I just got a T480s a week ago for about $150 on Amazon, looks so new that I only knew it was actually used by anyone from checking battery cycles. I have two much more powerful laptops but I've been daily using this one since I got it. I put Linux Mint on it and TLP + undervolt and battery lasts forever, it barely sips power. Typing this comment currently shows me draining 4 watts with 8:50 remaining at 64% battery. The fan never comes on with normal usage unless I run a benchmark. I just bought a screen upgrade and glass trackpad from aliexpress. Had no idea my favorite tech of this year would be an old laptop.
can i reach you out?, currently im using t480 on Linux Mint also, but I haven't figured it out yet how to optimize the battery on linux, thanks in advance
after watching thinkpad videos, i bought a thinkpad and it’s coming on wednesday. it’s an x1 carbon 16gb i got for $180 and i plan to get more in the future.
man, if I found a thin laptop with factory installed 16gb ram this price I would buy it even though I don't need a laptop, and I'm assuming the specs aren't so bad, probably can be used for moderate productivity
I have owned ThinkPads for decades (even when they were IBM) and they are amazing computers. Rugged, expandable, reliable, fantastic keyboards and worth every penny. Of late they have been messing around with the formula but I hope this will be short lived. ThinkPads are for people who need to get things done, simple as that.
I think that Framework is gonna eat a lot of the market that the Thinkpad had/has. I have also owned a lot of IBM/Lenovo hardware through the years, but boy there isn't much Thinkpad DNA in the devices as of late. But the fun thing is that Thinkpads, which have always been the most expensive devices have overflooded the market in such a degree that they are the absolute best bang for your buck second hand. I got an almost mint T480s for 240 USD with 1 year of warranty from the vendor.
Congratulations, now every new laptop's keyboard is going to feel like shit to you, and the only way to ease that itch is to get an actually old old ThinkPad.
@@theryanthomas YEP, the last non-chiclet would be X220 or T420. Being the owner of X30, X40T, X230, I can assure you the best keyboard ever is the old ones. Even there are people that 'convert' their X230 keyboard into X220 and it's not an easy swap, not just the case but also the keyboard controller chip.
as a student using a T480S for my school work this laptop is so perfect for my work im worried if i will ever find a replacment for this perfect machine it has every port u can wish one of the best keyboard on a windows 11 capable machine and surprisingly impressive batterylife i have the maxed out varient with the i7 8650u and 16gb ram gaming is fine and i can agree this laptop is unbeatable
Can any of you guys please recommend the best Thinkpad for productivity as I plan to learn video editing on it, my total budget will be around 400-500$ for my total setup (Thinkpad and a mouse)
I was in urgent need of laptop but didn't want to cost much on. Then I found your previous T480s video. After watching your video, I immediately got myself a used T480s too early this year for like 150 bucks. Then I replaced glossy keyboard then worn touchpad to a glass one. I also added ram and m.2 ssd. It still works perfect in 2024 and serves me really well so far. Shout out to your work. Thank you.
Six year old is “old”? My X220 from 2011 still runs Win10 and will do until next year, when I’m going to put Linux on it. It has 8GB of ram and two internal SSDs, so still very capable of doing normal “consumer” tasks: TH-cam, email, text, news, etc. It is, admittedly, held together with tape in places, but enough memory and an IPS screen upgrade help it stay usable. Roll on, Thinkpads.
😂 watching this video on a Lenovo Thinkpad T420 with 8gb ram and 100 GB SATA SSD and yeah you're right bro for normal consumer tasks it definitely works. Using tiny 11 windows version on the non Nvidia Optimus variant.
@@Paul--Nobody_Is_Out_To_Get_You Full size minipcie slot usually meant for a WWAN (cell data) module, that most don't have anyway. It also accepts mSATA SSDs.
I bought a 2015 X1 Carbon for cheap during the pandemic, it was soo light but capable. I recently switched to a T14 and gave the X1 to someone else who is in school. They appreciated that even for a 2015 laptop it can keep up with most tasks and very light and portable. Thinkpads really are a good deal, especially after they're already used by office workers/accountants lol (currently using an L480 at work too). I recommended 2nd hand Thinkpads to friends and family who just want a rugged laptop that can last for a while and for cheap. And it didn't disappoint them either.
I bought a thinkpad during lockdown as my mac had gone kaput - still going strong for writing, browsing etc just as you said. Totally agree about the keyboard!
I recently got the Lenovo Thinkpad T495 for school and work and my god ive literally fallen in love with that thing. It can even do some decent gaming if you play less demanding games like minecraft or stardew valley. Honestly if you're on a budget and looking for a good laptop you can't go wrong with the old thinkpads.
Watching on my T480. Same i5 chip and it is beyond solid. I bought mine off ebay without ram so went for 16gb and upgraded the base screen to a 1080 for not much money thanks to ebay and ali express. I love the machine and it's been a solid workhorse for me in a similar way you discuss here. Mine is the slightly less slim model but it has even more battery. Completely a recommend for anyone that is okay with used and is willing to do minor fixing. This machine has the best idle battery life with lid shut I've seen as well.
ThinkPad is one of the most solid build laptop. I have seen this device used by my college IT and Eng'g professors. Also, I have seen IT professionals still using it in the field.
i've done this a few times, ive learned from r/thinkpad that if you take a polish or even some simplegreen and a magic eraser, you can scrub the top carefully and it will make it look like new.
I’m a big fan of the ThinkPad. I have an old X380 Yoga - and it’s been great so far. It’s really well built, with fantastic keyboard feel. I also use a newer L15 for work. Many, many moons ago I went for a job at IBM’s Greenock plant, to design Thinkpads - at the time the great Richard Sapper was their design consultant, and I just thought they were very, very cool laptops. Sadly I didn’t get the job, but I did get hooked on that black and red laptop design!
Yep back in 2020 picked up a T450s for $200. As a backup to my Surface Pro 6. Now daily driver is a 2021 M1 14" Macbook Pro picked up a year ago next month at a great savings in monies. As don't need the latest and greatest shiny new. The Surface Pro 6 has died 5.5yrs in now. But my Thinkpad T450s still rocking and regulated to emergency backup and moved to my electronics/hobbyist bench for my Pi,Andurino,esp32 projects. And with 2 batteries with one swap-able makes for a great little tho long in the tooth workhorse.
I went the crazy route... on my T480 I replaced the screen for a FullHD one, the keyboard has been switched for one with LED backlight, the SSD has been replaced with a 1TB variant from Crucial and the RAM has been switched out for 32GB of Corsair Vengeance DDR4 🤣
I bought my brother a used ThinkPad A485 and it’s been flawless for him in school. It originally came with 8GB of ram and I upgraded it to 16GB. The Ryzen 3 in it is slower by today’s standards, but it’s been riding along just fine on Windows 11. 2 batteries and built like a tank, he has no complaints
I was a bench tech and later supervisor for a subcontractor that built the IBM ThinkPad in the 1990s. Like all of our IBM projects, it was well designed and easy to build. We made thousands of them. The pointing stick was the only weak point, as I recall. It was not designed to move, but in normal use would sometime break off the PC board. I think it got redesigned when Lenovo took over the product.
I have a 4 year old T460 and a 3 year old T480 that get used daily. The T480 has and i7 with 32GB of RAM and a 1TB NvME drive that is loaded with Linux Mint. The 460 has an i7 with 20GB of RAM and a 512GB NvME drive with Ubuntu. Both are incredible machines that have taken everything I toss at it and just rocked it. I highly recommend the ThinkPad as a work or personal powerhouse. I also have a 16" P53 with 32GB of RAM and a 1TB NvME drive with Windows 11, and I use that as a gaming machine. Gotta love Lenovos.
I used Thinkpad T480. My wife Thinkpad X230, My sister Thinkpad X230, My Nephew Thinkpad X270 - some my friend also use Thinkpad. even almost of all them bought that laptops as second, but still work smoothly
I am daily-driving a Legion i5 as a desktop pc (for financial reasons) and I don't plan to sell my old Thinkpad E430. It's already 11 years old, but with an SSD & Battery replacement and a fresh cleaning it's the perfect companion for college and the work office.
Just came across this Video randomly. Actually watching this on a second hand t480 with a i7 8650-U and 16GB of RAM, i own it for over 2 weeks now and i love it! At first i wanted something more modern like a macbook or even a newer windows laptop but then i came across the whole thinkpad "cult" 😆 And immediately knew this would be the perfect thing for me, because my main Computer is more than powerful enough to handle my needs (video, and photoediting, gaming etc.) Currently trying the limits of this Thinkpad but the only "mayor" issue i came across was the battery life, but like you said in your video it is really easy to swap out the internal battery. but mine has the external batteries aswell so i might order 2 of these and then i am more than good to go when i am on the go and editing photos or browsing the web!
@@thadrumr I never cared that much about RAM, but even my laptop had 12GB, I always used it with lubuntu. Then it was more than engough for my daily usage. I only stopped using it full time because I started using Docker a lot and then RAM became a more necessary thing. Still, you have to understand that the T440 is a 16 year old computer. How many computers do you think can have that long a useful life?
In the first two years of university I used a Thinkpad w541 which was awesome for everything I needed. I starting doing research and internships and quickly found that I needed more power to run software like ArcGIS as it was PAINFULLY slow on the Thinkpad. I got a Lenovo Pro 9i and it has been an absolute beast for doing any coding/data related tasks I need. 5x the cost but it really feels like 5x the computer. For many other users, older Thinkpads are still just perfect for 98% of use cases.
Got my T480s one month ago and I love it! It runs windows 11 so well. Only thing I don't love that much is the camera and the screen brightness. Would love to hear some recommendations
I bought a 9 year old T450 for uni, and i have been using it for 2 months now, and it's working great! It can do almost anything, browsing, text editing, office, even lightweight games or emulators. With SSD it's pretty fast, boots up in 10-15 secs. Last time I accidentally spilled a glass of water on it's keyboard, but it still works without any issue after drying it up quickly.
My fondest thinkpad memory was finding a 6th gen x1 carbon (i7-8650U, 8gb ram) at my university's bookstore surplus sale. It was 100$ CAD, and the only issue with is was that the 'E' key had come off and they didn't know or didn't bother to try and put it back on. I hadn't even planned to buy a laptop that day, I went in to the shop for some pencils, and left with a new-to-me laptop haha. Killer deal, currently writing this comment on it right now. I plan to hand this one down to my brother as he's entering school soon, and have just ordered myself a top spec Thinkpad X13 gen 2 on ebay. Comes next week, I'm very excited :)
I love my p15s (has the 10th gen i7 so I got a good lesson in throttlestop). If you want something that just works out of the box, avoid the 10th and 11th gen Intel CPUs but if you're not afraid to tinker for a while, you can get a really good deal on a super powerful thinkpad of that generation. With the right tuning, it has insane battery life and even plays modern games while I kill time between programming classes. I can't imagine using another keyboard on a laptop now.
Hey man, are you able to give opinion on this.. I just ordered mine.. T460P. i core i7 6820HQ with geforce 940mx2, 16gb ram 512 ssd Is this pretty good?
I only get a L480 but this thing just gets the job done for my djing gig. Though it's just an i5-8350u, there's no problem running windows 11 and SeratoDJ with it.
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I bought a refurbished dual core Thinkpad t470 about 2 1/2 years ago with 16 gigs of RAM, 256GB SSD drive, and Windows 10 Pro. Knowing it wasn't upgradeable I nuked Windows 10 and installed Linux Mint. It's been my go to laptop in the field ever since. I use it mostly for writing, yes I love the keyboard, surfing the web, watching videos, coding, number crunching spreadsheets, and online meetings. I have a docking station that has a 2nd monitor, a couple of external SSD drives, a logitech webcam, and a Jabra mic/speaker. So all I have to do when I head out is pop it off the docking station and go. I love my t470 set up! My other (MSi) gaming laptop is for editing Photos, video, and music making.
I'm the same, I have 2 T400 they are virtually bomb proof and when you couple them to a dock you have more than enough ports, they may not have a HDMI poert but how often do you use them, and with the dock hooked to a 21" Lenovo screen you can work Doc's easier and videos are way better, with it saveing the 14" screen for when you are working away, with the ability to swap batteries as needed, and swapping out the the original HDD for a SSD gives them a new lease of life.
I use an e-waste yoga x380 for my laptop. My coworker had snagged a bunch of usable computers from the recycling bin and let me take one. I threw Ubuntu onto it and it works great.
I've been using various models of IBM Thinkpads professionally from like the 2000''s. Still have about three early models out of nostalgia. I always loved them as they where robust and always worked. I could work faster with the red joystick than a regular mouse. Later Lenovo took over and I had the first time of a screen failing on me. For those days battery life was really acceptable. Just keep them connected to power whenever possible and they will last you a long time.
Just bought a refurb T490 16 gb/512gb, FHD, backlit kb, W11, and PS for $185 USD. Not a scratch on it. Spent $100 on 16 gb sodimm and fast 1 tb nvme ssd. Re-using the old m.2 sata ssd for portable storage. This thing rips.
I bought a used T570 back in 2021 and it has not let me down. It's super reliant, sturdy and the specs are good. I'll get it updated soon, but overall - that laptop is gonna stick by my side for as long as possible. We're made to believe that new is better and that is proven to not be the case most of the time. And for regular people like me and every other worker, those ThinkPads hit the spot like nothing else.
Had a ThinkPad X1 Carbon back in 2017 from work. Used it for 2 years. Built like a tank. It doesn't have the greatest of specs but as far as reliability is concerned, it is up there.
I'm currently rocking a i7 X1 Yoga Titanium with LTE as my daily driver. Super lightweight, lid made of titanium, 3:2 display with full multitouch and pen support. The only downside is it can get really warm under heavy load with AC plugged.
X220, X230,T430, T440P, W541, T460, T460P, X270, T470, L380 and now T480...hoarding all of them but W541 is my most favorite one. Next target... X1 extreme. All from ebay.
i still have my Lenovo T490 for basic uses even has a good desktop at my house. but im still spend time the laptop more than the desktop. because i do the some thing as you, but except writing scripts. but i do a bit gaming like. minecraft or roblox..and half life too. and general browsing. old or not, this is still very good.
Love my X1 Carbon Gen6 with the 8th Gen i7 CPU. Used it at work for 6 years and bought it from the company at a good price since i upgraded the day job machine to a new Framework 13. The ThinkPad runs Fedora now and is snappy as anything. The keyboard and glass trackpad with dedicated Buttons were peak modern ThinkPad for me.
I bought and repaired an X270 i7 to use as a main laptop in 2022, and I really enjoyed it! All the inputs (keyboard, trackpad, trackpoint) felt great and were very intuitive, port selection was great for daily use, screen was quite sharp (with it being a 1080p 12.5" LCD), and it was very easy to carry around, with it being part of the ultraportable X-line. My favorite feature was definitely Lenovo Power Bridge with the hot-swappable batteries, and I even got a dock for it lol. Unfortunately, earlier this year it suffered a common issue with those models - RAM socket failure (and possibly worse torsion-caused board damage?). Just a forewarning to anyone intending to get an X240-X270... :( I have since gotten a Dell Latitude 7390 (small upgrade, I know) and I think I'd consider Latitudes a good alternative to ThinkPads as well! It's about the same footprint as my X270 but with a larger and nicer screen (it competed with the X380/X390). Though the gen of keyboard my Latitude has is probably the worst one you can get lol (rattly with an uneven backlight) I have still been pretty satisfied with it, and it has a great port selection and repairable build just like the ThinkPad. Actually, I recently replaced the board on the X270 with an i5 board and gave it to my sister! It's still chugging, even though its logic board has been replaced. I think she's been pretty happy with it. In the tech communities I'm active in, I think there's a pretty big consensus that business-decommissioned ThinkPads and Latitudes are great buys for anyone who wants a cheap, solid, and reliable laptop :) Though of course, the ThinkPad is definitely more iconic with its design language and badging
I bought mine E480(cheaper version of t480) with same CPU in 2018. Graduated uni with this machine. I replaced battery couple months ago, added second 8 gb ram stick and swapped hdd to 1 tb m2 ssd like 2 years ago. I thought about selling it and buy something new, but after watching this video I'm gonna stick with it. Thinkpads really a amazing
My first thinkpad was an x260 I bought refurbished for less than $200. I upgraded the screen, maxed out the RAM and put a SSD in it. I later upgraded to a t490s. I still use both laptops. The keyboard on the x260 is the best I've ever used on a laptop.
I got a dell latitude 7390 out of the ewaste at my work with a battery so swollen it had cracked the back cover in two. I excavated the battery glued the back case and popped in a 16gb stick of ram and it has been a fantastic little machine for anything I need!
I'm still using my old E480, it has same spec with your T480s. Due to problem with one of the DIMM slot, i can only use one stick 8GB memory. So i purchased a brand new zenbook for my main programming laptop and my E480 for my home lab.
They're the backbone of any consultacy firm, I've had a few versions of it and they never lost a beat. Great typing machines and general use with excel and ppt. Although I have to say it's insane how expensive a new one can be.
Just bought Thinkpad T480 i5 for $130. Zero issues. I use it for Adobe apps and it doesn't freeze(not tried video editing yet). The CPU rarely gets to 2.0ghz. It has the dual battery that lasts! It also rarely gets hot. As a 3rd worlder I can't express how much I am happy because of it's value for money.
I've been using an old Lenovo X200 Tablet I picked up for $50 10 years ago for work stuff. I recently swapped it over to Linux Mint 22 and it's been brilliant! I also added a 1TB SSD and 2x 4G RAM sticks. It does everything I need it to for work and occassional interweb browsing.
Thinkpads are the Crown Jewel in Lappy Land. I personaly owned a X1 Carbon 3rd Gen which was extremely fast and easy to use, the only downside was the awful battery life and had to get a USB to Rj45 extension cable for internet . Sold it and next one was a Thinkpad T440. Again worked like blazing fast. 101 percent efficient. The only downside being not able to do moderate to heavy graphics. Served me well for around 2 years and later sold it for a decent sum. Next i bought a T480s last year which is the best one in my arsenal. Its a core i5 8th Gen with 16 gigs RAM which i later upgraded to 24 Gigs and added a WD Black M.2 drive which made it awesome fast. The only negative is the built in graphics which is not able to support the heavy graphic intense applications and the screen a bit dull. Though its a very feather like lightweight system which you can easily carry in your backpack and handle like a big notebook in your hands. Sturdy and robust. Easy to upgrade. Go for a Thinkpad dear friends. They are the "RULERS" in lappy land.
Happened to watch this on my now 6 years old TP e585, which is still serving me well in my Networking & Security studies. Which I bought late in high-school as an upgrade to an ancient Compaq I temporarily used after getting annoyed with my school iPad. It was expensive for the early AMD Ryzen specs it has (one of the first TPs with AMD chips), but I got a decent deal from a business reseller clearing out stock in favour of the newer e595. Immediately upgraded the RAM to 16GiB, later expanded the storage, then shrunk it a bit but pooled the two drives. The battery life has been awful from the start, 4 hours of the lightest usage is the maximum, but 6 years in the original battery still is at 89% health. It's been running Linux for all that time, but has been completely reliable, aside from the few times the fan bearing jammed after a bump and prevented it from booting. While the T, P and X series ThinkPads are more prestigious, I am surprised with how well this E series one has held up and have grown a liking to this line too.
my grandma is retiring from working for the government, which she uses a laptop for work. She uses a thunderbolt dock for her two monitors, so that helped me find out that a thinkpad t480 will be perfect for her (besides the model I got has no numpad, but she has a keyboard.) It's actually really similar to yours, the only difference being that half of the ports are on the right side, unlike yours with just a usb on the right, and her's has 16gb of ram and a 512gb ssd. It's refurbed, but it seems perfect lol. Wish I knew to look for thinkpads when buying a laptop two years ago... I spent almost 400 dollars on an acer aspire 5 laptop from "backmarket" and it came with 8gb of ram, 256gb nvme ssd, and a i5 1135g7. I've already upgraded the ram to 24gb by replacing the 4gb stick (since the other 4gb is soldered) with a 16gb stick from crucial, and added an old 500gb laptop hdd to the sata slot, so it's more usable now.
I can agree I also still use a l380 Yoga. I still just love that thing. I Upgraded the ram to 32gb and the ssd to 4Tb and it still performes great even when using multiple vms and docker containers. Haptics on this thing are still a pleasure after all this time and I love the 360 degrees flip option when doing a presentation.
L380 Yoga user here too. I upgraded storage to 4TB and it was a scary tight fit because SSD those sizes are dual sided. My laptop initially didn't find the drive so I reseated it and felt relieved when it was finally detected in BIOS. Currently use it for a Immich and Jellyfin server on Debian 12 plus it acts as a spare laptop for when my kids need to type out assignments all at the same time.
I second that - I managed to pick up an X280 - same generation, smaller form factor, and after using it for a year its been great. I use it as my main computer where I am often running Docker, VMs, web apps, and other daily office software and everything is spot on - across 2 completely different jobs and organizations. Mine has an i7 CPU, 16 GB (unfortunately the X series from X280 are not upgradeable), and I upgrade the M.2 SSD to 1 TB - another USD50 or so. Price point at the time was around USD300. I do run Linux (PopOS) on it rather than Windows which I think extends the mileage a bit, and I am hoping for at least another 1~2 years using it as a primary computer for work, browsing, and occasional play. 0 AD - a free more modern Age of Empires - works well on it. Nice video and great to see older tech get some attention - the new shiney ain't always better.
Picked up an x1 Carbon 7th Gen 16gb 512gb storage for $250 in mint condition. Best windows laptop I've ever owned. Still love my Macbook Pro M2 but this is a perfect side dev laptop.
I just recently got into Thinkpads this year I was originally on an M1 MBP then swapped to a Asus X13 Flow and now I am on the L series platform from Lenovo. I have an L14 with the Ryzen 3 Pro 4450u, 16gb dual channel ram, and a 1 TB SSD. The screen on it is its last upgrade I'm doing on it going from 1366x768 to a 1920x1080P FHD 400 Nitt low power panel. I'll probably bump up the ram to 32GB of ram later on in the future since it is my daily for school and I am honestly digging it already especially for its upgradability. Battery life is decent on it I get average about 6-8 hours on it but I still lowkey miss the life I got with the MacBook.
I’m a former user of Lenovo… worked well at the beginning, but when I moved to a place with damp climate, it fell apart, ports rusty, keys felling off, the screen produced white strips. There are other better options out there, I believe.
I purchased a second-hand T470 a couple of months after I moved back to Australia from Japan last year. After replacing the two batteries (external and internal), increasing the RAM (from 8 to 16 GB), and installing Arch Linux, it's a pretty fun secondary computer to use. I've even done some gaming on it (mostly PC ports of PS3 JRPGs), albeit at 600-720p, thanks to Proton for Steam.
I bought myself a "newer" ThinkPad for my CS degree (circa 2021, 32G ram, 512GB storage) for a bargain compared to similarly-speced machines from different manufacturers. It's worked like a CHARM. It handles any computationally-expensive work I throw at it, and has a pretty solid battery life to boot (I use it with Linux, and it has an AMD chip, which I've heard helps). Could not recommend ThinkPads more.
well i have bunch of rooster older than that thinkpad, everything still going strong daily basis p50 which i use for editing n rendering E430 for simply browsing around and manage my ecommerce acount t440/x260 with dual battery for traveling around (still going strong 6-8 hours in performance setting) those battery can be swaped around x220 the oldest one i have, now used by my employee for administrative work they build to going strong for decade, not falling down after warranty expire, easy to maintenance n upgrade..
I have to agree with you as i have 3, Lenovo desktop (i9-13900k w/rtx4080) , Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Yoga Gen 5 (i5-10210U Intel UHD) , Acer Nitro 17.3" (AMD 5-5600h w/rtx3060) and besides the desktop having the best screen. I LOVE my Thinkpad! I got it used for cheap too.
Long time ThinkPad lifer here. Recently switched to Framework. Not looking back. You should too. I get where you're coming. What you really want is a Framework; probably the 13 inch.
: ) WELL DONE and THANKS MUCH indeed! I have the same model in addition to a couple of older ones : ) I grew up with them at work in the 90's and remember the butterfly keyboard one well. ALL the BEST and Cheers from across the Pond ! : )
I got a T 480 few months ago and i catch some fire with that notebook, it has 16 GB, 256 Gb and the 1.7 Ghz + boost, i use it for my daily workroutine, consuming media and work with media, shure its not the fastest but its ok for me. My Sys is an arch linux and fits with older hardware. The Price was 280 €
I want to talk about driver support. I have used a Dell Inspiron, Microsoft Surface, Acer Nitro and of course a Thinkpad x390. I always had to install Ubuntu on these devices one ways or another. And Thinkpad was the only device when I do not needed to hassle with any driver missing/not working.
Thanks for making the video. One can be surprised how much power older hardware has. (Writing this on a Macbook Pro 15 from 2013, which I do most;...all.. my work on, and it's still quite fast). (Maybe thanks to Tim Cook making quite breakable machines 2015-2020, with almost no ports, maybe a Thinkbook would be the next machine, once the Macbook gives up altogether ).
Personally I use a Thinkpad T440p with Alpine Linux and Sway. Performance: i5-4210M and 8gb of ram along with my old spinning HDD is more then good enough for average use, I might upgrade my components later but I dont feel that I need to Upgradability: I can upgrade everything from CPU to my screen, my screen is good enough (IMO 1366x768 is not a bad resolution) Ports: I have a MicroDP and a VGA port which is more then good enough for my tri monitor setup. In addition four USB ports, an SD card slot, and a DVD reader (I still use DVDs) makes it more then good enough for daily usage (also having a dedicated docking port on the bottom is very nice). Build quality: Truly built like a brick, feels like a brick, I love it BIOS: Its Librebooted, no Intel ME here or absolutely proprietary BIOS to be found (granted I still need to get a wifi adapter that supports libre firmware)
Nice I have one HP Elitebook 840 G6 from around this 480s time and it is a very good machine. Same U8265, 16G ram 24000 and 256giga. Very good. Second hand U$ 275. Nice machine and more than enough for the tasks to be honest.
Hi guys! You all use very new Thinkpads 😂. Mine is T60 - the last one with the IBM logo (love it!) - bought it 2010-11 for 125 EUR😂: win7, 3gb ram, the perfect keyboard, runs youtube and office, etc, very nicely. Thinkpad rulzzz!
I used an off least T61 for years. That was the first year Thinkpad offered a wide screen rather then a 4:3. When it finally died I purchased a T520 for myself and one for my wife a few years later.
The Lenovo X390 Yoga is underrated, too. Very light and slim, great touch screen (with calibration), ok-ish cpu-performance with i7 which is good in this form factor.
I'm watching this video on a mint condition Lenovo Thinkpad X220 from 2011 which I have upgraded with 16GB of RAM and a 500GB Samsung SSD and swapped out the original i5 for the i7-2640M. I also stuck a 3x USB-A ExpressCard into the slot to give me near USB 3.0 speeds and effectively doubles the number of USB ports on the machine. It also sits in the official X220 dock which gives it yet another 4 USB ports, so 10 in total. Oh, and I bought the 9-cell extended battery for it directly from the Lenovo site as well, so it powers on for HOURS when I take it anywhere.
I own a latitude 5490 with almost the exact same specs as your ThinkPad, only difference is that I have 16gb ram and my processor is the 8350u which has vpro. I use LMDE in this machine and it's flawless, nothing I can complain about, it just always works. I bought it 2nd hand almost 2 years ago and still looks mint (pun not intended). I want to upgrade to a ryzen AI ThinkPad soon, but I'm waiting for the P series to get the 300 series AMD as I do want the rj45 port and the upgradeable ram. If those refreshed models don't get upgradeable ram and/or rj45, I'll stick with p14s gen5 amd
I just got a T480s a week ago for about $150 on Amazon, looks so new that I only knew it was actually used by anyone from checking battery cycles. I have two much more powerful laptops but I've been daily using this one since I got it. I put Linux Mint on it and TLP + undervolt and battery lasts forever, it barely sips power. Typing this comment currently shows me draining 4 watts with 8:50 remaining at 64% battery. The fan never comes on with normal usage unless I run a benchmark.
I just bought a screen upgrade and glass trackpad from aliexpress. Had no idea my favorite tech of this year would be an old laptop.
can i reach you out?, currently im using t480 on Linux Mint also, but I haven't figured it out yet how to optimize the battery on linux, thanks in advance
How did you undervolt too?
What are the display options and which one did you choose? I remember there was a 1440p or 4k option
@@piotr8803 iuvolt on linux. Ask chatgpt
@@RayBlaxe install auto-cpufreq it replaces tlp and has much more functions
after watching thinkpad videos, i bought a thinkpad and it’s coming on wednesday. it’s an x1 carbon 16gb i got for $180 and i plan to get more in the future.
You will love it!
That's an awesome deal.
oof thats a goodn..local thing or?
man, if I found a thin laptop with factory installed 16gb ram this price I would buy it even though I don't need a laptop, and I'm assuming the specs aren't so bad, probably can be used for moderate productivity
it will be even better with linux
I have owned ThinkPads for decades (even when they were IBM) and they are amazing computers. Rugged, expandable, reliable, fantastic keyboards and worth every penny. Of late they have been messing around with the formula but I hope this will be short lived. ThinkPads are for people who need to get things done, simple as that.
I think that Framework is gonna eat a lot of the market that the Thinkpad had/has. I have also owned a lot of IBM/Lenovo hardware through the years, but boy there isn't much Thinkpad DNA in the devices as of late.
But the fun thing is that Thinkpads, which have always been the most expensive devices have overflooded the market in such a degree that they are the absolute best bang for your buck second hand. I got an almost mint T480s for 240 USD with 1 year of warranty from the vendor.
Congratulations, now every new laptop's keyboard is going to feel like shit to you, and the only way to ease that itch is to get an actually old old ThinkPad.
😭
@@theryanthomas YEP, the last non-chiclet would be X220 or T420. Being the owner of X30, X40T, X230, I can assure you the best keyboard ever is the old ones. Even there are people that 'convert' their X230 keyboard into X220 and it's not an easy swap, not just the case but also the keyboard controller chip.
as a student using a T480S for my school work this laptop is so perfect for my work im worried if i will ever find a replacment for this perfect machine it has every port u can wish one of the best keyboard on a windows 11 capable machine and surprisingly impressive batterylife i have the maxed out varient with the i7 8650u and 16gb ram gaming is fine and i can agree this laptop is unbeatable
You will find a very good replacement from the same ThinkPad line. I always return to ThinkPad after trying other companies
The T14 is a good one. Or the p series are on sale rn
How about the battery life? Pls tell
Can any of you guys please recommend the best Thinkpad for productivity as I plan to learn video editing on it, my total budget will be around 400-500$ for my total setup (Thinkpad and a mouse)
@short_dose_of_internet for a general purpose mouse, I love my razer orochi v2 just that it uses aa or aaa batteries
I was in urgent need of laptop but didn't want to cost much on. Then I found your previous T480s video. After watching your video, I immediately got myself a used T480s too early this year for like 150 bucks. Then I replaced glossy keyboard then worn touchpad to a glass one. I also added ram and m.2 ssd. It still works perfect in 2024 and serves me really well so far. Shout out to your work. Thank you.
Whats the total cost after upgrading ?
Please share more detail
Six year old is “old”? My X220 from 2011 still runs Win10 and will do until next year, when I’m going to put Linux on it. It has 8GB of ram and two internal SSDs, so still very capable of doing normal “consumer” tasks: TH-cam, email, text, news, etc. It is, admittedly, held together with tape in places, but enough memory and an IPS screen upgrade help it stay usable. Roll on, Thinkpads.
😂 watching this video on a Lenovo Thinkpad T420 with 8gb ram and 100 GB SATA SSD and yeah you're right bro for normal consumer tasks it definitely works. Using tiny 11 windows version on the non Nvidia Optimus variant.
@@bigboyking7551 i love my T410 it does everything i need.
Why wait? You can put Linux on it TODAY.
I still use a x220 too. You can fit two internal SSDs? What has to come out so you can fit the second one?
@@Paul--Nobody_Is_Out_To_Get_You Full size minipcie slot usually meant for a WWAN (cell data) module, that most don't have anyway. It also accepts mSATA SSDs.
I bought a 2015 X1 Carbon for cheap during the pandemic, it was soo light but capable. I recently switched to a T14 and gave the X1 to someone else who is in school. They appreciated that even for a 2015 laptop it can keep up with most tasks and very light and portable.
Thinkpads really are a good deal, especially after they're already used by office workers/accountants lol (currently using an L480 at work too).
I recommended 2nd hand Thinkpads to friends and family who just want a rugged laptop that can last for a while and for cheap. And it didn't disappoint them either.
I bought a thinkpad during lockdown as my mac had gone kaput - still going strong for writing, browsing etc just as you said. Totally agree about the keyboard!
As a recent thinkpad convert, I can honestly say they really do just get it done.
I recently got the Lenovo Thinkpad T495 for school and work and my god ive literally fallen in love with that thing. It can even do some decent gaming if you play less demanding games like minecraft or stardew valley. Honestly if you're on a budget and looking for a good laptop you can't go wrong with the old thinkpads.
Watching on my T480. Same i5 chip and it is beyond solid. I bought mine off ebay without ram so went for 16gb and upgraded the base screen to a 1080 for not much money thanks to ebay and ali express. I love the machine and it's been a solid workhorse for me in a similar way you discuss here. Mine is the slightly less slim model but it has even more battery. Completely a recommend for anyone that is okay with used and is willing to do minor fixing. This machine has the best idle battery life with lid shut I've seen as well.
Where I'm from nobody sells used things with any issues. All of them are basically refurbished
Mine was 1080p and $130
The T480 is quite possibly one of the top 5 greatest laptops ever made.
The T480 is, and I would love know which withers model are considered in this top!
Other 4 in your list?
ThinkPad is one of the most solid build laptop. I have seen this device used by my college IT and Eng'g professors. Also, I have seen IT professionals still using it in the field.
Another computer repair tech here. I also bought a T480s used on ebay 4 years ago and have been using it ever since. Its great!
I use for work on daily basis my Thinkpad T480 with Fedora. I love it!!!
i've done this a few times, ive learned from r/thinkpad that if you take a polish or even some simplegreen and a magic eraser, you can scrub the top carefully and it will make it look like new.
0:54 charge your phone, and i'll consider it
I’m a big fan of the ThinkPad. I have an old X380 Yoga - and it’s been great so far. It’s really well built, with fantastic keyboard feel. I also use a newer L15 for work. Many, many moons ago I went for a job at IBM’s Greenock plant, to design Thinkpads - at the time the great Richard Sapper was their design consultant, and I just thought they were very, very cool laptops. Sadly I didn’t get the job, but I did get hooked on that black and red laptop design!
Yep back in 2020 picked up a T450s for $200. As a backup to my Surface Pro 6. Now daily driver is a 2021 M1 14" Macbook Pro picked up a year ago next month at a great savings in monies. As don't need the latest and greatest shiny new.
The Surface Pro 6 has died 5.5yrs in now. But my Thinkpad T450s still rocking and regulated to emergency backup and moved to my electronics/hobbyist bench for my Pi,Andurino,esp32 projects. And with 2 batteries with one swap-able makes for a great little tho long in the tooth workhorse.
I went the crazy route... on my T480 I replaced the screen for a FullHD one, the keyboard has been switched for one with LED backlight, the SSD has been replaced with a 1TB variant from Crucial and the RAM has been switched out for 32GB of Corsair Vengeance DDR4 🤣
The last thing missing is the X1E glass trackpad. Night and day difference.
@@karelsmutny7038 indeed, haven't seen a decently priced one though and the keyboard was more important since the old one was hella grimy
@@lutzmowinski9781 how's it like for gaming or anything.
About to try on mine
Can you please share from where u got these replacements ? I am interested in P16 laptop or T480.
Same here
Still rocking t480 too for my daily task man
I bought my brother a used ThinkPad A485 and it’s been flawless for him in school. It originally came with 8GB of ram and I upgraded it to 16GB. The Ryzen 3 in it is slower by today’s standards, but it’s been riding along just fine on Windows 11. 2 batteries and built like a tank, he has no complaints
I was a bench tech and later supervisor for a subcontractor that built the IBM ThinkPad in the 1990s. Like all of our IBM projects, it was well designed and easy to build. We made thousands of them. The pointing stick was the only weak point, as I recall. It was not designed to move, but in normal use would sometime break off the PC board. I think it got redesigned when Lenovo took over the product.
I am typing this on a T400 with a Dual core centrino and 8 gigs of ram. With Linux even a machine 15 years old can still be usable. I love Thinkpads.
I have a 4 year old T460 and a 3 year old T480 that get used daily. The T480 has and i7 with 32GB of RAM and a 1TB NvME drive that is loaded with Linux Mint. The 460 has an i7 with 20GB of RAM and a 512GB NvME drive with Ubuntu. Both are incredible machines that have taken everything I toss at it and just rocked it. I highly recommend the ThinkPad as a work or personal powerhouse.
I also have a 16" P53 with 32GB of RAM and a 1TB NvME drive with Windows 11, and I use that as a gaming machine. Gotta love Lenovos.
I used Thinkpad T480. My wife Thinkpad X230, My sister Thinkpad X230, My Nephew Thinkpad X270 - some my friend also use Thinkpad. even almost of all them bought that laptops as second, but still work smoothly
I bought my W530 in 2012. 12 years have passed, it never let me down☺
I am daily-driving a Legion i5 as a desktop pc (for financial reasons) and I don't plan to sell my old Thinkpad E430. It's already 11 years old, but with an SSD & Battery replacement and a fresh cleaning it's the perfect companion for college and the work office.
Just came across this Video randomly.
Actually watching this on a second hand t480 with a i7 8650-U and 16GB of RAM, i own it for over 2 weeks now and i love it!
At first i wanted something more modern like a macbook or even a newer windows laptop but then i came across the whole thinkpad "cult" 😆
And immediately knew this would be the perfect thing for me, because my main Computer is more than powerful enough to handle my needs (video, and photoediting, gaming etc.)
Currently trying the limits of this Thinkpad but the only "mayor" issue i came across was the battery life, but like you said in your video it is really easy to swap out the internal battery. but mine has the external batteries aswell so i might order 2 of these and then i am more than good to go when i am on the go and editing photos or browsing the web!
I wish I got yours tbh.
Mine is i5 no dedicated😭
It can last me 8+ hours for your use
“Old Thinkpad”
“T480”
My T440s daily driver: 🗿
I hold one T440, the best laptop I ever had.
Me with my T420💀
@@GlauberSilva333 I never really liked the T440. Only has one ram slot. Always thought that was crappy. The T450 was a MUCH better machine.
@@thadrumr I never cared that much about RAM, but even my laptop had 12GB, I always used it with lubuntu. Then it was more than engough for my daily usage. I only stopped using it full time because I started using Docker a lot and then RAM became a more necessary thing. Still, you have to understand that the T440 is a 16 year old computer. How many computers do you think can have that long a useful life?
x220t 🍷🗿
In the first two years of university I used a Thinkpad w541 which was awesome for everything I needed. I starting doing research and internships and quickly found that I needed more power to run software like ArcGIS as it was PAINFULLY slow on the Thinkpad. I got a Lenovo Pro 9i and it has been an absolute beast for doing any coding/data related tasks I need. 5x the cost but it really feels like 5x the computer. For many other users, older Thinkpads are still just perfect for 98% of use cases.
Got my T480s one month ago and I love it! It runs windows 11 so well. Only thing I don't love that much is the camera and the screen brightness. Would love to hear some recommendations
By matte protector. It's just bad glare, not the brightness.
That or yours has really been through it
@tegathemenace what do you recommend to do?. I'm dubious about changed or playing with it coz it being a touch screen
I bought a 9 year old T450 for uni, and i have been using it for 2 months now, and it's working great! It can do almost anything, browsing, text editing, office, even lightweight games or emulators. With SSD it's pretty fast, boots up in 10-15 secs. Last time I accidentally spilled a glass of water on it's keyboard, but it still works without any issue after drying it up quickly.
My fondest thinkpad memory was finding a 6th gen x1 carbon (i7-8650U, 8gb ram) at my university's bookstore surplus sale. It was 100$ CAD, and the only issue with is was that the 'E' key had come off and they didn't know or didn't bother to try and put it back on. I hadn't even planned to buy a laptop that day, I went in to the shop for some pencils, and left with a new-to-me laptop haha. Killer deal, currently writing this comment on it right now. I plan to hand this one down to my brother as he's entering school soon, and have just ordered myself a top spec Thinkpad X13 gen 2 on ebay. Comes next week, I'm very excited :)
I love my p15s (has the 10th gen i7 so I got a good lesson in throttlestop). If you want something that just works out of the box, avoid the 10th and 11th gen Intel CPUs but if you're not afraid to tinker for a while, you can get a really good deal on a super powerful thinkpad of that generation. With the right tuning, it has insane battery life and even plays modern games while I kill time between programming classes. I can't imagine using another keyboard on a laptop now.
Typing from my T480 and have been using it as my daily driver for 6.5 year. No issues so far and love the keyboard!
Hey man, are you able to give opinion on this.. I just ordered mine..
T460P. i core i7 6820HQ with geforce 940mx2, 16gb ram 512 ssd
Is this pretty good?
I only get a L480 but this thing just gets the job done for my djing gig. Though it's just an i5-8350u, there's no problem running windows 11 and SeratoDJ with it.
I bought a refurbished dual core Thinkpad t470 about 2 1/2 years ago with 16 gigs of RAM, 256GB SSD drive, and Windows 10 Pro. Knowing it wasn't upgradeable I nuked Windows 10 and installed Linux Mint. It's been my go to laptop in the field ever since. I use it mostly for writing, yes I love the keyboard, surfing the web, watching videos, coding, number crunching spreadsheets, and online meetings. I have a docking station that has a 2nd monitor, a couple of external SSD drives, a logitech webcam, and a Jabra mic/speaker. So all I have to do when I head out is pop it off the docking station and go. I love my t470 set up! My other (MSi) gaming laptop is for editing Photos, video, and music making.
I'm the same, I have 2 T400 they are virtually bomb proof and when you couple them to a dock you have more than enough ports, they may not have a HDMI poert but how often do you use them, and with the dock hooked to a 21" Lenovo screen you can work Doc's easier and videos are way better, with it saveing the 14" screen for when you are working away, with the ability to swap batteries as needed, and swapping out the the original HDD for a SSD gives them a new lease of life.
I use an e-waste yoga x380 for my laptop. My coworker had snagged a bunch of usable computers from the recycling bin and let me take one. I threw Ubuntu onto it and it works great.
I've been using various models of IBM Thinkpads professionally from like the 2000''s. Still have about three early models out of nostalgia. I always loved them as they where robust and always worked. I could work faster with the red joystick than a regular mouse. Later Lenovo took over and I had the first time of a screen failing on me. For those days battery life was really acceptable. Just keep them connected to power whenever possible and they will last you a long time.
Just bought a refurb T490 16 gb/512gb, FHD, backlit kb, W11, and PS for $185 USD. Not a scratch on it. Spent $100 on 16 gb sodimm and fast 1 tb nvme ssd. Re-using the old m.2 sata ssd for portable storage. This thing rips.
I bought a used T570 back in 2021 and it has not let me down. It's super reliant, sturdy and the specs are good. I'll get it updated soon, but overall - that laptop is gonna stick by my side for as long as possible. We're made to believe that new is better and that is proven to not be the case most of the time. And for regular people like me and every other worker, those ThinkPads hit the spot like nothing else.
I love my T490. Running popOS! Work wonderfully. Fingerprint reader even works
Had a ThinkPad X1 Carbon back in 2017 from work. Used it for 2 years. Built like a tank. It doesn't have the greatest of specs but as far as reliability is concerned, it is up there.
I still got my P1 Gen 1 and I don't think I will need another laptop for another 5 years or so. I am very happy with it.
I'm currently rocking a i7 X1 Yoga Titanium with LTE as my daily driver. Super lightweight, lid made of titanium, 3:2 display with full multitouch and pen support. The only downside is it can get really warm under heavy load with AC plugged.
I using a second-hand Thinkpad Yoga 13.3 on i5-8350u and sensor screen. After buying, I upgraded RAM to 16 GB DDR 4. It is still amazing
X220, X230,T430, T440P, W541, T460, T460P, X270, T470, L380 and now T480...hoarding all of them but W541 is my most favorite one. Next target... X1 extreme. All from ebay.
i still have my Lenovo T490 for basic uses even has a good desktop at my house. but im still spend time the laptop more than the desktop. because i do the some thing as you, but except writing scripts. but i do a bit gaming like. minecraft or roblox..and half life too. and general browsing. old or not, this is still very good.
Love my X1 Carbon Gen6 with the 8th Gen i7 CPU. Used it at work for 6 years and bought it from the company at a good price since i upgraded the day job machine to a new Framework 13.
The ThinkPad runs Fedora now and is snappy as anything. The keyboard and glass trackpad with dedicated Buttons were peak modern ThinkPad for me.
I bought and repaired an X270 i7 to use as a main laptop in 2022, and I really enjoyed it! All the inputs (keyboard, trackpad, trackpoint) felt great and were very intuitive, port selection was great for daily use, screen was quite sharp (with it being a 1080p 12.5" LCD), and it was very easy to carry around, with it being part of the ultraportable X-line. My favorite feature was definitely Lenovo Power Bridge with the hot-swappable batteries, and I even got a dock for it lol. Unfortunately, earlier this year it suffered a common issue with those models - RAM socket failure (and possibly worse torsion-caused board damage?). Just a forewarning to anyone intending to get an X240-X270... :(
I have since gotten a Dell Latitude 7390 (small upgrade, I know) and I think I'd consider Latitudes a good alternative to ThinkPads as well! It's about the same footprint as my X270 but with a larger and nicer screen (it competed with the X380/X390). Though the gen of keyboard my Latitude has is probably the worst one you can get lol (rattly with an uneven backlight) I have still been pretty satisfied with it, and it has a great port selection and repairable build just like the ThinkPad.
Actually, I recently replaced the board on the X270 with an i5 board and gave it to my sister! It's still chugging, even though its logic board has been replaced. I think she's been pretty happy with it.
In the tech communities I'm active in, I think there's a pretty big consensus that business-decommissioned ThinkPads and Latitudes are great buys for anyone who wants a cheap, solid, and reliable laptop :) Though of course, the ThinkPad is definitely more iconic with its design language and badging
I bought mine E480(cheaper version of t480) with same CPU in 2018. Graduated uni with this machine. I replaced battery couple months ago, added second 8 gb ram stick and swapped hdd to 1 tb m2 ssd like 2 years ago. I thought about selling it and buy something new, but after watching this video I'm gonna stick with it. Thinkpads really a amazing
Love my 480s. Bought used new battery upgraded with 40Gb ram and a 1Tb m.2. This is a professional laptop
this video is somehow very satisfying to watch considering I used a lenovo workstation for the last 9 years consistently
Thinkpad is one love.
I would be happy to have an arm version with linux to make it absolutely perfect.
I have a Lenovo 2019 Thinkpad E590 that is now a brick. The achilles heel is the USB power soldered on the board.
My first thinkpad was an x260 I bought refurbished for less than $200. I upgraded the screen, maxed out the RAM and put a SSD in it. I later upgraded to a t490s. I still use both laptops. The keyboard on the x260 is the best I've ever used on a laptop.
I bought this exact laptop two months ago - I AM SO IMPRESSED.
I got a dell latitude 7390 out of the ewaste at my work with a battery so swollen it had cracked the back cover in two. I excavated the battery glued the back case and popped in a 16gb stick of ram and it has been a fantastic little machine for anything I need!
I'm still using my old E480, it has same spec with your T480s. Due to problem with one of the DIMM slot, i can only use one stick 8GB memory. So i purchased a brand new zenbook for my main programming laptop and my E480 for my home lab.
They're the backbone of any consultacy firm, I've had a few versions of it and they never lost a beat. Great typing machines and general use with excel and ppt. Although I have to say it's insane how expensive a new one can be.
Just bought Thinkpad T480 i5 for $130. Zero issues. I use it for Adobe apps and it doesn't freeze(not tried video editing yet). The CPU rarely gets to 2.0ghz. It has the dual battery that lasts!
It also rarely gets hot. As a 3rd worlder I can't express how much I am happy because of it's value for money.
I've been using an old Lenovo X200 Tablet I picked up for $50 10 years ago for work stuff. I recently swapped it over to Linux Mint 22 and it's been brilliant! I also added a 1TB SSD and 2x 4G RAM sticks. It does everything I need it to for work and occassional interweb browsing.
Thinkpads are the Crown Jewel in Lappy Land. I personaly owned a X1 Carbon 3rd Gen which was extremely fast and easy to use, the only downside was the awful battery life and had to get a USB to Rj45 extension cable for internet . Sold it and next one was a Thinkpad T440. Again worked like blazing fast. 101 percent efficient. The only downside being not able to do moderate to heavy graphics. Served me well for around 2 years and later sold it for a decent sum. Next i bought a T480s last year which is the best one in my arsenal. Its a core i5 8th Gen with 16 gigs RAM which i later upgraded to 24 Gigs and added a WD Black M.2 drive which made it awesome fast. The only negative is the built in graphics which is not able to support the heavy graphic intense applications and the screen a bit dull. Though its a very feather like lightweight system which you can easily carry in your backpack and handle like a big notebook in your hands. Sturdy and robust. Easy to upgrade. Go for a Thinkpad dear friends. They are the "RULERS" in lappy land.
i recently got a thinkpad p50 with an i7, nvidia quadro m1000, and 24 gb of ram for like $130, best laptop i've ever had
It's stolen😭
@tegathemenace no it isnt lmao i just got a good deal
Happened to watch this on my now 6 years old TP e585, which is still serving me well in my Networking & Security studies.
Which I bought late in high-school as an upgrade to an ancient Compaq I temporarily used after getting annoyed with my school iPad.
It was expensive for the early AMD Ryzen specs it has (one of the first TPs with AMD chips), but I got a decent deal from a business reseller clearing out stock in favour of the newer e595.
Immediately upgraded the RAM to 16GiB, later expanded the storage, then shrunk it a bit but pooled the two drives.
The battery life has been awful from the start, 4 hours of the lightest usage is the maximum, but 6 years in the original battery still is at 89% health.
It's been running Linux for all that time, but has been completely reliable, aside from the few times the fan bearing jammed after a bump and prevented it from booting.
While the T, P and X series ThinkPads are more prestigious, I am surprised with how well this E series one has held up and have grown a liking to this line too.
my grandma is retiring from working for the government, which she uses a laptop for work. She uses a thunderbolt dock for her two monitors, so that helped me find out that a thinkpad t480 will be perfect for her (besides the model I got has no numpad, but she has a keyboard.) It's actually really similar to yours, the only difference being that half of the ports are on the right side, unlike yours with just a usb on the right, and her's has 16gb of ram and a 512gb ssd. It's refurbed, but it seems perfect lol.
Wish I knew to look for thinkpads when buying a laptop two years ago... I spent almost 400 dollars on an acer aspire 5 laptop from "backmarket" and it came with 8gb of ram, 256gb nvme ssd, and a i5 1135g7. I've already upgraded the ram to 24gb by replacing the 4gb stick (since the other 4gb is soldered) with a 16gb stick from crucial, and added an old 500gb laptop hdd to the sata slot, so it's more usable now.
I can agree I also still use a l380 Yoga. I still just love that thing. I Upgraded the ram to 32gb and the ssd to 4Tb and it still performes great even when using multiple vms and docker containers. Haptics on this thing are still a pleasure after all this time and I love the 360 degrees flip option when doing a presentation.
L380 Yoga user here too. I upgraded storage to 4TB and it was a scary tight fit because SSD those sizes are dual sided. My laptop initially didn't find the drive so I reseated it and felt relieved when it was finally detected in BIOS. Currently use it for a Immich and Jellyfin server on Debian 12 plus it acts as a spare laptop for when my kids need to type out assignments all at the same time.
I second that - I managed to pick up an X280 - same generation, smaller form factor, and after using it for a year its been great. I use it as my main computer where I am often running Docker, VMs, web apps, and other daily office software and everything is spot on - across 2 completely different jobs and organizations. Mine has an i7 CPU, 16 GB (unfortunately the X series from X280 are not upgradeable), and I upgrade the M.2 SSD to 1 TB - another USD50 or so. Price point at the time was around USD300. I do run Linux (PopOS) on it rather than Windows which I think extends the mileage a bit, and I am hoping for at least another 1~2 years using it as a primary computer for work, browsing, and occasional play. 0 AD - a free more modern Age of Empires - works well on it. Nice video and great to see older tech get some attention - the new shiney ain't always better.
I'm still using ThinkPad T540p with i7 4th gen, it still work so smooth for me even today and I have there 2880x1620 resolution.
Picked up an x1 Carbon 7th Gen 16gb 512gb storage for $250 in mint condition. Best windows laptop I've ever owned. Still love my Macbook Pro M2 but this is a perfect side dev laptop.
I just recently got into Thinkpads this year I was originally on an M1 MBP then swapped to a Asus X13 Flow and now I am on the L series platform from Lenovo. I have an L14 with the Ryzen 3 Pro 4450u, 16gb dual channel ram, and a 1 TB SSD. The screen on it is its last upgrade I'm doing on it going from 1366x768 to a 1920x1080P FHD 400 Nitt low power panel. I'll probably bump up the ram to 32GB of ram later on in the future since it is my daily for school and I am honestly digging it already especially for its upgradability. Battery life is decent on it I get average about 6-8 hours on it but I still lowkey miss the life I got with the MacBook.
rocking a thinkpad x1 carbon 7th gen and it's faultless! Never let me down or crashed.
Still using T440P since for many years. Really thick and heavy but its incredible machine.
I’m a former user of Lenovo… worked well at the beginning, but when I moved to a place with damp climate, it fell apart, ports rusty, keys felling off, the screen produced white strips. There are other better options out there, I believe.
I’m using a T490s and it’s a mad machine and that keyboard is such a bless
I purchased a second-hand T470 a couple of months after I moved back to Australia from Japan last year. After replacing the two batteries (external and internal), increasing the RAM (from 8 to 16 GB), and installing Arch Linux, it's a pretty fun secondary computer to use. I've even done some gaming on it (mostly PC ports of PS3 JRPGs), albeit at 600-720p, thanks to Proton for Steam.
I bought myself a "newer" ThinkPad for my CS degree (circa 2021, 32G ram, 512GB storage) for a bargain compared to similarly-speced machines from different manufacturers. It's worked like a CHARM. It handles any computationally-expensive work I throw at it, and has a pretty solid battery life to boot (I use it with Linux, and it has an AMD chip, which I've heard helps). Could not recommend ThinkPads more.
well i have bunch of rooster older than that thinkpad, everything still going strong daily basis
p50 which i use for editing n rendering
E430 for simply browsing around and manage my ecommerce acount
t440/x260 with dual battery for traveling around (still going strong 6-8 hours in performance setting) those battery can be swaped around
x220 the oldest one i have, now used by my employee for administrative work
they build to going strong for decade, not falling down after warranty expire, easy to maintenance n upgrade..
I have to agree with you as i have 3, Lenovo desktop (i9-13900k w/rtx4080) , Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Yoga Gen 5 (i5-10210U Intel UHD) , Acer Nitro 17.3" (AMD 5-5600h w/rtx3060) and besides the desktop having the best screen. I LOVE my Thinkpad! I got it used for cheap too.
Is the yoga RAM removable
@tegathemenace Yes RAM is upgradeable, the Gen 5 Yoga is anyway.
Where to find the battery for such old laptops?
Long time ThinkPad lifer here. Recently switched to Framework. Not looking back. You should too. I get where you're coming. What you really want is a Framework; probably the 13 inch.
Price😐
Bought a W530 a month ago. One of my best life decisions ever made.
: ) WELL DONE and THANKS MUCH indeed! I have the same model in addition to a couple of older ones : ) I grew up with them at work in the 90's and remember the butterfly keyboard one well. ALL the BEST and Cheers from across the Pond ! : )
I got a T 480 few months ago and i catch some fire with that notebook, it has 16 GB, 256 Gb and the 1.7 Ghz + boost, i use it for my daily workroutine, consuming media and work with media, shure its not the fastest but its ok for me. My Sys is an arch linux and fits with older hardware. The Price was 280 €
I want to talk about driver support. I have used a Dell Inspiron, Microsoft Surface, Acer Nitro and of course a Thinkpad x390.
I always had to install Ubuntu on these devices one ways or another. And Thinkpad was the only device when I do not needed to hassle with any driver missing/not working.
Thanks for making the video. One can be surprised how much power older hardware has.
(Writing this on a Macbook Pro 15 from 2013, which I do most;...all.. my work on, and it's still quite fast).
(Maybe thanks to Tim Cook making quite breakable machines 2015-2020, with almost no ports, maybe a Thinkbook would be the next machine, once the Macbook gives up altogether ).
Personally I use a Thinkpad T440p with Alpine Linux and Sway.
Performance: i5-4210M and 8gb of ram along with my old spinning HDD is more then good enough for average use, I might upgrade my components later but I dont feel that I need to
Upgradability: I can upgrade everything from CPU to my screen, my screen is good enough (IMO 1366x768 is not a bad resolution)
Ports: I have a MicroDP and a VGA port which is more then good enough for my tri monitor setup. In addition four USB ports, an SD card slot, and a DVD reader (I still use DVDs) makes it more then good enough for daily usage (also having a dedicated docking port on the bottom is very nice).
Build quality: Truly built like a brick, feels like a brick, I love it
BIOS: Its Librebooted, no Intel ME here or absolutely proprietary BIOS to be found (granted I still need to get a wifi adapter that supports libre firmware)
Nice I have one HP Elitebook 840 G6 from around this 480s time and it is a very good machine. Same U8265, 16G ram 24000 and 256giga. Very good. Second hand U$ 275. Nice machine and more than enough for the tasks to be honest.
If your OS and application choices are supported, use what works for you. I run Debian on an HP 290. It got a new life with an SSD.
Hi guys!
You all use very new Thinkpads 😂. Mine is T60 - the last one with the IBM logo (love it!) - bought it 2010-11 for 125 EUR😂: win7, 3gb ram, the perfect keyboard, runs youtube and office, etc, very nicely. Thinkpad rulzzz!
I used an off least T61 for years. That was the first year Thinkpad offered a wide screen rather then a 4:3. When it finally died I purchased a T520 for myself and one for my wife a few years later.
3:57 Based for keeping track of the CS2 pro scene lol
lol super based
I currently use a L530, really good. now i would to buy a newer thinkpad.
Six years old? That still has the new car smell to it! I just traded in my 2016 model XPS 15 for a new Galaxy Book 5 Pro 360.
The Lenovo X390 Yoga is underrated, too.
Very light and slim, great touch screen (with calibration), ok-ish cpu-performance with i7 which is good in this form factor.
I'm watching this video on a mint condition Lenovo Thinkpad X220 from 2011 which I have upgraded with 16GB of RAM and a 500GB Samsung SSD and swapped out the original i5 for the i7-2640M. I also stuck a 3x USB-A ExpressCard into the slot to give me near USB 3.0 speeds and effectively doubles the number of USB ports on the machine. It also sits in the official X220 dock which gives it yet another 4 USB ports, so 10 in total. Oh, and I bought the 9-cell extended battery for it directly from the Lenovo site as well, so it powers on for HOURS when I take it anywhere.
I own a latitude 5490 with almost the exact same specs as your ThinkPad, only difference is that I have 16gb ram and my processor is the 8350u which has vpro. I use LMDE in this machine and it's flawless, nothing I can complain about, it just always works. I bought it 2nd hand almost 2 years ago and still looks mint (pun not intended). I want to upgrade to a ryzen AI ThinkPad soon, but I'm waiting for the P series to get the 300 series AMD as I do want the rj45 port and the upgradeable ram. If those refreshed models don't get upgradeable ram and/or rj45, I'll stick with p14s gen5 amd
I found out that older ThinkPad have better TrackPoint, more precise, that's why I use older ThinkPad too