I have to say, the dubbing of the voice over the video just makes it really odd for me. I'd rather you have a mic on your person and do it live. Just my opinion.
Amd did think of putting the stack on the bottom, they just couldn't do that with the layout of the previous chips, they designed this gen with that in mind so they could move it down.
@@TKanal3 No it wasnt, when they decide to add in V-cache it is just too late into development stage that it will be extremely costly and delayed launches if they do that, so they do it during Zen 5 when it was design to be revamp ground up.
4:00 gotta keep in mind that in addition to the 1-2ns latency improvement running 8000MT/S will also give much higher bandwidth , read/write, etc. Personally gonna just bin 3 of them and keep whichever one can do 6400c30 in 1:1 and call it a day.
3:39 Here it fully depends on silicon lottery if you can do 6400 MT/s in DIV1 mode. Mine 7950X could not do that, after it failed and I got later 7700, this one can do 6400 MT/s with ease. Most crucial is how much VSoC you need to get it stable. If you cannot stabilise 6400 MT/s with 1300 mV or less VSoC, your chip will not do 6400 MT/s DIV1 mode, period. While mine 7950X needed 1155 mV SoC for 6000 MT/s, 7700 needed just 1030 mV SoC for same speed. So basically if you can get 6000 MT/s stable at 1100 mV or less, you have chance to run 6400 MT/s stable
@ 8000 MT/s is more prone for electromagnetic interference on motherboards and can be harder to test stability. If stable it is faster than 6400 MT/s DIV1 mode, however you really need good motherboard for that
@DeadlyKiller54 That's a good idea, your 7500f will last until next generation honestly unless you're really trying to get high fps etc. But the 9800x3d will get similar sales that the 7800x3d did eventually, that's when it would be a good idea to grab one.
I have a Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX and I just updated the Bios a week ago and it has made some improvements in memory usage and bottleneck issues with my video card.
I'm onboard the Hype-train now - love the improvements all around, esp. in the improvements on the non-gaming side that the X3D chips of past never quite boosted.
It's cuz the gains for zen 5 X3D are almost entirely from moving the cache layer, to allow for better thermals. So the gains are scaling right off of the higher clocks, cuz better heat dissipation. And clock speed was where older X3D's hit a slowdown, again, due to thermals. But yeah, it removes a lot of indecision for mixed-use buyers. 9800X3D should actually pace with the 9700X in compute tasks.
Have you actually tried to see performance changes with lower and average on higher memory speed then 6000 or 6400Mhz cause certain benchmarks show 15 to 20 fps differences on like 8000Mhz and 38CL/36CL timings.
Yes and the most important thing run the chipset drivers from amd as they have specific drivers for the 3D v cache so the chip works properly idk how this is not in the list but hey
I'm running a 9800x3d on an Asrock X870 Pro RS using the 3.06 BIOS which has AMD AGESA 1.2.0.0a Patch A. It's been running fine and I did look at the BIOS updates for this board, but the one using that AGESA code is only 2 weeks old and I am seeing people talking about having issues with stuck and frozen BIOS after flashing theirs. Kinda makes me not want to risk it since the system runs fine and is stable now, not sure it's worth the risk to be honest.
Bought 2 kits of G.Skill 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL30 Trident Z5 Neo black RGB AMD Expo for my strix x870-f with a 9800x3d. And enabling Expo stalls it.
AMD did think of that in the first place, but it wasnt feasible to change the structure when they are already at Zen 3 development. They have to wait till Zen 5 where the entire CPU architecture was modified from ground up then only they can place the CPU on top of the V cache.
As i don't want/need multiple nvme drives, I'm going to wait for the launch of new B series AMD motherboards which with fewer m.2 slots will be a bit less expensive than the X series boards, and perhaps put some of the extra bit of money saved towards an R9 X3D chip instead when launched next year. Just have to make sure the B series board i pick has a sufficient number of vrm's to cope with the extra cpu cores of the R9 cpu's (at least 14 or 16 vrm's to help keep temps down)
The 6000 MT/s memory controller ratio limit isn't quite right. In fact, my Gigabyte X670E / Aorus Pro X7950X3D / DD5-6400 (XMP-1) combo still has a 1:1 UCLK:MCLK ratio.
Dang. Checked RAM manufacturer for motherboard compatibility, it said yes. Bought. No boot above 4800 MHz (even with EXPO), checked motherboard manufacturer, RAM not there. Oh well, guess I'm stuck at that 4800 MHz. At least until ASUS releases new BIOS update. G.Skill Flare X5 2x32GB 6000MHz, ASUS Rog Strix x870e-E Gaming.
Again, 4:17, no issues with combo 9800x3d + 6000 mhz DDR5 ? Msi says "The partial DDR5 memory module will remain running at 4800MT/s because of the architecture design by the Ryzen 9000 series CPU" on its website
as a beginner in pc building with gaming and streaming in mind, would you recommend the new R7 9800X3D or just get a R9 for more cores and threads ? (if R9 which one ?)
If you need the cores and not in a hurry, you can just wait for the 7900x3d/7950x3d. If they will have the 3D V-cache on both CCDs unlike the current gen, they might even beat the 9800x3d.
@mrlemondaddy yeah that's something I've not heard about, whether Zen5 layout will be identical to Zen4, because if so, only 9800x3d have all cores addressed to v-cache, and other Zen5 CPU will have to cross link their cores in the process which will cause them to be inferior in gaming perspective.
@@HullbreachdetectedI agree. I do hope they change it so that both CCDs will have direct contact with the 3D V-cache. Personally, I'd wait until CES 2025 for any news about the 12 and 16 core X3Ds then decide from there unless you want to build now.
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Do u have to update the X870E motherboard before booting it up with the 9800X3D (Q Flash)? Or can u boot it up and then afterwards go to BIOS and update?
PBO hurts latency or am I wrong??🤔 I've preferred locked cores up until now for more stable frames and less latency..I'm no expert tho so this could be wrong.
Dont even have to neg offset, just raise edc about 30 to 50 over the power target, it will keep lower volts because more amps are available, so if 165w edc 180-200 , my 5900x hits 5150mhz and 4650 all core
It's true upgrading memory speed for anything other than games isn't going to give you performance. And in that case you would get 128 gigabytes of RAM for projects with likely slower memory anyways. The money would be better spent from upgrading your Nvidia 4090 to a strix 4090, to get that slight slight performance increase. I know several people who did this and honestly they should just spend the money on a vacation😅
I have a 9800x3d and I swapped it in my new build w a new mobo and ram, I tried overlocking it under the expo tweaked and it completely shuts off after 2 mins of being on.. any ideas?
2:25 Very interesting The DDR5 memories are getting cheaper so I'm currently wondering if the ones with slightly higher clocks like 6200 mhz would make at different because I see them going for the same prices of 6000 mhz ddr 5 memories all the time.
If I remember correctly you'll actually LOSE performance from 6000 -> 6200 because of some kind of memory-CPU sync thing. (They might have fixed that though?) Edit: He goes over this at 2:47.
@@TheCrimsonKnight. but you can try to manual tune your ram and cpu chip, so that it still runs 1:1 ratio. but its pure luck by what cpu you have. and is the trouble and instability worth it? for like 1-5% more performance?
Nice CPU. Then you turn on the real resolution as you use to play and all its benefit goes out the windows as did you additional money spend , because top 10 CPUs show the same performance. Well done!
@@GattberserkI think Zen 5 weakness is their IO die just bottlenecks them because it's kinda odd if Zen 5% happens that bad when the engineers practically made a whole new core instead of just enhancing the Zen 4
overclock been there since pentium era, 90s, but became huge/mass on phenom era lga775, around 2006-2007, and become cheaper at phenom 2 & i5 gen2000 series
but it becomes obsolete with amd and intel introducing boost tech and cpus ootb are in max perf core ultra prob intel want to bring back those good memories
@De2t3ny You're actually severely incorrect you gen alpha. X870E comes with updated bios, same version that the 9800X3D uses . People using Google to double check their stupid statements is rare these days you know?
@@SwitchTech01 "you gen alpha" what is that even supposed to mean? the older mobos NEED an update to even run the new cpus. are you actually fucking stupid? lmfao. stop talking when you have no idea kid. fucking dumbass
VBS probably is working with the Antivirus, so you shouldn't run Antivirus while playing, disable it 100%; makes no sense for a PC that's clean to scan it for virus constantly, unless is something external: like a device, a download, or network
I just bought one on Newegg. It was a lot easier to snag if you buy the combos they offer instead of a standalone. I'm starting a build from scratch, so I needed a motherboard anyways. I paired it with the Gigabyte X870E AORUS Master. You have to check multiple times during the day, but it will show up a few times a day as sold out....but combos available.
I was actually trying to see how this will perform in star citizen. I play on a 3080ti 9700k 32gb and it’s not bad. I just need a strong cpu now and eventually I’ll upgrade to a 5080 or 5090 lmao.
the 4 things:
Bios update, Not having to upgrade RAM, A new bios feature that helps with Overclocking of the RAM and CPU
'Here's 4 things'...
States 3 😂😂😂💀💀.
great- things everyone already knew... thanks for saving me from having to watch the full yapping
MY KING
Jokes on you, I need to upgrade RAM since I'm using a 5700X3D
what if im buying whole setup fresh how can i install this update on brand new pc with brand new mothebroard etc
This is weird.... Its like its lip synched
That's all I'm thinking about. I can't pay attention to the information.
Its just weird and makes his video extreamly difficult to watch.
looks like a kung fu movie from Hong Kong
cloned his voice
It's the hand motions also... Very odd to watch
You used to speak Irish, not AI voice.
used to watch him until he got lazy and used AI to copy his voice. I hate AI voices with a passion.
I have to say, the dubbing of the voice over the video just makes it really odd for me. I'd rather you have a mic on your person and do it live. Just my opinion.
Amd did think of putting the stack on the bottom, they just couldn't do that with the layout of the previous chips, they designed this gen with that in mind so they could move it down.
I heard they couldnt afford it before
@@TKanal3 No it wasnt, when they decide to add in V-cache it is just too late into development stage that it will be extremely costly and delayed launches if they do that, so they do it during Zen 5 when it was design to be revamp ground up.
Ya, I think gamers nexus mentioned this. Like it was planned back in 2019 but the fabs were already locked in at that point. (don't quote me on this)
@@Beldan4 i cant imagine the revamp for their IOD chip for Zen 6 with 3nm. Its gonna be lit.
The 4 things it requires is
1. Thermal Paste
2. tweezers
3. screwdriver
4. Thermal Paste
Don't forget a swiss knife that hopefully has a screwdriver.
LOL
Please dont tell me your putting thermal paste on both sides of the cpu, sweet baby jeebus😂
@@brandonchappell1535 Makes the best sandwich.
Brackets and braces 😅
Why do your videos always look like a voiceover?
LOL!
cloned his voice
What do you really need: Updating BIOS to latest version
What is optional: All thing in the video.
4:00 gotta keep in mind that in addition to the 1-2ns latency improvement running 8000MT/S will also give much higher bandwidth , read/write, etc. Personally gonna just bin 3 of them and keep whichever one can do 6400c30 in 1:1 and call it a day.
I can’t wait to use this to play Diablo 2
What a waste of high tech sand 😢
@@Hey1234Hey waste ? lmao . have you played MMORPG
Same
@@stevennocella5805 🙌🙌
Also same, plus PoE2 when it comes out
3:39 Here it fully depends on silicon lottery if you can do 6400 MT/s in DIV1 mode. Mine 7950X could not do that, after it failed and I got later 7700, this one can do 6400 MT/s with ease.
Most crucial is how much VSoC you need to get it stable. If you cannot stabilise 6400 MT/s with 1300 mV or less VSoC, your chip will not do 6400 MT/s DIV1 mode, period. While mine 7950X needed 1155 mV SoC for 6000 MT/s, 7700 needed just 1030 mV SoC for same speed. So basically if you can get 6000 MT/s stable at 1100 mV or less, you have chance to run 6400 MT/s stable
I don't see the point to bother when you can get either 6000MHz @ CL28, or 8000MHz @ CL38
@ 8000 MT/s is more prone for electromagnetic interference on motherboards and can be harder to test stability. If stable it is faster than 6400 MT/s DIV1 mode, however you really need good motherboard for that
This chip is why i got 6000MHz Ram at CL30, and a X670 MB. Currently rocking a 7500F, but when i get a chance, imma buy the 9800X3D.
I believe g.skill makes 6000MHz DDR5 @ CL28!
can i ask?asus eog strix b650 e-e wil work with this??everyony is talkin o ly about x670 mbds
Running on g.skill cl32 @6000
@@milostokar4007my board b650 msi gaming plus wirfi with 64 gb g.skill trident s5 cl32-38-38-96
@DeadlyKiller54 That's a good idea, your 7500f will last until next generation honestly unless you're really trying to get high fps etc. But the 9800x3d will get similar sales that the 7800x3d did eventually, that's when it would be a good idea to grab one.
I have a Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX and I just updated the Bios a week ago and it has made some improvements in memory usage and bottleneck issues with my video card.
I'm onboard the Hype-train now - love the improvements all around, esp. in the improvements on the non-gaming side that the X3D chips of past never quite boosted.
It's cuz the gains for zen 5 X3D are almost entirely from moving the cache layer, to allow for better thermals.
So the gains are scaling right off of the higher clocks, cuz better heat dissipation. And clock speed was where older X3D's hit a slowdown, again, due to thermals.
But yeah, it removes a lot of indecision for mixed-use buyers. 9800X3D should actually pace with the 9700X in compute tasks.
I can't wait to use this to play Pong.😅
Have you actually tried to see performance changes with lower and average on higher memory speed then 6000 or 6400Mhz cause certain benchmarks show 15 to 20 fps differences on like 8000Mhz and 38CL/36CL timings.
finally a proper new CPU
Yes and the most important thing run the chipset drivers from amd as they have specific drivers for the 3D v cache so the chip works properly idk how this is not in the list but hey
I'm running a 9800x3d on an Asrock X870 Pro RS using the 3.06 BIOS which has AMD AGESA 1.2.0.0a Patch A. It's been running fine and I did look at the BIOS updates for this board, but the one using that AGESA code is only 2 weeks old and I am seeing people talking about having issues with stuck and frozen BIOS after flashing theirs. Kinda makes me not want to risk it since the system runs fine and is stable now, not sure it's worth the risk to be honest.
Bought 2 kits of G.Skill 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL30 Trident Z5 Neo black RGB AMD Expo for my strix x870-f with a 9800x3d. And enabling Expo stalls it.
It won't boot at all. And yes the ram is supported according to the manufacturer website.
AMD did think of that in the first place, but it wasnt feasible to change the structure when they are already at Zen 3 development. They have to wait till Zen 5 where the entire CPU architecture was modified from ground up then only they can place the CPU on top of the V cache.
As i don't want/need multiple nvme drives, I'm going to wait for the launch of new B series AMD motherboards which with fewer m.2 slots will be a bit less expensive than the X series boards, and perhaps put some of the extra bit of money saved towards an R9 X3D chip instead when launched next year. Just have to make sure the B series board i pick has a sufficient number of vrm's to cope with the extra cpu cores of the R9 cpu's (at least 14 or 16 vrm's to help keep temps down)
Just get a x670E only difference is like 2 usb drives less , other then that they are actually the same board.
The 6000 MT/s memory controller ratio limit isn't quite right. In fact, my Gigabyte X670E / Aorus Pro X7950X3D / DD5-6400 (XMP-1) combo still has a 1:1 UCLK:MCLK ratio.
Dang. Checked RAM manufacturer for motherboard compatibility, it said yes. Bought. No boot above 4800 MHz (even with EXPO), checked motherboard manufacturer, RAM not there. Oh well, guess I'm stuck at that 4800 MHz. At least until ASUS releases new BIOS update.
G.Skill Flare X5 2x32GB 6000MHz, ASUS Rog Strix x870e-E Gaming.
Does RAM timing need to be considered? I don’t know if I need to use CL30, 32 or 36
Did..did you voice over yourself in the intro
Hey, where did you get the AMD recommendation? I can't find it, could you send me the link?
Again,
4:17, no issues with combo 9800x3d + 6000 mhz DDR5 ?
Msi says "The partial DDR5 memory module will remain running at 4800MT/s because of the architecture design by the Ryzen 9000 series CPU" on its website
as a beginner in pc building with gaming and streaming in mind, would you recommend the new R7 9800X3D or just get a R9 for more cores and threads ? (if R9 which one ?)
If you need the cores and not in a hurry, you can just wait for the 7900x3d/7950x3d. If they will have the 3D V-cache on both CCDs unlike the current gen, they might even beat the 9800x3d.
@mrlemondaddy yeah that's something I've not heard about, whether Zen5 layout will be identical to Zen4, because if so, only 9800x3d have all cores addressed to v-cache, and other Zen5 CPU will have to cross link their cores in the process which will cause them to be inferior in gaming perspective.
I would recommend the 9950x instead.
@@HullbreachdetectedI agree. I do hope they change it so that both CCDs will have direct contact with the 3D V-cache. Personally, I'd wait until CES 2025 for any news about the 12 and 16 core X3Ds then decide from there unless you want to build now.
or wait for the 9850x3d which will have the best of both worlds, i have the 7950x3d and it does it all. Can game and stream with no lag.
I'm down with OPP, yeah you know me.
I went straight to the comments looking for this 😅 Glad I'm not the only one who thought of this song right away
Where you find this documentation about AMD recommendations?
For Additional Performance, 8GHZ RAM speeds are recommended
How do you update the bios if you don’t have a spare amd cpu? I’ve always been confused how to update the bios
Many new boards can update a bios with a usb stick and no cpu
Id like to see more 4k with upscaling test cause hardware unboxed showed huge gains fromm 7700x to 9800x3d.
This literally made my computer slower. Cinebench score was way lower after updating 🤔
Is 6600mt/s recommended or worth I was thinking about getting a kit with that
Is DDR 6000 for just 2 sticks or 4 sticks? If it's only for 2 sticks, what is the speed for 4 sticks?
I have a x870 arous and when I switch my pc on I have a cpu red light I don't know what to do
@Gamer Meld: Where to download that public documentation please?
Asus new bios is not in beta anymore hopefully the 9800x3d boot up without issue
RAZEN 7 9800x3D (AMD AM5) CPU에 CPU 쿨러와 써멀구리스 추천 (개인적인 선호부품 기재)
(컴퓨터 하드웨어 선택 이전 부품들상호 호환성과 실제 작동시 문제가 있는지 없는지 등등 온갖 주의해야 되는 부분들에 대한 충분한 공부와 자료수집은 무척 중요한 절차)
01 CPU (1개 선택하는 부품)
RAZEN 7 9800X3D (AMD AM5)
02 써멀구리스 (1개 선택하는 부품)
ARCTIC MX4 추천
03 CPU 쿨러 (1개 선택하는부품) (개인적으로 선호해서 추천기재한 3종류 제품중 1개선택추천)
(공냉(AIR COOLER) CPU Cooler중에서 대장급제품들(2024년도 기준)이므로 수냉쿨러(Water Cooler)와는 다르게 누수우려 없으면서 9800X3D에 사용해도 쿨링성능이 충분한것이 장점)
3RSYS RC1900 CPU쿨러(AMD AM5 소켓지원 모델) / 또는
PCCOOLER CPS RZ620 CPU쿨러 (AMD AM5 소켓지원 모델) / 또는
PCCOOLER CPS RZ 820 (AMD AM5 소켓지원 모델) 3종류중에 1개 선택 추천
(부품스펙호환성 기재이외에도 실제조립시 다른부품들(램방열판,메인보드,그래픽카드,케이스 등등) 과의 공간간섭이 있는지 없는지 구매전에 확인필수)
(무척 중요한 확인 절차)
컴퓨터 TIP 사용하다 문제생긴경우 데스크탑 저장장치에있는 자료 백업이후 운영체제 재설치로 대부분해결 그래도 안되는 경우 고장난부품만 제조사AS보내거나 호환되는 다른 제품으로 교체해결
일정 기간마다 써멀구리스 관리
And
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"MBTC" 1000000
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"hBTC" 100
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Do u have to update the X870E motherboard before booting it up with the 9800X3D (Q Flash)? Or can u boot it up and then afterwards go to BIOS and update?
X870/X870E MB don’t need bios update to run the 9800x3d it should be rdy to use..only the x670E to B650 are required
The asus tu gaming has failed to release a proper bios on their page they messed up their newest bios and pc has been dead since I swapped parts
he is miming
He's a wanna be italian
The best ram AND the sweet spot is 6400 MTs and set it to 1 ratio with fabric 2133 speed...
Fabric at 2133 I'm assuming your asynchronous?
If u cant get 8000/4000/2000 working 6400/3200/2133 is fastest but every cpu cant handle that... 6000mhz will work on every cpu
PBO hurts latency or am I wrong??🤔
I've preferred locked cores up until now for more stable frames and less latency..I'm no expert tho so this could be wrong.
Where can I find the review guide for the Amd Ryzen 7 9800x3d?
I tried updating my Asus ROG Hero Crosshair x870e and it freezes in bios. Pure junk.... RMA made
Dont even have to neg offset, just raise edc about 30 to 50 over the power target, it will keep lower volts because more amps are available, so if 165w edc 180-200 , my 5900x hits 5150mhz and 4650 all core
It's true upgrading memory speed for anything other than games isn't going to give you performance. And in that case you would get 128 gigabytes of RAM for projects with likely slower memory anyways. The money would be better spent from upgrading your Nvidia 4090 to a strix 4090, to get that slight slight performance increase.
I know several people who did this and honestly they should just spend the money on a vacation😅
i have the 9800 works awesome with my hero board now waiting for 5090 😁
Any rumors on when AMD RYZEN will release a desktop cpu with more than 16 cores? like 24 or 32 cores...
you mean threadripper?
how does it perform with sim apps like xplane/msfs??
Can I use my ASROCK B650E Taichi motherboard with the 9800X3D or do I need to update to X870E to get the benchmark numbers I'm seeing?
Go to their website find your board it says there
When supported you should get the numbers seen . There's nothing there in these tests that will effect the results yet
will a 4070 super be alright for the 9800x3d or do I need a higher one.
Rx7800xt will be better
is it bad to have 8000mhz ram paired up with this cpu?
Is the amd ryzen 7 9800x3d and rtx 4070 ti super good or bad combo?
Good combo. Anything below 4070 super, there’s no need to have a 9800x3D
When installing a new CPU I would try and get the latest BIOS any way but thanks for the heads up on the number.
The first thing you need is for it to be in stock at msrp 😭
thank you bud, really helpful video
so if i’m building a new pc with a new mobo can i still start the pc up with the 9800x3d before i update bios
Does regular b650 would be good with 9800x3d?
Why the ppl only talking about x670?
B650 is still fine to use it just depend on ur budget and x670 is the higher end MB tat why
@@TkoddaLee High end means nothing, probably all these guys who only talking about x670 wouldnt ever overclock their CPU further PBO.
Anybody still rocking an amd phenom 2?
Just got one im so exciteddd
I have a 9800x3d and I swapped it in my new build w a new mobo and ram, I tried overlocking it under the expo tweaked and it completely shuts off after 2 mins of being on.. any ideas?
EXPO is not working for me at all, I am in the same boat. 4800 is what I am staying at for stability sake right now.
Well that RAM stuff was stupid AF. It doesn't like it too slow or too fast? WTF?
2:25 Very interesting The DDR5 memories are getting cheaper so I'm currently wondering if the ones with slightly higher clocks like 6200 mhz would make at different because I see them going for the same prices of 6000 mhz ddr 5 memories all the time.
If I remember correctly you'll actually LOSE performance from 6000 -> 6200 because of some kind of memory-CPU sync thing. (They might have fixed that though?)
Edit: He goes over this at 2:47.
@@TheCrimsonKnight. but you can try to manual tune your ram and cpu chip, so that it still runs 1:1 ratio. but its pure luck by what cpu you have. and is the trouble and instability worth it? for like 1-5% more performance?
Is this CPU suitable for non-professional productivity tasks such as programming, basic Photoshop, and video editing?
No
It's at the top for photoshop.
It works good enough, but not the very top tier
This is mainly for gaming
Nice CPU. Then you turn on the real resolution as you use to play and all its benefit goes out the windows as did you additional money spend , because top 10 CPUs show the same performance.
Well done!
At 0:54 ...it's the number 0 (zero). Not the letter O :(
Great info. I’m going to be building a new rig with this chip when Nvidia releases the 5000 series.
Who's waiting for 11800x3d 20% uplift?
Paired with a 6090, it will be unbeatable!
@darreno1450 bro, I bet nvidia will call 60xx series Ti versions Ai, I won't miss out on 6080Ai.
@@Hullbreachdetected Yep probably. Hopefully, AMD can bring some serious GPU competition at some point in the future.
Zen 6 should be good enough, i heard its true multi chiplet design and even the IO die will be the latest generation (not Zen 4 IO on Zen 5 chip)
@@GattberserkI think Zen 5 weakness is their IO die just bottlenecks them because it's kinda odd if Zen 5% happens that bad when the engineers practically made a whole new core instead of just enhancing the Zen 4
Do i need new RAM i got a z790 and im going to amd ?
will the 9800x3d be supported by Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX V2 motherboard? or suggest me another
Yes
5800X3D,7800X3D AND 9800X3D Which's the first which one is the second gen.?
why do people keep saying overclocking is new? is it just new to the x3d chips? im confused
overclock been there since pentium era, 90s, but became huge/mass on phenom era lga775, around 2006-2007, and become cheaper at phenom 2 & i5 gen2000 series
but it becomes obsolete with amd and intel introducing boost tech and cpus ootb are in max perf
core ultra prob intel want to bring back those good memories
cheaper bcs it was really cheap like best phenom costs 90$ so as the oc capable board
think amd phenom were the first to introduce unlocked multiplier chips, for easier oc, its k series on intels
phenom was 2009 i guess, prior was athlons x2
how to get that PDF? It's so interesting.
So excited to get this to play Runescape
optimized performance profile --> OPP :D if you know you know :D
Over 9000 !!!! Liked that Vegeta figurine
Fascinating that faster memory isn't always faster.
Good info, ty.
thanks2
Thank for beta testing all the previous X3D users , now the Real CPU is out with full unlocked OC !
HELP!!! I have the X870E AORUS PRO ICE , will i have to do bios flashback for this cpu?
every board needs a bios update when you wanna use new hardware. also using google is a rare skill nowadays
@De2t3ny You're actually severely incorrect you gen alpha. X870E comes with updated bios, same version that the 9800X3D uses . People using Google to double check their stupid statements is rare these days you know?
@@SwitchTech01 "you gen alpha" what is that even supposed to mean? the older mobos NEED an update to even run the new cpus. are you actually fucking stupid? lmfao. stop talking when you have no idea kid. fucking dumbass
My 5800 X3d scoffs and says not yet boyo.
in 2x speed it looks like you're conducting and orchestra
VBS probably is working with the Antivirus, so you shouldn't run Antivirus while playing, disable it 100%; makes no sense for a PC that's clean to scan it for virus constantly, unless is something external: like a device, a download, or network
good luck finding one they're sold out everywhere
I just bought one on Newegg. It was a lot easier to snag if you buy the combos they offer instead of a standalone. I'm starting a build from scratch, so I needed a motherboard anyways. I paired it with the Gigabyte X870E AORUS Master. You have to check multiple times during the day, but it will show up a few times a day as sold out....but combos available.
What in the sing song nightmare is this?
for asus it is a beta bios, why is that?
Pokemon Gold emulator will run so fkn fast
Those hands and arms...
Mm that sweet extra cache will help star citizen performance a bit ❤
I was actually trying to see how this will perform in star citizen. I play on a 3080ti 9700k 32gb and it’s not bad. I just need a strong cpu now and eventually I’ll upgrade to a 5080 or 5090 lmao.
Install chipset?
I'm down with OPP! Yeaaa you know me!
So, it's over 9000?
4:49 RX 7950XTX ?
😂😂😂
Yeah wtf!? Wonder if he’s referring to the swapping of thermal paste, and adding over clock and bios flash to allow even more power to it
Irish is better than AI. Embrace humanity!!
Seeing intel ads before this video is hilarious
Thats not his voice.