Reolink 4K Camera with AI Person and Vehicle Detection - RLC-810A Review
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- In this video we are taking a look at a new 4K 8 megapixel camera from Reolink which features local AI with Person and Vehicle detection and recording. It can send push notifications and emails when a person or vehicle is detected, all done local on the camera, meaning no cloud subscription or fees to pay. But how good is it and how good is the image quality from that 4K sensor? Let's find out!
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are they able to save the video files to a nas? i only read ftp, what about smb?
@@majstealth did you find out?
@@petrhauser7162 i only got them running while having the nas, qnap in my case, use some sort of camera manager take the video feed of the camera. qvr, normal or pro on qnap side, there are synology apps also.
atm they run with 128 or 256gb micro sd, they are still holding the first videos from back in january, so they dont even need to save to a nas, spacewise.
if i remember corretly they are not able to save to smb themself.
Perfectly explained and fabulous review, thanks. I’m thinking of upgrading one of my existing Reolink camera’s and this video is helping me with that decision. So, thanks again. You now have a new subscriber!! Best to you - Neil.
Thanks Neil, appreciate it!
Thanks for a good review and for answering all my questions.... before they were asked!!
Thanks for the comment and support!
Thanks for this great review, I just bought a couple of these cameras after watching this keep thanks again
I find that having push notifications enabled for motion detection is practically useless with my 4K D800 cameras, as even just the sun coming out from behind the clouds is enough to set off the motion sensors, even with sensitivity set as low as possible. Glad to hear there were no false positives with these new AI cameras.
Great video. One thing, the RLC-511 is more than '1080p' as you state. Its 5MP which is between 1080p and 4k.
Thanks! Yes indeed it is
Great video
Thanks! 🙏
Thank you very much for that well made Video. I ordered 2 of them to replace some older one and like to combine them with a Synology. Is the AI Feature still working if i run the cams 24/7 on the Synology? And what about the maximum distance for AI (detecting People or cars). Looking forward to your answer. 🙏🏻 Kind regards from Germany
Great review would like to see the difference between the RLC 810A and RLC 822A with 822A having 3 x optical zoom. Thanks 🙏
Thanks! If I can get my hands on one I will definitely do that!
Any chance you could test the home assistant onvif integration?
I'm curious if it can send what type of detection has been made to use them as triggers.
Great video nevertheless!
Thank you very clear video. I'd have liked to see exactly how to set up the AI bit on vehicle and person detection. You say when a person or vehicle "enters the frame" and by this I take it to mean the whole of the FoV of the camera, which is what I've previous had confirmed by Reolink support on their previous models. I had hopes that with the newer 4K cameras this might have updated to be more specific similar to the HIKVision intrusion detection where you can define the area against which you want the detection event to send an alert. This means for me where I have a road in front of the house the vehicle/person detection is alerting when anyone is passing the house rather than when they cross the property line. Reolink seem to be good products and well priced but they lack the functionality I need. Unless of course I have misunderstood how they operate?
Bit of a late reply but i've got a Reolink NVR and 4k cameras (models RLC810 and RLC822) and I can set up a detection area to disable alerts for that area. The main difference between this newer software and the old one is that it can generate alerts specifically for person and vehicles, as well as the general motion alerts. You can set up a push notification for only person/vehicle and ignore general motion (e.g. you don't have to exclude a plant moving in the wind from the detection). That way, you are not spending days trawling through alerts. In my experience, it works very well. I've not had any false positives.
@@SBBUK Thanks for the reply, as I couldn't get a clear answer from reolink (at the time) I went for a Hikvision system which I am very happy with especially their colorvu cameras. Amazing low light performance. Very happy with my decision.
Gr8 video
Plz review Annke c800
Thanks! Would love to
That is good test, can you check is it possible to have AI notification (about person detected) pushed to Home Assistant? (and for example turn on lights, but not for spiders)
If you're on Android, you can use the Home Assistant Companion app to catch notification from the Reolink app and use it as a trigger for your HA automation.
I bought a couple of these after doing quite a bit of research. The field of view is VERY narrow, so much so that I returned them. From the wall of my house, the camera could not capture the whole width of fence at the back of my garden. Other than that they are very good cameras, but if you planning to cover say a whole garden, then they're useless.
Have they fixed any of the issues yet? Or still same issues?
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Hello! Nice review. Does this camera have privacy mask so you can mask certain areas you dont wanna see? What about that you mark certain areas and it sends notifications only when it detects movements in marked areas?
Hello, thanks! It sure does have a privacy mask and also has motion zones and that you can use to blank out spots you don't want to receive notifications about. Hope that helps!
Hello ! is it possible to make the camera make noise like a siren?
imagine, in case I receive a notification on my cell phone that someone is breaking into my property, I put the siren on through the App for the person to escape.. is it possible on rlc 810 A?
Great video and a camera I'm considering. Are you able to tell me what the Aruba product is that you have it plugged into, please? EDIT Or the Reolink NVR you may or may not be using too? Cheers!
Thanks! It's a an Aruba 3810m, but yes I also have an RLN-410 - either approach works well depending what you want to get out of it!
So can i just use this camera without a pc/dvr/nvr for A.I persons and vehicles detection ? I don't want to record videos, just to gett notification! And you know if it work with Alexa ? Thx
You can do that yes! I'm unsure on Alexa, I never tried it personally sorry.
What's the range on the AI Motion Detection during the day and night?
yea the talk and talk but forget the real deal ai motion thats the most importent here i hate this !!
Am looking for a camera. Will this integrate with Home Assistant?
Thank you for the video.
If i understood your review correctly, the RLC-511 camera has a better nicht vision than the RLC-B810a. I´m a bit surprised.
Could you please confirm that? Thanks
I'd say the RLC-810a night vision is better but still suffers from auto exposure issues IMO
Would you recommend this (the RLC-810a) over the 5MP Zoom cameras (RLC-511 or RLC-522) or would it depend on use-case?
Definitely would depend on your usecase and how much you actually need to be able to see, I'd say you'll probably get better clarity from the 5MP zoom but you'll need to be zoomed all the way in to make use of that. Also you'll lose the AI features (if that matters to you). Consider the FoV too.
I have the 511 and the zoom feature to me is worth more than the 4k. If you have a specific area you wish to monitor that is some distance from the camera, I'll take zoom every time. It is 5mp too, not 1810p, as suggested (2560x1920). Frame rate is higher too. My first unit leaked after about 8 months. Reolink swapped it out without quibble. They have been good trying to sort out a mobile data streaming issue too.I record to FTP. The hardware and software is pretty solid.
I bought the rlc-810a and the issue I am having is flaring with the night vision. I say flaring as opposed to smearing because the camera is showing a streak across the entire viewing area all through the night. It looks to me more like sun flare on a camera lens. Reolink's support suggests I change the settings for anti-smearing and to turn off 3d-nr but that does not help. Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
Thanks for your review. 1 question, regarding video bitrate is there any big differences (video quality) between 6144kbps and 8192kbps ?
Thanks for watching! I didn't notice a difference in quality from what I could tell!
@@EverythingSmartHome Thank you sir
Very good video. Thank you. a question please: regarding RLC-810A, can you talk to someone at the door via the app and this camera?
Thanks! No unfortunately this doesn't have a 2 way microphone, it's one way only.
The RLC-811a has two-way audio.
I heard that Reolink Home Assistant integration is under development. I would love to have the person/vehicle detection the RLC-810A offers, directly into HA without any workarounds.
That would be excellent!
"Justed wanted to know your thoughts" ... Yeah, they didn't ask for a video, but good bet.😁 I'm intrigued by these, but want some sort of standard to get the AI notification info out, to my own setup, not depending on reolink for the core security system software
Maybe check out my DIY solution 😅
Do you happen to know the minimum focus distance of the RLC-810A. Also does the camera have a digital zoom feature?
Hello! I do not know about the minimum focus distance unfortunately sorry! It does have a digital zoom feature though yes!
Reolink have released the RLC-811A which features 2 way audio, 4k res and an optical zoom
They have indeed! 😁
how many cameras could i connect to the router at once? This is a gift and i want to see how well they do without the NVR first. i know the router has 4 ports. Would it support 3 cameras?
It's hard to say without knowing your router but yes in theory it should
Can it do 24 hour recording on the SD card? Thanks
How would you rate the accuracy of the vehicle detection? I use Eufy and wish they had vehicle detection and while the person detection is good it's far from perfect since it can miss events especially if the infrared lights are on.
Pretty good from my testing!
Does this camera have the spider web issue? I have RLC-410's and spiders seem to love the Infrared LED's and build webs over the shade portion of the camera. My Hikvision 4k Turret cameras don't have this issue.
If you mount cameras quite high, it does become a bit of a nuisance.
Hmm it's entirely dependent on your environment I'm guessing, I would suspect that the bullet ones will probably be easier for webs to form on because of their shape but just a total guess really!
Can this camera current firmware interface with NodeRed when detecting people/vehicle, some HTTP hook? MQTT? Obviously they send push notifications to Android app. Some kind of gateway maybe?
Yeah you would hope so, I haven't looked into it much but I don't think so at the moment
Do you know if this camera supports Blue Iris software?
They do indeed since they support ONVIF and RTSP!
Nice review, shame about the lack of auto exposure, deal breaker for me sadly.
Thanks!
Great video. Does the camera allow for continuous recording on the SD-Card or is a separate NVR/FTP server still needed for this?
Thanks! It does indeed allow SD card recording AFAIK!
can i use them over my own wifi to my phone without nvr ??? tnx for great demo/info
Sure can, they have an SD card slot!
@@EverythingSmartHome TNX... have a nice day
Any difference in RLC-800 and RLC 810 other than AI?
I'm not sure sorry I haven't tested the RLC-800 but doesn't look like it
Has anyone got this working with HomeKit secure video?
So the cemare camera records to the sd card only as long as the AI is detecting an objcet? It seems 32GB would more than enough. What do you think?
You can record 24/7 if you want to also.
@@EverythingSmartHome but that's not what I want. Do you think 32GB is enough for detection based recording? To me it seems a lot of 30sec videos can be recorded on 32GB :)
I'm disappointed you didn't do a night time test in color by turning off the IR. My 511 is fantastic at night with the IR turned off.
I tried it, there was literally nothing visible, this is a very dark place at night 😅
Have they fixed the over exposure issue yet?
Yes in the new camera but haven't revisited this one yet to see if exposure is fixed via firmware. Hopefully can check soon
@@EverythingSmartHome you mean it is fixed in an other model? and what is that? thank you
@@EverythingSmartHome I'm not sure if you are saying that this was fixed in a newer HW version of the RLC-810A, and maybe also in firmware updates, or what?
Please post all of your exact settings, because I have not seen 1 video of this camera that you can read a plate past 50 ft. :)
50ft is nothing for this camera, even the older 1080p camera can do that. If your talking about US plates however, maybe you guys have smaller plates than we do in the UK. But yeah, if you can't get 15m from this then your doing something wrong. I'm using default settings, max resolution, 25fps and 6144kbps stream rate as mentioned in the video.
@@EverythingSmartHome I have seen 15-18 meters, but anything past that is useless. I don't get how you are 25 meters+ and it even readable at all. You can search for yourself, Look at lifehacksters video, he did all 3 and after 50 they are ALL useless, yet you seem to get 25+...I don't get it.
You cannot compare them. He's using a US style plate which is significantly different to the UK plate. Plus he didn't do any zooming in in post (not a criticism just explaining) - once it got passed a certain point I did some zooming because it's not easy to see on a small display. Not doing any enhancement to the video, just a simple zoom like you could do at home.
Any idea if 266 will be supported by this camera in the future?
Hey Michael, what do you mean by 266?
@@EverythingSmartHome new compression standard coming out this year. I guess it's more of support of NVR
Ah yeah I would highly doubt it, many of the compression algorithms require hardware implementation in order to do the processing in a timely manner so I imagine since it's not released yet and only just finalised a few months ago that it will require new hardware a couple of years down the line, I think it'll probably be a fair while before we see it trickle down to any cameras given how long it's taken to see HEVC implementation
@Everything Smart Home: Thank you for making and sharing this video.
I have a few questions.
1) Is it true that you can only get AI detection on the app and not a PC?
2) Can you zoom in?
3) Can the night footage show color?
I have just installed 4 of the 810a's today.
A few things, how is the SD card slot used and accessed ?
Nothing in manual on that.
Also having lots of issues with reolink client, latest version they forgot to add the play pause button on the playback !, the slightly older version would not connect to cameras. I have a third version which is older still which reolink sent, this does work but buggy.
I got an NVR at same time as the cameras,
The tech support is good but software is not the best, both in firmware on NVR and via the client on mobile apps. Lots of silly things that shows it was a bit cobbled together.
Hello! The SD card is accessed via a slot in the back, 2 screws to remove the little cover.
I didn't have any issues with the Reolink client on this particular camera, but I have with a different camera which is now fixed. Have you tried the latest 8.2.0 just released?
@@EverythingSmartHome Sorry, did not make myself clear on sd card. How do you access it to store / playback video ( I have NVR system).
No I have not seen that version of client. I have 8.1.28 which had no pause or selection of playback. 8.1.19 which would not connect to cameras and using at present 8.1.18. Just found out since I made comment that 8.1.18 you cannot control the IR led's, says it does but does not. I have to use mobile app for that. I will see if I can find 8.2.0 on reolink site.
ok, just found 8.2 client, that seems to work on playback and the IR lights, need to have a proper look in morning. Thanks for heads up on this.
I have 4 and have the latest filmware i still get a couple of false notifications at night could be flying bugs I thought this would definitely not happen have you experience this
Hey Tom, I did not experience that but could be because of the different environment. What do your recordings show, just bugs? Have you tried adjusting the sensitivity?
@@EverythingSmartHome no its still crap its picking up cobwebs as we speak and sending me notifications i can see the cobwebs now that’s pathetic thats not good i have it on 38 sensitivity
You have unselected "any motion" right?
@@EverythingSmartHome of course yes only selected human I don’t want any other push notifications only human
@@EverythingSmartHome wow if it picks up cobwebs on human only selected whats it going to do when it rains heavy notifications left right and centre
And... what about NAS video storage? can it load the recording on the LAN NAS?
Hello, sorry I don't quite understand the question
@@EverythingSmartHome sorry for my bad english! Can the camara use a NAS as a video storage??
Ah yes sorry they sell a NAS or you can use RTSP or ONVIF and record to storage that way. Hope that helps!
@@EverythingSmartHome I should use a onvif software on the nas. Maybe it can upload the video by ftp or smb
It might sound daft but is the image better direct from the SD card/NVR as watching via the app the picture isn't the best! Certainly not as good as I'd expect when I bought a 4k camera
I would say the recorded image is better yes, are you toggling the stream quality inside the app? The default is low
@@EverythingSmartHome I have it set to high with bit rates etc as default.
Whatever the clips function does always goes to low, but can't either figure out how to change that or even what is function is apart from zooming in
Oh yeah, wouldn't recommend recording on the phone using low, that will be a bad time!
@@EverythingSmartHome it's recording on the inbuilt sd card.
I'm presuming the footage visible in the app is lesser quality but if you download the file it would be like watching the footage from the SD card.
That is correct yes it should download the file from the SD Card
Is there a cloud subscription?
No subscription at all 👍
Has REOlink mentioned that they are working on the night vision exposure issues? This seems like a deal breaker for me.
Unfortunately I haven't heard or seen anything in afraid!
Their newest 12 megapixel camera seems to have the night vision fixed. Don't know if it's the firmware or the hardware that's changed
Good to know, I've got one I need to get around to reviewing so can't wait to see! Thanks!
I want to know if this reolink model continues to give false notifications in the arrest of people and vehicles?
Sorry I'm not sure I understand the question?
The 810a has a new firmware update to dramatically improve the vehicle and person detection, to stop giving false alarms.
support.reolink.com/hc/en-us/articles/900003792966-11-26-2020-Firmware-for-RLC-510A-RLC-520A-RLC-810A-RLC-820A-IPC-523128M-
@@danlat1415 I want to know if the RLC-810A camera model corrected the problem of false notifications when it detects movement because when it rains it is a disaster of false notifications
@@EverythingSmartHome I want to know if the RLC-810A camera model corrected the problem of false notifications when it detects movement because when it rains it is a disaster of false notifications
@@joseperez-kh6sp when the RLC-810a was first released it did have that problem, but Reolink support worked on this due to complaints and it was fixed in a firmware update. They now claim it's 95-99% accurate and will keep being tested and improved with further updates
Just got the 511 2 days ago. It won't play back on the app
That's weird, what does it say?
Thanks for the reply. It does the loading Circle and then times out after 15 seconds. I tried to see if there was a update but it just takes me to the folder menu. This is the 511 w
should review their 12MP camera.
Incoming!
by chance, do you have the 12mp? i am looking at the RLC-1220A
@@blackhouse7646 they removed it. shit image sensor and 4:3 aspect ratio was undesirable so they killed it. wasn't a good 12MP.
@@blackhouse7646 I do indeed, hopefully won't be long before I get round to it
@@mobgma so what did you go for? I want to get a good system
Night vision I'm like meeehhhhhh idk if that is reliable? also fps is kinda low?
I guess that's only a decision you can make based on what your criteria is! I don't agree FPS is low though really, many cameras max out at 15 or 20. Most TV programs are filmed in 24fps 😜
@@EverythingSmartHome if u watch 13:10 of this video: th-cam.com/video/rFRntrwgT7Y/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=digiblurDIY , he goes thru the process of turning off the ir and playing with some settings to overcome the problem with the ir u spoke about. thoughts? interesting point about fps tho!
Video has continuous buffer at 10m number plate test
Not sure what you mean sorry?
I hate their low light sensors 😔
Noch wireless option, that sucks. I need human and car ai detection, but i dont want to install extra wires to my house
I'm guessing there will be a wireless one soon!
@@EverythingSmartHome youre guessing or you knowing something? ;) For me its important because i need ai detection now. so should i wait for wifi ai cameras or do i need to buy some seperate access points with poe?!
@@rene9383 a WiFi version of the 810A is not currently in their timeline. It would be at least mid-2021 before any announcement, then further 3-4 months for release, so will be end of 2021
Algorithm.
Password = password :)
Huh? 😅
@@EverythingSmartHome The password you set for the cameras, it's 'password' #NerdAlert
Haha yes, that's the default!
I got mounted an 810a Reolink and a chinese Panamalar, guess what? Except for the fact that 810a is filming 4k and comes without a charger, is useless.
Between chinese camera and reolink 810a there is no difference, cause doesn't make the difference between a bush a cat a car and a human.
So give as a real information, a real review, properly made.
No, I don't recomand 810a or Reolink, we can use also chinese cameras😅, do the same thing and they come with a charger and are a lot cheaper
What the heck are you talking about? 😂 You do know that Reolink is Chinese right...?
I hate Reolink! For a long time the PC client would not display any videos. Then the finally fix it and dump flash. Now, when you run your client from external to your home you are screwed. Why? because they do not allow you to add a port to your domain name. This means if you have to do port forwarding (like pretty much everyone has to do) you are screwed again!
I can view the video from the camera for any location outside of my home network (external WiFi or cellular connection) without any issues.
The Reolink client app & PC software, as well as the camera's firmware have all been updated recently due to Reolink removing the need for Flash Player due to Flash Player being discontinued from the end of December 2020.
Make sure you update the camera firmware, your phone app (if on phone) or PC software to the latest versions.
@@danlat1415 I got it fixed thanks do Reolink support. I had to create two port forwarding rules per camera. One for port 9000 and one for port 80. It all work now!
@@Adi-S dont EVER fucking port forward anything to anything. you did not write that firmware, so why do you trust it´s most likely lacking security? if you want to remotely do anything at home, use a vpn or tools like teamviewer etc.
@@majstealth I have been in IT for over 30 years and trust me, I know what I do. There no need to use the "F" word.
You cannot substitute port forwarding with a VPN or TeamViewer. You can use a VPN, but you still need to port to your internal device. TeamViewer is something completely different.
@@Adi-S so tell me, what do you want to port forward? how many cascaded routers are we talking? the only port forwarding that should exist is into a dmz, that´s it
Reolink equals GARBAGE! I have a 8 camera Reolink (REOLINK 4K Security Camera System), (16CH NVR with 3TB HDD RLK16-810B8-A). Using PoE IP Kit Cameras RLC-810A. Wish I never purchased this system. 4K cameras? I doubt it! Maybe 2K at best. I also had one camera fail completely in under 6 months. Bottom line....I can't even see vehicle license plates clearly at less than 50 feet away from cameras.
My very old Q-See QT534-4E4-5 4 Channel Full D1 Surveillance System with 4-960H/700TVL Cameras had better resolution.
These "paid" TH-cam reviewers should be ashamed of themselves.
What would you advise instead?