Agreed, I have the 870E Aorus Elite, this was helpful. Unfortunately, the memory tune locked my system up at POST. I had to flash the CMOS and try again. I have Corsair 6400 CL36 memory that came with the board from Newegg. The memory tune was the problem, I think. I'm not liking this memory but not sure if it's worth changing it. I'll have to do some research on how to best set it up to work with this CPU. My GPU is the 4080 Super not the 4090, we'll see how this tune works soon.
Nice turorial ! However -40 allcore CO is most likely not stable at all in heavy loads (not gaming). My 9800x3d is only stable at -15 in heavy benchmarks (Prime95 LFFT / Y-Cruncher / OCCT etc) . In games I can do -35 ,but i dont risk the potentional BSOD and corrupted windows/ save files ,so i stick with -15. Tip : you SOC is waaay too high for only 6000 RAM /2000FCLK , you can lower it to 1,15 - 1,2Vfor sure .
that SOC setting only sets high limit. in practice, it only hits around 1.2. I dont usually do synthetic benchmarks as I use these rigs for gaming/editing so they will never see that level of stress its not useful for me personally but thats good to know. Others I spoke to have been running -40 with no issue as well
@@palmz4060 I understand your point of view and i respect it. To me stabe means stable in every scenario . Some games are just as demanding as a synthetic benchmark, for example shader compilation in Stalker2 or The Last of Us . I want my system rock stable all the time and not worry about BSOD. I stresstest my new rigs in the first few days /week ,setting stable OC; and after that forget it and keep playing.
Noice! I have mine set at 5.4Ghz using PBO maximums, but definitely feel like there's more the CPU can give. I have a feeling that this will be a Legendary CPU.
You are the first TH-cam channel I have seen that has broken this down in detail. I tend to spend days fine tuning new builds mainly focusing on getting as steady as possible frame time graph, trying to keep my 1pct and .1pct lows as consistent as possible. It is hard to explain how important this is, and how much tuning actually effects 1440p and 4k, everyone want to argue online about how unimportant high res gaming is in CPU benchmarks. But there is a huge performance difference at high res with up scaling that no one take into account. some Processor do up scaling way better than others, and tuning makes a big difference. I think it has taken Stalker 2 to really make people see how important CPU performance is with up scaling.
thanks for recognizing some of the hard work i put into my content, I really appreciate it. It seems like the large majority of people just parrot what they see in 1 or 2 videos they skim for a few minutes and then act like an expert lol. I'm used to it now, but I hope my content will continue to be useful for those who care to take a deeper look
One more thing I would like to add that not many people are actually aware of is turning HPET (High precision event timer) off. While by itself it's only a like 1-2% FPS boost, it makes the game feel quite a bit smoother, even though the actual FPS number is the same, and also seemingly more responsive. It worked wonders for when I wanted to run streets on my old 7700K and actually made it playable, and now on my 7800X3D it still is a noticeable difference.
I’m contemplating on upgrading from my i7-12700f to a i7-14700k or i7-14700kf on my b660m plus ASUS motherboard so I can’t run ddr5 on it, but they updated the bios on the motherboard so I’m good to to upgrade just not sure which one would be better for gaming. Or for an extra $100 I could just get the i9-14900k or i9-14900kf I’m looking for which one would be better for gaming I play R6,red dead, apex, gta mainly r6 on all of these games I play medium or low presets/ quality setting. It’s going to be for 1440p/4k
So I am wondering, and hope you can clarify this, If I understand correctly the x3d turbo mode turns off smt mode automatically when enabled. My only concern is that it may cause microstutters in titles that utilize mutithreading. Since the 9800x3d has a single ccd the mode is not that useful so would it be more ideal to turn x3d turbo off and keep smt on? (I am also aware it may do something with memory as well but not certain) Let me know your thoughts/experiences, thank you.
yeah manually shutting off SMT with X3D turbo mode is kind of redundant because turbo mode already does it, but I just do it anyways. It will be dependent on the specific titles. Most games will benefit from SMT disabled. There are some titles where it may not show benefit, but you'll have to see that on a game to game basis. All the titles I play benefit from maxing out each core to full capacity instead of spreading it across multiple cores.
@@pyurologie but dont you technically end up with 8 threads instead of 16, reducing the CPU's capability by half? Many many games use more than 8 threads these days.
Hello bro :) Can you make a video with the best motheboards you can buy for 9800x3d? Budget, Mid range and High Range. Can I make the same BIOS specs with an MSI B650 Tomahawk ? Thank you :)
this is my video comparing mobos for 7800X3D, same applies for 9800X3D really A620 vs B650 vs x670E comparison: th-cam.com/video/p530Zqt7Itc/w-d-xo.html yes, i use same settings on entry level B650 DS3H no issues
yes, you should have no issues with an X870 using the same settings. Even my B650 hits the same values. X3D don't care much what motherboard is being used
Do you know if the Scalar has any negative impact on CPU longevity? I have mine set to 10X, and it seems stable. Does a higher scalar increase power draw, or provide a more consistent voltage to the CPU? I can't really find good information on this. Thanks!
it basically allows the CPU to push harder in terms of voltage, which technically increases heat. Since the 9800X3D runs so cool anyways, I'm personally not very worried about it decreasing overall life of the CPU. It's just allowing it to reach whatever voltage it needs to stay boosted longer. On top of that, boost clocks are capped by PBO, so it's not like it's pushing the CPU indefinitely. In cases where the temp would go to an unhealthy level, then I'd be worried about longevity. But, even on 10X scalar for me, my chip stays extremely cool in the 50s. Hope that explanation helps. If you're extremely cautious, then remove the scalar setting, but overall I'm not worried one bit about longevity using it after seeing the temps and voltages on these settings.
@@pyurologie Great, thanks! I'll keep an eye on it, and try some other lower settings to see if it changes voltages much. I get about 83C when running Cinebench R24 with 150w power draw. In gaming, it only pulls about 75W and stays around 55-60C with a 360mm AIO.
I'm running 10X with a Scythe Fuma 3 air cooler with 3 fans, max temps 87* in Cinebench R23 with 165W draw. Gaming temps are in the low to mid 60's at around the same power draw (75W). Looks like there's a consistent 5* differential between our cooling methods.
@@dkindig Cinebench R23 this my CPU harder than R24 does. In R24 I get about 83C, but in R24 I get 87C, with a 7X scalar currently. My wattage is lower than yours though, at about 155w in R23. I tried a manual overclock to 5.4Ghz @ 1.240v and temps and power draw were about the same, but it crashed in R23. Interestingly, I can run PBO + 200 offset to reach 5.4Ghz and it passes R23. Maybe I just need more voltage in the manual overclock, but I was already pushing high 87C as it was and didn't feel like trying higher core voltage. Anyways, I'll be happy where it is for now. It's still a huge boost in performance from my old 10900K. :)
I went with Corsair Dominator Titanium RGB DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) 6000mhz. I selected AMD profile 1. When the memory training was done the hertz was set at 6200mhz, 1.4volts. I was confused how 6000mhz can go past what it's set at.
Do you have a 7800X3D tuning video? I have one on the way and it'll be paired with an ASUS PRIME B650M-A mobo and id like to optimize it for Tarkov specifically.
great vid, im building a custom loop and im going to direct die the 9800x3d, just waiting for the cpu to be delivered lol do you think i'll be able to do +300mhz or maybe even 400 ? thx
I've seen others push the clocks further than i am manually, I'm just staying within PBO limits. I think with enough heat management, you can push the clocks. I havent tried it yet personally though
for tarkov and a lot of games, they're optimized for single core performance. this setting ensures each core is at full capacity instead of spreading it across cores
Why in some games like Thronz and liberty or STALKER but in loading shaders for stalker my cpu is used 100% ? This used is just for stalker when he was loading shaders in loading screen but in Throns and Liberty in a main city sometimes my processor goes up to 80/90% used sometimes not , is 9800x3d and all cores are 5225 mhz ? Is it oke or ? I played 1920x1080
you should be able to run the same secondaries and leave your CAS rating as is lmk if you have questions. you can hit me up on discord as well pyurologie discord: discord.gg/c7SvvDAuMZ
I have a full all new pc build with 9800x3d with everything identical to what you used in this video except the gpu. I either want to find a good black friday deal or possibly buy a used gpu. What do you recommend? I ONLY play tarkov and dont really want to spend a lot on the graphics card.
congrats! well good thing about tarkov is that cpu is the star of the show. what resolution are you planning to play? then i can give u my recommendations
got an msi tomahwak x670e refurbished for $185 US put it in yesterday and everything has appeared to be good. one thing i wanna know is i had the option to update the bios to a beta version specificaly for the 9800x3d. i dont know much about pc stuff when it comes to things like that so i just went with the update previous to that one that supports 9000 ryzen chips. if i were to go ahead and undervolt it with these settings would you reccomend I update to the beta version of the 9800x3d bios update?
How is the performance with streaming. I currently gonna try your setting. Performance on games like Hunt Showdown, my performance tanks when trying to stream. Compared to a 13900k ecores off. Locked at 5.6 all core. 7200 xmp. Was thinking on sending this 9800X3d back. /sadface Hopefully this video will help change my mind.
Let me know what happens. I have the 9800x3d here. It was going to retire my 13900k. So far I can’t see why i would. Doesn’t seem to be worth the $1000 (cpu/mb)
streaming performance is great. it really depends on your stream settings. Here's a recent single PC stream playing in 4K with amazing performance th-cam.com/users/livesSOo-YZ1cQU?feature=shared
most likely yes, I've spoken to a few 9800X3D owners already and all seem to be able to run fine on these settings. If you're having issues, you can lower the CO value -5 at a time
@ also disabling SMT should not affect other games performance right? I did hear that disabling it increases performance in games little bit but i’m not aware of current situation
Hi Pyur, do you use FMF2 in Tarkov or nah? Getting my 9800X3D in pair with 6800XT and thinking if i need to use it in 1080p. Thanks for video! (360hz monitor)
@@themarketgardener ye he said before that from version 2 it is not very noticeable, but i forgot that he is on 4090 now and there is no FMF2, so to rephrase it, would he use it if he had amd card
@avpro3904 yes FMF2 is amazing, the added input latency even with FMF1 was a non factor if starting with 80-100 fps. with FMF2, it wasn't even noticeable. FMF2 is so good. you wont need it with 6800xt for 1080 or even 1440, but you can boost to insane frames with it on if you like th-cam.com/video/mBSij0g8tjY/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
When you say otherwise everything runs smooth, what happens when things aren't running smoothly? Like are you witnessing frame drops? Screen tearing? Etc
yeah gonna wait till my bios update gets out of beta before trying anything like this (msi x670E gaming plus wifi, was very cheap where i live while still having all the pcie-5 goodies and ports/slots plus for upgrade path down the road)
Can't wait to come back to this video to learn how to optimally underclock it whenever I get my antec flux pro in canada(if its ever in stock) and my 9800x3d. IT STILL HASNT SHIPPED. And our parcel service is on strike which sucks. Probably will get it around December I hope before next wipe. I am curious though, what motherboard would you recommend, I was thinking the b650e taichi, the x870 steel legend, or the x870 taichi even(since I feel like this board will be good whenever the 11800x3d comes out. Only reason I'm thinking about getting it). I know the nova is really good too but, its sold out everywhere in Canada and its like 100$ less than the taichi so I might aswell go top end top end if I am going top end. Do you think the x870 steel legend would hold up in 2 to 3 years whenever the next x3d chip drops? Since it will be on am5 too. Just curious about your recommendations or advice.
Will this preset work fine for running Star Citizen with a rtx4070 TI Super, 64gb ddr5 c40, crucial t705 2tb, corsair h150 cooling, gigabyte x870 aurus elite mtb with the latest bios
@@DeadMar0z Late reply, actually i dont have it in my hands, was just checking the kits for my next upgrade. Looks like all the CL30-32 are the good ones i suppose.
both are great. need 8000 to not get latency penalty at 1:2, my 7200CL34 hits 8000 but it depends on your silicon and whether you want to tune. 6000CL28 will be more "plug and play" to an extent
@@pyurologie I'm getting higher scores with 7200 mhz then 6000mhz in 3dmark, what are the settings for 7200->8000 , the voltage and latency,can you please help me out!!!
I feel a bit lost with my FPS on Streets offline (with bots) though. Got a 4090 + 9800X3D and 32GB CL30 Ram (1440P) and I'm experiencing under 100 FPS and sometimes 100+ but not even close to 150+ Or is that more likely to see when I'm going into buildings? Anyone has a similar outcome?
If I have a Teamgroup EXPERT DDR5 48GB 6400MHz CL32 [32-39-39-84]1.35v kit how would the settings differ? do i increase the system memory multiplier to 64?
@@pyurologie So i got this ram CMH32GX5M2B6000C30W if i just leave it on XMP and increase the Vcore SOC to like 1.25 is that enhough for Ifinity clock 2200?
@@MexicanBatman As vsoc goes up, you can raise memclk speed better. To help raise fclk, LOWER vsoc. Biggest memory gains are with lower cas and higher fclk. I was running 2133/6400 with vsoc at 1.25, set ram back to expo at 6000, and had to reduce vsoc down to 1.15 for 2200 fclk to stabilize.
yes it should be fine. if you're worried about longevity at all, then maybe skip the scalar setting step. otherwise, everything else is not pushed very much
Omg -60??? Mine freezes 5 minutes into cinebench multi-core at -25. I keep at -15 for guaranteed stability. No difference in 4K gaming performance on these margins for me anyway. Either way, great video walkthrough.
We talked in chat the other day and was talking about an intermittent GPU whilst waiting for 5090. I went with a 4080 Super instead of a used 3080, I have a return window of 90 days so i will return it upon release. 9800X3D 64Gb Flare X5 6000MT CL30 (Will probably be M-die) 4tb 990 Pro 4080 Super NH-D15 G2 w/ Kryosheet ASUS B650E-I Building this on a Streacom BC1 whilst waiting for a booked case. Samsung G80SD & Gigabyte G28U Arm Edition as my secondary So your timings, are they buildzoid? I’m getting my components on Monday so I will do this instantly and check stability. Psyched AF.
Double-check reviews on the 990 Pro's. I've seen all kinds of reports of sub-standard transfer rates and only getting full xfer rate under certain conditions.
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Not sure how I missed this earlier! Cant wait to these settings out tomorrow dude. Youre the best 🎉
You're welcome! Enjoy!
I got so lucky you went with Aorus as well! Amazing guide and easy to follow instructions! Thank you again brother!
Thanks, I'm glad it was helpful!
Agreed, I have the 870E Aorus Elite, this was helpful. Unfortunately, the memory tune locked my system up at POST. I had to flash the CMOS and try again. I have Corsair 6400 CL36 memory that came with the board from Newegg. The memory tune was the problem, I think. I'm not liking this memory but not sure if it's worth changing it. I'll have to do some research on how to best set it up to work with this CPU. My GPU is the 4080 Super not the 4090, we'll see how this tune works soon.
Damn dude, these are some serious gains😮
yeah i actually wasnt expecting that much of a boost.. its got a good amount of headroom
Nice turorial ! However -40 allcore CO is most likely not stable at all in heavy loads (not gaming). My 9800x3d is only stable at -15 in heavy benchmarks (Prime95 LFFT / Y-Cruncher / OCCT etc) . In games I can do -35 ,but i dont risk the potentional BSOD and corrupted windows/ save files ,so i stick with -15.
Tip : you SOC is waaay too high for only 6000 RAM /2000FCLK , you can lower it to 1,15 - 1,2Vfor sure .
that SOC setting only sets high limit. in practice, it only hits around 1.2. I dont usually do synthetic benchmarks as I use these rigs for gaming/editing so they will never see that level of stress its not useful for me personally but thats good to know. Others I spoke to have been running -40 with no issue as well
I run -40 and zero issues, only for gaming. Don’t even bother with synthetic benchmarks.
@@palmz4060 I understand your point of view and i respect it.
To me stabe means stable in every scenario . Some games are just as demanding as a synthetic benchmark, for example shader compilation in Stalker2 or The Last of Us . I want my system rock stable all the time and not worry about BSOD. I stresstest my new rigs in the first few days /week ,setting stable OC; and after that forget it and keep playing.
@@csabauri351that’s fair enough and makes sense
@@pyurologie Was also running -40 on mine but got crazy freeze frames in Elden Ring. -35 seems stable for me.
This is exactly what I need. Just built a new PC with the 9800x3d and a 4090. Now I need to OC it.
congrats, beast build! hope it's helpful!
Noice! I have mine set at 5.4Ghz using PBO maximums, but definitely feel like there's more the CPU can give. I have a feeling that this will be a Legendary CPU.
You are the first TH-cam channel I have seen that has broken this down in detail. I tend to spend days fine tuning new builds mainly focusing on getting as steady as possible frame time graph, trying to keep my 1pct and .1pct lows as consistent as possible. It is hard to explain how important this is, and how much tuning actually effects 1440p and 4k, everyone want to argue online about how unimportant high res gaming is in CPU benchmarks. But there is a huge performance difference at high res with up scaling that no one take into account. some Processor do up scaling way better than others, and tuning makes a big difference. I think it has taken Stalker 2 to really make people see how important CPU performance is with up scaling.
thanks for recognizing some of the hard work i put into my content, I really appreciate it. It seems like the large majority of people just parrot what they see in 1 or 2 videos they skim for a few minutes and then act like an expert lol. I'm used to it now, but I hope my content will continue to be useful for those who care to take a deeper look
One more thing I would like to add that not many people are actually aware of is turning HPET (High precision event timer) off. While by itself it's only a like 1-2% FPS boost, it makes the game feel quite a bit smoother, even though the actual FPS number is the same, and also seemingly more responsive. It worked wonders for when I wanted to run streets on my old 7700K and actually made it playable, and now on my 7800X3D it still is a noticeable difference.
for some funky reason the gigabyte site has a later version of amd chipset than the one on official site lol
oh really? lol hmm im still using the amd one but ill check it out
holly molly this chip is insane! thanks for the content ! unique and quality!
thanks so much, i appreciate the support!
I’m contemplating on upgrading from my i7-12700f to a i7-14700k or i7-14700kf on my b660m plus ASUS motherboard so I can’t run ddr5 on it, but they updated the bios on the motherboard so I’m good to to upgrade just not sure which one would be better for gaming. Or for an extra $100 I could just get the i9-14900k or i9-14900kf I’m looking for which one would be better for gaming I play R6,red dead, apex, gta mainly r6 on all of these games I play medium or low presets/ quality setting. It’s going to be for 1440p/4k
would definitely like to see this done for rust
So I am wondering, and hope you can clarify this, If I understand correctly the x3d turbo mode turns off smt mode automatically when enabled. My only concern is that it may cause microstutters in titles that utilize mutithreading. Since the 9800x3d has a single ccd the mode is not that useful so would it be more ideal to turn x3d turbo off and keep smt on? (I am also aware it may do something with memory as well but not certain) Let me know your thoughts/experiences, thank you.
Need to know too
yeah manually shutting off SMT with X3D turbo mode is kind of redundant because turbo mode already does it, but I just do it anyways.
It will be dependent on the specific titles. Most games will benefit from SMT disabled. There are some titles where it may not show benefit, but you'll have to see that on a game to game basis. All the titles I play benefit from maxing out each core to full capacity instead of spreading it across multiple cores.
@@pyurologie but dont you technically end up with 8 threads instead of 16, reducing the CPU's capability by half? Many many games use more than 8 threads these days.
I like to use process lasso for defining priority/affinity/smt on a game-by-game basis. Has been very convenient, set and forget.
Hello bro :) Can you make a video with the best motheboards you can buy for 9800x3d? Budget, Mid range and High Range.
Can I make the same BIOS specs with an MSI B650 Tomahawk ? Thank you :)
this is my video comparing mobos for 7800X3D, same applies for 9800X3D really
A620 vs B650 vs x670E comparison: th-cam.com/video/p530Zqt7Itc/w-d-xo.html
yes, i use same settings on entry level B650 DS3H no issues
How safe are the voltages that you showed?
Building a new PC, what are your thoughts on 870 Aorus master? Would I be able to do similar tunings as you did with the 670E extreme?
yes, you should have no issues with an X870 using the same settings. Even my B650 hits the same values. X3D don't care much what motherboard is being used
Do you know if the Scalar has any negative impact on CPU longevity? I have mine set to 10X, and it seems stable. Does a higher scalar increase power draw, or provide a more consistent voltage to the CPU? I can't really find good information on this. Thanks!
it basically allows the CPU to push harder in terms of voltage, which technically increases heat. Since the 9800X3D runs so cool anyways, I'm personally not very worried about it decreasing overall life of the CPU. It's just allowing it to reach whatever voltage it needs to stay boosted longer. On top of that, boost clocks are capped by PBO, so it's not like it's pushing the CPU indefinitely.
In cases where the temp would go to an unhealthy level, then I'd be worried about longevity. But, even on 10X scalar for me, my chip stays extremely cool in the 50s. Hope that explanation helps. If you're extremely cautious, then remove the scalar setting, but overall I'm not worried one bit about longevity using it after seeing the temps and voltages on these settings.
@@pyurologie Great, thanks! I'll keep an eye on it, and try some other lower settings to see if it changes voltages much. I get about 83C when running Cinebench R24 with 150w power draw. In gaming, it only pulls about 75W and stays around 55-60C with a 360mm AIO.
I'm running 10X with a Scythe Fuma 3 air cooler with 3 fans, max temps 87* in Cinebench R23 with 165W draw. Gaming temps are in the low to mid 60's at around the same power draw (75W). Looks like there's a consistent 5* differential between our cooling methods.
@@dkindig Cinebench R23 this my CPU harder than R24 does. In R24 I get about 83C, but in R24 I get 87C, with a 7X scalar currently. My wattage is lower than yours though, at about 155w in R23. I tried a manual overclock to 5.4Ghz @ 1.240v and temps and power draw were about the same, but it crashed in R23. Interestingly, I can run PBO + 200 offset to reach 5.4Ghz and it passes R23. Maybe I just need more voltage in the manual overclock, but I was already pushing high 87C as it was and didn't feel like trying higher core voltage. Anyways, I'll be happy where it is for now. It's still a huge boost in performance from my old 10900K. :)
I went with Corsair Dominator Titanium RGB DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) 6000mhz. I selected AMD profile 1. When the memory training was done the hertz was set at 6200mhz, 1.4volts. I was confused how 6000mhz can go past what it's set at.
Do you have a 7800X3D tuning video? I have one on the way and it'll be paired with an ASUS PRIME B650M-A mobo and id like to optimize it for Tarkov specifically.
here's an undervolt video for Ryzen 7000, same settings I use for my 7800X3D: th-cam.com/video/-D2gPn95jS8/w-d-xo.html
Have you had any blue screens with your build? I might just copy your setup tbh
nope been rock solid in all games i play, even running -50 now
YOOOO sick video bro thanks for this!
thank you! np!
I love ur guide!! Just a question are you using win 10 or 11? Thx!
great vid, im building a custom loop and im going to direct die the 9800x3d, just waiting for the cpu to be delivered lol
do you think i'll be able to do +300mhz or maybe even 400 ?
thx
I've seen others push the clocks further than i am manually, I'm just staying within PBO limits. I think with enough heat management, you can push the clocks. I havent tried it yet personally though
this is crazy how much of a difference OC made. how were the temp changes or did you not track that?
temps were basically exactly the same.. in 50s in games
most of it would be the tighter memory timings
would this be as beneficial for games outside of tarkov too? or just a bit?
yes, this tune in general helps me in all titles I play
Hello, just curious but why should you disable SMT? Thanks
for tarkov and a lot of games, they're optimized for single core performance. this setting ensures each core is at full capacity instead of spreading it across cores
is ok if i use the cpu settings from this video and for ram to use xmp ?
yeah absolutely
Why in some games like Thronz and liberty or STALKER but in loading shaders for stalker my cpu is used 100% ? This used is just for stalker when he was loading shaders in loading screen but in Throns and Liberty in a main city sometimes my processor goes up to 80/90% used sometimes not , is 9800x3d and all cores are 5225 mhz ? Is it oke or ? I played 1920x1080
Great video man.
Glad you enjoyed it!
is it the same with Asus B650 PLUS Tuf Gaming motherboard?
yeah, i use the same settings on my B650 DS3H with no issues.
Amazing video sir thanks
You're welcome, glad you liked it!
will all these settings work for my ryzen 7800x3d. i have that same ram too.
settings are different for 7800X3D, here's an undervolt guide for 7800X3D: th-cam.com/video/-D2gPn95jS8/w-d-xo.html
I'm not seeing a pbo limits setting on my Asus tuf B650-e board. Running the latest bios. Is this an issue?
Will those RAM settings work for my Corsair Vengeance 32Gb (6k @ CL28)? If not, is there somewhere I can look to get the correct settings?
yeah i would like to know aswell
you should be able to run the same secondaries and leave your CAS rating as is lmk if you have questions.
you can hit me up on discord as well
pyurologie discord: discord.gg/c7SvvDAuMZ
I have a full all new pc build with 9800x3d with everything identical to what you used in this video except the gpu. I either want to find a good black friday deal or possibly buy a used gpu. What do you recommend? I ONLY play tarkov and dont really want to spend a lot on the graphics card.
congrats! well good thing about tarkov is that cpu is the star of the show. what resolution are you planning to play? then i can give u my recommendations
@@pyurologie 1440p I am currently watching your video on the subject from almost a year ago lol.
got an msi tomahwak x670e refurbished for $185 US put it in yesterday and everything has appeared to be good. one thing i wanna know is i had the option to update the bios to a beta version specificaly for the 9800x3d. i dont know much about pc stuff when it comes to things like that so i just went with the update previous to that one that supports 9000 ryzen chips. if i were to go ahead and undervolt it with these settings would you reccomend I update to the beta version of the 9800x3d bios update?
thats a steal! nice find.. yeah unless you want a specific feature in the BIOS id just go with the latest official release
How is the performance with streaming. I currently gonna try your setting. Performance on games like Hunt Showdown, my performance tanks when trying to stream. Compared to a 13900k ecores off. Locked at 5.6 all core. 7200 xmp. Was thinking on sending this 9800X3d back. /sadface Hopefully this video will help change my mind.
Let me know what happens. I have the 9800x3d here. It was going to retire my 13900k. So far I can’t see why i would. Doesn’t seem to be worth the $1000 (cpu/mb)
streaming performance is great. it really depends on your stream settings. Here's a recent single PC stream playing in 4K with amazing performance th-cam.com/users/livesSOo-YZ1cQU?feature=shared
If I’m freezing do I just keep lowering the pbo boost by 25 til it stops?
freezing in game or during post?
So i can use those same settings without a problem? There is no silicon lottery involved?
most likely yes, I've spoken to a few 9800X3D owners already and all seem to be able to run fine on these settings. If you're having issues, you can lower the CO value -5 at a time
@ also disabling SMT should not affect other games performance right? I did hear that disabling it increases performance in games little bit but i’m not aware of current situation
You have xmp disabled for tarkov?
I don't use XMP value, I set my own memory timings.
Hi Pyur, do you use FMF2 in Tarkov or nah?
Getting my 9800X3D in pair with 6800XT and thinking if i need to use it in 1080p. Thanks for video! (360hz monitor)
He has videos with FMF2 but it introduces some input lag afaik
@@themarketgardener ye he said before that from version 2 it is not very noticeable, but i forgot that he is on 4090 now and there is no FMF2, so to rephrase it, would he use it if he had amd card
@avpro3904 yes FMF2 is amazing, the added input latency even with FMF1 was a non factor if starting with 80-100 fps. with FMF2, it wasn't even noticeable. FMF2 is so good. you wont need it with 6800xt for 1080 or even 1440, but you can boost to insane frames with it on if you like th-cam.com/video/mBSij0g8tjY/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
@ thanks a lot for answer man!!! Going to try everything now, just installed 9800x3d, going to be huge after 9600k 🤞
My 9800X3D can go max. 25- allcore CO otherwise everything runs smooth, thanks mang
no problem, yeah its dependent on your silicon and use scenarios. thanks for sharing!
When you say otherwise everything runs smooth, what happens when things aren't running smoothly? Like are you witnessing frame drops? Screen tearing? Etc
yeah gonna wait till my bios update gets out of beta before trying anything like this (msi x670E gaming plus wifi, was very cheap where i live while still having all the pcie-5 goodies and ports/slots plus for upgrade path down the road)
Can't wait to come back to this video to learn how to optimally underclock it whenever I get my antec flux pro in canada(if its ever in stock) and my 9800x3d. IT STILL HASNT SHIPPED. And our parcel service is on strike which sucks. Probably will get it around December I hope before next wipe.
I am curious though, what motherboard would you recommend, I was thinking the b650e taichi, the x870 steel legend, or the x870 taichi even(since I feel like this board will be good whenever the 11800x3d comes out. Only reason I'm thinking about getting it). I know the nova is really good too but, its sold out everywhere in Canada and its like 100$ less than the taichi so I might aswell go top end top end if I am going top end. Do you think the x870 steel legend would hold up in 2 to 3 years whenever the next x3d chip drops? Since it will be on am5 too. Just curious about your recommendations or advice.
I currently have a Ryzen 7 5800x …is it pointless to switch to a ryzen 7 5700x3d for tarkov?
Will this preset work fine for running Star Citizen with a rtx4070 TI Super, 64gb ddr5 c40, crucial t705 2tb, corsair h150 cooling, gigabyte x870 aurus elite mtb with the latest bios
if i want my ram to be at 7000mhz instead of 6000 what do i need to change??
Hello, is this Kingston kit KF564C32BWEAK2-64 Hynix a-die? Generally how do you indentify if a kit is hynix a-die? Thanks for the video!
What does the sticker on one of your RAM-Sticks say? We might find that out pretty fast
@@DeadMar0z Late reply, actually i dont have it in my hands, was just checking the kits for my next upgrade. Looks like all the CL30-32 are the good ones i suppose.
Awesome tutorial as always!
thanks dude!!
I have 6000mhz 28cl ram and 7200 mhz 34cl ram , which should I keep
6000 cl28 with 1:1 mode
both are great. need 8000 to not get latency penalty at 1:2, my 7200CL34 hits 8000 but it depends on your silicon and whether you want to tune. 6000CL28 will be more "plug and play" to an extent
@@pyurologie I'm getting higher scores with 7200 mhz then 6000mhz in 3dmark, what are the settings for 7200->8000 , the voltage and latency,can you please help me out!!!
I feel a bit lost with my FPS on Streets offline (with bots) though.
Got a 4090 + 9800X3D and 32GB CL30 Ram (1440P) and I'm experiencing under 100 FPS and sometimes 100+ but not even close to 150+
Or is that more likely to see when I'm going into buildings?
Anyone has a similar outcome?
If I have a Teamgroup EXPERT DDR5 48GB 6400MHz CL32 [32-39-39-84]1.35v kit how would the settings differ? do i increase the system memory multiplier to 64?
Can’t find x3d turbo mode.
X870-P Asus prime
I think it's called turbo game mode for asus boards
@@pyurologie yeah still don't see an option:/
are you on the latest BIOS?
Does smt affect the game that much ?
i haven't done a test specifically testing only SMT yet but it's the ideal setting for gaming technically
i cant get infinity to 2200 just 2100 from 2000 any advise? i only changed the setting
you matched voltages as well? sometimes it can depend on silicon, but it seems like most 9800X3D users I spoke to can hit 2200.. lmk
@@pyurologie So i got this ram CMH32GX5M2B6000C30W if i just leave it on XMP and increase the Vcore SOC to like 1.25 is that enhough for Ifinity clock 2200?
@@MexicanBatman As vsoc goes up, you can raise memclk speed better. To help raise fclk, LOWER vsoc. Biggest memory gains are with lower cas and higher fclk. I was running 2133/6400 with vsoc at 1.25, set ram back to expo at 6000, and had to reduce vsoc down to 1.15 for 2200 fclk to stabilize.
is 100% safe for cpu?
yes it should be fine. if you're worried about longevity at all, then maybe skip the scalar setting step. otherwise, everything else is not pushed very much
Omg -60??? Mine freezes 5 minutes into cinebench multi-core at -25. I keep at -15 for guaranteed stability. No difference in 4K gaming performance on these margins for me anyway. Either way, great video walkthrough.
But how can it be that you play in 4K on the stream and have over 150 - 200 fps in streets?
most likely because I'm using DLSS on stream to offset the performance hit for streaming
@@pyurologie DLSS really makes that large of a difference? thats actually crazy
I need same tutorial for 7800x3d so hard...
here's an undervolt video for Ryzen 7000, same settings I use for my 7800X3D: th-cam.com/video/-D2gPn95jS8/w-d-xo.html
is it normal if my boost clock override aint stable at 200
it can be dependent on your silicon. Maybe try lowering to 150 and test stability
@@pyurologie ty how much scalar do i start with
Great video. I will buy it once I get paid for all my work in earth ❤ with love, J Christ.
thank you!
You should max out your tREF 65535 if u can
Sheeeesh! Another one.
🎉🎉
We talked in chat the other day and was talking about an intermittent GPU whilst waiting for 5090.
I went with a 4080 Super instead of a used 3080, I have a return window of 90 days so i will return it upon release.
9800X3D
64Gb Flare X5 6000MT CL30 (Will probably be M-die)
4tb 990 Pro
4080 Super
NH-D15 G2 w/ Kryosheet
ASUS B650E-I
Building this on a Streacom BC1 whilst waiting for a booked case.
Samsung G80SD & Gigabyte G28U Arm Edition as my secondary
So your timings, are they buildzoid? I’m getting my components on Monday so I will do this instantly and check stability.
Psyched AF.
Double-check reviews on the 990 Pro's. I've seen all kinds of reports of sub-standard transfer rates and only getting full xfer rate under certain conditions.
This was cool…
thank you!
@@pyurologie would u give me a few tips on the volts after I finish deliding my 9800x3D ? thanks
-40? I just sent mine to -20.
yeah, even running -50 now no issues
@@pyurologie Oh wow, I guess ill try it lol
Thanks brother ❤❤❤
Thank you too
sup
sup!
zayumm im early
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