Arn Anderson calls Barry Wyndham turning on Lex Luger to become a Horseman
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One of the greatest heel turns. I like how Barry Windham threw up the 4 fingers when he was walking out with JJ Dillon. I miss this era of wrestling.
This was back when I watched wrestling and I still think Windham is the most underrated wrestler from that time.
Barry Windham should have been pushed when Magnum was lost to injury everyone knows Magnum was gonna be pushed to the moon Barry should have been his replacement
@@TheRpf1977 substance issues
Barry could wrestle air and have a 5 star match
@@TheRpf1977 yeah he ain’t want it cash in pocket a bad bitch and a car Barry was good
Plus Windham said he wouldn’t have been able to keep up with the schedule and have the overall responsibility that the world champion had at the time.
That was a classic moment!!! JJ Dillon showed how crucial a role manager can play in a story line--something that is sorely lacking today. An incredible moment in wrestling history that I still vividly remember to this day!!! And Jim Ross sold the aftermath to perfection!!!
I've watch this match several times, and my belief is that some of these wrestlers deserved Oscars..... I've talked to Barry Windham a few times, he's a sweetheart of a guy... He's one that deserves an Oscar, for playing a heel convincingly... true talent.
Barry Windham...... What a Talent he could do it all
This whole angle is the PINNACLE of professional wrestling!!!!
Back when story telling was at its finest and Barry had teh talent to run with it.
This was the greatest Heel Turn as at the time to me. I remember seeing it as a kid, I couldn't believe it. And this was a time when Heel Turns weren't on a regular like they are today, especially in the WWE.
Looking back, they built this perfectly. You can hear and feel the terror of the fans as Barry turns on Lex. Jim Ross and Tony Schiavone are TOPS! Windham fit The Four Horsemen perfectly, he even slimmed down a little more, EVERYTHING about it changed. He was SO GOOD, but they all were. I still watch 80s NWA to this day. 80s NWA still stands up today.
Let’s not dismiss that Barry picked lex up who was standing outside the ring. Grabbed him. No launch at all from lex. Lex didn’t jump at all. Barry. Hooked his crotch and power slammed him standing outside the ring to inside the ring. Wow. That was brute power. Gees. Barry was a beast.
That was one of my top 10 all Favorite Time matches! I love The Horseman from the day one! I rooted for all the heels
This is the greatest heel turn of all time, in my opinion. Unexpected and no prior clues that it was coming.
That was a great turn, no argument but if you were there in 1980' and saw what IMO was the greatest turn in Ole Anderson turning on Dusty Rhodes, that one cracked the earth. Better yet was Ole at next week on TV with Gordon Solie, that was pure magic and for as good as Ole's promo was, maybe the best ever, Gordon played his part to perfection. As for Barry, loved to watch that guy work, for such a big man he was cat like who could go in the ring. As good a Dusty was shooting a baby face promo, Barry was that much better in the squared circle.
He sure had me angry that night. Barry was my favorite until then
Lugers' heal turn on Ricky Steamboat was good too. "Come on Ricky, let's go"....close line, torture rack.
@@mw7967 yeah but luger was a shitheead by then. BARRY was a total shock
I remember someone talking about it on a cheat sheet. At the time, it was considered as crazy.
I was thrilled as a Horseman fan. These were the good old days
Dusty going back to the locker room to see what happened with Barry, was what made this one for the ages.
Man it was fun watching wrestling in the 80's.
This is what separated the NWA from the others they had great action but even better storytelling just caught everyone by surprise because Luger and Barry were over they were big stars people would go crazy when they came in the room with those belts so no one would have figured the double cross was coming!!!
This is one of the best executed turns EVER! My little 17yo brain was twisted in a knot watching this. A heel turn should play out like a mystery in a novel or movie. There should be breadcrumbs leading up to the turn for sure. They should be subtle enough to justify the reveal and still be shocking once it happens. And as a long time BW fan I feel like his transition into the Horsemen really leveled him up.
That was great but Dusty (as the Midnight Rider) going into the heel locker room and Ric Flair just giving a look of 'WTF?' then the attack starts by all the heels and you hear Kevin Sullivan yelling 'GET HIS FACE!".
Notice that the first guy "Midnight Rider" hits is Tully @6:51 always Heat between those two
Boy that sent chill down my spine. Such great memories . 4 horsemen rule !
Barry was such a great worker, as a horseman fan, i really loved this. What a bonus to see Dusty get his butt kicked, too.
The look on Ric Flair before he jumps Dusty was priceless
Man I miss these days. Great story telling. I really miss WCW.
It was the first time I can remember the NWA World Tag Team Title changing hands in Jacksonville. I don't believe the NWA World Heavyweight Title ever changed hands. Jacksonville has always been a big-time wrestling audience in attendance and PPV. Shame on NWA for not having more titles change hands in Jacksonville. I would have worked the angle differently by having the Horsemen persuade Luger to rejoin them. After several declines by Luger, secretly Windham turns as he did in Jacksonville. Windham was a huge Baby Face over in Jacksonville from the old Florida Championship Wrestling Days.
Episodes like that one world wide was so much better then anything today
I remember that turn well. I'd been watching Barry since he was in the US Express with Mike Rotunda. I wasn't able to imagine him as anything but a good guy. In fact, my initial thought was, "He's not going to be very good at being a bad guy."
Glad to have been proven wrong. It was interesting, I didn't know anything about ring psychology, but I noticed that when Barry wrestled as a heel, he started to use his size and weight against his opponents in a way he never did as a face.
Remember watching it on TV. Awesome.
Tony was the best commentator ever in wrestling history. Close second would be Gordon soley.
One of the best angles in wrestling history
Loved Jim Crockett’s Shows!! Heel or Face turns came out of No Where. They were rarely Long Buildups. GREAT SHOCK VALUE!!
I've been saying this for 35 years. This stands out as my single best memory as a wrestling fan ever. #1 greatest moment in professional wrestling for me. Watching it again brings tears to my eyes. Poor Dusty got angry.
While there may have been bigger heel turns in wrestling (Orndorff on Hogan, Hogan joining the NWO), this one here has always been my personal favorite.
James J, Dillon yelling FOLLOW HIM DON'T JUST STAND THERE. FUNNY AS HELL
I was shocked as a kid! And for the first time I was conflicted to cheer a heel! Bc Barry was my favorite he was the best athelete! Other heel turns were great but this one was the most memorable. I was not expecting it. In the end I had to hold up the 4 fingers!
MAN, Barry was a good guy. I’ll never forget that turn!!! That was a crime.
As a young teen obsessed with rastlin I was pissed at Barry for this! I couldn't believe it and I think I may even have cried! In those days the feuds, stories, the roar of the crowds, It made it seemed real and drawn you in all the way. THATS HOW GOOD it was back then!
I absolutely loved the father figure role Dusty had with everyone especially BW.
Barry Windham’s heel turn was devastating to watch and is still the most emotional heel turn ever in my opinion. JJ Dillon screaming in Barry’s ear. “I told you he wouldn’t be there!!!” Lex hanging onto Barry only to catch a Flying Lariat. Dusty invading the locker room “What are you doin?” “Don’t turn your back on me!!!” Then Sting and Doctor Death Steve Williams using there backs to cover Dusty from getting beat. Nikita Koloff coming in to fight off the bad guys and help his comrades escape. EPIC!!!!
I was a kid when this happened I remember I was crushed that Barry went to the dark side. Perfect turn
What year was this?.
@@Ltc92-14 April 1988. I only remember because I got to see the NWA in person that year for the first time for my birthday right after it happened.
Most people look at orndorff turning on hogan then hogan turning on savage to join the nwo as the greatest heel turn ever but this one never gets mentioned when a friend told me at school this happened I couldn’t believe it because it was Barry windham and he was always a face in wwf, nwa and Florida and that’s why it was epic no one saw it coming plus he wrestled a great match brilliant!
You know the crowd was pissed when The Network had to virtually mute the crowd because they drowned out JR & Tony screaming.
Back then as a kid I HATED the horsemen but now knowing that was there job… I love my memories of them.
I vividly remember when Barry turned
I have a theory that the 4 Horseman would have been better if either Lex or Barry had stayed permanent members.
The G.O.A.T of Heel turns 👏😁👏
Nobody could tell stories like JCP.
Greatest heel turn ever in my opinion
Arn sounds more and more like Terry Funk lol
I knew there was static between Luger & Windham because before that point of Windham turning Lex Luger & Barry were doing separate interviews as if they didn't want to be around each other. I also notice Arn kind of taking a shine to Barry complimenting him being a work horse.
Another one of Back and forth Barry's heel turns .
I gotta admit that I liked him better as a heel , I never felt that he was believable as a face .
"Storytelling." The story is great for sure, but make no mistake the acting or 'working' by everyone involved is Hall of Fame caliber too.
My favorite heel turn of all time.
This is my favorite heel turn of all time.
Schoolgirls,& Housewives had Soap Operas. Boys,& Men had Pro Wrestling. Don't expect either of us to be ashamed. For Wrestling fans specifically, this was suspense at it's FINEST. FROM JJ's " I told ya " to Jim Ross's...." BARRY NO!!!!" this match is one for the archives.
Barry is My Favorite Horseman!!!!!!! I have the Four Horseman DVD and I think this Match is on it
Pure gold.
best version of the horsemen in my opinion !!! yet they were not together very long i think late april till 1st week of september yet there domination was by far there best!!!!
The real star in this is JJ Dillon.
Twin Towers?? Am I forgetting something?? It was the Varsity Club Mike Rotunda, Rick Steiner and Kevin Sullivan.
Did anyone notice The Midnight Rider unlacing his mask before the Horsemen jumped him?
Did you also noticed Barry Windham was the one who took the mask off the MIDNIGHT Rider
Gavin says : I started watching WWF in 1992 and it was on video and also I watched the 1992 WWF survivor series but then I watched wcw and Jim cornette had gone by then so I started watching two different stars and it was the late Brian pillman and Stunning Steve who later on became Stone cold but then I watched Sting as well my comment is this what would Arn have done if in 1997 things would have taken a different direction and he would have gotten a push instead, how would Arn been affected?!! Curiously, Gavin!!!
Without a doubt the greatest Horsemen!!
Big W STILL doesn't get the respect he deserves!
This is when i learned the difference between wwf and real pro wrestling. I still loved wwf but this put me solidly in the nwa camp. ❤
Best heel turn i have ever seen....the only other one that i never saw coming was Vince McMahon the commentator transitioning into Mr.McMahon and he has played that character a little too well for my liking.....how much of his tv persona is actually really him in real life one wonders
Beautiful
I was there a great match plenty of heat for Windham still my opinion ole Anderson version of 4 horsemen the Best
Free ad kept the good parts hidden
My world fell apart that day☹️
That is a perfect example of what is wrong with wrestling today. They don't do anything to make you truly hate the heal characters. Not a little hate, a huge hate. And the announcers sound like a Visine commercial. The just don't have any heart when calling the matches. They can't draw the viewers into the story today.
thats story telling
They never did find out who actually was the Midnight Rider under the mask. Possibly Harley Race. And Nikita lost his stroke once he had hair.
Barry made the PERFECT HORSEMAN
No flips, no dives or crowd catches
Come on!!! No one is doing this type of storytelling nowadays!!
Still the greatest turn in wrestling history. As a kid I was just blown away by the entire thing.
I am NEVER a fan of Jim Ross Now Or Then BUT nobody Did Heel or Face Turns Better than Jim Crockett Promotions. They weren’t week By Week, NOPE, THEY CAME OUT OF NOWHERE, Almost Completely Unexpectedly! To me TONY SCHIAVONE and DAVID CROCKETT were AWESOME along with Gordon Solie & Bob Caudell!
BARRY NNNOOOO!!!!....🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Money 💰
@4:38
arn laughing
Best heel turn EVER!!!!!!!!! Bobby Heenan (RIP) ruined Hogan's turn by saying "Yeah, but who's side is he on?"
Heenan didn’t ruin it at all. He was always questioning Hogan, it wasn’t anything out of the ordinary
NO THAT WAS GREAT STUFF BY EVERYONE INVOLVED ,TODAY CAN'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO THAT.
He was so believable. He was great
Georgia wrestling was the best , no blurred lines the babies were square. The bad guys were as bad as it gets.lot of squash matches but the show started with wrestling and ended with wrestling.
(1988)
I watch this for Arn, not for you Conrad.
Nothing in wrestling looks that real anymore
So true.
Cant see nothing with that dumb ad free up
God Damn today's wrestling is so boring and out of touch with the fan base. I am 51 and glad I grew up with the 70's, 80's, and 90's wrestling.
Biggest swerve in wrestling.
It wasn't a swerve type turn though.
Sad
Tell me anything Windham did in his career that was noteworthy?
A year ago you wondered what was noteworthy about BW. A year later, your comment still isn't noteworthy. No one cares about your opinion. Especially when you can't spot talent. Bye Felicia