How The Dirt Ignored Motley Crue's True Story
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2024
- The 2019 Motley Crue biopic "The Dirt" takes a look at a rock band who is just as famous for their controversy as they are for their music, so a family-friendly biopic would have just been wrong. Thankfully, the film is based on the band’s memoir, and it even stops to tell you when something is being changed for screenwriting convenience. However, there is still a lot of the story that the biopic ignores, with some suggesting that the band’s memoir isn’t entirely accurate. From the exclusion of Pamela Anderson to the weirder moments that got left out, here are some ways in which "The Dirt" ignored Motley Crue’s true story.
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The violent impulses | 0:00
Pamela, Pamela, Pamela | 1:33
Tommy Lee's hip-hop phase | 2:27
John Corabi's Role | 3:06
Banned by MTV | 4:39
Mick and Nikki: The early adventures | 5:37
The bizarre lawsuits | 6:57
The ill-fated Alabama concert | 8:28
The memoir: Fact or fiction? | 9:31
The lost guitarist | 10:30
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What were some crazy stories you've heard about Motley Crue that didn't make it into the movie?
"What are some of the DECADES of things that happened with the band that they couldn't fit into a 2-hour movie? Yes, we're that fucking stupid that we're asking thsi!"
A whole new level of stupid. Trump applauds you.
That you guys are really cashing in on "The Dirt"
@@BurnLikeAFlame Fuckface loser has to bring Trump into it
that Nikki and Tommy had a bet on who could bang the most women on tour while not showering for a month.
Almost all of them.
The main focus of the film was their wild days in the 80's, based on the book. Since the book was published in 2001, and ends its narrative around 1998, of course there's almost 20 years of more current events they're leaving out.
I'm convinced that they didn't include these parts because it would have zero to do with the movie plot. Either Netflix make a documentary or they make a movie, in this case it had to pick the things that was relevant for a movie. Strange to see people not accpeting that.
You only have 2 hours to tell a life story of 4 people. And go...
They're a bunch of losers, besides Mick. There. Done.
4 people who lived what everybody here wouldn't dream of living in 300 years.
I watched this with folks that knew and still know motley, worked with in the early days and toured with the for many years in total time on the road. They laughed through most of it saying it was a lot of calculated in accurate bullshit. Remember Tommy and nikki used to speedball, drink and claim to have even shot whiskey into their arms, this is their claim, all at the same time as claiming a crystal clear recall of the history of that time frame......it's bullshit, very entertaining narcissisticly driven bullshit!
I don't know, they basically did what me and my drunken cronies did, get drunk and bang chicks. Except they had money so it was a little easier for them to attract broads
The crue helped write the movie so if any thing was left out it was showed by them first
True, but it should have been a multi-part documentary, not a single movie. I'd like to see Netflix pick it up and make a series
Aside from the timeline being out of whack, another thing the Dirt fails to mention is Vince Neil's solo career. When John Corabi takes his place, Vince is shown as a depressed, down on his luck, unemployed bum drinking his misery away at some bar. In reality, Vince had already put together a new band and had a solo album out before Motley Crue put their album out. Granted, this is a story about Motley Crue, and securing the rights to music from another record company probably played a part in leaving some of that out. But it certainly depicts Vince differently compared to the rest of the band.
Yeah, that dry ice in the eye trial would have been some riveting stuff. Let's hope for a sequel
It’s really to bad it wasn’t a mini series rather than a movie.
It took years to finally get it done and it feels rushed.
It's very rushed the Vince character is a midget
Netflix should definitely have made this into a series.
I've seen the movie 5 times and there's still so much that is left to be desired.
I'm almost done the book and the hour and a half movie doesn't do this bands life justice.
My favorite band!!!
🤘MOTLEY CRUE🤘
This movie was great. I thought it was gonna be some cheesy biopic but it had heart
If they would of put all this in the movie would of been like 6 hours long lol
*would have. WTF???
I liked it, although the guy playing Vince Neil looked more like Garth Elgar 😁
The guy playing Vince looks just like young Steven Adler from
Gnr
He looks like a midget this whole thing looks rushed no time taken to get even the actors right
Naaa,more like a glammed out Kurt Cobain
9:53 WTF is Billie Eillish doing here ?
Also I'd like to point put, Nikki Six loves the movie and wanted it to be the way it is. He didn't care about staying 100% to the story.
They should have made seasons for each album one for live wire,shout at the devil,theatre of pain,GGG,and kickstart my heart. basically just showing all the events that happened during the albums
This is all in the book. The movie is two hours long. Things were omitted for time. That's it.
Bunch of Rock Stars not telling the truth?!? Who would think that?
Luke Zuzga they talk about all this stuff in the book.
And that's how they market themselves. And it's not just Motley Crue, and it's not just rock music. It's performers across all genres lying about their exploits. Making themselves larger than normal people who really couldn't get away with this stuff and who do they sell it to, they sell it to young people. I was a kid when I started listening to Motley Crue and that's because older people already have their idols or they've grown out of it and older people have other things to spend their money on.
They aren't lying, d-bag. They couldn't put everything into 180 min so they stuck to their early years, and had to omit quite a bit. .
@@SuperSPatrick they are too lying. There's a story in the Dirt about how Nikki and Tommy may have sexually assaulted a woman and Nikki says he was lying about that story. Bitch ass rock stars always lying about their exploits. They do that shit to puff up their record sales and their concert attendance.
@@1981CrueHead Yes because a retired band needs to boost how many people attend their concerts.
A lot of this happend after the movie ended.. Good job guys..
Pamela Anderson used to leave an impression in my pants
And an std
All the actors did a great job in the movie. I love this movie and hated when it ended.
Read the book!
Is the book better
@@joet-sk4sw yes
joe 9990 t wayyy better.
@@chickenlizard2381 how do you read?
No audible
*persons tells a story from their life*
*guy on youtube that wasnt around that time* thats not true
Kidd Skrrt YUP
Even considering all dramatization, cutting etc. they've been more honest and open towards general public than many common people to themselves.
Most of the critics would not even disclose their favourite guilt food, but still call people out on why they haven't featured it all on a 2-hour piece of entertainment.
Bigotry anyone?
Bruh you’re just attacking them, it’s entertainment
It didn't ignore it they just do what they always do to stories. It was a damn good movie
Man who would have thought that they did more in their lives after they were in their 30s
It's a Crüe concert. You need to expect hot piss, cold beer, dry ice, and other random projectiles at any time. That's the way the shit works.
I remember reading the book where the band first began. Nikki said that, to get people to go to their shows he would eat a thumbtack or f*ck a broken bottle. So, you have a point.
Actually Mötley Crüe wanted to keep John Corabi around even then. However stories and reports of the time say that the crew did not want them to Neil back. They brought him back at the behest of their management and record company. And it was also because the album itself known as Motley Crue was considered one of the low points in their career. However the good thing for that album is that looking back on it and listening to it now you can see that it really was probably one of the best albums. John Adams so much depth and dimension to the band. I have been a fan of motley Crue since I first heard smoking in the boys room. So I was one of the people who did not give the Motley Crue album with John on at a fair chance. If he has stuck around and they kept in Motley Crue would have gone in a whole new directions and probably would be even bigger now than I have ever been. What they did was bring Vince Neil back go back to their old music. The tired sounded they went through over and over. The new tattoo album was horrible. At that point I think if I was Molly Crue I would’ve brought John back and definitely have shown Vince the door.I still like the original lineup of members. However I do think that John got a raw deal because he was such a wonderful addition to the band.
John Corabi didn’t get phased out as soon as they brought Vince back, when Vince came back he spent some time on rhythm guitar before they parted ways
im glad ya mentioned mick tho
They need to do one on Van Halen
Van Halen are my guys but that will never happen. I can't imagine the Van Halen brothers would want the world to find out how disfunctional they really are...
Everything you mentioned in the description is talked about in the book.And also I don’t think anyone else in the band was there when Tommy punched his wife.
Frank F Yeah nobody else was there for Tommy and Pamela’s fight
You guys just love hating on biopics don’t you? They’re not called a documentary for a reason.
It Was A Movie Not A Mini Series Off Curse They Going To Be Missing Stories But The Movie Was Awesome
It was based on a book. Plus the band supported the movie like crazy
1:41: I can't see how she could have any case for a lawsuit, she's a public figure
Now I want to see The Dirt even more.
It is impossible to put the book in it’s entirety in a 1 hour and 48 minute film. The book is over 600 pages. But I am currently reading the book, and after about 4 chapters, I HAD to see the movie. So I revitalized my discontinued Netflix account and watched it. My God. Yes. They left some shit out. It is even mentioned when they leave out a key person. But to be honest, the actors fucking sell this! The story is good, if shortened. Iwan Rheon as Mick is fantastic! Douglas Booth as Nikki was outstanding! These guys nailed their performances and I have already watched it twice. Definitely read the book if you’re interested in their history, but the movie was excellent and well casted. I just wish they made it a mini series instead of a single movie.
_“I didn’t know they were going to bring Vince Neil back…”_
That’s a really common tale in recruited replacement frontmen for 1980s hard rock/metal bands…if ya watch a TH-cam video titled _Van Halen’s lost boy_ it features _Mitch Malloy_ whom Van Halen was gonna fill Sammy Hagar’s role _(who in-turn was already filling the role of David Lee Roth)_ & he said something to the effect of _“The band all appeared on an MTV award show & they were with David Lee Roth”_ & he left the project, and I do remember when Dave rejoined Van Halen & did _Mean Wise Magic_ but like, I think what happened was that They appeared with Dave with no real major plans, it was just one of those things…like how _Guns N Roses_ after touring with Bucket Head on Guitar *DUMPED* Bucket Head for Slash’s return…the fans who are interested in spending several thousand dollars on tickets and everything involved with attending a _Guns N Roses_ show aren’t people who happened upon _Guns N Roses_ in 2006, they’re fans trying to recapture a feeling they experienced in ya know, 1987 or 1989 & a guy wearing motorcycle boots, black leather pants, a leather vest & a top hat helps complete that feeling better then some guy with a KFC bucket on his f-Ing head…
Always loved the band! Who here watched the movie and went back to listening to A LOT of Motley Crew? Lol👍
Me I love Motley Crue I've seen them 13 times
I do recall hearing Crue screwing over an all black heavy metal named Sound Barrier. Barrier opened for Crue a few times (around "Shout at the devil") and began getting a following of their own. Crue (mostly Sixx) got upset and began trashing the band to any and everybody. Afterward, Barrier's reputation took a hit and they didn't open for Crue anymore. This is rumor that I've only seen post by Sound Barrier fans so I have no clue if any of this happened.
So, if I understand what you are saying.... Motley Crue screwed over a band that was opening for them before Crue actually started headlining. Shout at the Devil was when they were opening for Ozzy. I know because I went to the concert.
Sound Barrier was awesome
@@RockWarsWorldwide ...so, Too fast for love?
Read the book The Dirt, read The Heroin Diaries, read all of their separate bio's if you want a more accurate picture of their story. Just don't make it sound like the band members are hiding the truth, because it's out there in their own words, if you bother to look. What did you expect, it's an hour and a half movie that was supposed to detail 30 years! Of course there's a lot that was left out, Netflix should have made it a miniseries!
So how much of what they "left out" as you say was in the book? And if there was any mention how many pages covered it? Pray tell..
We heard and waited for the movie so long and it really fell short on quite a bit!
"Girl's passed out/ naked in the back lounge/ everybody's gonna score"
Saints of Los Angeles, indeed.
Just saw this movie, i really enjoyed it
Anyone know if that 900 number at the end still works?
The Dirt ignored Doc having Matthew Trippe take over for Nikki Sixx on a part of the Theater of Pain tour when Nikki was in the hospital drying out from drug use. Matthew also helped write most of the Girls Girls Girls record, designed the Drum Roll over that Tommy used in Wild Side and the biker look over the Glam Metal look of Theater of Pain. Doc McGhee tried to pull that crap again with KISS on their 1996 reunion tour when peter was unable to play a concert due to his arms locking up. Doc thought that they would just put Peter's drum tech in the makeup and no one would be the wiser but Paul, Gene, Ace and Peter wanted to be honest and the fans wished Peter well and the show went on as they say.
I don't understand why they couldn't have tried harder to find actors who looked SOMEWHAT more similar to band members. The Dirt's actors looked nothing like them, even with all alleged attempts to achieve that end.
They should've made it into a mini series.
8:01 - what do you mean by a "supporting band"???
The fact that even 1 person thought this was a good (or truthful/accurate) movie really shows how far humanity has fallen. Time for an asteroid. The world needs to start over with a smarter species.
It was a 2 hour movie, how much more stuff can they jam into it?
Everything in The Dirt book cannot be covered in The Dirt movie. It clearly would have been a longer movie. It was more of a summary or touches on the main parts of their life. Stop criticizing the movie already. It’s been out months and still you’re criticizing it. Just enjoy the movie for what it is and not what it’s missing.
Soooo they should of had a scene of somebody being partially blinded by a defective dry ice machine?! That sounds utterly riveting.
The self-titled record was lackluster??? I freakin' LOVE that record. The Crue wrote their best stuff w/ Corabi! They just should have named the band anything BUT 'Motley Crue'. It's not like people wouldn't have know who the old band members were. CREED - SCOTT STAPP = ALTERBRIDGE
Ron Williams idk I’m Vince and I’m DLR over Crab and Sammy Hagar
@@mack7235 I like both versions of each band but they were totally different bands when they got new singers.
Fun movie..makes me remember how fun we lived then...well, what I recall anyway..
I figure the book indicates they weren’t shy about telling the whole story. Simply, the movie would have to be something crazy like eight hours long to include everything. All the stuff that was included was still all rushed to keep time reasonable.
How many videos have you made about the dirt
Even though some facts were missing, I still enjoyed the movie.
I bought the Methods if Mayhem album when it came out. The bug Hit Single was a song with Lil Kim called, "Get Naked"
I love the dirt my favorite movie of Mötley Crüe home sweet home 🎭🎵🎶
As much as we would like to hope the sexual assault didn't occur...it probably did.
Who would tell a false story that clearly tells of them committing one of the most serious crimes a person can commit? I think that was an instance where they maybe were more truthful than they would like, in retrospect.
If you wanna have fun and learn a few things watch the movie but if you wanna know the story by detail read the book or documentary
These things you stated are not omissions, the movie just doesn't go that later into their careers. Most of them anyway. Plus, a film can only be so long, so how can we really consider anything in omission?
You guys are still criticizing this movie
I remember that commercial
They referenced his hip hop career when he punches the window when Heather dumps he. He has a turn table on the desk.
And isn't Pam on the magazine cover in that scene?
9:45
Metalllica Trought the Never!!!!!
It wasn’t just this film that left things out, the book is highly exaggerated. Sixx got called out about a part of that book , that mentioned he and tommy did a switch up on a girl without her knowledge. Nikki’s answer to that was I was strung out on dope at the time I was doing the book the dirt. Also corbabi said that certain things written about his time in the band were not exactly true either. Am I surprised, not really.
I didn't know that they had a commercial
Fans didn't leave rock as much as MTV pushed them out
The infamous radio interview
The members were on set advising so it should be something like it was
I dated briefly and partied with Tommy's FIRST wife in the 90's and still talk to her occasionally. She's told me about 90% of what is in this movie isn't even true, or has been greatly exaggerated.
Mick was playing with Spiders and Cowboys at the stone pony the night he met Sixx, not White Horse. You can tell there's not much effort put into these videos and that whoever wrote the script for this never read the dirt, as they pull this quote from Loudwire, rather than the book itself.
mötley crüe produced the movie. i’m pretty sure that the band intentionally included true and false information.
Too many ad breaks. Like 6 or 7 in such a short vid.
It is a movie they can't fit the full story in an hour.
if they came into the tavern I stop in, and started anything they'd have to call 4 ambulances
It’s a great movie if you want every time little detail then make them have a franchise
The "most glaring omission" is definitely NOT Pamela Anderson. Yall need to see where the story ends. I think the biggest omission was the "SEXUAL" craziness that went on. They barely touch on it when they show the apartment the band shared (killing cockroaches with hairspray).... they give a TINY hint at it when it shows (something) flying out of the womens hoohoo (sorry cant think of a more media friendly term 😂🤦🏼♀️). It was supposed to be alcohol I believe. But that was the tip of the Berg. Thede boys were NASTY! (Vince more privately and Mick was not part of it) but the things Tommy and Nikki did to and with women together.... DISGUSTING! (yeah nikki also mentions the woman he was having sex with in the closet and switches out with tommy supposedly without telling her) but it was so much more than that. Groupies, totally wasted on Motley tour buses for days, then getting dropped wherever the band felt like was common....and again RAUNCHY boys. They really dont get into that in the movie. Oh and making Tommy out to be "all peace and love"? Bahaha 😂😂 I call bullshit
What was flying out of the woman’s woo hoo is called squirting. If a man has some strong hands and longer fingers he can actually reach inside of a woman with his two middle fingers and make the motion of the come here sign and if he knows what he’s doing well in just a few minutes she will squirt out a volume of amount of liquid that I’m not quite sure if anybody really knows what it is. It’s not piss, it’s more closely related to orgasm fluid. No taste, or smell that I’ve ever noticed. Google “women squirting”, it’s all there.
@@sevinstorey4365 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you clearly do not know the "real" stories of Motley. In that apartment, and elsewhere, they were infamous for losing women's "who who's" with alcohol, foreign objects, etc.. just as when she uses a douche she can hold it in and then let it loose. They're is NO east the amount she was spraying ease her own natural juices. And just FYI... you're few solution I'd pretty funny. Many woman can do that just fine without a mans fingers or help. Is pretty common. Woman can "let it loose" like s man when she had an orgasm. Definitely not all women (in fact I think it's like 70% of women can't orgasm during the act itself... they need oral or themselves), which I'd pretty sad if you ask me. Thanks for the quite inaccurate anatomy lesson... but again... it was alcohol in this instance. Woman DO squirt the same as men. Just not all women and not ad.much as men. 🤣🤣🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ I'm sorry. I feel like there is a 12 year old trying to give women's sexual anatomy lessons to a woman. Smh. You comment "IM NOT SURE ANYONE REALLY EVEN KNOWS ABOUT THIS" is downright hysterical 🤣🤣 are you very young?????
@@sevinstorey4365 I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it's like 70% piss. It does come from the hole women piss out of and the liquid comes from the bladder, so one can only make the logical connection.
@@jojox9791 If you read the book, you'd know that the woman is a reference to Bullwinkle, a woman tommy dated at the beginning of their success on the strip. It's not supposed to be alcohol it's because tommy said she could squirt across the room which is why he stayed with her and "wanted to marry her" despite her short and aggressive temper. I don't know where you got alcohol from.
The first show was not an empty show at the Starwood and there was no fight.
What about their original singer, O'Deen?
Sooooo many damn commercials!
That Guy
use ad blockers
ye
I was expecting a series not a hour movie
The dirt of motley crue. vince neil killed someone when drunk driving and should still be in jail
There is a ton missing, because really, the central theme of the movie is the fame, drugs, and Sixx’s story of figuring out how to manage it all and figure out the band is his family. Once Sixx gets there, the movie is pretty much done. The stuff left out would have made it a four hour movie at least. The video is informational sure, but to imply they are hiding things when it has all been public info for so long, just seems kinda dumb and reaching.
2:22 ‘...an intensely ugly falling out.” Come on, He was jailed for beating his wife up, that’s much more serious than a falling out.
Nikki Sixx explains why while being on Worst Firsts interview
Did you read the book?
Motley Crue was before my time by just a little bit. But I watched the movie to see what all the fuss was about. Seems to me that they were all terrible people, except for maybe Mick Mars. When the movie tried to make me feel sorry for them, I just couldn’t. I mean... Was I supposed to feel sorry for Lee when Locklear left him? He was bangin chicks left and right. Was I supposed to feel sorry for Vince Neil when his daughter was dying? Seems to me like he did everything in his power to implode his family and alienate his daughter. It’s a terrible tragedy that she died, and I’m sure the people who really cared for her were devastated. My heart goes out to them. But I’m supposed to feel sorry for Vince Neil? Meh... They’re all just crappy people.
@9:52 on the left side, looks like billie eilish lol
Motley Crue literally helped make the movie...
that movie was nutts!
Grunge just tryna cash in Motley Crue vids but didnt take time to read the book, they left a lot out. Probably for time much less then "ignored".
yeah the book and a lot of websites about the band have mentioned all of this ,so a lot of stuff got left out due to time and to avoid getting sued
@@nicolefornuto7177 that and Grunge doesnt seem to realize that all members of Motley Crue were producers of the film and ok'ed everything before it was released.
Motley crue shouted and called the security guard a n word and led the crowd to do the same and to beat up the guard
Truly despicable behavior
It was Nikki Sixx.
@@richardbinder9662 weird cause he dated a black woman
@@ertfgghhhh That doesn't necessarily lessen a person's biases. I come from a multiracial family and at times, they can be quite intolerant of other races.
@@Tammyux that was my point, chile
I actually loved the Crue album with Corabi. It's a great album.
Corabi kind of looks like steven tyler at least hair wise
Sounds like him too!
By the end of the movie Lee was still with Heather or just broke up i dont remember. And I dont think he was doing hip hop back then either.