9:30 - Just an FYI, you don't need to download the voice models one by one from Nexus Mods. If you have Nexus Premium, you can download one or all of them through xVASynth app. This and other methods are described in the official Mantella guide.
This is actually insane... Stumbled upon this mod while modding Skyrim VR for the first time. Never would've guessed this was already possible. Skyrim modders are built different.
Absolutely, I really do think it will be the future of gaming and NPC interactions. In VR its incredible. I'm currently working with a developer who is designing this same mod for Fallout 4. So subscribe and stay tuned, he is getting close to release. I will be making his official tutorial video.
Did you end up having any issues? I followed this tutorial to the letter and keep getting errors. The game loads and everything and I even reinstalled the mod and everything but keep getting “ NPC not added.” Error
I have to say you put a lot of work into your videos.. How you explain everything step by step clearly and detailed and even down to how you format and provide links. Well done!
Thank you for the kind words! I really think VR has so much potential and we need more content out there to show the larger developers that! Thanks again 😊
Just a quick FYI for folks - one thing that wasn't covered in this tutorial - as one of the last steps, before running Mantella - you need to crack open that directory that contains the Mantella executable and open Mantella's config.ini: in that file, make sure the directories to your Skyrim Game folder, xVA synth location, etc. are properly set to the right directories. The default settings are placeholders that are not correct, but they have comments above the setting that will tell you what to do. Additionally, this mod might not work properly if you installed SkyrimSE/VR on your primary OS (C:\) drive via Steam - you want to install Skyrim Special Edition or Skyrim VR on an alternate drive, in a dedicated steam library folder. This config.ini file is also where you can set LLM token limits (for better NPC memory), LLM choice (GPT-4, GPT-3.5, local LLM models), LLM prompts for different NPC interactions, and so on. It's all pretty well documented in the file, so it's worth looking through the whole thing so you can tweak it to your liking.
Thanks for the comment, I realised I missed the config directories once published 🙄 so I put it in the description. I also didn't want this video to go on for 30 minutes so I didn't go into LLMs in this video but made a separate one. Can't remember but I think I mention an upcoming language model video In this one. 👊 comment always appreciated
The extra hoops to get AI npc mods working is the only thing holding back wide adoption. Once someone packages all the settings, API stuff, file configurations, voice packs, into an autoinstaller this is going to take off like crazy.
is there anyway you could explain how to do that, I'm having this problem and I don't really know what it means to "set to a directory" sorry (I'm not good at this stuff)
Thank you so much for this. I spent Sunday installing and setting up etc and it's working great. I could never have done this without your step by step guide!! I've not played Skyrim since launch many years ago, but this pulled me back and is great in a Pimax Crystal. Just need to find a way to get this running with 'Mad God's Overhaul' if that's even possible, and I'm set for the year 😃. Thanks again, really appreciate it! Subbed!
I'm really happy I could help you! Check out my video on changing tbr language models 😊 you can tweak Mantella's LLM to an improved language! Have fun! 🫶
Naaaah he's a big kitty cat hahaha. If you go into MCM and allow aggro the NPCs attack you if you annoy them too much. Kajits don't like being called kitty cats 🤣
They do already. Each LLM has what called a token count. The more expensive the LLM the higher the token count. The higher the token count the more each NPC can remember. I annoyed the blacksmith and he remembered it and didn't like me because of it when I spoke to him next time after a bit of questing. You can literally walk up to an NPC after a while of gaming and ask them if they remember your last conversation, name, details you may have told them. It's all stored in the LLM and stays there for each play. It's pretty baffling.
@@DeadPixelGaming very interesting. I´ve been playing Skyrim for thousands of hours and I will read into how to install this. Is VR mandatory or does it work with the "normal" version?
Amazing tutorial thank you!!! For any modding noobs out there just carefully read the mantella console messages when they do fail. Oftentimes they provide a link or tell you exactly what the issue is. For me, it came down to file paths. It was adding a subfolder to the paths that didn't exist. Double check all your paths in config.ini to point to the right file locations, and make sure you scroll down a bit to select your language model. That part got me stuck for a bit 😅
You're welcome! 😊 I made this guide before I met the devs. So I had no guidance. I made the Fallout 4 guide with guidance from the devs so it's a bit more clear. This guide was also made before the config change after the Fo4 implementation so it will look slightly different. But I've left my Discord and the Mantella discord for any further support. Glad you're up and running! Enjoy 😁
@@DeadPixelGaming super impressive that the tutorial you made with no guidance got me 99% setup which is amazing hahaha I would've long given up without this video cheers 🍻
You're very welcome man! Hey if you have a 4080/4090 have a think about trying a local xTTS model. It sounds so much more realistic and less robotic. Haurus made a good tutorial on it.
Hi, i am braziliam sorry for bad english, but i have a question, i am not vr user, what the main mod to speak to npc using mic? i use text input but is not immersive at all
👌👊 free on Openrouter. Open.AI is GPT API. I get a lot of complaints saying "you should have mentioned it wasn't free"... bah 😅 thanks for the comment man
30p a DAY to play SkyrimVR with Mantella through OpenAI? If it was a one off payment to use it indefinately? I'd be cool with that. But subscription service? Gutted! I almost had the mods all completely installed, spent a few free nights to download all the voice files and set it up. Gutted! 😮💨
If you watch my reporter video for Fo4 and compare it to my skyrim videos you'll notice the Fo4 videos are more realistic and that's because I use a local model with xTTS to synthesise the voice and its insanely real / sweary / emotional! As for what Mantella is currently cooking up it's currently a secret but it'll blow your mind... its blown mine
I've not tried it for Skryim but yes it's a lot better. You do however need a 4080S or a 4090. It uses a huge amount of resources. Alternatively you can use runpod.io. xTTS also runs directly through the mantella launcher so once you start mantella it launches xTTS. It's good stuff. The difference in voice from xva to xTTS in Fo4 is night and day... it just can't do cotswold or robots well (ironically)
I doubt Rockstar will allow it. We had full VR with Praydogs mod but Rockstar gave him a cease and desist. I was one of the lucky few who got to play it. When I put footage up people thought it was a hoax lol.
hello brother, thank you for the guide. But, im having an issue where it says " NPC not added, please wait again after your next respond" Im using skyrim special edition but updated to AE. thought i followed the guide correctly im assuming and downloaded files for AE. not sure if everything is right or im missing something
Hi there, have you managed to have a conversation yet? If so always make sure to end conversation before walking away. When you have this error after a conversation just minimise your game and restart mantella. I keep SKSEVR and mantella on my hot bar to make this easier.
I think my last comment bugged out or something, good video, thanks for the help, I ended up joining their discord and have been asking (interrogating) one of the devs and it seems like they are in the process of swapping the communication language (nerd stuff) removing the need to move the game out of the (x86) folder, once they do that I will be making a few videos on this mod on my channel, in the future, so thanks again and here's to the future of AI in video games 👍
Annoyingly youtube likes to delete comments thinking they are malicious when they are not. Truth be told I've always installed in x86 and never had any issues. I'm glad I could at least get you most of the way 😊
I mentioned it in the video, it's recomended to create a directory outside of x86 for the game folder and mods as Windows doesn't like changing files in x86. That being said I've always installed my games and thr mod in x86 and never had problems... (I think I mention it in my Fo4 Mantella video).
@@DeadPixelGaming ah okay i will try that now, i've been looking for the torrent link for the xvasynth but I think i am missing it something I checked their discord but only found the packs for the extra mods but not the vanilla voices
@Vlask it's in a sub menu under XVASynth in github. It's hidden away. If you see my Fo4 video you'll see where the Fo4 one is. I presume it will be the same for th Skyrim github. This is a working development so a lot has changed in the short time since I've made this video.
ok guys if you don't want to doube your space this mod will take delete the archives after extracting them. example would be right before 14:12 he extracted them all and kept the archives. the archives are just compressed versions and still contain all the data. that folder now is almost 38gb instead of 18gb.
Why would anyone need to be told to delete the compressed VM's? Once extracted and used the compressed VM's are obviously to be deleted. If someone following this tutorial didn't know that I doubt they'd be able to successfully carry it out this tutorial especially considering the changes made to Mantella since I've made this guide.
@DeadPixelGaming for the most part, the tutorial is done well enough, I'd say a complete novice could easily follow along, and successfully have no issues. Reminiscent of gamer poets in the early days. I guess I had mistaken this as a beginner tutorial and felt the comment was nessisary as such. Don't forget people of all skill levels will watch this. Some just getting into modding, and think it's all magic.
@Knobs4u you're right. Lots of different skill levels and very easy to forget people newer to the modding scene don't know these things. I appreciate the comment, I'd made this tutorial before I had contact with the Mantella devs. The Fo4 one was with support. Soon they'll drop an update which will change a lot and make the install process much easier. 😊
Thanks !! For me I installed for Skyrim Special Edition, it's fine, but you don't show in your video the config.ini file to edit before starting mantella, where you have to indicate what ai model you select, what location VAXSynth etc...
I really don’t understand how the AI know how to role play as each NPC so well Did the mod authors write scripts for the AI to understand the lore or is chatgpt is really that advanced It’s crazy I really can’t wait to try this myself Imagine talking to NPCs and end up making your own unmarked quest
I thinks it's a bit of both really, I think mantella gives each character a short brief on who they are and GPT chat bots do the rest. It'd wizardry if you ask me... I've come across a few bugs, you know the roaming hunter's, male and female. Well mantella can't differentiate between them as they are both always called hunter. So the female has a male voice. The funniest bug I had was trying to talk to a noble on a horse. Eventually the noble freaked and and ran away and I realised it was actually the horse I was talking to... he told me a long story about how he was a magical horse born with the abilities to talk to humans and that he was glad the gods had blessed him with it 🤣🤣😂 truly I haven't done anything in the games quest line. All I do is mess with players with mantella hahaha
There's a skyrim_characters spreadsheet with thousands of npc entries. Each entry includes a bio for the LLM (AI) to use as a reference for how to properly roleplay that npc. Originally, these bios were all copy/pasted from the TES wiki. Over the past months I have been editing/overhauling these bios, adding in info that npc should know, and removing spoilery info, discussion of game mechanics and bugs, etc. Myself and others have also added entries for about a thousand different npcs from mods.
I've not tried that no, thank you for the kind words. It's a long process and I wanted to make sure it was as clear as possible so as many people could enjoy it.
This is great,❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 i have been searching a lot on how to install,, this is the only video that i found🤣🤣 thanks bro,, but i have a question. Is the voice chat have restrictions like nsfw and stuff?
Hey, make sure to read the description when installing there's a few extra steps. For the NSFW stuff you have to change the langauge model, it's a guide I plan on making soon. There are hundreds of LLMs but I'm yet to find a NSFW one that isn't janky. AI at the moment is being censored closely because of its capabilities. If you get stuck on the guide jump on my Discord I'll try give you a hand
Hi, I followed all steps but I still get the error message “NPC not added” when trying to start a conversation I’m on normal SE version not VR. Checked Mantella, and it says the path set in config.ini does not exist
Hi thank you, im glad you liked the guide. A few things have changed, as mentioned in the description its now free with the current LLM and API. It supports about 12 languages off the top of my head, you can change the langauge in the config.ini. Please remember that if you choose to do so, dont do the CMUdict part of the tutorial as thats only for english. Glad it helped! dont forget to sub!
Ive spent 6 hours on my free day and cannot get this thing to work... i followed the instructions to the letter and when i attempt to speak to a npc it always says " npc not added". There are not q&a ANYWHERE online that could possibly have a fix to this and im stuck figuring it out all alone. Can someone for the love of Talos please HELP ME!
Talos be with you. When you run XVA do you see the list of all the voice packs? Do you also keep XVA running in the background while in game? This is a common issue I've seen before have you asked the mantella discord? I plan on working with the devs to make a new tutorial as the mod had changed a bit.
@@DeadPixelGaming honestly I want to try a fresh install but it took me 3 days straight to get all my mods working for Skyrim VR. I do keep VA opened in the back, then I open my game and wait for it to load then I open up mantella. I noticed that the mantella exe file is displaying the npcs voice lines but it doesn’t transfer to the game and then I get the “ npc not added” error message afterwards. I am in the middle of trying to get help in discord
I have a quick question. After getting the mod up and running, once I get into a game it says “NPC not added. Please try again after your next response.” When I try to talk to them. What exactly is it prompting me to do? I have all voice models loaded into VAsynth, so I don’t get why it gives me this notification.
Hi, sorry for the late response. This has been a regular issue. I'm looking at potentially making a troubleshooting video which will cover all the common bugs. Until then try in the Mantella discord
i think ill wait to see your next tutorial on how to do this, im already having issues and im not even 1/3 through the tutorial. Im also not using the VR version even though I have it
The vr version with other mods is the best way to experience it. I'll have a new tutorial out I'm just waiting the new version which the devs are working on. After they've implemented HTTP it should be a much easier install. Either way, people are still able to use this mod to get Mantella installed on Skyrim I'm getting a lot of comments. Check out my Fo4 mantella video where I go through the new config
Danke dir. jemand der es anständig erklären tut. werde ich mir morgen noch mal ansehen und es schritt für schritt tun. Grüße aus Deutschland. Thank you. someone who can explain it properly. I'll look at it again tomorrow and do it step by step. greetings from Germany wish you a nice time
I’m using OpenAI for my model, I realise it’s costing a lot more than expected using the GPT 4 turbo, is there another AI platform that we can use that is free? It’s working out as like a dollar every hour or so
Eh I figured a lot of it out, but i'm running into an issue with the LLM. {"error":{"message":"Missing Authentication header or invalid API key","code":401}} I paid for it, added the key double checked but it's not using it. Does openAI not work anymore?
Please check the description of the video, since making this video the standard API has been changed to openrouter toppyaifree LLM. As you've already topped up an openai account you may as well change the langauge model to the openai LLM. The default API is in the config.ini under language model.
@@DeadPixelGaming I found it after some searchin, I saw on the mantella nexus update, he changed the default LLM and I found it through that. I have everything working now except the MCM, all I have is skyUI, but I'll figure that piece out. I must have used an outdated/to recent release of something. So everything works, except npcs following and stuff, but worst case I can live with that. Thanks Man!
got to the part to make a shortcut of the loader to the desktop, but in the game folder it does not show any file labeled loader at all? Really want this mod to work. please, any help would be greatly appreciated.
I actually got it to work, thanks dude! Please let me know if there is a way to remove the no npc added error Even tho it works half the time. I'm doing it all via virtual desktop btw
Hey! Glad you got it working. Make sure to always end conversations or else you'll get this issue. Sometimes it happens too if you miss with the spell. Just use end conversation and spam start with a different npc and it'll sort it.
Every time I try to interact with an NPC it says: "NPC not added. Please try again after your next response" in the top left corner. Does anyone know how to fix this?
I'm having trouble with XVASynth. I installed all the 80+ voice models into the folder where you showed, but the XVASynth is saying it can't find them. Run into anything like that before?
Did you extract the voice files directly into the Skyrim folder you made or did you just extract the download files directly into the skyrim folder? You need to copy the voice files to the Skyrim folder. If this isn't the issue if you watch my video I show how to direct XVASynth to the correct folder.
@@DeadPixelGaming I did miss a step. However, I think downloading them all through XVASynth (I have a nexus subscription) was far easier than pulling all those files out of each folder individually 80+ times. Still, thank you so much for the reply!
Hey no problem, here to help! I pinned a comment saying it's better to do the single download instead of all individually. I was learning as I was going too to be honest its a lengthy process! Hope you have fun with it!
Woohooo! Someone who reads the description! It's only 5000 characters!! I get so many comments of people complaining about paying that I have to reply to saying ts free...
Little question: I have everthing set up, but when i use the spell, the software just says, "Waiting for player to select an NPC". Absolutely nothing is happening. (I try to talk to a guard.) Besides it is a great guide!
Is there a tutorial for a non VR version installation of this? Because I've followed this tutorial twice and resulted in the same problem with a DLL file and Address Library.
Hi there, yes it is possible in non vr. Firstly your unofficial patches need to be the latest ones (in the video for VR it has to be a specific older one) also you need to select the non-vr versions. If you are using SE or AE you need to select the correct Papyrus and library mods.
This tutorial is out dated I'm waiting for the new update which will change everything before I make another tutorial It now comes loaded with an openrouter LLM so just use openrouter for the key. Read the config.ini it literally tells you what to enter.
Hey, I'm actually going to be making the latest guides on their new release which will completely change how this is installed (it will be much easier). I'm waiting on their release, I've been told it won't be too much longer.
When I try to talk to M'aiq the Liar using the Mantella Spell I get a text on the top left screen that says: "NPC not added. Please try again after your next response" What does it mean?
i may need your help with this one, keeps telling me there was an error with my Papyrusutil installation everytime time i try to do the start conversation montella spell or anytime i try speaking to them in general
Have you managed to make any conversations at all? If so remember to use the end convo spell or this can pop up. Are you also sure you've started SKSEVR through the shortcut that's been set to run as admin?
@@DeadPixelGaming I haven't been able to make conversation at all. It gives me that same error with every NPC. I have tried end convo as well. I'm using MO2 and have been starting the game via skse, but am not using VR.
@@DeadPixelGaming I found something that is probably contributing to the problem. When I open the Mantella shortcut it reads: "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition" does not exist! The path set in config.ini: "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition" Press any key to exit...
Also, I can't guarantee the process will work if you're using a different mod manager and not following the process directly I.e opening via the SKSEVR/SKSE launcher. These are things I have not tested.
unfortunately i keep getting this error in mantella when npc is trying to respond to me: Error 401: Unauthorized. ERROR: Invalid API key. If you are trying to connect to OpenAI, please choose an OpenAI model via the 'model' setting in MantellaSoftware/config.ini. If you are instead trying to connect to a local model, please ensure the service is running" I've done everything, everything is in the correct path, I set a language model, I set api key with credit, i dont know what to do.
What this line is referring to is the API in config.ini. The config.ini is now set to openrouter as default not openai. So you need to change the API in the language models section. When I first made this guide the API was set to openai. Although with that being said I believe that mantella now detects which API is being used and automatically adjusts... hmm have a look in your config under language model.
@@DeadPixelGaming Thank you, I tried different models between openai and openroute it worked. now that it works (extremely slow), it stops working after like 2 chats. Extremely buggy and clunky, is it the same case for you and everyone ?
@GaminCityy it's down to which model you use. Toppyaifree is a free one and actually not that bad. You have to know that many of these models are not made for game AI but for classes or other applications. There are set recommended LLMs which work well and some which are terrible!!
Regarding the delay, there always will be one. You're asking software a question, it's changing it into text based on what it thinks it's heard, its then sending that text as a request to an AI on a server, the server then deals with the request and sends the answer back and then once its back XVA converts it into a voice response. All things considered it's pretty fast.
When i open Mantella in the last step, appears this "Mantella currently running for SkyrimVR (C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\SkyrimVR). Mantella mod located in C:\Modding\MO2\SkyrimVR\mods\Mantella 12:51:28.038 ERROR: "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\SkyrimVR" does not exist! The path set in config.ini: "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\SkyrimVR" Press any key to exit..." How can i resolve it?
No, Po3 should work fine. Although it's been a long time since I've done this! Some things are due to change, including a big change in the install process
Open the config.ini. there are 3 paths required. 1: where the game is, 2: where the mods folder is and 3: where xva is. Check my latest video, Fallout 4 VR Mantella. Its there.
that worked for the skyrim folder but now in red its saying "13:19:32.004 ERROR: "C:\mod\Sound\Voice\Mantella.esp" does not exist!" ive tryed everything and i watched your fall out vid talking abt it but i changed it in the .ini and it keeps saying that@@DeadPixelGaming
You just need to set the 3rd path to where your xva exe is. I can give you 1 to 1 guidance on my Discord but not this moment I'm afraid. Maybe if you have time tomorrow? It appears to me that your paths are incorrect.
Followed everything correctly, I assume. But I'm having an issue with Mantella, the EXE closes on its own after starting up and "waiting for player to select NPC" and when I go to start it back up it's deleted from my PC... Looks like it may be antivirus putting it into quarantine but nothing shows up in windows firewall or BitDefender. Flabbergasted.
That's very odd windows defender has never given me any issues. If it's your virus defence you'll need to set an exception in your virus defence app. You can set a folder which your anti virus software leaves alone.
@@DeadPixelGaming Thanks. I was able to figure it out. While I had everything else running I kept missing the bitdefender notification. I solved it by running mantella without anything else running until bitdefender attempted quarantine and then stopped that process. Hasn't happened again. Cheers!
Hey. thanks for this. it is appreciated. but a couple things. You move very fast - it was humbling as hell for a newbie like me. Second, i'm stuck at the mantella file...my nord vpn was cool downloading everything else prior. But there's apparently an exe file on there that doesn't that's scanned as malware. Is it just for redundancies to GPT? Why would there be malware?
Hey, apologies if I was fast but I didn't want people to see 30 minutes and think sod that! I can assure you there's no malware, your VPN might not like working with GPT as its server based? Be sure to read the description there are a few extra steps I missed. If you get stuck jump on my Discord and I'll help as best as I can. I'm working with the Mantella devs on a tutorial for Fallout4 😊
@@DeadPixelGaming Alright i bit the bullet and downloaded it but the mantella spell has 9 different files i gotta download. do those all get dragged and dropped into vortex? do i drag and drop the entire mantella software into vortex, or just the gpt secret key? it kinda wasnt clear
What? The secret key stays in the mantella folder. The key is gained from the open.ai website. All mods should be downloaded via the "vortex download" button which as I said at the beginning of the video is how most of the files will be downloaded.
The mantella spell gets dropped into vortex or installed directly from nexus using the vortex install feature. The mantella software is kept separately. It has nothing to do with vortex and is where you will run mantella in the background from when skyrim is open
@@DeadPixelGaming I know this is probably a loaded ask but is there any way I can pay you for a facetime call or skype call to help me? You can charge by the damn minute. I downloaded all the voice models on XVA synth and I'm trying to do the step where I put them in the skyrim folder and extract them, but I'm on windows 11 and it's not doing the same thing as yours/not allowing me to highlightt all files and extract. please. lol. I've devoted so much time to trying to do this that I got most of the way through and am about to give up. I need like 15 minutes of your time and you can name your price lmfao
I’m trying to set up my config.ini path locations. I am trying to find the folder that contains xtts-api-server-mantella.exe. I’m pretty sure that was never mentioned in the video. Do they mean the mantella.exe in the Mantella software folder?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I’m totally lost now.
@@DeadPixelGaming hey thanks for the quick reply! I think the other paths are correct, but I haven’t tested yet so I can get back to you on discord if I need help. Thanks again!
Can I run it? I got 2* 4090 rog strix, 14900ks, 2tb eec ram at 6400mhz on gen 5 nvme Jokes aside, can you configure it with use to llm studio locally instead of open ai?
Just 2x4090s? Peasant spec! Yes you can run it locally using xTTS. You will need a 4080+ for reasonable performance. I ran it locally using xTTS and a 4080S and still preferred to pay runpod to hire a GPU to get extra performance.
I'm good until right at the end and when I go to open everything up I get an error from mantella saying "Mantella currently running for SkyrimVR (C;\games\steam\steamapps\common\skyrimVR) . Mantella mod located in C:\modding\M02\skyrimVR\mods\mantella 15:01:07.075 ERROR: "C:\games\steam\steamapps\common\SkyrimVR" does not exist! the path set in config.int: "C:\Games\Steam|steamapps\common\SkyrimVR" anybody willing to help? Im not very tech savvy and I spent about two days working through this to get this error at the end :(
Hi there. Please look at the video description you need to set 3 paths in the config.ini. if you struggle go on my Discord and I'll guide you in a moment if you're free
im confused on the set path on mantella, im using regular skyrim as my default set path in the mantella config but its still giving me an error that it cant find my skyrim wtf
You're playing two separate games. Skyrim VR is not Skyrim. You would follow the guide as normal but with a second mantella install (same xva install). Your config would point to the vr game and the current xva.
I would suggest anniversary as it's got everything however SE would work too. Just be sure to use SE on Nexus and Voetez and be sure to use the non-vr versions of the apps. For example. SKSE (for your version) library mod not library VR. All your Papyrus mods too.
I only got the PapyrusUtil AE SE - Scripting Utility Functions. is that okay? i didn't get the other 2 because it had the word VR in it. @@DeadPixelGaming
You're kidding right? I use noromaidneversleep which is one of the most expensive LLMs and in hours of playing I don't get near to 50c... it comes loaded with a free LLM from openrouter. You can literally do this for free.
11:16 I found that he installed the Skyrim VR USSEP Compatibility Patch incorrectly. You need to extract it to somewhere and run the .exe to create the patched DLC files (It will be in a zip file). then install the zip file into your own mod manager. (Though, Thanks for the guide - helps me a lot in other steps.)
It worked fine for me, but I've been working with the Mantella devs for a bit and it appears some of these steps aren't necessary. Like updating xVA to 3.02. I'm releasing the guide for Fo4 mantella on Saturday! It's awesome! Stay tuned. I hope to release a demonstration video this afternoon.
@@DeadPixelGaming Oh hell yeah. I also just found out the other day that there's the version for FO4 as well. My buddy also likes FO4 and is amazed by this mod capability. Thanks for your hard work. About the mod worked fine, yes the mod installed that way won't do anything. So it won't break the game, but also not patch anything. If installed correctly, this patch mod will replace all 6 esm files: Skyrim.esm, Update.esm, Dawnguard.esm, HearthFires.esm, Dragonborn.esm, and SkyrimVR.esm 467 MB in size.
Thanks for the kind comments. I was working last night with the main dev of the mod and hope to get a first draft to him tonight. Aim is to post it on Saturday 😁. We have to fight for VR and prove to the big dev companies that VR is worth investing in!!
@@DeadPixelGaming Hehe, that's the spirit. I love the idea of beating the bi(u)g companies. I respect Mantella's dev so much. And you are ... breathtaking!
Hey everyone . Can anyone tell me if the process for this mod is the same for the mad God overhaul? I know it's included in the mod itself. What I'm asking is. If one wishes to use this mod. (Keep in mind skyim vr is already launching through mod organizer) Does this mean I still have to go the vortex route and install all those other "redundant" mods again but via vortex? Or is it possible to do it all via mod organizer and then just do the additional software and voice download steps. Again via mod organizer? Is this a possibility? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
When I run matella i get an error 18:03:02.039 ERROR: "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\SkyrimVR" does not exist! The path set in config.ini: "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\SkyrimVR"
Mantella is similar to UEVR in that it changes files whilst they are in use. Some anti-virus suites see that as a threat. You'd need to set an exemption for Mantella.
No entiendo por qué pides que se desinstale el juego si luego todos los procedimientos que tienes que hacer (añadiendo el juego a Vortex, luego los mods y demás) necesitan del juego instalado. Favor aclare ese punto
No es una parte necesaria del proceso. Pero siempre lo recomiendo porque el 50% de las personas que tienen problemas para instalar mods les sobran mods/mods a medio instalar y demás basura que causa problemas. Con una instalación nueva y limpia puedo estar seguro de que funcionará. (pero todavía la gente no escucha y todavía tiene problemas). Espero haber respondido a su pregunta.
@@DeadPixelGaming Es solo que algunos lo querrán más detallado, en el sentido de que, en vez de decir que se debe "desinstalar" el juego es mejor decir se debe "reinstalar"
thank you however im now having an issue in game where it says "NPC not added. Please try again after your next response". i have all the neccesary mods installed as i needed the anniversary edition mods because of my version number. bit stuck feel like im so near yet so far
Well, that's one way of looking at it? Another way of looking at it is that it now comes without Open.ai but comes with a free LLM from Openrouter. So it's now free.
so uh... whats going on with the ussep patches?? any mod I download after that "requires four masters" Am I the only person in the world looking for that fix? (Also I'm kinda new to modding but I've successfully downloaded over 200 mods without issue.
Can't say I've come across this issue, are you sure they aren't all the prerequisites you needed already such as SKSEVR etc? If not check in the Mantella discord they are brilliant
@@DeadPixelGaming I figured it out. Honestly it was confusing, and easy at the same time. People need to make a tutorial on this or something. God maybe I should lol. I'm new to modding. But yeah, you provided the wrong link for the Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch and installed the VR one incorrectly. I don't even know how you managed to get it working yourself. I still used your video and gave you a like though.
@unnateural I made this tutorial when it was in its infancy without support from the devs. I had to research everything. A lot has changed since I made this guide, the config.ini especially. I'm not in any rush to make an updated version of this tutorial because it pretty much gets you there, and it was a long ass project. If you see my Fo4 guide its a lot more coherent and that's because I had the opportunity to work directly with the developer of the mod. Either way, thank you for the comment.
@@DeadPixelGaming Actually I just screwed up modding hardcore and had to start flat over. Tried installing it the same way and LOOT says it's not compatible. Is that normal? Still on USSEP problems. Man I manually downloaded all 85 files last night, don't wanna lose that haha
@unnateural jump on the mantella discord which I linked and ask for help. Alternatively I will be making an xTTS voice synthesised tutorial. It's much much better, just requires a 4080+ or to use runpod.io
Is it normal for the npc's to take a long time to listen or sometimes not even listen at all? I got it all working but the interactions feel so wonky and slow. Are you experiencing this too and is it just the way it is at this point in time?
You'll get used to casting the spell and timing your questions. Make sure to end all conversations or it can get buggy. And yes it takes a couple seconds, the better the language model the faster the response. I made a video on LLMs have a look on my channel and be sure to subscribe if it's helped!
Reality vs expectations. We all watch a Brainfrog video and want that, truth is just enjoy his videos because his editing makes this seem much smoother than it is. Not to mention his creativity. It's like expectations towards DnD after watching Matt Mercer DM a game.
@TrailerTrashThorne I know brainfrog, he's in my Discord and I in his. He uses xTTS to synthesise not XVA its far far superior but requires a 4080+ or runpod.io. He also uses a brilliant VM, one I used later in Fo4 videos. And yes also not to mention the guys a genius with his ideas and editing
@@DeadPixelGaming Indeed bro. Seriously though, thank you man. These tutorials mean a lot. I'm just waiting for the mods to be a little bit more supported (I doubt that's the word lol just easier to install it seems like these require some extra tinkering) like I've been modding my games since 09, but this is too much for me. I just can't wait till I can make friends in Skyrim lol and hopefully you will show us how. Subbed man.
Thanks for the sub man, so you are in luck. I know the lead dev and they are currently working on a much easier install using HTTP. It'll cut the whole process way down and make it much easier. Still waiting on its release so watch this spot 👊
So a lot has changed since this tutorial, I will be making a new one once they have their next update. If you read the description you'll see it's now free, it uses Toppyaifree which is openrouter as standard. You can also use a local model using xTTS the guide is on the github but it needs either an RTX4080s/4090 it takes a lot of resources. An alternative to running your LLM locally is by using Runpod.io but you've got to pay for that. Don't forget to subscribe, the new tutorial will be up as I said when their next major update comes.
No not in the slightest. Toppy is good because its free. I use noromaidneversleep. Its uncensored and tends to lean towards swearing. I know Brainfrog, he uses that model too.
Before I travel down this road does anyone know if I can use something like LLM Studio for this? Do I just need an API key or does it check if it's an OpenAI one?
Hi bro, i think i got everything and just Mantella keeps getting errors XD First i had to find skyrim then xVa and now i don't get it. Keeps saying Mantella.esp doesn't exist? PLEASE HELP
@@DeadPixelGaming Hi bro, thanks for fast reply. You're the best. I fixed it by finding it in MO2 plugins and navigating to the file. Now everything works but when i cast Mantella it says ''This character doesn't exist'' something like that no matter who i talk to.
Waiting for next response or something like that? Make sure you always end conversations and some NPCs or guards don't work. Have you managed to get it to work with other characters?
@@DeadPixelGaming Sadly no, i would definitely catch on that. It says that this character doesn't exist so it's not possible to talk i think EDIT: I installed it within a FUS modpack from wabbajack
@1998natan oh man I can't speak for any other modpacks / wabajack. I know they can cause conflictions. Do you have all your voice packs installed, did you see the full list? Sounds to me like it's the XVA side of things, did you install lip and fuz?
To put this into context, as mentioned in the video (and the script follow up video) after a couple days of playing with mantella I used 70p. Roughly a dollar.
@@DeadPixelGamingi respect it. but i'll wait til the idea is stolen by big tech, and there's unlimited free dialogue. hopefully Bethseda is takin note on thee mods for future gaming ideas
@Mos_High you'll be waiting a very long time then. It's developers like Artfromthemachine, Praydog and Luke Ross who are keeping VR alive. Look at GTA5 VR... The only thing that brought me back to GTA5 was Luke Ross's mod and guess what "big tech" shut it down game him a cease and desist and put zero of their own time into the technology.
Also, if you think that big tech is going to give high end data computation like AI language models for cheaper than the current companies (OpenAI GPT and Open Router) I hate to say it but you'd be wrong.
I tried this for 1 week every single day but there are bunch of errors 1- Mantella cmd says can no find folder of game it is so funny because it is there 2- in game mods not getting activated I see still default scenes 3- I see spells in game but when I try to use it it says "make sure you downloaded correct one" I did I am sure 100% I followed this video step by step and also I listened him carefully word to word sooo Goodluck guys I am failed
@@DeadPixelGaming Thank you I have tried it too but all these things getting just more complicated. I will wait more and if these things gets more easy to do I will get into action again. Thank you
It's not I'm afraid, however you can use wingmanAI from shipbit. However it wouldn't make NPCs talk to you It's more like an AI you can talk to and give a purpose
Hi, check my channel. I released a video this afternoon on how to change your language model. OpenRouter has free ones. Check the video outland comment / like 👍
Really? The ones on OpenRouter? That's weird why are they listed as free. In order to run a local model you would need a very high end PC with a GPU with at 16gb VRAM. I've heard of people with 4090's struggling
The only difference between this process in VR and non-vr is that all the downloads with VR / SKSE, Papyrus, Library Address etc just needs the non-vr equivalents. It's a complicated process but rewarding. I am waiting for the new update release before I make a new guide
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9:30 - Just an FYI, you don't need to download the voice models one by one from Nexus Mods. If you have Nexus Premium, you can download one or all of them through xVASynth app. This and other methods are described in the official Mantella guide.
SOOOO NOOOW YOU TELL ME ????????????
I just wanted to keep you on your toes 🤣
i deadass downloaded all 84 files currently extracting them lol@@DeadPixelGaming
You got this bro. Make sure you read the description, you need to setup your config.ini (locate 3 folders) but it literally tells you
@@dat1dudewhowatchesytvideos SAME. :(
Hi, Scott from the future here.
It's now the year 2034 and I've only just finished installing all of the voice packs. Can confirm it works, thank you.
Nexus throttled download speeds. Sorry Scott from the future. How's Skyrim 8? What GTA 7 a failure like we all expected?
@@DeadPixelGaming I can confirm that we're still waiting for GTA 7, it's set for release 01/04/2069
Have they hired Praydog yet to teach them how to mod GTA for VR yet? Or did he die of old age before his DMCA ran out?
Felix from the future.
It's now the year 2069 and were still waiting for GTA 7 in 01/04/3000.
@@scotttowers1759 they actually delayed it to 4/20/69
This is actually insane... Stumbled upon this mod while modding Skyrim VR for the first time. Never would've guessed this was already possible. Skyrim modders are built different.
Absolutely, I really do think it will be the future of gaming and NPC interactions. In VR its incredible. I'm currently working with a developer who is designing this same mod for Fallout 4. So subscribe and stay tuned, he is getting close to release. I will be making his official tutorial video.
Did you end up having any issues? I followed this tutorial to the letter and keep getting errors. The game loads and everything and I even reinstalled the mod and everything but keep getting “ NPC not added.” Error
I have to say you put a lot of work into your videos.. How you explain everything step by step clearly and detailed and even down to how you format and provide links. Well done!
Thank you for the kind words! I really think VR has so much potential and we need more content out there to show the larger developers that! Thanks again 😊
Just a quick FYI for folks - one thing that wasn't covered in this tutorial - as one of the last steps, before running Mantella - you need to crack open that directory that contains the Mantella executable and open Mantella's config.ini: in that file, make sure the directories to your Skyrim Game folder, xVA synth location, etc. are properly set to the right directories. The default settings are placeholders that are not correct, but they have comments above the setting that will tell you what to do. Additionally, this mod might not work properly if you installed SkyrimSE/VR on your primary OS (C:\) drive via Steam - you want to install Skyrim Special Edition or Skyrim VR on an alternate drive, in a dedicated steam library folder. This config.ini file is also where you can set LLM token limits (for better NPC memory), LLM choice (GPT-4, GPT-3.5, local LLM models), LLM prompts for different NPC interactions, and so on. It's all pretty well documented in the file, so it's worth looking through the whole thing so you can tweak it to your liking.
Thanks for the comment, I realised I missed the config directories once published 🙄 so I put it in the description.
I also didn't want this video to go on for 30 minutes so I didn't go into LLMs in this video but made a separate one. Can't remember but I think I mention an upcoming language model video In this one.
👊 comment always appreciated
The extra hoops to get AI npc mods working is the only thing holding back wide adoption. Once someone packages all the settings, API stuff, file configurations, voice packs, into an autoinstaller this is going to take off like crazy.
is there anyway you could explain how to do that, I'm having this problem and I don't really know what it means to "set to a directory" sorry (I'm not good at this stuff)
Are you free to go on discord? I'll walk you through it quickly
Hello can you please walk me through how to do this as well. I joined your discord.
Thank you so much for this. I spent Sunday installing and setting up etc and it's working great. I could never have done this without your step by step guide!! I've not played Skyrim since launch many years ago, but this pulled me back and is great in a Pimax Crystal. Just need to find a way to get this running with 'Mad God's Overhaul' if that's even possible, and I'm set for the year 😃. Thanks again, really appreciate it! Subbed!
I'm really happy I could help you! Check out my video on changing tbr language models 😊 you can tweak Mantella's LLM to an improved language! Have fun! 🫶
Amazing tutorial, well structured video, nice segments too! Thanks a lot this is gonna help a lot appreciate it ❤️
Thank you for the kind words!
@@DeadPixelGaming No problem bro I subbed too!
Thanks! I do a lot of VR and VR modding / game modding in general stuff. Subs always appreciated ❤️
Mai’q is a Khajiit, not a big kitty cat!!! 😂
Naaaah he's a big kitty cat hahaha. If you go into MCM and allow aggro the NPCs attack you if you annoy them too much. Kajits don't like being called kitty cats 🤣
insane. next step: the people of skyrim talk to each other and build relationships and memories.
They do already. Each LLM has what called a token count. The more expensive the LLM the higher the token count. The higher the token count the more each NPC can remember.
I annoyed the blacksmith and he remembered it and didn't like me because of it when I spoke to him next time after a bit of questing.
You can literally walk up to an NPC after a while of gaming and ask them if they remember your last conversation, name, details you may have told them. It's all stored in the LLM and stays there for each play.
It's pretty baffling.
@@DeadPixelGaming very interesting. I´ve been playing Skyrim for thousands of hours and I will read into how to install this. Is VR mandatory or does it work with the "normal" version?
Thank you so much for this! Followed all the steps and I finally have mantella working in skyrim!
Glad you're up and running man! Enjoy!
Amazing tutorial thank you!!!
For any modding noobs out there just carefully read the mantella console messages when they do fail. Oftentimes they provide a link or tell you exactly what the issue is. For me, it came down to file paths. It was adding a subfolder to the paths that didn't exist. Double check all your paths in config.ini to point to the right file locations, and make sure you scroll down a bit to select your language model.
That part got me stuck for a bit 😅
You're welcome! 😊 I made this guide before I met the devs. So I had no guidance. I made the Fallout 4 guide with guidance from the devs so it's a bit more clear. This guide was also made before the config change after the Fo4 implementation so it will look slightly different. But I've left my Discord and the Mantella discord for any further support. Glad you're up and running! Enjoy 😁
@@DeadPixelGaming super impressive that the tutorial you made with no guidance got me 99% setup which is amazing hahaha I would've long given up without this video
cheers 🍻
You're very welcome man! Hey if you have a 4080/4090 have a think about trying a local xTTS model. It sounds so much more realistic and less robotic. Haurus made a good tutorial on it.
@@DeadPixelGaming I do actually have a 4080 so I'll check that out! Appreciate the advice!
@brandongratta9040 welcome man 😁
you explained it so well bud makes me want to get hte game
Thanks man ❤️ get it, it's super fun!
@@DeadPixelGaming ill ask my mom is she would let me buy it wish me luck lol
@@StaticFreighter123 Good luck! :D
Cheers! Have a beer 🍺
My guy!! Thanks for the super! 🫶 I really appreciate it!
Hi, i am braziliam sorry for bad english, but i have a question, i am not vr user, what the main mod to speak to npc using mic? i use text input but is not immersive at all
Just an FYI, the default voice model - Toppy - is free on open AI. It's mentioned in the description. :)
👌👊 free on Openrouter. Open.AI is GPT API. I get a lot of complaints saying "you should have mentioned it wasn't free"... bah 😅 thanks for the comment man
@@DeadPixelGaming i got the key on openrouter but mantella says its invalid and the NPCS dont respond when i talk what do i do?
Thank you for the help. I have been strugglin all day x.x
Really happy I could be of help! jump on my discord if you have any questions. Today im posting a video on changing the LM's and config setup.
30p a DAY to play SkyrimVR with Mantella through OpenAI?
If it was a one off payment to use it indefinately? I'd be cool with that.
But subscription service? Gutted!
I almost had the mods all completely installed, spent a few free nights to download all the voice files and set it up.
Gutted! 😮💨
Read the description. It's free now.
new gpt4o abilities would be crazy in skyrim
We already have something in the pipeline for Fo4 (can't say anything!) But watch this space!
@@DeadPixelGaming wow exciting, faster response time, being able talk over npcs, sarcastic sinister human like emotions in voice would be awesome
If you watch my reporter video for Fo4 and compare it to my skyrim videos you'll notice the Fo4 videos are more realistic and that's because I use a local model with xTTS to synthesise the voice and its insanely real / sweary / emotional! As for what Mantella is currently cooking up it's currently a secret but it'll blow your mind... its blown mine
@@DeadPixelGaming wait, so if i switch to xtts now, would it be better?
I've not tried it for Skryim but yes it's a lot better. You do however need a 4080S or a 4090. It uses a huge amount of resources.
Alternatively you can use runpod.io. xTTS also runs directly through the mantella launcher so once you start mantella it launches xTTS.
It's good stuff. The difference in voice from xva to xTTS in Fo4 is night and day... it just can't do cotswold or robots well (ironically)
Can't wait for GTA with this.
I doubt Rockstar will allow it. We had full VR with Praydogs mod but Rockstar gave him a cease and desist. I was one of the lucky few who got to play it. When I put footage up people thought it was a hoax lol.
Aww that sucks .And why will only make people still wanna play It, Yes I know It's Not You i shall Ask :).@@DeadPixelGaming
hello brother, thank you for the guide. But, im having an issue where it says " NPC not added, please wait again after your next respond"
Im using skyrim special edition but updated to AE. thought i followed the guide correctly im assuming and downloaded files for AE. not sure if everything is right or im missing something
Hi there, have you managed to have a conversation yet? If so always make sure to end conversation before walking away.
When you have this error after a conversation just minimise your game and restart mantella.
I keep SKSEVR and mantella on my hot bar to make this easier.
I think my last comment bugged out or something, good video, thanks for the help, I ended up joining their discord and have been asking (interrogating) one of the devs and it seems like they are in the process of swapping the communication language (nerd stuff) removing the need to move the game out of the (x86) folder, once they do that I will be making a few videos on this mod on my channel, in the future, so thanks again and here's to the future of AI in video games 👍
Annoyingly youtube likes to delete comments thinking they are malicious when they are not.
Truth be told I've always installed in x86 and never had any issues.
I'm glad I could at least get you most of the way 😊
@@DeadPixelGaming so it does work without moving the game outside of the x86?
I mentioned it in the video, it's recomended to create a directory outside of x86 for the game folder and mods as Windows doesn't like changing files in x86.
That being said I've always installed my games and thr mod in x86 and never had problems... (I think I mention it in my Fo4 Mantella video).
@@DeadPixelGaming ah okay i will try that now, i've been looking for the torrent link for the xvasynth but I think i am missing it something I checked their discord but only found the packs for the extra mods but not the vanilla voices
@Vlask it's in a sub menu under XVASynth in github. It's hidden away. If you see my Fo4 video you'll see where the Fo4 one is. I presume it will be the same for th Skyrim github. This is a working development so a lot has changed in the short time since I've made this video.
ok guys if you don't want to doube your space this mod will take delete the archives after extracting them. example would be right before 14:12 he extracted them all and kept the archives. the archives are just compressed versions and still contain all the data. that folder now is almost 38gb instead of 18gb.
Why would anyone need to be told to delete the compressed VM's? Once extracted and used the compressed VM's are obviously to be deleted. If someone following this tutorial didn't know that I doubt they'd be able to successfully carry it out this tutorial especially considering the changes made to Mantella since I've made this guide.
@DeadPixelGaming for the most part, the tutorial is done well enough, I'd say a complete novice could easily follow along, and successfully have no issues. Reminiscent of gamer poets in the early days. I guess I had mistaken this as a beginner tutorial and felt the comment was nessisary as such. Don't forget people of all skill levels will watch this. Some just getting into modding, and think it's all magic.
@Knobs4u you're right. Lots of different skill levels and very easy to forget people newer to the modding scene don't know these things.
I appreciate the comment, I'd made this tutorial before I had contact with the Mantella devs. The Fo4 one was with support. Soon they'll drop an update which will change a lot and make the install process much easier. 😊
@@DeadPixelGaming and we all appreciate the tutorials. Thank you
Todd Howard delayed TES 6 for this moment
Im glad, they have the money they don't need to rush it... Best to release a complete game then an early game.
Thanks !! For me I installed for Skyrim Special Edition, it's fine, but you don't show in your video the config.ini file to edit before starting mantella, where you have to indicate what ai model you select, what location VAXSynth etc...
I really don’t understand how the AI know how to role play as each NPC so well
Did the mod authors write scripts for the AI to understand the lore or is chatgpt is really that advanced
It’s crazy
I really can’t wait to try this myself
Imagine talking to NPCs and end up making your own unmarked quest
I thinks it's a bit of both really, I think mantella gives each character a short brief on who they are and GPT chat bots do the rest. It'd wizardry if you ask me...
I've come across a few bugs, you know the roaming hunter's, male and female. Well mantella can't differentiate between them as they are both always called hunter. So the female has a male voice.
The funniest bug I had was trying to talk to a noble on a horse. Eventually the noble freaked and and ran away and I realised it was actually the horse I was talking to... he told me a long story about how he was a magical horse born with the abilities to talk to humans and that he was glad the gods had blessed him with it 🤣🤣😂 truly I haven't done anything in the games quest line. All I do is mess with players with mantella hahaha
There's a skyrim_characters spreadsheet with thousands of npc entries. Each entry includes a bio for the LLM (AI) to use as a reference for how to properly roleplay that npc. Originally, these bios were all copy/pasted from the TES wiki. Over the past months I have been editing/overhauling these bios, adding in info that npc should know, and removing spoilery info, discussion of game mechanics and bugs, etc. Myself and others have also added entries for about a thousand different npcs from mods.
Do you tried with novulus mod list? Is possible to work with that? Greez nice video.
I've not tried that no, thank you for the kind words. It's a long process and I wanted to make sure it was as clear as possible so as many people could enjoy it.
Can I write to talk to NPCs? Or is it strictly necessary to use the microphone? I say this because my microphone is damaged haha
Hey, yes there is a text option too. Check the github. 👍
This is great,❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 i have been searching a lot on how to install,, this is the only video that i found🤣🤣 thanks bro,, but i have a question. Is the voice chat have restrictions like nsfw and stuff?
Hey, make sure to read the description when installing there's a few extra steps.
For the NSFW stuff you have to change the langauge model, it's a guide I plan on making soon. There are hundreds of LLMs but I'm yet to find a NSFW one that isn't janky.
AI at the moment is being censored closely because of its capabilities.
If you get stuck on the guide jump on my Discord I'll try give you a hand
I did not find it difficult to get uncensored OpenRouter models working for me :D
What model did you use? I've been trying and failing 🤣😂
@@DeadPixelGaming have you done any editing of the prompt towards the end of config.ini?
No I haven't to be honest, I've got a good model. Which script lines allow NSFW?
Thanks !!! Took me a whole day, it is reeeeeally worth tho
Hi, I followed all steps but I still get the error message “NPC not added” when trying to start a conversation
I’m on normal SE version not VR.
Checked Mantella, and it says the path set in config.ini does not exist
Followed every step to the T. not working at all. It detects my voice, but i never get a response.
Incredible guide! Which languages are supported at the moment?
Hi thank you, im glad you liked the guide. A few things have changed, as mentioned in the description its now free with the current LLM and API. It supports about 12 languages off the top of my head, you can change the langauge in the config.ini. Please remember that if you choose to do so, dont do the CMUdict part of the tutorial as thats only for english. Glad it helped! dont forget to sub!
@@DeadPixelGaming thank you very much!
Ive spent 6 hours on my free day and cannot get this thing to work... i followed the instructions to the letter and when i attempt to speak to a npc it always says " npc not added". There are not q&a ANYWHERE online that could possibly have a fix to this and im stuck figuring it out all alone. Can someone for the love of Talos please HELP ME!
Talos be with you. When you run XVA do you see the list of all the voice packs? Do you also keep XVA running in the background while in game? This is a common issue I've seen before have you asked the mantella discord?
I plan on working with the devs to make a new tutorial as the mod had changed a bit.
@@DeadPixelGaming honestly I want to try a fresh install but it took me 3 days straight to get all my mods working for Skyrim VR. I do keep VA opened in the back, then I open my game and wait for it to load then I open up mantella. I noticed that the mantella exe file is displaying the npcs voice lines but it doesn’t transfer to the game and then I get the “ npc not added” error message afterwards. I am in the middle of trying to get help in discord
I've got to head to work now mate could you ask in the mantella discord? If you're running a bunch of other mods that can cause issues.
I have a quick question. After getting the mod up and running, once I get into a game it says “NPC not added. Please try again after your next response.” When I try to talk to them. What exactly is it prompting me to do?
I have all voice models loaded into VAsynth, so I don’t get why it gives me this notification.
Hi, sorry for the late response. This has been a regular issue. I'm looking at potentially making a troubleshooting video which will cover all the common bugs. Until then try in the Mantella discord
You did the API thing with the $5-10?
i think ill wait to see your next tutorial on how to do this, im already having issues and im not even 1/3 through the tutorial. Im also not using the VR version even though I have it
The vr version with other mods is the best way to experience it.
I'll have a new tutorial out I'm just waiting the new version which the devs are working on. After they've implemented HTTP it should be a much easier install.
Either way, people are still able to use this mod to get Mantella installed on Skyrim I'm getting a lot of comments. Check out my Fo4 mantella video where I go through the new config
Followed your instructions to the T, twice now. No matter what I do I get "skyui error code 1 the skyrim script extender (sksevr) is not running.
Danke dir. jemand der es anständig erklären tut.
werde ich mir morgen noch mal ansehen und es schritt für schritt tun. Grüße aus Deutschland.
Thank you. someone who can explain it properly.
I'll look at it again tomorrow and do it step by step. greetings from Germany
wish you a nice time
I'm glad it was helpful!! Sorry for the late response 😅 I get a lot of comments
@@DeadPixelGaming That doesn't matter. It's all ok
I’m using OpenAI for my model, I realise it’s costing a lot more than expected using the GPT 4 turbo, is there another AI platform that we can use that is free? It’s working out as like a dollar every hour or so
Eh I figured a lot of it out, but i'm running into an issue with the LLM. {"error":{"message":"Missing Authentication header or invalid API key","code":401}} I paid for it, added the key double checked but it's not using it. Does openAI not work anymore?
Please check the description of the video, since making this video the standard API has been changed to openrouter toppyaifree LLM. As you've already topped up an openai account you may as well change the langauge model to the openai LLM. The default API is in the config.ini under language model.
@@DeadPixelGaming I found it after some searchin, I saw on the mantella nexus update, he changed the default LLM and I found it through that. I have everything working now except the MCM, all I have is skyUI, but I'll figure that piece out. I must have used an outdated/to recent release of something. So everything works, except npcs following and stuff, but worst case I can live with that. Thanks Man!
got to the part to make a shortcut of the loader to the desktop, but in the game folder it does not show any file labeled loader at all? Really want this mod to work. please, any help would be greatly appreciated.
I actually got it to work, thanks dude! Please let me know if there is a way to remove the no npc added error Even tho it works half the time. I'm doing it all via virtual desktop btw
Hey! Glad you got it working. Make sure to always end conversations or else you'll get this issue. Sometimes it happens too if you miss with the spell.
Just use end conversation and spam start with a different npc and it'll sort it.
Every time I try to interact with an NPC it says: "NPC not added. Please try again after your next response" in the top left corner. Does anyone know how to fix this?
Please ask on the Mantella forums.
I'm having trouble with XVASynth. I installed all the 80+ voice models into the folder where you showed, but the XVASynth is saying it can't find them. Run into anything like that before?
Did you extract the voice files directly into the Skyrim folder you made or did you just extract the download files directly into the skyrim folder? You need to copy the voice files to the Skyrim folder. If this isn't the issue if you watch my video I show how to direct XVASynth to the correct folder.
@@DeadPixelGaming I did miss a step. However, I think downloading them all through XVASynth (I have a nexus subscription) was far easier than pulling all those files out of each folder individually 80+ times. Still, thank you so much for the reply!
Hey no problem, here to help! I pinned a comment saying it's better to do the single download instead of all individually. I was learning as I was going too to be honest its a lengthy process! Hope you have fun with it!
FINALLY WE DONT HAVE TO PAY
Woohooo! Someone who reads the description! It's only 5000 characters!! I get so many comments of people complaining about paying that I have to reply to saying ts free...
@@DeadPixelGaming yeah lol, once I get my mods working for SkyrimVR I’ll definitely be installing this mod 👍
Hello! I was wondering what load order you have for the mods? Couple of my mods are not working due to the order that they are in
Hi there, If you follow the tutorial in order it will work.
@@DeadPixelGaming I was finally able to get it to work, had to configure a bunch of settings with help from the discord channel you provided.
Glad you're up and running. 👍
Little question: I have everthing set up, but when i use the spell, the software just says, "Waiting for player to select an NPC". Absolutely nothing is happening. (I try to talk to a guard.)
Besides it is a great guide!
Hey, have you tried other NPCs?
I dont know what I'm doing wrong, I follow every step to the t and still it doesn't work
Is there a tutorial for a non VR version installation of this? Because I've followed this tutorial twice and resulted in the same problem with a DLL file and Address Library.
Hi there, yes it is possible in non vr. Firstly your unofficial patches need to be the latest ones (in the video for VR it has to be a specific older one) also you need to select the non-vr versions. If you are using SE or AE you need to select the correct Papyrus and library mods.
Could you give me a comprehensive rundown on how to use the openrouter method instead of the paid OpenAI method?
This tutorial is out dated I'm waiting for the new update which will change everything before I make another tutorial
It now comes loaded with an openrouter LLM so just use openrouter for the key.
Read the config.ini it literally tells you what to enter.
all this time i spend trying to download this mod only to find out i have to pay genuinely hurts man
Yea that's quite annoying. Not the putting $10 part. But paying for something that should be free or at least a one time payment.
can you make a video for how to download this if you are NOT using VR? I got really confused on what is for VR and what I should download
Hey, I'm actually going to be making the latest guides on their new release which will completely change how this is installed (it will be much easier). I'm waiting on their release, I've been told it won't be too much longer.
@@DeadPixelGaming Thank you so much! I will be waiting.
@icyace_1295 no problem man, I'm waiting too 🤣🤣
When I try to talk to M'aiq the Liar using the Mantella Spell I get a text on the top left screen that says: "NPC not added. Please try again after your next response"
What does it mean?
i may need your help with this one, keeps telling me there was an error with my Papyrusutil installation everytime time i try to do the start conversation montella spell or anytime i try speaking to them in general
Very strange, have you asked in thr Mantella discord? They're a lot more clued up than me!
When attempting to use the spell it reads: NPC not added. Please try again after next response.
Any idea what may be wrong?
Have you managed to make any conversations at all? If so remember to use the end convo spell or this can pop up.
Are you also sure you've started SKSEVR through the shortcut that's been set to run as admin?
@@DeadPixelGaming I haven't been able to make conversation at all. It gives me that same error with every NPC. I have tried end convo as well. I'm using MO2 and have been starting the game via skse, but am not using VR.
@@DeadPixelGaming I found something that is probably contributing to the problem. When I open the Mantella shortcut it reads: "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition" does not exist!
The path set in config.ini: "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition"
Press any key to exit...
Please read the video description, you need to set the paths for your game, xva and mods folder in the config.ini
Also, I can't guarantee the process will work if you're using a different mod manager and not following the process directly I.e opening via the SKSEVR/SKSE launcher. These are things I have not tested.
unfortunately i keep getting this error in mantella when npc is trying to respond to me: Error 401: Unauthorized. ERROR: Invalid API key. If you are trying to connect to OpenAI, please choose an OpenAI model via the 'model' setting in MantellaSoftware/config.ini. If you are instead trying to connect to a local model, please ensure the service is running"
I've done everything, everything is in the correct path, I set a language model, I set api key with credit, i dont know what to do.
What this line is referring to is the API in config.ini. The config.ini is now set to openrouter as default not openai. So you need to change the API in the language models section. When I first made this guide the API was set to openai.
Although with that being said I believe that mantella now detects which API is being used and automatically adjusts... hmm have a look in your config under language model.
@@DeadPixelGaming Thank you, I tried different models between openai and openroute it worked.
now that it works (extremely slow), it stops working after like 2 chats. Extremely buggy and clunky, is it the same case for you and everyone ?
@GaminCityy it's down to which model you use. Toppyaifree is a free one and actually not that bad. You have to know that many of these models are not made for game AI but for classes or other applications. There are set recommended LLMs which work well and some which are terrible!!
Regarding the delay, there always will be one. You're asking software a question, it's changing it into text based on what it thinks it's heard, its then sending that text as a request to an AI on a server, the server then deals with the request and sends the answer back and then once its back XVA converts it into a voice response. All things considered it's pretty fast.
When i open Mantella in the last step, appears this
"Mantella currently running for SkyrimVR (C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\SkyrimVR). Mantella mod located in C:\Modding\MO2\SkyrimVR\mods\Mantella
12:51:28.038 ERROR: "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\SkyrimVR" does not exist!
The path set in config.ini: "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\SkyrimVR"
Press any key to exit..."
How can i resolve it?
Probably make sure that your mod path for skyrimvr is linked correctly to your mod folder. If you’re using vortex it should be the data folder.
wait so do we need the vr version of papyrus extender even if we're not playing vr?
No, Po3 should work fine. Although it's been a long time since I've done this! Some things are due to change, including a big change in the install process
i launch mantella and get a "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\SkyrimVR" does not exist!" and i dont know how to change the path
Open the config.ini. there are 3 paths required. 1: where the game is, 2: where the mods folder is and 3: where xva is.
Check my latest video, Fallout 4 VR Mantella. Its there.
that worked for the skyrim folder but now in red its saying "13:19:32.004 ERROR: "C:\mod\Sound\Voice\Mantella.esp" does not exist!" ive tryed everything and i watched your fall out vid talking abt it but i changed it in the .ini and it keeps saying that@@DeadPixelGaming
You just need to set the 3rd path to where your xva exe is. I can give you 1 to 1 guidance on my Discord but not this moment I'm afraid. Maybe if you have time tomorrow? It appears to me that your paths are incorrect.
Hang on... you haven't installed Mantella Spell. Or else you would have the esp
Did you set the second path as your mods folder. Select it through vortex > open > mods folder (on the orange bar)
Followed everything correctly, I assume. But I'm having an issue with Mantella, the EXE closes on its own after starting up and "waiting for player to select NPC" and when I go to start it back up it's deleted from my PC...
Looks like it may be antivirus putting it into quarantine but nothing shows up in windows firewall or BitDefender. Flabbergasted.
That's very odd windows defender has never given me any issues. If it's your virus defence you'll need to set an exception in your virus defence app. You can set a folder which your anti virus software leaves alone.
@@DeadPixelGaming Thanks. I was able to figure it out. While I had everything else running I kept missing the bitdefender notification. I solved it by running mantella without anything else running until bitdefender attempted quarantine and then stopped that process. Hasn't happened again. Cheers!
Good man! Glad you're up and running have fun 😁
Hey. thanks for this. it is appreciated. but a couple things. You move very fast - it was humbling as hell for a newbie like me. Second, i'm stuck at the mantella file...my nord vpn was cool downloading everything else prior. But there's apparently an exe file on there that doesn't that's scanned as malware. Is it just for redundancies to GPT? Why would there be malware?
Hey, apologies if I was fast but I didn't want people to see 30 minutes and think sod that!
I can assure you there's no malware, your VPN might not like working with GPT as its server based? Be sure to read the description there are a few extra steps I missed.
If you get stuck jump on my Discord and I'll help as best as I can. I'm working with the Mantella devs on a tutorial for Fallout4 😊
@@DeadPixelGaming Alright i bit the bullet and downloaded it but the mantella spell has 9 different files i gotta download. do those all get dragged and dropped into vortex? do i drag and drop the entire mantella software into vortex, or just the gpt secret key? it kinda wasnt clear
What? The secret key stays in the mantella folder. The key is gained from the open.ai website. All mods should be downloaded via the "vortex download" button which as I said at the beginning of the video is how most of the files will be downloaded.
The mantella spell gets dropped into vortex or installed directly from nexus using the vortex install feature.
The mantella software is kept separately. It has nothing to do with vortex and is where you will run mantella in the background from when skyrim is open
@@DeadPixelGaming I know this is probably a loaded ask but is there any way I can pay you for a facetime call or skype call to help me? You can charge by the damn minute. I downloaded all the voice models on XVA synth and I'm trying to do the step where I put them in the skyrim folder and extract them, but I'm on windows 11 and it's not doing the same thing as yours/not allowing me to highlightt all files and extract. please. lol. I've devoted so much time to trying to do this that I got most of the way through and am about to give up. I need like 15 minutes of your time and you can name your price lmfao
I’m trying to set up my config.ini path locations. I am trying to find the folder that contains xtts-api-server-mantella.exe.
I’m pretty sure that was never mentioned in the video. Do they mean the mantella.exe in the Mantella software folder??
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I’m totally lost now.
Don't touch xtts, it's a local synthesiser alternative to XVA. Can you go on my Discord I can show you the paths required in your config.
@@DeadPixelGaming hey thanks for the quick reply! I think the other paths are correct, but I haven’t tested yet so I can get back to you on discord if I need help. Thanks again!
What about the CK64 files? U never used them..
Did you end up using them at all?
You don't need them, hence why I didn't use them.
You just need facewrapper from that page, the download which is below the CK64 file. It helps LipnFuz to shape conversation animations.
Can I run it?
I got 2* 4090 rog strix, 14900ks, 2tb eec ram at 6400mhz on gen 5 nvme
Jokes aside, can you configure it with use to llm studio locally instead of open ai?
Just 2x4090s? Peasant spec! Yes you can run it locally using xTTS. You will need a 4080+ for reasonable performance. I ran it locally using xTTS and a 4080S and still preferred to pay runpod to hire a GPU to get extra performance.
I'm good until right at the end and when I go to open everything up I get an error from mantella saying "Mantella currently running for SkyrimVR (C;\games\steam\steamapps\common\skyrimVR) . Mantella mod located in C:\modding\M02\skyrimVR\mods\mantella
15:01:07.075 ERROR: "C:\games\steam\steamapps\common\SkyrimVR" does not exist!
the path set in config.int: "C:\Games\Steam|steamapps\common\SkyrimVR"
anybody willing to help? Im not very tech savvy and I spent about two days working through this to get this error at the end :(
Hi there. Please look at the video description you need to set 3 paths in the config.ini. if you struggle go on my Discord and I'll guide you in a moment if you're free
You can use local models too. I been experimenting with llama3 and other uncensored models in Minecraft.
Its not leting me do it 😢 it says the plugin needs an update
im confused on the set path on mantella, im using regular skyrim as my default set path in the mantella config but its still giving me an error that it cant find my skyrim wtf
So what if you choose the non vr file but get a VR in the future. How do I choose the Vr file after I already chose the non vr file
You're playing two separate games. Skyrim VR is not Skyrim. You would follow the guide as normal but with a second mantella install (same xva install). Your config would point to the vr game and the current xva.
@@DeadPixelGaming ok. In the future in October I’m getting my gaming laptop so I’ll def be back soon and update you. Thx for this info bro
I don't have VR and I want to install this. Which version of Skyrim do I purchase?
I would suggest anniversary as it's got everything however SE would work too. Just be sure to use SE on Nexus and Voetez and be sure to use the non-vr versions of the apps. For example. SKSE (for your version) library mod not library VR. All your Papyrus mods too.
I only got the PapyrusUtil AE SE - Scripting Utility Functions. is that okay? i didn't get the other 2 because it had the word VR in it.
@@DeadPixelGaming
50 cents just for a npc to talk to me, thats a mental Illness, its so fucking expensive
You're kidding right? I use noromaidneversleep which is one of the most expensive LLMs and in hours of playing I don't get near to 50c... it comes loaded with a free LLM from openrouter. You can literally do this for free.
11:16 I found that he installed the Skyrim VR USSEP Compatibility Patch incorrectly. You need to extract it to somewhere and run the .exe to create the patched DLC files (It will be in a zip file). then install the zip file into your own mod manager.
(Though, Thanks for the guide - helps me a lot in other steps.)
It worked fine for me, but I've been working with the Mantella devs for a bit and it appears some of these steps aren't necessary. Like updating xVA to 3.02. I'm releasing the guide for Fo4 mantella on Saturday! It's awesome! Stay tuned. I hope to release a demonstration video this afternoon.
@@DeadPixelGaming Oh hell yeah. I also just found out the other day that there's the version for FO4 as well. My buddy also likes FO4 and is amazed by this mod capability. Thanks for your hard work.
About the mod worked fine, yes the mod installed that way won't do anything. So it won't break the game, but also not patch anything.
If installed correctly, this patch mod will replace all 6 esm files:
Skyrim.esm, Update.esm, Dawnguard.esm, HearthFires.esm, Dragonborn.esm, and SkyrimVR.esm
467 MB in size.
Thanks for the kind comments. I was working last night with the main dev of the mod and hope to get a first draft to him tonight. Aim is to post it on Saturday 😁. We have to fight for VR and prove to the big dev companies that VR is worth investing in!!
@@DeadPixelGaming Hehe, that's the spirit. I love the idea of beating the bi(u)g companies.
I respect Mantella's dev so much.
And you are ... breathtaking!
Thanks my friend! First draft is being sent to the devs! Watch this spot soon the guide will be out 😁
Hey everyone . Can anyone tell me if the process for this mod is the same for the mad God overhaul?
I know it's included in the mod itself. What I'm asking is. If one wishes to use this mod. (Keep in mind skyim vr is already launching through mod organizer)
Does this mean I still have to go the vortex route and install all those other "redundant" mods again but via vortex?
Or is it possible to do it all via mod organizer and then just do the additional software and voice download steps.
Again via mod organizer?
Is this a possibility? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
You had me all the way up until you said I had to pay money... you don't understand just how much time I spent trying to set this up...
It's free. The config comes preloaded with an openrouter free LLM called toppyfreeai. Just make your secret key on openrouter not openai.
No one reads video descriptions these days.
When I run matella i get an error
18:03:02.039 ERROR: "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\SkyrimVR" does not exist!
The path set in config.ini: "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\SkyrimVR"
Avast is saying the mantella.exe has a virus... keeps interrupting the download
Mantella is similar to UEVR in that it changes files whilst they are in use. Some anti-virus suites see that as a threat. You'd need to set an exemption for Mantella.
No entiendo por qué pides que se desinstale el juego si luego todos los procedimientos que tienes que hacer (añadiendo el juego a Vortex, luego los mods y demás) necesitan del juego instalado. Favor aclare ese punto
No es una parte necesaria del proceso. Pero siempre lo recomiendo porque el 50% de las personas que tienen problemas para instalar mods les sobran mods/mods a medio instalar y demás basura que causa problemas. Con una instalación nueva y limpia puedo estar seguro de que funcionará. (pero todavía la gente no escucha y todavía tiene problemas). Espero haber respondido a su pregunta.
@@DeadPixelGaming Es solo que algunos lo querrán más detallado, en el sentido de que, en vez de decir que se debe "desinstalar" el juego es mejor decir se debe "reinstalar"
Can I use mod manager instead of vortex?
Oooof that's a good question. Well I've never tried it with Mo2. Feel free to and let me know the results.
having an issue with mine for non vr where the loader shortcut says it cannot find skyrimse.exe
Reinstall skse and make sure its in the folder where your skyrim exe is. Make sure its the right skse.
thank you however im now having an issue in game where it says "NPC not added. Please try again after your next response". i have all the neccesary mods installed as i needed the anniversary edition mods because of my version number. bit stuck feel like im so near yet so far
is it something to do with config file as im not sure what to do with that as didnt see it being edited in the video
Please check with the mantella discord they should be able to help you. NPC not found could be a host of issues.
Does this work only with VR version or PC version is viable too ?
Both VR and flatscreen.
a heads up that u need to pay at the end he will explain why, so if u are a kid, broke and dont have a credit card dont waise ur time
u need to have a creditcard
Thanks for the comment. Not sure why people think AI API resources would be given away for free. 🤷
@@DeadPixelGaming maybe people just don’t know how it workes. And thank you for the great tutorial
I'm working with the devs currently on the Mantella mod release for Fallout 4. Stay tuned 😊🫶
Oh they have the balls to charge us pennies to train their AI bots how scandalous
Well, that's one way of looking at it? Another way of looking at it is that it now comes without Open.ai but comes with a free LLM from Openrouter. So it's now free.
so uh... whats going on with the ussep patches?? any mod I download after that "requires four masters" Am I the only person in the world looking for that fix? (Also I'm kinda new to modding but I've successfully downloaded over 200 mods without issue.
Can't say I've come across this issue, are you sure they aren't all the prerequisites you needed already such as SKSEVR etc? If not check in the Mantella discord they are brilliant
@@DeadPixelGaming I figured it out. Honestly it was confusing, and easy at the same time. People need to make a tutorial on this or something. God maybe I should lol. I'm new to modding. But yeah, you provided the wrong link for the Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch and installed the VR one incorrectly. I don't even know how you managed to get it working yourself. I still used your video and gave you a like though.
@unnateural I made this tutorial when it was in its infancy without support from the devs. I had to research everything. A lot has changed since I made this guide, the config.ini especially.
I'm not in any rush to make an updated version of this tutorial because it pretty much gets you there, and it was a long ass project.
If you see my Fo4 guide its a lot more coherent and that's because I had the opportunity to work directly with the developer of the mod.
Either way, thank you for the comment.
@@DeadPixelGaming Actually I just screwed up modding hardcore and had to start flat over. Tried installing it the same way and LOOT says it's not compatible. Is that normal? Still on USSEP problems. Man I manually downloaded all 85 files last night, don't wanna lose that haha
@unnateural jump on the mantella discord which I linked and ask for help. Alternatively I will be making an xTTS voice synthesised tutorial. It's much much better, just requires a 4080+ or to use runpod.io
Nice top. Where you get it?
all I get is a text saying "NPC is not added, try again after your first response"
never mind I seem to have missed the part where you said "you have to restart the game after using the spell"... oops...
Is it normal for the npc's to take a long time to listen or sometimes not even listen at all? I got it all working but the interactions feel so wonky and slow. Are you experiencing this too and is it just the way it is at this point in time?
You'll get used to casting the spell and timing your questions. Make sure to end all conversations or it can get buggy. And yes it takes a couple seconds, the better the language model the faster the response. I made a video on LLMs have a look on my channel and be sure to subscribe if it's helped!
Reality vs expectations. We all watch a Brainfrog video and want that, truth is just enjoy his videos because his editing makes this seem much smoother than it is. Not to mention his creativity. It's like expectations towards DnD after watching Matt Mercer DM a game.
@TrailerTrashThorne I know brainfrog, he's in my Discord and I in his. He uses xTTS to synthesise not XVA its far far superior but requires a 4080+ or runpod.io. He also uses a brilliant VM, one I used later in Fo4 videos.
And yes also not to mention the guys a genius with his ideas and editing
@@DeadPixelGaming Indeed bro. Seriously though, thank you man. These tutorials mean a lot. I'm just waiting for the mods to be a little bit more supported (I doubt that's the word lol just easier to install it seems like these require some extra tinkering) like I've been modding my games since 09, but this is too much for me. I just can't wait till I can make friends in Skyrim lol and hopefully you will show us how. Subbed man.
Thanks for the sub man, so you are in luck. I know the lead dev and they are currently working on a much easier install using HTTP. It'll cut the whole process way down and make it much easier. Still waiting on its release so watch this spot 👊
Is there anyway to use this method with Mod Organizer 2 other than Vortex?
Sure, I don't see why not. Ive not tried it. I did this in Vortex as its easier to use and explain for people new to modding.
dumb question but how would i do this with the LLM option?
Please check my channel I have a video on that.
Can you use this with a local AI so that i dont have to pay
So a lot has changed since this tutorial, I will be making a new one once they have their next update.
If you read the description you'll see it's now free, it uses Toppyaifree which is openrouter as standard.
You can also use a local model using xTTS the guide is on the github but it needs either an RTX4080s/4090 it takes a lot of resources.
An alternative to running your LLM locally is by using Runpod.io but you've got to pay for that.
Don't forget to subscribe, the new tutorial will be up as I said when their next major update comes.
@@DeadPixelGaming There are other models with more tokens but I wonder is Toppy the best one for this context?
No not in the slightest. Toppy is good because its free. I use noromaidneversleep. Its uncensored and tends to lean towards swearing. I know Brainfrog, he uses that model too.
@@DeadPixelGaming yes you can I got it working with llama 3, and lm studio
@@DeadPixelGaming Oh figures. Thanks for the recommendation. I'll use that perfect for Skyrimland
Is there a video like this that can set it up with the non VR skyrim version?
You can use the nonvr alternatives for the VR apps. Normal library app, normal Papyrus app. SKSE (either AE, SE or GOG) depending on your version
Make sure you use the most up to date unofficial skyrim patch. The older version is required for VR
@DeadPixelGaming Thank you for your fast reply. I'm using the steam Anniversary edition.
I'm just doing a fresh install now
Make sure SKSE is correct follow the rest of the steps. You can also download all audio files in one instead of one by one
@@DeadPixelGaming thanks for your help 🙏
Before I travel down this road does anyone know if I can use something like LLM Studio for this? Do I just need an API key or does it check if it's an OpenAI one?
You can use open.ai, openrouter, kobold. All sorts. Not sure about the one you mentioned however.
Hi bro, i think i got everything and just Mantella keeps getting errors XD
First i had to find skyrim then xVa and now i don't get it.
Keeps saying Mantella.esp doesn't exist?
PLEASE HELP
Hey, did you read the description and change the config.ini and put the right file locations for everything?
@@DeadPixelGaming Hi bro, thanks for fast reply. You're the best. I fixed it by finding it in MO2 plugins and navigating to the file.
Now everything works but when i cast Mantella it says ''This character doesn't exist'' something like that no matter who i talk to.
Waiting for next response or something like that? Make sure you always end conversations and some NPCs or guards don't work. Have you managed to get it to work with other characters?
@@DeadPixelGaming Sadly no, i would definitely catch on that. It says that this character doesn't exist so it's not possible to talk i think
EDIT: I installed it within a FUS modpack from wabbajack
@1998natan oh man I can't speak for any other modpacks / wabajack. I know they can cause conflictions. Do you have all your voice packs installed, did you see the full list? Sounds to me like it's the XVA side of things, did you install lip and fuz?
does it have to be on vr or can it just be on special ed?
can i use this mod without using openAI? i just dont want to pay money on it
Yes, infact since making this video it now comes open openrouter toppyaifree. A free openroutet LLM
any chance you can do this without the use of vr?
Hi, yes it can be done both in VR and flatscreen
lost me once i realized i'd pay money for every question. nope
To put this into context, as mentioned in the video (and the script follow up video) after a couple days of playing with mantella I used 70p. Roughly a dollar.
@@DeadPixelGamingi respect it. but i'll wait til the idea is stolen by big tech, and there's unlimited free dialogue. hopefully Bethseda is takin note on thee mods for future gaming ideas
@Mos_High you'll be waiting a very long time then. It's developers like Artfromthemachine, Praydog and Luke Ross who are keeping VR alive. Look at GTA5 VR... The only thing that brought me back to GTA5 was Luke Ross's mod and guess what "big tech" shut it down game him a cease and desist and put zero of their own time into the technology.
Also, if you think that big tech is going to give high end data computation like AI language models for cheaper than the current companies (OpenAI GPT and Open Router) I hate to say it but you'd be wrong.
I tried this for 1 week every single day but there are bunch of errors
1- Mantella cmd says can no find folder of game it is so funny because it is there
2- in game mods not getting activated I see still default scenes
3- I see spells in game but when I try to use it it says "make sure you downloaded correct one" I did I am sure 100%
I followed this video step by step and also I listened him carefully word to word sooo Goodluck guys I am failed
Have a look in the Mantella discord they may be able to help you
@@DeadPixelGaming Thank you I have tried it too but all these things getting just more complicated. I will wait more and if these things gets more easy to do I will get into action again. Thank you
Does anyone know if this is compatible with Oblivion??? If not is there anything similar? Thank you!
It's not I'm afraid, however you can use wingmanAI from shipbit. However it wouldn't make NPCs talk to you It's more like an AI you can talk to and give a purpose
Any alternative for OpenAI? I dont have a credit card as it is very uncommon in my country so I cant use OpenAI.
Hi, check my channel. I released a video this afternoon on how to change your language model. OpenRouter has free ones. Check the video outland comment / like 👍
@@DeadPixelGaming The free models arent "free", you still have to buy credits with a credit card or US-only payment options.
Really? The ones on OpenRouter? That's weird why are they listed as free.
In order to run a local model you would need a very high end PC with a GPU with at 16gb VRAM. I've heard of people with 4090's struggling
@@DeadPixelGaming 3070 here, guess i have to wait until capitalism does its magic
Can't you use PayPal?
Is there a non-vr version of this?
Yep. You choose your game version in the config.ini
This is complicated AF. Can we get a guide for NON-VR users?
The only difference between this process in VR and non-vr is that all the downloads with VR / SKSE, Papyrus, Library Address etc just needs the non-vr equivalents.
It's a complicated process but rewarding. I am waiting for the new update release before I make a new guide