Thanks Pete you're the best👌 Pretty wild filters! These filters mount vertical beside the head threads down. Changing the oil is super easy done from top, cool😎
@WhipCityWrencher Hey Pete, just came across this. It's much easier than it looks, usually 7-8 min. Thanks again for the teardown, I really enjoyed it😀
@@WhipCityWrencher Pete I believe the top valve (at the filter head) is an anti-drain valve for the oil outlet side. Makes sense where the filters are fitted on the top of the engine with filter head down. The valve on the other end is the usual bypass filter and the silicon gasket is the usual oil inlet side anti-drain valve. I wonder what the price difference is for the OEM v the MANN branded version?
Stating the obvious, these VW/Audi spin on applications, unique. The canister protruding threads odd looking for sure. Leave it to German engineering. Safe saying both made by Euro Mann (M&H), the VW to their specs. Elements same. Second valve, closest to outlet better known as an "anti-siphon valve". Designed to keep oil in the center tube and filter on engine shut down. Works independently from the dome bypass valve. It's most like a second anti-drainback valve, but using a mechanical spring. Ford's with Zetec engines also have anti-siphon valve. Agree, adbv silicone. Thanks for vid.
It’s my opinion that the Germans engineer things to be different but not necessarily better than American and Asian automotive engineers. Their reputation for over engineering has been well earned.
That is a funky filter, they look totally identical and I'd bet if you could pull that sticker, you might see the Mann printing underneath. There appears to be lok-tite red on those threads that go into the filter base. Not surprised they are well made, though, Mann always had a good reputation and I know alot of british Landy owners use Mann filters. Mann + Hummel also owns Wix and Purolator now. Definitely go with the cheaper option here. Nice job as always Pete.
These filters are for the 2.0T CBFA/CCTA, etc.. gas engines, during the time called out VW had at least four 2.0L engines in the US. MHO is, IIRC, the vendor code for Mann. The VW has red loc-tite on the threads because the adapter would often stay stuck on the oil filter base.
It is always interesting to me to decipher who actually makes the OEM filters for the car companies. In this case, the filters are almost identical. In other cases, like the Subaru 15208AA20A, there are telltale signs to show who actually made it (Sakura in that case).
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Great video. Both filters looks very good. I don't care for the threaded stud on the filter, I like the stud on the engine, reason why, I have just enough room to get my filter on and off. Other than that, I like them both. Keep them coming, I really enjoy them. Hey. Can you do a Rotax oil filter cartridge
If you take a look at where VW puts these filters, there is a ton of room. They sit pointed straight up on the top side of the engine. The stud press down on part of the oil pressure regulator, I have seen some lower quality filters break this or even just cause low oil pressure.
It's most likely Mann makes OEM Oil Filters for VW, AUDI, BMW and Mercedes. I heard rumours that in USA the OEM Oil filters known as Motorcraft, AcDelco and Mopar are made by FRAM just labelled differently and slightly different to the ones that are sold in shelfs in Autopart Stores. Don't know if this rumour is true ?
Hi Anish, I don't think that rumor is true. As far as I know, the Motorcraft and Mopar filters are Purolator-made and owned by Mann and Hummel. The Acdelco are Champ made and are owned by First Brands who also own Fram. I could be wrong though, as companies buy each other out and it really isn't publicized.
Oops ! I almost missed this video ! Just got done digging out of 50" of snow ! Is it possible the VW filter part that spins could accidently block the inlet holes ? 😮
Thanks, It was pretty easy, I mounted the pipe cutter in a vise. The threads on these filters stick out and get in the way of the cutting blade on a reg. oil filter cutter.
@@WhipCityWrencher Very interesting! I actually cut open this identical VW filter last week, using a hack saw, and it was surprisingly difficult. Then again, I haven't used a hacksaw in a decade, so maybe my technique was off. I'll have to look into getting a pipe cutter, although at first glance one which is wide enough for this filter appears to be pretty pricey ($100 or so). I was also very impressed at how neatly you managed to cut out the paper filter component. I tried using the hacksaw (hey, it was right there!), then with scissors, and ended up with quite a mess. What did you use to cut out the paper element? Thanks in advance! Also, I was quite surprised by the hidden data code that you displayed with UV light. I tried that on mine, and voila! Same hidden numbers. Is this a common thing that VW does on all their parts? Or is it just an oil filter thing? Also, any theories on *why* they would hide these numbers, rather than just printing them in ink that's visible in normal light? I've been working on cars and reading about car stuff for 20+ years, and your video is the first time I've ever seen hidden numbers revealed via UV light! Now I'm wondering how many other car parts might have that sort of "invisible ink"...?
@@tedjohnson64 I was lucky with the pipe cutter I have. I picked it up a while back at a yard sale. The date code is a German thing, why do they do it? Because they can. 😊LOL, But seriously I think some other European countries also have hidden date codes. Anytime I see no date code on a foreign oil filter I check it with the UV light. I use a hacksaw to cut the media and also wire-backed media. Here's a video I made on how I do it. Thanks! th-cam.com/video/2jOIFBsqGHI/w-d-xo.html
@@WhipCityWrencher Thanks for the quick reply, much appreciated. I just watched the video link you sent, it was quite useful! I never would have thought of using a vice as a *cradle* (to support the fabric core as you're hacksawing the media), that's quite clever!
VW doing things different because...reasons. More material and manufacturing went into these filters with no real-world benefit. Just more areas to fail. KISS, people. KISS.
Thanks Pete you're the best👌
Pretty wild filters! These filters mount vertical beside the head threads down. Changing the oil is super easy done from top, cool😎
Thank You!👍
That would explain why the extra bypass valve.
@WhipCityWrencher Hey Pete, just came across this. It's much easier than it looks, usually 7-8 min. Thanks again for the teardown, I really enjoyed it😀
@@WhipCityWrencher Pete I believe the top valve (at the filter head) is an anti-drain valve for the oil outlet side. Makes sense where the filters are fitted on the top of the engine with filter head down. The valve on the other end is the usual bypass filter and the silicon gasket is the usual oil inlet side anti-drain valve. I wonder what the price difference is for the OEM v the MANN branded version?
@@jimb7406 I think you're right on about the extra bypass valve.
I thought the Volkswagen oil filter was considered OEM?
@@WhipCityWrenchercan you cut open the fram counterpart of this filter the ph10600
Stating the obvious, these VW/Audi spin on applications, unique. The canister protruding threads odd looking for sure. Leave it to German engineering. Safe saying both made by Euro Mann (M&H), the VW to their specs. Elements same. Second valve, closest to outlet better known as an "anti-siphon valve". Designed to keep oil in the center tube and filter on engine shut down. Works independently from the dome bypass valve. It's most like a second anti-drainback valve, but using a mechanical spring. Ford's with Zetec engines also have anti-siphon valve. Agree, adbv silicone. Thanks for vid.
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It’s my opinion that the Germans engineer things to be different but not necessarily better than American and Asian automotive engineers. Their reputation for over engineering has been well earned.
@@prevost8686 Fwiw, I agree with the "over engineering" thought.
I used those filters on my 11 gti. Sometimes those threads would come out in the car. Good filters.
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Great Job WhipCityWrencher. Love the in depth oil filter videos keep them coming. Thanks
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That is a funky filter, they look totally identical and I'd bet if you could pull that sticker, you might see the Mann printing underneath. There appears to be lok-tite red on those threads that go into the filter base. Not surprised they are well made, though, Mann always had a good reputation and I know alot of british Landy owners use Mann filters. Mann + Hummel also owns Wix and Purolator now. Definitely go with the cheaper option here.
Nice job as always Pete.
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@@WhipCityWrencher anytime, Pete!
Great job Pete as usual
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I use both of these filters. I buy whichever depending on what store/web site I'm at.
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They both look to be well-made oil filters.
These filters are for the 2.0T CBFA/CCTA, etc.. gas engines, during the time called out VW had at least four 2.0L engines in the US.
MHO is, IIRC, the vendor code for Mann.
The VW has red loc-tite on the threads because the adapter would often stay stuck on the oil filter base.
Thanks for Sharing👍
It is always interesting to me to decipher who actually makes the OEM filters for the car companies. In this case, the filters are almost identical. In other cases, like the Subaru 15208AA20A, there are telltale signs to show who actually made it (Sakura in that case).
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Volkswagen owns Mann filters, I can assure you these two filters are identical 😊
If you pause it at :58 mark you can see this filter is made by Mann and Hummel which makes a lot of oil filters for different vehicles.
Excellent video Pete! Looks like good filters. TFS and have a good weekend my friend. ❤ Merri :)
Thanks, Merri
Have a Great weekend also👍
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~ Sgt. Schultz.
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Very interesting Whip, thanks again!! 😊
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I look forward to your vids every Friday!! Thank you! 🙂
You're Welcome Paul, I Appreciate It. Thanks!
Really great job in comparison. Interesting that they were identical. Thanks!
You're Welcome Joel👍
Thanks!
If you look closely, the Mann P/N is on the VW oil filter.
Good catch.
I missed that.
As Jeff has mentioned! "Good Catch"👍
Did you notice the VW filter has the Mann part # on it (W719/45)? It's over in the instructions away from the VW part #.
Good eye! You are right - I'd guess these are made at the same factory.
Good Catch Gary👍
Freaky funky filters
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3:26 These flters look pretty identical. Yes, they're both the same because Mann is the OEM Co. that makes VW OE filters.
Thank you
Great video. Both filters looks very good. I don't care for the threaded stud on the filter, I like the stud on the engine, reason why, I have just enough room to get my filter on and off. Other than that, I like them both. Keep them coming, I really enjoy them. Hey. Can you do a Rotax oil filter cartridge
If you take a look at where VW puts these filters, there is a ton of room. They sit pointed straight up on the top side of the engine. The stud press down on part of the oil pressure regulator, I have seen some lower quality filters break this or even just cause low oil pressure.
Thanks!
I'll put the Rotax oil filter on my to-do list.
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Hi there happy weekend thanks great info
Thanks, Christina
Have a Great Weekend!
It would be nice to see the MAHLE version of this filter added to the comparison
Hi friend great sharing 👍
Thanks, bo
Great plalist
Obviously Mann manufactures the OE filters for VW
It's most likely Mann makes OEM Oil Filters for VW, AUDI, BMW and Mercedes. I heard rumours that in USA the OEM Oil filters known as Motorcraft, AcDelco and Mopar are made by FRAM just labelled differently and slightly different to the ones that are sold in shelfs in Autopart Stores. Don't know if this rumour is true ?
Hi Anish,
I don't think that rumor is true. As far as I know, the Motorcraft and Mopar filters are Purolator-made and owned by Mann and Hummel. The Acdelco are Champ made and are owned by First Brands who also own Fram. I could be wrong though, as companies buy each other out and it really isn't publicized.
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Oops ! I almost missed this video ! Just got done digging out of 50" of snow ! Is it possible the VW filter part that spins could accidently block the inlet holes ? 😮
Hi Scotty,
Nah, it won't block the inlet holes😊Theres some space between the plastic and inlet holes.
Wow, 50" of snow! That's a lot of snow❄🤪
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Nice video! How hard was it to cut open with the pipe cutter? Also curious why you were unable to use an oil filter cutting tool?
Thanks,
It was pretty easy, I mounted the pipe cutter in a vise.
The threads on these filters stick out and get in the way of the cutting blade on a reg. oil filter cutter.
@@WhipCityWrencher Very interesting! I actually cut open this identical VW filter last week, using a hack saw, and it was surprisingly difficult. Then again, I haven't used a hacksaw in a decade, so maybe my technique was off. I'll have to look into getting a pipe cutter, although at first glance one which is wide enough for this filter appears to be pretty pricey ($100 or so).
I was also very impressed at how neatly you managed to cut out the paper filter component. I tried using the hacksaw (hey, it was right there!), then with scissors, and ended up with quite a mess. What did you use to cut out the paper element? Thanks in advance!
Also, I was quite surprised by the hidden data code that you displayed with UV light. I tried that on mine, and voila! Same hidden numbers. Is this a common thing that VW does on all their parts? Or is it just an oil filter thing? Also, any theories on *why* they would hide these numbers, rather than just printing them in ink that's visible in normal light? I've been working on cars and reading about car stuff for 20+ years, and your video is the first time I've ever seen hidden numbers revealed via UV light! Now I'm wondering how many other car parts might have that sort of "invisible ink"...?
@@tedjohnson64 I was lucky with the pipe cutter I have. I picked it up a while back at a yard sale.
The date code is a German thing, why do they do it? Because they can. 😊LOL, But seriously I think some other European countries also have hidden date codes. Anytime I see no date code on a foreign oil filter I check it with the UV light. I use a hacksaw to cut the media and also wire-backed media. Here's a video I made on how I do it. Thanks! th-cam.com/video/2jOIFBsqGHI/w-d-xo.html
@@WhipCityWrencher Thanks for the quick reply, much appreciated. I just watched the video link you sent, it was quite useful! I never would have thought of using a vice as a *cradle* (to support the fabric core as you're hacksawing the media), that's quite clever!
@@tedjohnson64 Thanks!😊
VW owns Mann filters, I can assure you, these two filters are identical.
Tow filters exactly the same
Typical German over-engineering. But they look like they would do a decent job.
MHO = Manufaktor Code = Mann & Hummel
Let's take the North American filters and make them considerably more complex for no reason. 🤠
VW doing things different because...reasons. More material and manufacturing went into these filters with no real-world benefit. Just more areas to fail. KISS, people. KISS.
True, but everything about automobiles is being made more complicated.
KISS is now Keep It Stupid Shitty instead of Keep It Stupid Simple like the older German vehicles
@@daewooparts LOL. Well said.
@@WhipCityWrencher I can't argue that. 100% agreed.