Its nice to see a video of someone that's taken the time to learn the tool and share what they've learned vs. only sharing their thoughts on how the machine didn't meet their expectations of how it should work and showing nothing but complacency. Keep it up 🤘
Neat! All organic workflow, nudge, tap to see what you twist, yes note or session mode. Everyday makes appreciate it more. Love mine too. Cool grooving, Ricky! ❤
Amazing video, glad you are vibing with the Move. Makes me happy seeing more people having fun with theirs! I've been writing tracks away from my desktop rig with mine and it's been making me feel so much better about music again. 💛
I dig that you didn't give up on it, after your initial impressions your first time around. You're like that cool friend that sees the good in everyone, even though they may not be exactly perfect. It's still not for me (I'm all about the Circuit Tracks with external gear), but I appreciate seeing what it can do, and I get why it may be great for its target audience.
Longer than 32 steps loop handling is so much better on the Move compared to the Tracks. But quick, performance Circuit workflow is better in my opinion. I love jumping to a new circuit Project, jamming away with the effects, filter and even changing loop length. Then jumping back to the saved Project to continue with the track. Working with my bass station 2 in conjunction with the Tracks is also a really great experience. But, longer patterns/loops, managing samples/packs, working in combination with the Circuit Rhythm and actually finishing tracks, is a real pain. I had a project on the Move, made a copy of it, with some different synth parts. I then sync’d it to the cloud, fired up Ableton. Opened up the project, dragged over the other synth tracks from the copy of the project (so I then had 6 tracks). All done in seconds. It was a massive joy, and so ridiculously easy.
Funny thing about this is your videos keep making me look at my Push 3 differently. I start thinking, like, why am I not using presets more? Or, why am not making better use of Ableton's internal sounds? I have suite after all... I got so used to using my external synths, seeing this is reminding that there are many things just outside of the little box I've put myself in.
happy for Abelton users. would love it if there was a hardware groovebox for fl studio in this style. All DAWs lack spontaneity, so something more performative is always welcome in my book
I’ve had a couple of those arpeggiator moments with the Move this week, and either I’ve figured it out or had to look it up. On both occasions I had that same face. Ableton makes it so simple, that it’s easy to overlook the obvious. Move is a well thought out device, with a great workflow.
Better way to find out if such a device is for you than any review! (Also we‘re 4 mins in and I’m genuinely grooving to your two chord loop xD) Thanks! 🙏
I don’t unerstand all the hate about this box… have it since a week and its totally awesome! Capture, undo, mic, effects, arp, drum with 16 sound with pitched pads… what else you need?
Great track as always! Totally agree with your point at 7:58 - with proper midi I/O, this can be 4 channel multi-timbral for live settings. It’d be game over for a lot of less flexible gear. Sounds beautiful but without that feature I’m not sure I should keep this thing.
No midi is a big letdown, even just sync would have been dope EDIT: hey I just thought about something, can you pan on the move? If yes, maybe you could sync it with the p6 or with the good old po33 by sending a (sampled) sync signal?
@@shachar87l sort of but not - midi in over usb only recognizes one channel at a time right now and doesn’t recognize cc’s or clock in. It’s a bit like an auto channel where you can play in notes on the currently on track. Good for entering sequences but not if you are trying to control with other gear or use as a sound module. Ableton has heard this request and said specifically that “we hear you @rickytinez” according to a CDM post, so hopefully this gets enhanced soon.
This is a really dope tune but I think you are only scratching the surface of the device. I hope you keep the videos starring the move coming, it’s a pleasure to see you work on / with it. Thank you. ❤
@@RickyTinez Are you still playing with the Isla s2400? They are releasing a DSP card expansion that will allow VST/CLAP plugins, with other new updates such as parameter automation for the 8 faders (as is done on octatrack) It would be really cool to have a new video from you on this machine. They made a lot of updates after their first video. Thanks!
in the Akai Force we have a similar issue when using the capture button... the solution is very simple and I hope Ableton implements it. They just need to add a "Trim clip" so it trims the loop selection and gets rid of everything else, sending us back to bar no. 1
Love it! Btw, there’s a little bit of high pitched hum in my earphones. Trying to deal with usb hum in my studio, will let you know if I find a fix. Loopop mentions ferrite ring cable clips
WHOA! Did you see what happened to the nudge value when you doubled the loop, @Ricky Tinez? For me here (firmware 1.1.2) it went from 20% to 14%! And now I can nudge it only to 14, 24, 34, … percent! 😮
How come I ve never seen you with an MC 707 on your hands?!Based on your workflow it will help you immersively a lot to come up with something quick and the presets in there are really good with a lot of variety!!The 8 bar loop is a little frustrating but it is like a little ableton inside a box!! If move and Mc 707 had a child i believe the end result would be something wild and wicked at the same time,...hahaha
For me the Move is really similar to Roland MC101, but with a better sampling, and worse I/O options. May be wrong as my knowledge of devices is limited :)
@RickTinez For the life of me I can‘t figure out how you managed to add this loop at around 10:47 in the video. Where‘s this menu with these „Stabs“, „Texture“, „Vocals“ etc. entries??? Can‘t find anything in the manual either. 😢
this sounds great! ableton move coming out made me look at ableton note again and I've made some neat stuff with it :) the ableton presets and sound engines sound really nice (and they are basically the same between the two). I do wish there were, like, twice the scenes though.
Haha it's like you're cheating and just jamming out. Fun little unit; not expecting it to be the end-all be-all but I'm excited about say, jamming some stuff out on lunch breaks. Thanks for the jam, it really helps understand what's going on and how to use the unit. I assume you can't do the multiple key pitch shifting (Push 3 does this but I think it's the MPE, like pitch bending multiple notes different directions at once)?
Great as usual Ricky ! Do you think that the DT II with move would be a good combo ? I guess that the Move has to send midi clock to the DT to sync them ?
😊 Mr. Tinez! Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like ur really digging the Ableton Move! Yes? Caz I think I'ma pick one up.. and just imagine, with future firmware updates...😊
I really wanted to buy it but 4 tracks is ridiculous. Having to do workarounds is kinda shame when the point was having everything already organized as an ableton session so you could flawlessly import everything organized and not messed up, full of workaround instrument tracks on the drum rack and so on… and people still romanticize this like oh that limitations leads to creativity but no man, they just wanted to keep hierarchy so it doesn’t compete with push. Well it worked for me, I’ll stay with just push and pass this.
I think this is a cool tool for existing Ableton users who want to get their creative juices flowing without being distracted or bogged down by the laptop. For non-Ableton users, it’s just a useless toy.
Or, you know… a gateway into the Ableton ecosystem? It’s okay to learn that you like things and change your workflow accordingly, not everything in life needs to live and die by Reddit rules.
You also get Live Lite/intro so you aren’t limited to the device, which gives you greater flexibility when exporting your project to finish off in your DAW of choice
Bought one, this thing’s a toy. The acoustic piano preset is the worst I’ve heard since the late 90s. It’s a lovely piece of kit, but crippled by Ableton’s choice of what to allow on the machine. 4-note polyphony, sustain pedal doesn’t work, a very limited sound set for ambient for example. Sonic quality pales compared to a Roland MC-101. That said, the pads, workflow and sequencer are all great.
Its nice to see a video of someone that's taken the time to learn the tool and share what they've learned vs. only sharing their thoughts on how the machine didn't meet their expectations of how it should work and showing nothing but complacency. Keep it up 🤘
Your relaxed way of speaking is a secret weapon. You're subtly teaching good communication skills alongside the music-making tips.
this, exactly !
100%
Ricky is a great teacher. I come away from his vids with an unfamiliar device thinking I could pick it up and get started.
haha! Thanks for the kind words!
Very clever of them to make a piece of gear the shape of a youtube video
@@urbanorangutan Whoa…
Exactly what I thought when I first saw it :D
They definitely knew what they were doing here 😂. They cooked a good one this time around
LOL its exactly 16:9... 👀 jk not sure
It does fit the frame nicely 👌
Neat! All organic workflow, nudge, tap to see what you twist, yes note or session mode. Everyday makes appreciate it more. Love mine too. Cool grooving, Ricky! ❤
Amazing video, glad you are vibing with the Move. Makes me happy seeing more people having fun with theirs! I've been writing tracks away from my desktop rig with mine and it's been making me feel so much better about music again. 💛
I dig that you didn't give up on it, after your initial impressions your first time around. You're like that cool friend that sees the good in everyone, even though they may not be exactly perfect. It's still not for me (I'm all about the Circuit Tracks with external gear), but I appreciate seeing what it can do, and I get why it may be great for its target audience.
Hell yea, thanks for tuning in! If you have more than 1 synth you want to control Circuit Tracks is the way to go vs this thing!
Classy as ever. A+++ will tune in again. Every week like always. Great work!
Just ordered mine! Very excited.
Once they add capability for 4 tracks of independent midi out it’s gonna be unstoppable
Capture, Undo and the loop length handling already seem like a big upgrade from the Circuit Tracks workflow i'm used to. Seems fun :)
Longer than 32 steps loop handling is so much better on the Move compared to the Tracks.
But quick, performance Circuit workflow is better in my opinion. I love jumping to a new circuit Project, jamming away with the effects, filter and even changing loop length. Then jumping back to the saved Project to continue with the track.
Working with my bass station 2 in conjunction with the Tracks is also a really great experience.
But, longer patterns/loops, managing samples/packs, working in combination with the Circuit Rhythm and actually finishing tracks, is a real pain. I had a project on the Move, made a copy of it, with some different synth parts. I then sync’d it to the cloud, fired up Ableton. Opened up the project, dragged over the other synth tracks from the copy of the project (so I then had 6 tracks). All done in seconds. It was a massive joy, and so ridiculously easy.
Funny thing about this is your videos keep making me look at my Push 3 differently. I start thinking, like, why am I not using presets more? Or, why am not making better use of Ableton's internal sounds? I have suite after all...
I got so used to using my external synths, seeing this is reminding that there are many things just outside of the little box I've put myself in.
Same! I've been borrowing a Push 3 and had the same realization. I was trying to build a rig AROUND it, vs just using it lol
Dope track! Move is growing on me
Keep showing the naysayers what’s up.
Let’s get it!
facts. some down here need to move on and do better with their time
happy for Abelton users. would love it if there was a hardware groovebox for fl studio in this style. All DAWs lack spontaneity, so something more performative is always welcome in my book
lol please stop Shucking and Jiving for a million dollar company bro. This thing is Ableton Note for $400
Super inspiring jam, vibed hard on this one ✌ Also, didn't know how to change loop start/end, so thanks for that!
Love the relaxed vibe and track you laid down. Thank uou!
Amazing what you get out of these boxes, always inspiring, thanks! 🙌🎶
i see @LDre drums i upvote :D seriously you and LDre were both catalysts to take music hobby up a notch 🤟
I'm commenting a lot but...man, this is dope. Good work! ❤❤
Just pressing record and making some music, that's the vibe. ❤ it
I’ve had a couple of those arpeggiator moments with the Move this week, and either I’ve figured it out or had to look it up. On both occasions I had that same face. Ableton makes it so simple, that it’s easy to overlook the obvious. Move is a well thought out device, with a great workflow.
LOL right? I'm glad its not just me 🤣
Those wavetables sound a hell of a lot better than the circuit.
Better way to find out if such a device is for you than any review! (Also we‘re 4 mins in and I’m genuinely grooving to your two chord loop xD)
Thanks! 🙏
You are a wizard my man, amazing
this machine has been out like two weeks and Ricky is already flying around it at breakneck speeds. bro never ceases to amaze me.
I don’t unerstand all the hate about this box… have it since a week and its totally awesome!
Capture, undo, mic, effects, arp, drum with 16 sound with pitched pads… what else you need?
@@matstjean Robert Moog to fly down from synthesizer heaven and sire my children?
Knowledge is power, my man with the pro tips. The trigger envelope point is noted! Love learning with you.
Just say you wish your previous employer would make a Circuit Pro already. We all do!
LOL of course, would it have had as tight of integration as Ableton's own version? who knows.
Ricky this is so dope! Pls make some techno creations like in 2022 again !!!
Capture is so awesome, it really helps the flow
Excellent as always 😎👌✌️✌️❤
yea im buying this, the ableton dude made a somewhat subpar job of selling the move in all the tutorials they had with other youtube channels lol
Oh man, I love what you're doing and how you're doing it! This is amazing!
I’m really enjoying this device, and your video just boosted that-thanks!
Lovely mellow jam, synths sound legit 👌😎
Great track as always! Totally agree with your point at 7:58 - with proper midi I/O, this can be 4 channel multi-timbral for live settings. It’d be game over for a lot of less flexible gear. Sounds beautiful but without that feature I’m not sure I should keep this thing.
No midi is a big letdown, even just sync would have been dope
EDIT: hey I just thought about something, can you pan on the move? If yes, maybe you could sync it with the p6 or with the good old po33 by sending a (sampled) sync signal?
Can’t you send midi over usb? Just use midi to usb cable and you are set
@@shachar87l you can, but if you want to sync with other hardware, you'll have time to go trough a computer
@@shachar87l sort of but not - midi in over usb only recognizes one channel at a time right now and doesn’t recognize cc’s or clock in. It’s a bit like an auto channel where you can play in notes on the currently on track. Good for entering sequences but not if you are trying to control with other gear or use as a sound module. Ableton has heard this request and said specifically that “we hear you @rickytinez” according to a CDM post, so hopefully this gets enhanced soon.
This is a really dope tune but I think you are only scratching the surface of the device. I hope you keep the videos starring the move coming, it’s a pleasure to see you work on / with it. Thank you. ❤
Thank you for the amazing video as always!!
Thanks for tuning in!
@@RickyTinez Are you still playing with the Isla s2400? They are releasing a DSP card expansion that will allow VST/CLAP plugins, with other new updates such as parameter automation for the 8 faders (as is done on octatrack)
It would be really cool to have a new video from you on this machine. They made a lot of updates after their first video. Thanks!
Great video!! Your livestream really affirmed my purchase of the move and I’ve been loving it!
Thanks for sharing @Ricky Tinez your videos are always fun to watch. That Bass sample@0:20 😂
That shit was 🔥
D20 on the table! ❤
in the Akai Force we have a similar issue when using the capture button... the solution is very simple and I hope Ableton implements it. They just need to add a "Trim clip" so it trims the loop selection and gets rid of everything else, sending us back to bar no. 1
Hitting the right buttons the right time. I've got some pratice to do.
"Make a track before I hit the sack"! Sounds like your new TH-cam tagline.
Love it! Btw, there’s a little bit of high pitched hum in my earphones. Trying to deal with usb hum in my studio, will let you know if I find a fix. Loopop mentions ferrite ring cable clips
WHOA! Did you see what happened to the nudge value when you doubled the loop, @Ricky Tinez? For me here (firmware 1.1.2) it went from 20% to 14%! And now I can nudge it only to 14, 24, 34, … percent! 😮
How come I ve never seen you with an MC 707 on your hands?!Based on your workflow it will help you immersively a lot to come up with something quick and the presets in there are really good with a lot of variety!!The 8 bar loop is a little frustrating but it is like a little ableton inside a box!! If move and Mc 707 had a child i believe the end result would be something wild and wicked at the same time,...hahaha
I feel like Move is a few updates away from being great but I am really enjoying it so far.
I really like your Move Videos 🫶
Awesome. As usual.
Great video! I'm really hitting a stride with the Move and I'm finding it one of the most fun devices that I own.
This is really good 👍🏻
For me the Move is really similar to Roland MC101, but with a better sampling, and worse I/O options. May be wrong as my knowledge of devices is limited :)
@RickTinez For the life of me I can‘t figure out how you managed to add this loop at around 10:47 in the video. Where‘s this menu with these „Stabs“, „Texture“, „Vocals“ etc. entries??? Can‘t find anything in the manual either. 😢
this sounds great!
ableton move coming out made me look at ableton note again and I've made some neat stuff with it :) the ableton presets and sound engines sound really nice (and they are basically the same between the two).
I do wish there were, like, twice the scenes though.
Nice track.
I would like to see how it works with a usb midi in/out interface.
Nice tune, it reminds me of some of Four Tet's tracks.
Hey Ricky, not sure if anyone has mentioned but you have noticeable beeping sound in a background. It started with your live stream and still present.
Haha it's like you're cheating and just jamming out. Fun little unit; not expecting it to be the end-all be-all but I'm excited about say, jamming some stuff out on lunch breaks. Thanks for the jam, it really helps understand what's going on and how to use the unit. I assume you can't do the multiple key pitch shifting (Push 3 does this but I think it's the MPE, like pitch bending multiple notes different directions at once)?
Great as usual Ricky ! Do you think that the DT II with move would be a good combo ? I guess that the Move has to send midi clock to the DT to sync them ?
Any chance of hearing some longer-form compositions?
😊 Mr. Tinez! Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like ur really digging the Ableton Move! Yes? Caz I think I'ma pick one up.. and just imagine, with future firmware updates...😊
Fire!
Nice vid. I think I need to pick one of these up.
"Tryna' mayka' track 'afor I hit da' sack!!" 😅😎
"Make a track before I hit the sack"
There is your next song title anyone.
Free for the taking!
Any tips for chords on this thing?
Wicked 👌
It seems like you are really pushing on those pads. Are they highly responsive or are you finding them to be a bit on the less responsive side?
have your partied allot recently?
This little thing makes me with NI would make a maschine mikro+
I just can't with this thing...I need the full device
Don’t forget the groove functionality.
14:20 unexpected deep comment
you can "recall" played on MPC as well [and Logic for that matter]
Yep! It’s such a great feature. Similar to skipback on the SP404 MKII also except that’s audio. Bring it to all devices!
@@RickyTinez agree
I really wish capture was more accurate. I’m fighting mine a lot and editing isn’t great.
Also, this dude already figured out how to get 8 tracks with the move: th-cam.com/video/39YfLWaHKhU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=5jnFhOV57-DQGb0W
Ableton Move - gathering dust in 3…2…1…
yehhhh litttt
If only there were midi in and out 😢
Man TH-camrs really are just synth sellsmen.
If only the pads were mpe capable like on Push 3 ;(
You‘re starting to like this thing, eh? :D
Can you do audition?
I guess it’s just a 4-track groovebox then?
👍😎👍
👍
This would be just right for me if it was $100 cheaper
Beware! Capture is really dope! 😂
eight adds for a 16 min video
Drift has only four voices, embarrassing in 2024.
the sound that those clicky buttons make is terrible
I really wanted to buy it but 4 tracks is ridiculous. Having to do workarounds is kinda shame when the point was having everything already organized as an ableton session so you could flawlessly import everything organized and not messed up, full of workaround instrument tracks on the drum rack and so on… and people still romanticize this like oh that limitations leads to creativity but no man, they just wanted to keep hierarchy so it doesn’t compete with push. Well it worked for me, I’ll stay with just push and pass this.
I think this is a cool tool for existing Ableton users who want to get their creative juices flowing without being distracted or bogged down by the laptop. For non-Ableton users, it’s just a useless toy.
Or, you know… a gateway into the Ableton ecosystem? It’s okay to learn that you like things and change your workflow accordingly, not everything in life needs to live and die by Reddit rules.
@@MrStoicdolphinexactly!!
You also get Live Lite/intro so you aren’t limited to the device, which gives you greater flexibility when exporting your project to finish off in your DAW of choice
Bought one, this thing’s a toy. The acoustic piano preset is the worst I’ve heard since the late 90s. It’s a lovely piece of kit, but crippled by Ableton’s choice of what to allow on the machine. 4-note polyphony, sustain pedal doesn’t work, a very limited sound set for ambient for example. Sonic quality pales compared to a Roland MC-101. That said, the pads, workflow and sequencer are all great.
@@RikMaxSpeed the ability to upload your own presets is currently in Beta mode.
At least a toy is fun. The Move is just lame.
@@ChrisP3000x what’s lame about it?
"Made something dope..." *Generic techno plays
Another cut down device to collect dust.
Completely useless..
if thats how musical gear/instruments often end up for you… might need to look more internally for why that is
@@swz_tor You switched the topic from the Move to me. Strange.
a waste of time...
Haha, What is?
He's referring to all the time he's used to breathe @RickyTinez