Pattaya Used Car Shopping with my Pro Tips
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ย. 2021
- Today we begin searching for a used car to buy in Pattaya. We visit a few dealerships in The Pattaya area and look at a couple examples of the right type of pickup truck I am looking for. I will also discuss my "pro tips" for determining used car prices and determining value based on condition. Enjoy the Ride!
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The 1.5 cab is my holy grail. Its the best compromise between the single and double cab. I have always been envious of the Thais who have the best choice in 1.5 cabs as far as pickups go. And the Hilux or the D-Max would always be my first choice. No Fords, no Chevys, or anything else. Its about the availability of parts and the general low maint. requirements.
Here is a tip...Take a small magnet to check if full of body filler also check in sunlight...Also check for over spray
Overspray is my preferred method . Good comment
Well, i have seen many put metal fillings inside putty, so they trick dont work all the time!!
@@mixalis6168 A paint thickness gauge is the solution
I will go for Toyota Hilux 2014 & above.
maintains reasonable selling value. ( specially automatic)
reliable.
service & spare parts are everywhere
excellent reputation of brand
Yeah, I agree.
Love the car and bike vids great fun shopping for wheels
Most Excellent! Some good flood tips!
As always, very informative. Thank you, Loucous. I've thought about purchasing a used car in Thailand, so this is solid. I look forward to seeing more as you shop around and decide on what to buy. Cheers.
There would also be a number of very good deals on new trucks manufactured in 2020 that are still unsold. New vehicle sales were down over 20% in 2020. Maybe worth a look.
Manheim is mentioned in the video. I did IT for them but you obviously know what you are talking about. I had many friends in the company and few small time car dealers outside of work... Good advice.
As a motor trader in the UK for 20 year's or so.... Your Profit is made when you Buy it right!!!!!....😎😎🤠🤠
Excellent advice, looking forward to updates on your search and purchase.
I got a great deal on a truck once. It was a Dodge Ram with just 60k miles on it for only $5k. It was totaled in an accident 4 years later and insurance paid $10k. I don't think I'll find a deal like that ever again.
Haha, great story, thanks for sharing 👍🤣
Excellent Video again, Lucas! I have learned a lot about buying cars and I have even more respect for you now!
I really like the videos when you go for looking at cars and motorbikes. I have seen every single one of all your videos, but my favorite content of your videos is when it is bike or cars related. You do that very well with a lot of good and interesting information.
Take care. Greetings from one of your subscribers from Norway.
Cool, thanks!
If you are considering a Ford Ranger, avoid the 3.2ltr 5cyl version. 3ltr Hiluxs are renowned for piston as a result of injector issues. Toyota recommends replacing all 4 injectors every 100,000kms (big money). 2.8 Colorado’s suffered oil burn issues. Isuzu with the 4JJ1 are the best of the bunch
Marvelous! Very informatic too!
Man I love your videos, the series are so good! You cover EVERYTHING that anyone could possibly want to know about moving to Thailand. I hope you are planning on using this new truck to do some road trips up north! I love the north, the south is TOO DAMN HOT!
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This was great advice. You addressed a lot of the issues I was wondering about. Thanks! 🙏
You're so welcome!
The reason Chevi are cheaper. Is that Chevi have stopped selling cars in Thailand a few months ago you could get a new one at knock down prices. Now no one wants them. Now Chevi garages are getting less and less. If your looking for a reliable P/Up that hold their price go for Isuzu or Toyota. Watch out for Ford as their 2.2 engines/gearboxes seem to have oil problems.
Another tip. If your buying from a dealer they will have a car lift, stick it on their lift and you can have a good look at what it's like underneath. Your not looking for oil leaks look for damage/repairs. Rust isn't a problem here as most of the new cars are plastic so don't rust.
My last Toyota Fortuner looked like new when I sold it at nearly 9 years old. I'm not sure about some makes but I do know that Toyota will tell you how many K/M it's done and also service history. Just ask in any Toyota garage and they will look it up on their comp. Your pick up should have been serviced for the first 3 years at Toyota to keep their guarantee. Older than that your asking for trouble as there owners would more than likely have their car serviced at Somchai round the corner anything to save a few BHT.
If you can find one look for a Toyota 2.8lt as they are great on fuel, and have the extra power when required. As well as that Toyota never go wrong. My last 9 year old one I never even had to change a light bulb. Batteries yes + general servicing but nothing else. Best of luck It's also simple to get it in your name the garage you get it from will sort that. Private and you could have problems with changing the name, + there will be a small tax to pay. Hope this helps.
Very interesting, thank you. Please keep us posted.
That Red For Ranger would fetch $60k AUD in Sydney at the moment . I’d Jump on that for under 20k Aud . I have one , I love it . Tray would be probably too small for you.
Love the truck shopping. Checking for flood damage is very important. You are very thorough. Thanks for the info.😎
Glad to help 👍😃
Nice work! You never cease to amaze! 🙂
Loucous...you're right about those tires buddy...they look like sticks of gum wrapped around a wheel. I think they started that trend over here in the US.👍
Hi Lucas, The reason I bought a quad 4 is we like to go fishing in Canada, all 4 of us. It's a pre runner not four wheel drive, an extra 400 LBS really cuts down the gas mileage. The Toyota pre runner is a 4.0 6 cylinder with enough power and cruising speed. The more weight the smoother the ride. You put 500 LBS in it and it just glides down the road. Toyota are very dependable. and everybody has parts if you need them. My quad has a long bed, but you can put down the tail gate and be fine.
Another good vid as usual Lucas.
Thanks for great choice, video and information! Interesting as the size truck you are looking for seems to make the most sense. I think you have far more small truck to choose from, here in States, they have all gotten so big, and thirsty. Great video and thanks for bringing us along car shopping! All the BEST to you and Cheers :)
Yes, the full size trucks would not work well here, some of the roads are just too small.
Remember the "Resale Red" quote.....red sells because it's an eye catching color the price goes up.
Great, Very informative Video. It reminded me of a few things I already knew but had slipped my mind
Always insist if possible to hear the engine start up from dead cold. You can hear for knocking if the rod or main bearings are worn out. This usually goes away after it warms up and the metal expands.
Good information Lucas.
‘Buyer be aware’
I saw this cool thing called a “ trailer “. Turns out you can haul bikes on those too, with a variety of different vehicles.
I looked at trailers in Thailand as I was considering ditching my truck for a small automatic hatchback that could tow a small trailer. I didn't really like what I found at the prices they were asking.
Yeah, an option but hard enough to find a single parking space, let alone a double, plus trailers are a big PITA IMO.
@@Rides4Kickz I hear you, but how often are you going to be hauling anything?
I'm glad you're getting a pick-up. I've been thinking for awhile you should have one, and I think you're going to be happy having one to call your own.
Thanks for sharing Lucas 👍
My recommendation would be purchase a used truck from Isuzu or Toyota direct (or any other major manufacturers) and see if it has any factory or extended warranty left on it. Check for mildew smell and check for overspray around the window rubber seals and where body panels meet other body parts if its been repainted or not. Rule of thumb is don't go over 3 or 4 years old and keep it under 60,000 kilometers. Make sure your motorcycle fits in the bed with ramps. Take it for a test ride. A Diesel engine would be good for better fuel consumption, more torque and reliability. Also an automatic transmission would be nice as it is one less thing to worry about while driving, its is all about your comfort! Lastly, notice if the new car dealers have a big sale and/or buy it at the end of the month or year, then buy new!
Great informative vdo. Just sbscribed to your channel and very impressed on the 4 or 5 I've watched so far.
Great info. I would go one step further when checking a used car and connect a OBD2 scanner. Good luck with your purchase.
Great blog I worked at a car auction part time for 14 years, great co workers , fun job.
Very cool!
Great tips and advice for purchasing a used car.
Thanks 👍
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This was interesting. I just happened to buy a used sedan today. I recognize that I am not all that technically proficient with vehicles, so for the most part I prefer to buy new ones so I can control the maintenance it gets. Today though was a used sedan as the daughter's first vehicle. While I may (probably) paid a bit more than you would have if you were doing it, I used Toyota Sure and reviewed the maintenance records the dealer had on the vehicle. I'm happy with the experience, and the daughter is happy getting her first car. I guess that's the important parts. Now I just need to beat into her brain to have the oil changed every 10,000 km. 555
Haha, yes good luck with that but she must be over the moon with her very own set of wheels, very nice Gar 👍
Good stuff Lucas.. Thanks for sharing your knowledge👍
The Wife and I are seriously talking about selling everything we own in the U.S. and moving to Thailand....
She is Thai... It would be an easy transition...
Uh oh! "DRIVES 4 KICKS" is coming. :) thx again for putting out a clip each day on the weekend. I like watching your work while I smell my breakfast cooking.
Enjoy!
Your past industry experience really has shone through with your advice tips.
Excellent content topic 😎👍
Cool, thanks 👍🙏
My diesel truck is 17 years old with hundreds of thousands of kilometers. It ain't pretty but it runs great and I don't have to worry about somebody wanting to steal it or scratch it up. It's amazing how people who own really nice vehicles will give me my right of way at intersections too...lol. Replacement parts and repairs are cheap, cheap, cheap. I just put 4 new tires on it for 9,000 Baht total, including front end alignment. Like you said , I only drive it occasionally locally, but for trips I throw (foldable ramp) our old motorcycle into the bed and away we go. Nice vid!
That's great 👍
Great video. Thanks. I'll be in the market for a truck later next year. I'd like to compare prices (Chiang Mai, Bangkok, Pattaya, etc) and also understand the servicing options based on where the vehicle is purchased.
If you have the money, buy new, simple as that, if you don't have the money, buy as new a truck as you can afford, there is just less chance of something major going wrong. Isuzu is held in great regard in Thailand, but for me, Toyota is the safe bet, i have had a rake of Toyota cars and trucks over the years, never had a major problem with any of them, and some of them have been 20 years old. I obviously don't need to advise you Loucous, you know your trade, but for other potential buyers. You were right to point out flooding issues in Thailand, accidents and also a lot of trucks are used on bad roads in Thailand, farms, dirt tracks etc, and take a real pounding. Sometimes it helps to see where the number plate is registered, ie what province, can help to gauge how the truck has been used, and on what kind of roads, but not always. Your a brave man riding around everywhere on a bike, Thai divers are average at best, the roads are average, and the weather can be against you. Good luck with your hunt, it's defo the way to go.
We purchased a brand new Toyota and it broke down in less than a week. Toyota quality has gone down quite a bit. Maybe it's different in Thailand.
All good stuff, many thanks 👍🙏
@@jamslam5641 Not sure, i have had Toyota's all my life, in the UK and in Thailand, never had a problem, maybe you were just unlucky, no brand is perfect, but in my experience, and in most customer polls, Toyota is right up there with the best for reliability. Take care.
Congrats on hitting 50k subs :)
I’d get a Toyota. I learned my lesson a couple times. Also, I’d be very cautious of previously flooded vehicles.
I like all your videos, good content always👍
Many Thanks 👍🙏
love this topic mate
I haven’t finished watching but go the Toyota HiLux /Vigo 2 door extra cab 2door with the back seats for 2 1.8m tray . On my third and love them. Will only own a Toyota…… built in Thailand makes sense to me 🤷
Chevy are very good deal now in Thailand as they are now pulling out of the Thai market , i bought a almost new Sonic LTZ for under 300,000 . still very pleased with it .
A new 2021 ford ranger XL Street is approximately 20,000. usd. It's a Extra cab with a desiel engine and 6 spd. Manual transmission. Looks like a good value to me.
Another great video !
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Interesting. I think the second-hand prices here are very high, but then again I have never been to an auction, only just looked at dealers.
Great tips for identifying flood damage and false km. 👍
Hi, Lucus & Vee enjoyed your video. You are a wealth of knowledge when it comes down to buying a vehicle whether on two or four wheels. A man of many talents. I think the second-hand Truck is the way forward and far cheaper. As long as it has a service history. 50,000 miles on a truck is nothing. Look forward to seeing where this leads.
Take care GOD Bless you and yours. M
Our pleasure! 👍👍
Great car and truck buying tips for us. Agreed, crew cab short bed Utes are very popular but can't haul much. Good Thai budget 350-450K THB for a used space cab D-Max or Hilux with a normal or high rider body lift suspension to make it through the flooding days there. Patts this year been hit hard with rain flooding. Plenty of trucks in Thailand but finding a takin care of great deal could be tricky. Find a the high volume dealers at the manufactures level; Isuzu and Toyota have low mileage trade ins and loaners for sale. Unless they all go to the auction house there.
Even a new long bed regular cab base work truck new in Thailand is under 600k. Taxi fleets that are Nissan Navara could be cheaper. Chok Dee ! Be safe n sane on the Thai roads !
Very interesting. I hate buying and selling vehicles. Some people love it, like your father.
Great video 👍
I wish they sold that Chevy with the small turbodiesel and a manual in the US. Would be a great small work truck.
There's a diesel option on the Colorado pickup
Good points. I worked fleet for GM Holden we had subsidised fleet pricing and guaranteed buy backs. However, these cars were usually base model or next one up. Plain Jane colours and usually regulated on emission criteria.
In my opinion as a used car sales Manager in Australia that stuff does sell but has low profit margin, due to supply abundance. Fleet doesn't necessarily set the market. I don't purchase late model low km fleet packs, no point. Better off diversifying.
We also do finance differently. Someone else can't just pick up the payments, the buyer has a contract with the lender and has a payout figure. That figure must be paid out before sold or borrowed against.
Yeah, I just meant in terms of someone who has the best idea of what a car will be worth after 3 years, they live and breathe that stuff.
nice vid mate interesting to see the prices
The video that i wait for a long time. Buying car or motorbike in thailand. 👍👍👍👍❤❤❤
Hope you enjoyed it!
In the uk second hand values are up 30 percent this year due to slow down of cars being manufactured. Chip problems ETC. you need to look at history of prices for the last few years. What goes up must come down!
good informative video it would be great if you can provide some guidance to buying second hand big bikes. could really learn some stuff from ya
Man o man, did you time this video right!
I'm planning on retiring in Jomtien in Feb and plan on buying a truck (ostensibly for the same reasons) and was curious about used vs new. First, THANK YOU!
Next, probably an obvious question, but the sticker price can be negotiated, right?
I would be interested in hiring you (or steak dinner & beers!) to be my "life coach" 🤣 on buying a truck & motorcycle.
I'm interested in the Honda NC750X DCT. In fact, if you made a video on that bike, I'll watch it a dozen times!😎
Thanks!
Yes, but in my experience they do not have as much room to negotiate here as opposed to the US dealers. Many times finance or bank fees help US dealers close a deal selling the vehicle very cheap but I believe here they do not have those options
Just bought a used truck a few days ago as well. The options in Pattaya were super scarce and had to make my way to Bangkok though. Paid a bit more than I wanted, but all the Hilux Revo doublecabs were selling out like fire everywhere.
I've noticed it seems there are many more options down in Rayong, I will try there before BKK, but yes, scarce options in town for sure.
@@Rides4Kickz 😲 I should have checked Rayong! Don't know why I didn't think of that 😂
Good luck on the search! Have pretty much watched all your videos and will be looking forward to more. Also bought some of those gold baht bars when you uploaded the video haha 😆
Great tips mate. I'm going to go to the auction as I'm looking for 4 or 5 to rent outside the bar. How often is the auction?
Awesome 👏🏼
Some great advice there Rick regardless of where you live in the world 👍🙏
Sorry to bother you can provide websites for auctions in issan Khon kaen or udonthani please?
Used car prices have risen worldwide at the moment because of the shortage of computer chips for most new vehicles. The trick I use in australia ( when buying anything) is to get the salesman on the back foot. I just tell them what I want and don’t care if I buy off him or someone down the road. Usually gets them thinking.
The body panel for the A pillar on that white Chevy near the end of the video did not align with the rest of the body panels. I'm not sure, but it also looked like there was some damage under the driver-side mirror on the door, and a chip in the paintwork on the hood.
Those are Rays Volks wheels on that white Chev truck, worth big bucks here in the UK. Look amazing on that truck, i would'nt swap them !
Great video, lots of information can you do the same video on used scooter that will be nice too , thanks for everything , coming soon
Toyota all day long. Although, these days Chevy and Ford specifically in the pickup category get huge mileage too.
I get the sense even though it’s a used car dealership you don’t have to experience the sleazy used car salesman vice.
I’m assuming you can haggle down considerably if you buy out right in cash as opposed to making payments.
Great video, are you looking diesel or petrol? I have always been a petrol guy. Last December I bought a Mazda, it was a toss up between the diesel and petrol, in the end the front end torque swayed me. Its one of the best decisions I have made with the increase in gasoline prices here in Australia, and economy wise its brilliant
Here's a recent learning experience tip: If the vehicle is a keyless push-button start and it doesn't come with two keys, get ready for some sticker shock if you need/want a second key. And heaven help you if you loose both those buggers. :-)
Used cars in Thailand have so much less depreciation than the west better to just buy a new one.... warranty, the dealer will throw in some extras free insurance, win win win
Chevrolet have pulled out of Thailand now, so getting ongoing spares and servicing might be a drama.
For safety's sake, don't get one without a B pillar in case you get T-Boned. You should also know it's common for cars dealers in SE Asia to turn back the tachometer showing you much lower mileage. Take you time and shop around. Don't rush into things. And keep in mind Vee may not do very well riding in a Toyota.
I am a valuation analyst for Cox Automotive (parent company of Manheim). You did an excellent job breaking down a used auto purchase. The info presented applies everywhere capitalism controls the used car market. Thank you. Magnet referenced by previous comment not completely accurate as some cars use Aluminum for certain body panels. They make paint meters that work on everything except fiberglass ( think corvette ) -- FYI
Wow, thanks Sean 👍
good tip on looking for flood damage
You bet
Thais love throwing those TE37 wheels on everything. Not a bad look but, I agree, no point in low profile tires on a truck used as a truck. Best of luck!
Yep, function over form when it comes to a truck.
Right on 👍🙏
good info
Glad it was helpful!
One of the big variables in Thai vehicle prices is wether a vehicle is made in Thailand or imported. Taxes are very high on imported vehicles.
Ford Rangers are made in Thailand for instance so much cheaper than imported new trucks.
Yeah, same same for bikes
Those prices for old junkers, crazy market conditions in Thailand
Second hand prices in Thailand are ridiculous imo.
Way over the odds
Hi Lucas, what will be your planned method of loading and unloading your bike?
Maybe they have a sale for thanksgiving, car price are crazy in NVa right now , I work at a Toyota dealer ,new car are 8k to 10 k over sticker . They call it adjusted price dues to the car shortage. When a truck come to drop of new car it like Christmas, all the sale men look to see what here and 1/2 are sold already , they sold a TRD pro 15k over sticker last week , crazy times , even the price for bacon up it was 6$ more for the same pack ,
important is lucas that you buy a car at a place where you can go back when a problem comes up
Good point 👍
I saw a video a couple of years ago that explained the high number of nearly new/2 to 3 tear old second hand cars for sale. It said a lot of people get a job and can then get a 7 year loan deal to buy them after 2 or 3 years they lose their job and can't afford the repayments and dealers get flooded with these cars but have to cover the loan payments which keeps the prices high and therefore it is better to buy a new vehicle because of the price differential being so close. Hence all those car lots with hundreds of 2nd hand cars.
Yeah, should be many nice used vehicles around now.
@@Rides4Kickz Also, a year before Covid hit, the government was subsidizing major incentives for first time buyers with a very small down payment required. A huge percentage of those ended-up defaulting.
One supposed local auto industry pro told me Thailand exports most low mileage re-possessed vehicles to 3rd world countries so not to dilute the local new car market. I don't now if true or not.
Before starting, check the inside of the oil cap for moisture; then check the radiator cap and fluid, if its chocolate milk or rusted, bad. Then check the oil on the dipstick, chocolate milk, bad. Then if automatic trans, check the dip stick.. if it's strawberry milk shake, bad.
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Even auction houses manipulate the market value of vehicles. Cox Automotive would be the biggest gangsta in auto auction industry !
I have been to many Auctions in Chiang mai (Union and Manheim ,mainly Union ) for motorcycles .(i used rent them out ) .At the car Auctions i noticed the dealers would regularly peel off the rubber seal around the door frame to check for whatever ? rust ? body repair ? flood damage ?
Yeah, probably either rust or body repair and/or to see if it is a factory seal or replacement.
Good insights, though I'd be wary of a Chevy now that they've left the country.
My dad bought a Chevy truck and it used to accelerate on its own on the freeway. My first ever car was a Chevy sports car and didn't have a problem until my dad crashed it. Maybe it was his driving.
@@jamslam5641 555 My first car was an '85 Camaro! Always easy to find parts if something failed. That's what I'd be worried about now that they're gone.
How hard is it to get use to right hand drive. I also find that 10 to 12 year old are the best deals you can get them dirt cheap, they may need some work but if you do it right you get great deals. my wife car is a 2008 I bought it for 3k and replace the shocks and a cv joint around $1800 in repairs, these had to be done at the time we bought the car, and just replace the alternator $300 repair. and we have used it for 2 years now if we use it for another 2 years that will be $1250 per year for a car that is great to drive and is fairly clean. I do have fun with old cars and trucks I bought a 2005 Tahoe for $2600 and used it for 5 years now and just bought tires and a battery. It does need a trans now it starting to shift slow, but I will just sell it for parts and may even get $1000 back. still $520 a year for a car is very good, made out on that one. looking for my next one now.
Yes, if you are lucky with repairs those are often cheap transportation. But could go the other way too and need transmission work or AC evaporator or some other high dollar repair as well.
Back in 2018 I was shopping for a used car in Buriram. Very expensive and little selection. I ended up buying a 2011 Toyota compact in Bangkok for 380,000. Drove it for a year and sold it back in Buriram for 425,000. I think there is a business there. Buy in BKK, sell in smaller markets.
Wow, but 425k for an 8n year old truck sound very high, mileage must have been low and in excellent condition.
Great vid... flooded car damage answered... What about the red plates? (heard can't take those out of province, T or F?)
Some can, I see red Bangkok plates here all over the place 🤣
B/S I have had 3 new red plate cars and I have taken them everywhere. The last one I got had BKK red plates. I live 350 KM outside BKK so I was out of province as soon as I drove it out of the local Toyota garage. Problem what problem.
Be careful……it’s very hard to get parts for a lot of vehicles there……especially American made…..Toyota, Mitsubishi seem to be much easier if they need to be worked on….nice video!
Thanks for the info
Great common sense video Lucas. When spending 500,000bt,+ you have to use your head. Just because it's pretty it may not be the best deal. Same rule applies to the ladies.
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To Toyota tundra which is called helix is absolutely the best easiest maintenance truck