Really useful and insightful. You’re good at this stuff! Looking forward to more vids and, as such, subbed! This unit is everything I wished the OP1 was but rather less expensive!
Has nearly all the main features of both the Circuit Tracks and Circuit Rhythm, and even some from the Polyend Play, all in one unit, and for the same price. I feel like this is a good value.
thanks for the vid! i think the MOVE need a "Chord Mode" for synth tracks where all the pads turn in to different chords based on the overall key setting.
Very inspiring, thank you. My unit should appear in a few days, I am going to literally repeat creating your beat using my coffee sound, of course :) Interesting to see where we will arrive in the end with these beats
You can set an end time if you want to, there is a "length" parameter. You hold shift and turn the 5th knob/decay knob to alter sample length. I quite like controlling sample length with the envelope for more ambient samples as it can be fun to let them ring out in certain parts by increasing decay.
Greate video. Maybe you can show how Move is integrated with abletone live as midi controller in future videos. I'm especially interested in controlling devices parameters with encoders and switching between devices without mice. Subbed 🙂
I was involved in developing it so have been using it on and off for quite awhile, I hadn’t used it much for quite a long time before I made this video though and quite a bit had changed since I last used it. It’s pretty quick to learn, everything is close to the surface there’s not too much menu diving or anything and overall it’s conceptually fairly clear and simple but quite powerful. Is a little bit of initial thinking just to understand the patterns of how it works but it’s all really obvious and you stop thinking about it very quickly and just focus on making tunes.
Subscribed! Best Ableton Move video so far! Waiting for more content! I already ordered Move and cannot wait to get my hands on it. What device/instrument did you use where you recorded the samples, is it just an empty drum rack?
Thanks. Yeah, you just press record, hit a pad and it records. You can do the same into a melodic track. You can load empty drum rack/sampler presets into the track depending what style of sampling you want to do.
Привет. Скажи пожалуйста нужно ли его подключать к компьютеру в первые разы использованиЯ , чтобы на 100% использовать его потенциал? У меня нет и не было никогда ableton, да и пока я хочу купить, но вот переживаю, насколько он dawless? Благодарю вас
You don’t need to connect it to a computer to use it at all. Everything works standalone, no activation or anything is needed. You can load samples onto it using a web browser on a phone or tablet if you want to or you can just record straight into it.
Is there any mpc drum grooves in there or available to import so I can use note repeat with that particular swing? Also can you use ableton’s granular delay on the wave table synth for instance ? Thanks for your super quick reply before 👌😁🤝
Yeah for sure, you can just duplicate the pad with the sample and change the start and length parameters to chop up different parts of the sample. The other way that you can do it is while the sample is being recorded you can just keep hitting different pads, each pair will have the whole sample on it but the start and length parameters will be set by the way that you played the pads. You can then edit it afterwards.
Can you trigger a scene in another way except 'quickly sliding your finger vertically over a column' and can you put together a couple of scenes to a song?
Hi dude thanx for this nice video. I have two question about Move : How about controlling other Its music Apps ? and can'i export sound about USB C / or record sound from Move to A daw ( (no Ableton) for exemple to logic) via Usb C ? thank again.
It can control Live via USB, I'm not sure about controlling any other music apps. It sends MIDI so should be mappable in other apps I guess? I have not tried this. It acts as a USB audio interface but I think it sends it's input up the computer and outputs the computer sound through it's output. I don't think you record Move's output via USB C yet but I'm not totally sure sorry. A faster workflow than recording all the different parts separately would be to transfer the set into Live Intro (which Move comes with) and render all the tracks and samples as stems then put them in whatever other program you're using.
Doesn't appear to so far, you can adjust step length, velocity and nudge steps back and forth but I can't see anyway to set probability yet. Given Live has this already I imagine this will come in an update at some point as it would be a obvious addition to round out the feature set.
Nice one mate! One thing outside the Move stuff… You are wearing a lavelier mic and yet the voice sounds really weird, like you applied some crazy background noise reduction to it so it’s muffled. Other than that keep up the good work
Huh, thanks for the feedback will check that out. I have a few mics running, it might be phasing between them. I’m not doing any noise reduction but the audio coming in through the ATEM switchers from all the different cameras isn’t always in time and needs to be lined up manually. I mostly turn off the ones I’m not using but will check. I’m trying to avoid using a massive SM7/podcast style mic in shot but that might be the way to go. Helpful input, cheers.
Not sure sorry, I got it used and it doesn't have any branding. This one is similar but has more visible screws in terms of how it's put together. empiremusic.ca/products/eam-16 The main part that's cool with the one I have is the damper knob that lets you control how long the plates ring out for. (They're wide open in the video).
I haven't used it much to control Live yet but as @ribon3000 says most of the things you can do in hardware mode work the same or very similar when controlling Live. You can control track volumes and the volume of individual pads/samples for sure.
I make drill/grime beats on a teenage engineering po-33. I like to put my snares on the 9th step in one pattern and on the 13th step in another pattern And chain them together? On the po-33 i make multiple variations of the same pattern and chain the together. Is this possible with the move? Only asking because im tossing up between purchasing this or getting another po-33 and syncing them together.......... any thoughts?
It has a "16 pitches" mode for each drum pad where the other half of the grid turns into notes and you play a single pad melodically. You can octave up and down to access more than 16 notes. So if you want to have a bunch of samples loaded but to play each one at different pitches you can do that. In my video I duplicated the pad and re-pitched it because that's how I'm used to doing it but I could have used 16 pitches on that single pad instead.
Question. Can this thing sequence external synths via midi out? I read the manual but it’s not clear whether playing back a sequence outputs midi notes / cc’s or if only playing the pads does.
At the moment you can choose a single track to output to a connected MIDI device. So you can say set track 4 to output MIDI and those notes will be sent out to external hardware on all channels. You can't output all the tracks at once or choose separate channels yet.
Nice! Didn’t know that. So it’s possible to pair it with another synth, sequence the synth with Moves sequencer and record the synths audio into a pad on Moves drum rack?
@@okaytony1540 8 sounds about right, unsure of subscription details. I'd mostly use the cloud for keeping things in sync between note and move and moving things into Live for further development. I think I'll just take projects out of the cloud once I'm working on them on my computer as once you start editing in Live you can't put the set back onto Move anyway as it doesn't have all the features. It's a one way journey. If I wanted to prepare material for move on my computer I think I'd just transfer over the samples via the Move manager. I haven't really had a need to do this yet.
Every pad in a drum rack has panning, it's the 8th knob in the secondary parameter bank for each pad. I don't think you can pad the synth tracks? At least I couldn't find a way to do that yet as they don't seem to have a secondary parameter bank. When you're using the melodic sampler on a track it doesn't have a pan control but does have a partially filled secondary parameter bank in the version I'm using so there would be room to add it.
It works as a basic USB audio interface with Live already, I'm sure USB sampling in some form would be possible. I just use the 3.5mm input so far, it sounds good.
I don't think so but I'm not 100% sure. The built in speaker is pretty limited TBH, it's better on a flat surface that say on your lap and it's easier to hear synth sounds and higher pitched percussion or samples. Don't expect your booming 808's to be super clear! It's in the ballpark of the novation circuit speaker I think? I don't have one any more so can't A/B them sorry.
@@herringson I was just looking at the channel and surprised since it's not very big. Thanks for the hard work. Can't wait to get mine. I plan to do sets with the Move, Push 3 standalone and Octatrack to mix and for fx.
It's definitely possible to chop samples, it doesn't have all the same workflows as simpler/push though. The sampling is based on the drum sampler device from Live 12.1. You can chop, pitch and apply filters but it doesn't have all the warping and slicing from simpler exactly. It does have playback effects which do some really interesting fun things with how samples playback. You can stretch, 8 bit lofi, ring mod and a few other things. You can easily slice samples across the pads and choose different slices of a longer sample to playback. It's more like chopping on a classic MPC but with some modern ways to playback and mangle the samples I would say? This probably warrants a whole video on it's own. Is it simpler? No. Does it do fun creative sampling and chopping? Yes.
@@herringson Would definitely like to see a chopping video. I've been looking for a video on chopping samples with Move all day. Chopping samples on the go would be my #1 use case. Also, how well does it control Simpler?
There is a "Loop" mode for sample playback but it's not beat based. So you can record a sample and choose how far into the sample the loop starts as a % and the loop length in MS. It's more like classic hardware sampler looping than say doing beat based looping with clips in session view in Live.
Push standalone runs Live under to hood so can run all of simpler's features. Note and Move are based on a different tech stack and their sampler simply doesn't have all those features yet. I designed the slicing workflows in Simpler when I was at Ableton, they're quite capable but simpler (despite it's name) is a bit of a behemoth under the hood when using warping it can be a CPU hog. It also has some baked in conceptual limitations that make it difficult to add things like per slice filter/envelope etc. You can manually slice (which is almost always how I do it in my own production). I'm sure some improvements will be made in this area as the importance of this workflow is clear.
@@dougcooper6120 I wouldn't say that. I would say that having every single feature from Simpler/Sampler on Move _at the same time_ for a sample is not likely to be possible as you can push Simpler into very high CPU use even with a single sample by combining features like warping with extreme pitch shift, LFO/Envelope modulations etc. With warping in simpler it's basically clip style warping on top of the already complex sampling engine in Simpler/Sampler which is very flexible but has it's drawbacks in terms of performance as you can create combinations of settings that really push the CPU. My original comment should not be taken as a reason to rule out features like warping coming to Move as it's entirely possible if the feature set is designed in the right way for a more limited CPU context. Move is probably faster than computers that used to run old versions of Live with lots of fun warping features! To be clear I don't know Ableton's plans here and don't want to set any expectations. I believe Ableton understand the importance or slicing workflows, I also wouldn't have any reason to rule out warping in some form coming to Move down the line.
![fellow fellow - พรุ่งนี้ไม่มีใครรู้ feat. INK WARUNTORN [OFFICIAL MV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QP6JyjYx_W0/mqdefault.jpg)
![[LIVE] BABYMONSTER(베이비몬스터) - DRIP | 두시탈출 컬투쇼](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UG05pxLGwzc/mqdefault.jpg)
just got mine. thank you for doing this. helpful.
That coffee pour - balls of steel man
I was meant to be sampling outside but caffeine was required before I could do anything else 😬
Really useful and insightful. You’re good at this stuff! Looking forward to more vids and, as such, subbed! This unit is everything I wished the OP1 was but rather less expensive!
Has nearly all the main features of both the Circuit Tracks and Circuit Rhythm, and even some from the Polyend Play, all in one unit, and for the same price. I feel like this is a good value.
Underrated feature of Move is how good it looks in 16:9 on TH-cam 👍 - great video!
Been thinking the same 😂
Great video! As always enamored with your explanations of filtering that even a non-musical klutz like I can understand it. Big hug!
thanks for the vid! i think the MOVE need a "Chord Mode" for synth tracks where all the pads turn in to different chords based on the overall key setting.
That’s a great idea! And it seems like something they might add in upcoming versions.
Thanks for the mahi brother, learned a lot from this
Great video, thank you very much. Super well explained. Subbed!
if they add a full blown elektron style sequencer with the coming updates, this machine will be incredible.
awesome mate ! Great work all the best from Manchester UK!!
Thank you for this! Great video and track!
Very inspiring, thank you. My unit should appear in a few days, I am going to literally repeat creating your beat using my coffee sound, of course :) Interesting to see where we will arrive in the end with these beats
Dude this is the best video on the MOVE I've come across. I have the Push 3, and would love to see more content on that as well!
Loved how you dug into sample manipulation and the use of hold to shorten the sample play time since Move doesn’t allow you to set an end time.
You can set an end time if you want to, there is a "length" parameter. You hold shift and turn the 5th knob/decay knob to alter sample length. I quite like controlling sample length with the envelope for more ambient samples as it can be fun to let them ring out in certain parts by increasing decay.
This is neat. Very good video!
Great that they included the Capture function.
Capture is awesome, I love just playing until something I like happens and then capturing it. Recording always feels stressful for some weird reason.
@@herringson Yup, I hardly ever use Record now!
Thanks. Very useful.
Great video!
Greate video. Maybe you can show how Move is integrated with abletone live as midi controller in future videos. I'm especially interested in controlling devices parameters with encoders and switching between devices without mice. Subbed 🙂
Very good video, thank you
Really well done video 🫡🙏
SOLD on both the Move and this channel (new sub)! ❤
This is the kind of video I love for new gear. How long have you had it? Was there any head scratching moments or has it been pretty intuitive?
I was involved in developing it so have been using it on and off for quite awhile, I hadn’t used it much for quite a long time before I made this video though and quite a bit had changed since I last used it. It’s pretty quick to learn, everything is close to the surface there’s not too much menu diving or anything and overall it’s conceptually fairly clear and simple but quite powerful.
Is a little bit of initial thinking just to understand the patterns of how it works but it’s all really obvious and you stop thinking about it very quickly and just focus on making tunes.
the best thing Ableton made since Note
😂
Love this
my next device ! much logical then push in my opinion
Subscribed! Best Ableton Move video so far! Waiting for more content! I already ordered Move and cannot wait to get my hands on it. What device/instrument did you use where you recorded the samples, is it just an empty drum rack?
Thanks. Yeah, you just press record, hit a pad and it records. You can do the same into a melodic track. You can load empty drum rack/sampler presets into the track depending what style of sampling you want to do.
Привет. Скажи пожалуйста нужно ли его подключать к компьютеру в первые разы использованиЯ , чтобы на 100% использовать его потенциал? У меня нет и не было никогда ableton, да и пока я хочу купить, но вот переживаю, насколько он dawless? Благодарю вас
You don’t need to connect it to a computer to use it at all. Everything works standalone, no activation or anything is needed.
You can load samples onto it using a web browser on a phone or tablet if you want to or you can just record straight into it.
Oh and I forgot an important one: can you mute and solo the 4 tracks and the individual drum pads (that would be very handy for using the Move live)
I hadn't thought to try that yet but yes. You just hold the "M" button and either press the track selector or the pad to mute/unmute.
Is there any mpc drum grooves in there or available to import so I can use note repeat with that particular swing?
Also can you use ableton’s granular delay on the wave table synth for instance ?
Thanks for your super quick reply before 👌😁🤝
Niiiiiccccceeeee! Thanks
Thanks for the video ! can you chop long sample to multiple pads AFTER you've recorded them? thanks a lot !
Yeah for sure, you can just duplicate the pad with the sample and change the start and length parameters to chop up different parts of the sample. The other way that you can do it is while the sample is being recorded you can just keep hitting different pads, each pair will have the whole sample on it but the start and length parameters will be set by the way that you played the pads. You can then edit it afterwards.
@@herringsoncan you do multi-pad recording with resampling or only with the line in?
@@filmingkeyYou can indeed do multi-pad recording in an internal resample 🤙🌌
@@herringson Thanks a lot :)
Can it side chain?
Can you trigger a scene in another way except 'quickly sliding your finger vertically over a column' and can you put together a couple of scenes to a song?
Hi dude thanx for this nice video. I have two question about Move : How about controlling other Its music Apps ? and can'i export sound about USB C / or record sound from Move to A daw ( (no Ableton) for exemple to logic) via Usb C ? thank again.
It can control Live via USB, I'm not sure about controlling any other music apps. It sends MIDI so should be mappable in other apps I guess? I have not tried this. It acts as a USB audio interface but I think it sends it's input up the computer and outputs the computer sound through it's output. I don't think you record Move's output via USB C yet but I'm not totally sure sorry. A faster workflow than recording all the different parts separately would be to transfer the set into Live Intro (which Move comes with) and render all the tracks and samples as stems then put them in whatever other program you're using.
Great video! Does it have per step probability chance?
Doesn't appear to so far, you can adjust step length, velocity and nudge steps back and forth but I can't see anyway to set probability yet. Given Live has this already I imagine this will come in an update at some point as it would be a obvious addition to round out the feature set.
Thanks so much
Nice one mate! One thing outside the Move stuff… You are wearing a lavelier mic and yet the voice sounds really weird, like you applied some crazy background noise reduction to it so it’s muffled. Other than that keep up the good work
Huh, thanks for the feedback will check that out. I have a few mics running, it might be phasing between them. I’m not doing any noise reduction but the audio coming in through the ATEM switchers from all the different cameras isn’t always in time and needs to be lined up manually. I mostly turn off the ones I’m not using but will check. I’m trying to avoid using a massive SM7/podcast style mic in shot but that might be the way to go. Helpful input, cheers.
What is that xylophone are you playing at 1:02?
Not sure sorry, I got it used and it doesn't have any branding. This one is similar but has more visible screws in terms of how it's put together. empiremusic.ca/products/eam-16
The main part that's cool with the one I have is the damper knob that lets you control how long the plates ring out for. (They're wide open in the video).
@@herringson very cool, thanks for your response and for the video!
This looks awesome but how good is this as a controller for Live? And is there any sort of mixing/volume leveling features on the Move?
hold a track button and turn the volume encoder to set track level, hold a drum pad and turn volume encoder to set and individual drum pad's level.
I haven't used it much to control Live yet but as @ribon3000 says most of the things you can do in hardware mode work the same or very similar when controlling Live. You can control track volumes and the volume of individual pads/samples for sure.
I make drill/grime beats on a teenage engineering po-33. I like to put my snares on the 9th step in one pattern and on the 13th step in another pattern And chain them together? On the po-33 i make multiple variations of the same pattern and chain the together. Is this possible with the move? Only asking because im tossing up between purchasing this or getting another po-33 and syncing them together.......... any thoughts?
Are you able to replace a drum sampler pad in a drum rack with a melodic sampler?
It has a "16 pitches" mode for each drum pad where the other half of the grid turns into notes and you play a single pad melodically. You can octave up and down to access more than 16 notes.
So if you want to have a bunch of samples loaded but to play each one at different pitches you can do that. In my video I duplicated the pad and re-pitched it because that's how I'm used to doing it but I could have used 16 pitches on that single pad instead.
@@herringsoncan you control the 16 pitches with a midi controller
Question. Can this thing sequence external synths via midi out? I read the manual but it’s not clear whether playing back a sequence outputs midi notes / cc’s or if only playing the pads does.
At the moment you can choose a single track to output to a connected MIDI device. So you can say set track 4 to output MIDI and those notes will be sent out to external hardware on all channels. You can't output all the tracks at once or choose separate channels yet.
Nice! Didn’t know that. So it’s possible to pair it with another synth, sequence the synth with Moves sequencer and record the synths audio into a pad on Moves drum rack?
did he just say "automagically"?
Can it receive midi via the usb A port? And how much project can you upload to the Ableton cloud (without a subsricption)
I saw another video where someone from Ableton said the cloud service is free for up to 8 projects, more than that requires paid subscription.
@@okaytony1540 8 sounds about right, unsure of subscription details.
I'd mostly use the cloud for keeping things in sync between note and move and moving things into Live for further development.
I think I'll just take projects out of the cloud once I'm working on them on my computer as once you start editing in Live you can't put the set back onto Move anyway as it doesn't have all the features. It's a one way journey.
If I wanted to prepare material for move on my computer I think I'd just transfer over the samples via the Move manager. I haven't really had a need to do this yet.
Will he be able to use this with a cracked ableton? Ie : will he just have to stay away from ableton cloud and transfer his projects some other way?
You can manually transfer sets using the move manager via your web browser. You don't have to use the cloud to sync projects, it's optional.
Can you PAN different sounds L-R ? Or everything sounds in C ? 😢
Every pad in a drum rack has panning, it's the 8th knob in the secondary parameter bank for each pad.
I don't think you can pad the synth tracks? At least I couldn't find a way to do that yet as they don't seem to have a secondary parameter bank.
When you're using the melodic sampler on a track it doesn't have a pan control but does have a partially filled secondary parameter bank in the version I'm using so there would be room to add it.
Do you think usb sampling is a possibility?
It works as a basic USB audio interface with Live already, I'm sure USB sampling in some form would be possible. I just use the 3.5mm input so far, it sounds good.
@@herringson thx. Got it yesterday. Absolutely the best box I’ve used!!
Nice one man! This was a great and practical overview, subbed!
are the built in speakers stereo?
I don't think so but I'm not 100% sure. The built in speaker is pretty limited TBH, it's better on a flat surface that say on your lap and it's easier to hear synth sounds and higher pitched percussion or samples. Don't expect your booming 808's to be super clear! It's in the ballpark of the novation circuit speaker I think? I don't have one any more so can't A/B them sorry.
How did you get one already? I ordered first thing and it won't be here until Thursday.
I worked for Ableton for a long time and was involved in developing Move so got a unit before announcement.
@@herringson I was just looking at the channel and surprised since it's not very big. Thanks for the hard work. Can't wait to get mine. I plan to do sets with the Move, Push 3 standalone and Octatrack to mix and for fx.
@@RobotSnake I've been doing this stuff for a long time but have only just started a channel =)
Hey Dylan! Lovely stuff, and great to see you here on YT
@AndriSoren Hey Andri, greetings from NZ!
Is it possible to chop samples like in simpler?
It's definitely possible to chop samples, it doesn't have all the same workflows as simpler/push though. The sampling is based on the drum sampler device from Live 12.1. You can chop, pitch and apply filters but it doesn't have all the warping and slicing from simpler exactly. It does have playback effects which do some really interesting fun things with how samples playback. You can stretch, 8 bit lofi, ring mod and a few other things. You can easily slice samples across the pads and choose different slices of a longer sample to playback. It's more like chopping on a classic MPC but with some modern ways to playback and mangle the samples I would say? This probably warrants a whole video on it's own. Is it simpler? No. Does it do fun creative sampling and chopping? Yes.
@@herringsonthank you very much ! Gonna give it a try
@@herringson Would definitely like to see a chopping video. I've been looking for a video on chopping samples with Move all day. Chopping samples on the go would be my #1 use case. Also, how well does it control Simpler?
Can samples loop?
There is a "Loop" mode for sample playback but it's not beat based. So you can record a sample and choose how far into the sample the loop starts as a % and the loop length in MS. It's more like classic hardware sampler looping than say doing beat based looping with clips in session view in Live.
@@herringson perfect.
That’s exactly what I was looking for
I actually quite like the move, but what's absolutely missing is sample slicing! I cannot understand the decision to omit such a crucial feature
Push standalone runs Live under to hood so can run all of simpler's features. Note and Move are based on a different tech stack and their sampler simply doesn't have all those features yet.
I designed the slicing workflows in Simpler when I was at Ableton, they're quite capable but simpler (despite it's name) is a bit of a behemoth under the hood when using warping it can be a CPU hog. It also has some baked in conceptual limitations that make it difficult to add things like per slice filter/envelope etc.
You can manually slice (which is almost always how I do it in my own production). I'm sure some improvements will be made in this area as the importance of this workflow is clear.
@@herringson That's some good info. So I'm guessing we shouldn't get our hopes up on warping being added.
@@dougcooper6120 I wouldn't say that. I would say that having every single feature from Simpler/Sampler on Move _at the same time_ for a sample is not likely to be possible as you can push Simpler into very high CPU use even with a single sample by combining features like warping with extreme pitch shift, LFO/Envelope modulations etc. With warping in simpler it's basically clip style warping on top of the already complex sampling engine in Simpler/Sampler which is very flexible but has it's drawbacks in terms of performance as you can create combinations of settings that really push the CPU. My original comment should not be taken as a reason to rule out features like warping coming to Move as it's entirely possible if the feature set is designed in the right way for a more limited CPU context. Move is probably faster than computers that used to run old versions of Live with lots of fun warping features!
To be clear I don't know Ableton's plans here and don't want to set any expectations. I believe Ableton understand the importance or slicing workflows, I also wouldn't have any reason to rule out warping in some form coming to Move down the line.
I really hate this adverts poppin up and all the creator pushin this crap.
i would break this in a week, seems like pure plastic
Nah, it's a pretty solid little unit. More solid than most other gear of this size.