Another good upgrade is to use the dual-heatpipe heatsink from the T480 version that has a secondary GPU. You will need to put a little foam onto the heatsink plate that usually covers the secondary GPU so it doesn't short out the unused contacts on the motherboard, but the cpu plate fits like the single-heatpipe version and then you'll have almost double the cooling capacity. I did this upgrade and it worked very well, keeping the cpu much cooler with much less fan speed since the higher capacity heatsink is only cooling the cpu and not both the cpu and gpu.
Agreed, dual heat-pipe cooler with PTM7950 brings the temps down by around 25C, leaving room for raising the PL2 limit to 35W and PL1 to 30W, all while staying below 84C to prevent silicon degradation. And also undervolting is important for getting more performance per watt - but it can only be done on BIOS version 1.26 or lower, so you should download that and enable BIOS downgrades in the BIOS settings
Why do you open the Thinkpad T480 from the front? The clips in the area between the hinges have to be loosened first, then the clips on the side. Once that is done, the bottom cover should come right off. The clips on the front should not be pried up, they simply unlock when the bottom cover is removed. When closing the chassis, the clips on the front need to be re-engaged one after the other before tightening the screws - otherwise, the chassis may not close correctly.
@5:53, you have put the PTM to the PCH of the Intel. It does not need thermal paste. Applying the PTM you are going to trasnfer heat FROM the Heat sink TO the PCH !!! Most people confuse that little chip as the IGPU, but it is not!
@@TechThusiast Yeah, the smaller die doesn't produce that much heat. Applying thermal paste will transfer heat from the bigger die onto the smaller one It didn't come with any thermal paste from the factory
@@TechThusiast thanks. quote from reddit thread you mentioned. "And if you're fine with 14" I'd recommend T480s instead of T480. No TN screens, no i3s, better build quality, more compact, and you will have only one battery to care about. It is 57Wh whereas T480 has 24+24Wh if extenal is not an extended battery. And external batteries on T480/T580 a huge pain in the butt all the time. " as he pointed out having two batteries is big problem? can not use T480/T580 with only one battery? unfortunate if i can not find spare battery can i run these machines without any battery(just plug in to AC)?
@@2DAnimax I have 2 batteries in my T480 and i think it's a BIG luxuary: you can hot swap the removable battery without having to turn off your computer + longer battery life. My T480 has been running flawlessly for 5 years already Reddit is a bad source of information.
@@tegathemenace The i7 doesn't deliver that much performance compared to the i5-8350U but draws a lot more battery power. I have 16gb of ram, an i5-8350U and a 2TB nvme SSD and it's working great for darktable and blender.
@@JacobD. I'm sorry for bothering you again but I'm considering buying One myself to learn graphic design would it be good choice for me to run adobe apps " I don't have a great budget"
@@YouCefgames unless you're comfortable with manually upgrading this laptop yourself, it'd be best to look for something else, as this laptop doesn't have great color accuracy by default, but if that's something not super important, this is a great laptop
@@aungs8430 Any real claims to back this up? Oem's like dell claimed this with pre-skylake laptops and specifically stopped their coldplate's coverage at the CPU (the remaining heatpipe literally just floats above a naked PCH). Lenovo doesn't do this but you can clearly see on any t480 disassembly that the stock paste is deliberately applied to the PCH with coldplate real estate meant to contact the chip. Even if you didn't apply paste it will still make contact with the PCH due to how the cooler's mounted. Dell's 2018 XPS has awful EGPU throttling because they left the PCH naked. As for the CPU soaking the cooler and "leaking" a lot of excess heat onto the PCH that simply isn't true, PCH temps on my T480 never exceed 57c, below whats needed to cause throttling and dramatically lower than the max 100c needed to cause damage. The only freebie I'll give up is my testing is flawed as I don't have an EGPU enclosure handy to fully max out the thunderbolt bandwidth.
The last great thinkpad getting the right treatment
Another good upgrade is to use the dual-heatpipe heatsink from the T480 version that has a secondary GPU. You will need to put a little foam onto the heatsink plate that usually covers the secondary GPU so it doesn't short out the unused contacts on the motherboard, but the cpu plate fits like the single-heatpipe version and then you'll have almost double the cooling capacity. I did this upgrade and it worked very well, keeping the cpu much cooler with much less fan speed since the higher capacity heatsink is only cooling the cpu and not both the cpu and gpu.
Yea saw a video on that
What's the FRU part number for that?
I recommend upgrading to dual heat-pipe for even lower temps
Agreed, dual heat-pipe cooler with PTM7950 brings the temps down by around 25C, leaving room for raising the PL2 limit to 35W and PL1 to 30W, all while staying below 84C to prevent silicon degradation. And also undervolting is important for getting more performance per watt - but it can only be done on BIOS version 1.26 or lower, so you should download that and enable BIOS downgrades in the BIOS settings
That's a good suggestion, maybe in the future
Wow that's impressive
@@one_step_sideways my ninja
@one_step_sideways can the bios downgrade able to do any damage to the ssd??
First off, good video but the thermal pads seems unnecessary i belive just replace the thermal paste by a good quality one will do the trick!
Why do you open the Thinkpad T480 from the front? The clips in the area between the hinges have to be loosened first, then the clips on the side. Once that is done, the bottom cover should come right off. The clips on the front should not be pried up, they simply unlock when the bottom cover is removed. When closing the chassis, the clips on the front need to be re-engaged one after the other before tightening the screws - otherwise, the chassis may not close correctly.
Thanks
Best upgrades for any Laptop.I recently got the P53 with a T1000 GPU and a i7 9850H.
Nice
The greatest technician that ever lived😂
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@5:53, you have put the PTM to the PCH of the Intel. It does not need thermal paste.
Applying the PTM you are going to trasnfer heat FROM the Heat sink TO the PCH !!!
Most people confuse that little chip as the IGPU, but it is not!
The smaller die on the CPU shouldn't have any thermal paste
They originally didn't ship with any, someone probably repasted it before you
Are you sure?
@@TechThusiast Yeah, the smaller die doesn't produce that much heat. Applying thermal paste will transfer heat from the bigger die onto the smaller one
It didn't come with any thermal paste from the factory
@@TechThusiast yes he's correct. google it. PCH doesn't get very hot.
which one you recommend
1. T480, i5-8250U, 8GB ,256GB SSD, FHD IPS - 260USD / 16GB for 282USD
2.T480 i7-8550U, 16GB , 512GB Nvme,FHD 1080P - 328USD
3.T580 i5-8350U,8GB,256GB SSD,FHD IPS (1920 x 1080) - 298USD
4.T580 i7-8550U,8GB,256GB Nvme,FHD IPS (1920 x 1080) Touch - 328USD
Don't have a T580 but this may help www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/157vz9o/t480_vs_t580/
@@TechThusiast thanks.
quote from reddit thread you mentioned.
"And if you're fine with 14" I'd recommend T480s instead of T480. No TN screens, no i3s, better build quality, more compact, and you will have only one battery to care about. It is 57Wh whereas T480 has 24+24Wh if extenal is not an extended battery. And external batteries on T480/T580 a huge pain in the butt all the time. "
as he pointed out having two batteries is big problem? can not use T480/T580 with only one battery?
unfortunate if i can not find spare battery can i run these machines without any battery(just plug in to AC)?
@@2DAnimax I have 2 batteries in my T480 and i think it's a BIG luxuary: you can hot swap the removable battery without having to turn off your computer + longer battery life.
My T480 has been running flawlessly for 5 years already
Reddit is a bad source of information.
@@2DAnimax t480 i7 if you're not doing very light tasks.
Don't buy the t490. Looses upgradeability
@@tegathemenace The i7 doesn't deliver that much performance compared to the i5-8350U but draws a lot more battery power. I have 16gb of ram, an i5-8350U and a 2TB nvme SSD and it's working great for darktable and blender.
why are you using a thermal pad as the interphase between the die and the cooler? Wouldn't something like MX-4 or NT-H2s be better?
Ptm7950 is supposed to be very good and last a very long time
@@TechThusiast Ok got it, how are the thermals now?
I have a touchscreen too. I love t480.
Nice.
Awesome. Pretty straightforward tutorial. OT, How did you upgrade to windows 11 on the t480?
From a bootable usb
I got 4200 pts Cinebench R23 on my thinkpad T480 with PTM 7950
i might buy one to replace my t440p
Why do you disable the internal battery? You kind of just told us to it, and i don't know if i should since i don't know why i'm doing it.
In case you accidentally turn the laptop on
@@TechThusiast thank you, i'm obviously not a technician in any way 🤣
@painstaking5685 you're welcome
No one is talking about the cpu and gpu of the laptop. Are they upgradeable? Because I've just brought one.
Don't think they can be upgraded
No GPU, CPU is soldered and cannot be upgraded
4:14 what about those 2 small pads near the fan? They don't need to be replaced?
No
Hi. Can i change my battery from 61+ thick battery to 61 slim?
The first time I bought mine its on 61+ thick battery.
External battery?
Is this good for rendering and gaming?
Maybe some old game and basis editing
Hey, I'm bit confused, some sources say that some variants of t480 have m2.2280 slot ?
I didn't know that
Can you overclock CPU in this laptop?
no, only K and HK intel mobile cpus are able to be overclocked
@@JacobD. Thank you
@@JacobD. I'm sorry for bothering you again but I'm considering buying One myself to learn graphic design would it be good choice for me to run adobe apps " I don't have a great budget"
@@YouCefgames unless you're comfortable with manually upgrading this laptop yourself, it'd be best to look for something else, as this laptop doesn't have great color accuracy by default, but if that's something not super important, this is a great laptop
@@JacobD. Thank you sir have a great day 😊
Thanks.
You're welcome
Alguien me confirma si lo que le puso al procesador es mejor que la vieja y confiable pasta térmica?
I would also like to know why they chose a thermal pad over thermal paste here
It's supposed to have better heat transfer
Good video! But FYI, you shouldn't apply PTM7950 on the PCH.
hello just wondering, Why?
@@NabilDaDon The PCH itself does not overheat, the heat from the heatsink could damage it.
@@aungs8430 Any real claims to back this up? Oem's like dell claimed this with pre-skylake laptops and specifically stopped their coldplate's coverage at the CPU (the remaining heatpipe literally just floats above a naked PCH). Lenovo doesn't do this but you can clearly see on any t480 disassembly that the stock paste is deliberately applied to the PCH with coldplate real estate meant to contact the chip. Even if you didn't apply paste it will still make contact with the PCH due to how the cooler's mounted. Dell's 2018 XPS has awful EGPU throttling because they left the PCH naked.
As for the CPU soaking the cooler and "leaking" a lot of excess heat onto the PCH that simply isn't true, PCH temps on my T480 never exceed 57c, below whats needed to cause throttling and dramatically lower than the max 100c needed to cause damage. The only freebie I'll give up is my testing is flawed as I don't have an EGPU enclosure handy to fully max out the thunderbolt bandwidth.
5:26
Yeah I do not recommend using thermal pads at all
Why not?
Oh a random guy on the internet advises against using thermal pads for reasons unknown, better take heed.