For anyone who knows what Mick Mars went through physically, then nothing but absolute respect should be given to him. Ankylosing Spondylitis is so incredibly painful & debilitating that I am not even sure how he did what he did for as many years as he did it. I couldn't imagine there would be enough alcohol and meds on the planet to get through it. Mad props to Mick Mars.
I have spondylitis, it's utter hell. Pain is distracting at best, and debilitating at times. Pain meds are addictive and can mask signals to your body that you need to CHILL..
@@GypsyDanger514 I like John 5 & honestly believe he is a super talented guitarist but stylistically, they're not the same. I was kinda shocked Nikki didn't try to get DJ Ashba to replace the irreplaceable MM.
I agree Mick was in much pain. I saw Mick at the Omni Party, and he was still youngish, but he was not having much fun. He sat on a sofa, drank vodka as I recall, a LOT! He was stoic, quiet, people would come sit near him, try to talk, but Mick was not into it. I asked Mick, “WHAT ARE YOU DOING, DUDE?” that night. Two words…”PEOPLE WATCHING.” Mick was an island unto himself in a room a sex, drugs, booze, and he WAS rock and roll. I have not seen much of Mick, or Vince, only Tommy-Gun and Sixx. That was prepandemic. Have been in ATL and CHI-Town since then. Mick, if you get wind of GS LEE (the Novelist from ATL) you called me the “pen pusher” always, lol, take care, Bro. GS Lee, or G.
I Personally loved the film version, yes a lot was altered, yes a lot was left out but portraying 30years in hour and half I think they did just fine. The actors playing the band were brilliant and pretty much had them down to a T. All of the above differences however are mentioned in the book of the same name. The book is very detailed, it made me laugh, cry, cringe and feel utterly disgusted at times. I think the movie dumbed much of their journey down yet still managed to highlight just what an awesome band they are. The Crue are currently smashing their way back into peoples lives from the back of this movie and opening up opportunities for a younger generation to appreciate just how fine they are.
They really needed to make this like a 3 part mini series. There’s a lot to cram into an hour and a half like you said. Lots were left out of kinda glossed over, but I agree not so much as blatant lies
I remember seeing Motley Crue about 7 years ago. The second is mick hit the last note of the last song on his guitar he tossed his guitar off and laid flat on an amp with his hands on his face. Curtain fell the rest of the band said it’s thank yous. Mick was in so much pain but he finished the show. Nothing but respect for him for then on
Click-baity title. I love the book way more than the movie, but claiming they were "lies" instead of cleanups for a movie version is a bit of a stretch.
When there's any biography about a band or artist it can and always will stretch the truth at times nobody will ever know the complete truth accept the band themselves
This movie advertised itself as accurate. "Clean-ups" as a euphemism for making the woman attack first before she gets punched, and then ignoring several other cases of assault is also misleading.
Harry Willmore Actually the book describes her as calling his mom a cunt and stabbing Tommy with a pen too. It’s just he was less repentant after punching her IRL.
The movie is only semi accurate like all biographies it's the cleaned up version of what really happened I have a friend that knows Tommy and Vince personally he went to school with them.
Another slight inaccuracy in the dirt was Skylar herself. She appears in the scene when Vince watches the TV broadcasting Sixx's "death". Sixx overdosed in 1987, but Skylar wasn't born until 1991.
Exactly and I think machine gun Kelly did an excellent job playing Tommy Lee, 👏🏻 I don't think anyone else could have played that crazy dude as well as MGK...🤙🏻🤘🏻🥁
Talk about loyalty, friendship, and dedication to your fellow band members. Nikki Sixx allowed Mick Mars to go through a hip replacement and therapy to learn tp play again to keep him in Motley Crue instead of seeking another guitarist! That's awesome!!
Saw Motley Crue live in Sydney, May 1990 with their Dr Feelgood tour. Highlights include...the entire set, especially Tommy Lee's drum solo strapped in, upside down above the crowd. Awesome show.
It was probably Lars Ulrich. Lars said they used to stand in front of the Rainbow or the Whiskey, wherever the Crüe played and picked on them makes me think it was him. Lars said they could never catch him or James because they couldn't run in high heels.
On top of the fact that literally ANYONE who knows about Motley Crue DEFINITELY knows about Ratt..that was a dumb toss-away statement this dude makes in this video. One of many....
It’s so weird seeing things with Vince Neil because when I was younger my dad worked at Vince Neil ink (Vince’s tattoo shop on the strip) and I really didn’t know about his band and only really saw him as my dads boss lol
I can honestly say Mick Mars is a really great guy. When they were on the shout at the 🤘devil tour I went backstage and met them all. Mick sat and drank a beer with me and talked to me for quite a while. It was a fun and entertaining conversation and Mick was very much a gentleman in comparison to his band mates 😀😊. Nikki was really sweet and Tommy and Vince were on the trail looking to hook up with some other chick's. Lol 😆🤣. I had a good time just chilling with Mick ❤
@@r2d2musk6 what are you like 12? This was way back over 30yrs ago. Probably before you existed. Grow up. And if you are your sad af. What a childish comment 🙄
I feel like the movie hit all of the key moments correctly while joing 15+ years of action into one movie as best as it could. ive watched it three times already
*** That sorry excuse for a singer [Penguin from Batman is Rob Halford by comparison] killed one person, left two others with permanent brain damage, but BARELY $PENT THIRTY DAY$ IN PRI$ON. Like enough, any identical DUI brought to Ju$tice will draw the same "penalty"...
I studied music in the early 80s, played full-time rock and roll though the 80s. It was an interesting time to be on the road throughout the country. We were playing in Pasedena, Texas in 1984, and this couple came up to me and my guitarist (we are still friends today) and they asked us why we weren't spitting on them (we thought that that was so strange). We still talk about that story to this day. We saw a million things and could tell you 2 million stories.
They need to do a movie about Guns N Roses. They are one of the most iconic bands in Rock history. Their up bringing of the band would make for such a great documentary.
I wouldn’t call these LIES, I would call these EXAGGERATIONS, to make the movie more dramatic otherwise it would be a lot less more boring or “real life.”
i spotted characters in the sixx overdose scene that dont have any lines but do look alot like, slash and steven adler. its more like an easter egg, theres probably loads more if you look for them.
Wrong points in the video 1) The story about the 1st gig is true (nikki sixx interview) 2) Slash and Steven Adler are in the overdose scene! 3)The band name “Suite 19” is mentioned in the movie by Tommy Lee himself
@@SYNAPTIKMETAL The book was written by Nikki and the movie gets a lot of content from the book. (EDIT: Almost all) You're right, but it was the 80s. Couldn't record everything, and people have witnessed the crazy shit they've done, including that shit at their first gig. The best part is you either believe this shit happened or not, and nobody fucking cares either way. How would you function in a time without a reliance on pictures? You'd probably go mad from the skepticism of everything you hear or you'd realize you aren't so skeptical, and many things are easily believable without being seen. Can't take a man at his word so what is yours worth? It's up to you, though.
@@bkhai1041 Ha Ha. No worries. I know not everyone blindly believes their hyped up antics. They aren't so gullible. But I guess the truth wouldn't sell books would it. #Chinesewhispers
Most of the stories were all BS and the oneson film were so scripted its a joke. Like vinces limo ride with the 2 bitches on hollywood blvd. Yeah THAT JUST HAPPENED. LMFAO.
Don't drink and drive. Hanoi rocks stated that all the rest of Mötley Crüe apologized, but Vince was unrepentant despite paralysing two and the death of Razzle, and Andy McCoy has hated Vince ever since.
Not necessarily... just cause their names are on the credits doesn’t mean anything. It could’ve just meant they were brought on and interviewed for fact checking.
Don't drink and drive. Hanoi rocks stated that all the rest of Mötley Crüe apologized, but Vince was unrepentant despite paralysing two and the death of Razzle, and Andy McCoy has hated Vince ever since.
@@lookingforsomething hence the "dumb decisions" razzle and vince were both drinking, Vince and Razzle both made the decision to go on the beer run together, Vince didnt kidnap the guy, they both said fuck it and drove to get more alcohol.
That’s funny, I thought he looked more like Ramsey Bolton from Game Of Thrones. The guy who played Ozzy may not have looked much like Ozzy, but he fucking NAILED Ozzy’s character so who cares.
@@patrickshannon3450 Tommy left the band in 1998 and former Ozzy drummer Randy Castillo took his place. Randy got severely sick in 2000 in what turned out to be cancer so they replaced him with a female drummer while he got better. Unfortunately he died in 2002.
@@Bruceybaby2009 She was with them for the New Tattoo tour only and the book was just about to be released at that time she was playing with them, it would have already been written. She was never really part of the band, just a fill in
I read the book to my son when it first came out. Motley Crue was the first band I ever took my daughter to see play live. I was never a huge fan, but they were of my era, and I loved their story. They've been through it all. God bless you guys!!!
Whoever made this video really doesn't pay attention to detail does he? Said that slash or GnR wasn't mentioned in nikkis OD scene, but if you actually watch it he's laying on the couch high as a kite
Vince was actually driving an orange Pantera when the accident happened. Not a red Corvette as the movie portrays. But on a side note Rick Allen the drummer for Def Leppard lost his arm in a red Corvette in a New Year’s Eve accident
People people people and bro you’re absolutely right lol. The band themselves helped coproduce the film. If people are that picky with it, just go back and read the book. Recreate the scenes with your own mind.
As someone who is under 30 and loves rock, I would love a biopic documentary on all these great rock bands, velvet revolver, Guns N’ Roses, Aerosmith. Would watch it all after seeing this, makes me appreciate American culture that our parents had
What bothers me about the whole “they didn’t mention this & that person” is they have to get permission from these people to even drop a name.... they could’ve rejected consent & that’s why it wasn’t mentioned..... it’s the same as why they didn’t add Pamela Anderson in with Tommy Lee’s relationships Take into consideration that these people could’ve just not wanted anything to do with the movie
Absolutely not. Public figures are fair game, especially if they're sticking to documented facts. The only case where this isn't true, is if they wrote something false or contentious. Then someone could try to sue them for slander. But that's also not a simple matter... They need to demonstrate not only that it was not true, but caused harm to their reputation.
Mick Mars wife never usually speaks out publicly but has this to say “We are all so grateful to know Mick he is a real good friend we try and be as supportive as possible with his illness it brings us to tears to see the pain he goes through myself the children and even our grandchildren. He likes to be on his own when the pain is bad and we respect this he knows we are only a phone call away”
monicajean37 he played him very well. All I’m saying is I wouldn’t say he “stole the film” if you watch the movie he’s definitely the crue member that’s the least focused on
@@luciferskitty5239 sad but true. He wouldn't have got life but vehicular manslaughter usually is 3 or 4 years in prison. He agreed to pay restitution to all the victims so he wouldn't go.
@google spynetwork how the fuck can you compare a glam crossdressing bunch of wannabees to Ratt, Sorry but that shows your depth perception about Rock.
google spynetwork I never said anything about “glammy” in any comment. But now that YOU mentioned it, the Crue certainly liked to dress like females back in the 80s. That must make you soft. (It’s okay you’re a closet softy.)
Much better than I thought it would be. I liked the parts with them speaking into the camera. This helped the story along and connected some dots along the way. It didn't take itself too seriously which is where this movie could have gone wrong. Great acting, great pace and a thorough telling of their story especially for compressing an entire career into 1h 45m.
Mick Mars is always referenced as a dark, surly, angry and strong willed character, in the film and in real life persona. But in truth Mick was shy, reserved and avoided confrontation. The rest of the band constantly bullied him, as Nikki alluded to many times in the Heroin Diaries book, and Vince did in 'Tattoos and Tequila'. Mick was a man driven to despair by his younger bandmates. Often hiding out for months on end, trying his best to avoid contact with them. I also picked up on the Slash involvement in the first overdose. But nothing was mentioned about SIxx's second overdose, and the management's decision to cancel the European Tour (a tour I had tickets to, by the way) because they were afraid that one of them (ahem... Nikki) would never come back alive. Nothing was mentioned about Matthew Tripp (what a twat) that made headline news all over the world, Nikki's relationship with Robin Crosby, Vanity, Tommy and Pamela Anderson, Vince's war with Izzy Stradlin.... So much was missed.... But I guess I may be wishing for a four hour film.
@@daveglander1 Pamela may have opted out for legal/emotional reasons. Same with the family of Robin Crosby who died of heroin. Yes, Mick didn't get a fair portrayal and hearing what he really went through pisses me off. Without his skills, they never would have amounted to anything.
Mick went through that all and it actually made him that strong willed persona. This and other tough things he had to face in his life. But even though he's dark and mysterious, he's very humble, kind and nice.
Kids, you think it's hard to learn to play guitar? Imagine what Mick went through, to relearn what he had already known his whole life. You want something bad enough, you'll work through the pain. Life is short. Don't let it pass you by.
Sooooo basically they rushed the movie so it wasn’t 6 hours long??? They didn’t really lie about things they just summed it up to keep it a reasonable length 😅
@@CWBush73 Ozzy was heavyset and had weirder hair in the mid-80s. And had the blonde highlights. He shaved his head around that time, too. I forget if that's _before,_ or if that's the length from growing it back.
2:52 making it seem like it's out of the ordinary for vocalists to read from lyric sheets while recording. Almost every vocalist does this in the studio at one time or another, whether they wrote the lyrics or not. Lots of the time songs are being "constructed" while in the studio--changes are made, lyrics are rearranged, and even if not the vocalist hasn't exactly sang it a ton until they start demos, and then after they hear the demo further changes are usually made...recording is an ongoing process and lyrics sheets are necessary. Accidentally replace one word with a similar word and the song can take on entirely new meaning, so it's important to get it perfect.
I thought it was clear the blonde guy sitting just inside the door before the camera pans left to the person presumed to be playing Slash, was Steven Adler.
I have ankylosis spondylitis. As a hard rocker growing up in the 70’s & 80’s, I loved Crue, but I came to respect them when they toured with Mick Mars. This disease is extremely painful especially when combined with 2 other forms of arthritis as I have. They toured the word with Mick which was difficult, but they took care of A disabled rocker, and that’s awesome!!! I respect that as you should as well!!! Mad respect, and a great concert with Alice Cooper!!!!
"Lies"...? The movie was not even 2 hrs. long... They left details out. And you even get details wrong in this video! This video should be titled "Lies Grunge told you about the Mötley Crüe movie" ;)
@very droll and just like everyone else you have an opinion. If you don't like good music then why are you even commenting? Whores, so what? Every band from that era were whores. Get over it.
Most people who have seen The Dirt have read the book first!! You guys didn't even mention the Skylar timeline being wrong! They show Sharise as pregnant with her the same year as Razzle's death (Dec 84). But she was born in 1991, and passed away in 1995.
My brother in law shared a cell with Vince in Contra Costa county after his 1987 accident. Another friend of mine knows Vince personally. It's funny to me how much "journalists" think they know. This band struggled to be the BEST from day one. Ronnie Montrose was a good friend of mine and he knew Nick AND Tommy very well. He had the real "dirt" on MC, and the movie/editorials don't even begin to describe what this band went through to "make it" in the industry. They are the real deal...
Well, I was actually there. I was 15 & playing on the strip when they released their 1st album. They did the record themselves and it became so popular, Elektra bought the rights and signed them. I was backstage at the 1st big gig at the Santa Monica Civic. It was New Year’s Eve and Nikki was managing my band. It’s true they were nervous, but it was a great show and the band skyrocketed from there. Motley was there right at the start of the Hollywood metal scene. Man, the stories I could tell, and a few that I can’t... Peace. JR
Yeah Tommy said he learned to play in marching band but that he plays rock and when he's helping Mick Mars with his stuff he tells him about the band he was in before because Mick says it's a shitty band because of the name
OK, am I the only one who heard Tommy tell mick that he was in Suit 19 when he first met him???? Cuz all these videos say there's no reference to that.
I just watched it and thought they would depict Nikki's out of body experience in the ambulance, but they didn't. Also the girl who plays Vine's daughter is an amazing actress!
@@KhayJayArt It was true... not having every single thing that ever happened doesn't make what it did depict untrue... In fact this dipshit video's claim that the movie claims Sixx didn't know about Lee's other band is utterly moronic and ignorant as in the damn movie Sixx calls the name of the band gay.
Oh, and "failure to mention" names is due to legal issues. Need permission they more than likely couldn't get. Left all of Pamela Anderson out, presumably for that same reason. Can you spell 'law suit'?
Comon just enjoy the movie and not nitpick. I've been a fan almost since the beginning and got to see gnr play with them and I'm not even pull this shit.
actually the depiction of tommy lee is true, he says he got his skills from marching band, then later when Mick is there to audition he talks about Sweet 19.
Rebel Rocker he is badass indeed! Many people don’t know that he has ankylosing spondylitis and how debilitating it is, they just thought he was a “run of the mill junkie”. I was happy that it was mentioned but wish they’d elaborated on it. The fact that he picked the guitar back up shows how dedicated he is. I have AS as well as a handful of other illnesses and knowing that there is someone else that knows your pain is comforting but it’s sad that he ended up abusing the meds bc he wasn’t taken seriously by doctors. Every time I see him play I notice he has fused more and more and I wonder how much longer he can keep it up. He is so talented!
@@caseythompson474 So glad you have your shit togeather, I was trying to explain to morons that Mick had already been thru all the shit the band was going thru, I wish in the movie they would of put how mick would put powder in front of his door so hed no if they were pulling shit on him Lol, I have alot of video and interviews with vince and soon as I get the ok ill put them up, Im trying to figure out this new compter im in front of it id love to go live right now dont know how to lol, If your interested and old enough im looking for a partner on these interviews. Just saying, Have a Great Night ♡♡
The stuff with Vince’s daughter was so heartbreaking! As a pretty neutral opinion goes.... I have to say that this movie was ten times cooler than the Queen movie on many levels! Way more fun, for sure
...and the part with Vince’s daughter was crushing. I never knew that and as a father of a girl, that point in a father/daughter life is magic. So sad. Sorry for sounding all snowflakey but that was harsh. So sorry he (or any one) had to go through that.
The movie was Great!!! As for the things "left out" or "changed" This happens with the filimg of EVERY movie! It is about getting the story told in the amount of time you can cram a 30+ year career into a hour and a half or two hour story!! I though they hit a home run with how they pulled it off, and the casting was great!! Crue 4Ever!!!
It wasn't accurately depicting the 80s rock scene. It felt more like a scene band from 2008 rather than a hard rock band from 1982. Extras in the film didn't have the 80s look at all . And a lot of characters spoke with annoying Millennial accents. Also Doc McGhee was shown as a responsible father figure to the band; this wasn't true at all, that guy was a convicted drug trafficker who was supplying Crüe and the rock scene with drugs and making huge money out of it.
venmxshadows Bruh Bohemian Rhapsody was a well made movie but got more wrong than right. It was basically a shit ton of lies with some live performances sprinkled in between.
To me the most significant lie was how thier name came about. Tommy and Vince both go into detail talking about this in one of thier early home videos. One of the first studio owners they encountered mentioned upon walking into the studio the first time and seeing them as a band, they both recalled he said "Well ain't this a Motley lookn crue" And they all were instantly sold on the name ...
In the book of The Dirt, Mick says he had been thinking of Mottley Croo (note the spelling) for a band name for years before hooking up with the guys. He just felt he hadn't yet been in a band that was worthy of such a cool name.
Johnny Dangerously There are far more triggered Ratt fans in this comment section than triggered Crue fans. But Ratt fans are always like that when that band is mentioned. 😆
i’ve never really heard of this band, but i’ve heard of nikki sixx before, and i seen that colson was playing tommy lee so i just decided to watch it, it was alright, not the best movie ever but i have a short attention span when it comes to movies that aren’t interesting, this one was interesting enough probably because i’ve never heard of them.
The biggest lie they told me was that the actor who played Vince Neil was a good call. I suppose he's a decent actor but he could not have looked any LESS like Vince!
I hung around a girl who said she wanted to visit her friend "Vince" at the Shark Club in Las Vegas 1995. I saw Vince sitting down in a stool at the bar with some hot blonde on top of him-they looked like they needed a hotel, lol.He came up to me and saw my hair down to my waist and he said"Hey dude, what instrument you play?" I don't think he will ever remember me because he definitely was trashed. He definitely was half my size, short fellow but I was amazed how nice of a guy he really was.
It's not surprising that Netflix left out all the names and identities including Vince Neil. It's a hell of a lot cheaper, and Nikki Sixx was probably the only one getting paid from it.
You can pick apart any movie about bands. Bohemian rhapsody was far from correct. But like Brian May says, it's less about being absolutely 100% correct (which is impossible to do in a 2 hr movie) but more of capturing the feel for the moment and displaying that to the audience. Making them feel like they are a part of the story. He really liked bohemian rhapsody.
What did you think about the new Motley Crue movie, The Dirt?
I loved it I thought it was very well made
Thought it was great
Just watched it. Was entertaining movie... I enjoyed it. Brought back memories of my youth ..
It was ok, not a blockbuster or anything, definitely better than all these cash grab videos you guys are making.
Haha bioepic Jesus, its a lie
In the movie Tommy did mention he was in a band called Suite 19 when Mick first shows up for the audition
I kept waiting for the video to mention that and they never did.
Yep. I just watched the movie so that confused me. The movie did tell us.
Shitty name lol
MyGuyZach true
And Vince did not show up to the 1st audition in the movie the 2nd one he shows up w the bitch on his ar.
For anyone who knows what Mick Mars went through physically, then nothing but absolute respect should be given to him. Ankylosing Spondylitis is so incredibly painful & debilitating that I am not even sure how he did what he did for as many years as he did it. I couldn't imagine there would be enough alcohol and meds on the planet to get through it. Mad props to Mick Mars.
and the fact he is still doing it, is even crazier!
@@lenaneptune he finally backed out and gave the torch to John 5. Which I can’t imagine how that’s gonna turn out.
I have spondylitis, it's utter hell. Pain is distracting at best, and debilitating at times. Pain meds are addictive and can mask signals to your body that you need to CHILL..
@@GypsyDanger514 I like John 5 & honestly believe he is a super talented guitarist but stylistically, they're not the same. I was kinda shocked Nikki didn't try to get DJ Ashba to replace the irreplaceable MM.
I agree Mick was in much pain. I saw Mick at the Omni Party, and he was still youngish, but he was not having much fun. He sat on a sofa, drank vodka as I recall, a LOT! He was stoic, quiet, people would come sit near him, try to talk, but Mick was not into it. I asked Mick, “WHAT ARE YOU DOING, DUDE?” that night. Two words…”PEOPLE WATCHING.” Mick was an island unto himself in a room a sex, drugs, booze, and he WAS rock and roll. I have not seen much of Mick, or Vince, only Tommy-Gun and Sixx. That was prepandemic. Have been in ATL and CHI-Town since then. Mick, if you get wind of GS LEE (the Novelist from ATL) you called me the “pen pusher” always, lol, take care, Bro. GS Lee, or G.
I Personally loved the film version, yes a lot was altered, yes a lot was left out but portraying 30years in hour and half I think they did just fine. The actors playing the band were brilliant and pretty much had them down to a T. All of the above differences however are mentioned in the book of the same name. The book is very detailed, it made me laugh, cry, cringe and feel utterly disgusted at times. I think the movie dumbed much of their journey down yet still managed to highlight just what an awesome band they are. The Crue are currently smashing their way back into peoples lives from the back of this movie and opening up opportunities for a younger generation to appreciate just how fine they are.
Claire Louise well said.
They really needed to make this like a 3 part mini series. There’s a lot to cram into an hour and a half like you said. Lots were left out of kinda glossed over, but I agree not so much as blatant lies
Should have been a series
im that younger generation that watched that movie and was starstruck at how badass motley crue is and how amazing their music is
My dude... Couldnt have said it better
They did mention that tommy was in a band called sweet 19, because in the movie mick makes fun of the name
Randy McNeely oh shit, thank you hadn’t noticed😂
Randy McNeely shitty name
Shitty name shitty band
Shitty name, shitty band
Suite 19, NOT Sweet 19.
I remember seeing Motley Crue about 7 years ago. The second is mick hit the last note of the last song on his guitar he tossed his guitar off and laid flat on an amp with his hands on his face. Curtain fell the rest of the band said it’s thank yous. Mick was in so much pain but he finished the show. Nothing but respect for him for then on
Click-baity title. I love the book way more than the movie, but claiming they were "lies" instead of cleanups for a movie version is a bit of a stretch.
Yeah pretty much all these are just "we had a deadline and could only write, film, direct, and edit so much"
When there's any biography about a band or artist it can and always will stretch the truth at times nobody will ever know the complete truth accept the band themselves
This movie advertised itself as accurate. "Clean-ups" as a euphemism for making the woman attack first before she gets punched, and then ignoring several other cases of assault is also misleading.
Harry Willmore Actually the book describes her as calling his mom a cunt and stabbing Tommy with a pen too. It’s just he was less repentant after punching her IRL.
The movie is only semi accurate like all biographies it's the cleaned up version of what really happened I have a friend that knows Tommy and Vince personally he went to school with them.
Another slight inaccuracy in the dirt was Skylar herself. She appears in the scene when Vince watches the TV broadcasting Sixx's "death". Sixx overdosed in 1987, but Skylar wasn't born until 1991.
Thats not slight. Thats huge
Yeah well, you have to take artistic liberties in movies based on books, biopics etc otherwise it doesnt work.
In fairness, it could have been Neil's other daughter, Elizabeth Ashley Wharton, who was born in 1983.
There's actually a few discrepancies in the timelines. Overall I enjoyed the movie. Loved the casting for Mick, he's a talented actor.
Exactly and I think machine gun Kelly did an excellent job playing Tommy Lee, 👏🏻 I don't think anyone else could have played that crazy dude as well as MGK...🤙🏻🤘🏻🥁
Talk about loyalty, friendship, and dedication to your fellow band members. Nikki Sixx allowed Mick Mars to go through a hip replacement and therapy to learn tp play again to keep him in Motley Crue instead of seeking another guitarist! That's awesome!!
Man, that comment aged like milk
I played John Corabi. Just wanted to let you all know this.
I thought he looked familiar lol
I noticed this and you really looked like him, well done. 👍🏻
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How has this not had more interaction?! YT never ceases to amaze me LMAO.
Hello gorgeous
Rather than lies it just sounds like ways to tell the story and still keep it at a reasonable length.
Agreed, I would also not use the word "lies"
True, good stories usually leave out distracting subplots.
The book was super good snd I think the movie did it justice
Exactly
The one thing I loved is that they let Mick Mars be impossibly and effortlessly cool.
Which? He absolutely is, in real life.
The Mick Mars character was about the only thing good
Even on stage... his eerie presence on stage is so powerful
He was easily my favorite throughout the entire movie lol
This role made me forget the actor played Ramsey in Game of Thrones.
Right? He's so fucking cool.
Even IRL, watching him shred, hes just so cool and doesn't even try.
Saw Motley Crue live in Sydney, May 1990 with their Dr Feelgood tour. Highlights include...the entire set, especially Tommy Lee's drum solo strapped in, upside down above the crowd. Awesome show.
I’m only watching this video because I’m tired of the thumbnail just staring at me for the past two weeks...
Me too !! I honestly wanna read the book first
Same
@@kellyanderson6943I don't xx
Fio😂❤
@@kellyanderson6943 🎉😅😅😊😮😊😊😊
Same
Did you not see the part when tommy says I used to be in suite 19
Here
Shitty name - shitty band
Did you even watch us play
Jaime Mendoza - was thinking the same, mick Mars even replies with 'shitty name'.
@Stealth Bonger If you watched the film then you'd know that Brandon was repeating what Mick Mars said.
Yeah but you’ve got to remember they’re putting Mötley Crües career into one 1h45 minute movie and of course there is gonna be parts they miss
“According to loudwire..” you mean, “according to Motley Crue themselves” because they’ve literally talked about all of this several times
nikki sixx said it himself that someone spit on vince and they fought the guys
Zach Hall Did he mention it was their first show?
Not Rick C-137 yeah. The only difference is that a guy spat on him instead of a girl which was in the movie
YupThis is biased bullshit MSM.
It was probably Lars Ulrich. Lars said they used to stand in front of the Rainbow or the Whiskey, wherever the Crüe played and picked on them makes me think it was him. Lars said they could never catch him or James because they couldn't run in high heels.
He said......so must be true?!? 😂😂
For those that remember Ratt? You've got to be kidding. They may have been a rung below Motley, but they are one of the best known bands of the scene.
On top of the fact that literally ANYONE who knows about Motley Crue DEFINITELY knows about Ratt..that was a dumb toss-away statement this dude makes in this video. One of many....
kitoyobeni1 RATT 🙌🏻
No one knows that band get over it
@@Thehubb1 I do
HubbzZ obviously you are not a metal head.
It’s so weird seeing things with Vince Neil because when I was younger my dad worked at Vince Neil ink (Vince’s tattoo shop on the strip) and I really didn’t know about his band and only really saw him as my dads boss lol
Wtf
I can honestly say Mick Mars is a really great guy. When they were on the shout at the 🤘devil tour I went backstage and met them all. Mick sat and drank a beer with me and talked to me for quite a while. It was a fun and entertaining conversation and Mick was very much a gentleman in comparison to his band mates 😀😊. Nikki was really sweet and Tommy and Vince were on the trail looking to hook up with some other chick's. Lol 😆🤣. I had a good time just chilling with Mick ❤
Defo did the naughty naughty with them. Nah On a real tho that’s so cool
OMG no freaking way I am so jealous I cannot believe what that would even be like, definitely a moment you just had to have been there for
They're like 60 and gross lol you're a pig
@@r2d2musk6 what are you like 12? This was way back over 30yrs ago. Probably before you existed. Grow up. And if you are your sad af. What a childish comment 🙄
@@Vamparellame Well that's much better. Being a groupie now
would be gross.
Adler and Slash are visible in the overdose scene...
Benjamin Crump yeah he’s on the couch
G n r need a movie
Harls Lee absolutely
You can crearly see the top hat beside the couch
Yeah and Adler is sitting on the floor, leaning against a support beam. I recognized that person as Adler and then it pans to Slash
It's a bio-pic, NOT a documentary.
Thank you for stating the obvious like 15,000 other people are about to do. Do you want a pat on the head?
Maria Quiet p. I’d like a pat on the back.
Maria Quiet 🤫 Those 15000 certainly don’t want to hear your complaining ass, so hush up! 🤫
Thank you.
@@mariaquiet6211 Um? Aren't you doing the same with this comment? You ---> Kettle
I feel like the movie hit all of the key moments correctly while joing 15+ years of action into one movie as best as it could. ive watched it three times already
*** That sorry excuse for a singer [Penguin from Batman is Rob Halford by comparison] killed one person, left two others with permanent brain damage, but BARELY $PENT THIRTY DAY$ IN PRI$ON. Like enough, any identical DUI brought to Ju$tice will draw the same "penalty"...
B. Lugosi do you want me to go back 30 years and change the punishment or...?
Course not. Keep in your Disneylike delusion, blowing an untalented and irresponsible twat.
B. Lugosi You’re reaching with the untalented part. The bands fand base and record sales say other wise
MGK looks so good with dark hair. I wish he’d keep it like that.
YES
It was a wig 🙄
@@high_on_nightmares obviously 😂
he had black hair for a while when he was in slc punk 2, punks not dead
Nikki Sixx even said that a guy spit on Vince and it caused a brawl
I studied music in the early 80s, played full-time rock and roll though the 80s. It was an interesting time to be on the road throughout the country. We were playing in Pasedena, Texas in 1984, and this couple came up to me and my guitarist (we are still friends today) and they asked us why we weren't spitting on them (we thought that that was so strange). We still talk about that story to this day. We saw a million things and could tell you 2 million stories.
Velton Meade whatever
@@veltonmeade1057 For sure man
I liked when Nikki swung his bass like a battle axe
They need to do a movie about Guns N Roses. They are one of the most iconic bands in Rock history. Their up bringing of the band would make for such a great documentary.
They probably don't want to deal with Axl's bullshit.
Yeah totally, it will be very interesting due to axl's behaviour etc
If they were to make a movie about gnr it should be called The Jungle
Yeah 10 minutes of GNR and 1,20 minutes of Axl's bullshit
Yeah. But it would have to be a series. There’s no way you could tell the Guns N’ Roses story in one movie.
I wouldn’t call these LIES, I would call these EXAGGERATIONS, to make the movie more dramatic otherwise it would be a lot less more boring or “real life.”
i spotted characters in the sixx overdose scene that dont have any lines but do look alot like, slash and steven adler. its more like an easter egg, theres probably loads more if you look for them.
I picked out the two from Guns & what looked like Robyn Crosby as well.
I literally kept fighting my vision because Machine Gun Kelly looked so much like Andy Biersack
J Mac i agree and the freakin Nikki sixx in the movie looks like ronnie radke
THANK YOU
Not even😂
@@jallanballori7844 FUCK NOW I CAN'T UN SEE IT
J Mac omg he kinda does 😍
Wrong points in the video
1) The story about the 1st gig is true (nikki sixx interview)
2) Slash and Steven Adler are in the overdose scene!
3)The band name “Suite 19” is mentioned in the movie by Tommy Lee himself
I almost missed Adler sitting on floor by the door. If it wasn't for his hair, I would have. Lol
Someone saying it doesn't make it true.
@@SYNAPTIKMETAL The book was written by Nikki and the movie gets a lot of content from the book. (EDIT: Almost all) You're right, but it was the 80s. Couldn't record everything, and people have witnessed the crazy shit they've done, including that shit at their first gig.
The best part is you either believe this shit happened or not, and nobody fucking cares either way.
How would you function in a time without a reliance on pictures? You'd probably go mad from the skepticism of everything you hear or you'd realize you aren't so skeptical, and many things are easily believable without being seen. Can't take a man at his word so what is yours worth? It's up to you, though.
@@bkhai1041 Ha Ha. No worries. I know not everyone blindly believes their hyped up antics. They aren't so gullible. But I guess the truth wouldn't sell books would it. #Chinesewhispers
Slash drug Nikki into the shower and turned cold water on him.
Also, slash’s girl gave him CPR till the meds got there.
Lies, exaggerations, half truths, whatever. This is a kickass film adaptation that only strengthened my love for Mötley Crüe
Most of the stories were all BS and the oneson film were so scripted its a joke. Like vinces limo ride with the 2 bitches on hollywood blvd. Yeah THAT JUST HAPPENED. LMFAO.
Don't drink and drive. Hanoi rocks stated that all the rest of Mötley Crüe apologized, but Vince was unrepentant despite paralysing two and the death of Razzle, and Andy McCoy has hated Vince ever since.
"lies" but thats how motely crue wanted the move as they were literally part of the production crew
movie*
Not necessarily... just cause their names are on the credits doesn’t mean anything. It could’ve just meant they were brought on and interviewed for fact checking.
Opilx there are no lies in the movie Nikki would never allowed that
Mariah Glidden - I would agree but they are all credited as “co-producers”. I’m pretty sure they were heavily involved.
You are wrong...in the movie Tommy Lee mentions to Mars that he was in the band sweet 19
Suite 19*
@jb318 Suite 19*
jb318 suite 19
OMG who cares how it's spelt! The point was right!
@jb318 don't worry, you're still special as the random guy that spelled it correctly first. *pats head. feel better cupcake?
I never partied with motley crue....
They partied with me, man!
You should get a, or the band together, David Lee Roth. :0
David Lee Roth
Lol... 😂😂😂🤔
I really hope this the real Diamond Dave.
Lol
Hell yeah
I met O'Dean in 2008. He's still wearing those gloves...
The Herion Hoax - Fakery on the People !! Bwaa haa haaa
😂😂
Entropy haha🤣
@@rebellefleur435 rebelle are you the hot chick in the picture?????
@@pascarirobert8224 SLOB
I always feel so bad for Razzle, poor dude was kill by dumb decisions .
Don't drink and drive. Hanoi rocks stated that all the rest of Mötley Crüe apologized, but Vince was unrepentant despite paralysing two and the death of Razzle, and Andy McCoy has hated Vince ever since.
@@lookingforsomething hence the "dumb decisions" razzle and vince were both drinking, Vince and Razzle both made the decision to go on the beer run together, Vince didnt kidnap the guy, they both said fuck it and drove to get more alcohol.
“According to Loudwire...”
Juan C. Hernandez LIVE WIRE
Exactly
"According to pretty much anything except the book the movie is based on". This video is the biggest pile of bullshit I've seen for a while.
Hahaha... "aCcOrDiNg To L.A. WeEkLy", "aS PeOpLe MaGaZiNe ReCoRdEd"
fking hipster channel
@@metalzonemt-2 I've' read the Book' it would make a Good ''Snuff Movie'' or ten.
Tommy mentions in the movie he was in Suite 19.
YEP, WHEN he and mick are carrying up micks amp
Yep!
Ali Elnowehy Correct.
"Shitty band"
" hey man you haven't even seen us play"
"don't need to band with a shitty name 10 times out of 10 shitty band"
I just wanna note that the guy who played Mick looked more like Ozzy than the guy who played Ozzy and it bothers me 😂
Lmao I said the same thing stg
😂😂
Haha that's what I said lol
The guy? His name is Lord Ramsey Bolton and he is Warden of the North, show some respect.
That’s funny, I thought he looked more like Ramsey Bolton from Game Of Thrones. The guy who played Ozzy may not have looked much like Ozzy, but he fucking NAILED Ozzy’s character so who cares.
Another fun fact, Vince Neil did not hear the temporary death of Nikki Sixx on TV. He heard it on the radio.
The movie also never touched on Tommy Lee leaving the band and a female drumming stepping in.
Oh wow I didn't know they had a female drummer for a minute. Really who was it?
@@patrickshannon3450
Samantha Maloney. She awas around for like 4 years after their first replacement drummer got sick and died.
@@patrickshannon3450 Tommy left the band in 1998 and former Ozzy drummer Randy Castillo took his place. Randy got severely sick in 2000 in what turned out to be cancer so they replaced him with a female drummer while he got better. Unfortunately he died in 2002.
Probably cause that part didn’t even get mentioned in the book (the female drummer stint I mean)
@@Bruceybaby2009 She was with them for the New Tattoo tour only and the book was just about to be released at that time she was playing with them, it would have already been written. She was never really part of the band, just a fill in
I read the book to my son when it first came out. Motley Crue was the first band I ever took my daughter to see play live. I was never a huge fan, but they were of my era, and I loved their story. They've been through it all. God bless you guys!!!
CAN YOUR SON STILL READ!😂😂😂😂👀👀👀😴BOB .YOU BETTER CHECK ON YOUR SON,YOU MIGHT HAVE TURNED HIM AWAY FROM READING.😂😂😂😂😂🙈BOB
Sweet Nineteen was mentioned in the movie. When he was carrying Micks amp up the steps, Tommy stated the name of the band he was in.
Tommy
Shitty name, shitty band.
Whoever made this video really doesn't pay attention to detail does he? Said that slash or GnR wasn't mentioned in nikkis OD scene, but if you actually watch it he's laying on the couch high as a kite
@John Galt no he says that there "is no mention of GnR or slash in the overdose scene."
It wasn't just mentioned, they repeatedly made fun of a band with a dumb name can not be a good band.
Vince was actually driving an orange Pantera when the accident happened. Not a red Corvette as the movie portrays.
But on a side note Rick Allen the drummer for Def Leppard lost his arm in a red Corvette in a New Year’s Eve accident
Ya know in the end credits, all four band members are credited as co-producers of the movie. Sooo......
MrToa510 ikr!!!
OMG RIGHT!?
People people people and bro you’re absolutely right lol. The band themselves helped coproduce the film. If people are that picky with it, just go back and read the book. Recreate the scenes with your own mind.
Someone said it. Thank you!
I remember Ratt more than I remember Vince Neil's solo career.
🤣
Ratt was pure rock🤘🏼
I forgot he had a solo career until they mentioned it.
Thank you
I still Rock out to Ratt!
didn`t know Ramsey Bolton plays the guitar!
he makes music bro...
As someone who is under 30 and loves rock, I would love a biopic documentary on all these great rock bands, velvet revolver, Guns N’ Roses, Aerosmith. Would watch it all after seeing this, makes me appreciate American culture that our parents had
What bothers me about the whole “they didn’t mention this & that person” is they have to get permission from these people to even drop a name.... they could’ve rejected consent & that’s why it wasn’t mentioned..... it’s the same as why they didn’t add Pamela Anderson in with Tommy Lee’s relationships
Take into consideration that these people could’ve just not wanted anything to do with the movie
You don't need permission.
Absolutely not. Public figures are fair game, especially if they're sticking to documented facts. The only case where this isn't true, is if they wrote something false or contentious. Then someone could try to sue them for slander. But that's also not a simple matter... They need to demonstrate not only that it was not true, but caused harm to their reputation.
when he snorted the ants, i went
*WILDDDD*
ozzy him self didnt remember that...he said if MC says its true it prob is then XD
Aye
He actually did it tho
Are ya ready for that mate quote Ozzy
Mick Mars wife never usually speaks out publicly but has this to say “We are all so grateful to know Mick he is a real good friend we try and be as supportive as possible with his illness it brings us to tears to see the pain he goes through myself the children and even our grandchildren. He likes to be on his own when the pain is bad and we respect this he knows we are only a phone call away”
Steven Adler is in the scene of the overdose.
A couple of seconds before Slash on the couch, Steven is on the floor at the beginning of the scene.
Muıvnpduaş
So is Slash
Did anyone else think that Iwan Rheon stole the entire movie?
daveglander1 nope
Sixx n lee stole it if anyone did
No. He played the member with the least lines and screen time
@@fumanchu1613 he played Mick well then didn't he?
monicajean37 he played him very well. All I’m saying is I wouldn’t say he “stole the film” if you watch the movie he’s definitely the crue member that’s the least focused on
The actor that plays Vince Neil looks a lot like Randy Rhoads.
That's what I said. If he lost 30 pounds he could be Randy Rhoads
doesn't look much like Vince Neil at that age, imo.
lol yes! he look more like Randy than he does Vince
he looks like shawn michaels
or Jeff Spicoli
How does someone murder someone while drinking and driving and only does 19 days in jail. Any regular person would have gotten life.
2.5 million dollars.
All you need is money
@@luciferskitty5239 sad but true. He wouldn't have got life but vehicular manslaughter usually is 3 or 4 years in prison. He agreed to pay restitution to all the victims so he wouldn't go.
it's not murder because it wasn't intentional. it was manslaughter and no he wouldn't get life for that.
@@latrellsprewell653 2 million dollars. LMFAO. How much did the judge get.
Every metal fan remembers Ratt. 🤟🏻
@google spynetwork how the fuck can you compare a glam crossdressing bunch of wannabees to Ratt, Sorry but that shows your depth perception about Rock.
Todd P ,damn right,
google spynetwork I grew up in the 80s too. Do we both get a cookie?
google spynetwork I never said anything about “glammy” in any comment. But now that YOU mentioned it, the Crue certainly liked to dress like females back in the 80s. That must make you soft. (It’s okay you’re a closet softy.)
google spynetwork And you never answered, do we both get a cookie???
Much better than I thought it would be. I liked the parts with them speaking into the camera. This helped the story along and connected some dots along the way. It didn't take itself too seriously which is where this movie could have gone wrong. Great acting, great pace and a thorough telling of their story especially for compressing an entire career into 1h 45m.
yeah the moments where they pause and talk to the camera were super good, like i was a spectator following along their journey 💀💀
Mick Mars is always referenced as a dark, surly, angry and strong willed character, in the film and in real life persona. But in truth Mick was shy, reserved and avoided confrontation. The rest of the band constantly bullied him, as Nikki alluded to many times in the Heroin Diaries book, and Vince did in 'Tattoos and Tequila'. Mick was a man driven to despair by his younger bandmates. Often hiding out for months on end, trying his best to avoid contact with them.
I also picked up on the Slash involvement in the first overdose. But nothing was mentioned about SIxx's second overdose, and the management's decision to cancel the European Tour (a tour I had tickets to, by the way) because they were afraid that one of them (ahem... Nikki) would never come back alive.
Nothing was mentioned about Matthew Tripp (what a twat) that made headline news all over the world, Nikki's relationship with Robin Crosby, Vanity, Tommy and Pamela Anderson, Vince's war with Izzy Stradlin.... So much was missed.... But I guess I may be wishing for a four hour film.
You cant put everything in a movie. It's already too tight.
@@Davidman3976 I know dude, that's why I said I was wishing for a 4 hour movie.
@@daveglander1 Pamela may have opted out for legal/emotional reasons. Same with the family of Robin Crosby who died of heroin. Yes, Mick didn't get a fair portrayal and hearing what he really went through pisses me off. Without his skills, they never would have amounted to anything.
Mick went through that all and it actually made him that strong willed persona. This and other tough things he had to face in his life. But even though he's dark and mysterious, he's very humble, kind and nice.
Motley crue the Netflix series. Coming out in june
Kids, you think it's hard to learn to play guitar? Imagine what Mick went through, to relearn what he had already known his whole life. You want something bad enough, you'll work through the pain. Life is short. Don't let it pass you by.
Sooooo basically they rushed the movie so it wasn’t 6 hours long??? They didn’t really lie about things they just summed it up to keep it a reasonable length 😅
MK3 Tcorry my thoughts exactly, this needs more likes to save people some time lol
the guy who played mick mars should play ozzy osbourne if theres a movie about him.
Cintakukepadanyai takseperisabunmandi nooooo
Cintakukepadanyai takseperisabunmandi I thought the guy who played Ozzy was not accurate. He was fatter and had a perm.
@@CWBush73 Ozzy was heavyset and had weirder hair in the mid-80s. And had the blonde highlights. He shaved his head around that time, too. I forget if that's _before,_ or if that's the length from growing it back.
@@CWBush73 his face isnt similliar but the presence and voices, is just same.
He should play Glenn Danzig.
slash is lying on the couch in that scene!
Steven Adler is on the floor in the corner.
Ivano Ilardi oh wow reallyy???.... i thought it was billy ray cyrus....
2:52 making it seem like it's out of the ordinary for vocalists to read from lyric sheets while recording. Almost every vocalist does this in the studio at one time or another, whether they wrote the lyrics or not. Lots of the time songs are being "constructed" while in the studio--changes are made, lyrics are rearranged, and even if not the vocalist hasn't exactly sang it a ton until they start demos, and then after they hear the demo further changes are usually made...recording is an ongoing process and lyrics sheets are necessary. Accidentally replace one word with a similar word and the song can take on entirely new meaning, so it's important to get it perfect.
6:06 never mind the infamous BLACK TOP HAT sitting right next to him, because those were soooooo common in the early 80's!
Az Drummer lol right? DEAD giveaway.
GOOD EYE! I did see the dude on the couch when I watched it, but I did not see the hat. Crue does easter eggs?
I thought it was clear the blonde guy sitting just inside the door before the camera pans left to the person presumed to be playing Slash, was Steven Adler.
Slash is on the sofa as the camera closes in on Nikki!
Yea the rest of GNR should of been sitting on sofas too
"For those who remember Ratt." Oh, please.
Round and Round is stuck in my head still. It was almost gone until i saw this video.
Ratt has sold 20 million albums. Four platinum and two gold records. I'm sure somebody remembers them.
I thought the same shit Ratt is a awesome band.
whats ratt?
Ratt will always be a better band than Crue. They have way more style and technique
I have ankylosis spondylitis. As a hard rocker growing up in the 70’s & 80’s, I loved Crue, but I came to respect them when they toured with Mick Mars. This disease is extremely painful especially when combined with 2 other forms of arthritis as I have. They toured the word with Mick which was difficult, but they took care of A disabled rocker, and that’s awesome!!! I respect that as you should as well!!! Mad respect, and a great concert with Alice Cooper!!!!
They pushed him into disability. They did him wrong.
"Lies"...? The movie was not even 2 hrs. long... They left details out. And you even get details wrong in this video! This video should be titled "Lies Grunge told you about the Mötley Crüe movie" ;)
THIS...!!
@very droll Nikki Sixx don't need money. Ever hear of the band Sixx A.M. ?
Its truth in a hollywood style movie....
@very droll and just like everyone else you have an opinion. If you don't like good music then why are you even commenting? Whores, so what? Every band from that era were whores. Get over it.
Gotta say- I literally just finished it & I thought it was absolutely phenomenal!
Most people who have seen The Dirt have read the book first!!
You guys didn't even mention the Skylar timeline being wrong! They show Sharise as pregnant with her the same year as Razzle's death (Dec 84).
But she was born in 1991, and passed away in 1995.
My brother in law shared a cell with Vince in Contra Costa county after his 1987 accident. Another friend of mine knows Vince personally. It's funny to me how much "journalists" think they know. This band struggled to be the BEST from day one. Ronnie Montrose was a good friend of mine and he knew Nick AND Tommy very well. He had the real "dirt" on MC, and the movie/editorials don't even begin to describe what this band went through to "make it" in the industry. They are the real deal...
Well, I was actually there. I was 15 & playing on the strip when they released their 1st album. They did the record themselves and it became so popular, Elektra bought the rights and signed them. I was backstage at the 1st big gig at the Santa Monica Civic. It was New Year’s Eve and Nikki was managing my band. It’s true they were nervous, but it was a great show and the band skyrocketed from there. Motley was there right at the start of the Hollywood metal scene. Man, the stories I could tell, and a few that I can’t...
Peace. JR
Bullshit
I really don’t care what anyone thinks. I was just sharing my experience.
Peace. JR
Jonny Roxx Just kidding dude, I see a lot of true twisters on YT, that's all. I believe you and that's cool.🤘
Wow...this is really just a bunch of nit picking that can be found in any bio pic. It's a movie, not a documentary.
Yeah Tommy said he learned to play in marching band but that he plays rock and when he's helping Mick Mars with his stuff he tells him about the band he was in before because Mick says it's a shitty band because of the name
Agreed, best wishes
OK, am I the only one who heard Tommy tell mick that he was in Suit 19 when he first met him???? Cuz all these videos say there's no reference to that.
I just watched it and thought they would depict Nikki's out of body experience in the ambulance, but they didn't. Also the girl who plays Vine's daughter is an amazing actress!
That's how movies work. You have to condense the story while telling the gist of the story at the same time. They did a good job of that.
This critique is pure nonsense. A biopic to be 100% accurate would be 8 hours long! Of course some things will be left out
The movie was advertised as being a true story. If you're
Gonna claim your biopic is true, people are gonna point out anything that isn't accurate.
Yea this didn't seem like "lies". It seems like the exact same way every movie ever has told a story.
@@KhayJayArt It was true... not having every single thing that ever happened doesn't make what it did depict untrue... In fact this dipshit video's claim that the movie claims Sixx didn't know about Lee's other band is utterly moronic and ignorant as in the damn movie Sixx calls the name of the band gay.
The point isn't that it leaves things out, it's that it intentionally misleads people to shine a better light on the band.
@@hyperludicrous9143 Nobody who knows anything about Motley Crue doesn't know that these guys were fucking nuts!
anyone recognise the dealer who gave Sixx the heroin that he overdosed on? He was in The Walking Dead
Yeah he always plays a part as a pos
of course. He was in many movies and tv shows, he's a "that guy".
@@manucec3659 Don't you mean in Breaking Bad. The character that you are talking about was named Gail Benacker.
Yes! That was my thought too!
The first half of of this movie is a laugh riot, then when Hanoi Rocks appears you know the laughs are over.
John Corabi is still an awesome singer. Whether he was welcomed in Motley by the fans or not he is an amazing vocalist
Oh, and "failure to mention" names is due to legal issues. Need permission they more than likely couldn't get. Left all of Pamela Anderson out, presumably for that same reason. Can you spell 'law suit'?
Also, how many times do you need to see the same guy fall head-over-heels in love in a 90-minute movie?
Comon just enjoy the movie and not nitpick. I've been a fan almost since the beginning and got to see gnr play with them and I'm not even pull this shit.
actually the depiction of tommy lee is true, he says he got his skills from marching band, then later when Mick is there to audition he talks about Sweet 19.
I Love Mick, Hes been around the block a couple times, Hes such a nice guy, Rock On
Rebel Rocker he is badass indeed! Many people don’t know that he has ankylosing spondylitis and how debilitating it is, they just thought he was a “run of the mill junkie”. I was happy that it was mentioned but wish they’d elaborated on it. The fact that he picked the guitar back up shows how dedicated he is. I have AS as well as a handful of other illnesses and knowing that there is someone else that knows your pain is comforting but it’s sad that he ended up abusing the meds bc he wasn’t taken seriously by doctors. Every time I see him play I notice he has fused more and more and I wonder how much longer he can keep it up. He is so talented!
@@caseythompson474 So glad you have your shit togeather, I was trying to explain to morons that Mick had already been thru all the shit the band was going thru, I wish in the movie they would of put how mick would put powder in front of his door so hed no if they were pulling shit on him Lol, I have alot of video and interviews with vince and soon as I get the ok ill put them up, Im trying to figure out this new compter im in front of it id love to go live right now dont know how to lol, If your interested and old enough im looking for a partner on these interviews. Just saying, Have a Great Night ♡♡
The stuff with Vince’s daughter was so heartbreaking! As a pretty neutral opinion goes.... I have to say that this movie was ten times cooler than the Queen movie on many levels! Way more fun, for sure
Smurfinelli 33 I agree! I didn’t really like bohemian rhapsody, it was kinda boring I thought. This was way more entertaining.
Loved Bohemian Rhapsody but this was way more fun
...and the part with Vince’s daughter was crushing. I never knew that and as a father of a girl, that point in a father/daughter life is magic. So sad. Sorry for sounding all snowflakey but that was harsh. So sorry he (or any one) had to go through that.
Not tryna be hostile but this is a pretty weak video.
VERY weak. Pretty lame in fact.
Fuck it, I'll say it..
It was gay.. There
Jesus H. Christ damn gottem
3:02 blink and you miss it but I'm there. :)) proud to be a part of that number.
The movie was Great!!! As for the things "left out" or "changed" This happens with the filimg of EVERY movie! It is about getting the story told in the amount of time you can cram a 30+ year career into a hour and a half or two hour story!! I though they hit a home run with how they pulled it off, and the casting was great!! Crue 4Ever!!!
Compared to the Queen Biopic this is way more accurate and truthful
Frankie Lunn this destroys Bohemian Rhapsody
It wasn't accurately depicting the 80s rock scene. It felt more like a scene band from 2008 rather than a hard rock band from 1982. Extras in the film didn't have the 80s look at all . And a lot of characters spoke with annoying Millennial accents. Also Doc McGhee was shown as a responsible father figure to the band; this wasn't true at all, that guy was a convicted drug trafficker who was supplying Crüe and the rock scene with drugs and making huge money out of it.
You guys are fucking high
I really like this movie but it doesn't even come close to Bohemian Rhapsody 👌
They were both really good. I cried watching both of them. I'm a girl... Lol.
venmxshadows Bruh Bohemian Rhapsody was a well made movie but got more wrong than right. It was basically a shit ton of lies with some live performances sprinkled in between.
I think Motley Crue needs to do a reaction video to this
To me the most significant lie was how thier name came about. Tommy and Vince both go into detail talking about this in one of thier early home videos. One of the first studio owners they encountered mentioned upon walking into the studio the first time and seeing them as a band, they both recalled he said
"Well ain't this a Motley lookn crue"
And they all were instantly sold on the name ...
In the book of The Dirt, Mick says he had been thinking of Mottley Croo (note the spelling) for a band name for years before hooking up with the guys. He just felt he hadn't yet been in a band that was worthy of such a cool name.
Haha, I thought I recognized Mick Mars. Ramsay Bolton!
Yeah he played a more likeable character in GOT
Didn't even realize it!!!
fuck. now i have to watch this trash
Dude's an awesome actor....even if he does play the naughty characters.
He's a great actor...sucks emotion out of you whether you allowed it or not
You guys must be hardcore Crue fans if the movie triggered you this bad
Not a fan but I couldn't even make it 1 minute into the movie. Just trash
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What’s the point of watching a movie about a band you don’t even like
I fucking loved the movie
Johnny Dangerously There are far more triggered Ratt fans in this comment section than triggered Crue fans. But Ratt fans are always like that when that band is mentioned. 😆
i’ve never really heard of this band, but i’ve heard of nikki sixx before, and i seen that colson was playing tommy lee so i just decided to watch it, it was alright, not the best movie ever but i have a short attention span when it comes to movies that aren’t interesting, this one was interesting enough probably because i’ve never heard of them.
The biggest lie they told me was that the actor who played Vince Neil was a good call. I suppose he's a decent actor but he could not have looked any LESS like Vince!
he reminded me of Kurt Cobain more than Vince
He looked like Dana Carvey
@@lindafogarty3924 Ha! Yes!! He did!!
I hung around a girl who said she wanted to visit her friend "Vince" at the Shark Club in Las Vegas 1995. I saw Vince sitting down in a stool at the bar with some hot blonde on top of him-they looked like they needed a hotel, lol.He came up to me and saw my hair down to my waist and he said"Hey dude, what instrument you play?" I don't think he will ever remember me because he definitely was trashed. He definitely was half my size, short fellow but I was amazed how nice of a guy he really was.
It's not surprising that Netflix left out all the names and identities including Vince Neil. It's a hell of a lot cheaper, and Nikki Sixx was probably the only one getting paid from it.
You can pick apart any movie about bands. Bohemian rhapsody was far from correct. But like Brian May says, it's less about being absolutely 100% correct (which is impossible to do in a 2 hr movie) but more of capturing the feel for the moment and displaying that to the audience. Making them feel like they are a part of the story. He really liked bohemian rhapsody.
I liked it a lot, but wished it was longer. I feel like there was so much more they could have covered.
The movie lied about how attractive "Bullwinkle" was