
@@richardcampbell6898 not trust,...but respect is given, .....in many cultures for thousands of years, ...the bible, confucius, etc......respect your elders, etc.,......it makes sense, .....but today, people have reversed it,......like bad,...is good.
Christianity has a long history of making stuff up. The Nicene Creed pays close attention to divine hierarchy and is a masterpiece of inventiveness. In the case of the Bible, you don't have to go into detail to realize it consists of a number of human authors all saying different things in different books. If the Bible were the word of God, its content would be consistent throughout and full of wisdom. Instead, much biblical dogma borders on the suicidal. If you accept that the writers were human, they can be forgiven for their scientific inaccuracy; they were writing to reassure and inspire desperate, uneducated people long before the scientific revolution. So we must be careful of overdoing the 20-20 hindsight.
@@christianchristian6441 Prove to me that there is a god, prove to me that the one in whose name you speak is an actual god, prove to me that he/she/it/they has the right to have authority over me, and prove to me that I've sinned (after you describe exactly what "sin" is), and maybe we can talk. Otherwise, don't threaten me with consequences you also haven't proven exist.
God declares the end from the Beginning. Even all the laws of physics were around 14 billion years ago. They are universal - the same everywhere in the universe.
@@JohnR77 Who convinced you to believe such a thing? Which god? There are literally thousands of gods humans have worshiped since the beginning of human belief systems.
Just 3 errors in this list. Unfortunately, those three eliminate almost every point. 1. The Bible is not a scientific publication. Treating it as one leads to many of the points being wrong-headed. For example, Job is a book of metaphor closer to poetry than science. Psalms is a book of songs i.e. poetry again. Other books of the Bible contain poetry or other metaphors. The prophets use a lot of metaphors. 2. There is no recognition that the Bibel was written a very long time ago. To judge it by modern science is just foolish. For example, pi being referred to as being 3 and using an approximation of 3.14 show a lack of understanding of the history of mathematics. 3 is the closest rational number to pi, if you do not have a concept of irrational numbers 3 is correct. It is possible that some of the founders of mathematics may have known about irrational numbers but would that be used by authors of texts written at that time, no because it would not be understood. Other things fall into this as well, for example, the moon emitting light. But then again at a quantum level, it does :). 3. The interpretations used are cherry-picked from best know bad interpretations. Creation in six days is the most obvious. For a start, Genesis was written in Hebrew where "day" is a period of time where things happen that may be years in length. We use Day, in the same way, today e..g. "The Day of the Jackle (c)". One extra bonus point. Some points speak out of silence. That is none of us know because there is no record, no evidence. The Biblical position could be more accurate than our current understanding because the evidence may have been lost or not yet discovered. See the story of Nazareth in the early 2000s. Try looking at the Bible again but as books of literature and history. It is certainly better than taking a single-minded approach.
So the creation story in the Bible is fiction? What about the creation of Adam, the Flood, the Exodus, Solomon the great king who is absent from parallel human history, the stories of monsters, flat earth etc etc. The only thing that is real about the Bible is that it is a book of fiction.
@@doyouknoworjustbelieve6694 I did not imply any of those points. The Creation story is interesting in that it is only a very short ancient account of Creation that demonstrates a view that is well ahead of what we would expect. Some of the events in the story are only now being recognized by science. For example, the separation of light and darkness and the formation of stars, planets, and other astronomical bodies. By the way, the separation of light and darkness is a reasonable description of what happened as the very early universe cooled. My point is that the Bible is not a scientific record of what happened, it is an account written by someone (traditionally believed to be Moses, other scholars think others). The theological view is that the writing is inspired by God. Please note, it took thousands of years for sciences to come to a beginning of the universe and many scientists still don't like it. The creation of Adam is different, evolution presents the tree of life as an answer and the Bible says God made him from dust. I think we all have too many unknowns to be making claims of complete answers. The Exodus, my view is that Archeology is still catching up with what happened that long ago. Clearly, there are big holes in any proposed account from so long ago. There are modern archeological finds and theories which support parts of the Biblical account and some which don't appear to. There are just too many unknowns. My point is that where there have been claims that are supposed to disprove the Bible, many have been proved wrong (see Nazareth for a modern example). We should not make assertions from silence. This is a fundamental concept to Christian theology. Not that it stops some from making such assertions. One last comment on history. The Bible is part of Human History. When it is used to examine the past, it is treated the same way as any other historical source, it is viewed as a document with biases, all documents have biases. Monsters in the Bible are either real animals (e.g. one to two-horned unicorns, rhinoceros) or attempts at descriptions of heavenly beings (e.g. angels) or metaphors in prophecy (e.g. the beast in revelation). Your last point is patently wrong as the Bible does support historical accounts which are accepted as having really happened by the major historians that study those periods. I suspect you are looking at these things from a limited knowledge set. One mistake many people make is to think that Christians are blind to many of these questions. They are not they have been studying them for centuries and understand them far better than most atheistic writers. My challenge is to understand these things not to take a convenient argument given to me from a limited perspective. In answer to the question "Do I know or just believe" the answer is both. Some things I know and believe, others I need to trust the source. When the source has been found to be trustworthy over many years and to many people it is not a bad thing to do.
If you read the creation story properly, you soon begin to understand, that everything prior to the creation of man himself is a description of man himself.
@@khrismoore1434 long story but it starts with heaven and earth. But you have light and darkness (hope andi no hope, evil and obedient (clean and unclean) and so on
the biggest innacury is the fact its written at all , its supposed to be a book written in jerusalem 2 thousand years ago but all the passages are from people with English names .
The Bible is an old book of Jewish folklore, nothing more. I prefer Star Wars for my spiritual enlightment, orthodox chapters 1-6, not heretical chapters 7-9
Foolish man!! Wake up amd stop being deceived by satan. Star Wars will not save u nor give u life. God's judgement and wrath will be upon unrepentant sinners!
Adam Hill said: The Bible is an old book of Jewish folklore, nothing more. I prefer Star Wars for my spiritual enlightment, orthodox chapters 1-6, not heretical chapters 7-9 Ron's response: Learning the language of the bible is needed to understand what the bible teaches? The bible is highly symbolic and if it is read literally as a secular novel it will sound like a fairy tale or an old book of Jewish folklore. Unfortunately very few people on this planet will master the abstract nature of the bible.
@@adamhill4141 people do tend to find whatever it is they are looking for when they read the bible. Part of it has to do with the way our brain works but most of it is the poor teaching job by the religious leaders and peoples willingness to have their ears tickled.
@@ronhansen8471 If gods existed, if they had any power whatsoever, they wouldn't try to force us to worship them by producing poorly edited, inconsistent, morally repugnant, fairy stories, whose meaning requires deciphering by an ultra elite of sycophants.
I'm a Christian but I respect your view and opinions I will study these verses and see them in their context and if they are peotic etc but thank you for this video I'm open to learning all views 👍
Theres many historical evidence of cultures that tell stories of dinosaurs being hunted etc also there's been drawings and sculptures of what they saw, they were dinosaurs. they called them dragons, the word dinosaur wasn't a worse until the 1800s.
@@YDDES The whole passage in Job 40 concerning Behemoth certainly suggests a large animal, and no known living animal fits the passage adequately (for various reasons, including the detailed habitat presented). The most natural interpretation of the key clause Job 40:17a is that the tail of Behemoth is compared to a cedar for its great size, and there is nothing in the context which contradicts this possibility, even though the exact sense of the verb is extremely difficult to determine. Consequently, the most reasonable interpretation (which also takes the whole passage into account) is that Behemoth was a large animal, now extinct, which had a large tail. Thus some type of extinct dinosaur should still be considered a perfectly reasonable possibility according to our present state of knowledge. Now many of the descriptions of dragons fit with how dinosaurs are described by modern scientists. evolutionists refuse to acknowledge it as valid evidence because of their belief that man and dinosaurs did not live at the same time.
@@haljordan9607 yea. I hate all the primitive non sense like love your neighbor, sacrifice for others, turn the other cheek, don’t judge others, take care of one another…blah blah blah. We should leave all that primitive stuff behind. Sorry for the sarcasm but just making a point about the real purpose of scripture.
You can say everything in the universe is a reason to believe in God. But how can you judge with certainty that it's biblical God? Why is it that the Bible of all Divinely inspired scriptures is the true representative of God? Especially when it was compiled by corrupts. What does it have that no other scripture does. It can't be the prophecies because the Hindus beat you to it. The science is shaky The historical accuracy for the Old Testament is also shaky So what is it? *Please don't mention that God has shown himself to you or that you had a dream or some shit like that because every religion says the same thing Thanks
@HeavyMeddle301 Because science has become its own religion. When a Christian says they believe in something because the Bible says so, many Atheists and Agnostics lose their mind, yet do not see the irony when asked why they believe in a scientific claim, to say, because science says so. Same reasoning, different paradigm.
I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy. Medical 'science' just convinced the world a few years ago to take a bunch of experimental, side-effect inducing shots for a supposed virus that was never even proven to exist. Just shut up, don't ask questions, and trust the science! Safe and effective!
@@4theloveoftruth86 Nobody asked you to believe in a scientific claim because science. But rather because of the evidence that justifies it. Also, scientific modifications are frequently made when something new is learned. Unlike religion which is held in it's original state of beliefs based on a historical text with countless flaws.
@@4theloveoftruth86 You don't have to believe in Evolution or the Big Bang (I don't). But if you're gonna believe in God. What's the reasoning for the Bible being the correct representative of him? That was my first comment that you conveniently skipped in favor of calling science a religion as an easy way out 🙄
I can hear my previous self in the background go: "but the laws of science can be bent if you made them up" 🙆🏻♂️🤣 Thanks for keeping us SANE my friend 😊💕
They snatched your faith away, huh ? Do you know that that was prophesied ? 2 Thessalonians 2 first few verses. Also read Daniel 8. It is about the first Gulf War and the subsequent fate of the USA. But you gotta drop the rejectionist attitude for when you read it. It ain’t gonna say “George Bush”, but it will cite him.
Wow. Just… wow. Thanks for reminding me I no longer keep pace with people like you. Strengthens my view that most Bible thumpers are cookoo 👍 I appreciate that
@@zedolvero4515 You read the chapter ? Or are you afraid you might find out it is true, and that therefore you need to go back on your knees to your Maker ? See, you’re not even lifting a finger trying to discredit my point. My claim. I stand by it. You’ll find confirmation of your apostasy everywhere you come across Christian claims that are not easily explainable through logic and science. That’s a fail ‼️ Those two creeps know much less that what they don’t know. At least do you not “😱Wow” that reflexively ?
@@zedolvero4515 You won’t listen anymore to a Bible thumper ... but you’re swallowing everything from statue toppling ‘Das Kapital’ thumpers Antifa and BLM, right ? BAD trade off ... which you will rue bitterly when time comes if you don’t come to your senses. But that ain’t easy in this godless zeitgeist. I’ll just let you know that the way “back” is ready for you because you left the faith in the sincerity of your personal convictions. “If we are faithless, He remains faithful for He cannot deny Himself”. When you see a major signal, a witness from God, don’t let ‘guilt of apostasy’ keep you from rushing back in. Remember the “prodigal son” story. Jesus is Lord. God bless you. ✝️💙🙂
Its brainwashing from birth my friend. If you've been subjected to this garbage from birth, of course you'd going to believe it. I think its child abuse actually. Threatening children with a fiery torture death if they don't comply. Sad....
Allah words: Earth spread like carpet held in place by Mountains like Stacks hold camps. Sun moves from the underneath of Allah chair and ends up in mud during night. Alla would hit you sinner, on Earth by throwing Twinkling STAR like pebble(Perhaps Alla did not know STARs are little in reality). Not to mention. Earth is center of solar system and floats still.
him trying to prove that that Bible is scientifically incorrect on many of his scientific theories that are backed doesn’t not make the theory a fact until proven, and using different time periods in the Bible from what God was tell a human to write, the human writing that information in a way that humans could understand in that time on top the Bible being translated into different languages when the Bible it self said that God made people speak in different tongues because he fears what we could do, that has us fighting each other over the Word of God and has us misunderstanding the literal from spiritual and teachings and trying to science theories and facts into the mix without understanding or seeing any of it for our self
@@joshuaortega546 I watched Lloyd’s video, and I agree with him. You are entitled to your opinion, I do not have to agree with you. I found it very difficult to understand what you are trying to say as you have used very little punctuation, just 2 or 3 commas. I have not seen any evidence for any gods at all.
okay so for the second one, if you look at what he’s saying is, not one of them is not under God’s control. Not one is missing means there isn’t one not there that is supposed to be. In context he showing that everything is under control by God. He’s not talking about how stars work, this is what happens when you take away context.
First of all, “gravity” as we know wasn’t discovered during the time of the writing of Job. Therein the description given of hanging on nothing would be accurate for the time period.
People experienced earthquakes. Of course the earth is and was not firmly fixed. The bible writers never experienced an earthquake before writing something so untrue?
Yes, the real question is whether the Hebrew language has words to describe the science the writer was expected to express. God can only deal with people according to the knowledge at that time. Try explaining a day in a human's life on Mars today, even if you were told what the devices will be used on Mars, you'd get it wrong. That doesn't mean those devices will never exist, or humans won't do those things on Mars, and most importantly, that what you were told is wrong. The disconnect between what we read and what was spoken, is how well the writer understood God's message.
@@petergostelow This goes back to the whole omnipotent, omniscient god-thing. Any such being would be able to describe ANY event with the limited vocabulary, if true. Any notion that these things could not be described accurately using whatever vernacular available is simply an indication that human beings were involved and not a god. In fact, as I thought of this, I could contrive an explanation using common words to describe what gravity would more accurately be or any other scientific concept would be. Just thinking about the words, the bending of space and time, forces, etc. All words that can be used in Hebrew. Again using the argument that people 'in those days' would not have been able to understand, for a god, is non-sensical.
@@timisa58 I never said the Earth couldn't be described accurately. I said the language may not have the words used in science. Lets be clear, scientists are trying to figure out how God made the Universe, while God is free to describe His work any way He likes. The issue here, is scientists don't know how the Universe works, they can't agree on gravity anymore, nor whether the speed of light is constant, so it is a bad standard to use to fact check the Bible.
I also was told the thermosphere was where the floodgates of the heavens came from... because it is hot it can hold more water...🤪 I think the international space stations orbit is in the middle of the thermosphere... I don’t think water can fall that far.. it would dissipate in the vacuum of space.. I have a headache from thinking too much..🥴
@@Mr.snamor No,....It wasn't done, it was interrupted for our sake,.....the challenge at the garden of Eden,....was that man could rule himself. ....God basically said I give you a day to prove it.
@@ahmadibrahimdiallo You and Jazzy ( and so many others) are so deluded and besotted with this bible nonesense. Of course, the deluded know not of their delsion.
Near Death Experience stories are all over the place. Now taking a step back and thinking about what the bible says about death is very contradictory to these stories. Is this the same parallel as to what happen at Garden of Eden where God did not want to reveal everything to Adam and Eve about the tree. God only said to them; if you eat this fruit you will die, and it so happens that they did not die the type of death we come to know as death. Are we being told the same here about death? when the breath leaves our body and goes back to God, what does God do with the breath? the breath is not just an empty air that goes back to him. Does he put all the air in a lock box? I think we are not being told the whole story.
It must be so much work marking out these time stamps and Bible passages, I don’t even know how to commend you for your great work! Thank you bro! I always say once you leave JW, it’s easier for you to become an atheist than a churchgoer (I hope this word doesn’t offend people that goes to church as my terminologies are still kinda JW inspired) I was a JW all my life till my mom died when I was 14, at 14 I was already an orphan, me and my bro was being raised by a single mom who was entirely our world and when she died, all hope died, JW wanted me to drop out of school and just become a full time preacher, I was already a baptized regular pioneer, we were poor and me and my brother were even homeless at a point after mom died, I started going to work as a laborer where you get paid daily, and I started to miss meetings because I had to put food on our stomach and this was back in Africa where you don’t get help from government or even relatives. Long story short, JW was mad at me and even as an orphan with no one, they took everything away from me, I was already a lonely orphan and here they were taking everyone I knew from me (only ex JW Will understand this, I had no friend outside of JW, we didn’t even play with the kids in our neighborhood because they weren’t JW, we knew no one outside of the organization) The fact that JW would weaponize the few friends they let you have against you at your lowest point is pure evil. The case was so bad that it made some youth leave the organization because they just wouldn’t cut me off as they understood my struggle. Young guys left the congregation to stand by me. It’s just a lot of stories that I just tried to summarize as much as I can! JW would take everything away from your whether you’re a kid who just became an orphan or not because they don’t care about you, they only care about the hours you report and the people you converted or brought into “The Truth”. 2016 was the year I decided to be the master of my life and stop being a slave to “Jehovah’s organization” and have a say in the direction I want my life to go. I’ve been free since then, I officially left at age 16 and today, I’ve made it now, I have a good life and I’m now in a position to help others as I’m very stable in every aspect now and moved here recently and I’m back to school. I’m grateful to see videos like this because I’m happy to see people escape JW successfully without them pushing you into suicidal thoughts or making you hurt yourself when they take everything away from you! And JW are the only people that’ll literally scold you and tell you how much of a big unforgivable sin you’re committing when they know you’ve attempted suicide instead of talking to you and finding the reason that pushed you into such decisions. I’m not saying I encourage suicide, I’m just saying it’s wrong to scold such person without finding out what pushed them to such decisions in the first place.
@@tothejudgemental8299 yes, but the bible, this particular book, was shredded by the council of Nicea. Almost no texts from before it survived. We KNOW they changed it heavily. The council made the changes they made specifically to gain better control over the people and to give themselves a higher standing/ position of power. Therefore, the bible is a collection of myths and legends made by humans who did not have good intentions. The stories they pulled from were probably mostly made by humans with good intentions, but they were coped into the bible and altered by men with bad intentions.
@@ZackBurnsOG we actually don't know that.... there is actually no research (buy ANY religious scholar) that a small number of a few bishops in Nicea "collected" or created anything (most Christian bishops did not even attend). That is simply not true. The First Council of Nicaea was called to debate and decide the divinity of Jesus (meaning was he just the "Son of God" or also the divine embodiment of God on earth). What we call the "Bible" is different depending on the denomination: the traditional Catholic Bible is different from the Ethiopian Orthodox Church. People just keep repeating this internet lie.
I’ve been trying to tell many of my fellow Christians to be weary about getting science from the Bible. There is no reason to think ancient people should be writing about science or have a modern scientific view of the world. They had a ancient near eastern view of the world.
@Gek ⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ but God didn’t write the Bible. That is a Muslim view. The Christian view is that the Holy Spirit inspired the scriptures but used human beings who articulated genuine thoughts and feelings and their own perspective in their own worldview.
The Monarchy excommunicated Galileo through the church. In those days, the Church was controlled by Government. Context is key, just like for this video.
@@Skyfoogle No, The Government used the Church to do as it wished. The Catholic Church complied. But there was another Church and that was the Orthodox Church that did nothing of the sort. SO which Church are you talking about, first of all... and then you can read about Henry the VIII and how the England created their own Church because the Church would not comply with his wishes. Read some history books.
Let us keep in mind that, wrong or right, Christian parents teach their children what they, believe to be the factual truth. Not a disgraceful, maleficent planning to ruin the lives of their own children.
absolutely but children will grow out of the nonsense their parent taught them, unless they are caught out civilization, they will grasp reality and get off the indoctrination
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An easy guide on how to interpret the bible, as practised by all christian apologists:-
1. Any verse that says something nice and reasonable is to be taken literally and proves how great the bible is.
2. Any verse that says something outrageous and ridiculous is just a poetic metaphor and needs to be reinterpreted to mean something different.
Better known as the Old Testament and the New Testament 🤦♂️
Time for a new New Testament, later upgraded to the new new New Testament
Well said!!
Can I copy your words?. 😊
@@khabibtime3689 of course
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Thanks bro.. 🙏
And every Verse where "God" demands mass murder, genocide, or to cut the belly of pregnant women open and to fetch the Fetus and smash it against a nearby rock is just an expression of "God" awesome Love and tender heartedness.....
And of course EVERY Family Father is just most thrilled to butcher his only good Son so that all the shabby rotten Kids could go on his expense to Heaven.....we ALL KNOW Christians practice what they preach, lol.
But all these creepy Televangelists have no scruples to put their hands into your pockets or declare some egotistical notorious Liar, Rascal & Jerk like Trump as a direct Godsend in all their spiritual and moral bankruptcy is just "business as usual"
When Christ warned of all the wolves in sheep's clothing and the false preachers that would come after him he must have had a shockingly precise Vision of "Christ"ianity and all it's false Doctrines, Scriptures, Dogmas coming with an epic history of crimes against humanity and all the abuse, destruction, fraud, damage caused over almost 2 Millenia for the sake of power, money, control..
It blows my mind that a book that starts with a talking snake could be taken as anything but fiction. I have not been able to swallow biblical fairytales even from childhood. I am bewildered how people believe the bible to be a serious book.
You and me both, and I went to catholic school... I just assumed nobody believed it, and it was just crap you had to suffer through.
I don’t think it would take much to blow a weak smoke like mind.
The devil or a demon took form of a snake, genius
@@goodbye6676 The devil 😂😂😂 this isn't some fantasy movie we're in. Get your head out of fantasy land.
People don't rise from the dead.
People don't live for 900 years.
People don't turn into salt.
People don't get superpowers from their hair.
Animals don't talk.
There was no global flood.
The bible is basically an ancient comic book. Full of ridiculous fantasy stories and myths which are actually copied from older stories. The only people who believe that are those who were indoctrinated since birth and forced to believe.
@@Paul-ts5qw Jesus technically wasn't human he just had the same body as us yes animals don't talk and I just said it wasn't a regular animal
The idea of a human being swallowed up by a large marine animal for three days and coming out of it having not suffered any effects of asphyxiation (which will kill you in minutes) having not sustained damage from stomach acids (which may dissolve a body within a few days) is, I would admit, difficult to swallow.
Badum, tissshhh! 😂
Ha!
Only if fellow "skeptic" forgets it was an unique miracle to begin with.
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Miracles are also unscientific and debunked though.
@@i7Qp4rQ miracles by their very nature are non falsifiable and therefore non verifiable. If Muhammad sliced the moon in half that would indeed be a miracle. But, assuming you aren’t a Muslim, I don’t think you yourself believe it really happened. So why should we think any miracle happened at all? It sounds to me that your appealing to a miracle because it would be bullshit otherwise.
Believer's aren't interested in facts. There afraid of going to hell for believing in facts.
facts
What are the facts?
What you are afraid of.
I’m Atheist because I’ve read the whole Bible. I wasn’t born again, I set myself free.
Being honest with yourself always wins
In my opinion, the bible itself is atheist...
@@moramoon9517 Quran spawned off the Bible...
Sorry, don't buy it for a second
@@moramoon9517 the Quran was written by people who copied facts from the Bible and other holy books. So don't even bring that up.
You guys lie about everything though. 🤷♀️
Imagine you are a scientist and have spent your whole life trying to understand and explain the world with millions of other scientists and their scientific pioneers for centuries.
Always in competition with each other but at the same time in fruitful cooperation.
Sometimes on the wrong track, but more often with logical findings that are also confirmed by other scientists and also confirmed from not subject specific scientist who are not familiar with the subject.
...and over time, a coherent and well-rounded picture of the world emerges and how everything works.
...and then someone comes and says: All nonsense! I have here an old book...
He’s taking a lot of verses out of context though. You have to think of how it applies to the people that are being written to not directly to us
But how does science and Christianity contradict each other??
I just wanna know how it's wrong for us to give God credit for his creation, after someone breaks down how those things function
It's like if a scientist found something extremely ground breaking, how would it be wrong for us to thank God for creating such a thing and giving us the comprehensive intelligence to understand such things
By no mean is that discrediting a scientist, if anything it's giving him/her more credit cause they were able to break down something that is extremely complex which was made by God
If anything that gives more credit than to just say, "oh cool you found out how this glow stick functions to its fundamentals... good for you, now let's move on with our day"
Like which one sounds more credible?
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If you think so, that's fine with me too.
But when grown humans claim that the earth is 6000 years old, there was a 10000 foot worldwide flood,
an ark saved all animals and mankind,
the earth was created in 6 days, etc....
then I have something to say about it.
Because these people tell young people nonsense.
@@ilonahaun Okay, so if you believe that nothing can cause something to happen then how is it nonsense to say that a huge flood was formed over the earth? I mean is nothing made out galaxy (s) how is it obsurd to say that a huge flood happened that caused thousands to die?
I mean doesn't that sound hypocritical to you?
@@Ranchy_Ranch
You really believe that everything in the Bible is true?
...and you're really comparing it to the (yet) unsolved mystery of the Big Bang singularity?
Science would NEVER claim to know EVERYTHING.
But you can certainly rule out the nonsense of the Bible!
That only sounds hypocritical to the indoctrinated uneducated.
My sister is a Christian and no matter what I say her response is always “God made it possible” very frustrating
Ignorance is bliss ik the meaning to life but i cant speak upon it 🤐
"her response is always “God made it possible” very frustrating"
That's a polite way of dismissing and avoiding further argument.
With god all things are possible! Jesus is god. Lord over creation.
@@toma3447 "With god all things are possible!"
Even things that are not possible. We might have been created five minutes ago complete with implanted memories of having had this conversation.
Sadly, it is impossible to have a logical debate with a Christian... I've tried myself. No matter what you say, - they'll always twist it to support their argument. And if they don't, they just stick their fingers in their ears, starting singing and try to prentend you're not speaking.
As absolutely devoted as I was to our weird cult growing up, there were a few things I just found weird and no adult was willing or able to answer. One of them was the claim that heaven exists in another "dimension" while the hell is literally in the center of the Earth. Like why... I expected the hell to just be the polar opposite of heaven. And there was no indication that in general, the Earth itself is the opposite of heaven. If both god and satan are spiritual beings and perfectly capable of inhabiting another plane, why is god in another dimension and hell just under our toilet
WRT "...One of them was the claim that heaven exists in another "dimension" while the hell is literally in the center of the Earth..."
yep, when you want to CONTROL PEOPLE, you have to hold the carrot on the string just beyond their reach, but keep the whip closer to the skin.
Pretty easy answer, He'll was copy pasted slightly tweaked from the Greeks. so have heard the arguments against that as they try and turn it around like everyone else copied them. I find that highly unlikely as assertions of he'll definitely post date Greek mythology and who really is most likely to have copied whom in its adaptation? As little as they might like it small corner of the world only top 10 at the bottom during time of David Solomon had very little influence on the world at large. While the Greeks certainly did on a large scale adapt elements from all over, it fits w their mythology and doesn't seem so cut and paste.
Only 40 ?
A better approach might be to actually list the accuracies
Saying the Bible is a book of science is like saying Moby Dick is a marine biology textbook
If you read Moby Dick you would know that Melville spent over half of the book describing whale biology and migration, whaling techniques and equipment, and other subjects concerning whales and whaling. It actually is a textbook on whales. It took me a year to read it cover to cover.
Find a different example.
@@Sunweaver593 Thanks I will look deeper into to it. I never knew that about the book. I should have read it before making the comment. I will start today and in 3 years when I finish reading it I’ll get back to you on it.
So maybe it should have kept quiet about scientific subjects???
@@opietwoep1247 Don't feel too bad, technically your said "marine biology" and perhaps Moby Dick is about whaling (and not entirety of marine life).
Your analogy is actually better, because even the Bible does contain accurate descriptions of humans (if not about the natural world)..
Or how about
"Saying the Bible is a book of science, is like saying Sauron from Lord of the Rings is pussy cat"...
Of course the Bible is not a science book, but at least it should be accurate when it comes to reality. After all isn't it from God?
TIP: watch this video on 1.5x speed, it's 200% better. He talks really slow, still a good video though.
I found I like the 1.25 setting a little better, maybe I take longer to process words, idk, but whatever the reason, thanks for the tip, it's working like a charm.
For the first 30 minutes I was falling asleep. I had to get out of my recliner and walk around to wake up.
@@visaman always skim the comments before watching, often you'll find helpful comments like this or with time-stamps that help skip sponsor plugs or other parts unrelated to the content you came for. It's worth a 15 ~ 30 second scan of the top few comments for such helpful tips. On count down video and q&a videos it's common to see a comment giving time-stamps for each q&a pair or item in the count down list, it's helpful for warnings about audio levels, honestly screening your vids can seem outright crucial once you get used to it. Anyways cheers.
Maybe. People who believe the bible and/or believe in a god have brains that process information slowly, it's literally caused by a lack of education. They should listen to this at normal speed. Example: when I am speaking English with non English speaking people they will put up a hand and say "Please speak slowly, we are French".
I did it and didn't even notixe he's talking faster than he should lmao🤣🤣
We live in SC, when my daughter was in 7th grade, in a public school, a student asked "why do fish have scales" her answer "Because god gave them scales"
Your daughter said "Because god gave them scales"?
Because no kid at school or the teacher told her that right? I had teachers tell me that God made the earth in public school in southern California. Kids naturally ask questions, and a lot of the time receive stupid answers.
As an engineering student, I am so glad you made this. I am so sick of the inaccuracies being brushed off and thrown aside by religions.
the inaccuracies come from people that don't understand what there reading. ...like Lloyd.
Science cannot explain the origin of the universe. The Big Bang theory is so illogical because nothing can come from nothing. Where did the matter of the Big Bang come from? What is the source of the energy that caused the Big Bang since energy can’t be created or destroyed? Did this matter exist from infinity? Matter cannot have existed without a beginning. Creation story makes more sense than the Big Bang. All the inventions we enjoy today have a beginning, cars, phones, TVs, skyscrapers etc. They were invented by intelligent humans in time from things already existing. So how can one hold that the diversity in the universe just popped up after a Big Bang without a creator. As regards evolution. Evolution doesn’t disprove creation. Existing beings may evolve. But before anything can evolve it most exist first. Now answer this is space finite or infinite? They’re many assumptions in science. Many things science cannot explain. The universe must have been created by an intelligent, supernatural, all powerful being. If you still hold on to the Big Bang show me an experiment of something coming out of nothing? You ask for prove of God. Prove to me how something like the matter or gasses of the big band can just exist from nothing. Since nothing can come from nothing there must be a creator who brought things into existence from nothing. This creator is God.
@@Norbert4ty5828 big bang theory (coined by astronomer Fred Doyle)is a theory that everything started at once,...supported by a theory that an explosion that happened must have left a sound echoing through space,...scientists set a giant sound checking device (ear) to detect the sound in all directions of space,...they were successful,winning a Nobel Peace prize. .........man is programmed to see things all around us as having a beginning and a an end , life and death ,.......that's why man cannot understand these concepts.(always existing and creating something from nothing ).......If God created the universe in that way,it makes sense, ...the bible says that the stars were created all at once (Job38.7) and also he is stretching out the heavens (they are expanding )and (in the beginning he created the heavens and the earth ).......even humans are created from a tiny cell that expands into the human form.......But most Christians do not believe we have evolved, ....the bible says we were created perfect and then deteriorated in time.
The Big Bang was named by Hoyle but was originated by a Catholic priest and scientist named Lemaitre . Most Christians do accept evolution. There’s a small bunch of fundamentalist science deniers who don’t and even those fundamentalists are basing their beliefs about the science on false or misleading information given out by creationist pseudoscience organizations
Except there are no legitimate problems here.
"It is not the aim of science to open a door to infinite wisdom, but to set a limit to infinite error."
- Bertold Brecht
Then explain why science constantly changes. For example flat earth theory and the sun revolving around the earth. Much of science is observation and extrapolation based on perhaps.
@Nehemiah Scudder oh yes science did say the earth was flat and just like today they threatened death to anyone that disagreed go read history if not for the queen of Spain Columbus was on the chopping bp9ck.
@Nehemiah Scudder Can science explain dreams?
@Nehemiah Scudder How does science explain dreams? The bible supersedes science therefore science can not be used as a yardstick to cross examine the bible.
Conclusion reached resulting from observation and experimentation is a layman's definition of science.With no result seen science can not reach any conclusion
@Nehemiah Scudder The very definition of science admits that the bible supersedes science. Therefore this is a dead end for you.
Science is only limited to things that are observable , and is capable of being experimented upon..Everything outside of that is not scientific..
There are many things that are not scientific but yet exists.
Who talk about talking snakes and so forth?...You atheist guys are so stuck in a perpetual stage of adolescence
With no result seen science can not reach any conclusion..Psychology can reach but not physical science..except theoretical physics
Honestly for my whole life I have wanted to trust the bible implicitly. But for me I just have noticed so many things for my self that didn't add up. But I genuinely wanted to believe it all to be true. Its been an internal struggle most of my life. I am a JW but have been inactive for several years. I don't blame anyone for wanting to believe in a creator or in the bible and if they live as better people for it good on them. I have also taken issue with many thing especially the cherry picking of carbon dating. It just always felt disingenuous to me. But ultimately there are parts of me that wish I could be simple minded and not question things. It seems like such a simple life.
I used to be envious of people who could just read something and believe. Meanwhile I stay up for days at a time researching little details, I hate it. One thing that has always bothered me about religion in general is when you would pose a logical question that was very sound and had no biblical reason, you are met one of two ways. Your an apostate or you just lack faith. Now I am not here to side with one or the other. Just to give an account of someone stuck in a sort of limbo for most of my life. Its a strange place to be when you question both sides of the argument. I have watched many debates and read many articles and haven't found my self satisfied by either side. One thing I did years ago I decided to not question or care anymore just live my life the way I wanted. I have no remorse or guilt I am actually much happier living in the now. Not that I'm trying to dissuade anyone from finding a god or religion. I just remember the countless nights of not feeling good enough for my inquisitiveness. I just accepted ill never be satisfied with any answer and quit caring from both perspectives.
Out of curiosity, have you ever read anything by Rob Bell? I recently read his book “What is the Bible” and was able to find a much deeper appreciation of a lot of biblical stories.
I don’t mean any offense in my reply, so sorry if that’s how it comes across. I just really enjoyed the book haha
@@whateven6694 no honestly I haven’t heard of him and I take no offense. I’ll take a look and give it shot I’m open minded I think it’s a disservice to be close minded to information
@@bubbythebrow153 I’m not entirely sure in my beliefs and am open minded as well! I thought I would share that book with you considering I noticed a lot of similarities between us from your comment and thought you might like to read it. Best of luck to you!
Any one who has no doubts is simple minded , but what I will say from observation of this evil world ruled by a cabal if the Bible isn’t true then you better lock n load cause there is NO HOPE. !
@@whateven6694 thank you. You as well!
This is great, thank you Lloyd. I also love the timestamps; I wish more channels would do this, especially for longer videos.
I was raised as a JW and left when I was around 17. As I started to fade out my mother pleaded with me to have a weekly bible study with an elder, to ease her mind I agreed. He was not an idiot and could tell that I was becoming sceptical of the whole thing. His big ace up his sleeve that proved the bible was the real deal was the verse you spoke about at 43:10 where Isiah spoke about the 'circle' of the Earth. He told me that back then everyone thought the Earth was flat, but here was Isiah, using the information he received from big J, talking about how it was round. For him, this proved that the bible was all factual truth. I looked straight up after reading this verse and said, 'but the Earth isn't a circle, it's a sphere.' 'Oh, same thing.' He says while brushing it aside.
What a joke.
*Life is short, eternity is forever. Ask Jesus Christ to forgive you of all of your sins and He will, and your soul will be saved.*
You haven’t thought about it, though. The earth is indeed a sphere, but if you were to go around it, which is what the verse is basically saying, “all around the world”, your path, as the crow flies, would be a circle. Overthinking it out of desire to find a fault.
@The Meaning of Life thats moronic. JWs believe god will create a paradise on earth for his followers, and those who do not follow gods instruction will return to dirt. athiests believe we turn to dirt regardless.
@@ralphpierroii4626 A path "all around the world" would not even be close to a circle. You cannot go from different parts of North America, Asia, South America, Europe, and Asia in a circle. And that's just by continent. If you were to go to only one place on each continent, you would be missing entire civilisations.
@The Meaning of Life how ridiculous. Atheism is not a religion and it definitely isn't the most comparable belief disposition to JW 😂 sounds like you want everyone who isn't your religion to soubd equally crazy
I’ll be calling my insurance company to inform them that their “acts of god” excuse is unscientific.
Odd that they never reclaim the cost from god eh?
The act of god is the insurance companies way of not paying claims asnd has nothing to do with God or the bible
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@@mako9579 Can I bring my Satanic Bible instead?
@@gengar6666 I personally would not identify with the number 666 the mark of the wild beast. 6 in the bible means imperfection and the fact there is three 6's the imperfection is especially bad. This wild beast was created and empowered by God's arch enemy and was given the number 666, denoting heightened imperfection. However the world admires and even worships the wild beast with its rituals. People who worship and do obeisance to “the wild beast” [ political entities ] and its “image” is linked with service, for the worshipers are identified as supporters of “the wild beast” and its “image”. These ones have the mark of the wild beast 666 on the hand or on the forehead (for all to see). You have it as your call sign.
To reply to a hour and 38 minutes of trying to find errors in the Bible will take a long long time, so i picked 1 verse out of many mentioned here.
1 Chronicles 16:30: Does the Bible Say the Earth Doesn't Move?
A frequent visitor to my blog left a comment where he alluded to biblical passages that speak of the earth not moving (geocentricism). He did not cite a specific verse but this is not the first time I heard that criticism so I'm aware of certain passages which are frequently cited in support of that claim. Perhaps the most frequently cited is 1 Chronicles 16:30 :
Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. (1 Chronicles 16:30)
At first hearing, this criticism seems to have legs (for any Bible critic reading this, I'm using an expression. The criticism does not "literally" have legs). The genre of 1 Chronicles is historical narrative - unlike Psalms which is Hebrew poetry. So when we read a passage like 1 Chron 16:30 in the midst of historical narrative, it seems as though the Bible might literally be saying the earth does not move. A quick look at the context, however, quickly dispels that notion.
First off, the passage is clearly introduced as a psalm (ie “song” or “prayer”) of David. 1 Chronicles 16: 7 says, " Then on that day David delivered first this psalm to thank the Lord into the hand of Asaph and his brethren." Like the book of Psalms, the passage uses poetic descriptions to convey spiritual truth - not necessarily literal truth. In the same passage (v. 32-33) David says that the sea “roars,” the fields “rejoice,” and the trees “sing.”
Why not the same critics who allege this passage endorses geocentricism, also assert the Bible teaches that trees sing? It's because they know that people will immediately recognize trees singing as an obvious use of metaphor. Yet they still quote v. 30 as though it's meant to be a statement of fact. This is a clear case of quote mining where critics cite a passage out of context in order to make it sound like the Bible says something that it clearly does not intend.
Another thing we must be careful to consider is what is meant by the use of words like "world" and "earth." Often, when these words are used, they are not referring to the physical earth but the people of the earth. This is demonstrated in the same verse in question. 1 Chron 16:30 says, "Fear before Him all the earth." Do you think this means the literal “earth” should fear Him or does it not more likely mean the people of the earth? It could mean the literal earth in the same sense that the “fields” rejoice. On the other hand, it could also mean the people of the earth. The Bible does use the words “earth” and “world” in that sense; H ere are some indisputable examples where this is so:
And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity. ( Isaiah 13: 11a )
And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed. ( Luke 2: 1 )
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. ( John 3:16 )
In these passages, and others, the word “world” clearly means the people who live in the world. No one, for example, could rationally argue that Luke 2: 1 means that the literal earth (that is, dirt and rock) is going to be taxed.
We also have to ask what is meant by "not moved." The most ordinary meaning, of course, is that it means “stationary” and that is what the critics who cite this passage claim it means. However, "not moved" can also mean "not moved from its course" or "unpersuaded." Psalm 21: 7 says, "For the king trusteth in the Lord, and through the mercy of the most High he shall not be moved." I'll ask you: does this passage mean the king is stationary or does it mean that he should not be moved from his trust in the Lord?
In conclusion, remember that this is a psalm. In a poetic passage that says the Lord established the earth that it should not be moved, it would be entirely unreasonable to interpret that to mean the Lord established the ways of the earth (or its people) and it / they will not be moved from the way He established? What is unreasonable is that critics (whether intentionally or by ignorance) ignore the clear context of a passage and assert the correct interpretation of an obvious use of poetry is that it is meant to be literal fact. It's no wonder that critics see the Bible as rife with errors. They obviously have trouble reading.
Plus a quick note also on on Psalm 104:8
Please read in context instead of trying to mislead people.
You said and displayed it in writing at minute 42:08
8 -Mountains ascended + and valleys descended -
To the place you established for them.
But if we read it in context
1 verse before and 1 verse after
7 But at your rebuke the waters fled,
at the sound of your thunder they took to flight;
8 they flowed over the mountains,
they went down into the valleys,
to the place you assigned for them.
9 You set a boundary they cannot cross;
never again will they cover the earth.
Obviously it is talking about the waters not the mountains and the valleys. Please do not mislead people.
P.S. this is a Psalm, the book of Psalms is poetry
Please do read the Bible in context and do a little bit more research on the type of literature of the text is written in, before trying to say that it is in error.
Thank you and be blessed in Jesus' mighty name.
The world don't move... It's Spins
Yada, yada, yada. You still need to explain that talking donkey thing in Numbers.
A fascinating analysis from an objective scientific perspective. 🧐How about the misleading biblical translations of the original languages used in the New and Old Testaments? In other words, scanning translations of grammatical and semantical mistakes. Do you think that Moses (being the alleged author) plagiarized the Code of Hammurabi?
You are beautifying paganism to yourself self saying god is man.
Would you like someone to call you women and then tries to make it sound nice.
4. Lo! as for those who believe
not in the Hereafter, We have
made their works fairseeming
unto them so that they are all
astray
5. Those are they for whom is
the worst of punishment, and
in the Hereafter they will be
the greatest losers.
*Turn back*
*There are a lot of triggerd and confused christian’s here*
Fax bro.. I came to this video to get support because if religious trauma, and all i got was a bunch of people telling me i will burn for all eternity.. Some Christians they are.. I thought they were supposed to be kind
@@NylCampaniolo Those Christians are going against Their own rule it’s insane to condemn people to hell
Well, I'm gob-smacked. If you're a bible literalist, or a Christian fundamentalist, and you're annoyed at this video, don't blame me, blame my Patreons.
Listen Pal, if you don't annoy bible literalist, or a Christian fundamentalists, then you're not doing your job properly!
Most everyone will agree that the Bible contains symbolic truth. The issue is to understand the literal Bible. For example we read that: "The eyes of the LORD are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good". Does God have literal eyes? Then we look at the cherubim in Ezekiel 10:12 and we see: "Their entire bodies, including their backs, hands, and wings, were full of eyes all around" So our literal understanding is that the Cherubim are the eyes of God. The Bible has to be properly translated and interpreted. Science tends to go with the best explanation we have until we have more information. As we continue to learn and increase in our understanding.
@@JohnR77 I think I'd rather believe "1984"
@@migranthawker2952 1984 was required reading back in the 60's. Because there is a lesson to be learned from that book. Even if the Bible were fiction, there would still be a lesson to be learned. The icing on the cake is that the Bible is literal and symbolic also. The Bible is not ONLY universal, the Bible is also timeless.
@@JohnR77 And you have the contradictions in the gospels rendering it nonhistorical.
@@todbeard8118 There is no contradiction between science and the Bible. They support each other.
The flood is always a good one, the idea that 8 people could gather and look after 8 million species, most of which were not local to Noah and most of which had not even been discovered at this time make it impossible by itself.
The older stories from which the Hebrews stole their variant, writing it to "one upman" the older gods by making their god more powerful, more wrathful etc. had only a LOCAL flood of Mesopotamia and thus only a few dozen sorts of animals that had to be saved, the livestock of one normal wealthy farmer and his family that accompanied him. The bible still retained the older value of 22 cubits of water (about 10m), but where that makes sense for the flooding of "Iraq", it makes zero sense for a flood covering everything including Everest!
@@Ugly_German_Truths The highest mountain in Mesopotamia is over 5500m, which would flood 90% of the world.
If the flooding was only local, it FAILED in its purpose to flood the entire earth, furthermore, if it was just local, then all the people and animals simply find higher ground.
However they try to explain it, it still fails.
Didn't need 8 million species.
You probably only needed around 30, 000 kinds of animals on the ark..you wouldn't put insects on the ark or marine animals.
@@IWITNESS7
Do you know what a species is? It is an animal which can only breed with its own kind.
Therefore, you can't just take a bird, you need EVERY species of bird. So you need Balckbirds, Thrushes, Sparrows, Swallow, Swifts, Owls, Flycatchers, Kestrels, Merlins etc.
Then you need to do that for EVERY species which can't survive a flood event.
8 people COULD not even look after 30,000 species.
Furthermore the majority of the world's animals do not live near to Noah, and were not known to him.
How did he get koalas, kiwis, crocodiles, polar bears, grizzly bears, kangaroos, hedgehogs etc if he hadn't even fucking heard of them?
@@sandersson2813 Plus the ark would need to have space to store a year's supply of food for each animal (which would take 3 times the space)--and since the earth would be covered in seawater--all possible crops and food supply would have been destroyed.
I spit out my drink laughing while I was watching a video of Aron Ra explaining that since Noah's Ark only had one window, the 8 people on it would have almost immediately died from methane gas poisoning from the animals farting and pooping!
Aron Ra does a great series of videos about Noah's Ark and the flood being impossible.
😂😂
Can you post the link plzzz
@@mileshul "How Aaron Ra Disproves Noah's Flood" is the playlist name
It makes no sense to make the universe so big if its sole purpose is to provide a home for humans.
I’ve often pondered the universe and what scientists tell us about it. Then I think that before that there was nothing. And then I ponder E = mc2. I mean God is omnipotent but the power involved in the creation of the universe is just so astonishing I never really know what to make of it.
@@redastair When mankind believed Earth was the only planet and all the stars were merely specs of light surrounding it, it made some kind of sense that the Earth was created for us by some omnipotent God. But now we know we're merely a spec in a very large universe (and that's only the bits we can see) it doesn't really make much sense at all. In fact, the only reason to carry on believing in God and creation (despite all the evidence to the contrary) is that you can't face the truth.
@@redastair the issue is thinking there was nothing before the universe as we know it. Science doesn’t make that claim, only religion does.
@@UltraBall23 My point was more around the absurdity of a God being so wasteful with energy - or even that considering what we know of mass/energy that somehow a God could bring what amounts of a universe of mass, multipled by the speed of light squared and yet unable to do more about what happens in that universe. I'm not a believer.
You're right that science doesn't claim an empty state. That obviously has its own challenges and questions but, at least to me, is a more honest starting point.
well we are a bit wasteful
After Adam and Eve ate of the tree of knowledge, god says, “now they have become like us, in that they know right from wrong”. A couple of points: 1) Who is “us”? How many times are we told there is only ONE GOD?
2) Obviously, before they ate from the tree, they did not know right from wrong. How can a just being punish those who do not know what wrong is? Further, how can the being punish all descendants of those who didn’t know right from wrong?
Good questions... I believe god refered to himself as "us" and jesus later let's us know that he is part of that "us" 3 parts to one JUST being. Adam and eve didnt know right from wrong because wrong had never been committed however adam was given 1 law, god instilled basic laws or " comandments" upon creation but gave 1 verbal law not to eat of the fruit, not only did he give law but also consequence if the law was broken, I do this with my kids all the time... anyways, my opinion, hope it helped...
@@1adameverest so, I can assume that you will punish your grandchildren for the transgressions of your children?🤔
Well again, god gave law and consequence, he told adam what would happen if he did not obey. Just like my decisions will definitely effect my children, grandchildren like my father and mothers effected me. Yes, however, as a child of christ we avoid a spiritual judgment by recognition of christ... that he was sent by the father... the bible says Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to cling to, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And then goes on to tell us that by this belief we receive salvation, not condemnation, so by belief in christ, we can and accept discipline now and avoid eternal punishment... again, my opinion... I hope this helped
Side note, when god created man he also stated " Let "US"make man in "OUR" image... our first hint that the son was there from the beginning which jesus later tells the pharisees throughout the gospels...
@@1adameverest Omnipotent beings sure do employ inefficient means of getting their important messages out, huh?🤔
@@EmersumBiggins lol... not really... I think we confuse things and complicate matters... jesus gave us 2 commands before he left, love god first and love one another and by doing this all of his commandments will be honored... just love man, no judgement, just love...
I was talking to a snake the other day who was complaining about god punishing him when it was satan's fault and lizards still had legs.
The donkey tells a different story.
Brad if you were talking to a snake today the guys in the white coats would lock you up. Why does the snake in genesis have to be an actual snake? Snake in the bible is used in a number of different ways. Satan is referred to as a snake because of the way he conducted himself. Have you heard the saying, "You are a Snake". What do you you think that means? Satan was the one responsible as the caretaker of the garden. He could have made himself a visible human like creature as other angels in the bible did with a mouth that could speak. Taking everything in the bible literally will head you down the wrong road everytime
@@ronhansen8471 The Bible doesn't say OR insinuate anything you just asserted. Calling someone a snake in the Bible is a general insult. In fact, the god character curses the snake to crawl on his belly after that fable. If it was talking about Satan, there would have been no need to curse a reptile.
The Bible is speaking of a literal talking snake and that's not something that happens in reality.
@@thomasrevere1728said: The Bible doesn't say OR insinuate anything you just asserted.
Ron's response: About a snake being a spirit creature the materialized in the flesh. If you read other chapters in the bible you will find that other angels [ Gabriel being one of them ] came to earth as humans to give God's servant a message.
@Thomas Revere said: Calling someone a snake in the Bible is a general insult.
Ron's response yes it is. Common expressions that include calling someone a rat, snake, pig, or shark are metaphors. Calling someone a snake is implying that person is sneaky and hiding something.
@Thomas Revere said: In fact, the god character curses the snake to crawl on his belly after that fable. If it was talking about Satan, there would have been no need to curse a reptile.
Ron's response: This is what I find interesting about most people and the bible they read everything literally.
Using the snake is a fitting metaphor for what Satan made of himself.
@Thomas Revere said:The Bible is speaking of a literal talking snake and that's not something that happens in reality.
Ron's response: How did you come to that conclusion? It should be common knowledge that snakes cannot utter a sound of any kind. The bible said that Satan was the one that deceived Eve and uses a snake as a metaphor to describe Satan. We know that angels could materialize as humans as well as other figures and Satan was the caretaker of the garden as an anointed high ranking Cherub angel. When Satan violated his position and turned against the true God he became a snake, a resister and a devil among the many metaphors used to describe him. After Adam and Eve were evicted from the garden two visible angels stood guard at the entrance for 1640years.
@@ronhansen8471 my whole point is that god wouldn't have cursed a real snake if it weren't an actual snake that he was talking about in the first place. Furthermore, a donkey never talked in real life.
If jesus was god, he would've known that the fig was out of season and there was no need to curse the tree.
There was never a worldwide flood like the Bible says there was.
The entire creation story is a load of BS.
Slavery is wrong, unlike what the Bible says.
I could go on and on, but I'll just make the overarching point. The Bible is a horrible book that nobody my should defend.
Thanks so much for the chapters & timestamps in the description!
I’ve found my new favourite video on TH-cam. I suffer from insomnia and I like the subject matter well enough to want to listen to it... but your voice soothes me so much that I am yet to finish the video. I will finish it eventually after getting some much needed rest. ❤️
Wow ... this is nice ...I am from Kerala (India) born and brought up in a Syrian orthodox Christian family and I was a Sunday school teacher too. One day I started asking questions myself and to parish elders about biblical narrations...but never been answered ....or the answers that I got was not satisfactory for me.Then I quit practicing religious things and now I am cornerised 😀. Well... this presentation saying that I was not wrong.... Thanks.
keep looking for answers. You don't always find them immediately.
Very interesting little presentation lol, though it's a shame you were cornerised (assuming I'm understanding right and you mean something along the lines of being ostracized), also not related to the topic of religion and faith but Kerala is a very cool sounding name for a place India has some really neat sounding location names.
If you have time please to read quran
Does science answer your questions? If yes, then go with science. If no then you might like to reconsider
please don't close your eyes to the only Saviour of the he world only to open it in hell fire..... please rethink.... you can be a Sunday school teacher and still not know the Lord.... if a little confusion can make you changed your mind about jesus... then you have never be a christian in your life.... those WHO truly know jesus believe him even to the point of death... you better go back to the only way back to God before it is too late for you.... jesus is the ONLY SINLESS SAVIOUR of sinners
Regarding your disclaimer, you don't understand how the fundamentalist mind works like the creationist or the fundamentalist literalist mind works. The fundamentalist literally will say that if something in science doesn't match the Bible in other words Bible gets wrong according to science, then it is actually science that is wrong and the Bible that is correct no matter what the evidence shows. One even said if the Bible said that two plus two equals five he would believe it no matter even if he didn't understand it.
I would rather choose to seek knowledge than ignorance.
Creation ministries international is a great place to verify said comment
@@silvanofungomeli757 The really crazy part to me is that those same fundamentalist literalist creationists will claim that science is on _their_ side! It's like having their cake and eating it too-- it doesn't matter what science says, the Bible is the only true source of knowledge. But luckily science is in complete harmony with the Bible, scientists are just conspiring to prop up evolution theory. Ugggh
In history every time the bible had a scientific truth people later found out the bible was correct & science of the day was wrong. There's never been anything in the bible that was proven wrong.
Here are some bible science things.
Science: 1 peter 3:15 (reason, hope): Genesis 1 (scientific method),job 26:7
(earth free floats),26:10 (spherical nature of earth), Isaiah 40:22 (circle of
the earth, “klug” round or spherical), 40:12 (isostasy) ,Colossians 1:17 (Laminin all things hold
together), Hebrews 11:1(faith is…), Jeremiah 33:22(innumerable stars), job 28:25(air has
weight)38:16 (ocean has springs), habakkuk 2:14 (knowledge creation), job 36:27-psalms 135:7 (rain cycle), 1 Corinthians 15:41(each star different), job 38:19-20(light
moves),Ecclesiastes 1:6 (wind blows in cyclones),2 Samuel 22:16 & Jonah 2:6
(ocean floor has mountains and valleys), Leviticus 15:13 (disease precautions),
17:11(blood is health & life), 12:3 (blood clotting drops on 8th day),
Hebrews 11:3 (everything made of invisible elements “atoms” before there
was a name for them), Genesis 7:22(everything breath in nostrils on ark), 7:14 (kinds) ,1:22
(fruitful), 1:24-25 ,6:20 (species have a “kind”), 1-3 (scientific
method), 6:15 (ship dimensions), Rom. 1:20 (invisible attributes), Jeremiah 33:25
(laws in the universe), psalms 8:8 (parts in water)
Many people try to equate the bible with scientific processes. The very first chapter of the Bible states that an Entity created Time, Space, Matter, Energy, and Physics from nothing. Not only that, there are other instances where the Bible states that the Entity can alter time, space, matter, energy, and physics at will. To top that off, the Entity can alter your mind and memories... To try to claim scientific errors with an Entity that can do those things would be a fruitless endeavor.
Non-spiritual food at the right time
right after my meeting 🤫
@@christianmarx3249 Friday evening meetings? Ugh, sorry. I wouldn't have even stood for that in my PIMI days
Actual food for coherent logical thought. A far richer sustenance for the mind
Love this! 😁😁
So God cannot lie? Not omnipotent.
The problem with this is when you argue any of these points to a witness, they will always throw up the argument that it's not literal. The entire belief system is based upon frivolous fluctuations between the literal and the figurative.
nah, a witness will just run away from the scary apostate!
I asked a Christian how dinosaurs fit into Genesis if god supposedly created all life and man within a 7 day period, and there’s some who say “it doesn’t mean 7 literal days” while others believe that humans and dinosaurs existed at the same time, or some Christians think that dinosaurs are fake
When are you going to discuss the next page (page 2) of the bible?
Very interesting video Lloyd I'd like to commend you for all the work you've put into the video, for years I've been questioning the Watchtower and it's teachings, many of the things you mentioned in this video I've looked into and actually questioned.
So this is a rebuttal of the Watchtower Society but claims to be about Christianity?
I find it so hard to believe that a perfect entity would be jealous?
Making God out to be a dangerous and violent alcoholic father who can read your mind is what’s kept Christianity alive low these many years since the Enlightenment happened.
It is way easier to believe that man made God like that in man's image.
BINGO. I've always mistrusted god for that reason. I sort of catch myself saying, well F'k off then god, you created me, I displease you. Instead of simply destroying me and starting over, You'll just watch me suffer, blame me for all my mistakes, and refuse to accept that I was your mistake. Guess what god? I don't like you either.
@@timothypfalzgraf7758 I went through that phase right before cutting the last strings of theism. Gods don’t exist. Free yourself from that bs.
We determine our purpose and the value our own lives.
Also religion is fucking dangerous and killing humanity.
BOOM !
The light (truth) you bring will erase the darkness that has blinded man for thousand of years. Thank you.
and not everyone that is Christian smart enough just like when the bible says the moon was emitting light it was actually reflecting light even john in revelation was describing the missles and helicopters and nukes in silos wasn't even remotely on point but he definitely wasn't smart enough to explain it I out of those people know and understand the word way better than anyone I don't need to say the bible is poem because there are reasons behind every verse
@@MzLeOBaBy24 Yes, you are special, you have acquired special intelligence and knowledge. Next, punctuation.
@@Letts_prey lol english was my worst subject
The Bible says in John 3:16-36 that whoever believes in the Lord Jesus Christ shall not perish but have everlasting life, the Bible also says in Romans 10:9 that those who declare with their mouth that Jesus Christ is their God, Lord, and Savior they shall be saved. Revelation 1:8 says that Jesus is the alpha and the omega. Luke and revelation is the ending times, and Jesus is returning back. So are you going to submit your life to him or no? Narrow is the path that leads to the gates of heaven, but only few people find it. The gates that is the path to destruction is where many people find it! Jesus loves you SO MUCH! That he died on the cross, and was resurrected from the dead 3 days later to give us eternal life..’znz.’znznznznz
Awesome eyeopener, hello from the Philippines! Thanks Lloyd, BTW what's the song title of the video intro and outro? It's beautiful.
If the bible is too difficult for you to understand don't worry you not alone .
The song is Not Forever
@@talicatinai2637 It's called being poorly written.
In reference to #9, I was on mushrooms with a buddy about 25 years ago and we were walking around at night in the hills at the lake, and it looked to me like we were in a giant snow globe. Was pretty cool! And when I was pointing that out to my buddy, he said ya it does look like that, then he said "and do you see the pillar there?", and I had no idea WTF he was talking about so we just laughed our asses off and moved on to some other dumb topic...
I totally forgot about that til this video LOL
Thanks for the awesome memory!
Too funny!
I took mushrooms once when I was 23, decades ago.
There was a woman that everyone was gaga over. But in my mind, her eyes were gigantic and saucer like... I remember thinking, "she's not pretty at all!!!"
I hope I didn't say it out loud...😳
Cheers!
Abelis The "I hope I didn't say it out loud..." also brings back a lot of memories. LOL
Good times.
@@slakjawnotsayin5451
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Interesting, maybe I could try some mushrooms too before reading the bible. I think it would help me to understand the bible.
@@TubeSkaterRudy Naw, the bible is already completely misunderstood and not actually read through by 99.99999999% of the people that claim to believe in and worship the words within that crappy book...
If you want to actually read the bible, go to Amazon and grab the "Holy Bible - Best God Damned Version - The Books of Moses" which is lot more interesting and summarized read of the Old Testament! Then if you want, compare it to the actual bible if you want to confirm it's legit and accurate!
It made me laugh out loud a few times when it would tell you what's in the chapter or section of the bible, then would comment on the situation. That book was the absolute best and my most favorite book out of all the books I have read!
People don't actually read the bible because it's ridiculous and obvious fiction, as well as proven without a doubt to be absolutely inaccurate, which you will know for sure by reading over and actually putting some real thought into the first paragraph of the bible. Where the author of the first section was way behind on a few very major scientific discoveries since his time...
The obvious hilarity as well with the entire rest of the bible is the amount of effort that was put into trying to trick other people into believing that the people of the times fictional ideas were instead real true, when they were obviously either mentally ill or they were on a mission to obtain followers for their own groups, through manipulation using mostly scare tactics and threats, with a few really sad little parlor tricks they somehow apparently pulled off to convince some very over or under exaggerated amounts of people around them depending on the situation.
So much of the bible is trying to cover and back pedal over lies that were told previously, which would either just completely contradict and change all of a sudden to something completely different with a new narrative as well, or the lies would be continuously be mentioned as a constant brainwashing reminder, but would slightly include little twists and details to bend their meaning and purpose.
To be completely honest, the bibles entire content is borderline retarded, and is obviously meant to target and manipulate the massive population of like minded individuals that are unfortunately born and brought up into the areas that the bible is worshipped, and the same goes for all of the other 4000+ other gods and 4000+ other worshipped religions that parents continue to abuse or allow their children to abused by others with, from the earliest of ages!
Good luck letting someone grow up completely void of theistic influences and child abuse messing up their proper thinking and educated minds, then when they are around 18 years of age and have experiences reality without influential mind f**kery, tell them all about any of these worshipped books of BS, and see how they react to this information you try to get them to follow! LOL
I say it's mass child abuse on a global level, because it implants other peoples beliefs in that many children's minds from the start of their lives when they are most influential, vulnerable, as well as gullible, that were passed down through generations of absolute ignorance, which causes mass amounts of the human population on this planet to instantly defend and or dismiss all natural as well as educated thought toward forming their own educated opinions or ideas about what they were told, and lead to believe as a result. I don't know about you, but I feel like that is a pretty horrible thing to do to developing children that one day become adults that will instantly shut down anything that suggests they might have been mislead their whole lives, and prevented from trying to figure anything out for themselves because they were told not to try to be more smart than the magic old invisible giant man that made the human species out of dirt like a little sand castle, then breathed his magic invisible life breath into the dirt mans nose to bring the little dirt man to life, so the giant magic invisible old man, which would mean he would have a penis in order to be a man, which is what our species calls a "man" because a man is one of the only actual 2 types of our entire species, that uses a penis as it's normal human instinctual reproductive organ to reproduce, which is our only actual purpose and "Meaning of Life" that people just can't ever figure out, because they are too concerned with these ridiculous BS fictional stories from the simple minds of our ancestors thousands of years ago, before our species was able to look into microscopes and telescopes, to see well beyond their immediate line of sight everywhere their self important lives roamed...
Believe those old books, or else!!!
Or else what?
Oh, you will see when you are dead and your brain no longer forms thoughts and no longer retains memories, because your blood stops flowing and supplying your body with everything it needs to function!
But then how would I be able to remember anything that was processed as thoughts in my physical brain that I had when I was alive, and be able to continue being anything that I was as a person while living on a cloud that is above the snow globe above earth, that holds the water out so it doesn't flood the earth again when the god from the bible communicates with a single person again in that persons head, and tells him the exact plans that are required to build a giant ship out of wood that can sail the entire planet, just like that 550 year old man named Noah did when he traveled the entire undiscovered world on his ark so he could pick up those kangaroos and koalas and penguins and all those other animals him and his sons somehow convinced to climb aboard their boat, so the god could then COMPLETELY MURDER ALL OF THE HUMAN SPECIES with a massive flood where he opens the top flood gate and pours the water in from above, and the one below to also shoot the universe water from outer space in from under the snow globe like dome that the god created when he separated the waters to form an area for our flat 4 corners of earth that was created on the 3rd day, before the sun and moon were created, which somehow all 4 of those days somehow took place and happened without the earth rotating around the sun, but the sun and moon are actually in the dome live in that holds the water out..............
And this is exactly why the bible, and all other ancient absolutely uneducated and obviously very simple minded authors from a couple thousand years ago and more, are historical thoughts of fiction as they tried to make sense of their lives and their surroundings... And which is why you weren't brought up to realize that the bible is a book that nobody reads from page 1 all the way through to the end, just like ALL other books other than reference books without stories of any sorts, but the bible is all stories, and they are really terrible ones at that! LOL
Nice video. Can you make such a video on Koran ? Islamic scholars keep on saying that Koran had mentioned a lot of things which the modern science is now discovering.
quran all miracles are correct and proven
"But you can't take the bible so literally!"
"Okay, I guess then it's complete nonsense."
I take it literally - it is literally full of bullshit.
Be fair. Without the Bible I would not know which child to feed to what wild animal or when. How can I be a proper person without that knowledge?!
You should take Bible cosmology literally because it's true. You'll find modern cosmology to be the myth if you care to investigate and question assumptions.
@@courageousdose *laughs*
NASA cartoons and theoretical physics aren't evidence.
"Religion is our first, and therefore our worst attempt to explain the things we do not understand" - The late, great Christopher Hitchens
well you are religious as well.... you have to BELIEVE that there is no God... which is a religiousl statement. you have to BELIEVE that you originate from apes.... since there is no scientific evidence to support that... so you are MORE religious than you want to admit, or acknowledge.
@@thewaytruthandlife I believe there is no Loch Ness monster. Is that a religious belief?
But, wait a moment. Are you saying not believing in god is a bad thing BECAUSE it is religion!!?? Is religion bad?? I'm confused.
@@juanausensi499 to keep it simple: yes and no !!
Is loch ness monster a God ?? no than that part is not a religion in itself.
When the existance of Loch ness monster as a dinosaur is PART of the religion in whether God exists or not that is part of a religious assembly/ a religious set of believe statements.
Now since the existance of loch ness 's Nessie Is related to the idea that the flood took place and thus is associated to whether the bible speaks the truth or not... that is indeed religious connected.
so yes and no...
@@thewaytruthandlife Ok... so, not beliving in Loch Ness monster is religious or not depending on if there are people that consider Nessie a god or is present somehow in their religious beliefs.
So my conviction is religious/not religious depending of external factors that maybe i don't even know. So i can have a conviction and i it's possible to me to not be able to know if it's religious or not. It's... weird.
Also, then you and me have a lot of religious beliefs in common! We both don't believe in Zeus, Thor, Ganesha or Ahura Mazda! Our religious stance is almost the same, there is only one god difference.
@Mike Seork you may wish such.... but you're wrong... I used to be an atheist so I know the difference.
dude, the knowledge the prophets had wasn't always literal, and God made it simple for the people of the time to grasp. For example, when Moses said that god made us from dirt and his breath, it symbolizes our bodies and souls. Moses wouldn't understand if god said '' you're carbon-based organisms". Dirt symbolizes carbon molecular chemistry. Dirt is what Earth's land mainly consists of, and carbon is one of the most dominant elements of Earth. There are also misinterpretations of the bible due to the catholic church. The flood didn't happen worldly but only in Mesopotamia. What you say are inaccuracies is just you misunderstanding the bible
But if god HAD said "you're carbon based life forms" that would have been a huge flag to future generations about the biblle about divine origins. But of course it doesn't. The bible simply relfects the ignorance of the desert tribesmen living in the bronze age who made it up.
@@richardgregory3684 if God had directly said that we're carbon based lifeforms then the people of that age wouldn't understand what He meant. Imagine a farmer 3000 years before listening to that. He could never believe or accept it. He wouldn't even understand. That's why god says things in a way that everyone understands. For example, John in revelation said that the stars will fall. Now we know that those are not stars but satellites. John said that with the mark of the beast we can be located everywhere and the Antichrist will know where we are. Now we know that John talked about a kind of tracking device in the form of a microchip. It's obvious that when sth is metaphorical we shouldn't look it at face value. Now you might ask what's metaphorical. An easy answer would be, the parables and the visions. Both genesis and revelation were visions, and not sth that Moses or John actually experienced.
Had I known this growing up in my sect (protestant baptist in europe) it would have been sooo much less stressful and I'd not have wasted youth years of deep anxiety watching out if the moon and stars were no longer in the sky but falling all over the place, announcing the beginning of the apocalypse. I was deadly scared of having last-minute sinned, even though my life was only about being beaten up and yelled at by my mother, endless chores, going to school and of course lots of church meetings, services and watch-nights (all night services 6 pm-6 am non stop). But still... you're still so scared of going to hell. What a waste of time!
Sorry for what you’ve been through.. unfortunately that’s what happens when believers are refusing to ‘THINK’ for whatever reason.
@@mako9579 thank you 🙂
@@kevinsykes699 thank you, yes you're so right..
Am so sorry. It goes to show that we've always got to investigate whatever someone tells us, be it our religious leaders or the scientific community. Most people who go through this don't just wanna try something different. They are just too afraid to make changes. They are not adventurous enough. They show gullibility by trusting others completely and distrusting themselves. Believe in yourself, research.
@The Meaning of Life yep, totally free, and happy, not like before! :)
As a speaker of American English I am intrigued by your pronunciation of the word SAYS. We say SEZ, but I like the sound of SAYZE. Excellent content and illustrations. By the way, I boosted the audio speed to 2X and found the everything quite comprehensible. Keep up the good work, please.
Our planet Earth is very small unit or particle in our Galaxy or milkyway
There are billions of Galaxy or super nova in the Cosmo.No.body exactly knows where it starts or ends
I'm from the UK and nobody I've heard pronounces it like he does, it's unique to him.
It's obvious that sayze is the correct way to pronounce says, pronouncing it as ses is just lazy
@@PortlandMan Then literally everyone must be lazy then. I reiterate: I've heard nobody else say it thus.
It's dialectal, I've heard it in certain parts of the uk
I'm wondering why God would need to rest. If God needs to rest that means God gets tired, may even need to sleep. Although creating everything is quite a feat, I still don't think of a perfect, omnipotent, omnipresent God as needing to rest.
it's amazing our capacity to believe bullshit. Just because someone who provides you food, shelter, and community (parents/church) claims something to be true, you are likely to go along with it to keep getting the food, shelter, and community. Combine that with highly developed techniques used to suppress critical thinking skills, and you have the world religions.
@@akunog3665 If there were never any religions, time travel would be possible right now.
God rested,in the sense that he has finished his creative work on earth.
@@ndubuisiezeoye2099 "God rested,in the sense that he has finished his creative work on earth."
So he moved on? to what? What is he using his infinite power to accomplish now?
@@akunog3665 God is using his infinite power now to protect his people and to keep the preaching work going(John 5:17,2Samuel 22:1,2, Mathew 24:14) That is why the preaching work keeps going on despite opposition.God will soon use his power in a grand style at Armageddon when he will ultimately eliminate his enemies and save his people.(Revelation 16:14,16)
It's a pity that religious leaders today are misrepresenting God,but, that doesn't mean that God doesn't have a people (an approved religious organization)
"It is not a science book, but when it mentions scientific matters it is always accurate." Eye roll...ummm, no.
Exactly!! 🙄🙄🙄
And not being able to acknowledge inaccuracies almost makes people even less credible. Like just admit it. “Hey I still believe this, but yeah there are also things that don’t add up.” Not that it matters, but I would respect that answer a lot more.
It is accurate. Are you so sure you're not greatly deceived?
100% positive! Thanks for asking!
@@saffronhammer7714 I pity you.
How can it be that God knowing the end from the beginning came to regret making mankind due to their bad actions which went contrary to
god's will?.
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There is no beginning or end to know. God gave free will. If it is abused it will result in suffering. We have free will to ignore God's will and it will result in suffering. Although we figure it doesn't apply to us. Put you hand in the fire and suffer. Ignore the Commandments and we will suffer. Obey the Commandments, to the letter, and suffering and sorrow will be unknown. It's not rocket science but not that easy to do.
@@mysticwine Then why does the Bible say in the beginning the Word was with God. If there wasn't a beginning. What he asked was if God knows our timelines from the beginning and end then how do we have free will since he knows our lives and what we will do already. He's asking why are we penalized for his actions and our nonfree will if he's the beginning and the end and all-knowing.
@@pandemicmbm9176 There is no beginning or end to existence. Beginning and end belong to creation of the universe. The universe and existence are 2 different animals.
@@mysticwine you are missing the point. One that statement can not be proven at all even. He's clearly talking about our timeline of existence, so even if your statement of there is no beginning or end is true, but we are not talking about that.
The writers of the bible were really clever,
They knew that if you had both sides of every argument you could never be wrong at any time
You meant is not from god but human writer
thanks for putting time stamps and verse references this made it way easier to read along
Only 40?...There are thousands!
You should read Quran too brother, Bible has been corrupted in 6 th century by King James. Only uncorrupted religious book in the world is Quran.
Told by William More 200 years before who was a biggest critique in Islam. Watch Zakir Naik Quran and Modern Science Compatible or Incompatible video.
Can you just give me 1 then? There are NO erros in the Bible, i'm here to help.
At least man. There's more holes in the bible than a pub dart board
@@andrewloretta4523this video gives you 40 like he said. If you are here to help then help me understand why you believe the bible stories but not the Roman version of events, which actually do have real evidence to support what they say?
24:17. JW’s say that God created the earth over the period of six thousand years because six literal days doesn’t add up scientifically. They use the verse 2 Peter 3:8 “but you must not forget this one thing, dear friends, a day is like a thousand years to the Lord, and a thousand years is like a day.” To support this claim.
And the bible say "And there was evening and there was morning" every day.
Even if a day is a thousand years the earth is way older than 6 thousand years old
DID YOU KNOW....
According to the Bible it is legal to sell your daughter as a servant (sex slave). Exodus 21:7-11 Smdh
There were Five Vedas given to mankind from God the fifth Veda is Sukshuma Veda Satan destroyed fifth Veda God came on earth and had one of his disciples rewrite again.Listen to creation of nature by Saint Rampal ji Maharaj listen to all five videos with English subtitle .we never had a enlightened Guru to explain us Sant Rampal is only true Guru in this whole world and he is the savior of the world.
@@sumidutt3773 Prove it.
@ Clifford Gooden ... You must know what is written in Exodus 21-7-11 is not practiced in Christianity. This is practiced in Islam now-a-days too. Recently one Afghan lady left Afghanistan with her two younger daughters said to the news anchor that her husband is a member of Taliban fighters, once he gone his home and taken his eldest daughter to serve as a sex slave for the fighters and repeat the act with his second daughter. I am no one to blame any religion. It's a fact. Please watch the videos of Afghanistan after Taliban took over, you will find what I said.
@@thomasjoseph965 lolol its in the bible but it doesnt count.
Did you know that there were different cultures just like in today's world, that lived a life of sinful-warped ideals?!?! As it was, still is! To follower of God these actions are forbidden!
Just another example of twisting Gods word to fit another agenda. The real reason this happens is people dont want to face the truth, the truth can sting like a jellyfish! The truth is (YOU) who do not believe, also does but will not accept it, because your life,...everyone's life is sinful and unbelief is a way of hiding yourself, believing that your Sin goes unseen! Well its seen alright, and the stain of it will remain until you have excepted the truth that God is all powerful and Christ Jesus is your Savior, and only through Him sins, are forgiven, and only through Him can you enter the Kingdom of God
Those who wrote the bible were not up to standard.. in the late bronze age. The greek philosopher Demokritos said that the whole universe was built by atoms, that the stars were distant suns and that the universe was endless. Nothing about that in the bible.
I really like the science angle. Some of these were questions that I used to ask my dad (elder) as a kid
Zack Freeze said: I really like the science angle. Some of these were questions that I used to ask my dad (elder) as a kid
Ron's response: Why would you ask an elder science questions? They are shepherds not science teachers. The bible is not a science book.
@@francoisdebruyn4424said: Ron Hansen there is a 107 science facts in the bible that is correct, Pslms and Job etc. and 8 science statements that is not.
Ron's response: What are the 8 science statements you feel are wrong?
@@francoisdebruyn4424 I have no idea what Lloyds list is. But the earth supported on four pillars is not in the bible. Nor does the bible teach the earth is flat. It also does not teach that creation happened in a 24hour period but took time
Question poorly answered here.
What is elder? please
Moses was on magic mushrooms when he wrote Genesis and would you listen to someone with a beard ? Justin porter ex jw
Lol I always thought that Revelation was written by a schizophrenic.
You're on magic mushrooms if you believe this idiotic assertion.
And yet the Bible has withstood all attacks on it. Science is still stuck on string theory. Science can’t prove evolution. All they have are theory’s that they can’t prove. When are they going to start proving them. When Jesus Christ returns. I thought people where way smarter and they keep proving me wrong when they bring up macro evolution. Are you being serious. Do you understand that just one event is impossible (big bang) and your asking for another event (chemical explosion) natural selection now that’s a religion on it’s own. It’s impossible for two events to have happened and people believe this and you attack a Bible when your theory’s are impossible. Big bang 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Big Al In Leviticus on dietary restrictions unclean birds you could not eat ,mentions bats, the Bible writers didn't know bats are not Birds but mamals, in the Gospels epileptic fits ate caused by Demon attacks, deafness is caused by a death and mute spirit, Jesus thought the mustard seed was the smallest, he was wrong. When Satan took Jesus to a mountain top and showed him all the Kingdoms of the Earth ,both Jesus and Satan thought the world was flat. If you don't want to be a atheist agnostic, please do not read the Bible the Atheists' instruction manuel .Justin Porter ex jw ❤️
The Bible makes more sense when you consider that maybe the writers were just on DMT and hallucinating, which could explain their visions
I don't believe the Bible is meant to be a book of science (unfortunately fundamentalist take it that way.) I think it's got a lot of myths intermixed with some history, written by men with all different perspectives and agendas. Now, that's not to say myths and stories don't have truths built into them. (see Joseph Campbell among others, I suppose). Those myths are important to us as humans for sure, but so should be the search for scientific facts.
I agree, and that's why I, for once. skip a Lloyd Evans video. It just isn't very intresting to hear that they didn't get the science right more than 2000 years ago. Of course they didn't.
@@mailill pp
@@mailill I think it's interesting to see what people in history actually thought of their surroundings and natural phenomenon.
Why wouldn't "Gaawd" want to be accountably even on the science "His Word" contain? Because the Bible is not the "Word 'o Gaaawd", that's why.
Thank you for this video. It’s very well laid out. I am youth leader at a small church. Im excited to use your examples and let the students work these out for themselves. You seem like a very genuine person. One who id love to have tea or a beer with and just discuss these topics with no hidden agenda. Again, that you for your hard work in putting this together.
Ask a Christian a simple question and you'll get difficult nonsensical answers giving rise to more simple questions and getting more difficult nonsensical answers.
A Christian is not free from the title false prophet. They are everywhere. True prophets are very rare. We have to develope the ability to know the difference.
I'm here ti answer all of your questions, what do you need to know sir?
@@andrewloretta4523 The winning lottery numbers
@@mysticwine well you just proved that you CHOOSE to stay blind, you aren't really seeking the truth. Please stop lying about the Bible being wrong as it has never been proven wrong, if you have something to say about the Bible i'll be here waiting. Anytime we can schedule a debate with all of you at the same time, stop lying!
What science is telling how universe is created can you prove it? Show me one evidence which proves that how universe is created and which came first?
I live in Eastern Kentucky and u wouldn't believe how many people tell me I'm going to hell and a fool for not believing the bible is the word of god and literally true.
Is there a lot of interbreeding there?
Don't worry, it's all made up.
@@johnsmith-fz5pz yes
Not to worry from what I hear about East Kentucky, this will be an improvement.
Seriously though, you can't beat a bit of irony.
Only 40 ? That must be the selection of the "40 most obvious ones".
People are uncomfortable with abandoning old traditions .
What like celebrating Christmas, birthdays, Halloween etc?
Like evolution.
The very first page of the Bible claims that trees came before the sun.
As soon as you read that, that is when you should throw the bible in the garbage 🤷🏾♀️
i rather die knowing the truth, than to have lived a life fearing it.
Same! There’s an ex Jehovah’s Witness artist named Fifth (who has a great TH-cam channel as well) and some lyrics of his lyrics go: “I’d rather have questions I can’t answer, than answers I can’t question” 😲😲🤗
@Lee Abend But through trust in, and obedience to, Him.
@@zedolvero4515 I’ll give you the analogy of a six year old who can’t understand all his fathers ways but trust him because he knows that he loves him and “is” almighty. In the child’s eye, right ?
It is the same with the Heavenly Father. He has demonstrated His presence and His immense wisdom and power to us, so we trust things in the Bible even that we don’t have explanations for.
The Bible is Perfect.
@@zedolvero4515 Ex JW here...I will have to check that out. Slayer has 2 songs, Cult and God hates us all with poignant lyrics.
"Wasting your life in a leap of blind faith."
As the late great Richard Feynman put it
“I can live with doubt and uncertainty and not knowing. I think it is much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers that might be wrong"
Here's a scientific accuracy, " the love of most shall grow cold."
That’s on people! You don’t need the bible to show love and respect to others. If you need a book to tell you that. You need to check yourself!
@@richardcampbell6898 most people need the book,......many people confusingly believe that you have to earn respect, ...when it is trust you must earn ,.....but in actuality, it is respect that should be given.
@@mslice0760 I don’t think that’s quite true either tbh, I don’t think trust or respect has to be given to anyone. The point of my original comment was that thinking it has to be or to be told to is false, being good natured is the choice to do so even though you don’t have too!
@@richardcampbell6898 not trust,...but respect is given, .....in many cultures for thousands of years, ...the bible, confucius, etc......respect your elders, etc.,......it makes sense, .....but today, people have reversed it,......like bad,...is good.
@@mslice0760
Civility and courtesy are given, trust and respect are earned.
Christianity has a long history of making stuff up. The Nicene Creed pays close attention to divine hierarchy and is a masterpiece of inventiveness. In the case of the Bible, you don't have to go into detail to realize it consists of a number of human authors all saying different things in different books. If the Bible were the word of God, its content would be consistent throughout and full of wisdom. Instead, much biblical dogma borders on the suicidal. If you accept that the writers were human, they can be forgiven for their scientific inaccuracy; they were writing to reassure and inspire desperate, uneducated people long before the scientific revolution. So we must be careful of overdoing the 20-20 hindsight.
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Thank you for your efforts. Good to see when you find people that think just like you.
Indeed, it's nice to see people that remind us of ourselves, we all like people like us, don't we?
I always wondered why an omnipotent being needed to "rest" after "working" for 7 days. He's not mortal, so why was he tired?
He wasn't tired. He was just taking a break.
The creator was pooped😁
Claire, How dare u challenge and question God's authority. REPENT of your sins and be saved.
@@jimbobaggans1564 That's the question, Jim. Why would an all-powerful being *need* a break to begin with ;)
@@christianchristian6441 Prove to me that there is a god, prove to me that the one in whose name you speak is an actual god, prove to me that he/she/it/they has the right to have authority over me, and prove to me that I've sinned (after you describe exactly what "sin" is), and maybe we can talk. Otherwise, don't threaten me with consequences you also haven't proven exist.
The Bible is 100% accurate....
when thrown at close range
God declares the end from the Beginning. Even all the laws of physics were around 14 billion years ago. They are universal - the same everywhere in the universe.
@@JohnR77 Who convinced you to believe such a thing? Which god? There are literally thousands of gods humans have worshiped since the beginning of human belief systems.
@salaheddine bougouffa The rainbow is simply part of the electromagnetic spectrum. Your bigotry and hate are showing.
1:23:45 "If you ever see me fighting in the forest with a grizzly bear... HELP THE BEAR!"
his Kung fu, ........is better then your Kung-fu. ........you need a gun.....don't bring a knife to a claw fight..
Word to mystical!!
The guys that wrote that fairytale ''bible'' thing, had NO CLUE where our SUN went at night!.....let that slosh around a bit !
Just 3 errors in this list. Unfortunately, those three eliminate almost every point.
1. The Bible is not a scientific publication. Treating it as one leads to many of the points being wrong-headed. For example, Job is a book of metaphor closer to poetry than science. Psalms is a book of songs i.e. poetry again. Other books of the Bible contain poetry or other metaphors. The prophets use a lot of metaphors.
2. There is no recognition that the Bibel was written a very long time ago. To judge it by modern science is just foolish. For example, pi being referred to as being 3 and using an approximation of 3.14 show a lack of understanding of the history of mathematics. 3 is the closest rational number to pi, if you do not have a concept of irrational numbers 3 is correct. It is possible that some of the founders of mathematics may have known about irrational numbers but would that be used by authors of texts written at that time, no because it would not be understood. Other things fall into this as well, for example, the moon emitting light. But then again at a quantum level, it does :).
3. The interpretations used are cherry-picked from best know bad interpretations. Creation in six days is the most obvious. For a start, Genesis was written in Hebrew where "day" is a period of time where things happen that may be years in length. We use Day, in the same way, today e..g. "The Day of the Jackle (c)".
One extra bonus point. Some points speak out of silence. That is none of us know because there is no record, no evidence. The Biblical position could be more accurate than our current understanding because the evidence may have been lost or not yet discovered. See the story of Nazareth in the early 2000s.
Try looking at the Bible again but as books of literature and history. It is certainly better than taking a single-minded approach.
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So the creation story in the Bible is fiction?
What about the creation of Adam, the Flood, the Exodus, Solomon the great king who is absent from parallel human history, the stories of monsters, flat earth etc etc.
The only thing that is real about the Bible is that it is a book of fiction.
@@doyouknoworjustbelieve6694 I did not imply any of those points. The Creation story is interesting in that it is only a very short ancient account of Creation that demonstrates a view that is well ahead of what we would expect. Some of the events in the story are only now being recognized by science. For example, the separation of light and darkness and the formation of stars, planets, and other astronomical bodies. By the way, the separation of light and darkness is a reasonable description of what happened as the very early universe cooled. My point is that the Bible is not a scientific record of what happened, it is an account written by someone (traditionally believed to be Moses, other scholars think others). The theological view is that the writing is inspired by God. Please note, it took thousands of years for sciences to come to a beginning of the universe and many scientists still don't like it.
The creation of Adam is different, evolution presents the tree of life as an answer and the Bible says God made him from dust. I think we all have too many unknowns to be making claims of complete answers.
The Exodus, my view is that Archeology is still catching up with what happened that long ago. Clearly, there are big holes in any proposed account from so long ago. There are modern archeological finds and theories which support parts of the Biblical account and some which don't appear to. There are just too many unknowns. My point is that where there have been claims that are supposed to disprove the Bible, many have been proved wrong (see Nazareth for a modern example). We should not make assertions from silence. This is a fundamental concept to Christian theology. Not that it stops some from making such assertions.
One last comment on history. The Bible is part of Human History. When it is used to examine the past, it is treated the same way as any other historical source, it is viewed as a document with biases, all documents have biases.
Monsters in the Bible are either real animals (e.g. one to two-horned unicorns, rhinoceros) or attempts at descriptions of heavenly beings (e.g. angels) or metaphors in prophecy (e.g. the beast in revelation).
Your last point is patently wrong as the Bible does support historical accounts which are accepted as having really happened by the major historians that study those periods.
I suspect you are looking at these things from a limited knowledge set. One mistake many people make is to think that Christians are blind to many of these questions. They are not they have been studying them for centuries and understand them far better than most atheistic writers.
My challenge is to understand these things not to take a convenient argument given to me from a limited perspective.
In answer to the question "Do I know or just believe" the answer is both. Some things I know and believe, others I need to trust the source. When the source has been found to be trustworthy over many years and to many people it is not a bad thing to do.
If you read the creation story properly, you soon begin to understand, that everything prior to the creation of man himself is a description of man himself.
Agree. God’s story starts with mankind according to the Bible
Everything's spoken of prior to the creation of man in the Bible is described by a man true but inspired of God.
Please explain more
@@khrismoore1434 long story but it starts with heaven and earth. But you have light and darkness (hope andi no hope, evil and obedient (clean and unclean) and so on
@@khrismoore1434 I used to have a FB page about it.
I started to read Genesis and couldn't finish, it was absolutely ridiculousness.
40 authors, 1500 years, over 63400 cross references. Prove that. The Bible is true
the biggest innacury is the fact its written at all , its supposed to be a book written in jerusalem 2 thousand years ago but all the passages are from people with English names .
'Gates of Death'
Hmm, I had no idea the Bible was so Metal!
most metal satans from it also \m/
Haha I’ve been saying that lately about fundie nutjobs.
“They live in a Metal song.” Ironic, isn’t it?
@@hadara69 Now that you mention, I can Absolutely picture Jack Black rocking out and singing about a Bride Price of a Bag of Philistine Foreskins.
The Bible is an old book of Jewish folklore, nothing more. I prefer Star Wars for my spiritual enlightment, orthodox chapters 1-6, not heretical chapters 7-9
Foolish man!! Wake up amd stop being deceived by satan. Star Wars will not save u nor give u life. God's judgement and wrath will be upon unrepentant sinners!
Adam Hill said: The Bible is an old book of Jewish folklore, nothing more. I prefer Star Wars for my spiritual enlightment, orthodox chapters 1-6, not heretical chapters 7-9
Ron's response: Learning the language of the bible is needed to understand what the bible teaches? The bible is highly symbolic and if it is read literally as a secular novel it will sound like a fairy tale or an old book of Jewish folklore. Unfortunately very few people on this planet will master the abstract nature of the bible.
@@ronhansen8471 People tend to find whatever it is they are looking for when they read the Bible
@@adamhill4141 people do tend to find whatever it is they are looking for when they read the bible. Part of it has to do with the way our brain works but most of it is the poor teaching job by the religious leaders and peoples willingness to have their ears tickled.
@@ronhansen8471 If gods existed, if they had any power whatsoever, they wouldn't try to force us to worship them by producing poorly edited, inconsistent, morally repugnant, fairy stories, whose meaning requires deciphering by an ultra elite of sycophants.
I'm a Christian but I respect your view and opinions I will study these verses and see them in their context and if they are peotic etc but thank you for this video I'm open to learning all views 👍
Ok then ... I think u need to read Bhagavad Gita once.... U literally impressed with that
If u read that chapter he gave, u will know he never read bible
Hey Caleb's dad, you forgot to include the creation of the dinosaurs in your bedtime story, LMAO
Theres many historical evidence of cultures that tell stories of dinosaurs being hunted etc also there's been drawings and sculptures of what they saw, they were dinosaurs. they called them dragons, the word dinosaur wasn't a worse until the 1800s.
@@howtoskatewithanfour6889 So humans and dinosaurs existed at the same time?
@@howtoskatewithanfour6889 So, How come all remains of the dinosaurs we find, are millions of years old?
@@shakkarmusic alligators, crocodile, komodo dragons, lochness, giant squids and chickens. youre living with them now.
@@YDDES The whole passage in Job 40 concerning Behemoth certainly suggests a large animal, and no known living animal fits the passage adequately (for various reasons, including the detailed habitat presented).
The most natural interpretation of the key clause Job 40:17a is that the tail of Behemoth is compared to a cedar for its great size, and there is nothing in the context which contradicts this possibility, even though the exact sense of the verb is extremely difficult to determine.
Consequently, the most reasonable interpretation (which also takes the whole passage into account) is that Behemoth was a large animal, now extinct, which had a large tail. Thus some type of extinct dinosaur should still be considered a perfectly reasonable possibility according to our present state of knowledge.
Now many of the descriptions of dragons fit with how dinosaurs are described by modern scientists. evolutionists refuse to acknowledge it as valid evidence because of their belief that man and dinosaurs did not live at the same time.
How do you have liquid water, with no Sun? LOL!
I will ask again. Are you open to discussing your thoughts with scientists like Hugh Ross?
This guy is clueless about science . The sad part is that so many people believe what he says , as he twists and miss interprets the Bible .
@@tomlord4469 I agree. Would love for him to go over every point with someone like Hugh Ross on TH-cam but this might wreck his following.
@@darrellanderson6650 Good luck..Jesus rocks .
Hugh Ross totally misunderstands and reinterprets biblical verses by all means, because otherwise Bible is full of primitive nonsense.
@@haljordan9607 yea. I hate all the primitive non sense like love your neighbor, sacrifice for others, turn the other cheek, don’t judge others, take care of one another…blah blah blah. We should leave all that primitive stuff behind. Sorry for the sarcasm but just making a point about the real purpose of scripture.
The more I learn about science, the deeper my faith in God becomes!
You can say everything in the universe is a reason to believe in God. But how can you judge with certainty that it's biblical God?
Why is it that the Bible of all Divinely inspired scriptures is the true representative of God? Especially when it was compiled by corrupts. What does it have that no other scripture does.
It can't be the prophecies because the Hindus beat you to it.
The science is shaky
The historical accuracy for the Old Testament is also shaky
So what is it?
*Please don't mention that God has shown himself to you or that you had a dream or some shit like that because every religion says the same thing
Thanks
@HeavyMeddle301 Because science has become its own religion. When a Christian says they believe in something because the Bible says so, many Atheists and Agnostics lose their mind, yet do not see the irony when asked why they believe in a scientific claim, to say, because science says so. Same reasoning, different paradigm.
I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy. Medical 'science' just convinced the world a few years ago to take a bunch of experimental, side-effect inducing shots for a supposed virus that was never even proven to exist. Just shut up, don't ask questions, and trust the science! Safe and effective!
@@4theloveoftruth86 Nobody asked you to believe in a scientific claim because science. But rather because of the evidence that justifies it. Also, scientific modifications are frequently made when something new is learned. Unlike religion which is held in it's original state of beliefs based on a historical text with countless flaws.
@@4theloveoftruth86 You don't have to believe in Evolution or the Big Bang (I don't). But if you're gonna believe in God. What's the reasoning for the Bible being the correct representative of him?
That was my first comment that you conveniently skipped in favor of calling science a religion as an easy way out 🙄
I can hear my previous self in the background go: "but the laws of science can be bent if you made them up" 🙆🏻♂️🤣
Thanks for keeping us SANE my friend 😊💕
He is only Lost you more! To understand some to have to lower yourself to the context, time and audience its intended
They snatched your faith away, huh ? Do you know that that was prophesied ? 2 Thessalonians 2 first few verses.
Also read Daniel 8. It is about the first Gulf War and the subsequent fate of the USA. But you gotta drop the rejectionist attitude for when you read it. It ain’t gonna say “George Bush”, but it will cite him.
Wow. Just… wow. Thanks for reminding me I no longer keep pace with people like you. Strengthens my view that most Bible thumpers are cookoo 👍 I appreciate that
@@zedolvero4515 You read the chapter ? Or are you afraid you might find out it is true, and that therefore you need to go back on your knees to your Maker ?
See, you’re not even lifting a finger trying to discredit my point. My claim. I stand by it.
You’ll find confirmation of your apostasy everywhere you come across Christian claims that are not easily explainable through logic and science. That’s a fail ‼️
Those two creeps know much less that what they don’t know. At least do you not “😱Wow” that reflexively ?
@@zedolvero4515 You won’t listen anymore to a Bible thumper ... but you’re swallowing everything from statue toppling ‘Das Kapital’ thumpers Antifa and BLM, right ?
BAD trade off ... which you will rue bitterly when time comes if you don’t come to your senses. But that ain’t easy in this godless zeitgeist.
I’ll just let you know that the way “back” is ready for you because you left the faith in the sincerity of your personal convictions.
“If we are faithless, He remains faithful for He cannot deny Himself”.
When you see a major signal, a witness from God, don’t let ‘guilt of apostasy’ keep you from rushing back in.
Remember the “prodigal son” story.
Jesus is Lord. God bless you. ✝️💙🙂
Wonder why many people still believe everything in this book. I don't think it's because of intellect problem, more like conformity or just laziness.
Its brainwashing from birth my friend. If you've been subjected to this garbage from birth, of course you'd going to believe it.
I think its child abuse actually.
Threatening children with a fiery torture death if they don't comply.
Sad....
Allah words: Earth spread like carpet held in place by Mountains like Stacks hold camps. Sun moves from the underneath of Allah chair and ends up in mud during night. Alla would hit you sinner, on Earth by throwing Twinkling STAR like pebble(Perhaps Alla did not know STARs are little in reality). Not to mention. Earth is center of solar system and floats still.
The Quran isn't any different
@Rishi Bhàttacharya a phobia is an irrational fear. My fear of Islam isn't irrational therefore not a phobia.. just a hatred
Hypocritical no?
The Hebrew word for day "yom" always means day. Please refer to any Hebrew dictionary.
Yes, a 24 hours day.
yom in Arabic ALSO means day!
Wrong
@@oweltingzon4470 how is it wrong pleas do tell
@@Ganbare_Kenji yom in hebrew is actually Yohm...it can mean any length of time, a very long time peroid and not a 24 Hour day.
I when I read this title, I think about other titles that would be just as funny. "40 Scientific Inaccuracies from Harry Potter."
Aaaahhhhhh ive been waiting on something like this
Waiting? God and Bible hating videos are everywhere on the internet.
Thoroughly enjoyed that Lloyd, it must have been a lot of work. You looked like you had a bit of fun doing too.
him trying to prove that that Bible is scientifically incorrect on many of his scientific theories that are backed doesn’t not make the theory a fact until proven, and using different time periods in the Bible from what God was tell a human to write, the human writing that information in a way that humans could understand in that time on top the Bible being translated into different languages when the Bible it self said that God made people speak in different tongues because he fears what we could do, that has us fighting each other over the Word of God and has us misunderstanding the literal from spiritual and teachings and trying to science theories and facts into the mix without understanding or seeing any of it for our self
@@joshuaortega546 I watched Lloyd’s video, and I agree with him. You are entitled to your opinion, I do not have to agree with you. I found it very difficult to understand what you are trying to say as you have used very little punctuation, just 2 or 3 commas. I have not seen any evidence for any gods at all.
Jehovah Witness is like you only who misinterpreted Bible remember this is very important
When I say 'ignorant" in that context, I mean the adamantly superstitious.
okay so for the second one, if you look at what he’s saying is, not one of them is not under God’s control. Not one is missing means there isn’t one not there that is supposed to be. In context he showing that everything is under control by God. He’s not talking about how stars work, this is what happens when you take away context.
First of all, “gravity” as we know wasn’t discovered during the time of the writing of Job. Therein the description given of hanging on nothing would be accurate for the time period.
These are human beings trying to explain their natural world or having no explanation of it. No god inspired them.
People experienced earthquakes. Of course the earth is and was not firmly fixed. The bible writers never experienced an earthquake before writing something so untrue?
Yes, the real question is whether the Hebrew language has words to describe the science the writer was expected to express. God can only deal with people according to the knowledge at that time. Try explaining a day in a human's life on Mars today, even if you were told what the devices will be used on Mars, you'd get it wrong. That doesn't mean those devices will never exist, or humans won't do those things on Mars, and most importantly, that what you were told is wrong. The disconnect between what we read and what was spoken, is how well the writer understood God's message.
@@petergostelow This goes back to the whole omnipotent, omniscient god-thing. Any such being would be able to describe ANY event with the limited vocabulary, if true. Any notion that these things could not be described accurately using whatever vernacular available is simply an indication that human beings were involved and not a god. In fact, as I thought of this, I could contrive an explanation using common words to describe what gravity would more accurately be or any other scientific concept would be. Just thinking about the words, the bending of space and time, forces, etc. All words that can be used in Hebrew. Again using the argument that people 'in those days' would not have been able to understand, for a god, is non-sensical.
@@timisa58
I never said the Earth couldn't be described accurately. I said the language may not have the words used in science. Lets be clear, scientists are trying to figure out how God made the Universe, while God is free to describe His work any way He likes. The issue here, is scientists don't know how the Universe works, they can't agree on gravity anymore, nor whether the speed of light is constant, so it is a bad standard to use to fact check the Bible.
I also was told the thermosphere was where the floodgates of the heavens came from... because it is hot it can hold more water...🤪
I think the international space stations orbit is in the middle of the thermosphere...
I don’t think water can fall that far.. it would dissipate in the vacuum of space..
I have a headache from thinking too much..🥴
And he rested on the seventh day I've always wondered why an omnipotent being would need to rest at all ever
The rest wasn't for him,....it was for us.
@@mslice0760 No, He ceased with His creating. It was done, or as is said "good".
@@Mr.snamor No,....It wasn't done, it was interrupted for our sake,.....the challenge at the garden of Eden,....was that man could rule himself. ....God basically said I give you a day to prove it.
@@Mr.snamor you are the only person in this comment with the correct answer
@@ahmadibrahimdiallo You and Jazzy ( and so many others) are so deluded and besotted with this bible nonesense. Of course, the deluded know not of their delsion.
Near Death Experience stories are all over the place. Now taking a step back and thinking about what the bible says about death is very contradictory to these stories. Is this the same parallel as to what happen at Garden of Eden where God did not want to reveal everything to Adam and Eve about the tree. God only said to them; if you eat this fruit you will die, and it so happens that they did not die the type of death we come to know as death.
Are we being told the same here about death? when the breath leaves our body and goes back to God, what does God do with the breath? the breath is not just an empty air that goes back to him. Does he put all the air in a lock box? I think we are not being told the whole story.
There is no proof of evolution . Monkeys are still here and so are humans 😢😂
It must be so much work marking out these time stamps and Bible passages, I don’t even know how to commend you for your great work! Thank you bro! I always say once you leave JW, it’s easier for you to become an atheist than a churchgoer (I hope this word doesn’t offend people that goes to church as my terminologies are still kinda JW inspired) I was a JW all my life till my mom died when I was 14, at 14 I was already an orphan, me and my bro was being raised by a single mom who was entirely our world and when she died, all hope died, JW wanted me to drop out of school and just become a full time preacher, I was already a baptized regular pioneer, we were poor and me and my brother were even homeless at a point after mom died, I started going to work as a laborer where you get paid daily, and I started to miss meetings because I had to put food on our stomach and this was back in Africa where you don’t get help from government or even relatives. Long story short, JW was mad at me and even as an orphan with no one, they took everything away from me, I was already a lonely orphan and here they were taking everyone I knew from me (only ex JW Will understand this, I had no friend outside of JW, we didn’t even play with the kids in our neighborhood because they weren’t JW, we knew no one outside of the organization) The fact that JW would weaponize the few friends they let you have against you at your lowest point is pure evil. The case was so bad that it made some youth leave the organization because they just wouldn’t cut me off as they understood my struggle. Young guys left the congregation to stand by me. It’s just a lot of stories that I just tried to summarize as much as I can! JW would take everything away from your whether you’re a kid who just became an orphan or not because they don’t care about you, they only care about the hours you report and the people you converted or brought into “The Truth”. 2016 was the year I decided to be the master of my life and stop being a slave to “Jehovah’s organization” and have a say in the direction I want my life to go. I’ve been free since then, I officially left at age 16 and today, I’ve made it now, I have a good life and I’m now in a position to help others as I’m very stable in every aspect now and moved here recently and I’m back to school. I’m grateful to see videos like this because I’m happy to see people escape JW successfully without them pushing you into suicidal thoughts or making you hurt yourself when they take everything away from you!
And JW are the only people that’ll literally scold you and tell you how much of a big unforgivable sin you’re committing when they know you’ve attempted suicide instead of talking to you and finding the reason that pushed you into such decisions. I’m not saying I encourage suicide, I’m just saying it’s wrong to scold such person without finding out what pushed them to such decisions in the first place.
As an ex cult member like yourself, I agree you're not evil and you deserve love 💜
And I would say it was a collection of myths and legends made by humans WITHOUT good intentions
@@tothejudgemental8299 yes, but the bible, this particular book, was shredded by the council of Nicea. Almost no texts from before it survived. We KNOW they changed it heavily. The council made the changes they made specifically to gain better control over the people and to give themselves a higher standing/ position of power.
Therefore, the bible is a collection of myths and legends made by humans who did not have good intentions. The stories they pulled from were probably mostly made by humans with good intentions, but they were coped into the bible and altered by men with bad intentions.
@@ZackBurnsOG we actually don't know that.... there is actually no research (buy ANY religious scholar) that a small number of a few bishops in Nicea "collected" or created anything (most Christian bishops did not even attend). That is simply not true. The First Council of Nicaea was called to debate and decide the divinity of Jesus (meaning was he just the "Son of God" or also the divine embodiment of God on earth). What we call the "Bible" is different depending on the denomination: the traditional Catholic Bible is different from the Ethiopian Orthodox Church. People just keep repeating this internet lie.
@@bigkendallas yeah. there is. it was heavily documented.
@@ZackBurnsOG no. its not heavily documented.
"made by humans WITHOUT good intentions"
I presume your intentions are good and pure.
I’ve been trying to tell many of my fellow Christians to be weary about getting science from the Bible. There is no reason to think ancient people should be writing about science or have a modern scientific view of the world. They had a ancient near eastern view of the world.
Jesus was God and knew everything as he made the universe! stop it what a Christian you are🤨😟
@Gek ⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ but God didn’t write the Bible. That is a Muslim view. The Christian view is that the Holy Spirit inspired the scriptures but used human beings who articulated genuine thoughts and feelings and their own perspective in their own worldview.
@Atheist Deprogramming Who created this god guy?
@Atheist Deprogramming Prove it.
@Atheist Deprogramming You're absolutely delusional. Brainwashed beyond repair.
For your number 8 that is why the Catholic Church excommunicated Galileo - because he said it was the earth that went around the sun.
The Monarchy excommunicated Galileo through the church. In those days, the Church was controlled by Government. Context is key, just like for this video.
@@spartanastas actually, the government was controlled by the church. important distinction.
@@Skyfoogle No, The Government used the Church to do as it wished. The Catholic Church complied. But there was another Church and that was the Orthodox Church that did nothing of the sort. SO which Church are you talking about, first of all... and then you can read about Henry the VIII and how the England created their own Church because the Church would not comply with his wishes. Read some history books.
Let us keep in mind that, wrong or right, Christian parents teach their children what they, believe to be the factual truth. Not a disgraceful, maleficent planning to ruin the lives of their own children.
absolutely but children will grow out of the nonsense their parent taught them, unless they are caught out civilization, they will grasp reality and get off the indoctrination