Cheap Coilovers Vs Expensive Spacer Lift
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Be conservative and not break the bank or pay significantly more for a bit of a quality jump. That is the debate we bring you. Cheap coil-overs or an expensive spacer lift kit. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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This or that question: lifted k1500 or slammed 7.3 powerstroke
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That’s crazy. The instrumental in the back ground is from one of my fav songs. Would of never thought it would be on custom offsets 🔥
if you have a newer truck and the shocks are fine go and spend $100 on a spacer then once its time for new shocks or you buy a truck that needs new shocks just go and spend the money on coilovers
100% best comment
Hey in your opinion. What is the best strut/ coil overs combo for 3” leveling on a 2017 GMC 1500
@@MACQJR if its just driving on the street get whatever you want. Offroad performance doesnt matter in that case. Off roading I think fox 2.0 are over priced for what they are better bang for the buck anything with a remote ressy.
@@MACQJR what did you end up doing? we have the same year truck and I’m also starting my build 👀
@@buffalobmf thanks!
This is something I was actually trying to find out, thank for the video🔥👍
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Fishing With Ibarra I was too, I was torn between the BDS and the mcgaughys. But after seeing this kit and price, I believe this is my future lift
Been watching videos all week and this one answered all my questions
I'm broke...spacers it is lol! Great video, answered a lot of questions, as I'm a new to the truck game. Thank you!
did your ride change?
Currently have a 6” BDS system on my 2020 GMC 1500. Adding the Vertex Coilovers next week. Can’t wait.
I got the 6inch rough country with replacement struts it came with a new set of springs. Also got new upper control arms, so everything is clocked better than prefect. Rides so nice.
Joezze-Bear what brand and size of uca did you get?
Ho lee Chit they are the tubular uca from rough country’s 3” lift kit.
Man I really could’ve used this video two years ago before I lifted my truck. Glad to see more educational stuff being made available to the general public though. So many options these days it’s good to have resources available to self educate.
What did you end up getting and what’s your set up? Regrets etc
Informational & honest video explanation about spacers & coilovers=Suspensions. Thank you.
Great explanation and recommendations. Thanks
I currently have a Pro Comp 6” strut spacer kit with the pro runner shocks all around. I am looking to upgrade to coil overs in the front at some point. It appears most of the coil overs (Ex: Fox 2.75) only lift up to 2.5”. What fills that gap?
I went with a zone 6” it seemed a little beefier, and used vertex coil overs. Seemed like a good middle ground and I have no complaints.
I use spacers if i have brand new shocks on already. If they arnt new like a used truck or if i had the truck for a while then I’ll replace it or replace the spacer with a coilover
I agree with you Fuller!
Great video! I have a 2018 tundra, looking at either the redi lift 4" sst or the bds 3" with coil overs. Csnt decide, pull motorcycle trailer(enclosed with HD dresser) but also want to do some trail driving with truck. Tundra is also my daily. So not sure which way to go.
Save your money and wait to buy a quality lift kit. It will save you in the long run and maintain your factory geometry. Also, running bigger wheels and tires puts more stress on the ifs. The necks of your front shocks are small and not as beefy as good coilover shocks which can handle the heavier wheel and tire setups. Save for BDS coilovers, ready lift bilsteins or icon coilovers or bulletproof suspension which uses icon coilovers.
What would you suggest for lifting just like 3" the max on a dodge magnum awd I really wanna lift it give it that rally look but I don't see many options for that application
Rc 6” spacer for 04-08 f150 rides like a brick and upper arm hits spacer, definitely worth the 250 for longer strut by rc night and day difference
I own a 2008 Ford F-150 and I want to lift the front end of my truck 1 1/2” ( I still want to have a 1/2” rake). I do some light off roading and I read that the strut spacers can cause some premature wear. Is it a bad idea to use strut spacers for my situation? Thanks.
Great video man!
I have a 2018 silverado with 15k. I want a 4 or 4.5 lift but with the same or better ride quality. What you think is better????
You didn't mention about upper control arm replacement option so it retains the factory's geometry.
Yes, if you want to have useful travel in the suspension. Most people are retards and do it for looks versus functionality. Plus they never really do any trails to use their stock suspension. Screw them losers.
Just ordered rough country vertex coilover 6 inch lift kit for my 2019 Ram 1500. With 35x12.50 AMP terrain attacka on fuel contras 22 with neg44 offset. Thanks
I’m wondering will the vertex coilover raise my 6” zone off-road kit on my 2020 Ram 1500 bighorn or will it stay the same height?
More vids like this. Informative and good material.
Have a 2013 silverado 1500 with rc 6in jus wondering if u guys have done any vertex coilover conversions on this setup?
Hello, I have a '15 toyota tundra. It came with a pro comp 6in lift kit with spacers and stock suspension. I recently bought icon 2.5 coilovers and 2.5 piggy back rears. I really wanted to get rid of the front spacer and possibly rear block. With my new suspension it won't replace the spacer, ill have tonise it to keep the lift level. Is there any way I can get rid of the front spacer with my current purchase?
My question is can I add both? I have Ironman 4x4 lift kit and wondering if I can add the spacer lift kit to that.
Is one able to uses a spacer and add a air lift kit to it or is it one or the other ?
So the longer strut in the factory spring he's referring to is that for example the 5100 upgrade in the superlift because I really didn't understand the difference in kits when I bought for my ram 1500 6inch I just saw cheap superlift shocks vs lifetime warranty bilstien upgrade.....and I went with superlift over rough country because it seems like every 10 people you talk to a shock has always failed in like less than 20k
Best thing about video like this one is that it allowed regular truck enthusiasts to ask ordinary questions in hope to try to understand truck suspension systems without feeling talked down by seudo truck wannabe engineer, know it all arrogant others
Thanks for the information
Quick question I have 4inch lift Nissan Titan 06’ and want to go with coil overs but I’m being told I can’t because there isn’t any company that has a coil over for my specific truck specs.
Any where you can help give me some suggestions or idea on what I can do to get a new suspension kit?
I wonder when or if any more companies are going to look into foam cell technology like Ironman 4x4 has. There systems are less expensive than coilovers and blow both performance and ride quality out of the water comparing directly to a remote reservoir system. My shop has installed a couple hundred of their kits so far and our customers love them. We used to focus on either spacer kits or Icon/ King systems but when we can get an Iroman foam cell pro kit installed for only 300-500 more than a spacer kit and it rides nicer than a comparable coilover kit why bother.
Thanks for the video 🤙
So spacers won’t cause any problems on the entire suspension anymore? Geometry save?
I've been super confused lately with in coil spacers vs top hat spacers recently and was curious if you know if they both extend your strut or is it just top hat spacers that extend's your struts down travel?
A top hat lengthens the overall length of the strut by adding inches to the top." It won't change the pre-load or ride quality. Coil spacers add preload to the spring as they're installed between the spring and top of the strut - forcing the truck up and creating a stiffer ride on the same spring. Coilovers replace the entire strut/spring combo with a longer strut/spring combo (think strut and tophat as one piece).
As an owner of a small 4x4 shop I offer 3 options for a lift kit. Either spacer, spacer with preload, or coilover. I can install either one or two for the customer to test out for an extra fee. It's more often that a preload with spacer will be chosen to control the extra weight of the wheel and tire package if purchased at the same time. If only the lift will be purchased, it's just the spacer. Just a thought.
where are you located and do you make custom kits? I want a coilover system for my 2008 Honda Crossroad. It's a Japanese model not sold in the US bcuz they didn't want to compete with the Element
Was gonna get the fox 2.5 coilover for my truck how ever I didnt want to dich my stock suspension. So i went and get spacer wich change the quality of the ride . Eventually gonna get me those fox coilovers 😜
2018 tundra crewmax...
Rough country 6" vertex
Superlift 6" with fox shocks
Readylift 6" with bilstein shocks
What's the verdict?
Will be towing and light off roading
Another thing to consider: Does your truck need new struts and shocks. A friend recently bought a 2018 F-150 with 70k on it. He was just gonna go for the spacer leveling kit (Mammoth) but I talked him into the full strut/shock kit, once we got it in and drove it......WOW.....The difference in ride quality was night and day. The factory struts and suspension had been doing an ok job but at 70k they were definitely getting worn out.
I'm the in-between on this because I know coil-overs are good, but I don't want to pay 3k for coil-overs and then use cheap tires. I think full replacement strut like what Mcgaughy's offers is the best of both worlds because of price and ride. It would leave open more of a budget for decent tires also.
This is what I came to find out. Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Great video
Hey brother I am from India I need to lift my Hyundai i20 2014 version please suggest me a better option.
If I have a 6” RC lift and I wanna replace the coil overs what size / length do I need to look for?
Give us an email to info@customoffsets.com so our suspension experts can help you man!
I just want to add 3-4 inches on my 2003 Chevy s10 cause I am 6'1 and the gas pump is like to my lower thigh and I need to bend down to the side to pump gas. Also would it be better if I just get a 2 inch lift and then get my tires bigger.
Can you order a strut replacement for a 6.5 zone lift kit? For a Chevy Silverado 1500 4wd.
I have a 6” lift on my 2022 Ram Rebel ecodiesel and it has the spacers. It has also upgraded 5100 bilstein shocks around. The ride is super rough! Why?
Which would ride smoother on street. I have a 2022 Tahoe z71. I’m planning to go 3 to 4 inches
I just want the height for the looks. Use 3" spacer (leveling kit) is ok? It is bad for my truck components? I have a 2022 silverado 1500 high country.
So if I basically use my truck as a daily, very few times in off road, am i ok with a cheap lift kit?
Yes!
Is my 2017 F-250 considered magneride ?
I have a 79 Ranchero I want to lift for 22x12s on 33s . Can you guys help?
I went with extended struts from rough country because coilovers are expensive asf and strut spacers just give a rough drive with the OEM strut travel on a higher lift
What shop you guys recommend to get suspension work done near Los Angeles/Orange County/inland empire California
Does the rough country coil overs have an adjustable ride height like some others do?
They do
There is one thing you guys forgot to mention, my buddy bought a 6inch bds lift for his 97 obs Chevy and in six month of owning it bushing were coming loose and the truck was making noise over bumps and steering. I think the lift block method is the only way to go. My buddy fixed all the bushings and sold the truck to buy a newer truck.
Thanks for the feedback 🤘
Next video, block lift vs leaf springs??
I bought a bilstine 6112 front coilovers strut and spring that can be ajusted to a 2 inch lift i was just wondering if i would get a better ride if i dont fully extende the strut leave it in the stock ride level and just use a 2inch lift strut block
Hey send us an email, our experts should be able to help you out in this situation. info@customoffsets.com 💪
How are the freedom offroad coilovers for a Tacoma?
I used spacers to raise my 2018 tacoma 1" and cranked up my procomp coil over for another half inch lift. Just bought a 2.5" spacer to replace the 1" spacer so that I can also crank down my coilover back down a half inch to get back the better rideability
Proper!
@@CustomOffsetsTV so, I was going to install the spacer so that I can turn down .5" or 1" off the coilovers and was researching what is the torque specs for the upper control arm nut. But before installing the spacer I wanted to make sure my the nut was at 85ft/ lb. So I as I was trying to losen it I noticed how extremely tight it was. After finally loosening and torquing to 85ft/lbs all of a sudden my ride became soooooo much smoother!! Like night and day! Decided not to add the spacer and leave the coilovers where it's at lol
What is the purpose of a 1/2 inch pre loader on the bds level kit. Does it really help with geometry and ride quality when using bigger tires?
Depending on which level kit you are talking about, the description should say what the purpose is!
Custom Offsets yes it does. It says it helps with geometry and weight of bigger tires. But some say it’s all a marketing sales pitch. Just want to know if in your experience it works as intended.
My local offroad shop strongly advises me against using spacer struds, citing problems with stability and ball joints. How accurate is this? I see so many use it and have no problems - what are you guys take on this?
All depends, we've ran them on numerous vehicles for 5+ years with zero issues, any modifications like bigger wheels/tires/spacers etc will put added stress on ball joints/wheel bearings, to what degree depends on how you drive, what you're running for a setup etc!
If we’re unsure on what would fit our truck from just looking at the website. Can we email you to get your input on if things we have in our cart would fit our truck?
Yes definitely! Our email is info@customoffsets.com 🤘🏼
What 6 inch strut do you recommend to add a 2 inch spacer for a 2013 F150 Fx4?
It all depends on preference, but email our experts at info@customoffsets.com and they can help ya out! 💪
Your opinion on the rough country coilover kit or is there a review video coming out soon ????
You can’t beat the quality for the price when it comes to rough country 🤘🏼
Do either of the methods affect your travel or ground clearance? I’ve heard that spacer kits don’t actually improve your off-road experience or give you more ground clearance and that they are an appearance vs greater off road capabilities like a complete coil over or strut replacement. Taking the obvious, stiffer ride for aggressive off-roading from a coil over, What else does it do that a spacer doesn’t?
Spacers give you more down travel and less up travel. A longer shock and spring setup will allow you to maintain up travel (that the vehicle was designed with) and give you more down travel, helping you in off road driving / over landing etc. You want slightly higher spring rates for offroading with more lift than stock, but it is really dependent on your GVM and GCM as to what those numbers should be. You don't really need longer shocks if you aren't lifting more than 2 inches (with a spacer kit). It can be prudent to install longer / taller bump stops with a spacer kit though, just to make sure the shocks don't get over compressed. Peace
Which of these would you recommend for my 2019 ram 2500? I want a little lift “maybe 3-5in, undecided” I don’t off-road much and when I do it’s for work. I pull trailers all the time. Box trailers over the road mostly but also my hydrologic dump trailer on and off road.
If you are pulling trailers you should really go with a quality lift man. BDS and McGaughy’s are both excellent 🤘🏼
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What about Procomp Stage 1
Have 2014 ram 1500 4wd. Trying to determine which will offer better daily drive / highway quality.
4inch ready lift sst and adding bilstein front struts or 4inch superlift? They price out very equally, which makes more sense ? Also which generally hase cheaper install labor ?
Install labor will be different from shop to shop, so you’re best bet would be to get quotes. Both of those kits a very good. We recommend checking out forums and determining which you’d prefer 🤘🏼
Hi,Does a spacer kit mess with steering handling?
We definitely wouldn’t recommend trying to go off road or flying through corners, but usually if installed right it won’t mess with ride quality too much.
Forgive my ignorance as im still trying to figure out whats best.. but with coilovers shouldn't you still do the diff drop, relocate the sway bar replace the knuckles etc? If so wouldn't you be better served, assuming you're 9n. A fixed budget atm, to get the spacer kit that comes w all that stuff and then Replace the spacer/stock shock combo w something better when you're able or they wear out?
jroll0410 definitely an option! A steel strut spacer will not “wear out” really, unless it gets so rusty that it’s looses its strength- but that would take ages.
I actually have both, I keep my coil overs at the lowest height (2.5”) for a better ride with a 1.5 inch spacer on top making it 4” total.
How has it held up
Interested as well
@@medinan86 I just ordered a 6in lift , just do it just better for your truck
I'm new to the truck scene, looking at a rough country 6" for my 08 Tundra, I'm just a broke college student so I'm debating whether I should spend the extra for those lifted N3 struts they offer, or stick with the spacer, what would you all suggest?? In the future though I'll definitely be looking at some nice coilovers, thanks for the info great vid! 👍🏼
If you’re on a budget the spacers aren’t a bad way to go. Both are good for the price man 🤘🏼
Custom Offsets That's probably what I'll stick with then, thanks! 🤙🏼
Custom Offsets I should have included another question for you guys in my comment but it's not related to the struts or spacers haha, you guys are the best though so I figure you'd know, Ive seen a few things around suggesting that if you go over 3" of lift that it's a good idea to do a carrier bearing drop. I've also had people tell me it's a good idea to re-gear when bumping up to a 35" tire, I could deal with the power loss as long as i know it won't damage the vehicle, what would you all say about this? Thanks in advance 👌🏼👍🏼
Good day can I ask about shocks for pick what do you prefer for daily drive?
Fox or King!
Can you do a video on body spacers
I drive a 2013 Ford f150 two-wheel drive I do have a 6 inch rough country lift and for the longest time I was unable to find any coilovers finally bilstein makes a 6-in lift strut only thing I have to do is transfer my spring and top hat so any of you that drives a 2013 Ford F-150 two-wheel drive now you know thanks Fuller for this video I hate it how my truck rides on that struts phaser was installed
Wheel behind fuller right side?
Any one used 6 inch Readylift spacer lift? Looking at it for my 2014 Tundra.
What are those wheels behind you? Bronze on the right. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Rotiform?
ive got active ride on my 08 suburban and i would like to keep it. currently have a spacer under my strut to level the front end for my 20x12-44 and 305/50/20 toyo proxies but would like to go a with a slightly taller tire. ive already done the norcal mod and still rub tires on the bumper and fender and dont want to do anymore cutting on a perfectly clean suburban
You may need to be okay with a little trimming if you are looking to go bigger man 🤘🏼
Custom Offsets do you guys offer a spacer kit for the suburbans?
Can you do a ball joint vs uniball uca pros and cons. In particular for midwest folks
We can take that into consideration 🤘🏼
Hello! I’ve got a F350 with a 2” inch ReadyLift factory spacer. I haul a trailer day in and day out, and I’m always on the road. Would a coil over drastically effect road driving? I know that they improve off road, but I’m not doing much off roading.
Coilovers help road wise a bunch, especially a solid axle, it picks up where strut and spring lack. Rides better, handles better etc!
I order my wheels on Monday and they haven't gotten to you guys I'm getting impatient lol 😂😂😂 😂
Sorry about that man! Make sure you add your ride to our gallery when you get 'em! bit.ly/2D4ik58
Save up and get some nice coil overs or get a good lift kit with good angles (BDS BABY)
I have a 6.5 zone lift being installed and saw you in a video next to a truck with the same lift kit and curious how tall you are so I can try to picture myself next to it finished? Lol thanks!
Fuller is about 5 feet 5 inches
6.5 bds or zone 6.5 ??
I’ve been back and forth between rough country n3 struts, fox 2.0, and the rancho quicklift. I ordered the the ranchos today for the easy stiffness adjustability. I’ll check back later and let y’all know how they’re doing
How are they doing
N3 struts ride like garbage
@@alexklein455 ya 350$ I expect that
It’s probably shit that’s why he never got back to us lol
I want to lift my 17 silverado but my intentions are mainly towing a travel trailer on highways . It’s the z71 off road package with 22’’ stock rims I intend to keep just add rubber . I have the 6’’ coil over bds in a cart but I’m new enough to this world to not be confident if it necessary
My first and favorite car I ever bought was an 04 Cadillac STS if trying to understand what kind of ride I like
You should be fine with that man! That’s a good kit to pick! 🤘
Custom Offsets I was convinced by a friend to just level it for now , I am planning to move to Florida in a couple months and Already have the exhaust and intake on the way so I guess this is what being responsible is . I need new friends lol . Thank you for the reply though
So I have a 2010 Chevy Silverado 1500 2wd with 20x14 33x13.50 and want to do a 4 inch coilover. Will I need a upper control arms?
Typically no, but if they are worn out and or needing replacement, definitely doesn't hurt to upgrade!
Is that nocap playing in the background
Thanks for the video, super helpful.
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What would you recommend for a daily driver on a newer Kia Sorento? Just want enough lift to pull up to a curb and not hit the bottom of front bumper.
That would depend how close it is now. You could do a rough measure of how much you need to raise it by parking next to a curb and comparing!
@@CustomOffsetsTV inch to 2 inches, I've noticed not all curbs are the same height.
I have that 6” spacer on my 2016 Silverado. I swappers out the OEM shocks to bilstien 5100. It rides ok on local streets. Seems good on highway but honestly just don’t like the look of the huge spacer. Imma drop another $1,000 and install the Vertex shocks in a few days.
So how the vertex compared to the 5100 with spacer? I have the 5100 with spacer and debating on switching to full coil over. Is it worth it?
I want to raise my 2014 Ram 1500 Longhorn (Non-air-ride) 3 inches in the front and 1 inch in the rear. I am putting an all-weather tire on it, NOT a Terrian or mud tire. Similar to my Wrangler SRA's. highway tire.
How can I keep my factory ride, I hear from many folks ride is much worse. Is it the spaces giving the bad ride cause new geometry? or the Tires they put on? or both.
Any help would be appreciated.
Best bet would be something like a level lift, it will keep it very similar to stock on the cheaper side, or if you want to spend a little more getting a nicer setup with control arms, or coils definitely improves ride to stock territory! Check our setups out here - www.customwheeloffset.com/store/suspension?year=2014&make=Ram&model=1500&drive=4WD
I just went back to your video for the 2019 and up Dodge Ram 1500 3-1/2 leveling and lift kit with 2in lift in the rear a kid like that what would the price on that style of a kit for the Dodge Ram 1500 because when I get my truck really don't want to lift as much as I want to level the truck but I like that 2" left which well allow you to put a nicer Tire on your pickup truck
Email us at info@customoffsets.com so we can get you a quote man! 🤘🏼
@@CustomOffsetsTV I was just on your website it's the kit for $900 for the 2019 RAM and up it gives you three and a half inch in the front and 2 in in the rear and 2 metal brackets for your bump stops it was so easy to find it out now I just got to look through the rims and tires but the biggest thing is getting my truck I'm waiting for my friend the trade in his truck which is up you got to bring it in Christmas Eve for them to look it over and then we're going to purchase two vehicles at the same time for a better discount sorry thought if you were weeks before I go get my truck but you will be the first ones I call
Sounds good man!
What’s the rim to the right of your head. The one that’s slightly bronze in colour
Look here! bit.ly/3b2we6I
I have the 7.5 inch lift on my 09 Sierra. Can I simply replace the stock strut and spacer with the lifted N3 strut rough country offers ?
You could but i wouldnt. Horrible ride quality.
@@alexklein455 how would it be worse?
@@bayouboyjp1324 Once they're broken in they're extremely bouncy over bumps and give you a ton of body roll. I warrantied them 3 times and the third set was starting to get bouncy too. Went from N3 lifted struts to Bilstein 5100s with 7.5 inch spacers. Huge improvement.
I just bought a 2014 toyota tundra not a 4x4 I want to lift it 6 inch lift what do you guys think
Plenty of people lift 2wd trucks! www.customwheeloffset.com/store/suspension?year=2014&make=Toyota&model=Tundra&drive=RWD
Can you add a spacer lift on top of a 3 inch lift kit without any problem? Rear is 2.5” higher than the front small rake.
We do not recommend stacking lifts!
Custom Offsets thank you
Custom Offsets and why wouldn’t you recommend it ? What will happen if I do install it over the coil over ?
Stacking lifts is dangerous. You are better off buying the lift that is the height you are looking to achieve!
I just purchased the 6 inch bds lift kit with the upgraded fox shocks with reservoirs in the rear. I will be running 20x10 fuels with 35x12.5 ridge grapplers on my 2019 Sierra 1500. I heard BDS is the best but I did not get the fox 2.5 coil over conversion kit. Money aside... is the coil overs worth it? I am not a off-roader and I am trying to retain as close as possible to factory ride ( wife’s truck). After watching some videos and doing research, it has been said the bds 6 inch kit rides great without the coil over conversion. Please let me know because if so, I’ll cash out and get the coil over upgrade! Thanks!
Update.... cashed out the extra 1900 for the coilovers!!!
So which has the better ride, less stiff and closer to factory ride? Do you like the coilovers better or the standard lift kit?
I had a BDS suspension put on my jeep in 2003 still running strong 20 years later.
Rc 2 inch level or billstein 5100 ? Humm what should I get ?
Both are great options!
Your 100% correct in your analysis