A Klipper Prusa Clone... For $420?!
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THANK YOU for watching this video. Let me know in the comments what you think... is this the best value in 3D Printing right now? Please keep comments respectful... I'm a human being, too!
I absolutely love your videos, but the video title and thumbnail are taking the piss out of prusa a bit too much, lot of people clicked on the video to see a Prusa in action, nothing against sovol, I think they are great, I just think its a bit stupid to make an entire video on why you dislike Prusa and then effectively use Prusa to get people to click on a sovol plug.
no hate, don't take this the wrong way, I love your videos
@@giginewt I don't understand your point. The thumbnail and video title have nothing to do with Prusa. It clearly says SOVOL SV06
@@giginewt everyone knows prusa colors look like Pornhub, your fault for not realizing it
@@elleryfg7853 its been changed now
Thanks for changing it, great video!
Great discussion! My entry to 3D FDM was this Sovol SV06. I got in on the original early bird buy. I was up and running my first Benchy in 25 minutes. I've had outstanding results since that first print with the only issues being user error and the learning experience. My SV06 Plus is on the way (again on the early bird, $299 price), and you've just convinced me to get my hands on the Sonic Pad to rule them both. I'm using the printers in my real life job as an engineer, and have been very pleased that I've turned 4+ week deliverables for prototypes into an overnight internal process. No more tooling fees, custom plastic color fees, of expedite fees!
Oh, and I added a resin printer for fine detail parts.
I really really really REALLY, want the Mk3s+ X Creality-Klipper video. That would be soooo freakin cool. I still love my Dinosaur printer cause how prints never fail but, if it was faster, I could accomplish so much more. Thank you for making these crazy awesome videos that nobody else is doing. Keep killin it.
I hear you. I'm scared to do it, but, if enough people ask... I will upgrade the dinosaur.
I love this video! I've looked at the Sonic Pad a few times, but the $270 (CDN) price was a bit high, however I did not realize I could run multiple printers from ONE pad! Game Changer once my SV06 Plus arrives and I have space to set it next to my SV06 and Ender 3 Pro. Thanks for the insight and showing this off!
Thank you, excellent video. I'll be waiting for the SV06 Plus, and hopefully we'll see a new version of the SV05 with similar upgrades to compete with the P1P.
Definitely interested in seeing a video on upgrade your Prusa to Klipper, that's actually how I found this video. I've been searching for guides on and off today on upgrade a MK3S to Klipper. The Prusa is still a great printer and has good hardware, but it would be nice to be able to upgrade the software to add new features like gantry leveling, faster printing, possibly improved bed leveling? I did order a new Revo hotend for my MK3S, but otherwise I haven't upgraded any of the components.
Great job! Now I’m looking at that touchscreen. We have an aging Ender 5+ at work, the first 3D printer I’ve used, and found it fun. However, when I bought my SV06 I found out what could be. Excited to get it to print faster now. Was looking at Klipper until this review. Thanks!
That Creality Sonic Pad looks great. It seemed that the 3D printer market slowed for a year or so, but Klipper is now leading to some rapid development in the 3D printing market. I thought about buying an SV06+ and adding a Klipper pad to it but I think we're now close enough to manufacturers providing fully featured Klipper bed slingers with all the features we want - large build area, WiFi connectivity, high flow all metal 300C nozzle to print fast, improved part cooling to print fast at high quality, etc. However, the idea of a small print farm with four SV06+ printers running under one Sonic Pad is pretty sweet.
I'm not interested in a 20 minute PLA Benchy. I mostly print TPU so I won't benefit much from faster printing. My interest in Klipper is input shaping for better trajectory planning to improve part quality. If that means I can get better parts at 80 mm/s than I currently get at 50 mm/s, then that's even better, but my goal is improved part quality, not speed. I also want Klipper for better control of the printer through a Fluidd browser interface.
I don't even need that very nice Sonic Pad touch screen. I'm happy to interface exclusively via Fluidd on my PC. I wouldn't be surprised to see a manufacturer offer a high speed and high print quality bed slinger with headless Klipper to greatly decrease cost. Add the SSID and WiFi password to a file on a USB thumb drive to get the 3D printer on the WiFi LAN and it pops up in Fluidd, ready to go. Does your laser printer or inkjet printer have a large color touch screen so you can print documents? No. It's controlled through your PC. 3D printers should be controlled from inside our slicer programs.
I just bought my first 3c printer an is a SV06, I'm in love with this machine. Please, do more videos about it!
I'll try!
Great video I'm completely new to 3d printing I ordered the svo6 plus and am waiting on that I can't wait to get it.
its fantasic piss easy to build . best machine i have had in 8 years of printing
Would love to see the Prusa conversion- been thinking about doing that myself but haven’t had the time to dig into it yet.
debating on this myself a sv06 plus and mk3s that I could convert. Still dont see how to do plate presets. Its so nice to use my 3 build plates on the prusa and not have to mess with offsets.
my first (and only for now) printer was/is a sovol svo6 that i got for Christmas then upgraded with the Klipper screen that sovol released (so not the creality one in the video) and i love it, it is super reliable and i have a few hundred hours on it and a few spools through it
Also in the config section you can go to the settings gear and hide backup files. should help clean things up quite a bit more
Jonathan!!! Yes, please do a follow up video. I'm considering purchasing a second printer and considering a Sovol however I'm torn between getting the SV06 with creality's pad or waiting for the SV06+. Thanks and keep kicking ass on your channel!
Sweet, fast and Klipper web interface usually don't together with cheap and cheerful. Great video, many questions were answered here, brother.
Glad it was helpful!
Nice video learning a lot about 3d printing
Thank you! More coming soon
I had an old touchscreen laptop I used for klipper and built an enclosure from scrap so i was able to do quite some upgrades with what i already had
This is awesome! I preordered the Sovol SVO6 Plus and this will be my GoTo first Todo :)
Great video, and yes, would be really fun to see the prusa running klipper, I mean, they are very trusted printers to work with, so why not make them modernized like that?
Yep, might have to do it!
@@thenextlayer you have to man. I would loooove to migrate both my MK3S to Klipper
I would love to see a Sovol SV5 (plus) with a bi-metal heat breake with Klipper install. That would be my ideal combo.
Great video by the way 👏
Thanks for sharing your expirence with all of us 👍 😀
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
It’s difficult to invest in any new I3. I’m more excited to see them update the SV05/Ender 5 models. I believe it’s also an easier platform to upgrade in the future.
Yeah waiting for that as well
It'd be a good idea to note that marlin is now capable of input shaping. Not sure about what firmware the SV06 is using but being open source it's entirely possible this feature will come to the sv06 (if sovol cares to add it)
So I'm actually running Marlin 2.1.2 on my Sovol and have input shaping set up. Running at an underwhelming 120MM/s has no really noticeable ringing. The ringing test didn't result in any ringing on the X though which is confusing but I got a value for the Y axis. I'm going to crank it up to 250 MM/s soon and see what it does. I'm considering moving to Klipper but Marlin 2.1.2 might be more than good enough for this printer.
Marlin does not support an accelerometer.
Interested to know how the higher flow nozzles on The SV06 Plus effects that benchy time.
Good thing the Sovol SV07 is here now with klipper and all his problems addressed already.
Please do a follow up converting your MK3S+. Also, will the sonic pad work with the Prusa that doesn't have built in wifi?
I'd love to see a Prusa to klipper video. You'd think Prusa would have already figured out some kind of "sonic pad" it could sell as a plug and play upgrade.
The sonic pad is one of my most loving printerpart.
It took a benchy on an Ender 3 V2 from 51 minutes to 25 minutes, with a direct drive on top of it.
No special hotends, no added gimmicks only an extra Z-axis.
It took my ender 5 pro from 48 minutes benchy to 24 minutes benchy, crazy !!.
The sonic pad is very easy, and knowing the results, cheap in comparison with alternatives like the PI or a pc.
Also the user-friendliness and the bright overview is worth a dime.
It took me (only configuration, not calibration) about half an hour to setup one printer.
The calibration took another hour to do right, but then it was up and running great.
The only disadvantage of the pad is that, when left unused, it goes into sleepmode and won't come out of it until the screen is touched and waited for a few seconds.
That annoys me a bit, because my printers are on the first floor and before I can print, I first have to "wakeup" the sonic pad.
Yeah. It's honeslty a great product, I have to say. Not perfect, but it's great. And they didn't pay me to say that!
Great video! Almost* exactly what I have been looking for! I hope you do a klipper upgrade video on the SV05. I bought one and so far love it, but would like to get into Klipper. I really wish Creality would expand their support for other machines, especially since the SV05 has a Creality board in it.
U don't need a tutorial just open the marlin homepage takes literally 5 min
@@severinheimbuchner3564 for Klipper & Sonic Pad?
Would love to see you upgrade the Prusa. Great video
You might wanna screw that accelerometer in next time. Double sided tape will dampen some vibrarions, especially if its foam tape. Also loose cables might mess with your input shaper quite a bit. Best way will be just designing a simple adxl holder or screwing it anywhere using existing screw, best way to secure cable will be to zip tie it to existing harness.
Came here to say this. Otherwise I liked the video. Lots of useful info.
I was wondering if it would make a difference... Yep, I'll try again with screws. THANK YOU for pointing out. Maybe I can get past 3K accel
@@thenextlayer Should be able to. Also remember that suggested accel on graph can be a lot less then actual max one with good quality. My V-Core 3.1 300mm has suggested accel of 15k with MZV shaper and Im totally able to print a ringingless benchy at 40k. Do your tests and check for yourself. Also if you want some help I can explain a lot of slicer stuff about benchies for you. With right settings you can cut your time in half while still going with challenge rules.
Hoping to see this running on the CR10 Smart Pro. Seems like a better bang for the buck than a Prusia I3 (?)
I'm hoping to find a printer that has all the capabilities of a CR10 SP for non tinkering use, but haven't found a cheaper option...any suggestions?
solvol used to use creality parts .. now they are showing them how to make a working printer out the box. the sv06 plus is brilliant! printing within 20 mins out the box
Agreed
Cool video! I noticed that you mentioned that you also had a Voron printer. Currently, I have an Ender 3 S1 Pro & a Sonic Pad. However, I do have an old Ender 3 v2 which I've contemplated converting to a Voron Switchwire. I'm guessing that there wouldn't be any issue using the Sonic Pad with a Voron system. Is that true?
I love my SV06, using it to fix my Ender 3 v2 Neo...wish I had just bought the SV06, but then I wouldn't have experience working on printers without the Ender breaking every few weeks.
True
Looking forward to seeing you do the mk3s -I'm wondering if it's worth grabbing a sonic pad to run my 2 prusas
I'm honestly a bit scared, but if enough people want to see it, I'll sacrifice and do it :)
Yes, please do a video upgrading the MK3 to use the pad.
I have 2 mk3s+'s and I'd like to see if the sonic pad could run them.
Hi Jonathan, thanks for the video. Let me ask you, I have a DIY 3d printer, it's similar to a Prusa Bear, I made it using the motherboard of a Easythreed (32bit board, pretty similar to a mks robin lite) printer that I had. I'm thinking about upgrading its motion system, removing the linear rods and using linear rails for more stable and faster prints, but I don't know if I should just make another printer with Core XY or if I should stick with the i3 style for longer. What do you think?
Btw, for context, I wanted to upgrade the board and thinking of future upgrades I ended up buying a manta m8p + cb1 so I kinda have part of what I would need for a good Core XY
CoreXY is a whole new ball game... it is the future, and it's time to give it a try!
my 350mm voron 2.4 with a rapido hf and bozzle .5mm high flow (like cht) tungsten carbide (which is better at conducting heat) nozzle can crank out 15 minute benchies that look pretty good. cooling becomes the number 1 issue. I have plenty of motor torque and flow left in the tank, but small features like the smoke stack and the supporting structure of the ship's bridge have layer times that are way too fast to practically cool before the next layer. I am forced to artificially limit my layer time in superslicer (which is basically superslicer). Given my findings of this bottleneck, it's my understanding that the only way to improve layer times while maintaining a decent looking print would be to re-tool the toolhead for additional cooling, add external cooling, or do something like a cpap mod. HOWEVER, because I didn't build my v2 to do speed benchies (I'm using it simply as it's originally intended, as a printer benchmark to tune speed vs quality), I'm extremely happy with my build and am ok with stopping here, keeping the stealthburner as it is per the manual. I'm satisfied.
re the sovol, while i'm impressed with the race to the bottom in terms of price, and further impressed by the overall engineering and feature improvements at that price point (i'm so glad they went with linear rods vs v-slot wheels for example, v-slot wheels are crap (I have a long history with an ender 3 that i've upgraded the crap out of), I can't help but be disenchanted by bed flingers. the simple matter of moving the bed, the build surface, the heater, the bed leveling hardware, etc. all on y severely limits acceleration capabilities, makes the printer physically bigger than it is in operation (because you need bed movement space), and is otherwise not a great design imo... I'm thinking I might just replace all my bed flingers with corexy printers in the near future. I'm currently building a v0 for small part rapid prototyping (while my v2 cranks out giant parts or whole beds of parts over the course of a day or 5), and I think I might start looking for a medium sized printer (~250mm build volume) to replace my ender 3 soon as well. I thought about converting it to a rook or a switchwire or something, but at this point, because it's well maintained, I think i might just sell it to someone beginning the hobby, and build or buy something else... the x1c is nice but expensive... i might just end up building a trident to complete the voron set heh.
I'm on the same setup almost exactly, but haven't broke 21 mins. Can you send me some 3MFs to try a 15 min benchy? Send it over on Discord :)
Thank you, I have been looking for a better way to run my old CR10 and lotmaxx that I have neglected because I got a X1 carbon so I went and bought it 4 min ito your video. Your awesome 🙂
Great idea! Thanks for supporting the channel, too!
I would really like to see this setup on a prusa, I am tired of endlessly waiting for prusa to update the mk3 with a newer board/sofware but it really seams like they wont...😭
I hear you. I'm scared to do it, but, if enough people ask... I will.
When I saw the thumbnail and that the sv06 was orange i clicked on it bc I thought you had a special edition and when i am writing this I realised that it was a kind of a click bait and you got me but it is was a really good click bait and not too dramatic like some other channels do so I give it a thumbs up 👍
Hehe thanks, it was supposed to grab your attention, but I've changed the thumbnail already b/c it wasn't performing.
I'm surprised you didn't upgrade the print cooling fans. I found I had to had a 5010 fan and dual duct to get proper cooling
It's open, so so far, so good... surprisingly. I have more issues on my voron with cooling - but it's a lot faster, admittedly.
May be getting the sv06 and the sonic pad is it really going to be a pain to get them working together?
I'm torn I could do this with some of my older printers but man after buying the X1C the market is only going to get better./cheaper and I'm really liking the corexy printers. I've ask this with a few other reviews how do you handle the z-offset for multiple build sheets per printer? It's just so easy with marlin you just select the profile. Speed is less of a concern for me its quality and ease of use.
I just put Klipper on a modded ender 3 using an Orange pi Zero. I'm not opposed to the Sonic Pad, but the Zero with 512mb ram was $21 and it does great with Klipper and a webcam. Also the setup was easy following a walkthrough from All3DP.
Wow... amazing! I've heard orange pi isn't as simple as raspberry.... Glad to hear it was easy. Any touch screen solution for it though?
I use my phone or my laptop over the web interface.
Great video! You should make a video on exclude object and obico on the sonic pad. I’ve looked everywhere and couldn’t find anything. Thanks
Great suggestion!
@@thenextlayer thanks, you are known for creating original content.
@@thenextlayer you can also make these instructions available for sale. I would be willing to pay for it.
Great video. How about the Sovol SV04, and all IDEX modes on the Sonic Pad?
I wish I had room for more printers, but right now, I don't... at least not till I get a studio :)
Klipper on an IDEX - would like to see that.
Dude! Thank you! I've had the sonic pad for a while and run my S1 Plus off it. I've been trying to get my Sovol svo6 connected for months and gave up after running into the same issues you had. Can't wait to give it another go. Great video
YESSSS, So glad the video helped someone :)
This video pushed me over the edge. Creality pad comes tomorrow for my cr6se
Nice, enjoy. I hope I didn’t lead you astray. I’ve loved it for the price!!
@@thenextlayer I have almost bought it many times but your the first trusted source who used it. If it brings new better life into the printer its a win. Plus the expandaby is attractive as well
I wish you would go through the whole thorough install for the sv06. That video you linked doesn’t have the file for sv06. It’s only for the plus.
I'd like to to see the prusa set up on kipper, I wonder how the mmu2s would work too 🤔
Awesome video!! is it just me or did you notice a strange problem with the time zones on the sonic pad?
Yeah, the strangest being, it doesn't have my time zone, LOL!
just converted my Ender 3 S1 Pro to Klipper with the sonic pad and got a 24min benchy!
Would love to see you upgrade your i3 with klipper
Hi, thanks for that video. You mentioned multiple cameras on the sonic pad via an usb hub. Did you actually test this? How did you manage to get it to work? TIA Wilhelm
I mentioned that you can add more usb ports for cameras but I didn’t try multiple cameras. Only one
@@thenextlayer Thanks, that's unfortunate because only one will work!
Please, please, please tell us how you got a workaround for the exclude object functionality. I'm dying to know! Thanks for the video 😊
Klipper has it! ModBot did a video on it. Check it out
@@thenextlayer Thank you. I just looked at his channel and found the video about exclude objects and it's on a newer version than we can get on the sonicpad. Also looked at the updated sonicpad video from him and he runs into the same issues not being able to actually do anything over ssh. Did you somehow get this working on the sonicpad?
I mainly print in PETG. Would this benefit my printer speed using this filament ?
I wouldn’t run all of the printers from the same pad just in case the pad fails but I would definitely convert all the printers to klipper.
My printers are using pi4bs with 5 inch touchscreens that they mount to running klipper and I could never go back to printing from sd card or not having a solid web interface.
My SV06 will also do a 28 minute benchy no problem but I haven’t found the limit yet either!
Ok love it. I bought Sovol sv06 in December them upgraded to p1p. I love more in-depth on how to setup sonic pad and sv06 for dummies and .I believe you could make money on a thumb drive with all downloads and videos step by step setup.
Certainly interested if you push it to a MK3.. I have a mini clone and my MK3S+ are the only machines NOT running klipper.. and admittedly if I could run 4 of them off that pad I could free up alot of pi inventory.
I'm planning on buying an SV06 Plus soon and already have a spare computer and screen for klipper, would I need to buy just an accelerometer to set it up for high-speed printing?
Ideally, yeah, because you need to do input shaping. I bought a $20 "portable input shaping tool kit" on AliExpress, haven't tested it yet, though.
Hoping you will come up to upgrade the prusa MK3s+ to Sonic pad.
I followed your video step by step and my sonic pad just says "printer is not ready klippy cannot connect" when I try and connect the sonic pad to the printer :(. Anyone know my issue?
Just found your channel, and I hope you are well. We are praying for all those caught in the terrible situation in Israel. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
This video could be a great discussion base for an *upcoming comparison with something like a Bambu Lab P1P, Prusa MK4 and Creality K1!*
Especially when also considering print *noise, price and repairability!*
I really like the upgrade path from a beginners perspective! In contrast to an expensive Prusa or Voron you can start with 250 bucks and ad that pad (with maybe a flexible enclosure) later down the road. So especially for a student, school kid or simply "another hobby beside the other 13 ones" it is much more affordable than a BL X1C or Voron 2.4 Kit.
p.s. You should have added "Sovol SV06" to your video title for Sovol owners to find the video as a guide!
Hey! I have a K1 on the way for comparison, for sure. I tested a bunch of titles, this one did the best :)
There may be some discussion here regarding the viability of the whole open source concept and why proprietary products might be the most rational approach for innovators.
Can you make add-ons to a printer like this to give it all the “features” a MK3S+ has? Would be awesome to get a printer as reliable for half the price and twice as fast
Like what? Auto filament feeding and... what else does the Prusa have? This already has auto bed leveling, etc, just like the Prusa. Just missing a filament runout sensor
@Buzás András The new Firmware does a better job with abl
The sonic pad is awesome! I've had it for about a week on my Ender 3 Max Neo and I still feel like I'm not using it to its full potential.
Agreed
I guess my big question is what is it going to take to get other printers usable with the Sonic Pad? Given how much trouble you had with the SV06, how would someone add another Sovol printer, or your Prusa, or another non-Creality printer? Super cool video, I'm just skeptical given your admittedly tough experience.
He didn't use the correct port so not a problem you will have. Same with the SD card issue.
i need help figuring out if i can connect my sonic pad to my sv06 without voiding my warrenty. im getting driver errors at the beggining of prints. ive had more failed prints then successful just cuz of the driver errors.. when this does print it prints so beautifully.. it just isnt reliable for me. idk how to read this error. can i install my sonic pad with sv06 to read the commands?
In your opinion, as first printer, is better this Sovol or the Elegoo Neptune 3 pro?
I haven’t tried any elegoo printers! But I can say this would be a good first printer if your budget is 300 or less. Otherwise maybe the bambu P1P would be my choice. Though you’ll learn more on a cheaper less sophisticated printer. So. Sovol.
Should I buy the Sv06 or the Kingroon KP3S S1 PRO? I have both in my cart right now, I plan on using klipper on either of them. The bed size of the Kingroon is good enough for me, and at least from the reviews it seems faster than the SV06. Btw, $208 for the Kp3s S1 pro, $133 for the Kp3s (18x18) and $280 for the SV06.
I have no experience with kingroom products but I don’t hear good things. I’ve had nothing but good experiences with Sovol products. Also SV07 runs klipper natively… I’d probably just get that.
Any chance you can do a video of configuring Sonic Pad with MK3S+?
Yeah this would be awesome !!!!!
I hear you. I'm scared to do it, but, if enough people ask... I will.
Filament runout sensor is a little hard to config in klipper.
I really think that the Anycubic Kobra 2 (which I think came out after this video, May 25th 2023) is another one of the best beginner friendly 3D printers, and is pretty fast being able to print up to 250mm/s..
And, has a high end print head, filament runout sensor, Very good build quality, Touch screen pad, can print a Benchy (with normal speeds 150mm/s) at 34 mins Without any major tweaks. And its price right now is $259, so add this Sonic pad and thats a much better set-up :)
I disagree. for $10 more the SV07 has internet connectivity and a touch screen. Kobra 2 relies on SD cards like it’s 2012…
how do you actually do this step by step. there are tasks required to do that are left out of the video. I load the spinixguy config file and the 11.0 bin in the root folder of the provided usb stick, set the motherboard settings on the sonic pad, it recognizes the printer.cfg file, but then what do I do? The sonic pad says to make sure the firmware is flashed on the machine. that isn't covered in the video. I was able to get something on the sonic pad but it gives me an error message that a mainsail.cfg file is missing. I'm lost
the same
hey ! I have always seen this pegboard thing on your wall, where do you think i could find the files for it ?
Stay tuned for this weeks video… ;)
@@thenextlayer will you bé talking about it ?
I really don't know of the best value. Guess it depends on the job. If you are running a print farm or just casually printjng your own stuff.
I just got a v400 for 715€ new and it's an upgrade to the QQS-pro I had before.
There are arguments for the Bamboo Lab printers but I am waiting if they keep innovating and how their printers stand the test of time. I rather have a printer with standard parts or at least wider support base and many resellers.
I guess there will always be something better coming though I also have the feel it's more about selling the same and less optimization than in the beginning of 3D printing.
Pretty satisfied with the v400 at the moment.... naturally It would be cooler if it was cheaper...like 500€ maybe with the speeder pad.
Also would love an input shaping sensor to ship with the machine.
For the next printer I would love the load cell leveling from the Prusa MK4 and
auto tuning for the belts or fast ball screws (like 1620 screws) would be cool.
Vanilla Klipper out of the box.
HOT Swap hotends!!!! Toolless!!!
Guess I have not answered the value question but just described my dream printer...
I honestly didn't know the creality sonic pad could run up to 4 machines. That's much more intriguing.... I have debated getting a cheap budget used laptop(around$100- $150) to run klipper on a couple machines, but this is so much cleaner and easier.
Same and same!!
I got myself a Sovol SV06PLUS and Klipper... Now for fun bit. Can I have that Pad?
Can you make a more in depth video as to setting up the printer
Will the klipper firmware provided work for the SV06 Plus?
Not sure I’m afraid.
This Sovol machine is such an interesting new budget option, besides lacking a filament sensor and an easily cleanable extruder, great beginner's bedslinger.
And both the above issues apply to the Prusa MINI I opted for too, but while I haven't used it yet I did get it's filament sensor upgrade and assume this machine can be upgraded too.
What would be interesting is seeing how the motion system holds up, I've heard rumours of some Sovol machines having poor quality bearings and got a Prusa myself for the certainty that those are of good quality.
Though as those parts are easily replacable, even if that does become an issue, replacing it down the line if needed at all still saves on the upfront cost, which helps with getting more in this hobby.
The Sonic pad is also intriguing, it's some Linux tablet with seemingly well-made software powering it.
In a way it reminds me of my Steam Deck, which is a similarly great device leveraging the adaptability of Linux well.
While I'd personally use old laptops I have lying around if I ever do switch to Klipper, this is way harder to get working though cheaper if you know your way around Linux systems.
Still a good product that deserves it's success, if I ever get my hands on one, will definitely try to run Crysis or at least Doom on it :P
I'd definitely be interested in a follow-up where you attempt to upgrade the Prusa.
I've helped someone upgrade their CTC Bizer, after getting going with Marlin thanks to my help they managed to get Klipper working... on the MightyBoard RevE clone board it came with.
Would be interesting to see if you can get it going on the original Buddy board, which is still less of a potato than that, though either might still hit the 8-bit speed wall anyway.
1:48, SV06 is 220 x 220 x 250 mm or 12,100 cubic cm and yes the Prusa MK3s build volume smaller at 250 x 210 x 210 mm or 11,025 cubic cm but the Prusa is 30mm wider but 40mm shorter.
Oops, I got it wrong with the 235! Crud. Thanks for pointing it out. Still a larger build volume though if you take height into consideration
@@thenextlayer I have the SV06 then I have access to a MKs which I have recently used once for that extra width so the SV06 plus is tempting. SV06 non plus is 12.1 liter volume and MKs is 11 litters.
I've been watching you for quite some time and only now I've learned that you're from Israel :) Greetings from Netanya. Great videos. Very informative. I'm waiting for my pre-ordered P1P while still in the rabbit-hole of tinkering and upgrading my Ender3 v2.
Nice you’ll love it. Check out our discord I have a local channel there jle.vi/TNL-discord
@@thenextlayer I'm already there
Does the sonic pad work on prusa as well?
They claim it works on Mini. I haven’t tested
Keep in mind that you are limited to creality's version of klipper, soooo if they decide that they don't want to support sonic pad u are screwed and left with outdated software
Serious quandary. Do I get this or the new SV07??? Ahhhh. Help please !
Well, I got an Ender 3 used for 100€, added an Phaetus Dragonfly 50€, RaspberryPi 3B 40€, SKR E3 Mini V2 30€, BeltedZ 45€ and a Klicky Probe 2€. So in total ~270€. Then I installed klipper and printing with 200/150/100mm/s (infill/inner perimeter/outer perimeter) with 4k acceleration, with my quality slow settings :)
Impressive, and yeah, that probably wins (though I can't get a raspberry pi for those prices here), but a lot more work for beginners who don't know much about.
@@thenextlayer Remove the Pi, add the sonic pad for 160€ divide it by 4 (since you can add 4 of them to one pad) and you are still at 270€ for 1 Ender 3. But if you just use it for one printer you are at 390€ for one Ender 3. Still worth i would say.
upgrade the sovol 6 plus and show us how to run both of the sovols on the pad
Wish I had the time/space to get the plus model... Adulting is getting too much in the way lol went with the ankermake early bird, which I'm liking, but just not enough time to do enough with it
I hear you, man. I wanted to check out the SV06 Plus, but I just dont' have the room... :(
great video man, i am running an ender 3 v2 maxed out printing before quality really dips at around 275mm/s at 10k accel amazing however compared that to my voron 0.1 running at 600mm/s with 70k accel, the ender feel like printing in slow mode even tho it still so much faster than stock 50mm/s
What hotend do you run on V0.1?
@@leonartou got 3 hotend i swap between, a dragon hf but with a nf crazy volcano block, rapido uhf and LSD (AKA Goliath) all running with cht volcano nozzles
@@8bits955 so 600mm/s on goliath and rapido?
@@leonartou yeah? goliath easy haven't evne used like 25% of it max output yet, check out simon video he managed 2000mm/s on the goliath. Rapido UHF same was my modiffied dragon hf was on it edge right below it limit, if i do 650 it will start to under extruding at the same temp but with a bit more temp is printerable at 650 just not enough cooling for now. Also keep in mind i am using a cht volcano nozzle too.
@@8bits955 Thats very nice
Thanks for reply
Goliaths performance is super impressive. Quite sad its impossible to buy now.
I regret not picking the SV06 Plus up on presale.
does it support resume?
Worked for me even easier than it was done in this video. The wrong printer.cfg is linked, for the SV06+ model anyhow. And yes, it did nearly triple the speed that I had been printing PETG at earlier. And I imagine that I can get even better performance for ASA and ABS, and PLA... .. Well it looks like the Enders and even Prusas have gone the way of the dinos in what current tech can offer at a far better price.
With Bambu Labs offering a better product at a similar price point to the Mk3S+ and Sovol and Creality (among others) offering comparable products at lower price points, it's an open question to see how long Prusa can last as a 3D printer manufacturer. Sure, they have the SL1 and their industrial printing business unit, and Printables and PrusaSlicer seem to be here to stay for the long run, but their bread and butter has been "hobbyists with cash to burn on premium hardware." Without a Prusa i4 or the long-delayed Prusa XL that can catch up to what the rest of the industry is selling, it's going to be harder and harder for them to keep their market share.
Agreed. We shall see.
Flsun q5 (199$) + flsun speeder pad (149$), might be a contender speed wise. Smaller build volume though. 🤷🏼♂️
Ooooh, good point. I hadn't even CONSIDERED Delta. Build volume, though, is a challenge there
The Next Layer, I need help! I tried to follow this tutorial but I can't get it work. Would you please help me flash the printer with the original firmware. I tried to do it but it doesn't seem to take. I hope I haven't bricked my printer, I just bought. PLEASE! I beg you. Thanks!
With all the week long headache… if you value your time you easily can jump from the featured setup up to the P1P out of the box… not knocking the idea, but it has to be what you want to do, modifying and tinkering.
Sonic pad cost 3 times mi mk pi V1.0 kit with the touchscreen and klipper pre-configured. All I have to do is print a box and presto I got a Pad for a third of the price. Oh BTW the processor in the Sovol sv06 is 32 bit not 8 as you said.
Other that that the sv06 will be my next buy
Wow. Nice. Links!?
Damn, If I only knew, I would wait half a year and bought a Sovol. Unfortunately I got into 3d printing a bit to soon and I'm kinda stuck with my Ender. Don't get me wrong, still amazing 3d printer, but I wish I had a Sovol now. :P Won't be probably easy to sell my modded Ender, so I'm stuck with it.
We all go through it, I sold my Geeetech for almost nothing...
The Sovol is great! But also, stay in the hobby, and maybe, your next printer, you try CoreXY