Wyatt Earp and the Cowboy War: What Did They Get Right?
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- Wyatt Earp and the Cowboy War: What Did They Get Right? What Did They Leave Out? And Why is My Name On It?
Bob Boze Bell is known as America's Western Storyteller. He is an artist, author, writer and serves as executive editor of True West magazine. Bell is a popular, sought-after figure in television documentaries about the Old West, appearing as an expert in dozens of Wild West history shows. Bell won an Emmy Award as Executive Producer of the PBS special, Outrageous Arizona, a zany look at the state's centennial, that he also wrote and helped direct. As an author, Bell has brought to life Billy the Kid, Geronimo, Doc Holliday, Wyatt Earp and Wild Bill Hickok in his best-selling Illustrated Life and Times series. His books Classic Gunfights I, II and III are must-reads about the most important Old West gunfights. Bell’s Bad Men is now in its fourth printing, while his illustrated autobiography, The 66 Kid: Raised on the Mother Road, gives personal insight into the passions that have driven him on his lifelong quest to interpret the history of the American West for audiences around the world.
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Bob, NOBODY explains the old west in the detail like you do. Not to take away from the friends you mentioned, but YOU have it on a platform we can all appreciate. Thanks for that.
You bring back my childhood memories. I love historical accuracy!
I’m right beside you on authenticity. It grinds my gears when they don’t do their homework. It’s the little things… paying attention to detail of the historical period is so essential to the time frame you are trying to re-create.
UA 1970-1971 ‘Bare down’
This is a 👍👍 video!
Bob, you are the true west maniac numero uno. Love your insight, your knowledge, and your engaging style. Thanks!
I live in the Scottish Borders, and love fact and fiction on the old west,you help connect me to that time .
Thanks Bob ! Awesome.
BBB... Thanks for the explanation.
I could see the BS while watching and was shocked to see your name in the credits. I get it now and wished you were included in the commentary during the show.
Looking forward to the upcoming issue re: Earp & Hollywood.
DAS (fellow True West Maniac)
Bob, I remember that show, "Appointment with Destiny." It was pretty good.
The best Earp documentary ever!
Publish more content Bob. Youre one of the last true story tellers of the old west
Great to see you back on youtube Bob
So true when you see stuff that out and out wrong and when you see it it draws your eye every time. Thanks for doing this keep doing your chats on here
I've watched the trailer 3 or 4 times trying to get myself to watch the show but I can't. I really WANTED to watch it, but I cannot.
I’ve waited so long for this upload!
Bob big fan of the Magazine and your work. It was the choice of firearms in the show that was driving me nuts. A couple of calls, hell a trip to bill's trading post and they could have had the proper, er, props.
Great episode!
Louis L'Amour had a large collection of Old West documents, newspapers, and diaries. What happen to all his researches?
Hi Bob watched that documentary. And yes that hat of Ike's bother me. And the Arizona rangers I thought were founded in 1901.
I saw the show. It was entertaining, but some of it was a little hard to swallow.
Great Job outstanding i enjoyed watching your channel Tombstone is one of my favorite movies, i could watched over and over again it doesn’t get old i wish they re make it again! I think that the guy that played Waytt Earp should play Jhonny Ringo in the re make
Great stuff Mr. B 👍👍
I'm a Yuma boy
Wild west history is in my DNA
i remember true west magazine
BBB, I'm with you 100%. I'm a stickler for historical fact and do a lot of eye rolling at some of the "facts" I see in print and on the big screen. These modern 'B' Westerns that come out and only make it to some obscure cable channel having every cowboy wearing jangly spurs and sporting a duster is unwatchable to me.
Woo! New BBB!
BBB? FJB 👍
This was easier than cutting travelers fan belts
Loren Greene, the voice of doom on radio in Canada during WW2.
Bob, I'm glad you brought this up. As I have read some many books including yours on Wyatt Earp and his time in tombstone, this version really is told inaccurate. The attire is slightly off, Morgan and Virgil are missing their hats. The ok corral gunfight scene...sooo inaccurate. But the tombstone Vendetta scene that's what is based off is the historical record, including your historical work. You could have done it better. 🎩
This netflix needs adjustment. This is not fake it's history that happened and this version of Wyatt Earp and the Cowboy war which should be the Tombstone Vendetta needs serious fixing.
Lol, I almost didn't make it past the 1st episode because of the music they chose, however I was really bored that day and kept watching. The hat was one of the 1st things I noticed. Great video thanks and stuff.
Glad you brought up Maddie Blaylock
I'm like you, I appreciate historical accuracy
Bob, I understand you are a writer as well as the aforementioned (in your video) authors, and I am surprised no one has mentioned Mary Doria Russell and her books "Doc" and "Epitaph." They were an historical fiction novel, however the friendships and politics in Tombstone at the time were pretty historically accurate in her books. I remember her stating on her website that she had a whole, long shelf of research material she gathered to write the two books. After reading her two books, I better understood the politics in Tombstone driving the opposing forces during the early 1880s'.
On a related note, are you going to critique Kevin Costner's new series "Horizon!" I like you have issues with anachronisms, for example after Hayes Ellison's (Kevin Costner) first gunfight, he is shown ejecting spent cartridges from his revolver. Considering if I am not mistaken, it was mentioned that the American Civil War was still being fought back east. If that be the case, there were not yet any cartridge revolvers in common use. The Richards Mason conversion was still several years away. Most people out west were still using percussion handguns. The rifles they had were mostly correct. The sharps rifle was in use however during the civil war period, they were breech loaders utilizing paper cartridges (i.e. Berdan's Sharpshooters). Two exceptions were the Volcanic Arms Co. Henry Rifle using a 41 cal. rimfire cartridge, and the Spencer Carbine, both of which were used mainly by the Union Army.
I really enjoy your channel and commentary.
Hi Bob ,Great video ! I'll probably never see this new movie ,because I'm not going to support Netflix. However maybe you should make a movie about the Earps and Toomstone. You could get other historian friends to help. Thanks Bob. 😊
I haven't seen the show, but that Clanton hat is a stench in the nostrils of the righteous. It would look just fine in "Yellowstone", though. I was fortunate to meet Ben Johnson once, and I will always kick myself for not asking him whether he had a "hat approval" clause in his contracts. They weren't always period correct (okay, maybe never, because of Hollywood), but Ben never had a bad hat.
I remember that "Appointment With Destiny" show, especially Doc trying to psych the cameraman out. I only saw it once, but now I'm hunting it up for a rewatch.
I'm right there with you on details. I noticed the hat right away. The tack is all wrong, too.
I cowboyed for over 40 years and when I see crap like that it ruins the entire show for me.
Watched it not long ago. I am curious as to it's accuracy.
Well as inaccurate as Tombstone was. I'm sure its on par with that movies.
Thanks for the rundown. I enjoyed the series and learned a lot. This is a dumb question I guess, but what kind of hat was the Johnny Megan character wearing?
Way off. Sheriff Behan.
I think there's a photo in the book Frontier Marshall that shows Wyatt Earp and Bat Masterson at a faro table. Wyatt is dealing and Bat is sitting to his right in the referee chair. Probably at his saloon in Tombstone. It's in my first edition copy. Have you seen it ? The caption mentions nothing about it being them but I swear it looks just like them. The hat Wyatt is wearing is the same type hat he's seen wearing in other photos. Check it out in case you haven't yet done so.
VERY VERY VERY VERY GOOD VIDEO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DID I SAY VERY ?
Besides, the hats. Smaller complaint was Wyatt Earp toting a Buntline Special which is disputed as ever having existed.
Does this show have anything to do with the ''Cowboy War in Kansas - Feb 1887''? Wichita County Museum has published a photo of the key players in that Cowboy War. The photo includes Luke Short, Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday, Bat Masterson, Bill Tilghman, Red Loomis, Jim Masterson, and Pat and Mike Sughrue. The Sughrue twins were my grandmothers uncles. They were lawmen. BTW, everyone in the photo had a hat.
Thank you sir, the first thing I told my son was Ike was never a mob boss...far from it
I agree Bob, i hate when they wear or do something thats not true. It really bugs me.
Sir we are of the same tribe. I grew up watching Bonanza and The Virginian and when I was a youngster I actually believed what Hollywood was selling. Now I am a purist. My life changed when I read a book by Time Live about the true Gunfighters. To start with the horses in the movies are way to well fed to be real. Same with the reference to the hats. I could go on and on but you already know everything I could bitch about. One of the closer movies was "Lonesome Dove" but it is also full of un-truths. Charles Goodnight was not the same man that Tommy Lee Jones played. I am from Texas so don't blow cowboy smoke up my ass. Thank you, sir, for standing on the truth. In my honest opinion Hollywood is nothing but lies.
Why wouldn’t you be one of the experts . Just saying
An honest. Account
The Wyatt Earp and the Cowboy War show was so far off historically, I had to turn it off. Sorry I missed the expert authors talking. Thanks, Bob for your analysis!
Your problem with the hats was much the same as my problem with the hats. I watched this also recently and right out of the chute there was an issue. I always have a problem watching many of the modern Western seeing wardrobe that is modern or hats that look like they were run over by a herd of cattle. Guns that don't match the time period. Saddles and tack that are modern and the list goes on. Having said that I think the show was pretty good putting the action in context with the National and local politics. Human nature hasn't changed much since then just clothing, weapons and transportation.
Well done, Mr BBB. The hat was an enormous mistake!
Those David L Wolper shows were good, too bad they didnt have better camers back in the day. Film looks so bad now
One of my biggest complaints about Hollywood “Historical” accuracy concerns clothing and textiles. Most “historical dramas” fail miserably in accuracy. Case in point the History Channel’s “Vikings”. Hundreds of bad “history” facts abound in that series. Wyatt Earp is the ultimate Western Personality bar none but not necessarily as it is portrayed in the Netflix Docudrama. Regardless of the inaccuracies I enjoyed 90% of the production. Get the hat crap fixed and you will take a good step in at least fixing one bad mistake in this production.
Bingo Bob! Ike could never live up to his father's stature so just shot off his mouth and was a braggart. A back shooter and assassin from the shadows he got his brother, and two friends killed. In other words, read the talking head books and skip this fairytale.
The hats were why I stopped watching after about a minute. I might have to try again based on your review.
really rather surprisingly dull and disappointing show.