@@bigdaddymak1439 If we knew what the melting point of the glue was, we would know weather it is a concern or not! If that glue is getting inside the engine it has the possibility of really causing a problem. The oil filter Mfg's need to tighten their QC guidelines on adhesive applications in the filter Mfg process.
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They'd make a better job TBH. This is awful, the last Bosch I opened didn't look anything like this, it's so bad you'd think it's a fake! What a brilliant review Whip, THANKS! 😊
I used Bosch filters (in the old gray can) in the late 1990’s when I was in the car repair business. For my customers’ sake, hopefully their quality was at a higher level. Do you know that STP originally was an acronym for “Studebaker Trade Products”. All that Scientifically Treated Petrolium that Andy Granatelli talked about came much afterward. It was just a coincidence. LOL. Great video as always, Pete!
Both of those filters are shining examples of why I prefer not to buy from companies who don’t actually make the filters. That STP filter looked great but is sourced overseas and the Bosch looked like it was made in Mexico, pretty dreadful looking inside. Great Video! Definitely opened up my eyes this morning!😀
@@elcano9l52 High quality can be achieved anywhere, I think that Highline Warren looking STP filter proves that. It is disconcerting how much manufacturing capability continues to flow out of this country.
If the only options were these two filters, I'd pick the STP because it has better components (silicone gasket, silicone anti-drainback valve, coli spring [my preference], thicker filter media) and is better made.
Looks like Bosch spent their money on the box that it was packaged in and had nothing left to build the filter … It’s just another example of major brands not giving a crap about product quality anymore. There are very few brands that you need not worry about what they sell anymore.
Thanks for another fine video. Back in the day our shop worked on German cars exclusively with the odd Saab or Volvo thrown in. We used both Bosch and Bosch Work Shop filters all the time and had zero comebacks, but I'm almost not surprised to see a decline in quality given today's production climate. We also used MANN and Mahle filters depending on which vehicle and availability. We never had oil related issues involving filters. We did so many oil changes that we had an older tech that did nothing but every day in a dedicated stall. Thank you for enlightening the automotive world with your videos.
As mentioned below, the STP looks a lot like a Microgard, although the Microgard Pete reviewed was cleaner. Filter media looks great, too. The Bosch? The worst I’ve seen on this channel.
Seems like Bosch quality control leaves a lot to be desired. However, the STP is made in China and I try to avoid Chinese products whenever possible. Given I was only able to choose between the 2 of them though, I would go with the STP.
I am assuming that the STP filter is manufactured by Champ Labs! Looks like a very good filter. I have been noticing on your sight, alot of Mfg"s seem to be sloppy with the glue! (that BOSH filter is terrible) have you ever asked a manufacture what the melting temperature of that glue is? If the glue melting point is higher then extreme oil temperatures gets, then there in no problem. If its lower then the extreme end of oil temperatures, then there is a problem of it getting into your oiling system on the car.
No, I never asked any manufacturer about the glue melting point, I doubt they would tell me anyway but, I would think it's higher than an engine oil temp should ever get.
Agree that the Mexico-made Bosch is pretty low quality, but why would you compare a low-end Bosch Workshop filter to a high-end STP? Shouldn't the comparison be to the standard blue STP filter?
Bosch doesn't make anything no more. They are just a purchasing company. People behind a computer making deals with and buying of the shelf from manufacturers or other purchasing companies world wide. Thus the German quality is no more.
The Bosch filter had such poor quality control One needs to reconsider before buying any Bosch Product. Poor social responsibility on the part of Bosch.
The AZ STP XL another Premium Guard made filter. Looks good as the PGI made filters do. In my locale the STP XL is a Champ Labs filter, much like the old Super Tech MP series filters. The Bosch Work Shop (WS) jobber/commercial grade filter looks like GARBAGE. Same thing happened to the Bosch Premium when the moved coo from US to Mexico. No bueno! Thanks for the video, Whip. Bluegrass music at end is interesting.
@@WhipCityWrencher I think I saw a vid of you playing the accordion once. Kinda thought that might make you more of polka guy. But, you being multi-talented, I could see you doing both. 👍
Bosch often has 2 different numbers. The shorter one is made for sales and the longer one is a more official number. In this case they are 72230WS and F00E369840. That STP filter resembles the Summit Racing filter from your older video. That too was Made in China. Is it made by the same factory?
That bosch filter is botched the baseplate threads also look bad ! My engines are more important than that ! The STP has a coil spring silicon base gasket and ADB valve ! STP for the win 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Nice review Whip. I'd buy the STP , much better filter. Better quality, and no 'cheese grater' center tube to restrict oil flow. I am currently using an STP 10,000 mile filter on my 2008 Focus. After seeing different comparisons on other filters...the STP 10,000 mile and the Microguard Select are much better filters than the 'Orange Can of Death'. Thanks Pete for sending them in for review.
2012 Ford Focus. Using Penzoil synthetic and STP oil filter. Engine clean and runs great. Never had a problem. AIR filter and Gas Treatment STP with no issue on the Focus. Everything from Autozone plus I get points.
@@haac4825 Awesome. I shop there as well for my filters and things I need. I saw a review and tear down of the Microgard Select Extended Life filter from O'Riley. That filter looks like a clone of the STP. Both are great filters.
Really coming to appreciate the Microgard Select / Premium Guard more and more with each video showing such incredibly sloppy gluing from their competitors.
Awesome Job, Pete and thanks Pete from Ft Myers for sharing. When I first saw the contestants in today's video, I would have bet the Bosch would have been the better filter. I would have lost that bet. The STP is the clear winner, it looks an awful lok like a boss filter and the Bosch looks like it was made by a guy with a hangover and vision impairment. I've never used a Bosch filter and I doubt I will start anytime soon. I don't mind paying more for a filter. It is still cheaper than a new engine.
Autozone always has the special Oil with STP filter. Never had a problem. STP Oil filter, Air and cabin filter, STP gasoline additives never had a problem. Good price and will keep using it.
At 11:16 The bottom of that Bosch filter on the inside looks really bad. I think that it's a bunch of glue. I wouldn't be too worried about excess glue on the unfiltered side, but if glue breaks loose on the filtered side, it could be real trouble. Another great video. Thank you.
Would yall use the STP or the previously reviewed Microgard Select 🧐
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Microgard Select
microgard
I like both of these filters, but the Microgard Select is my first choice.
Probably the STP because our Auto Zones generally have a better package price compared to O'Reilly by a couple of bucks.
That Bosch filter should have never left the factory.
Way too worried about glue
@@bigdaddymak1439It's a shoddy mess, that glue is all over the place.
@@bigdaddymak1439 If we knew what the melting point of the glue was, we would know weather it is a concern or not! If that glue is getting inside the engine it has the possibility of really causing a problem. The oil filter Mfg's need to tighten their QC guidelines on adhesive applications in the filter Mfg process.
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I try and make an oil filter inspection video every Friday on this TH-cam channel, Thank You!
Bosch looks like it was hand made..in khyber pass pakistan.
They'd make a better job TBH. This is awful, the last Bosch I opened didn't look anything like this, it's so bad you'd think it's a fake!
What a brilliant review Whip, THANKS! 😊
I used Bosch filters (in the old gray can) in the late 1990’s when I was in the car repair business. For my customers’ sake, hopefully their quality was at a higher level. Do you know that STP originally was an acronym for “Studebaker Trade Products”. All that Scientifically Treated Petrolium that Andy Granatelli talked about came much afterward. It was just a coincidence. LOL. Great video as always, Pete!
Thank You and Thanks for Sharing👍
Both of those filters are shining examples of why I prefer not to buy from companies who don’t actually make the filters. That STP filter looked great but is sourced overseas and the Bosch looked like it was made in Mexico, pretty dreadful looking inside. Great Video! Definitely opened up my eyes this morning!😀
Those STP are great filters. If this shows anything, is how biased we are on the China made stuff. Made in USA doesn’t mean the same anymore
Thank You👍
@@elcano9l52 High quality can be achieved anywhere, I think that Highline Warren looking STP filter proves that. It is disconcerting how much manufacturing capability continues to flow out of this country.
If the only options were these two filters, I'd pick the STP because it has better components (silicone gasket, silicone anti-drainback valve, coli spring [my preference], thicker filter media) and is better made.
Thanks, Jeff👍
Hi whip happy Friday great sharing 👍
Happy Friday👍
Looks like Bosch spent their money on the box that it was packaged in and had nothing left to build the filter … It’s just another example of major brands not giving a crap about product quality anymore. There are very few brands that you need not worry about what they sell anymore.
Missed this one 👍
Stp for the win. Happy Friday 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Happy Friday, Thanks👍
Thanks, Pete and donation Pete. The STP looks very similar to the Microgard filter. The Bosh filter is hot garbage. STP for the win this week.
Hi Jonathan, Thanks👍
Thanks, Jonathan. -the "other" Pete
Hot Garbage? You're too kind, they've really let things slip. It's the worst I've ever seen
Thanks for another fine video. Back in the day our shop worked on German cars exclusively with the odd Saab or Volvo thrown in. We used both Bosch and Bosch Work Shop filters all the time and had zero comebacks, but I'm almost not surprised to see a decline in quality given today's production climate. We also used MANN and Mahle filters depending on which vehicle and availability. We never had oil related issues involving filters. We did so many oil changes that we had an older tech that did nothing but every day in a dedicated stall. Thank you for enlightening the automotive world with your videos.
You're Welcome and Thanks for Sharing👍
Great video Pete. Hopefully a rep from Bosch sees the poor quality on their filter. That thing is a mess.
Thank You👍
Another great review and sharing Pete; I should say, "Pete and Pete", lol. Filter Friday 👍. TFS, stay cool, hot 1st day of summer!! ☺
Thanks, Merri
Stay Cool, Happy Friday😊
@@WhipCityWrencher You 2
STP 100% better for doing its job. The other way too much glue.
Just goes to show a premium brand like Bosch doesn't necessarily mean a premium part.
Thanks!
Thanks whip
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As mentioned below, the STP looks a lot like a Microgard, although the Microgard Pete reviewed was cleaner. Filter media looks great, too. The Bosch? The worst I’ve seen on this channel.
Seems like Bosch quality control leaves a lot to be desired. However, the STP is made in China and I try to avoid Chinese products whenever possible. Given I was only able to choose between the 2 of them though, I would go with the STP.
Bosch should be ashamed of themselves.
Total third-world garbage
Com essa aparência, eu jamais usaria esse Bosch
I am assuming that the STP filter is manufactured by Champ Labs! Looks like a very good filter. I have been noticing on your sight, alot of Mfg"s seem to be sloppy with the glue! (that BOSH filter is terrible) have you ever asked a manufacture what the melting temperature of that glue is? If the glue melting point is higher then extreme oil temperatures gets, then there in no problem. If its lower then the extreme end of oil temperatures, then there is a problem of it getting into your oiling system on the car.
No, I never asked any manufacturer about the glue melting point, I doubt they would tell me anyway but, I would think it's higher than an engine oil temp should ever get.
Agree that the Mexico-made Bosch is pretty low quality, but why would you compare a low-end Bosch Workshop filter to a high-end STP? Shouldn't the comparison be to the standard blue STP filter?
These filters were sent to me.
I’m shocked at how bad the Bosch filter is. I would have bet the Bosch would have been 10x better.... I was way wrong.
The Premium brand Bosch oil filters are much better. Thanks👍
you win ..lol
Thanks, Jay👍
People are way too worried about glue.
Bosch doesn't make anything no more. They are just a purchasing company. People behind a computer making deals with and buying of the shelf from manufacturers or other purchasing companies world wide. Thus the German quality is no more.
That bosch is an embarrassment.
I wouldn't use either one of these.
The Bosch filter had such poor quality control One needs to reconsider before buying any Bosch Product. Poor social responsibility on the part of Bosch.
The AZ STP XL another Premium Guard made filter. Looks good as the PGI made filters do. In my locale the STP XL is a Champ Labs filter, much like the old Super Tech MP series filters. The Bosch Work Shop (WS) jobber/commercial grade filter looks like GARBAGE. Same thing happened to the Bosch Premium when the moved coo from US to Mexico. No bueno! Thanks for the video, Whip. Bluegrass music at end is interesting.
You're Welcome faxmen09.
The Bluegrass music kinda wants me to do some square dancing, lol 😊
@@WhipCityWrencher Square Dancing eh. Well Whip, you go and do si do. 😄
@@faxmen09 lol😊
@@WhipCityWrencher I think I saw a vid of you playing the accordion once. Kinda thought that might make you more of polka guy. But, you being multi-talented, I could see you doing both. 👍
@@faxmen09 🤣Thanks, lol😊
I wish the boxes would state the actual manufacturer of the filter.
Bosch often has 2 different numbers. The shorter one is made for sales and the longer one is a more official number. In this case they are 72230WS and F00E369840.
That STP filter resembles the Summit Racing filter from your older video. That too was Made in China. Is it made by the same factory?
Sloppy glue on both filters. Great video. Thank you.
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That bosch filter is botched the baseplate threads also look bad ! My engines are more important than that ! The STP has a coil spring silicon base gasket and ADB valve ! STP for the win 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks Whip! That bosch with all that extra glue screams... I don't care.
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Neither. But.... I'd choose the STP over the Bosch. Nothing beats the Microgard Select IMHO.
Nice review Whip. I'd buy the STP , much better filter. Better quality, and no 'cheese grater' center tube to restrict oil flow. I am currently using an STP 10,000 mile filter on my 2008 Focus. After seeing different comparisons on other filters...the STP 10,000 mile and the Microguard Select are much better filters than the 'Orange Can of Death'. Thanks Pete for sending them in for review.
Thank You👍
2012 Ford Focus. Using Penzoil synthetic and STP oil filter. Engine clean and runs great. Never had a problem. AIR filter and Gas Treatment STP with no issue on the Focus. Everything from Autozone plus I get points.
Thank you, Rick. The "other" Pete
@@haac4825 Awesome. I shop there as well for my filters and things I need. I saw a review and tear down of the Microgard Select Extended Life filter from O'Riley. That filter looks like a clone of the STP. Both are great filters.
STP 👍
Happy Filter Friday! 😎👍👍
I’ll still use a Purolator any day!
Like 42 whip full
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Really coming to appreciate the Microgard Select / Premium Guard more and more with each video showing such incredibly sloppy gluing from their competitors.
Hey, Whip City... and a Pats jacket in a video, seems we may be from the same small "city"
Might be, Westfield Ma,
@@WhipCityWrencher Same here. Keep an eye out for the bug in my signature... hard to miss haha
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Made in China STP (sadly) filter looks really nice to me.
Wow someone got a little too happy with the glue gun😂Poor Bosch
Awesome Job, Pete and thanks Pete from Ft Myers for sharing. When I first saw the contestants in today's video, I would have bet the Bosch would have been the better filter. I would have lost that bet. The STP is the clear winner, it looks an awful lok like a boss filter and the Bosch looks like it was made by a guy with a hangover and vision impairment. I've never used a Bosch filter and I doubt I will start anytime soon. I don't mind paying more for a filter. It is still cheaper than a new engine.
Thanks, Jim👍
@@WhipCityWrencher Anytime, Pete!
You're welcome, Jim. - The "other" Pete.
@@manandthesea1 thanks! “Other Pete” 😁
The STP looks like a Premium Guard.
Autozone always has the special Oil with STP filter. Never had a problem. STP Oil filter, Air and cabin filter, STP gasoline additives never had a problem. Good price and will keep using it.
Thanks for the info👍
At 11:16 The bottom of that Bosch filter on the inside looks really bad. I think that it's a bunch of glue. I wouldn't be too worried about excess glue on the unfiltered side, but if glue breaks loose on the filtered side, it could be real trouble. Another great video. Thank you.
You're Welcome, Thanks👍
Great review!
Thank You👍