Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen 2 Review: With Comparison to X1 Extreme Gen 2
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- This is the unboxing and review of the Lenovo ThinkPad P2 Gen 2 by Andrew Marc David (AMDtech)
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Specs:
Processor
Intel® Xeon® E-2276M with vPro™ (2.80GHz, up to 4.70GHz with Turbo Boost, 6 Cores, 12MB Cache)
Up to 9th Generation Intel® Core™ i9-9880H with vPro™ (2.30GHz, up to 4.80GHz with Turbo Boost, 8 Cores, 16MB Cache)
Operating System
Windows 10 Home
Windows 10 Pro - Lenovo recommends Windows 10 Pro for business
Windows 10 Pro for Workstations 64 (Xeon Processor only)
Display
15.6" UHD 4K (3840 x 2160) OLED, 400 nits, AR/AS, multi-touch Dolby Vision™ HDR 500
15.6" UHD (3840 x 2160) IPS 500 nits, anti-glare with Dolby Vision™ HDR 400
15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS 300 nits, anti-glare, 72% NTSC
15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS 500 nits, anti-glare, 72% NTSC, Dolby Vision™ HDR 400
Graphics
NVIDIA® Quadro® T1000 4 GB
NVIDIA® Quadro® T2000 4 GB
Integrated Intel® UHD Graphics 630
Camera
HD 720p with ThinkShutter privacy cover
Optional:IR & 720p HD Camera with with ThinkShutter
Memory
Up to 64 GB DDR4 2666 MHz
Up to 64 GB DDR4 2666 MHZ ECC (Xeon Processor only)
Storage
Up to 4 TB PCIe SSD
Raid 0,1 optional
Battery
Up to 13 hours* on 80Wh, includes Rapid Charge technology**
Up to 10 hours on a single one-hour charge
*Based on testing with MobileMark 2014. Battery life varies significantly with settings, usage, and other factors.
**Requires 135W AC power adapter
Audio
Dolby Atmos® Sound System
Security
Discrete Trusted Platform Module (dTPM) 2.0
Fast Identity Online (FIDO) authentication capabilities
ThinkShutter webcam privacy cover
Match-on-Chip Touch fingerprint reader
Optional IR camera for Windows Hello
Kensington lock slot
Optional Smart card reader
Dimensions (W x D x H)
14.2” x 9.7” x 0.7” / 361.8 x 245.7 x 18.4 (mm)
Weight
Starting at 3.74 lbs (1.69 kg)
Connectivity
Intel® AX200 Wi-Fi 6 802.11AX (2 x 2)
Bluetooth® 5.0
Ports
2 x USB 3.1 Gen 1** (1 always on)
2 x USB 3.1 Gen 2** Type-C / Intel Thunderbolt™ 3 (DisplayPort, Data transfer)
HDMI 2.0
Mini Gigabit Ethernet
Audio combo jack
Smart card reader (Optional)
4-in-1 media card reader (MMC, SD, SDHC, SDXC)
What’s in the box
ThinkPad P1 Gen 2
135W AC Adapter
4 Cell 80Wh internal battery
Quick start guide
Check out my review of the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 2: • Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Ext...
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the consumer counterpart (extreme x1 gen 2) also supports up to 64GB RAM and 2 nvme ssd slots. there is no difference in the storage & ram upgradability options. i think it's worth focusing more on why having the xeon option is important. it's a pretty significant deal that i think this video missed the mark on
Regarding the "2 nvme ssd slots" on the X1 Extreme Gen 2, is that an unadvertised thing by Lenovo? I was going through the "build your own" tool on their website, and there wasn't an option for a second HD.
@@JasperFx they don't mention it on the page, but it's definitely there, every review that opens up shows the two nvme slots. I'm pretty sure the case and motherboard are indentical between the p1 and x1extreme, only the CPU and GPU options and the logo are different.
In terms of components, are the RAM, SSD ...etc equivalent to that of the new MacBook Pro? I mean in terms of write speed, MHz ...etc
@root thank you. Are there any Windows laptops with equivalent hardware to the new Macbooks?
@@JasperFx i'm not sure if it's unadvertised (it's on their website if i remember correctly). but Lenovo will only populate 1 ssd slot in the build your own tool so that's why it doesn't show up as an option. but i have the x1e2 and have both slots populated
Thanks so much! Ordered ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 2 with 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD. Opted for FHD because I use software programs that just won't play nice with higher resolutions! (I've been using my 4K Lenovo Yoga-910 backed down to FHD because of it.) For what it's worth, this will be my 4th Lenovo laptop - 2 while working for my previous employer and 2 bought with my own money since becoming self-employed 6+ years ago.
Excellent review and comparison, thanks Andrew!
Nice review of the X1 extreme twin.
Just bought mine. Love everything about it except the battery life
4K UHD OLED.
Hello Andrew, By now you would have had access to the 3rd generation of this machine, given that you are so well connected to Lenovo. Any chance of a near time review? Thanks Andrew.
Not yet but very soon.
@@andrewmarcdavid Thank you for your instant reply, Marc. I have a quote for the P1 Gen 2 (fully specced). However, the expiration date is the 6th of this month. Any chance of a review before than?
@@andrewmarcdavid Hi Andrew, no rush. Found someone else featuring this laptop here on TH-cam.
Hi, Andrew. Thanks for the review. Quick question. I've been trying to figure out what the circle to the left of the camera is on my Lenovo Thinkpad P1 Gen 2. I like that I can close the webcam with the built-in shutter, but it looks like there is still another camera that is left open at all times. Is that other circle another camera? I appreciate any insight you can provide. Thanks!
It is an infrared camera for face recognition unlock.
@@vision2080 thanks!
P1 Gen2 64Gb Ram +£457 (£108 more expensive)
X1 EG2 64Gb Ram +£349
P1 Gen2 1Tb SSD +£164
X1 EG2 1Tb SSD +£258 (£94 more expensive)
I hate ordering on Lenovo. Pricing on the options make no sense and are invariably overpriced compared to the market
Wasnt the 4k 400 nits display the OLED and 4k 500 nits was IPS? So that one should be OLED?
The link you have in your description for the Lenovo Thinkpad P1 Gen 2 has a significant price reduction compared to me manually finding the P1 Gen 2 on Lenovo's website. Why is that? If so could you please work your magic on the Irish lenovo store.
7:35 - 7:51 You wut m8? You first say that both have the option to have the Xeon processor, then you say that only the P1 have that option, whaaat..?😳
Some of those options have changed quite significantly, so an update in the description and/or as a pinned comment from you would be good for your viewers.
Otherwise a great review and comparison! Much appreciated!
Watching from my new x1 gen 2)
I bought them after perfect review of this laptop in this chanel. Andrew, thx a lot)
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I just order this computer today, is it worth it?
I have heard conflicting reports , is charging off a high W USB C charger possible!? I'm seriously considering this for school and work. Thanks!
Hi Andrew, if you could please review thinkpad P1 Gen3 and Thinkpad X1 Extreem Gen 3 . thankyou
Really HATE the placement of the Fn key. I keep hitting it when I am trying to press the CONTROL-Key. So annoying.
Also, because the function key pushes my hands to the right, I keep pressing the RIGHT mouse click on the trackpad when I meant to press the LEFT mouseclick. Just remove the FN key and shift everything back left.
Go look at any other vendor's laptop. Far left is the Control key, and to its right is the Fn key.
But no, some idiot at Lenovo decides to switch it around
You can switch the Ctrl and Fn keys in the laptop BIOS (access via keypress at boot). Thank me later.
V I S I O N thanks
Hi Andrew, great review. Just one request: could you check the DPC latency with the LatencyMon? Would be greatly appreciated!
would love that too!!!
Same boat! Thanks!
@@Arad737 love that boat mate
I just ordered the X1 Gen 2 fully loaded today...
I'm considering cancelling while I can, to get the P1 with the quadro T2000... I do occasional CAD work on some pretty intricate models. Do you think I should go through the hassle of cancelling for the P1?
yes because you'll be taken seriously by tech support for the CAD programs if you're using the xeon build with ISV certifications
For software developer, which one would be better, X1 or P1?
will P1 gen2 @ support eGPU?
someone pleASE replie
The only issue is - esp here in the UK - waiting for those discounts. Would almost prefer a more consistent pricing.
The best the UK tend to get is only 10%
@@tnetroP There was one time it had 15% discount at max. But you can only use one voucher code and cannot add the newsletter subscription with the current sales.
Lenovo, please square off your laptop cases. Like apple's macs
HELLO. can anyone please simplify the difference between these two without using these nerdy tech terms. Idiot here, who doesnt understand shit about specs. I'm an artist looking for laptop that is not a MacBooks and does well with photo/ video editing and will last me a good 5+years. Thank you.
Interested in either one of these two. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Much love from tx 🤎
Great review, thanks a lot. One small mention Lenovo needs to work on their sales, the way their website handles cards is absolute nightmare. Other than that i believe Lenovo and Huawei made the best laptops this year.
Awesome suit! Looking good!
Thanks Linus! 👊
I've been living with the P1 Gen2 for almost a year now and overall, it's a great laptop. Mine is the Xeon with T2000 GPU, 1 TB SSD and 32 GB of memory. That said, here are my negatives: 1) Battery life if HORRIFIC - really about 2-3 usable hours is all you can expect, maybe another hour or so by reducing display to 1080p and just web surfing; 2) Brightness is just ok, and you cannot dim it all the way to black like you can with a MacBook Pro; 3) It is hard to convey just how much this surface material shows fingerprints, oil, etc.; 4) When pushing the computer, it gets HOT! (really hot); 5) Backlit feature of the keyboard is chintzy - the LEDs are oddly positioned around the keyboard, and the keys stand up high enough to where the light shines out from under the keys as much as it shines through the keys - not a fan (but huge fan of the keyboard, otherwise); 6) This last item is likely a one off, but the deck of my laptop squeaks against the base when I rest my hands on it to type - very annoying. I realize that seems like a lot, but for a professional mobile workstation, the P1 is really a great computer. You just have to learn to live with some build quality issues.
I love you thank you
Sadly Idk which to get. What do you think? I’m probably not going to be doing a lot of gaming.
Hi , thank you for your review. Recently I want to purchase x1 extreme gen 2 that I find there is no more uhd oled display option . Do you know where I can buy it or give me a suggestion?
Yes, it shows that model as "out of stock", and that sometimes happens with Lenovo- they don't have all the options available for purchase at the beginning of production.
I got the X1 Gen 2 on Cyber Monday
i7-9750 (no noticeable difference between 9750 and 9850 but price difference was insane).
8GB Ram
256 SSD
UHD Screen Non Touch
My total was $1894 Canadian ($1435 US).
I wanted the best screen because why not only $100 more.
I will upgrade with a 1 TB SSD by Samsung for $200 Canadian.
I will upgrade with 32 GB Ram Kit by Timetic $160 or Crucial $170
My total cost is $2300 Canadian ($1700 US) for 1TB 32GB X1 E G2
I tried to rebuild it and the price for it exactly the same is $2300 Canadian! $1800 US
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Hello,
Thank you for the review..
I have a question, please..
Does it support CMYK display as the Mac?
I need full color range, and I'm in between Lenovo P1 and Dell XPS 17..
I need it tor designing and I don't want to go for Mac tbh
Thanks in advance
Awesome review, thank you! This is on my shortlist for sure. Would you consider reviewing the MSI Prestige 15 4K model? It's an interesting mix of 10th Gen processor + GTX 1650 + calibrated colour accurate visuals
Hi Andrew. I have a brand new P53 and wanted to use the discount code for MS Office. However, none of the links work. Will you by any chance, repeat it? Or do you know where i could legally get one? Thanks.
Can anyone help me choose between this laptop or dell precision 5540? I'm looking to use the laptop for Cad software such as Solidworks.
Great review. Thank you. Does each thunderbolt 3 port have four lanes? Curious if each could drive a 5k monitor for a dual 5k monitor set up?
Hey Andrew, can you please check out the Gigabyte Aero 15 OLED? It's a great laptop that has similar I/O and expandability compared to the P1 Gen 2 but packs a lot more graphical punch.
Gaming results are totally wrong. Bad driver + mistake in GTA V and Overwatch.
Excellent and Straight forward review. Great Help.
Please compare DELL XPS VS Lenevo P1 GEN2 in next video
Hi Andrew, thanks for the great review. In fact, your review of the x1 extreme gen 2 was very helpful for my purchase decision. I just moved from T430 to X1 extreme gen 2. However, I noticed that the keyboard , in some cases, doesn't respond when you press the keys from any of the 4 corners. Have you noticed something like that or is it something that I need to contact Lenovo for?
By the way, I am not a touch typist.
Thanks.
for 4k screen. whats the best cpu to have better battery life? xeon or i7 or i5?
Loved the review. How does the screen option seen in this review(4k ips) compare with the 4k ips screens of the normal thinkpad t and p series? Does one look nicer than the other? I am interested in the best screen that I can get on a Thinkpad. Thanks.
Hi Andrew, nice review. You mention the possible fan noise when doing heavvy workloads but you don't include a sound demo (nor speakersound demo). Do you still have the P1 gen2 near you? Is it possible to show us how much sound this workstation makes?
What about the bios bugs other reviewers are complaining at?.
Still like this P1 gen2 because of it's small footprint and I have to pick something up to do my Fusion30 editing after returning 2 at two separate dealers bought HP ZBook 17 G6 workstations with RTX3000 and REALLY silent fans, because of a very loud coil whine....
1 minutes 30 seconds of advertising is outrageous in all honesty
let me understand: with P1 you can replace the ram, with the X1 the ram is soldered?
Great video! I'm a football photographer and use a 15" 2015 MBP. It's great in normal conditions. In the cold (15 degrees Celsius and below) the battery dumps. How are Lenovo's in cold conditions?
Trying to decide between this and a Razer. Key board travel is important to me. Anyone know if lenovo has good black Friday deals
Another great review and getting slicker in recent times. However, I would prefer if you left out the 'background music'. But that is just me. I really don't understand that Lenovo cannot or will not address the fingerprint magnet issue. These laptops really look very unappetising once you just come close to them. There just has to be an alternative material that could address this issue.
Thanks for the info
Doesn't X1 Extreme come with Dolby Atmos? How can the audio be mediocre?
You got yourself a subscriber! Thank you for these reviews!!
Would you be able to tame the thermal throttle if you set this unit on a cooling tray?
Excellent review! I have one question and I wish you could kindly answer me. When I read the review from notebookcheck.net, they mentioned coil whine, did you notice coil whine during your review time? Thanks, keep the momentum!
Great video, i am at very critical point in my pro media editing, i shift to Apple laptops in 2007 and now i am thinking to go back to PC, i was looking for powerful laptop, and i am trying to choose between Thinkpad P2 Gen2 (i used to own it when it was belong to IBM) and 16" Macbook pro? your video add so much light on my decision, thank you.
I have been tracking the price of the ThinkPad P1 Gen 2 on Lenovo’s website for the last several months and, I must say, I am thoroughly flabbergasted by Lenovo’s pricing tactics. I am particularly interested in the 20QTS00X00 (i7-9850H; 16gb mem, 512gb storage, no dedicated GPU, FHD 500 nits). It is currently listed at $2,249. However, in the past few months it has been on sale for $1,489, $760 less!! The price has gone up and down frequently but reached this low point multiple times. It has never reached the $3,209 which is shown as the “Web Price”. At $1,489 I believe the price is fair. At $2,249 it is way overpriced.
@@BeautifulTurkish The cheapest P1 Gen2 with 16gb / 512gb is $1999, today. That's with an i5! Just too much. There are better alternatives...
Do you know when gen 3 for extreme and P1 will be released? Will, like with carbon x1, there be top firing speakers and side vents? Don’t get why you would put down during speakers and bottom vent on a premium laptop as in P1 and extreme.
Typically Aug 2020. But Covid-19 may change the cycle or even there might not be a Gen 3 this year.
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Hi Andrew, could you include a lightroom responsiveness test? wondering if GTX 1060 vs RTX makes a difference in Lightroom and premiere.... i gues smostly after effects..!?!?!
Great laptop, far out of my price range, but I could see a business purchasing one of these. Liked and shared.
It they would bring it down to $1900 for a full spec (1980p FHD) it would be compelling. I don't caer or want touchscreen myself.
@@cecilhenry9908 I got one. It will be here Monday. I got the I-9 with 4K OLED. It set me back 2300, but I have use for business purposes. Its hard to imagine it staying cool, as I have a 680X case with liquid cooling for my I-9 9900k/Aorus Master desktop. It still runs a little hot. I'm guessing the prices won't be going down much on these, maybe you can get lucky on black friday. Same model I am getting on sale is 2700 now.
@@ZackWolfMusic Mine came in smashed from shipping. Probably lucky to get new one by Christmas.
@@ZackWolfMusic I got a new one about a week ago. It made it in one piece this time. I saw a pretty good deal on a P1 gen 2 I-7 6 core with 4k OLED for about 1800 after tax. The model I have is I-9 8 core 4k OLED hasn't gone down a penny, even on cyber monday. 2300. It will probably stay at that price point for awhile. The only con so far is fingerprints, but that may be common with most thinkpads. The touchpad, keyboard, display are all top notch and I haven't had any problems with thermals even while running Premiere pro. I monitor temps with core temp.
Always include the refresh rate of the display
Does Lenovo offer a 12v car charger that's compatible with these computer for working on the road?
Lenovo may or may not, but a USB C charger of at least 60 watts would work no matter what brand.
The screen is it matte or glossy? seems to be matte despiete being oled
Great review AMD!
I'm looking at both the P1 and the X1 Extreme as potential laptops, but a downside for me is the long build times for the P1 variant. For a customized unit the P1 shipping times quoted are 4-5 weeks, vs. 10 days for the X1.
Which 2-in-1 laptop has Intel-Xeon processor
that sale ended over the weekend. but, they always have sales, esp. with the holidays coming up.
It's a shame that I am not looking for a 15 inches laptop... this one seems to be outstanding!
Such a fingerprint magnet :(
Great review!
Worried about the thermals on this one. Any suggestions?
That’s a huge chunk of change for a computer.
Which one is better for video editing ?
Loving your review!
Any chance you could review the p73?
can you install 110mm ssd drive in this?
Holy cow. That is expensive!
ok , this one i like , you finally compare things VERY GOOD ANDREW , personally I do prefer Dell XPS 15 but it is me ...have a good day ))
I still can't decide between those two and Black Friday is coming
@@marottacarlo I decide for the P1..
great review!
Fantastic video. I’m most likely going to buy it this Christmas! Quick question: can you open the laptop with one finger?
I sold a few X1's over the years. Some opened easily with 1 hand and some not. That being said it depends on the weather I think ;) I own a X1C5 myself and one day it works and the next day it doesn't (the norm is it does!). When I sold a X1C6 it didn't work the first few days setting it up but opened easily with 1 hand half a year later when the client brought it back to me.
For some reason that UHD IPS screen is not available in Europe. You either have the FHD or jump to the OLED......
I asked lenovo about it, it's a supplier problem apparently. They said it supposed to be available again in a couple of months, at least in France where I live. Seeing the black friday coming up, I'll definitely go for the FHD HDR400, besides it's the more sensible choice for a 15' laptop anyway, cheaper and less power/cpu demanding IMHO.
@@Miaou12 thanks for the update. For me the main reason to go with the 4k screen was the color space (sRGB, AdobeRGB) accuracy, which is definitely superior over the FHD option this model offers. It's even one of the main reasons I'm considering this laptop. But of course, that depends to each one's use case.
Watching this on my thinkpad p1 gen1
Superb
how is this a review when you dint even buy the products. reading and comparing spec sheet is not a review..
Watching from my X1E gen 1
Worth the Watch I’m getting a Gen2
Great review, thanks! I'm very curious about the OLED display, will you have the chance to review that?
Yes it's coming
@@andrewmarcdavid great!
Has anyone tried this with Linux? Any driver issues?
I'm considering buying this baby but I checked ahead on nvidia website, the last driver for linux has been out just 3 days ago, so I guess you should be fine.
You have to disable Hybrid Graphics from BIOS, then you are good to go. I'm not sure about the heat measure and battery life on this video, mine gets very hot.
Dream machine! Thanks for the review.
Great comprehensive review
Great Review as usual AMD!
Thank you for a great review!!
great! thank you
Lenovo needs to switch to 16:10 aspect ratio.
Only the P1 has the Xeon option, not both X1 and P1
Yes it was 3am I was tired lol
@@andrewmarcdavid lol no worries, it happens!
Any Coil Whine?
Not on my unit.
@@andrewmarcdavid Thank you
Great laptop but cant buy it since I am against Chinese oppression of minorities hence can't support the economy! Guys, any alternative from Taiwan or Korea with similar caliber?
Good review. However i question you having endorsing a web site to download illegal software keys. You are cheating Microsoft.
I also can't access it - 404.
New to the challenge and it's the best one I've found. Am not sure what to buy and would like to know your guys opinion. thinkpad p1 gen 2 15':
-Intel® Core™ i7-9750H (2.60GHz, up to 4.50GHz with Turbo Boost, 6 Cores, 12MB Cache)
-16GB DDR4 2666MHz
-256GB Solid State Drive PCIe-NVME OPAL2.0 M.2
-NVIDIA Quadro T1000 4GB
El macbook pro 13' :
-1.7GHz quad‑core 8th‑generation Intel Core i7 processor, Turbo Boost up to 4.5GHz
-16GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
-256GB SSD storage
Hell with Apple ecosystem and its locked up world. But that's just me...
A super laptop and possibly my favorite, but well outside my price range. I'm still using an E570 laptop for light programming and office work, so for my mobile needs it serves me well. For gaming I'd still rather use either a full desktop with Linux Mint or console(PS4). I used to game on my aforementioned laptop, but not any more since I'm slowly converting from windows 10 to Linux Mint. While I haven't had any major problems with W10 that couldn't be solved by simply rebooting it the updates have always come at the most annoying moments.
@@Cenot4ph Not as big as you might think. On older games I do get a good 60fps at 1080p at high.
Hey Andrew, great review. Will you be doing a review of the Surface pro 7 and the new Hp spectre 13 inch with the 10 gen Intel processors before Christmas? I'm undecided on which one to get
Yes I will be reviewing them stay tuned...
Thanks for a wonderful review of the Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen 2. Kudos.
I want a quality laptop for 3d animation. With my budget of $1200, please suggest a suitable laptop to undertake my work. Counting on your reply.
May be you can find a HP Zbook
@@TheJcGlobal thank you