"What are some of the DECADES of things that happened with the band that they couldn't fit into a 2-hour movie? Yes, we're that fucking stupid that we're asking thsi!" A whole new level of stupid. Trump applauds you.
The main focus of the film was their wild days in the 80's, based on the book. Since the book was published in 2001, and ends its narrative around 1998, of course there's almost 20 years of more current events they're leaving out.
I'm convinced that they didn't include these parts because it would have zero to do with the movie plot. Either Netflix make a documentary or they make a movie, in this case it had to pick the things that was relevant for a movie. Strange to see people not accpeting that.
I watched this with folks that knew and still know motley, worked with in the early days and toured with the for many years in total time on the road. They laughed through most of it saying it was a lot of calculated in accurate bullshit. Remember Tommy and nikki used to speedball, drink and claim to have even shot whiskey into their arms, this is their claim, all at the same time as claiming a crystal clear recall of the history of that time frame......it's bullshit, very entertaining narcissisticly driven bullshit!
I don't know, they basically did what me and my drunken cronies did, get drunk and bang chicks. Except they had money so it was a little easier for them to attract broads
Aside from the timeline being out of whack, another thing the Dirt fails to mention is Vince Neil's solo career. When John Corabi takes his place, Vince is shown as a depressed, down on his luck, unemployed bum drinking his misery away at some bar. In reality, Vince had already put together a new band and had a solo album out before Motley Crue put their album out. Granted, this is a story about Motley Crue, and securing the rights to music from another record company probably played a part in leaving some of that out. But it certainly depicts Vince differently compared to the rest of the band.
Netflix should definitely have made this into a series. I've seen the movie 5 times and there's still so much that is left to be desired. I'm almost done the book and the hour and a half movie doesn't do this bands life justice. My favorite band!!! 🤘MOTLEY CRUE🤘
Even considering all dramatization, cutting etc. they've been more honest and open towards general public than many common people to themselves. Most of the critics would not even disclose their favourite guilt food, but still call people out on why they haven't featured it all on a 2-hour piece of entertainment. Bigotry anyone?
And that's how they market themselves. And it's not just Motley Crue, and it's not just rock music. It's performers across all genres lying about their exploits. Making themselves larger than normal people who really couldn't get away with this stuff and who do they sell it to, they sell it to young people. I was a kid when I started listening to Motley Crue and that's because older people already have their idols or they've grown out of it and older people have other things to spend their money on.
@@SuperSPatrick they are too lying. There's a story in the Dirt about how Nikki and Tommy may have sexually assaulted a woman and Nikki says he was lying about that story. Bitch ass rock stars always lying about their exploits. They do that shit to puff up their record sales and their concert attendance.
They should have made seasons for each album one for live wire,shout at the devil,theatre of pain,GGG,and kickstart my heart. basically just showing all the events that happened during the albums
I remember reading the book where the band first began. Nikki said that, to get people to go to their shows he would eat a thumbtack or f*ck a broken bottle. So, you have a point.
Actually Mötley Crüe wanted to keep John Corabi around even then. However stories and reports of the time say that the crew did not want them to Neil back. They brought him back at the behest of their management and record company. And it was also because the album itself known as Motley Crue was considered one of the low points in their career. However the good thing for that album is that looking back on it and listening to it now you can see that it really was probably one of the best albums. John Adams so much depth and dimension to the band. I have been a fan of motley Crue since I first heard smoking in the boys room. So I was one of the people who did not give the Motley Crue album with John on at a fair chance. If he has stuck around and they kept in Motley Crue would have gone in a whole new directions and probably would be even bigger now than I have ever been. What they did was bring Vince Neil back go back to their old music. The tired sounded they went through over and over. The new tattoo album was horrible. At that point I think if I was Molly Crue I would’ve brought John back and definitely have shown Vince the door.I still like the original lineup of members. However I do think that John got a raw deal because he was such a wonderful addition to the band.
I do recall hearing Crue screwing over an all black heavy metal named Sound Barrier. Barrier opened for Crue a few times (around "Shout at the devil") and began getting a following of their own. Crue (mostly Sixx) got upset and began trashing the band to any and everybody. Afterward, Barrier's reputation took a hit and they didn't open for Crue anymore. This is rumor that I've only seen post by Sound Barrier fans so I have no clue if any of this happened.
So, if I understand what you are saying.... Motley Crue screwed over a band that was opening for them before Crue actually started headlining. Shout at the Devil was when they were opening for Ozzy. I know because I went to the concert.
The fact that even 1 person thought this was a good (or truthful/accurate) movie really shows how far humanity has fallen. Time for an asteroid. The world needs to start over with a smarter species.
The Dirt ignored Doc having Matthew Trippe take over for Nikki Sixx on a part of the Theater of Pain tour when Nikki was in the hospital drying out from drug use. Matthew also helped write most of the Girls Girls Girls record, designed the Drum Roll over that Tommy used in Wild Side and the biker look over the Glam Metal look of Theater of Pain. Doc McGhee tried to pull that crap again with KISS on their 1996 reunion tour when peter was unable to play a concert due to his arms locking up. Doc thought that they would just put Peter's drum tech in the makeup and no one would be the wiser but Paul, Gene, Ace and Peter wanted to be honest and the fans wished Peter well and the show went on as they say.
It is impossible to put the book in it’s entirety in a 1 hour and 48 minute film. The book is over 600 pages. But I am currently reading the book, and after about 4 chapters, I HAD to see the movie. So I revitalized my discontinued Netflix account and watched it. My God. Yes. They left some shit out. It is even mentioned when they leave out a key person. But to be honest, the actors fucking sell this! The story is good, if shortened. Iwan Rheon as Mick is fantastic! Douglas Booth as Nikki was outstanding! These guys nailed their performances and I have already watched it twice. Definitely read the book if you’re interested in their history, but the movie was excellent and well casted. I just wish they made it a mini series instead of a single movie.
Everything in The Dirt book cannot be covered in The Dirt movie. It clearly would have been a longer movie. It was more of a summary or touches on the main parts of their life. Stop criticizing the movie already. It’s been out months and still you’re criticizing it. Just enjoy the movie for what it is and not what it’s missing.
Everything you mentioned in the description is talked about in the book.And also I don’t think anyone else in the band was there when Tommy punched his wife.
Read the book The Dirt, read The Heroin Diaries, read all of their separate bio's if you want a more accurate picture of their story. Just don't make it sound like the band members are hiding the truth, because it's out there in their own words, if you bother to look. What did you expect, it's an hour and a half movie that was supposed to detail 30 years! Of course there's a lot that was left out, Netflix should have made it a miniseries!
_“I didn’t know they were going to bring Vince Neil back…”_ That’s a really common tale in recruited replacement frontmen for 1980s hard rock/metal bands…if ya watch a TH-cam video titled _Van Halen’s lost boy_ it features _Mitch Malloy_ whom Van Halen was gonna fill Sammy Hagar’s role _(who in-turn was already filling the role of David Lee Roth)_ & he said something to the effect of _“The band all appeared on an MTV award show & they were with David Lee Roth”_ & he left the project, and I do remember when Dave rejoined Van Halen & did _Mean Wise Magic_ but like, I think what happened was that They appeared with Dave with no real major plans, it was just one of those things…like how _Guns N Roses_ after touring with Bucket Head on Guitar *DUMPED* Bucket Head for Slash’s return…the fans who are interested in spending several thousand dollars on tickets and everything involved with attending a _Guns N Roses_ show aren’t people who happened upon _Guns N Roses_ in 2006, they’re fans trying to recapture a feeling they experienced in ya know, 1987 or 1989 & a guy wearing motorcycle boots, black leather pants, a leather vest & a top hat helps complete that feeling better then some guy with a KFC bucket on his f-Ing head…
The self-titled record was lackluster??? I freakin' LOVE that record. The Crue wrote their best stuff w/ Corabi! They just should have named the band anything BUT 'Motley Crue'. It's not like people wouldn't have know who the old band members were. CREED - SCOTT STAPP = ALTERBRIDGE
Van Halen are my guys but that will never happen. I can't imagine the Van Halen brothers would want the world to find out how disfunctional they really are...
I figure the book indicates they weren’t shy about telling the whole story. Simply, the movie would have to be something crazy like eight hours long to include everything. All the stuff that was included was still all rushed to keep time reasonable.
As much as we would like to hope the sexual assault didn't occur...it probably did. Who would tell a false story that clearly tells of them committing one of the most serious crimes a person can commit? I think that was an instance where they maybe were more truthful than they would like, in retrospect.
It wasn’t just this film that left things out, the book is highly exaggerated. Sixx got called out about a part of that book , that mentioned he and tommy did a switch up on a girl without her knowledge. Nikki’s answer to that was I was strung out on dope at the time I was doing the book the dirt. Also corbabi said that certain things written about his time in the band were not exactly true either. Am I surprised, not really.
I don't understand why they couldn't have tried harder to find actors who looked SOMEWHAT more similar to band members. The Dirt's actors looked nothing like them, even with all alleged attempts to achieve that end.
1:26 - yes, Nikki Sixx did get himself and his manager arrested in Japan but it's not like he threw the bottle of Jack Daniels at the guy on purpose; like he wasn't aiming for the guy or anything like that. He just the it bc he was being drink and dumb and it just so happened to hit the guy in the head and I believe a Japanese SWAT team was waiting for them by the time the train had stopped at its destination lol. So yeah, in that particular instance, don't make Nikki Sixx it to be some person that seeks out violence... he was just really drunk and did something REALLY dumb... like basically ALL of us would do if we got as drunk as he'd get back in the day lol
There is a ton missing, because really, the central theme of the movie is the fame, drugs, and Sixx’s story of figuring out how to manage it all and figure out the band is his family. Once Sixx gets there, the movie is pretty much done. The stuff left out would have made it a four hour movie at least. The video is informational sure, but to imply they are hiding things when it has all been public info for so long, just seems kinda dumb and reaching.
These things you stated are not omissions, the movie just doesn't go that later into their careers. Most of them anyway. Plus, a film can only be so long, so how can we really consider anything in omission?
You forgot to mention that Besides killing Razzle Vince also fucked up the people in the opposite car for life and the POS has yet to apologize to anyone and in fact has since been arrested for DUI. That certainly wasnt in the film. Party on
@@ertfgghhhh That doesn't necessarily lessen a person's biases. I come from a multiracial family and at times, they can be quite intolerant of other races.
The "most glaring omission" is definitely NOT Pamela Anderson. Yall need to see where the story ends. I think the biggest omission was the "SEXUAL" craziness that went on. They barely touch on it when they show the apartment the band shared (killing cockroaches with hairspray).... they give a TINY hint at it when it shows (something) flying out of the womens hoohoo (sorry cant think of a more media friendly term 😂🤦🏼♀️). It was supposed to be alcohol I believe. But that was the tip of the Berg. Thede boys were NASTY! (Vince more privately and Mick was not part of it) but the things Tommy and Nikki did to and with women together.... DISGUSTING! (yeah nikki also mentions the woman he was having sex with in the closet and switches out with tommy supposedly without telling her) but it was so much more than that. Groupies, totally wasted on Motley tour buses for days, then getting dropped wherever the band felt like was common....and again RAUNCHY boys. They really dont get into that in the movie. Oh and making Tommy out to be "all peace and love"? Bahaha 😂😂 I call bullshit
What was flying out of the woman’s woo hoo is called squirting. If a man has some strong hands and longer fingers he can actually reach inside of a woman with his two middle fingers and make the motion of the come here sign and if he knows what he’s doing well in just a few minutes she will squirt out a volume of amount of liquid that I’m not quite sure if anybody really knows what it is. It’s not piss, it’s more closely related to orgasm fluid. No taste, or smell that I’ve ever noticed. Google “women squirting”, it’s all there.
@@sevinstorey4365 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you clearly do not know the "real" stories of Motley. In that apartment, and elsewhere, they were infamous for losing women's "who who's" with alcohol, foreign objects, etc.. just as when she uses a douche she can hold it in and then let it loose. They're is NO east the amount she was spraying ease her own natural juices. And just FYI... you're few solution I'd pretty funny. Many woman can do that just fine without a mans fingers or help. Is pretty common. Woman can "let it loose" like s man when she had an orgasm. Definitely not all women (in fact I think it's like 70% of women can't orgasm during the act itself... they need oral or themselves), which I'd pretty sad if you ask me. Thanks for the quite inaccurate anatomy lesson... but again... it was alcohol in this instance. Woman DO squirt the same as men. Just not all women and not ad.much as men. 🤣🤣🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ I'm sorry. I feel like there is a 12 year old trying to give women's sexual anatomy lessons to a woman. Smh. You comment "IM NOT SURE ANYONE REALLY EVEN KNOWS ABOUT THIS" is downright hysterical 🤣🤣 are you very young?????
@@sevinstorey4365 I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it's like 70% piss. It does come from the hole women piss out of and the liquid comes from the bladder, so one can only make the logical connection.
@@jojox9791 If you read the book, you'd know that the woman is a reference to Bullwinkle, a woman tommy dated at the beginning of their success on the strip. It's not supposed to be alcohol it's because tommy said she could squirt across the room which is why he stayed with her and "wanted to marry her" despite her short and aggressive temper. I don't know where you got alcohol from.
Motley Crue was before my time by just a little bit. But I watched the movie to see what all the fuss was about. Seems to me that they were all terrible people, except for maybe Mick Mars. When the movie tried to make me feel sorry for them, I just couldn’t. I mean... Was I supposed to feel sorry for Lee when Locklear left him? He was bangin chicks left and right. Was I supposed to feel sorry for Vince Neil when his daughter was dying? Seems to me like he did everything in his power to implode his family and alienate his daughter. It’s a terrible tragedy that she died, and I’m sure the people who really cared for her were devastated. My heart goes out to them. But I’m supposed to feel sorry for Vince Neil? Meh... They’re all just crappy people.
I dated briefly and partied with Tommy's FIRST wife in the 90's and still talk to her occasionally. She's told me about 90% of what is in this movie isn't even true, or has been greatly exaggerated.
6:00 - "...Sixx was reportedly working at a liquor store..." Well isn't that ironic? lol... and EXACTLY 6 minutes into the video too lol... that's even more ironic... Ironic-er??? lol... whatever
Mick was playing with Spiders and Cowboys at the stone pony the night he met Sixx, not White Horse. You can tell there's not much effort put into these videos and that whoever wrote the script for this never read the dirt, as they pull this quote from Loudwire, rather than the book itself.
@@nicolefornuto7177 that and Grunge doesnt seem to realize that all members of Motley Crue were producers of the film and ok'ed everything before it was released.
Much, if not MOST, of what the Crue did when they were high/drunk would be considered ILLEGAL today. Since all members of the Crue took-part in the production of the film, they kept most of their illegal activity out of the film to prevent any serious legal entanglements. It was a different time then, things happened that we don't tolerate today.
Who cares if the story wasn't true just look at Queen's own Bohemian Rhapsody , that had quite a few details that were changed for a so called dramatization as Holly Wood does fr most of their biopics!
I know if they included some of the more mundane stuff. Like Nikki lived with is record executive uncle and his grandparents gave him thousands of dollars for a Porsche (that was a lot more money back then). Micks parents financed the group. Vincent's father in law was a head rep in the local electricians union chapter (that's a huge hook up. Ask any one in the trades). It might have dispelled some of the rock star aura a little. They still did the work and wrote great music.
Motley Crue wrote the soundtrack of my teen years all through the 80's. Until they broke up, I saw them every time they came to Boston. However, this movie absolutely sucked balls and was a quick money maker for them.
They referenced his hip hop career when he punches the window when Heather dumps he. He has a turn table on the desk. And isn't Pam on the magazine cover in that scene?
Motley Crue is nothing without vince neil. But had motley crue continued with John Corabi and called themselves a different name similar to how Creed became Alter Bridge they could have killed it. That one crue record with corabi on it had better riffs and hooks that anything to come from the band since.
Motley Crue had productive say in the making of this movie, so they would be aware of anything missing that they wanted in. Also, this movie does NOT represent them in their entirety as a band. It should have been either Part 1 or a minimum of 3 hours long. You cannot tell the story of this band and all the complexities of each member in this short time frame. All had serious life-altering events happen to them that needed ADEQUATE time to be told. The way it ended they could absolutely still put out 'Part 2 - Everything the First Movie Didn't Say' (perhaps a better title but you get the gist). I have read my copy of The Dirt more than once and I find I have missed some detail each time so, I really do hope they do another movie. I"ll be waiting for it anyway.
I agree that a lot of stuff was left out, but I don't think that was really in the members control. Studio execs probably wanted it to be more of a movie like "Here's all the crazy shit Motley Crue did, and if they didn't want something in the movie for fear of it dragging on or feeling randomly inserted and messing up the pacing. This is why I think it should of been done more as a mini-series that focused less on being an entertaining movie that could appeal to the masses, and more on the story as it is portrayed in the book. But then again, if it was more documentary-like the movie wouldn't had brought in as big of an audience as it did, and they wouldn't have broken their contract to tour again so maybe it's a good thing it was more marketable. And anyway I feel like most people who were unfamiliar with Motley before seeing the movie would have done a little digging themselves after watching it, if it piqued their interest. After I saw the movie, I listened to an audiobook version of the dirt and the heroin diaries, and I read the dirt a couple times, but I know people my age become pretty disinterested in stuff quickly and most are solely into rap music so there's probably not that many teens who looked into the band after seeing the movie.
The book was so good I refuse to watch the movie. I am no huge Crue fan but that book would be on of my top three rock n' roll books. And i have probably read 60-70 such books.
What were some crazy stories you've heard about Motley Crue that didn't make it into the movie?
"What are some of the DECADES of things that happened with the band that they couldn't fit into a 2-hour movie? Yes, we're that fucking stupid that we're asking thsi!"
A whole new level of stupid. Trump applauds you.
That you guys are really cashing in on "The Dirt"
@@BurnLikeAFlame Fuckface loser has to bring Trump into it
that Nikki and Tommy had a bet on who could bang the most women on tour while not showering for a month.
Almost all of them.
The main focus of the film was their wild days in the 80's, based on the book. Since the book was published in 2001, and ends its narrative around 1998, of course there's almost 20 years of more current events they're leaving out.
I'm convinced that they didn't include these parts because it would have zero to do with the movie plot. Either Netflix make a documentary or they make a movie, in this case it had to pick the things that was relevant for a movie. Strange to see people not accpeting that.
You only have 2 hours to tell a life story of 4 people. And go...
They're a bunch of losers, besides Mick. There. Done.
4 people who lived what everybody here wouldn't dream of living in 300 years.
I watched this with folks that knew and still know motley, worked with in the early days and toured with the for many years in total time on the road. They laughed through most of it saying it was a lot of calculated in accurate bullshit. Remember Tommy and nikki used to speedball, drink and claim to have even shot whiskey into their arms, this is their claim, all at the same time as claiming a crystal clear recall of the history of that time frame......it's bullshit, very entertaining narcissisticly driven bullshit!
I don't know, they basically did what me and my drunken cronies did, get drunk and bang chicks. Except they had money so it was a little easier for them to attract broads
Aside from the timeline being out of whack, another thing the Dirt fails to mention is Vince Neil's solo career. When John Corabi takes his place, Vince is shown as a depressed, down on his luck, unemployed bum drinking his misery away at some bar. In reality, Vince had already put together a new band and had a solo album out before Motley Crue put their album out. Granted, this is a story about Motley Crue, and securing the rights to music from another record company probably played a part in leaving some of that out. But it certainly depicts Vince differently compared to the rest of the band.
The crue helped write the movie so if any thing was left out it was showed by them first
True, but it should have been a multi-part documentary, not a single movie. I'd like to see Netflix pick it up and make a series
Yeah, that dry ice in the eye trial would have been some riveting stuff. Let's hope for a sequel
It’s really to bad it wasn’t a mini series rather than a movie.
It took years to finally get it done and it feels rushed.
It's very rushed the Vince character is a midget
Netflix should definitely have made this into a series.
I've seen the movie 5 times and there's still so much that is left to be desired.
I'm almost done the book and the hour and a half movie doesn't do this bands life justice.
My favorite band!!!
🤘MOTLEY CRUE🤘
If they would of put all this in the movie would of been like 6 hours long lol
*would have. WTF???
This movie was great. I thought it was gonna be some cheesy biopic but it had heart
Also I'd like to point put, Nikki Six loves the movie and wanted it to be the way it is. He didn't care about staying 100% to the story.
9:53 WTF is Billie Eillish doing here ?
I liked it, although the guy playing Vince Neil looked more like Garth Elgar 😁
The guy playing Vince looks just like young Steven Adler from
Gnr
He looks like a midget this whole thing looks rushed no time taken to get even the actors right
Naaa,more like a glammed out Kurt Cobain
This is all in the book. The movie is two hours long. Things were omitted for time. That's it.
Even considering all dramatization, cutting etc. they've been more honest and open towards general public than many common people to themselves.
Most of the critics would not even disclose their favourite guilt food, but still call people out on why they haven't featured it all on a 2-hour piece of entertainment.
Bigotry anyone?
Bunch of Rock Stars not telling the truth?!? Who would think that?
Luke Zuzga they talk about all this stuff in the book.
And that's how they market themselves. And it's not just Motley Crue, and it's not just rock music. It's performers across all genres lying about their exploits. Making themselves larger than normal people who really couldn't get away with this stuff and who do they sell it to, they sell it to young people. I was a kid when I started listening to Motley Crue and that's because older people already have their idols or they've grown out of it and older people have other things to spend their money on.
They aren't lying, d-bag. They couldn't put everything into 180 min so they stuck to their early years, and had to omit quite a bit. .
@@SuperSPatrick they are too lying. There's a story in the Dirt about how Nikki and Tommy may have sexually assaulted a woman and Nikki says he was lying about that story. Bitch ass rock stars always lying about their exploits. They do that shit to puff up their record sales and their concert attendance.
@@1981CrueHead Yes because a retired band needs to boost how many people attend their concerts.
They should have made seasons for each album one for live wire,shout at the devil,theatre of pain,GGG,and kickstart my heart. basically just showing all the events that happened during the albums
A lot of this happend after the movie ended.. Good job guys..
It's a Crüe concert. You need to expect hot piss, cold beer, dry ice, and other random projectiles at any time. That's the way the shit works.
I remember reading the book where the band first began. Nikki said that, to get people to go to their shows he would eat a thumbtack or f*ck a broken bottle. So, you have a point.
Pamela Anderson used to leave an impression in my pants
And an std
Man who would have thought that they did more in their lives after they were in their 30s
All the actors did a great job in the movie. I love this movie and hated when it ended.
Actually Mötley Crüe wanted to keep John Corabi around even then. However stories and reports of the time say that the crew did not want them to Neil back. They brought him back at the behest of their management and record company. And it was also because the album itself known as Motley Crue was considered one of the low points in their career. However the good thing for that album is that looking back on it and listening to it now you can see that it really was probably one of the best albums. John Adams so much depth and dimension to the band. I have been a fan of motley Crue since I first heard smoking in the boys room. So I was one of the people who did not give the Motley Crue album with John on at a fair chance. If he has stuck around and they kept in Motley Crue would have gone in a whole new directions and probably would be even bigger now than I have ever been. What they did was bring Vince Neil back go back to their old music. The tired sounded they went through over and over. The new tattoo album was horrible. At that point I think if I was Molly Crue I would’ve brought John back and definitely have shown Vince the door.I still like the original lineup of members. However I do think that John got a raw deal because he was such a wonderful addition to the band.
John Corabi didn’t get phased out as soon as they brought Vince back, when Vince came back he spent some time on rhythm guitar before they parted ways
It didn't ignore it they just do what they always do to stories. It was a damn good movie
1:41: I can't see how she could have any case for a lawsuit, she's a public figure
im glad ya mentioned mick tho
Read the book!
Is the book better
@@joet-sk4sw yes
joe 9990 t wayyy better.
@@chickenlizard2381 how do you read?
No audible
I do recall hearing Crue screwing over an all black heavy metal named Sound Barrier. Barrier opened for Crue a few times (around "Shout at the devil") and began getting a following of their own. Crue (mostly Sixx) got upset and began trashing the band to any and everybody. Afterward, Barrier's reputation took a hit and they didn't open for Crue anymore. This is rumor that I've only seen post by Sound Barrier fans so I have no clue if any of this happened.
So, if I understand what you are saying.... Motley Crue screwed over a band that was opening for them before Crue actually started headlining. Shout at the Devil was when they were opening for Ozzy. I know because I went to the concert.
Sound Barrier was awesome
@@RockWarsWorldwide ...so, Too fast for love?
The fact that even 1 person thought this was a good (or truthful/accurate) movie really shows how far humanity has fallen. Time for an asteroid. The world needs to start over with a smarter species.
It was based on a book. Plus the band supported the movie like crazy
It Was A Movie Not A Mini Series Off Curse They Going To Be Missing Stories But The Movie Was Awesome
The Dirt ignored Doc having Matthew Trippe take over for Nikki Sixx on a part of the Theater of Pain tour when Nikki was in the hospital drying out from drug use. Matthew also helped write most of the Girls Girls Girls record, designed the Drum Roll over that Tommy used in Wild Side and the biker look over the Glam Metal look of Theater of Pain. Doc McGhee tried to pull that crap again with KISS on their 1996 reunion tour when peter was unable to play a concert due to his arms locking up. Doc thought that they would just put Peter's drum tech in the makeup and no one would be the wiser but Paul, Gene, Ace and Peter wanted to be honest and the fans wished Peter well and the show went on as they say.
It is impossible to put the book in it’s entirety in a 1 hour and 48 minute film. The book is over 600 pages. But I am currently reading the book, and after about 4 chapters, I HAD to see the movie. So I revitalized my discontinued Netflix account and watched it. My God. Yes. They left some shit out. It is even mentioned when they leave out a key person. But to be honest, the actors fucking sell this! The story is good, if shortened. Iwan Rheon as Mick is fantastic! Douglas Booth as Nikki was outstanding! These guys nailed their performances and I have already watched it twice. Definitely read the book if you’re interested in their history, but the movie was excellent and well casted. I just wish they made it a mini series instead of a single movie.
Everything in The Dirt book cannot be covered in The Dirt movie. It clearly would have been a longer movie. It was more of a summary or touches on the main parts of their life. Stop criticizing the movie already. It’s been out months and still you’re criticizing it. Just enjoy the movie for what it is and not what it’s missing.
Always loved the band! Who here watched the movie and went back to listening to A LOT of Motley Crew? Lol👍
Me I love Motley Crue I've seen them 13 times
Everything you mentioned in the description is talked about in the book.And also I don’t think anyone else in the band was there when Tommy punched his wife.
Frank F Yeah nobody else was there for Tommy and Pamela’s fight
Bruh you’re just attacking them, it’s entertainment
"Girl's passed out/ naked in the back lounge/ everybody's gonna score"
Saints of Los Angeles, indeed.
Soooo they should of had a scene of somebody being partially blinded by a defective dry ice machine?! That sounds utterly riveting.
Read the book The Dirt, read The Heroin Diaries, read all of their separate bio's if you want a more accurate picture of their story. Just don't make it sound like the band members are hiding the truth, because it's out there in their own words, if you bother to look. What did you expect, it's an hour and a half movie that was supposed to detail 30 years! Of course there's a lot that was left out, Netflix should have made it a miniseries!
Now I want to see The Dirt even more.
*persons tells a story from their life*
*guy on youtube that wasnt around that time* thats not true
Kidd Skrrt YUP
_“I didn’t know they were going to bring Vince Neil back…”_
That’s a really common tale in recruited replacement frontmen for 1980s hard rock/metal bands…if ya watch a TH-cam video titled _Van Halen’s lost boy_ it features _Mitch Malloy_ whom Van Halen was gonna fill Sammy Hagar’s role _(who in-turn was already filling the role of David Lee Roth)_ & he said something to the effect of _“The band all appeared on an MTV award show & they were with David Lee Roth”_ & he left the project, and I do remember when Dave rejoined Van Halen & did _Mean Wise Magic_ but like, I think what happened was that They appeared with Dave with no real major plans, it was just one of those things…like how _Guns N Roses_ after touring with Bucket Head on Guitar *DUMPED* Bucket Head for Slash’s return…the fans who are interested in spending several thousand dollars on tickets and everything involved with attending a _Guns N Roses_ show aren’t people who happened upon _Guns N Roses_ in 2006, they’re fans trying to recapture a feeling they experienced in ya know, 1987 or 1989 & a guy wearing motorcycle boots, black leather pants, a leather vest & a top hat helps complete that feeling better then some guy with a KFC bucket on his f-Ing head…
The self-titled record was lackluster??? I freakin' LOVE that record. The Crue wrote their best stuff w/ Corabi! They just should have named the band anything BUT 'Motley Crue'. It's not like people wouldn't have know who the old band members were. CREED - SCOTT STAPP = ALTERBRIDGE
Ron Williams idk I’m Vince and I’m DLR over Crab and Sammy Hagar
@@mack7235 I like both versions of each band but they were totally different bands when they got new singers.
They need to do one on Van Halen
Van Halen are my guys but that will never happen. I can't imagine the Van Halen brothers would want the world to find out how disfunctional they really are...
I figure the book indicates they weren’t shy about telling the whole story. Simply, the movie would have to be something crazy like eight hours long to include everything. All the stuff that was included was still all rushed to keep time reasonable.
You guys just love hating on biopics don’t you? They’re not called a documentary for a reason.
As much as we would like to hope the sexual assault didn't occur...it probably did.
Who would tell a false story that clearly tells of them committing one of the most serious crimes a person can commit? I think that was an instance where they maybe were more truthful than they would like, in retrospect.
It wasn’t just this film that left things out, the book is highly exaggerated. Sixx got called out about a part of that book , that mentioned he and tommy did a switch up on a girl without her knowledge. Nikki’s answer to that was I was strung out on dope at the time I was doing the book the dirt. Also corbabi said that certain things written about his time in the band were not exactly true either. Am I surprised, not really.
2:22 ‘...an intensely ugly falling out.” Come on, He was jailed for beating his wife up, that’s much more serious than a falling out.
Even though some facts were missing, I still enjoyed the movie.
I don't understand why they couldn't have tried harder to find actors who looked SOMEWHAT more similar to band members. The Dirt's actors looked nothing like them, even with all alleged attempts to achieve that end.
1:26 - yes, Nikki Sixx did get himself and his manager arrested in Japan but it's not like he threw the bottle of Jack Daniels at the guy on purpose; like he wasn't aiming for the guy or anything like that. He just the it bc he was being drink and dumb and it just so happened to hit the guy in the head and I believe a Japanese SWAT team was waiting for them by the time the train had stopped at its destination lol. So yeah, in that particular instance, don't make Nikki Sixx it to be some person that seeks out violence... he was just really drunk and did something REALLY dumb... like basically ALL of us would do if we got as drunk as he'd get back in the day lol
There is a ton missing, because really, the central theme of the movie is the fame, drugs, and Sixx’s story of figuring out how to manage it all and figure out the band is his family. Once Sixx gets there, the movie is pretty much done. The stuff left out would have made it a four hour movie at least. The video is informational sure, but to imply they are hiding things when it has all been public info for so long, just seems kinda dumb and reaching.
These things you stated are not omissions, the movie just doesn't go that later into their careers. Most of them anyway. Plus, a film can only be so long, so how can we really consider anything in omission?
You forgot to mention that Besides killing Razzle Vince also fucked up the people in the opposite car for life and the POS has yet to apologize to anyone and in fact has since been arrested for DUI. That certainly wasnt in the film. Party on
Motley crue shouted and called the security guard a n word and led the crowd to do the same and to beat up the guard
Truly despicable behavior
It was Nikki Sixx.
@@richardbinder9662 weird cause he dated a black woman
@@ertfgghhhh That doesn't necessarily lessen a person's biases. I come from a multiracial family and at times, they can be quite intolerant of other races.
@@Tammyux that was my point, chile
Just saw this movie, i really enjoyed it
The "most glaring omission" is definitely NOT Pamela Anderson. Yall need to see where the story ends. I think the biggest omission was the "SEXUAL" craziness that went on. They barely touch on it when they show the apartment the band shared (killing cockroaches with hairspray).... they give a TINY hint at it when it shows (something) flying out of the womens hoohoo (sorry cant think of a more media friendly term 😂🤦🏼♀️). It was supposed to be alcohol I believe. But that was the tip of the Berg. Thede boys were NASTY! (Vince more privately and Mick was not part of it) but the things Tommy and Nikki did to and with women together.... DISGUSTING! (yeah nikki also mentions the woman he was having sex with in the closet and switches out with tommy supposedly without telling her) but it was so much more than that. Groupies, totally wasted on Motley tour buses for days, then getting dropped wherever the band felt like was common....and again RAUNCHY boys. They really dont get into that in the movie. Oh and making Tommy out to be "all peace and love"? Bahaha 😂😂 I call bullshit
What was flying out of the woman’s woo hoo is called squirting. If a man has some strong hands and longer fingers he can actually reach inside of a woman with his two middle fingers and make the motion of the come here sign and if he knows what he’s doing well in just a few minutes she will squirt out a volume of amount of liquid that I’m not quite sure if anybody really knows what it is. It’s not piss, it’s more closely related to orgasm fluid. No taste, or smell that I’ve ever noticed. Google “women squirting”, it’s all there.
@@sevinstorey4365 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you clearly do not know the "real" stories of Motley. In that apartment, and elsewhere, they were infamous for losing women's "who who's" with alcohol, foreign objects, etc.. just as when she uses a douche she can hold it in and then let it loose. They're is NO east the amount she was spraying ease her own natural juices. And just FYI... you're few solution I'd pretty funny. Many woman can do that just fine without a mans fingers or help. Is pretty common. Woman can "let it loose" like s man when she had an orgasm. Definitely not all women (in fact I think it's like 70% of women can't orgasm during the act itself... they need oral or themselves), which I'd pretty sad if you ask me. Thanks for the quite inaccurate anatomy lesson... but again... it was alcohol in this instance. Woman DO squirt the same as men. Just not all women and not ad.much as men. 🤣🤣🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ I'm sorry. I feel like there is a 12 year old trying to give women's sexual anatomy lessons to a woman. Smh. You comment "IM NOT SURE ANYONE REALLY EVEN KNOWS ABOUT THIS" is downright hysterical 🤣🤣 are you very young?????
@@sevinstorey4365 I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it's like 70% piss. It does come from the hole women piss out of and the liquid comes from the bladder, so one can only make the logical connection.
@@jojox9791 If you read the book, you'd know that the woman is a reference to Bullwinkle, a woman tommy dated at the beginning of their success on the strip. It's not supposed to be alcohol it's because tommy said she could squirt across the room which is why he stayed with her and "wanted to marry her" despite her short and aggressive temper. I don't know where you got alcohol from.
Motley Crue was before my time by just a little bit. But I watched the movie to see what all the fuss was about. Seems to me that they were all terrible people, except for maybe Mick Mars. When the movie tried to make me feel sorry for them, I just couldn’t. I mean... Was I supposed to feel sorry for Lee when Locklear left him? He was bangin chicks left and right. Was I supposed to feel sorry for Vince Neil when his daughter was dying? Seems to me like he did everything in his power to implode his family and alienate his daughter. It’s a terrible tragedy that she died, and I’m sure the people who really cared for her were devastated. My heart goes out to them. But I’m supposed to feel sorry for Vince Neil? Meh... They’re all just crappy people.
I dated briefly and partied with Tommy's FIRST wife in the 90's and still talk to her occasionally. She's told me about 90% of what is in this movie isn't even true, or has been greatly exaggerated.
They should've made it into a mini series.
6:00 - "...Sixx was reportedly working at a liquor store..."
Well isn't that ironic? lol... and EXACTLY 6 minutes into the video too lol... that's even more ironic... Ironic-er??? lol... whatever
mötley crüe produced the movie. i’m pretty sure that the band intentionally included true and false information.
The dirt of motley crue. vince neil killed someone when drunk driving and should still be in jail
if they came into the tavern I stop in, and started anything they'd have to call 4 ambulances
Too many ad breaks. Like 6 or 7 in such a short vid.
If you wanna have fun and learn a few things watch the movie but if you wanna know the story by detail read the book or documentary
Fans didn't leave rock as much as MTV pushed them out
We heard and waited for the movie so long and it really fell short on quite a bit!
Mick was playing with Spiders and Cowboys at the stone pony the night he met Sixx, not White Horse. You can tell there's not much effort put into these videos and that whoever wrote the script for this never read the dirt, as they pull this quote from Loudwire, rather than the book itself.
Dirt ignores???? Motley wrote it. THEY ignored it
8:01 - what do you mean by a "supporting band"???
Grunge just tryna cash in Motley Crue vids but didnt take time to read the book, they left a lot out. Probably for time much less then "ignored".
yeah the book and a lot of websites about the band have mentioned all of this ,so a lot of stuff got left out due to time and to avoid getting sued
@@nicolefornuto7177 that and Grunge doesnt seem to realize that all members of Motley Crue were producers of the film and ok'ed everything before it was released.
So how much of what they "left out" as you say was in the book? And if there was any mention how many pages covered it? Pray tell..
They're PROBABLY not lying..
You don't get a reputation like that w/o backing it up in a few instances.
Much, if not MOST, of what the Crue did when they were high/drunk would be considered ILLEGAL today. Since all members of the Crue took-part in the production of the film, they kept most of their illegal activity out of the film to prevent any serious legal entanglements. It was a different time then, things happened that we don't tolerate today.
Who cares if the story wasn't true just look at Queen's own Bohemian Rhapsody , that had quite a few details that were changed for a so called dramatization as Holly Wood does fr most of their biopics!
yeah exactly it's a biopic not a documentary
You guys are still criticizing this movie
I actually loved the Crue album with Corabi. It's a great album.
It was a 2 hour movie, how much more stuff can they jam into it?
I know if they included some of the more mundane stuff. Like Nikki lived with is record executive uncle and his grandparents gave him thousands of dollars for a Porsche (that was a lot more money back then). Micks parents financed the group. Vincent's father in law was a head rep in the local electricians union chapter (that's a huge hook up. Ask any one in the trades). It might have dispelled some of the rock star aura a little. They still did the work and wrote great music.
His grandparents didn't give him thousands of dollars for a Porsche, they cosigned a loan with him and he paid them back not that long after.
@@mcmuffin_stuffin that's rock n roll af yo
Motley Crue wrote the soundtrack of my teen years all through the 80's. Until they broke up, I saw them every time they came to Boston. However, this movie absolutely sucked balls and was a quick money maker for them.
They referenced his hip hop career when he punches the window when Heather dumps he. He has a turn table on the desk.
And isn't Pam on the magazine cover in that scene?
You guys should make a video titled "How a movie about a burnt out 80s rock band inspired many girls to wear their shirts and fangirl over nikki sixx"
Caleb Heney Leave
@@mack7235 no, im actually a motley crue fan, i just know how to be real.
Motley Crue literally helped make the movie...
Fun movie..makes me remember how fun we lived then...well, what I recall anyway..
Motley Crue is nothing without vince neil. But had motley crue continued with John Corabi and called themselves a different name similar to how Creed became Alter Bridge they could have killed it. That one crue record with corabi on it had better riffs and hooks that anything to come from the band since.
9:45
Metalllica Trought the Never!!!!!
As a HUGE Crue fan, I was very disappointed with the movie. Sorta fun, but...
Motley Crue had productive say in the making of this movie, so they would be aware of anything missing that they wanted in. Also, this movie does NOT represent them in their entirety as a band. It should have been either Part 1 or a minimum of 3 hours long. You cannot tell the story of this band and all the complexities of each member in this short time frame. All had serious life-altering events happen to them that needed ADEQUATE time to be told. The way it ended they could absolutely still put out 'Part 2 - Everything the First Movie Didn't Say' (perhaps a better title but you get the gist). I have read my copy of The Dirt more than once and I find I have missed some detail each time so, I really do hope they do another movie. I"ll be waiting for it anyway.
I agree that a lot of stuff was left out, but I don't think that was really in the members control. Studio execs probably wanted it to be more of a movie like "Here's all the crazy shit Motley Crue did, and if they didn't want something in the movie for fear of it dragging on or feeling randomly inserted and messing up the pacing. This is why I think it should of been done more as a mini-series that focused less on being an entertaining movie that could appeal to the masses, and more on the story as it is portrayed in the book. But then again, if it was more documentary-like the movie wouldn't had brought in as big of an audience as it did, and they wouldn't have broken their contract to tour again so maybe it's a good thing it was more marketable. And anyway I feel like most people who were unfamiliar with Motley before seeing the movie would have done a little digging themselves after watching it, if it piqued their interest. After I saw the movie, I listened to an audiobook version of the dirt and the heroin diaries, and I read the dirt a couple times, but I know people my age become pretty disinterested in stuff quickly and most are solely into rap music so there's probably not that many teens who looked into the band after seeing the movie.
dear everyone nit picking the movie, motley crue literally produced the movie, this was their choice
I was expecting a series not a hour movie
The infamous radio interview
The album with John was pretty good, I thought. Just came out at the wrong time. Few years before that it probably would have done well.
Most of these things sound like nitpicks. Compared to Lords of Chaos this movie is a masterpiece
The book was so good I refuse to watch the movie. I am no huge Crue fan but that book would be on of my top three rock n' roll books. And i have probably read 60-70 such books.
I bought the Methods if Mayhem album when it came out. The bug Hit Single was a song with Lil Kim called, "Get Naked"