What home gym or health topic should I review next??? Here are the bikes if you want to check them out! Schwinn IC4: amzn.to/2V66NN1 Sunny SF-B1805: amzn.to/371ypWf
@LearnwithTravis how big of a difference in resistance at the high end is the sunny to your peloton would you say? I like the bells and whistles of the IC4 but i just returned an echelon connect sport (walmart only) bike due to the high end being low.
@@robmertzig4911 The Sunny has solid top end resistance, but the Peloton still had a good amount more. For my Sunny, the top resistance provided a hard spin but I could ride through it. Peloton at max is very difficult. Hope that helps.
Not sure of the specifics but each loses a little functionality from the others. Ic2 has smaller flywheel and neither mention a cadence sensor for peloton digital or a resistance display like the ic4. I only took a quick look though as I have not had my hands on these bikes.
We tackled assembling the bike as a family project. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxzg0clhbtRf2gGxPkVETFKJJKGqdsorQu The package is heavy, but I have 2 teen boys that were able to move it. The written instructions were great- we didn't need to watch the videos, but it was good knowing that the option was there if we needed it. After we were able to get it set up, the boys each rode 3 miles and I rode 8 and the bike stayed quiet. The display is easy to reset, and you can put it on whichever setting you are using (time, distance, calories, etc). I will say that my butt is a little sore from the seat, but that could be because I haven't rode in a while. While it is comfortable for me, it was not comfortable with the seat position for my friend (could not move the seat back far enough and he slightly looked like a kid riding a tricycle that he had outgrown). He also said that the seat hurt his manly parts. We are going to look for a different seat that will be compatible with this bike for him.I did purchase the Wahoo Cadence sensor and strapped it to the crank of one of the pedals. This will sync with my Apple Watch, iPhone and will import data in to my Health app. Wahoo does have other sensors available other than cadence. I can also keep either my phone or my iPad on the display and they both feel pretty secure.
Nice review. Wish my daughter had bought the Sunny. She got an IC4, delivered on Mar. 29. I installed it for her and we test rode it for about 10 mins. It immediately developed a howling belt. We called Schwinn. They said there was no way to send a technician because of Covid. So, they offered to send us the parts and we could install a new belt. This repair requires some tools including their proprietary crank puller tool. They said the belt would arrive in 8 biz days. The tool needed to be back ordered (20 biz days). The belt arrived. When it was time to receive the tool, they sent an email saying it would now be 45 biz days. So, the bike purchased at end March would be usable earliest some time in June. After a couple phone calls, both of which necessitated 1 hour hold times, they were apologetic, but could offer no other solution. Schwinn were handed a windfall from Peloton and Covid. They couldn't execute. We shall see if the crank puller arrives, or we get yet another delay email. BTW, if you return the bike, they expect you to pay shipping, despite it not working to spec. How's that for a raw deal. My conclusion: Don't buy the IC4.
Thanks Shane and so sorry to hear you ran into this nightmare situation. That is too bad you have to pay for shipping. Most of this sounds like the result of Covid and the terrible situation it has put us in, but the bike being damaged on arrival and having to pay to ship back definitely sounds bad on Schwinn's part. I will say this is the first time I have heard of problems like this, so hopefully it is not common, but really sorry to hear what you have had to deal with. I hope it resolves itself soon and it is a distant memory before long!
Buy local /specialty fitness and you won't have these problems. I should clarify, even if you did have these problems, there would be people down the street ready to help you.
I bought an IC4 a couple of weeks ago. I love it so far using the Peloton app. Having the resistance level right in front of me is a game changer. I see no reason to upgrade to a Peloton bike.
Nice... I’ve had my IC4 since early December. 62 and really enjoy the simplicity of how everything has its place. I’m more of a leisure exerciser usually about 25 miles a day. My wife ( of 32 Great Years ) Is a Exceptional Triathlete and she Rides the IC4 Very Hard. I watch the 55 in TV (The Middle or Leave It to Beaver) She uses her Lap Top and Trains with Trainers on the internet. Over all we both enjoy the IC4 very much. Thanks so much for the information you have shared. I found it very informative.... Great Job. Thank You. :-)) PS it Looks Great in the Living Room.....
Haha! Good to hear and I bet it does look good there. I like how your example shows how it can be a great cardio option for completely different exercise styles! BTW - 32 years, that is amazing!
Lifetime runner here, on that journey to choose an indoor spin bike. Finding your channel is perfect timing 👍🏼Thanks for this invaluable comparison video. Take care!
Awesome! Glad to have you! Glad the videos are helping. Testing the Nordictrack S22i right now and have an Echelon on the way, so stay tuned for more reviews!
This was a very helpful review and comparison. I've been shopping around for months and finally narrowed it between these two. I ended up going with the IC4 because Schwinn offered a much better warranty. Schwinn offers 3 years electrical/mechanical, 1 for labor and 10 for frame) vs 6 months parts/components and 3 years for frame for Sunny. While it is something you might not ever need to utilize, it is nice to know that it's there.
Could not agree more and that is a big difference. I think both bikes are very well built and unlikely to have problems for most, but you can't ignore the difference there! Hope you love the bike!
I just bought the Sunny, directly from their website, for $460 total. I ordered it on Sunday and it was delivered on Saturday. I'm a beginner so I didn't want to spend a ton of money. I bought a cadence sensor for $40 on Amazon. I've always wanted the Schwinn, but the price difference was too great. Thank you for the awesome comparison review!
That's bizarre. I checked and it was sold out on Amazon (but still listed as like $480) but when I checked Sunny's website directly it had the B1805 listed as like $700! They also mentioned a delay in shipping due to COVID 19 but I'm glad to hear the shipping seems to be happening more quickly than their website indicates.
Hey Travis, thank you so much for such in-depth and unbiased reviews. I can't tell you how much time I spent between all your videos the past week, and you broke everything down in such a great way. I'd been considering a Peloton for moooooonths now but the financial hit was making it impossible to pull the trigger; I finally decided to go with the Sunny based on your reviews and I'm really excited to get started (nervous! But I'm hopeful that the app will keep me motivated). Just wanted to thank you so much for putting this all out here, it really helped so much. - Katia
Katia! Thank you so much for making my day! What a wonderful comment. I love hearing that my videos videos helped! I hope the Sunny turns out to be a perfect match for you. Enjoy the Peloton experience and don't get overwhelmed by it. Just remember to use it as a motivation tool and method to keep the excitement up. At the beginning you may feel like you can't keep up with them and that is completely okay. Stick to it and you will feel yourself getting stronger and when you notice it, you will love it! Enjoy it and thanks again!! -Travis
My Sunny B1913 arrived this week.I am an avid spinner and this bike is as good as any bike from my gym based spinning classes. Added the Wahoo cadence sensor and off I went on the Peloton app. Once you figure out the resistance levels its fantastic. I paid $600 for the bike and immediately after the price went up to $1000.Wish I had done this sooner.
Thanks so much for the review. I bought the IC4 right around Christmas time. Best Buy was running a special for $499 and free delivery! It is working great for me so far. I wear cycle shoes and clip in so that was a major advantage for me on the IC4.
Avid peloton digital user here with an ic4 👋🏾. Having objective resistance is sooo worth it to me. I started with a different sunny that was great but my type A personality had me constantly frustrated that i didn’t have an objective measure of my resistance.
Haha! Great example here about how different bikes are going to work better for different people and their styles\preferences. Glad you are loving the IC4!
This is exactly the kind of review I was looking for. If you have a long list of bikes that you want to buy, he helps you narrow down the search and choose what’s best for you and your budget.
I really like this fair comparison. With some reviews, you just have the impression they are one-sided, making their personal taste (like the saddle) objective criteria, and I wonder why they do that. Or posting things they "hate" about a specific bike. This here is more factual, feels independent and is really good - thanks so much for making the effort. It confirms my decision to go for IC4 vs. Sunny, but with less budget I would have gotten a really good bike with the Sunny too.
Really appreciate the comment Stefan! I work hard to structure my videos much like you described so I am glad they come across that way. I never want to steer someone in a certain direction but help them determine the best option for them.
Just wanted to give you a shout out! Thanks to your GREAT vids I am now unpacking a Sunny B1805 and am going to do the Peloton app set up. You did a fabulous job of articulating the technical differences and the "real world" differences. I thank you for your great job in doing these videos. You rule dude!!!
Thank you so much for the wonderful comment Sonya! Put a smile on my face! Glad they helped and hope you love the Sunny! It is a great spin bike, so you should be able to get some awesome exercise! Enjoy!!!
@@Learnwithtravis Travis you really are awesome and made a huge difference for me. I'm 65 years old ouch and used to be a jock but now am a couch potato. I unpacked my Sunny today and am amazed at the quality of build. I've done remodeling and am handy and was expecting the usual pain in the butt process. It was effortless to install! I am shocked! Nothing I've put together has come together so easily. Wow! No stripped screws, missing pieces, shitty instructions etc. So truly I send you a heartfelt thank you. She's a beauty, silent, smooth and a a joy to spin on. I look forward to getting back in shape soon especially since we are locked down. I also got my wahoo today and will also add it. Then I'll sign up for the Pelton subscription which should adequately kick my butt! Thanks again!
So glad to hear that everything went well and you are already enjoy it. Now go put that work in and hit those goals you want! You can do this!!! Thanks again Sonya!
While i decide which bike to get, I have purchased the wahoo cadence sensor (added to my old-school, 5 year old, folding upright) to tide me over, loaded the Peloton app with FREE 30 day trial, put on my apple watch and am able to see my HR, cadence, calories and duration on my ipad pro, sitting quaintly on my $120 Pro-form starter bike (don't tell anyone...) I am torn between the two you've just reviewed, and either the Joroto or MaxKare from Amazon, $399 + $ 340 respectively. MUST SAY IT WAS VERY COOL and rather unbelievable that I was able to get a quasi-peloton experience with this set-up, requiring only the $39 Wahoo purchase. Whichever upgraded indoor spin bike I choose, I'll probably continue with the $12.99/month paid version of Peloton digital app. Thanks for your review.
When talking about noise levels -- I really wish we could have heard a sample of each. Instead, the bike video was silent. Kinda bummed about that. Otherwise, solid and thorough review.
Thanks for all of the great info and honest reviews. I pulled the plug on a peloton bike today and was able to get upgraded to the essentials package free from reading one of your subscribers comments regarding first responder discount. I went back and forth on the peloton bike vs digital and ultimately chose the bike because I feel like I’ll have extra motivation with the leaderboard. I hate that I have to wait five weeks for delivery but can’t wait to start.
No problem at all and congratulations. So glad to hear you were able to get the discount! I know some one near me got it within the week of ordering. I think it all depends on locality and what sort of numbers they have, but hoping you can get it sooner than 5 weeks! Enjoy the ride! Glad you were able to make an informed decision!
Glad you were able to get that! I am really leaning towards an IC4 purchase and actually emailed Sales Support to see if they were offering any sort of similar discount or special since Peloton and a few other exercise companies are. We'll see what they say! Looks like it already comes with just about everything you need, but it would be nice to knock a few bucks off to put towards a new iPad which I'll probably need...
Thank you for providing complete and unbiased reviews of stationary bikes. I was headed down the Peloton path, but didn't want to be locked in to just the Peloton app. I have learned so much thanks to you. Soon I will be ready to make an informed purchase and feel confident I will get the right bike for me.
That is what I love to hear! I always hope my videos help people figure out the best option for them so this is fantastic! Congrats, thank you, and hope you love it!
My Sunny arrived today, I ordered it off Amazon for $503 took 9days to arrive, got floor mat, pedals, cadence sensor, and got 90 days free Peleton app. I'm happy, 1st ride this evening.
I noticed the price of the Sunny B1805 dropped last week on Amazon. So I went ahead and snagged one for $465. It is due to be delivered Friday. I was torn between the Sunny and the Echelon Connect Sport, but the sport has been out of stock for a while. Wouldn't you know the Echelon is back in stock now. I still saved a few coins going with the Sunny bike and I hope I'm happy with it. I'll still be curious to see what you think about the Echelon Connect Sport and how it compares to the b1805. Thanks for all your hard work with the reviews,
Congrats Ron Ron! That is a good price! It will be a little while before I get to the Echelon Connect, but I have a gut a feeling you might the right decision. I have had a couple comments about that model having problems and being poor build quality. I think the Sunny is built to last, so considering the great price I think you were on the right side of these choices. Hope you love it!
Thanks for this. I've never wanted to spend 2 grand (plus a monthly membership!) on a Peloton because I know that I can get tired of the same thing. However, given all the staying at home we have been doing lately, we have been looking for a good cardio activity/machine because I won't get up early enough to go run outside when it's somewhat cool during this summer. My sister has a Peloton (and a membership that she can share!) so I love how detailed you get in regards to Peloton compatibility. Thanks so much!
Glad to help Terese! Good idea getting a more affordable option if you know you may want to try new things after a while! One FYI - I believe it share that login account, you can only ride at one location at a time. Good luck with getting your bike setup!
Another great review thank you . I was wondering about the quality of the Sunny as I have never heard of it before while Schwinn’s name is highly recognized. After watching your video, the Sunny is another top contender for my consideration.
Thanks Cube Hire! Both solid options! I know a lot of people have commented that used the Sunny as their stepping stone before getting the Peloton. Most of them still have great things to say about the Sunny even though they have moved on. I think that says a lot.
I have not got my hands on that one yet, but the stats look impressive! I really like the 48 lbs flywheel. Everything else looks comparable to an IC4 type bike but with some improvements. Let me know if you decide to get it!
I just ordered the Sunny Synergy Pro for $699 as it may be 3 months before i get the IC4. It has everything the IC4 has except for Bluetooth. I think i will keep both.
Thanks for your video! I bought the IC4 and really like it... Tried it with Zwift using my new 2 in 1 Dell laptop. I found that the laptop folded into tablet mode doesn't fit between the brackets - but manages to rest with just a bit of the case under the brackets - I think I'll figure out something simple to add secure my laptop while using it... so I don't risk it falling off. My intent today is to try out some of the other services e.g. Peloton, Explore the World... I highly recommend the IC4.
Got the Sunny last week on Amazon for $442. I already had pedals, so adding on weights, cadence monitor and Scoche heart rate monitor for just under $600 total. Thanks for all this info. As a taller rider, the Sunny is working great for me.
As a technician, A point to add on may be the warranty. Schwinn comes with a much better warranty, though currently both manufacturers are very difficult to get ahold of.
How does the warranty work though? Do they come to your house and fix it or you have to send it back to them? For people who live in a city we have no space to keep boxes, and we don’t have cars to take something this big to UPS. An Uber plus alone could be like 80 bucks.
Awesome! Always nice to find one of these at a deal! Hope you love it and remember that you can pair Peloton Digital to it if you want to kick up the enjoyment factor! 😀
Yeah, that is because they are out of stock and people are trying to sell them with bloated prices... too bad. Glad you got one though and hope you love it! Oh, and thank you!
Keep an eye on that, tho! I logged onto amazon this afternoon and found one in stock for $611! Should be here on Friday :) I was keeping my eye on that $999 one just in case they dropped the price but that never happened.
Thank you for the video. It helped me to decide that not getting a peloton is still on as long as was getting my fitness goals met. Also didn’t know about the Peloton app. Very happy with my purchase thank you.
Very nice review. I’m a Zwifter, haven’t really looked into Peloton at all. I already pay $14.95 a month for Zwift. My plan was to get a Sunny and then hook it up with both cadence and speed sensors and then replace the left crank shaft with a Stages power meter so that I can Zwift. I’m trying to save wear and tear on my carbon bike frames since I am a larger individual who puts a lot of stress on a frame when I stand up. The extra cost of the supplemental sensors is supposed to be offset by the benefit of the reported heavier flywheel and therefore increased potential resistance over the IC4. The problem has been finding out the length of the Sunny crank shaft. I already have a crankshaft power meter on my road bike that I ride only in the spring and summer that I could switch out during the winter with the Sunny but they have to be the same length. I’m worried that the IC4 won’t provide enough resistance given that every video I’ve watched has stated that the Sunny provides harder resistance. I’ve been going back and forth for a few weeks now. I think I’ll just go with the IC4 because the power meter is already built in and that’s very very difficult to find in a bike at that price. I am also 6’2” and a little heavier and older but it was great to hear and see one video where banging the knees against the water bottle holder wasn’t really an issue. If it is, I will just detach it. I have a table beside my workout area. I really enjoyed your video. Thank you for taking the time to make it.
My pleasure and glad it helped! I am not overly familiar with Zwift so I don't have any great advise but sounds like you are on the right track. I hope it works out well for you and you are happy with whatever setup you decide to go with!
Another great review. Thank you Travis. I'm all but sold on the Schwinn IC4, but I do have a question (apart from "Will you lend me the money to buy it?" J/K! ). If I already have a smart television on the wall in the room where I'll be riding, can I do a screencast from the tablet to the television, so I can watch the Peloton app or Zwift app on the larger screen? Or would I need to run a interconnecting cable? Thanx again. Keep up the good work!
Thanks S Rowe! Which setup would you be using? (What tablet type to what TV input) I use IOS, which of last check has more features with Peloton Digital than the Android app, and can test with that. I use a Roku, so I could test IOS to Roku and see if that works. Outside of that, I might not have the ability to test other combos. Last time I checked, the Peloton Digital app did not have any screen casting options built in so you would have to use the devices screen casting functionality.
Outstanding review Travis. It looks like it comes down to resistance display or not. Currently (3/28) a $245 price difference between the two. Add a wahoo sensor and you are looking at $200 difference for basically the ability to view your actual resistance. I personally think that is too steep a price to pay for that creature comfort - Ill take the heavier flywheel and enjoy the intuitive nature behind the Sunny! Thanks for the review - Oh and IC4 is 45 business days expected delivery! The Sunny is a few days on Amazon. So no brainer!
Nice! and I agree with you. For that price difference, I would go Sunny. It is a tough call because knowing resistance helps with the "Peloton Experience", and I know a lot of people would lose motivation if they felt like it was challenging to be immersed in the ride. I go back and forth, but if I had to choose one, I think even I would go with the Sunny. Again, both great bikes, but I would pick a little better ride over the features of the IC4. Depends on personality and what you match up with. Enjoy you new ride!!!
Hi! Great review! Thank you so much. I'm sorry if this has already been asked but how loud is the Sunny? I had a bike trainer for my road bike and it was so loud I couldn't stand to use it so I figured this was a better option. Thanks again!
Hello Jennifer and no problem at all! The 1805 I received was close to silent. I don't think you will have a problem with that at all! if you get it, hope you love it!
Thank you for the review. Very complete! What can you tell us about noise level. You briefly referenced to it in the video. I live at an apartment, and I do not want the neighbors complaining about my indoor rides :) Also, I do not want to get annoyed by the noise to a point to stop using the bike. THX!
No worries at all. In my case the IC4 made the slightest of noise. Really should not call it noise. Just a very light humming sound. It was nothing. The Sunny was basically silent. One thing I would consider is getting an exercise mat. It helps to dampen the sound and in your case would probably be a smart move. But I can't imagine these being a problem for you or neighbors. amzn.to/2MPWK7J
@@Learnwithtravis Thank you so much! Your additional comment was very helpful. I am leaning towards the IC4 and I see that they added a full color backlit LCD display. Have you tested the Nordick S22i; it looks like an F1 even in its price... :-)
@@selsan6059 No problem at all and glad it helped! FYI - The IC4 is pretty much sold out and from what I hear has a long wait right now. I may have just received a S22i yesterday... 😂
Hi Travis! Your video help me to decide to buy any of this one but unfortunately I have to wait either of this two. I order the Sunny I dont know when I can get it.. by the way thank you for making this video.
Hey Nicole! Thank you! I have been really thinking about this one and struggling to provide an answer. I have not tested the ex3 so it is hard for me to say. If you asked about the ex5 vs IC4, I probably would say ex5. I think the ex3 is close to the ex5 but a smaller flywheel (not 100 percent sure). Some of this may depend on if you are going to be using Peloton digital. If you are, the IC4 displays resistance in a 0 - 100 scale like the Peloton making it easier to match up with Peloton rides. Cadence also pairs to the app which makes jumping right into Peloton digital easier. Although I know people have commented about enjoying using their Echelon for Peloton rides. So, maybe slightly leaning towards IC4 if you really want to go full Peloton.... If not, and you are going to use the Echelon system or other options, I would probably say ex3. But very hard to say because I honestly don't know and am guessing a little based on my ex5 experience. I hope that helps!
Just a fantastic comparison snd exactly what I was looking for, thank you very much! Quick question about the IC4 with the Peleton app. Does this combo essentially give you everything the actual Peleton gives you except maybe precise adjustments? Thank you!
Thank you so much and glad to help! It gives you a lot but there are a few things here and there missing. On the actual Peloton you can see your resistance on screen and with the IC4 you have to look on the IC4's monitor. Hardly a big deal. The biggest thing is that you lose the leaderboard. If you love the competitive nature of competing against others, then not having that could be a bummer. If you are more into the instruction led side of things and doing your thing, it is very close to a Peloton ride and you are not missing too much. Hope that helps!
Hi Travis. Great video as always. Fairly new to your channel. I have been looking closely at both the Echelon and Schwinn. Do you have any preference over either?
The IC4 is great if you want versatility. For example, you might want to put Peloton content on for a month, then switch to Zwift, then iFit, and you might want times where you use TH-cam or watch movies. It is setup to load different options on your own tablet and let you work out how you want. The Echelon is more of a one stop stop. I think it is a little bit better bike than the IC4 (Both are good) and you have that Echelon user interface and content readily available. Makes it more of an easy no excuses option because it is ready to go with lots of content options ready, but you are locked into only Echelon content. So, more of a "how do you plan to use the bike" answer, but hope this helps!
@@Learnwithtravis really appreciate the reply. I'm a complete novice when it comes to indoor cycling. Your videos have been fantastic, and a really great insight for someone who doesn't know a huge amount on the subject. Keep up the great work, delighted I found your channel.
Unfortunately the quarantine has resulted in a lot of home gym equipment running out of stock and the IC4 is no exception. If you want it, I would put your order in sooner than later so at least you can start to reduce that wait time, but yeah, it is a bummer.
I called today and they said delivery would be about 45 business days. The bikes aren’t even in stock for them to ship out. Sunny guarantees shipment in 2-4 weeks and delivery takes 5-7 days. So I bought the Sunny! I already have a Wahoo HRM so I figure it might actually be more convenient to have all my stats in the Wahoo app rather than separately on a console
Thank you for the reviews. I couldn't find either bike, or the cadence sensor at your affiliate links (sold out), but just picked up the SH SF-B1913 with the pedals, computer with everything except bluetooth for only $599 (Plus Tax + S&H ) I already have a fitbit and Polar H10 but I may add the Wahoo CM when they come back in stock. Do you have a Ko-Fi I can tip you at for the great advice? I have been TH-cam Redding all of your videos.
That is great to hear Brent! Virtually everything is sold out right now so it is awesome to hear you were able to put together a great solution. Does admitting I had to Google what Ko-Fi was answer your question? Haha, but that is super nice of you and I really appreciate it! Maybe I will look into setting that up at some point, but at this point, just glad you were able to find some good equipment! Enjoy it!
Very Comprehensive review and helpful video!! I really appreciate your review as well. I am looking at the SF-B1709 and it does come with all the digital monitoring that are missing on the SF-B1805. The flywheel is in the back and the weight is only 7.36 lbs. It cost the same on Amazon for $599 right now. Do you have any thoughts about SF-B1709 and light flywheel on the back? Thanks again!
Thank you so much Ar Kai! I tested the Echelon which has the flywheel in the back and it did not seem to change anything, so I don't think that really matters. The big thing for me is that I have not tested one of these lighter flywheel options. It could be fantastic but I just don't know and don't want to misguide you. I am hoping to do some testing of those models down the road as I want to know how they compare to heavier flywheel models. Good luck and sorry I don't have a great answer... yet.
I’ve been waiting for your review of these two bikes. Exactly what I’d hoped for...and....I am still on the fence LOL! If there was a way to see resistance on the Sunny...
LearnWithTravis My ONLY hang up is the resistance display. How do you find moving from [example] being told go to 60 from say 40? How do you know where you’re at on the Sunny?
You don't...exactly. But, you can still get a pretty good idea. For example, many instructors will describe a resistance of 30 as flat road. So You can dial the resistance around until it is comparable to a flat road or slight resistance. From there, you can figure out how many turns it takes until it feel more like a steep hill climb which may represent a resistance of 70 or so. Or you could spin the resistance until you get to the max so you know how many turns between 30 and 100. This will help give you a ball park of how much to turn it for various changes. I know when reading this, it may sound difficult or like too much work, but it is really not that bad if you are leaning towards the Sunny. So many people have done this and are very happy with their workout and ability to still match the Peloton instructors.
Thanks for this great review! Given the positive review of the B1805, would you be comfortable with a higher end model from Sunny, such as the B1913? It has a sensor and a 46 lb flywheel. It's in stock at Dick's with $300 off. There does not appear to be many reviews on other models
I have not tested that model myself, but Sunny has a good track record. I rarely see people have bad things to say about them. The model you mentioned seems very close to the model I tested but with a few quality upgrades. I have no reason to think it would not be a great bike! I don't think it has a cadence sensor, so if you plan to use Peloton DIgital, you may want that. Hope that helps!
Travis thanks for all the videos. Do you have any suggestions (or maybe a good video idea) on how best to use the IC4/SUNNY and the peloton app without Apple. As I understand you can't sync a heart rate monitor and cadence sensor to the peloton app on a Android or Firestick. the IC4 having the realtime display is great and I guess you can do it with the Sunny and some add ons. But what app would you recommend records the heart rate and cadence sensor (maybe speed too) of a work out and display's ones progress overtime. Looking for another method to keep my motivation up. I think you had a video about the fitbit and how you can dump peloton data to it bu no real deep dive
I have mostly used the IOS devices but you are right about a video idea for Android devices. It might be a little while before I can get to it. So hitting up Peloton chat might get you a quicker answer but I will start playing around with Android. Good luck!
Thanks - great review. Question - when you reference the Peloton App which is compatible with the IC4 do you mean the $12.95/month digital app or the $39 all access app? Thanks again
Thanks Bob! The Peloton App (Peloton Digital) that you use with the IC4 is the 12.95 a month option. You only pay the 39 a month price when you are on an actual Peloton.
How does the sunny 1851 compare to the Schwinn Ic4? A must have for me is that the resistance knob match with the peloton as I want to use the app. I’ve ordered an IC4 and my gut says just to wait out the 6 weeks...but I really want a bike sooner than that! I appreciate your time! Great and helpful video!
It is a nice bike but I don't think the resistance matches up or has a display to tell you what resistance you are at. Based on your comment I would wait for the IC4 as that sounds like the bike for you. Hang in there! 😀
Thanks for the awesome video, exactly the type of info I needed. I had 99% decided on a Peloton, then researched and realized trying the app with a less pricey bike would be a better way to start out. Then decided on the Schwinn, but it just dropped off Amazon, so I looked at the Bowflex version, but it's $150 more and sounds like a 1-2 month delivery time? Was wondering if the Sunny was a comparable/worthy choice and from this vid, sounds like it's a solid bike. At this point I'm just hoping I can get something shipped in a decent amount of time, lol.
Glad to hear the video helped you out Gary! I know the SF-B1805 from my video goes in and out of stock a lot, so keep on eye out. Another model I know a lot of people get is currently in stock: amzn.to/2UoFxb9 Whatever you go with, hope you love it! Remember, the Sunny does not come with any of the connectivity options the C6 has, so a cadence monitor and HRM can enhance the ride. th-cam.com/video/h341iQ62iho/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much for your video -- I found this very helpful! Could you please kindly share your thoughts about the IC4 vs Bowflex c6. I really appreciate your time! :)
Great to hear Helen! From everything I understand, the IC4 and C6 are identical, just re-branded for different companies under the same parent company. For this reason, I have a really hard time recommending the C6 knowing the IC4 is the same bike but 100 dollars cheaper.
After watching your review I was thinking i would go with the IC4 because of all features, but i noticed that Dicks sporting good has the Sunny SF-B1913 which has a monitor for speed, cadence, distance, calories, time, and pulse. It seems like an upgrade to the model you reviewed. The current price is 599.99 plus 85.00 for shipping. So now I am leaning to the Sunny SF-B1913 and was wondering if you have checked this model out and had any thoughts on it. Thanks for your great reviews.
Thanks Mark! I have had my eye on that one to review, as I agree that it looks like a nice improvement. That price seems great as it is listed for 799 on the Sunny website. The big difference between that model and the IC4 is that you will not have your resistance displayed so make sure you are okay with that. While I have not reviewed the 1913 yet, it seems like a really nice model.
Travis, thanks for the awesome comparison. I'm almost sold on the sunny 1805. ill be using the peloton app - what is the best way to adjust the resistance based on what the instructor is calling for? thats the only thing i like about the ic4 in comparison (having that display gauge). thanks!
Thanks Scott! I turn the resistance all the way to 0 and then count how many half turns until max resistance. This helps me to understand what a half turn equates to. You can then estimate your resistance and make adjustments close to what they are requesting. After a while you gain a feel for what different resistance levels feel like.
Even though the Sunny is cheaper. One of the most important thing about a bike is the warranty service. Schwinn, from several reviews I see online seem to have really good reviews on warranty and customer service. I looked at Proform and Myx reviews and they both don't seem to have good customer service when it comes to dealing with warranty. I don't know about Sunny though. When something goes wrong, I have to trust the manufacturer will take care of my problems well.
Love the video and want to try the Sunny, but is there an add-on I can purchase for the 1805 distance monitoring if I don't use a device/iPad/Peleton app? Thanks for your videos!
Thanks H Sapre. I didn't play with it much, but the Wahoo app you can use with the Wahoo sensors displays distance. I am not sure if this comes from the cadence or speed sensor and usually you only use the cadence sensor with spins bikes. I would research Wahoo a little but and see if that works for you. Very good products.
Thank you for the very helpful review! I went with the Sunny based on your comments. Making a decision was not easy with so many mid range options out there, e.g., Joroto, Yosuda, Pooboo etc. Would you mind sharing how to arrived at these two models to review? I just ordered the Sunny today so my question is moot and really just to make me feel better about my purchase, LOL!
Haha, sure thing! I follow the Peloton forums and whenever the topic of best bikes for Peloton Digital came up, the majority talked about using Sunny and how much they loved it. So I knew they were a great option already. I grabbed one to review and learned they were right. A very solid option for the price point. The IC4 is a nice bike as well and it depends on what features and functionality are important to you, but so many people have used the Sunny for this setup and been very happy. Congrats Bill and hope you love it!
This is awesome! What about the Sunny SF-B1913? Trying to find the best BYO bike that will pair with Peloton digital easily. I thought the Schwinn IC4 seemed like a great option, but will take a couple of months to get.
Thanks Kate! That looks like a really nice bike. I think that model may depend on how you plan to use it. If you are going to ride on your own (no Peloton Digital), I think it could be great. If you want to pair with Peloton Digital, their may be better options. Don't get me wrong, that is still a very nice bike and could work great. My concern is the price point for the extras you get over the model I reviewed in this video. The flywheel is the same (if my memory is right), but it has the pulse sensor (not a fan), and the display that does not really add to Peloton digital (no resistance display). It does have clip in pedals which is nice, but overall I don't feel like the features that increase the price pair well with Peloton Digital. Stand-alone, that is another story. Hope that helps!
Travis, I love the details of your videos. I've been trying to decide on a bike for two months. I thought the IC4 would be a good choice but today i saw it next to a IC3. The IC3 has a same build but has friction resistance and a less dynamic display. The smoothness of the resistance of the IC3 stood out over the IC4. I thought the IC4 at mid to high resistance was not smooth and as you turn it higher it was rather irregular. At the highest setting the IC4 was still functional but the IC3 (with the friction pad) was very restrictive. Is this typical difference between magnetic resistance and friction resistance? Thanks!
Not necessarily. It comes down to how each version is calibrated (and other factors). For example, with magnetic resistance, how close are the magnets getting and how strong are the magnets. Different bikes have very different top end resistance feels. With the IC4, they seem to be inconsistent with how they are calibrated. Many have used a calibration document to correct it and improve that top end resistance. Mine was the same way though and top end resistance was lower a lot of other options. Thanks Dan!
How does the Schwinn IC3 compare to the Sunny bike? It seems as though the IC3 is the IC4 minus the features you mentioned and is cheaper than the Sunny.
I have not looked into the IC3 too much, but at a quick glance it looks like the IC4 without some of the connectivity options that let you connection of to Peloton Digital\Zwift. The IC4 has a slightly smaller flywheel than the Sunny model I usually talk about. The IC3 appears to be a little smaller than the IC4. I have not tested it, but I would guess it is still a solid bike.
Travis, I’ve been watching a ton of videos trying to decide which bike to get to supplement my NordicTrack S22i in a different location and this has been, by far, the most well done and thought out that I’ve seen so thanks so much. I am leaning toward the IC4 but need to make sure that I can use my iFit app (don’t want to have to purchase the Peleton app as well). Do you know if I can?
Thanks Dave! From what I understand, you can still put the iFit app on your tablet and do manual rides. There is no integration between the IC4 and iFit (cadence ide sharing) but you can still follow the content and get credit for the ride. Hope that helps!
That does help, thank you. Do you happen to know of another great bike in this price range that would integrate with iFit? Otherwise, at their $1,499 Black Friday price,I may just get another S22i.
So, Stryde is the option that lets you install iFit right into the attached monitor. I don’t think iFit gathers any info from the bike but you can do your iFit rides right on the screen. I love the Stryde but considering you already know you love the S22i and the price dropped… it feels like that might be the most seamless option to junk into. Another iFit option is the proform studio pro 22.
Hi! I just was wondering- when you talk about noise for the IC4- are you talking about the frame noise when out of the saddle? I got an IC4 in August and have been experimenting with trying to fix the frame creaking noise. A couple of things that helped - I changed out my mat to a thin rubber type mat instead of a thicker foam mat. Also, I put some rubberized electrical tape at the front holes for the bolts before setting the bike onto the frame and put a little 3-1 oil in the hole and rebolted it. So far it seems to be better. Let me know if you have found any other fixes for that. Great video! Thx
I believe I was talking about noise coming from the flywheel. It was minor but worth pointing out. I don't think I had the creaks you referred to but glad you were able to make them better!
Hi Travis, just getting started with a spin bike trying to research it and found your channel really enjoy your reviews. I haven’t seen any reviews on the pro form bikes are they not worth looking at? I am quiet confused with all the brands and features to choose from, help
Hello Christina! Pro Form could be great. It is new so not too many reviews exist yet. I will probably try to get one next year. Lets see if we can narrow this down for you. Are you looking for a budget solution or all inclusive (think Peloton with attached monitor)? What type of content do you like? (Scenic, studio, calm instructors, intense motivators, SPA feel versus club) Last, how difficult of rides do you want to do? (light rides vs push you to your limits)
@@Learnwithtravis hi Travis thanks for replying! I am not sure what I am looking for that’s why it’s confusing,, looking for something strong mid range priced and a strong frame. I would like something that my husband could also use if he wanted to, he is tall and I and short so probably a hard combo ☺️. I would like to have the option of connecting to an app to do the rides and other classes but I don’t necessarily need the monitor because I do have an iPad and a large tv in the room. I don’t need anything very strenuous I am 59 and I am doing exercise to lower cholesterol and try to stay healthy. Right now I am using the pro form elliptical and walking about 2 to 3 miles in between, I do need some motivation so the interaction would be great to push me a bit. Thank u again for you help
@@cristinacalderon4543 So, the classic use your own device is the IC4. It has a resistance display and cadence sensor for using the Peloton app on an Apple device. That would probably be the best option for using your own tablet. After that, the MYX fitness is a great one because it has a lot of the nice feature at a good price point (quality bike, attached monitor, swivel monitor for off bike workouts, good mix of zen like content). Last would be the original Peloton. Get all of the goodness of Peloton but at a reduced price because the Bike+ came out. I will say having an attached monitor is nice because there is one less step and you can immerse yourself into the ride more. Give the MYX a look.
@@Learnwithtravis thank you for all the good info! The only thing about the MYX is that it’s not magnetic and the noise might be to much, any other suggestions on a lower priced with good features? The peloton is very nice and that’s what I was thinking when I started looking at them but I am afraid to invest and find out that I won’t use it as much as I should. I do agree with you that something with a monitor might be more friendly to use not so many steps
Travis What affordable bike computer would you suggest for someone who does not own a smart phone or tablet? I appreciate your reviews on both the Sunny SB1805 and the Schwinn IC4. If I decide to go with the Sunny bike in your review I would need a bike computer and wahoo cadence per your suggestions. Please let me know your thoughts on a bike computer. I'm noticing that most are not able to be used with indoor stationary bike. I look forward to your thoughts.
Hey Nora! The first link below is to the Peloton Digital website that shows different options for streaming their content. If you want to get the full experience (Cadence and Heart Rate info displayed), then I would go with an iPad. That is what I have tested with and they worked really well (Second link if you want to check it out... there are multiple iPad versions so shop around) www.onepeloton.com/app amzn.to/3eGey33
Just a heads up for people who live in Canada and ordering through amazon. There are a bunch of reviews that Sunny will not honor their warranty on this bike outside of the US. I can tell you that was the case with an elipitical I purchased from them about a year ago, and had to have amazon take it back.
Thanks McNormy69! It has been a while since I was on that bike, but I believe I felt like I had quite a bit of room at 6'3". I also believe their website states it supports people up to 6'6". So, you would be right at their published limit but guessing... I think you would fit.
What home gym or health topic should I review next???
Here are the bikes if you want to check them out!
Schwinn IC4: amzn.to/2V66NN1
Sunny SF-B1805: amzn.to/371ypWf
Hi Travis. Any thoughts on the Pro Form Carbon CX bike? Thanks!
The link takes you to the IC2 or IC3. How do they differ from the IC4?
@LearnwithTravis how big of a difference in resistance at the high end is the sunny to your peloton would you say? I like the bells and whistles of the IC4 but i just returned an echelon connect sport (walmart only) bike due to the high end being low.
@@robmertzig4911 The Sunny has solid top end resistance, but the Peloton still had a good amount more. For my Sunny, the top resistance provided a hard spin but I could ride through it. Peloton at max is very difficult. Hope that helps.
Not sure of the specifics but each loses a little functionality from the others. Ic2 has smaller flywheel and neither mention a cadence sensor for peloton digital or a resistance display like the ic4. I only took a quick look though as I have not had my hands on these bikes.
We tackled assembling the bike as a family project. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxzg0clhbtRf2gGxPkVETFKJJKGqdsorQu The package is heavy, but I have 2 teen boys that were able to move it. The written instructions were great- we didn't need to watch the videos, but it was good knowing that the option was there if we needed it. After we were able to get it set up, the boys each rode 3 miles and I rode 8 and the bike stayed quiet. The display is easy to reset, and you can put it on whichever setting you are using (time, distance, calories, etc). I will say that my butt is a little sore from the seat, but that could be because I haven't rode in a while. While it is comfortable for me, it was not comfortable with the seat position for my friend (could not move the seat back far enough and he slightly looked like a kid riding a tricycle that he had outgrown). He also said that the seat hurt his manly parts. We are going to look for a different seat that will be compatible with this bike for him.I did purchase the Wahoo Cadence sensor and strapped it to the crank of one of the pedals. This will sync with my Apple Watch, iPhone and will import data in to my Health app. Wahoo does have other sensors available other than cadence. I can also keep either my phone or my iPad on the display and they both feel pretty secure.
Which one did you get?
Nice review. Wish my daughter had bought the Sunny. She got an IC4, delivered on Mar. 29. I installed it for her and we test rode it for about 10 mins. It immediately developed a howling belt. We called Schwinn. They said there was no way to send a technician because of Covid. So, they offered to send us the parts and we could install a new belt. This repair requires some tools including their proprietary crank puller tool. They said the belt would arrive in 8 biz days. The tool needed to be back ordered (20 biz days). The belt arrived. When it was time to receive the tool, they sent an email saying it would now be 45 biz days. So, the bike purchased at end March would be usable earliest some time in June. After a couple phone calls, both of which necessitated 1 hour hold times, they were apologetic, but could offer no other solution. Schwinn were handed a windfall from Peloton and Covid. They couldn't execute. We shall see if the crank puller arrives, or we get yet another delay email. BTW, if you return the bike, they expect you to pay shipping, despite it not working to spec. How's that for a raw deal. My conclusion: Don't buy the IC4.
Thanks Shane and so sorry to hear you ran into this nightmare situation. That is too bad you have to pay for shipping. Most of this sounds like the result of Covid and the terrible situation it has put us in, but the bike being damaged on arrival and having to pay to ship back definitely sounds bad on Schwinn's part. I will say this is the first time I have heard of problems like this, so hopefully it is not common, but really sorry to hear what you have had to deal with. I hope it resolves itself soon and it is a distant memory before long!
Buy local /specialty fitness and you won't have these problems. I should clarify, even if you did have these problems, there would be people down the street ready to help you.
I bought an IC4 a couple of weeks ago. I love it so far using the Peloton app. Having the resistance level right in front of me is a game changer. I see no reason to upgrade to a Peloton bike.
Great to hear. It is a very solid bike with some nice features! Good to hear the peloton app pairing is working out well!
how long did it take for you to receive your bike?
I am thinking about getting this bike for my home as my gym has been closed. Are you super happy with it?
How strong is the resistance? Can you make it tough enough that you can only pedal while standing? Thank you.
@@bmp713 i want to know the same!
Nice... I’ve had my IC4 since early December. 62 and really enjoy the simplicity of how everything has its place. I’m more of a leisure exerciser usually about 25 miles a day. My wife ( of 32 Great Years ) Is a Exceptional Triathlete and she Rides the IC4 Very Hard. I watch the 55 in TV (The Middle or Leave It to Beaver) She uses her Lap Top and Trains with Trainers on the internet. Over all we both enjoy the IC4 very much. Thanks so much for the information you have shared. I found it very informative.... Great Job. Thank You. :-)) PS it Looks Great in the Living Room.....
Haha! Good to hear and I bet it does look good there. I like how your example shows how it can be a great cardio option for completely different exercise styles! BTW - 32 years, that is amazing!
Lifetime runner here, on that journey to choose an indoor spin bike. Finding your channel is perfect timing 👍🏼Thanks for this invaluable comparison video. Take care!
Awesome! Glad to have you! Glad the videos are helping. Testing the Nordictrack S22i right now and have an Echelon on the way, so stay tuned for more reviews!
This was a very helpful review and comparison. I've been shopping around for months and finally narrowed it between these two. I ended up going with the IC4 because Schwinn offered a much better warranty. Schwinn offers 3 years electrical/mechanical, 1 for labor and 10 for frame) vs 6 months parts/components and 3 years for frame for Sunny. While it is something you might not ever need to utilize, it is nice to know that it's there.
Could not agree more and that is a big difference. I think both bikes are very well built and unlikely to have problems for most, but you can't ignore the difference there! Hope you love the bike!
I just bought the Sunny, directly from their website, for $460 total. I ordered it on Sunday and it was delivered on Saturday. I'm a beginner so I didn't want to spend a ton of money. I bought a cadence sensor for $40 on Amazon. I've always wanted the Schwinn, but the price difference was too great. Thank you for the awesome comparison review!
No problem at all and glad you found something! Enjoy it!
That's bizarre. I checked and it was sold out on Amazon (but still listed as like $480) but when I checked Sunny's website directly it had the B1805 listed as like $700! They also mentioned a delay in shipping due to COVID 19 but I'm glad to hear the shipping seems to be happening more quickly than their website indicates.
Hey Travis, thank you so much for such in-depth and unbiased reviews. I can't tell you how much time I spent between all your videos the past week, and you broke everything down in such a great way. I'd been considering a Peloton for moooooonths now but the financial hit was making it impossible to pull the trigger; I finally decided to go with the Sunny based on your reviews and I'm really excited to get started (nervous! But I'm hopeful that the app will keep me motivated). Just wanted to thank you so much for putting this all out here, it really helped so much. - Katia
Katia! Thank you so much for making my day! What a wonderful comment. I love hearing that my videos videos helped! I hope the Sunny turns out to be a perfect match for you. Enjoy the Peloton experience and don't get overwhelmed by it. Just remember to use it as a motivation tool and method to keep the excitement up. At the beginning you may feel like you can't keep up with them and that is completely okay. Stick to it and you will feel yourself getting stronger and when you notice it, you will love it! Enjoy it and thanks again!! -Travis
@@Learnwithtravis I have high hopes! Thank you again!
Im healing from stroke my blood pressure cholesterol and diabeting are approving .thank God for the bike
It is great to hear that you are finding ways back to health and glad to the bike assisting! Best wishes Sylvia.
My Sunny B1913 arrived this week.I am an avid spinner and this bike is as good as any bike from my gym based spinning classes. Added the Wahoo cadence sensor and off I went on the Peloton app. Once you figure out the resistance levels its fantastic. I paid $600 for the bike and immediately after the price went up to $1000.Wish I had done this sooner.
Wow! Sounds like you bot that bike just in time! Glad to hear it is working so well for you and that your spin setup came together so well!
LearnWithTravis next up I am going to follow your tips to lose the 8 pounds from Covid.
Thanks so much for the review. I bought the IC4 right around Christmas time. Best Buy was running a special for $499 and free delivery! It is working great for me so far. I wear cycle shoes and clip in so that was a major advantage for me on the IC4.
Awesome! That is such a good deal. Was not long ago they were around 1,000. So glad you are enjoying it!
Super comprehensive comparison video for each different wants/goals! Thank you!
My pleasure! Thank you Melody!
Avid peloton digital user here with an ic4 👋🏾. Having objective resistance is sooo worth it to me. I started with a different sunny that was great but my type A personality had me constantly frustrated that i didn’t have an objective measure of my resistance.
Haha! Great example here about how different bikes are going to work better for different people and their styles\preferences. Glad you are loving the IC4!
This is the review I was looking for! Thank you 😊
Glad it helped! Good luck with your decision!
I died a little every time the score came up on not matching the order of the bikes.
you ocd little bitch :)
Why did he do that? Lol
lol we had the same response. Still great info despite that. Keeps you focused, right?! ;)
Me too! hahahaa
Lol, honestly... it was a mistake. I think I had them right and as I was editing they got swapped and I never realized it. Sorry everyone!
This is exactly the kind of review I was looking for. If you have a long list of bikes that you want to buy, he helps you narrow down the search and choose what’s best for you and your budget.
Thank you so much Ronald! Really appreciate the kind words!
I really like this fair comparison. With some reviews, you just have the impression they are one-sided, making their personal taste (like the saddle) objective criteria, and I wonder why they do that. Or posting things they "hate" about a specific bike. This here is more factual, feels independent and is really good - thanks so much for making the effort. It confirms my decision to go for IC4 vs. Sunny, but with less budget I would have gotten a really good bike with the Sunny too.
Really appreciate the comment Stefan! I work hard to structure my videos much like you described so I am glad they come across that way. I never want to steer someone in a certain direction but help them determine the best option for them.
Just wanted to give you a shout out! Thanks to your GREAT vids I am now unpacking a Sunny B1805 and am going to do the Peloton app set up. You did a fabulous job of articulating the technical differences and the "real world" differences. I thank you for your great job in doing these videos. You rule dude!!!
Thank you so much for the wonderful comment Sonya! Put a smile on my face! Glad they helped and hope you love the Sunny! It is a great spin bike, so you should be able to get some awesome exercise! Enjoy!!!
@@Learnwithtravis Travis you really are awesome and made a huge difference for me. I'm 65 years old ouch and used to be a jock but now am a couch potato. I unpacked my Sunny today and am amazed at the quality of build. I've done remodeling and am handy and was expecting the usual pain in the butt process. It was effortless to install! I am shocked! Nothing I've put together has come together so easily. Wow! No stripped screws, missing pieces, shitty instructions etc. So truly I send you a heartfelt thank you. She's a beauty, silent, smooth and a a joy to spin on. I look forward to getting back in shape soon especially since we are locked down. I also got my wahoo today and will also add it. Then I'll sign up for the Pelton subscription which should adequately kick my butt! Thanks again!
So glad to hear that everything went well and you are already enjoy it. Now go put that work in and hit those goals you want! You can do this!!! Thanks again Sonya!
Ordered the IC4 from schwinn. Should arrive in a few weeks, cant wait 🔥🔥
Very nice! Congrats! Get ready for some amazing cardio!
Did it come?? How is it?
How strong is the resistance for your IC4? Can you make it tough enough that you can only pedal while standing? Thank you.
So how is the IC4?
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While i decide which bike to get, I have purchased the wahoo cadence sensor (added to my old-school, 5 year old, folding upright) to tide me over, loaded the Peloton app with FREE 30 day trial, put on my apple watch and am able to see my HR, cadence, calories and duration on my ipad pro, sitting quaintly on my $120 Pro-form starter bike (don't tell anyone...)
I am torn between the two you've just reviewed, and either the Joroto or MaxKare from Amazon, $399 + $ 340 respectively. MUST SAY IT WAS VERY COOL and rather unbelievable that I was able to get a quasi-peloton experience with this set-up, requiring only the $39 Wahoo purchase. Whichever upgraded indoor spin bike I choose, I'll probably continue with the $12.99/month paid version of Peloton digital app. Thanks for your review.
My pleasure and way to make what you have work! Glad you are loving it and hope you are able to find your next perfect bike when you are ready!
When talking about noise levels -- I really wish we could have heard a sample of each. Instead, the bike video was silent. Kinda bummed about that. Otherwise, solid and thorough review.
Honestly, they were both so close to silent that I don't think my microphone would pick much up. Good point and sorry that was not included.
Thanks for all of the great info and honest reviews. I pulled the plug on a peloton bike today and was able to get upgraded to the essentials package free from reading one of your subscribers comments regarding first responder discount. I went back and forth on the peloton bike vs digital and ultimately chose the bike because I feel like I’ll have extra motivation with the leaderboard. I hate that I have to wait five weeks for delivery but can’t wait to start.
No problem at all and congratulations. So glad to hear you were able to get the discount! I know some one near me got it within the week of ordering. I think it all depends on locality and what sort of numbers they have, but hoping you can get it sooner than 5 weeks! Enjoy the ride! Glad you were able to make an informed decision!
There is a first responders discount?
Glad you were able to get that! I am really leaning towards an IC4 purchase and actually emailed Sales Support to see if they were offering any sort of similar discount or special since Peloton and a few other exercise companies are. We'll see what they say! Looks like it already comes with just about everything you need, but it would be nice to knock a few bucks off to put towards a new iPad which I'll probably need...
You are a very pleasant, informative, objective and engaging reviewer. Thanks for this thorough and balanced comparison video.
Thank you so much Daniel! Really appreciate the nice works and no problem at all! Happy to create the video!
Thank you for providing complete and unbiased reviews of stationary bikes. I was headed down the Peloton path, but didn't want to be locked in to just the Peloton app. I have learned so much thanks to you. Soon I will be ready to make an informed purchase and feel confident I will get the right bike for me.
That is what I love to hear! I always hope my videos help people figure out the best option for them so this is fantastic! Congrats, thank you, and hope you love it!
My Sunny arrived today, I ordered it off Amazon for $503 took 9days to arrive, got floor mat, pedals, cadence sensor, and got 90 days free Peleton app. I'm happy, 1st ride this evening.
Awesome! That is not bad at all!
It’s 600 now 😭 . Did the app come free because it’s a new bike or because of Covid ? (90 days free from purchase or until July 31st?)
Free wheeling is a must, just in case the rider wishes to stop pedaling, in order to avoid accidental jolt to the knees and legs.
Thanks for the info. I'm leaning towards the IC4. They are both nice and would be huge upgrades over my old bike.
No problem. Both great options. Just need to figure out which is the better match for you. Good luck!
I noticed the price of the Sunny B1805 dropped last week on Amazon. So I went ahead and snagged one for $465. It is due to be delivered Friday. I was torn between the Sunny and the Echelon Connect Sport, but the sport has been out of stock for a while. Wouldn't you know the Echelon is back in stock now. I still saved a few coins going with the Sunny bike and I hope I'm happy with it. I'll still be curious to see what you think about the Echelon Connect Sport and how it compares to the b1805. Thanks for all your hard work with the reviews,
Congrats Ron Ron! That is a good price! It will be a little while before I get to the Echelon Connect, but I have a gut a feeling you might the right decision. I have had a couple comments about that model having problems and being poor build quality. I think the Sunny is built to last, so considering the great price I think you were on the right side of these choices. Hope you love it!
So glad you made this video! Exactly what I’m researching!! Just subscribed to your Chanel, thank you!
So glad it helped! Thanks Satita!
Thanks for this. I've never wanted to spend 2 grand (plus a monthly membership!) on a Peloton because I know that I can get tired of the same thing. However, given all the staying at home we have been doing lately, we have been looking for a good cardio activity/machine because I won't get up early enough to go run outside when it's somewhat cool during this summer. My sister has a Peloton (and a membership that she can share!) so I love how detailed you get in regards to Peloton compatibility. Thanks so much!
Glad to help Terese! Good idea getting a more affordable option if you know you may want to try new things after a while! One FYI - I believe it share that login account, you can only ride at one location at a time. Good luck with getting your bike setup!
Another great review thank you . I was wondering about the quality of the Sunny as I have never heard of it before while Schwinn’s name is highly recognized. After watching your video, the Sunny is another top contender for my consideration.
Thanks Cube Hire! Both solid options! I know a lot of people have commented that used the Sunny as their stepping stone before getting the Peloton. Most of them still have great things to say about the Sunny even though they have moved on. I think that says a lot.
Hi Travis, Love yor reviews! Wondering how does the Sole SB900 compare to either of these bikes?
I have not got my hands on that one yet, but the stats look impressive! I really like the 48 lbs flywheel. Everything else looks comparable to an IC4 type bike but with some improvements. Let me know if you decide to get it!
yes, also requesting this
As usual, great video! I love my IC4 for all the reasons you mentioned! Keep’em coming!
Will do and thank you so much Leenor!!!
Thank you fpr posting that you're part of the Amazon affiliate program! I hate it when content creators try to hide that information!
No problem!
Great informative video , I was debating if the sunny was going to be compatible with the peloton app and this helped me out a lot
That is what I like to hear! Glad it helped and hope whatever solution you with ends up working out great!
I just ordered the Sunny Synergy Pro for $699 as it may be 3 months before i get the IC4. It has everything the IC4 has except for Bluetooth. I think i will keep both.
Very nice! Let me know what you think John! Hope it works out great!
@@Learnwithtravis I will. I cancelled the IC4. The Sunny will be delivered Thursday. I saved $200. That works for me.
Thanks for your video! I bought the IC4 and really like it... Tried it with Zwift using my new 2 in 1 Dell laptop. I found that the laptop folded into tablet mode doesn't fit between the brackets - but manages to rest with just a bit of the case under the brackets - I think I'll figure out something simple to add secure my laptop while using it... so I don't risk it falling off. My intent today is to try out some of the other services e.g. Peloton, Explore the World... I highly recommend the IC4.
Great to hear and thanks for the feedback. I am sure that will help others. Let us know what you think of the different apps!
I got the sunny and only did a couple of rides but I’m enjoying it. I got the bike to get some rides before my weekend rides on my Mtb.
Glad it is working out well. You are going to be ready hit those trails!
Thx Travis always for your thorough reviews! You give us options with honest reviews and great personality helps! Keep it up!
Thanks Yep! Plan to keep them coming. Really appreciate the kind comments!
great review! ordered the Sunny for $500 on amazon
Thank you and hope it works great for you!
This is great, you might have just convinced me to get one of these over the Peloton bike!
Awesome! My hope is that my videos give viewers the info they need to make the best decision for them.
Got the Sunny last week on Amazon for $442. I already had pedals, so adding on weights, cadence monitor and Scoche heart rate monitor for just under $600 total. Thanks for all this info. As a taller rider, the Sunny is working great for me.
Great to hear and glad to help! Have a good one Michael!
fantastic. Im going with the iC4 thanks so much for the comparison
Glad to help! Hope you love it!
As a technician, A point to add on may be the warranty. Schwinn comes with a much better warranty, though currently both manufacturers are very difficult to get ahold of.
Good point!
How does the warranty work though? Do they come to your house and fix it or you have to send it back to them? For people who live in a city we have no space to keep boxes, and we don’t have cars to take something this big to UPS. An Uber plus alone could be like 80 bucks.
Looks like you helped me make my decision IC4 it is👍Thankyou
My pleasure! Hope you love it Denise!
Great video! Thanks a lot! I’m going to try to snag a slightly used sunny bike (the model you mentioned) and give it a spin :)
Awesome! Always nice to find one of these at a deal! Hope you love it and remember that you can pair Peloton Digital to it if you want to kick up the enjoyment factor! 😀
The Sunny, on 7/25/2020 is listed on Amazon for $999.00. The IC4 direct from Schwinn is $899.00. That settles it for me.
Awesome review!
Yeah, that is because they are out of stock and people are trying to sell them with bloated prices... too bad. Glad you got one though and hope you love it!
Oh, and thank you!
Keep an eye on that, tho! I logged onto amazon this afternoon and found one in stock for $611! Should be here on Friday :) I was keeping my eye on that $999 one just in case they dropped the price but that never happened.
Hey. That great. Loved the structure and the scenario choices - give good objective perspective 👍
Thank you so much Amnon!
Thank you for the video. It helped me to decide that not getting a peloton is still on as long as was getting my fitness goals met. Also didn’t know about the Peloton app.
Very happy with my purchase thank you.
Great to hear Stefanie! So glad the alternative is working so well for you and glad to help!
Very nice review. I’m a Zwifter, haven’t really looked into Peloton at all. I already pay $14.95 a month for Zwift. My plan was to get a Sunny and then hook it up with both cadence and speed sensors and then replace the left crank shaft with a Stages power meter so that I can Zwift. I’m trying to save wear and tear on my carbon bike frames since I am a larger individual who puts a lot of stress on a frame when I stand up. The extra cost of the supplemental sensors is supposed to be offset by the benefit of the reported heavier flywheel and therefore increased potential resistance over the IC4. The problem has been finding out the length of the Sunny crank shaft. I already have a crankshaft power meter on my road bike that I ride only in the spring and summer that I could switch out during the winter with the Sunny but they have to be the same length. I’m worried that the IC4 won’t provide enough resistance given that every video I’ve watched has stated that the Sunny provides harder resistance. I’ve been going back and forth for a few weeks now. I think I’ll just go with the IC4 because the power meter is already built in and that’s very very difficult to find in a bike at that price. I am also 6’2” and a little heavier and older but it was great to hear and see one video where banging the knees against the water bottle holder wasn’t really an issue. If it is, I will just detach it. I have a table beside my workout area. I really enjoyed your video. Thank you for taking the time to make it.
My pleasure and glad it helped! I am not overly familiar with Zwift so I don't have any great advise but sounds like you are on the right track. I hope it works out well for you and you are happy with whatever setup you decide to go with!
Another great review. Thank you Travis. I'm all but sold on the Schwinn IC4, but I do have a question (apart from "Will you lend me the money to buy it?" J/K! ). If I already have a smart television on the wall in the room where I'll be riding, can I do a screencast from the tablet to the television, so I can watch the Peloton app or Zwift app on the larger screen? Or would I need to run a interconnecting cable? Thanx again. Keep up the good work!
Thanks S Rowe! Which setup would you be using? (What tablet type to what TV input) I use IOS, which of last check has more features with Peloton Digital than the Android app, and can test with that. I use a Roku, so I could test IOS to Roku and see if that works. Outside of that, I might not have the ability to test other combos. Last time I checked, the Peloton Digital app did not have any screen casting options built in so you would have to use the devices screen casting functionality.
Hey Travis! Thanks for such a thorough review. Very helpful.
Could you please do a head to head between the Proform limited ifit and Peloton?
Thank you so much T C! I will add that one to my list to try and get!
LearnWithTravis Awesome! I look forward to your review.
Outstanding review Travis.
It looks like it comes down to resistance display or not.
Currently (3/28) a $245 price difference between the two.
Add a wahoo sensor and you are looking at $200 difference for basically the ability to view your actual resistance. I personally think that is too steep a price to pay for that creature comfort - Ill take the heavier flywheel and enjoy the intuitive nature behind the Sunny! Thanks for the review - Oh and IC4 is 45 business days expected delivery! The Sunny is a few days on Amazon. So no brainer!
Nice! and I agree with you. For that price difference, I would go Sunny. It is a tough call because knowing resistance helps with the "Peloton Experience", and I know a lot of people would lose motivation if they felt like it was challenging to be immersed in the ride. I go back and forth, but if I had to choose one, I think even I would go with the Sunny. Again, both great bikes, but I would pick a little better ride over the features of the IC4. Depends on personality and what you match up with. Enjoy you new ride!!!
Thank you Travis for this tutorial.. You definitely educated me on these two spin bikes..
Great to hear Norma! Glad to help!
EXCELLENT review/comparison. straight to the point...even have a point system which is very helpful!!! Thank you!
Thank you so much Laylahooch! Glad to help!
Thank you for helping me make up my mind! Looking forward to my new spin bike!
Glad to help and congrats on your new bike! Enjoy!!!
Thank you for the video 👍what is the different between the schwinn ic8 vs ic4 ..🤔 I'm planning to buy IC8 from schwinn...?
Sure thing! IC8 is the European version of the IC4. I believe it is basically the same bike.
@@Learnwithtravis thank you 👍
Hi! Great review! Thank you so much. I'm sorry if this has already been asked but how loud is the Sunny? I had a bike trainer for my road bike and it was so loud I couldn't stand to use it so I figured this was a better option. Thanks again!
Hello Jennifer and no problem at all! The 1805 I received was close to silent. I don't think you will have a problem with that at all! if you get it, hope you love it!
Thanks, you ended up helping me alot i ended up going with the shwinn IC4
No problem at all! Hope you love the IC4!
Thank you for the review. Very complete!
What can you tell us about noise level. You briefly referenced to it in the video.
I live at an apartment, and I do not want the neighbors complaining about my indoor rides :)
Also, I do not want to get annoyed by the noise to a point to stop using the bike. THX!
No worries at all. In my case the IC4 made the slightest of noise. Really should not call it noise. Just a very light humming sound. It was nothing. The Sunny was basically silent. One thing I would consider is getting an exercise mat. It helps to dampen the sound and in your case would probably be a smart move. But I can't imagine these being a problem for you or neighbors.
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@@Learnwithtravis Thank you so much! Your additional comment was very helpful. I am leaning towards the IC4 and I see that they added a full color backlit LCD display. Have you tested the Nordick S22i; it looks like an F1 even in its price...
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@@selsan6059 No problem at all and glad it helped! FYI - The IC4 is pretty much sold out and from what I hear has a long wait right now. I may have just received a S22i yesterday... 😂
Buddy who runs a gym gave me a Schwinn Carbon Blue they were swapping out... awesome bike
Nice! I have got a lot of requests to review that one so have been hoping to get to it. Glad to hear it is a nice one!
Hi Travis! Your video help me to decide to buy any of this one but unfortunately I have to wait either of this two. I order the Sunny I dont know when I can get it.. by the way thank you for making this video.
Glad to help! Yeah, there is a long wait for just about everything. I hope it comes in sooner than later!!!
Hi Travis! Great video! Based on your preferences would you get the Echelon ex3 or Schwinn ic4? Really value your opinion.
Hey Nicole! Thank you! I have been really thinking about this one and struggling to provide an answer. I have not tested the ex3 so it is hard for me to say. If you asked about the ex5 vs IC4, I probably would say ex5. I think the ex3 is close to the ex5 but a smaller flywheel (not 100 percent sure). Some of this may depend on if you are going to be using Peloton digital. If you are, the IC4 displays resistance in a 0 - 100 scale like the Peloton making it easier to match up with Peloton rides. Cadence also pairs to the app which makes jumping right into Peloton digital easier. Although I know people have commented about enjoying using their Echelon for Peloton rides. So, maybe slightly leaning towards IC4 if you really want to go full Peloton.... If not, and you are going to use the Echelon system or other options, I would probably say ex3. But very hard to say because I honestly don't know and am guessing a little based on my ex5 experience. I hope that helps!
Just a fantastic comparison snd exactly what I was looking for, thank you very much! Quick question about the IC4 with the Peleton app. Does this combo essentially give you everything the actual Peleton gives you except maybe precise adjustments? Thank you!
Thank you so much and glad to help! It gives you a lot but there are a few things here and there missing. On the actual Peloton you can see your resistance on screen and with the IC4 you have to look on the IC4's monitor. Hardly a big deal. The biggest thing is that you lose the leaderboard. If you love the competitive nature of competing against others, then not having that could be a bummer. If you are more into the instruction led side of things and doing your thing, it is very close to a Peloton ride and you are not missing too much. Hope that helps!
Hi Travis. Great video as always. Fairly new to your channel. I have been looking closely at both the Echelon and Schwinn. Do you have any preference over either?
The IC4 is great if you want versatility. For example, you might want to put Peloton content on for a month, then switch to Zwift, then iFit, and you might want times where you use TH-cam or watch movies. It is setup to load different options on your own tablet and let you work out how you want. The Echelon is more of a one stop stop. I think it is a little bit better bike than the IC4 (Both are good) and you have that Echelon user interface and content readily available. Makes it more of an easy no excuses option because it is ready to go with lots of content options ready, but you are locked into only Echelon content. So, more of a "how do you plan to use the bike" answer, but hope this helps!
@@Learnwithtravis really appreciate the reply. I'm a complete novice when it comes to indoor cycling. Your videos have been fantastic, and a really great insight for someone who doesn't know a huge amount on the subject. Keep up the great work, delighted I found your channel.
@@gordongettie1923 Thank you so much Gordon and glad to help! I hope whatever you decide to get, you thoroughly enjoy it!
Wow... What a great review and presentation. Simply awesome and thanks!
Thank you so much Gundam Master! I really appreciate the kind comment!
I've been researching the Schwinn IC4. The only problem I am really having is the fact that the Schwinn seems to be out of stock everywhere :(
Unfortunately the quarantine has resulted in a lot of home gym equipment running out of stock and the IC4 is no exception. If you want it, I would put your order in sooner than later so at least you can start to reduce that wait time, but yeah, it is a bummer.
I called today and they said delivery would be about 45 business days. The bikes aren’t even in stock for them to ship out. Sunny guarantees shipment in 2-4 weeks and delivery takes 5-7 days. So I bought the Sunny! I already have a Wahoo HRM so I figure it might actually be more convenient to have all my stats in the Wahoo app rather than separately on a console
I just bought the IC4 because of this video even though the Sunny is in stock but the IC4 is not. I will be using the Peloton app.
Awesome! Hope it comes in sooner than later and you enjoy it John!
Thank you for the reviews. I couldn't find either bike, or the cadence sensor at your affiliate links (sold out), but just picked up the SH SF-B1913 with the pedals, computer with everything except bluetooth for only $599 (Plus Tax + S&H ) I already have a fitbit and Polar H10 but I may add the Wahoo CM when they come back in stock. Do you have a Ko-Fi I can tip you at for the great advice? I have been TH-cam Redding all of your videos.
That is great to hear Brent! Virtually everything is sold out right now so it is awesome to hear you were able to put together a great solution. Does admitting I had to Google what Ko-Fi was answer your question? Haha, but that is super nice of you and I really appreciate it! Maybe I will look into setting that up at some point, but at this point, just glad you were able to find some good equipment! Enjoy it!
Brent I just ordered the b1913. How do you like it? I never owned a spin bike before.
Great video. I just bought the sunny with your link.new sub👍
Thank you! Congrats and hope you really enjoy it!
Very Comprehensive review and helpful video!! I really appreciate your review as well.
I am looking at the SF-B1709 and it does come with all the digital monitoring that are missing on the SF-B1805. The flywheel is in the back and the weight is only 7.36 lbs. It cost the same on Amazon for $599 right now. Do you have any thoughts about SF-B1709 and light flywheel on the back? Thanks again!
Thank you so much Ar Kai! I tested the Echelon which has the flywheel in the back and it did not seem to change anything, so I don't think that really matters. The big thing for me is that I have not tested one of these lighter flywheel options. It could be fantastic but I just don't know and don't want to misguide you. I am hoping to do some testing of those models down the road as I want to know how they compare to heavier flywheel models. Good luck and sorry I don't have a great answer... yet.
I’ve been waiting for your review of these two bikes. Exactly what I’d hoped for...and....I am still on the fence LOL! If there was a way to see resistance on the Sunny...
Haha! It is a touch decision! If you have any questions or things I may be able to help with throw them at me!
LearnWithTravis My ONLY hang up is the resistance display. How do you find moving from [example] being told go to 60 from say 40? How do you know where you’re at on the Sunny?
You don't...exactly. But, you can still get a pretty good idea. For example, many instructors will describe a resistance of 30 as flat road. So You can dial the resistance around until it is comparable to a flat road or slight resistance. From there, you can figure out how many turns it takes until it feel more like a steep hill climb which may represent a resistance of 70 or so. Or you could spin the resistance until you get to the max so you know how many turns between 30 and 100. This will help give you a ball park of how much to turn it for various changes. I know when reading this, it may sound difficult or like too much work, but it is really not that bad if you are leaning towards the Sunny. So many people have done this and are very happy with their workout and ability to still match the Peloton instructors.
@@Learnwithtravis Well, the fact that I can't find the IC4 anywhere...that is helping my choice. :)
@@mattlomeli I suppose it would! They seem to have a hard time keeping it in stock.
So can Kayleigh cohen cycling . Great programs.
Thanks for this great review! Given the positive review of the B1805, would you be comfortable with a higher end model from Sunny, such as the B1913? It has a sensor and a 46 lb flywheel. It's in stock at Dick's with $300 off. There does not appear to be many reviews on other models
I have not tested that model myself, but Sunny has a good track record. I rarely see people have bad things to say about them. The model you mentioned seems very close to the model I tested but with a few quality upgrades. I have no reason to think it would not be a great bike! I don't think it has a cadence sensor, so if you plan to use Peloton DIgital, you may want that. Hope that helps!
Thanks for the video! I'm a spinner at the gym, but they are closed due to the Pandemic. I realized I need to get a bike for home use.
No problem at all and hope you find something great!
Travis thanks for all the videos. Do you have any suggestions (or maybe a good video idea) on how best to use the IC4/SUNNY and the peloton app without Apple. As I understand you can't sync a heart rate monitor and cadence sensor to the peloton app on a Android or Firestick. the IC4 having the realtime display is great and I guess you can do it with the Sunny and some add ons. But what app would you recommend records the heart rate and cadence sensor (maybe speed too) of a work out and display's ones progress overtime. Looking for another method to keep my motivation up. I think you had a video about the fitbit and how you can dump peloton data to it bu no real deep dive
I have mostly used the IOS devices but you are right about a video idea for Android devices. It might be a little while before I can get to it. So hitting up Peloton chat might get you a quicker answer but I will start playing around with Android. Good luck!
Thanks - great review. Question - when you reference the Peloton App which is compatible with the IC4 do you mean the $12.95/month digital app or the $39 all access app? Thanks again
Thanks Bob! The Peloton App (Peloton Digital) that you use with the IC4 is the 12.95 a month option. You only pay the 39 a month price when you are on an actual Peloton.
@@Learnwithtravis Thank you! You do a great job - very much appreciated
@@weisberger1 Appreciate it and my pleasure!
How does the sunny 1851 compare to the Schwinn Ic4? A must have for me is that the resistance knob match with the peloton as I want to use the app. I’ve ordered an IC4 and my gut says just to wait out the 6 weeks...but I really want a bike sooner than that! I appreciate your time! Great and helpful video!
It is a nice bike but I don't think the resistance matches up or has a display to tell you what resistance you are at. Based on your comment I would wait for the IC4 as that sounds like the bike for you. Hang in there! 😀
LearnWithTravis thank you so much. I really appreciate you! Your advise and opinions are priceless!
Thanks for the awesome video, exactly the type of info I needed. I had 99% decided on a Peloton, then researched and realized trying the app with a less pricey bike would be a better way to start out. Then decided on the Schwinn, but it just dropped off Amazon, so I looked at the Bowflex version, but it's $150 more and sounds like a 1-2 month delivery time? Was wondering if the Sunny was a comparable/worthy choice and from this vid, sounds like it's a solid bike. At this point I'm just hoping I can get something shipped in a decent amount of time, lol.
Glad to hear the video helped you out Gary! I know the SF-B1805 from my video goes in and out of stock a lot, so keep on eye out. Another model I know a lot of people get is currently in stock: amzn.to/2UoFxb9
Whatever you go with, hope you love it! Remember, the Sunny does not come with any of the connectivity options the C6 has, so a cadence monitor and HRM can enhance the ride. th-cam.com/video/h341iQ62iho/w-d-xo.html
Hey Gary, I just noticed the IC4 was in stock! amzn.to/3h5FwCL
@@Learnwithtravis Sweet! Just got an order in for it, scheduled for next Tuesday delivery. Pretty stoked to add something new to my cardio routine.
@@garybeltrand5802 Awesome! Congrats and enjoy!
Thank you so much for your video -- I found this very helpful! Could you please kindly share your thoughts about the IC4 vs Bowflex c6. I really appreciate your time! :)
Great to hear Helen! From everything I understand, the IC4 and C6 are identical, just re-branded for different companies under the same parent company. For this reason, I have a really hard time recommending the C6 knowing the IC4 is the same bike but 100 dollars cheaper.
Sunny B1805 have a Smart version now at $799. If it was $700 maybe it sway me more so just getting the regular B1805
Nice! Will have to look into that one!
After watching your review I was thinking i would go with the IC4 because of all features, but i noticed that Dicks sporting good has the Sunny SF-B1913 which has a monitor for speed, cadence, distance, calories, time, and pulse. It seems like an upgrade to the model you reviewed. The current price is 599.99 plus 85.00 for shipping. So now I am leaning to the Sunny SF-B1913 and was wondering if you have checked this model out and had any thoughts on it. Thanks for your great reviews.
Thanks Mark! I have had my eye on that one to review, as I agree that it looks like a nice improvement. That price seems great as it is listed for 799 on the Sunny website. The big difference between that model and the IC4 is that you will not have your resistance displayed so make sure you are okay with that. While I have not reviewed the 1913 yet, it seems like a really nice model.
Travis, thanks for the awesome comparison. I'm almost sold on the sunny 1805. ill be using the peloton app - what is the best way to adjust the resistance based on what the instructor is calling for? thats the only thing i like about the ic4 in comparison (having that display gauge). thanks!
Thanks Scott! I turn the resistance all the way to 0 and then count how many half turns until max resistance. This helps me to understand what a half turn equates to. You can then estimate your resistance and make adjustments close to what they are requesting. After a while you gain a feel for what different resistance levels feel like.
@@Learnwithtravis thank you for the quick reply!
Even though the Sunny is cheaper. One of the most important thing about a bike is the warranty service. Schwinn, from several reviews I see online seem to have really good reviews on warranty and customer service. I looked at Proform and Myx reviews and they both don't seem to have good customer service when it comes to dealing with warranty. I don't know about Sunny though. When something goes wrong, I have to trust the manufacturer will take care of my problems well.
Very good point and glad you are finding good info and who you trust and don't. Hope you end up very happy with whatever you do decide!
Love the video and want to try the Sunny, but is there an add-on I can purchase for the 1805 distance monitoring if I don't use a device/iPad/Peleton app? Thanks for your videos!
Thanks H Sapre. I didn't play with it much, but the Wahoo app you can use with the Wahoo sensors displays distance. I am not sure if this comes from the cadence or speed sensor and usually you only use the cadence sensor with spins bikes. I would research Wahoo a little but and see if that works for you. Very good products.
Thank you for the very helpful review! I went with the Sunny based on your comments. Making a decision was not easy with so many mid range options out there, e.g., Joroto, Yosuda, Pooboo etc. Would you mind sharing how to arrived at these two models to review? I just ordered the Sunny today so my question is moot and really just to make me feel better about my purchase, LOL!
Haha, sure thing! I follow the Peloton forums and whenever the topic of best bikes for Peloton Digital came up, the majority talked about using Sunny and how much they loved it. So I knew they were a great option already. I grabbed one to review and learned they were right. A very solid option for the price point. The IC4 is a nice bike as well and it depends on what features and functionality are important to you, but so many people have used the Sunny for this setup and been very happy. Congrats Bill and hope you love it!
@@Learnwithtravis Good stuff, thanks again!
This is awesome! What about the Sunny SF-B1913? Trying to find the best BYO bike that will pair with Peloton digital easily. I thought the Schwinn IC4 seemed like a great option, but will take a couple of months to get.
Thanks Kate! That looks like a really nice bike. I think that model may depend on how you plan to use it. If you are going to ride on your own (no Peloton Digital), I think it could be great. If you want to pair with Peloton Digital, their may be better options. Don't get me wrong, that is still a very nice bike and could work great. My concern is the price point for the extras you get over the model I reviewed in this video. The flywheel is the same (if my memory is right), but it has the pulse sensor (not a fan), and the display that does not really add to Peloton digital (no resistance display). It does have clip in pedals which is nice, but overall I don't feel like the features that increase the price pair well with Peloton Digital. Stand-alone, that is another story. Hope that helps!
This was a very thorough comparison. Thanks.
Thank you EricTheRed!
Travis, I love the details of your videos. I've been trying to decide on a bike for two months. I thought the IC4 would be a good choice but today i saw it next to a IC3. The IC3 has a same build but has friction resistance and a less dynamic display. The smoothness of the resistance of the IC3 stood out over the IC4. I thought the IC4 at mid to high resistance was not smooth and as you turn it higher it was rather irregular. At the highest setting the IC4 was still functional but the IC3 (with the friction pad) was very restrictive. Is this typical difference between magnetic resistance and friction resistance? Thanks!
Not necessarily. It comes down to how each version is calibrated (and other factors). For example, with magnetic resistance, how close are the magnets getting and how strong are the magnets. Different bikes have very different top end resistance feels. With the IC4, they seem to be inconsistent with how they are calibrated. Many have used a calibration document to correct it and improve that top end resistance. Mine was the same way though and top end resistance was lower a lot of other options. Thanks Dan!
How does the Schwinn IC3 compare to the Sunny bike? It seems as though the IC3 is the IC4 minus the features you mentioned and is cheaper than the Sunny.
I have not looked into the IC3 too much, but at a quick glance it looks like the IC4 without some of the connectivity options that let you connection of to Peloton Digital\Zwift. The IC4 has a slightly smaller flywheel than the Sunny model I usually talk about. The IC3 appears to be a little smaller than the IC4. I have not tested it, but I would guess it is still a solid bike.
Very informative video, keep going with quality stuff!
Will do. Thanks!
Travis, I’ve been watching a ton of videos trying to decide which bike to get to supplement my NordicTrack S22i in a different location and this has been, by far, the most well done and thought out that I’ve seen so thanks so much. I am leaning toward the IC4 but need to make sure that I can use my iFit app (don’t want to have to purchase the Peleton app as well). Do you know if I can?
Thanks Dave! From what I understand, you can still put the iFit app on your tablet and do manual rides. There is no integration between the IC4 and iFit (cadence
ide sharing) but you can still follow the content and get credit for the ride. Hope that helps!
That does help, thank you. Do you happen to know of another great bike in this price range that would integrate with iFit? Otherwise, at their $1,499 Black Friday price,I may just get another S22i.
So, Stryde is the option that lets you install iFit right into the attached monitor. I don’t think iFit gathers any info from the bike but you can do your iFit rides right on the screen. I love the Stryde but considering you already know you love the S22i and the price dropped… it feels like that might be the most seamless option to junk into. Another iFit option is the proform studio pro 22.
Have not come across those yet but will also look into them. Thanks for all of your help and suggestions. Will let you know how it all shakes out!
No problem at all! Good luck!
Hi! I just was wondering- when you talk about noise for the IC4- are you talking about the frame noise when out of the saddle? I got an IC4 in August and have been experimenting with trying to fix the frame creaking noise. A couple of things that helped - I changed out my mat to a thin rubber type mat instead of a thicker foam mat. Also, I put some rubberized electrical tape at the front holes for the bolts before setting the bike onto the frame and put a little 3-1 oil in the hole and rebolted it. So far it seems to be better. Let me know if you have found any other fixes for that. Great video! Thx
I believe I was talking about noise coming from the flywheel. It was minor but worth pointing out. I don't think I had the creaks you referred to but glad you were able to make them better!
Clear, thorough, logical, I like your vids :)
Thank you so much Simoni1203! I truly appreciate that!
Hi Travis, just getting started with a spin bike trying to research it and found your channel really enjoy your reviews. I haven’t seen any reviews on the pro form bikes are they not worth looking at? I am quiet confused with all the brands and features to choose from, help
Hello Christina! Pro Form could be great. It is new so not too many reviews exist yet. I will probably try to get one next year. Lets see if we can narrow this down for you. Are you looking for a budget solution or all inclusive (think Peloton with attached monitor)? What type of content do you like? (Scenic, studio, calm instructors, intense motivators, SPA feel versus club) Last, how difficult of rides do you want to do? (light rides vs push you to your limits)
@@Learnwithtravis hi Travis thanks for replying! I am not sure what I am looking for that’s why it’s confusing,, looking for something strong mid range priced and a strong frame. I would like something that my husband could also use if he wanted to, he is tall and I and short so probably a hard combo ☺️. I would like to have the option of connecting to an app to do the rides and other classes but I don’t necessarily need the monitor because I do have an iPad and a large tv in the room. I don’t need anything very strenuous I am 59 and I am doing exercise to lower cholesterol and try to stay healthy. Right now I am using the pro form elliptical and walking about 2 to 3 miles in between, I do need some motivation so the interaction would be great to push me a bit. Thank u again for you help
@@cristinacalderon4543 So, the classic use your own device is the IC4. It has a resistance display and cadence sensor for using the Peloton app on an Apple device. That would probably be the best option for using your own tablet. After that, the MYX fitness is a great one because it has a lot of the nice feature at a good price point (quality bike, attached monitor, swivel monitor for off bike workouts, good mix of zen like content). Last would be the original Peloton. Get all of the goodness of Peloton but at a reduced price because the Bike+ came out. I will say having an attached monitor is nice because there is one less step and you can immerse yourself into the ride more. Give the MYX a look.
@@Learnwithtravis thank you for all the good info! The only thing about the MYX is that it’s not magnetic and the noise might be to much, any other suggestions on a lower priced with good features? The peloton is very nice and that’s what I was thinking when I started looking at them but I am afraid to invest and find out that I won’t use it as much as I should. I do agree with you that something with a monitor might be more friendly to use not so many steps
Any thoughts on the sunny health and fitness B1986?
Great comparison review. Thank you!
Thank you so much Naomidga!
Travis What affordable bike computer would you suggest for someone who does not own a smart phone or tablet? I appreciate your reviews on both the Sunny SB1805 and the Schwinn IC4. If I decide to go with the Sunny bike in your review I would need a bike computer and wahoo cadence per your suggestions. Please let me know your thoughts on a bike computer. I'm noticing that most are not able to be used with indoor stationary bike. I look forward to your thoughts.
Hey Nora! The first link below is to the Peloton Digital website that shows different options for streaming their content. If you want to get the full experience (Cadence and Heart Rate info displayed), then I would go with an iPad. That is what I have tested with and they worked really well (Second link if you want to check it out... there are multiple iPad versions so shop around)
www.onepeloton.com/app
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Just a heads up for people who live in Canada and ordering through amazon. There are a bunch of reviews that Sunny will not honor their warranty on this bike outside of the US. I can tell you that was the case with an elipitical I purchased from them about a year ago, and had to have amazon take it back.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Great video, I'm 6'6" with a 34" inseam, do you think the ic4 would be a problem for taller riders?
Thanks McNormy69! It has been a while since I was on that bike, but I believe I felt like I had quite a bit of room at 6'3". I also believe their website states it supports people up to 6'6". So, you would be right at their published limit but guessing... I think you would fit.
@@Learnwithtravis Thank you