Did Wyatt Earp Kill Curly Bill?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- For more than a century, writers have identified the site of Wyatt’s shoot-out with the cowboys as having taken place at Arizona’s Iron Springs. Later writers thought that modern maps had changed the moniker to Mescal Springs, which is actually another spring near Iron. Neither site matches Wyatt’s description of the fight.
Bob Boze Bell is known as America's Western Storyteller. He is an artist, author, writer and serves as executive editor of True West magazine. Bell is a popular, sought-after figure in television documentaries about the Old West, appearing as an expert in dozens of Wild West history shows. Bell won an Emmy Award as Executive Producer of the PBS special, Outrageous Arizona, a zany look at the state's centennial, that he also wrote and helped direct. As an author, Bell has brought to life Billy the Kid, Geronimo, Doc Holliday, Wyatt Earp and Wild Bill Hickok in his best-selling Illustrated Life and Times series. His books Classic Gunfights I, II and III are must-reads about the most important Old West gunfights. Bell’s Bad Men is now in its fourth printing, while his illustrated autobiography, The 66 Kid: Raised on the Mother Road, gives personal insight into the passions that have driven him on his lifelong quest to interpret the history of the American West for audiences around the world.
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Your narrative, including all the failed attempts but finally nailing down the spot in Cottonwood Springs; makes me feel as if I'd dragged my old bones along with you. Well done, amigo. well done indeed.
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I have been reading about the wild west and Wyatt Earp's tale for awhile. Thanks for this video. My great-grandmother was Texas Jack Vermillion's cousin. I only found that out about ten years ago. It's such an important time in our history!
Great story. The legend of the Earp's gunfight in Tombstone and Wyatt's vendetta has always fascinated me. It's amazing that 140 years later we can still discover new information about those events.
Me too. Can't get enough of it
My dad got me interested in reading True West Magazine. He owned grocery stores from January 1950 on until he retired in the 80’s, and all of the stores had magazine and news stands. I can remember going to see relatives in Tucson, Patagonia and Tombstone in the early 50’s through the my last visit in 2016. But my internet in the stories began when I was about 5 or 6. He would read stories that were published in True West and I would fantasize about being there at the different sights we had visited. By the time I was 7 or 8, I was seeking out the magazine when it was distributed to one of our stores. Now that I’m older, much older, I still enjoy the articles and stories along with Bob’s wonderful artwork. I’ve worn boots and a cowboy hat since I could walk, and started riding horses when I was 2. You see, in addition to my dad owning grocery stores and convenience stores, he was a rancher and we raised cattle to butcher and sell in our meat markets. In 2021 my last Quarter Horse, Cash died at 31 and 1/4 years old. And as I said, I’m getting old myself so now I just sit back and enjoy watching your videos and look forward to seeing each new publication of True West. Thanks for a lifetime of enjoyment, I’ve always felt I was born in the wrong century. God Bless!
Been following you since 1977. I moved back to Ohio in '98. But still look for your stories all the time. Thank you.
Fantastic story! To know that guys like you and other top tier old west historians have done the leg work, and verified these priceless pieces of history with your own eyes is very satisfying for those of us who can’t be there ourselves. Thankyou!
Your story of finding Cottonwood Springs was so interesting! I’m so glad your friend could find the exact location!
You really bring these stories to life! I’m glad that Wyatt Earp’s account of the gunfight and the true location matched!
The detail of the gunshot holes in his coat, hat, boot and saddle horn were amazing! Thanks so much for your interest in the Old West! Your pregnant wife was so patient and a good sport on the trail to Iron Springs.
I've heard that colonel George Washington rode in front of his troops under fire, to encourage them in the fight. His coat was reported full of bullet holes. It was said he was never even wounded during his lifetime. 😎👍
It must be fun being you Bob!
Also about 20 years ago I had the honor of dropping in on Marshall Trimble totally unannounced and on the spur (no pun intended) of the moment.
He was in his office at Scottsdale Community College (if my memory serves correctly)
I couldn’t have been treated with more warmth and kindness by he and his secretary! He spent over an hour with me telling stories and sharing his vast knowledge of the Earps etc.
I finally had to leave because of other engagements but I had the distinct feeling that Marshall would’ve stayed there for as much time as I wanted. His Western library is amazing as well.
He’s one of the only people I’ve ever met who actually has a copy of Timothy Fattig’s book “Wyatt’s Earp” which I’ve looked for for ever since!
What a true gentleman!
That last message was a fail. What I was trying to convey is that I have followed you for quite some time, and now you have succeeded in archiving all of the True West magazines (which had to be an enormous task), and I appreciate all that you have done with western history. So, I subscribed for both the digital and hard copy of the magazine. I would recommend that anyone who hasn't subscribed should do so. The work that you have done, as well as that you have inspired, is priceless. Thank you for all of that!
That's good detective work
The important thing is that Earp's physical description of the place matches exactly. After 46 years it's easy to mix terrain names up. And Stuart Lake wrote the book. He may have gotten that Spring"s name detail from someone else when he was final editing. When is the archeology dig with metal detectors?
A very good question
Fantastic demonstration of never giving up especially when the details are that important to get it straight for history's sake.Great story.
Great story Bob. I love western history, so please keep them coming.
Thanks for your great work Bob! You know, I get the feeling, Wyatt Earp was never satisfied in one area too long unless he was making decent money. He seemed to be a wanderer. I get the feeling, he couldn’t wait to get outta Tombstone, AZ. Just from all the ordeals he went through and loosing his brother there, made Wyatt long for greener pastures. Can you imagine, as he aged, just looking at his older photos, I get the feeling, when I look in his eyes, I see a lot of pain and regrets in his past life. Yes, he was stoic in nature and didn’t say much, but he was a human being. Many of nights, I’d imagine he cried thinking about his brother and his past life, the hardships. I see sadness through his eyes of a hard-lived life with sadness. He missed his friend Doc Holiday immensely and longed for the times when he shared a friendship he never really could pen to paper. Doc Holiday was an outcast due to his consumption. But, Doc knew Wyatt truly respected him because Wyatt was a bit of a loner and outcast in his younger days. Something tells me, if you embellished or told tall-tales, you know, BS, Wyatt wouldn’t care for that type of person. If you were honest and easy-going, he would take to you.
My family lived in Tombstone, so I really enjoy hearing stories about Cochise County. Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge.
I love these stories - as a geologist who once wandered the West in search of oil and even uranium, I found so many old cabins and read so many tales that seemed far fetched - I marveled at what their story was. And it was only going to Lincoln, White Sands, Three Rivers, and all those place that you understood Garrett, The Kid, Oliver Lee, and all those stories to be fascinating even when you were sure both sides telling a different story were doing so from a different perspective. And it was that way where ever I went - E Utah, Wyoming, SW Colorado, and places nearer my home in Oklahoma... good stuff.
I love the story. It brings light the true facts, proving the authenticity of the story. Thank you Bob! We can always count on you to get provable facts.
The truth of history is what's most important. Thanks, my hat's off to all of you.
Love these videos. As a westerner who grew up on all these stories you really do them justice and bring them to life. Would love to see photo's of where the shootout was!
Your Awesome! I could listen to you forever. I'm glad I found you on You Tube. I have seen you on the History Channel before.
Outstanding! This is exactly why I'm so into history. What was once considered a "Tall Tail" has at long last become "Truth Told".
I’m a pretty big history buff. I really enjoy bob’s videos so much. It would be so cool to sit down with him and just talk about the Wild West history. Thanks bob for all your videos, much appreciated.
Snyde Don. I'm Australian, and I love all the old west history. Can't get enough of it and I know exactly what Bob means when he says how awesome it is to actually stand on the very spot that various famous events took place. I would love to be able to do that. Visit the Alamo, Custer's last stand, The Texas Rangers headquarters, and so many other places. I had planned on visiting my Son (also Australian),in Dallas, and the last stand was on my to do list, but the Covid stuffed up those plans.
@@steiny3353 hopefully you get to plan the trip again.
@@snydedon9636 .One can only hope, mate.
I'm so into the wild west stories. Thank You for bringing us stories of the past.
good one. My Uncle was one of the owners that owned the Diamond Springs Hotel and Bar, historical site in Diamond between Hangtown and El Dorado in Calif. Black Bart ran in these areas
back in the day and My Grandfather was the parade gereral in charge of the festivities for Placerville western days. I spent my summer and winter school vacations up there. I'm 83 now, was 9 back then.
Thanks James, hope you are doing well.....
Thank you, Bob! It’s good that Wyatt Earp’s story was verified, especially by the people you mentioned. It helps a lot when you describe and show the landscape where historical events occurred. Please continue to post this kind of content.
If you like the landscape then check out the InRangeTV video titled "How Wyatt Earp killed Curly Bill Brocious". They go to the location and do a re-enactment.
"He said, she said, they said." Nobody knows.
Loved all this information and great historical content. Appreciate all that you do Bob!!👏👏👏
Mr. Bell...I really like your videos but this is one of my favorites. A fantastic story .
Thanks a ton, Bob! Love these biographical videos! We are so lucky to have you around. By the way, I grew up (and still live) in your home town.
Very good! I really liked your narrative. It sheds much light on this and really brings it to life; not just s story, but real life events!!
Job well done.Love when old tales turn out to be true. To bad so many old events are lost and not recorded.But sometimes they just pop up and give us little taste of old west real history. Thank you.
I am a huge American West fan so thank you for your work documenting such an iconic part of our history.
Exalent work. Being an amateur historian of the old west. This really help bring clarity to the story.
Kevin Costner’s Wyatt Earp movie is by far one of my favorite movies. They play it all the time on one of the One of the cable movie Channels . No commercials... I think I’ve watched it, no kidding, no less than 14 times in the last 3 months.... no matter how far into the movie it is when it’s on.
Always enjoy Bob’s videos 🤠
Well done, thank you, I too enjoy visiting the old west sites, last fall I had the opportunity to visit fort Bridger. My wife, myself and the worker, were the only people there. Those two were inside, I just sat there near the old stretch rack, you could feel the history, and imagine what it was like. What was amazing to me was the small diameter of the fort wall "logs" were 2.5 inches 3 maybe. Thank you for your excellent incites.
Such a great story. I am a big fan of the Earp’s. Thank you so much.
I appreciate your interest and diligence ferreting out the facts. Years ago I bought a True West Magazine to give to some of my friends and family in Scotland. The front cover had a modern art version of I believe Billy the Kid. I flopped open to a random page and saw the name Jeanette Allen marrying Jack Langrishe in Deadwood , SD. She is either an older sister or Aunt to my Great Grandmother. Her Great Grandfather is Ethan Allen. I started to ask my Mom about her family on the Yankee side because of the article. Some I had already heard from her Mom back in the1960's. I'm now in my late 60's so I can say as a matter of fact that "Old History" is closer than we think.
I think who killed Johnny Ringo (for certain) is a much bigger mystery than who killed Curly Bill Brocious.
Many thanks Bob for another excellent presentation. Gee Whiz; I wish I could also walk where those chaps walked. I strongly believe that you cannot get an appreciation of history unless you walk the same paths. In fact; I am a British History freak and tragic. About 20 years ago; I returned home to the UK which I left as a child, to get the feel of all the various battle grounds going back to Roman times. I started out on a three week trip and ended up staying over 12 months; much to my wife's annoyance. Even in that 12 months; I hardly scratched the history surface, so I understand what you are saying when you said you are a strong believer in walking over the same steps as the characters of the past.
It was great to hear how the truth was discovered as far as location. I was thinking at first that in 140 years plus that weather can change a lot of things, floods, snow and trees grow and die, wildfires. You never know about these things that can change a landscape but it looks like you pegged it! Good job and I’ll be signing up for your service soon!
Just found out the other day that I carry Wyatt Earp dna. My Grandfather, father and oldest boy are named Virgil. My youngest son hails by Morgan after my other Grandfather Morgan. Myself and my father were military and civilian LEOs. I was also county and municipal (Texas). Being originally from New Mexico but not up to snuff on the history of the Earps I of course hit Google and TH-cam checking out information that was outside of Hollywood. I thank you for your posts on here. They are extremely informative.
That was Great! I had heard about Wyatt having his gun belt down around his knees before, Amazing!
it's one thing reading history, when you see where history was made, puts it into a whole new realm.
What a fantastic narrative and an even more amazing discovery. Congratulations are definitely in order! Thanks for sharing this with us.
Thanks for your efforts to clarify historical details. I’m a retired psychology professor who is now interested in American frontier history. Trying to learn as much as I can about the Wyatt Earp story. I enjoy your videos.
This guy tells the story awesome. Thanks bob boze bell
Cool story all the way through. Greatly appreciate the history. I love the old west.
Thank you, so great to confirm and yet correct our history. You do fantastic work. so very important and enjoyable. Please keep up the good work.
Fantastic story telling .. I could listen and feel the passion in telling it
I would love more stories from you. I love listening to you tell them.
Excellent story. This era is so full of fascinating stories.
This is truly fascinating! I would have loved to have seen more pictures of what you saw at the site.
Really enjoyed the vid. Big fan for years. Keep up the good work.
I was stationed at Ft Huachuca for 2 years in the late 1960's...always fascinated by the Earps. I've spent most of of my life reading about all the characters and politics of Arizona and the Mexican border nearby.
Great presentation and narration by a very relatable guy. Thk you.
I've always been interested in the history myths. Thank you for clarifying this true story. So much more to these events, and though some may seem far-fetched, remember the times they lived in and some may have had lady luck on their side..As we age we all got a few stories that if told today our listeners may not believe, but that does not make them untrue.
My uncle used to live at Philomont, VA. I remember a general store at a crossroads adjacent to flat fields . Thirty years later I drove through there and there were big trees everywhere, not a field in sight. The general store was there but I had absolutely no idea that I was in the right place.
Huh? What does this have to do with anything?
Great stories (and facts) so well told sir. Thanks for this, very interesting accounts.
Thanks for the story. It’s great some people can take the time to investigate old stores to verify old records.
I just watched the video last night of "The Vendetta Ride" trail ride. They were discussing the find of the line cabin and your involvement. I too hope one day to visit these amazing places!
F..in' A!! I too love to walk through history. I'm originally from Jacksonville Beach and visited St Augustine... never get enough. Then moved to Sierra Vista and discovered the "Old West!" Already addicted to history Cochise County just increased my desire for more. Thanks to actually Tombstone natives, I've learned much and I too prefer truth to fiction even if it's not flattering. That's why history is greatly fascinating!! Again, I love too put events into a setting perspective to better understand and I found this to be true here in Cochise County. I too have found artifacts from the prehistoric to mining era just by looking in and around my sister's home! Note: Cochise County was actually "Cachise," Apache Chief, but the AZ state recorder thought Cochise is better than Cachise, so it is now. Love the True West Mag!
Gosh, I have always wanted to go to the Rosebud and the Little Bighorn. and actually spend time looking. And I must say it would be Great to fo to Iron Springs as well as other sites where these Legends walked. You Sir are a Fortunate man. Thanks for Sharing.
Great info loved it! I really enjoy the info you produce, thanks.
Love this content. Subscribed, keep em coming. Thanks for your hard research.
Good job. Easy to listen to. Always good to get "important to me" history straight!! Thanks
Loved your narrative. I love Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday. Would love to hear more from you
When i was in high-school during the early 70s Bob was a DJ at KDKB 93.3 in Phx...
Thankyou so much for the proof! Because I named my son Wyatt. After Wyatt Earp, the movies and the controversy over this and other subjects has always had me confused.
Great story to confirm history. Thank you for sharing.
Fascinating information! Great detective work and perseverance. Thanks for sharing this story, Bob. It is a real pleasure to hear.
Interesting chat. It would have also been interesting to see a present day photo of the site contrasted to Earp's drawing that you included. Looking at the comments I see others had the same suggestion.
Thanks for another great video. You are superb at telling these stories.
Love watching/listening to this stuff.
Thanks for info Bob Bell! Appreciate you! Merry Christmas too!
I love it when a plan comes together! Great story with a greater ending, thanks for your dedication in searching for the truth.
Stuart Lake: "Iron Springs sounds cooler, Wyatt, let's go with that."
love these video so informative and interesting i would love to visit these areas one day
Still to many questions.. But that tighten upd a few questions. Great job. Thank you.
Love the vids Mr. Bell wish you would or could do hour long presentations for us!!!!!!
Amazing story and you tell it masterfully, Bob!
This was great!! It always feels great when a story or mystery is solved. Keepum coming!!!
Wyatt Earp not a liar afterall! Thank you for giving this story to me. you are appreciated! Bo from OKC,OK
One of my best moments in history is The Battle of Little Big Horn even though I didn't get a tour I got a autograph book from Robert Nightingale; it's a amazing book.
Thanks for all your efforts to revive the old west. Was Curly Bill buried where he fell?
Very well done , enjoy the old west history.
Thank you for old west story, Bob. I've got a question for the Wyoming frontier lovers, was Tom Horn guilty of the murder of Willie Nickell near Iron Mountain? Second, Frank Hamer was ambushed at a gas station in Sweetwater, TX in 1916, due to Gladys Johnson, Frank's wife, and she was in the car, all during one of the major fights of the Johnson-Sims feud. How did this all begin, and how did it conclude?
I to throughly enjoy physically being where history was made. I have been to Gettysburg, Fort Sumter, Little Bighorn, Deadwood, Lead Colorado, Fort Griffin Texas, Dallas Book depositery, Pearl harbor and others. They are all enlightening.
Wyatt Earp lived a charmed life, in that he was not killed nor was ever wounded.
When I visited Custer Battlefield I got the strangest feeling. Same feeling I got a t Gettysburg. Very strange.
As always, thank you for these trips into the old west. Always entertaining and informative.
Brilliant research into the history of these events and glad to hear the correct location was verified .
Thank you.
I like it. I'm always checking for reality vs fiction in historical movies. Even in fictional movies, I see people firing Desert Eagle semi-autos like BB guns, or throwing 8 bars a gold into a bag and throwing on their back. I'm thinking "Come on, no one can fire a Desert Eagle without kick or lift hundreds of pounds of gold and running off with it." One of my friend's tells me I ruin the movies by noticing and commenting, but it ruins the realism for me.
I LOVE this stuff!!!! I'm going to tell you a story you just might.like. I work with a young woke, gay girl who has maybe 3 drops of Native American blood. She is SUCH a victim and of course knows everything about Native Americans.(End of the Trail sums it up) I was talking to another woman in the office about all the things Geronimo did; teach school, farming, celebrity, selling his autograph and the buttons off his clothes and eventually dying a wealthy. Miss Woke butted in, red in the face and IN MY FACE she said, "I don't know what your source is but I DO KNOW Geronimo would NEVER have ridden in Roosevelt's parade!! And she swept out of the office, all her sails
flying.So I logged onto her computer and gave her a new wallpaper. In large letters it says across the top Smithsonian Institute. You know the picture of course. And I put a little post it note that said Geronimo, with a little arrow pointing at his head. I haven't seen this unpleasant girl since, probably best for both of us.
Love True West Magazine, always interesting.
Awesome detecting job, now I would like to metal detect the area for a museum display of any spent rounds and brass.
Wow, now that was really neat hearing about this. Good work!
Lovely story! Wish I had the money to go to US and visit all these places. Thanks for sharing this burnt egg story
Thank you for sharing. Love this channel!
I really like these stories about Earp!
Thank you great job in your research, I like it. 😊 Glad you found it where that shootout took place.
Love all your videos Bob. Please keep em coming