Happy new year! Thank you for watching and supporting this channel! Chapters listed: 0:00 intro 2:29 resistance 3:11 a big difference 4:45 ic4 problem 1 7:29 adjustability comfort 9:27 seats 10:19 handlebars 12:10 tablet holders 13:10 water bottle holders 13:55 ic4 problem 2 15:07 saddle height measurements 15:20 handlebar max height 16:00 sunny sf-b1805 ride 16:40 minumum resistance 17:16 schwinn ic4 ride comments 17:51 minimum resistance and inertia comparison 19:15 ic4 water bottle problem 19:57 sunny medium resistance 20:47 a downside of 1805 22:00 knee clearance 23:02 schwinn ic4 medium resistance 23:30 ic4 max resistance 24:05 1805 max resistance 25:20 max resistance comments 25:45 heart rate compare 26:14 final thoughts
Just ordered the 1805 through your link for $442. In stock with 2 day shipping. Decided to go the complete DIY route. Even adding the wahoo sensor, scoche heart rate monitor, weights and a mat, I still only ended up at $600 (a couple hundred less than the Schwinn). Thank you for all of the helpful information to feel confident with this choice!
Great video. I really appreciate all you do. The 1805 is king in my book. I bought some dual sided pedals from Amazon a while back so that I could clip in and they were only $49.99 and work great. I use a plastic shower caddy to hold my weights. It just slides down the middle portion of the handlebars and I can easily reach. It doesn't interfere with my ride at all. I ride in front of a tv and use the tablet holder for my phone and remote. Before using the shower caddy, I was going to order a set of water bottle holders for my weights. I haven't come across any cost effective weight holders. Happy New Year to you and yours.
@Ashley McFadden Girl I gotta make it work. I looked back on Amazon and could not find those pedals. I bought them in July for another bike but they were the Ybeki SPD Hybrid pedals. You may be able to find them somewhere else. Happy riding.
@Dianna Payne I have gotten rid of the shower caddy and now use single Over the door hooks that I got from the Dollar Tree. They work so much better and I can move them about. I can hold up to 5lb weights without issue. The caddy was something I purchased years ago and have no idea where I purchased it. Sorry. Check out the hooks though. They really are perfect.
TailHappyTV, your reviews of these bikes are INCREDIBLY helpful, and I am borderline addicted to watching them, haha. I had it narrowed down to the Sunny B1805 with a Wahoo cadence sensor, but now the predicament... From what I can tell using the compare feature on Sunny's website, and outside of very slight dimension, inseam, and Q-Factor differences, the new B1913 (or Training Cycling Bike as Sunny refers to it) is literally the exact same bike as the B1805, but upgraded with two items... 1 - Digital Monitor with speed, cadence, and pulse (heart rate using handlebar pulse grips), but still no resistance. 2 - Cage/SPD compatible pedals. I am happy they are not messing with a good design (even appears to have identical handlebars), only improving on the missing features, and this would seem to be a close competitor to the Schwinn IC4. However I am sure the downside will be price (currently $799 from Sunny's site). I cannot find it anywhere else at the moment, not even Amazon (maybe it's too new?). I am so torn, because the 1805 just returned to $599 (after the $170 increase last week) and I was just about to pull the trigger today. But now I'm thinking I should wait until the B1913 is released on Amazon, ect. to see what the price difference is. Also, the B1805 is listed as "sold out" on Sunny's website, so I'm wondering if they will be discontinuing it at some point and it will become hard to find. It looks like it was released about 2.5 years ago. Interested in your thoughts?
I have the IC4. It's a nice bike. The resistance and mph are not accurate out of the box. However i did find a calibration procedure that will fix the weak resistance and inaccurate mph. I used to be able to pedal thru the maximum resistance while doing intervals, but since recalibrating the console i can't even get to the maximum resistance. I have put around 600 miles on the bike so far with no problems.
Can you post a link to the doc/procedure you followed to re-calibrate ? I found the PDF by Nautilus for it but wasn't sure if that wad the same. Would appreciate if you can post. Thanks
I wanted to thank you for this comprehensive review of both these bikes. I was originally leaning toward the IC4 (I'm a techie that likes gadgets), but decided on the Sunny SF-B1805 after watching all your videos on them both. I will be a complete cycling newbie (I road a mountain bike like 20 years ago) and chose the better ride and lower cost over the electronics that I may not really need as well as the possibility of some of the slight issues you and others have had with the IC4. Even adding the cadence sensor and picking up a nice HRM, the Sunny "package" is still like $200 cheaper than the Schwinn! I know it's not much, but I used your link to purchase it. It's back down to it's "normal" price of $599 and was in stock for delivery same week, which is great. I'm so glad I stumbled on your reviews and comparisons. Keep making great content!
Great video. I've been in the market and looking for a spin bike for about a month (have not decided yet because I have some great exercise equipment available in the meantime, and trying not to spend $2k on a Peloton). I'm down to three bikes, the Costco Echolon S4, 1805 and IC4. Trying to stay around $1k, but price is not an issue, just tryin get get best price/value. So, I keep going back and forth - your videos are not helping my waffling (thanks for doing these by the way, a lot of time and effort goes into developing content like this). Based on this latest video, I think Sunny 1805 is a great option. I need to solve for the computer tho, if I can get an onboard computer, like a cateye (see cheap computers on Amazon for under $50), or something that is fixed to the bike that would be great. I want to be able to have anyone jump on the bike and use it without configuring an app. Getting a resistance level is nice to have as well because it's good to see overtime if your progressing with higher resistance, maybe next Sunny 1805 iteration will have something?? Any plans to compare the 1805 to the Echolon S4??
Thanks for all the great reviews. After watching many of your review videos I settled on the Sunny SF-B1805 and was happy to order it through your link!
Really love all your very detailed comparison videos. It would be great if you made a video comparing the iFit app vs the peloton app for people with non iFit/peloton bikes. I've used the peloton app for a long time with my Sunny bike but recently checked out iFit and was blown away. Those real life location guided rides and hikes are incredible. I can't believe more people aren't using the iFit app. And for under 30 bux a month total, I like having both. And I've tried both apps on my phone and on my Fire TV and it's interesting to see the difference in terms of data shown on the screens. Anyway, if you are trying to find content for more videos, I think the two app comparison (in detail) would be great.
@@TailHappyTV ps since the Fire tv app doesn't show the incline level suggested, my little hack is to have it playing on my phone and on my tv at the same time, and I just sync them up. I can watch the big tv for the view, but glance down at my phone to know what incline I should be on. (This is for treadmill but it works for bike rides too)
Thanks for your review! I used your link to get the Sunny. I was first trying for the Schwinn but it will be 3 weeks before it ships and the Sunny will arrive in 2 days. I like to bike outside but live in the North and want to get in biking ready shape before spring bike season so I wanted something sooner.
Sunny has released so many different versions of the 1805 now they have the smart 1805 that connects to a app and has a display dumbell holder and a new sensor like the wahoo cadence and speed sensor so it pretty much matches with the Schwinn iC4
@@tambamthankyoumaam1437 I have the older 1805 it was on sale on black Friday for 200 dollars last year so I would keep a look out for upcoming sales it's basically the same bike I bought the sunny cadence sensor. The bike is great . Lowest I've seen the current new smart sunny 1805 we as for 570 on prime day so just check out sales for black Friday
Thank you! Thank you so much for sharing your experience. You touched on every significant issue and helped me be more informed as a new spin cyclist. As a runner who slipped on black ice this week, a spin bike would give me a great cardio experience with much less risk and I can even plant it in front of an air conditioner in the summer! Great video!
Thank you so much for these videos! They are informative, engaging, and easy to watch. After enjoying your channel for several days, we think we’ve narrowed our choice down to the 1805 and the IC4, however I have a really quick question: Can you tell if the emergency stop pad (between the magnets - used when you hard press the resistance knob) on the IC4 is leather (like on the 1805) or rubber/foam? We would like to avoid leather, and so a rubber pad on the IC4 would make all the difference. Thanks so much!
Just a quick update, in case anyone else out there had this question (though, I'm likely the only one lol): I contacted the manufacturer, and they said that the "Emergency brake pad" on the Schwinn IC4 (as well as the identical Bowflex C6) is made out of heavy foam. So there is no leather, or any other animal products on this bike :)
Your videos have really helped me! I just ordered the Sunny from your link. I'm so excited to get riding. Thank you for how you present everything!!!😁😍
Hi I know sunny just came out with a 1805 smart bike. Do you think you will be reviewing this. I would like too buy through your links and support your really great reviews
Great video. Another small thing to consider. I believe the IC4 has a usb to charge your device while using it. The Sunny is no longer $600 to on Amazon. Currently they have a Sunny that is pretty much the same as the 1805 for $600 at Dicks.
Thank you for the very detailed information!! Just bought the Sunny bike using your link. Not only does it seem like a very solid bike, but it is actually in stock and will be at my house this Friday. In comparison, the Schwinn and other pricier bikes like the Peleton are taking a minimum of 8 weeks to show up... so thanks and I feel very confident in my choice after watching your content. Cheers!
Awesome review. Do you have a recommendation for which bike to get. Budget of $600-$800. Things that are important to me include the following - magnetic resistance - large tablet holder - caged/spd pedals I’ve been eyeing the sunny synergy pro. I would prefer to buy a bike from your links to support the channel
This was a great video. I have watched your other videos as well and settled on the Sunny using your link. I am a beginning rider and looking forward to beginning my journey on this as the treadmill isn't working on my knee joints (closing in on 60yo). I also purchased the wahoo via your link. Thanks again!!! Happy to support your work in these videos! Will see about the pedals next time. Happy New Year!
Very nice review. I’m a Zwifter, haven’t really looked into Peloton at all. I already pay $14.95 a month for Zwift. My plan was to get a Sunny and then hook it up with both cadence and speed sensors and then replace the left crank shaft with a Stages power meter so that I can Zwift. I’m trying to save wear and tear on my carbon bike frames since I am a larger individual who puts a lot of stress on a frame when I stand up. The extra cost of the supplemental sensors is supposed to be offset by the benefit of the reported heavier flywheel and therefore increased potential resistance over the IC4. The problem has been finding out the length of the Sunny crank shaft. I already have a crankshaft power meter on my road bike that I ride only in the spring and summer that I could switch out during the winter with the Sunny but they have to be the same length. I’m worried that the IC4 won’t provide enough resistance given that every video I’ve watched has stated that the Sunny provides harder resistance. I’ve been going back and forth for a few weeks now. I think I’ll just go with the IC4 because the power meter is already built in and that’s very very difficult to find in a bike at that price. I am also 6’2” and a little heavier and older but it was great to hear and see one video where banging the knees against the water bottle holder wasn’t really an issue. If it is, I will just detach it. I have a table beside my workout area. I really enjoyed your video. Thank you for taking the time to make it.
The IC4 doesn't have actually have a built-in power meter, though. I called Schwinn's customer support about two weeks ago and asked them about it after seeing this vid, because the built-in display does not include the power metric, and yet there's that table of third party apps on their website (3:27 in the video) and some of them will display power for you. But they are not actually getting the power data from the bike, they're getting resistance and cadence and then they use an algorithm to calculate power.
Thank you for producing these informative videos. Can't locate a 1805 anywhere under $769. Long gone on Sunny website. For the closeness in price, the Bowflex C6, Schwinn IC4 maybe a better deal now.
What an amazing and detailed review! You are very thorough which is greatly appreciated by me. New subscriber here because of this video! I look forward to watching your other videos. Thanks!
In summary the 1805 is the better bike, the Schwinn has built in electronics that pair with multiple apps. I picked the Schwinn almost entirely because the resistance level display (my adhd demands it from me), but I know the 1805 is the more solid rig.
Well, i think I'm getting closer to making a decision. There are so many choices out there. Peleton is way too expensive. I kind of like the ic4 as it gives me the option to connect to a few different digital apps, but not sure I like all the stuff in the way or the pedal coming loose issue. I do like how the ic4 has everything included. Any other reasonably priced bikes that would be similar to the ic4, without some of the annoyances? Love your videos, very informative!
Thanks Matt for your excellent reviews! FYI, BEFORE buying the 1805: the Amazon price jumped this morning by $170 (to $770). It's now only $30 cheaper than Sunny's newer model of the same bike, the sf-b1913 (in stock on sunnyhealthfitness.com, with free shipping), which includes a monitor (with cadence, but not resistance), pulse sensor, and sdp clips. See yourexercisebike.com/sunny-health-fitness-sf-b1913-review/ No brainer to get the 1913 and save yourself the hassle and $ of buying separate clips, cadence sensor and pulse monitor ... or wait until Amazon gets real on the 1805 price (hint, hint).
Dean, I've narrowed it down to the 1805 and 1913. Are you able to find the 1913 anywhere else besides Sunny's website? It is $799 there, and I can't decide if an extra $200 is worth it just for the monitor and clips. I was hoping to find it cheaper on Amazon. Not seeing it at Dicks (even 2 weeks ago when I first saw these comments), unless I'm missing something. $600 for the 1913 (according to @Ern ie) would be a no brainer. Sounds too good to be true.
@@goodwillguru Dick's just put the 1913 back on sale for $599, but also raised the shipping cost from the normal $40 charge to $85 (net of $15 credit). I received the bike within 3 days, and I love it. No complaints whatsoever.
I really want an IC4, but the left pedal issues are very concerning. Some people say that installing different pedals can solve the issue. It would be very good if you can try that, even if just moving the SF-B1805 to the IC4.
Thank you for another great video! Would love to see some Canadian recommendations available on amazon such as the Chaoke, pyhigh, etc. We never have popular brands like joroto, pooboo, sunny 1805
Awesome comparison of the two bikes!! I've enjoyed all your videos. Is there a manufacturer who makes just the SPD clip bracket that can be installed later on the pedals rather than swapping out the whole pedal for an SPD preconfigured one?
@@TailHappyTV Great! Thanks for the lead. Keep up the awesome reviews! BTW, the SF-B1805 has a Q Factor of 182mm I believe. I'm use to riding the Schwinn Carbon Blue at the local gym. Hoping I get a similar ride as that is a nice bike.
Not sure if you check these still, but if you do, it seems the 1805 is a lot better than the ic4, except the features/electronic, right? So if I get a Wahoo cadence, does that allow me to do connect to apps and essentially be the same as the ic4? Thanks
Sorry, but my English is not perfect and I couldn't understand well about this device (Wahoo Sensor Cadence). Can it make us connect to Zwift, for example?
There's a newer version of the Sunny bike the 1815 model with a 40lb wheel and with a basic info panel and pulse-sensing grips. Would you still go with the older model because of the heavier flywheel?
Thanks for the review . Should I worry about the health warning that the sunny bike has ? I really want to buy it but after reading the warning ⚠️ what exactly is it ? And where does it contain that harmful chemical(s)
Getting closer to making my selection and your videos have been waaayy helpful. Or... maybe I'll wait for your girl to make you choose between your bikes and her so I can get one from you at a good discount. LOL!!😀
Great comparison! Leaning towards the Sunny b-1805 but I recently stumbled upon the Women’s Health / Men’s Health Indoor Cycling Exercise Bike. The price is right but curious is you had a chance to look into that bike or even test it out? Thank you for putting in all this time and effort, really helps!
Looks like copyright infringement by a knockoff company. That logo is taken from the Men's Health magazine but this bike does not appear to be made by Mens Health or Womens Health, or have anything to do with them other then stamping that logo on the bike frame.
I understand it might be hard to give an answer because you are super tall, but if you were reviewing for a very small person like myself (5’ 00” and a little over 100lbs.) what would you think? I obviously wouldn’t need such an extremely high resistance level because I don’t have that extra weight of a tall person. Also, being pretty short do you think my knees would still hit the water bottles? I of course have the opposite problem of a tall person so it would be interesting to see you work with someone on a video comparison of bikes with a short person. I do like the idea of having the electronics already built in but I have a garmin and even when I go to spin classes at my local gym I have to manually enter in my info after class because although I have the ability to use my watch for indoor cycling I believe I would need the cadence sensor for my bike for it to register to my watch.
Is there a SPEED sensor that you'd recommend for a flywheel spin bike that is also compatible with the Wahoo app? I get the cadence sensor, but can't seem to find one for SPEED. Thanks, in advance. Ken Also, can you review the L NOW Pooboo DL501 in the near future? Thanks, again.
How does the positioning of the device holder compare for the two bikes? It looks like your tablet might be closer to you on the Sunny B1805 than on the Schwinn ic4, making it easier to touch and manipulate the screen on the Sunny. Is that the case?
I’m ready to purchase however I’m confused with all the Sunny bike models- I’m curious to know why you chose the 1805? I see what looks to be a newer model called the 1877 that’s $325. The 1805 is $600. It’s confusing.
You're right, there are a lot of choices lol, it was a hard decision. A few things I see right away, the 1877 has a single magnet stack above the flywheel, usually this style magnet does not create as much resistance as dual magnet stacks that "pinch" the flywheel based on my observations and experience. Also the flywheel on the 1877 is 29lbs vs 44lbs on the 1805.
@@TailHappyTV I would have never known that as a noob. Lol thank you for all your help. Purchased the 1805 off one of your links! Arrives this Sunday. 😬
Hi I’m Kevin I wanted to know what bike do you recommend? I don’t want anything expensive but not give off that cheap feel and i was looking at the sunny bike can you give me some advice and thank you?!?!?!
The sunny bike is rated at a maximum weight of 300 pounds, while the ic4 is rated for 330 pounds. Do you think there's really a significant difference. I weigh right around 300 pounds, and am wondering if that would be a reason to choose the ic4.
Please suggest what Sunny bike you would recommend with electronics, cup holder, tablet or phone holder, and a comfortable seat. I truly appreciate your feedback sir!!
How important do you think it is for some kind of resistance numbers for a beginner? I’m just afraid my wife will get discouraged if she accidentally sets her resistance too high and can’t finish a class vs knowing her resistance is a specific number and what her max difficulty she can handle is and being able to consistently set to same resistance.
I’m looking for a bike to use with Apple fitness and the Sunny bike seems look a good fit. Is knowing the resistance number at all times really important though?
Not at all, especially for apple fitness+. I think the 1805 is probably my favorite best bang for the buck and quality recommendation for apple fitness+. Fitness+ does not even give resistance numbers, they do call out cadence. Cadence and heart rate tracking and power are the most important metrics in my opinion.
Don't mean to be a jerk but in almost every review you seem to need to tell us how tall you are multiple times. Yes you're 6'5" and that's great but that is much taller than the average person so good to hear once in awhile but it's almost like you're ego regarding height is more important than the review. It fits tall people great. Move on! Otherwise your channel is great. Keep up the good work!
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Chapters listed:
0:00 intro
2:29 resistance
3:11 a big difference
4:45 ic4 problem 1
7:29 adjustability comfort
9:27 seats
10:19 handlebars
12:10 tablet holders
13:10 water bottle holders
13:55 ic4 problem 2
15:07 saddle height measurements
15:20 handlebar max height
16:00 sunny sf-b1805 ride
16:40 minumum resistance
17:16 schwinn ic4 ride comments
17:51 minimum resistance and inertia comparison
19:15 ic4 water bottle problem
19:57 sunny medium resistance
20:47 a downside of 1805
22:00 knee clearance
23:02 schwinn ic4 medium resistance
23:30 ic4 max resistance
24:05 1805 max resistance
25:20 max resistance comments
25:45 heart rate compare
26:14 final thoughts
Just ordered the 1805 through your link for $442. In stock with 2 day shipping. Decided to go the complete DIY route. Even adding the wahoo sensor, scoche heart rate monitor, weights and a mat, I still only ended up at $600 (a couple hundred less than the Schwinn). Thank you for all of the helpful information to feel confident with this choice!
Really appreciate all the sf-b1805 comparison videos!! I got mine a couple days and love it.
Great video. I really appreciate all you do. The 1805 is king in my book. I bought some dual sided pedals from Amazon a while back so that I could clip in and they were only $49.99 and work great. I use a plastic shower caddy to hold my weights. It just slides down the middle portion of the handlebars and I can easily reach. It doesn't interfere with my ride at all. I ride in front of a tv and use the tablet holder for my phone and remote. Before using the shower caddy, I was going to order a set of water bottle holders for my weights. I haven't come across any cost effective weight holders. Happy New Year to you and yours.
@Ashley McFadden Girl I gotta make it work. I looked back on Amazon and could not find those pedals. I bought them in July for another bike but they were the Ybeki SPD Hybrid pedals. You may be able to find them somewhere else. Happy riding.
@Ashley McFadden Happy New Year to you
@@ronron3847 can you show a picture of what the shower caddy looks like and the link? Thanks!
@Dianna Payne I have gotten rid of the shower caddy and now use single Over the door hooks that I got from the Dollar Tree. They work so much better and I can move them about. I can hold up to 5lb weights without issue. The caddy was something I purchased years ago and have no idea where I purchased it. Sorry. Check out the hooks though. They really are perfect.
TailHappyTV, your reviews of these bikes are INCREDIBLY helpful, and I am borderline addicted to watching them, haha. I had it narrowed down to the Sunny B1805 with a Wahoo cadence sensor, but now the predicament...
From what I can tell using the compare feature on Sunny's website, and outside of very slight dimension, inseam, and Q-Factor differences, the new B1913 (or Training Cycling Bike as Sunny refers to it) is literally the exact same bike as the B1805, but upgraded with two items...
1 - Digital Monitor with speed, cadence, and pulse (heart rate using handlebar pulse grips), but still no resistance.
2 - Cage/SPD compatible pedals.
I am happy they are not messing with a good design (even appears to have identical handlebars), only improving on the missing features, and this would seem to be a close competitor to the Schwinn IC4. However I am sure the downside will be price (currently $799 from Sunny's site). I cannot find it anywhere else at the moment, not even Amazon (maybe it's too new?). I am so torn, because the 1805 just returned to $599 (after the $170 increase last week) and I was just about to pull the trigger today. But now I'm thinking I should wait until the B1913 is released on Amazon, ect. to see what the price difference is. Also, the B1805 is listed as "sold out" on Sunny's website, so I'm wondering if they will be discontinuing it at some point and it will become hard to find. It looks like it was released about 2.5 years ago. Interested in your thoughts?
I have the IC4. It's a nice bike. The resistance and mph are not accurate out of the box. However i did find a calibration procedure that will fix the weak resistance and inaccurate mph. I used to be able to pedal thru the maximum resistance while doing intervals, but since recalibrating the console i can't even get to the maximum resistance. I have put around 600 miles on the bike so far with no problems.
Can you post a link to the doc/procedure you followed to re-calibrate ? I found the PDF by Nautilus for it but wasn't sure if that wad the same. Would appreciate if you can post. Thanks
@@purmll1762 the nautilus procedure is the same one I used. It worked well. Console can only be calibrated 3 times.
I wanted to thank you for this comprehensive review of both these bikes. I was originally leaning toward the IC4 (I'm a techie that likes gadgets), but decided on the Sunny SF-B1805 after watching all your videos on them both. I will be a complete cycling newbie (I road a mountain bike like 20 years ago) and chose the better ride and lower cost over the electronics that I may not really need as well as the possibility of some of the slight issues you and others have had with the IC4. Even adding the cadence sensor and picking up a nice HRM, the Sunny "package" is still like $200 cheaper than the Schwinn!
I know it's not much, but I used your link to purchase it. It's back down to it's "normal" price of $599 and was in stock for delivery same week, which is great. I'm so glad I stumbled on your reviews and comparisons. Keep making great content!
Looks like Sunny has a smart bike option now! I wonder if that could change your recommendation for the price.
Great video. I've been in the market and looking for a spin bike for about a month (have not decided yet because I have some great exercise equipment available in the meantime, and trying not to spend $2k on a Peloton). I'm down to three bikes, the Costco Echolon S4, 1805 and IC4. Trying to stay around $1k, but price is not an issue, just tryin get get best price/value. So, I keep going back and forth - your videos are not helping my waffling (thanks for doing these by the way, a lot of time and effort goes into developing content like this). Based on this latest video, I think Sunny 1805 is a great option. I need to solve for the computer tho, if I can get an onboard computer, like a cateye (see cheap computers on Amazon for under $50), or something that is fixed to the bike that would be great. I want to be able to have anyone jump on the bike and use it without configuring an app. Getting a resistance level is nice to have as well because it's good to see overtime if your progressing with higher resistance, maybe next Sunny 1805 iteration will have something?? Any plans to compare the 1805 to the Echolon S4??
You're incredibly in-depth, absolutely no questions left unturned thank you!!!
Thanks for your comment 😁
Thanks for all the great reviews. After watching many of your review videos I settled on the Sunny SF-B1805 and was happy to order it through your link!
Really love all your very detailed comparison videos. It would be great if you made a video comparing the iFit app vs the peloton app for people with non iFit/peloton bikes. I've used the peloton app for a long time with my Sunny bike but recently checked out iFit and was blown away. Those real life location guided rides and hikes are incredible. I can't believe more people aren't using the iFit app. And for under 30 bux a month total, I like having both. And I've tried both apps on my phone and on my Fire TV and it's interesting to see the difference in terms of data shown on the screens. Anyway, if you are trying to find content for more videos, I think the two app comparison (in detail) would be great.
Listening. On the list, I agree with you. Thank you for the comment and reminder!
@@TailHappyTV ps since the Fire tv app doesn't show the incline level suggested, my little hack is to have it playing on my phone and on my tv at the same time, and I just sync them up. I can watch the big tv for the view, but glance down at my phone to know what incline I should be on. (This is for treadmill but it works for bike rides too)
Thanks for your review! I used your link to get the Sunny. I was first trying for the Schwinn but it will be 3 weeks before it ships and the Sunny will arrive in 2 days. I like to bike outside but live in the North and want to get in biking ready shape before spring bike season so I wanted something sooner.
From a fellow 6'5 person, thank you so much!
Do you have a spreadsheet or chart with your TailHappy scores for each bike reviewed?
Sunny has released so many different versions of the 1805 now they have the smart 1805 that connects to a app and has a display dumbell holder and a new sensor like the wahoo cadence and speed sensor so it pretty much matches with the Schwinn iC4
I was looking to purchase that one, have you used it, do you like it?
@@tambamthankyoumaam1437 I have the older 1805 it was on sale on black Friday for 200 dollars last year so I would keep a look out for upcoming sales it's basically the same bike I bought the sunny cadence sensor. The bike is great . Lowest I've seen the current new smart sunny 1805 we as for 570 on prime day so just check out sales for black Friday
@@techfly3 Thank you!
Thank you! Thank you so much for sharing your experience. You touched on every significant issue and helped me be more informed as a new spin cyclist. As a runner who slipped on black ice this week, a spin bike would give me a great cardio experience with much less risk and I can even plant it in front of an air conditioner in the summer! Great video!
Thank you so much for these videos! They are informative, engaging, and easy to watch.
After enjoying your channel for several days, we think we’ve narrowed our choice down to the 1805 and the IC4, however I have a really quick question: Can you tell if the emergency stop pad (between the magnets - used when you hard press the resistance knob) on the IC4 is leather (like on the 1805) or rubber/foam? We would like to avoid leather, and so a rubber pad on the IC4 would make all the difference. Thanks so much!
Just a quick update, in case anyone else out there had this question (though, I'm likely the only one lol): I contacted the manufacturer, and they said that the "Emergency brake pad" on the Schwinn IC4 (as well as the identical Bowflex C6) is made out of heavy foam. So there is no leather, or any other animal products on this bike :)
Thanks for the great reviews! Just ordered the 1805 through your link!
Your videos have really helped me! I just ordered the Sunny from your link. I'm so excited to get riding. Thank you for how you present everything!!!😁😍
Hi I know sunny just came out with a 1805 smart bike. Do you think you will be reviewing this. I would like too buy through your links and support your really great reviews
Great video. Another small thing to consider. I believe the IC4 has a usb to charge your device while using it. The Sunny is no longer $600 to on Amazon. Currently they have a Sunny that is pretty much the same as the 1805 for $600 at Dicks.
Thank you for the very detailed information!! Just bought the Sunny bike using your link. Not only does it seem like a very solid bike, but it is actually in stock and will be at my house this Friday. In comparison, the Schwinn and other pricier bikes like the Peleton are taking a minimum of 8 weeks to show up... so thanks and I feel very confident in my choice after watching your content. Cheers!
Awesome review. Do you have a recommendation for which bike to get. Budget of $600-$800. Things that are important to me include the following
- magnetic resistance
- large tablet holder
- caged/spd pedals
I’ve been eyeing the sunny synergy pro. I would prefer to buy a bike from your links to support the channel
I’m in a similar spot as you. Did you end up buying a bike yet?
Costco had Echelon ex4s on sale for $799. Best value bike for under $800
This was a great video. I have watched your other videos as well and settled on the Sunny using your link. I am a beginning rider and looking forward to beginning my journey on this as the treadmill isn't working on my knee joints (closing in on 60yo). I also purchased the wahoo via your link. Thanks again!!! Happy to support your work in these videos! Will see about the pedals next time. Happy New Year!
Thank you! Happy riding!
Very nice review. I’m a Zwifter, haven’t really looked into Peloton at all. I already pay $14.95 a month for Zwift. My plan was to get a Sunny and then hook it up with both cadence and speed sensors and then replace the left crank shaft with a Stages power meter so that I can Zwift. I’m trying to save wear and tear on my carbon bike frames since I am a larger individual who puts a lot of stress on a frame when I stand up. The extra cost of the supplemental sensors is supposed to be offset by the benefit of the reported heavier flywheel and therefore increased potential resistance over the IC4. The problem has been finding out the length of the Sunny crank shaft. I already have a crankshaft power meter on my road bike that I ride only in the spring and summer that I could switch out during the winter with the Sunny but they have to be the same length. I’m worried that the IC4 won’t provide enough resistance given that every video I’ve watched has stated that the Sunny provides harder resistance. I’ve been going back and forth for a few weeks now. I think I’ll just go with the IC4 because the power meter is already built in and that’s very very difficult to find in a bike at that price. I am also 6’2” and a little heavier and older but it was great to hear and see one video where banging the knees against the water bottle holder wasn’t really an issue. If it is, I will just detach it. I have a table beside my workout area. I really enjoyed your video. Thank you for taking the time to make it.
The IC4 doesn't have actually have a built-in power meter, though. I called Schwinn's customer support about two weeks ago and asked them about it after seeing this vid, because the built-in display does not include the power metric, and yet there's that table of third party apps on their website (3:27 in the video) and some of them will display power for you. But they are not actually getting the power data from the bike, they're getting resistance and cadence and then they use an algorithm to calculate power.
Thank you for producing these informative videos. Can't locate a 1805 anywhere under $769. Long gone on Sunny website. For the closeness in price, the Bowflex C6, Schwinn IC4 maybe a better deal now.
man, the price literally changed today i think, its been 600 for the longest, maybe wait a few days? not sure
What an amazing and detailed review! You are very thorough which is greatly appreciated by me. New subscriber here because of this video! I look forward to watching your other videos. Thanks!
In summary the 1805 is the better bike, the Schwinn has built in electronics that pair with multiple apps. I picked the Schwinn almost entirely because the resistance level display (my adhd demands it from me), but I know the 1805 is the more solid rig.
Thank you for this comparison. Helped me make up my mind that the sunny is better for me. Can’t wait to use it with wahoo sensors and apple fitness+
awesome! happy riding!
Great review on both bikes ..like the sunny because you can add your own stuff..thanks for your help..I will contact you for more questions..
This is really helpful. Grateful. Seriously considering buying one bike or the other out of the entire universe of stationary bikes for sale.
Well, i think I'm getting closer to making a decision. There are so many choices out there. Peleton is way too expensive. I kind of like the ic4 as it gives me the option to connect to a few different digital apps, but not sure I like all the stuff in the way or the pedal coming loose issue. I do like how the ic4 has everything included. Any other reasonably priced bikes that would be similar to the ic4, without some of the annoyances? Love your videos, very informative!
Thanks Matt for your excellent reviews! FYI, BEFORE buying the 1805: the Amazon price jumped this morning by $170 (to $770). It's now only $30 cheaper than Sunny's newer model of the same bike, the sf-b1913 (in stock on sunnyhealthfitness.com, with free shipping), which includes a monitor (with cadence, but not resistance), pulse sensor, and sdp clips. See yourexercisebike.com/sunny-health-fitness-sf-b1913-review/ No brainer to get the 1913 and save yourself the hassle and $ of buying separate clips, cadence sensor and pulse monitor ... or wait until Amazon gets real on the 1805 price (hint, hint).
The 1913 is on sale at Dicks for $600.
@@ernie3145 Indeed it is. $738 with shipping and tax, and sill the much better option. Thx.
Dean, I've narrowed it down to the 1805 and 1913. Are you able to find the 1913 anywhere else besides Sunny's website? It is $799 there, and I can't decide if an extra $200 is worth it just for the monitor and clips. I was hoping to find it cheaper on Amazon. Not seeing it at Dicks (even 2 weeks ago when I first saw these comments), unless I'm missing something. $600 for the 1913 (according to @Ern ie) would be a no brainer. Sounds too good to be true.
@@goodwillguru Dick's just put the 1913 back on sale for $599, but also raised the shipping cost from the normal $40 charge to $85 (net of $15 credit). I received the bike within 3 days, and I love it. No complaints whatsoever.
I really want an IC4, but the left pedal issues are very concerning. Some people say that installing different pedals can solve the issue. It would be very good if you can try that, even if just moving the SF-B1805 to the IC4.
The best break down on spinners by far.
@TailHappy TV Thanks for your review.
the SB-F1913 is the new model of 1805?
Love the videos. Pls keep them coming. Can you pls show how to install the Wahoo cadence monitor & how to install different pedals? Thank you.
Thank you for your thorough and informative reviews. Have you ever reviewed the Schwinn AC40 Carbon Blue drive bike?
I have the 1805 - only thing I don’t like is that moving the handlebars and seat adjustments aren’t as easy as a spinning bike at my gym.
Thanks for sharing. Your videos are great. Learning a lot from them. Thank You!
Do you have any videos on the sunny Asuna line? I’m considering the asuna 6100, sunny 1805, and schwinn ic4. Thanks!
Thank you for another great video! Would love to see some Canadian recommendations available on amazon such as the Chaoke, pyhigh, etc. We never have popular brands like joroto, pooboo, sunny 1805
Awesome comparison of the two bikes!! I've enjoyed all your videos. Is there a manufacturer who makes just the SPD clip bracket that can be installed later on the pedals rather than swapping out the whole pedal for an SPD preconfigured one?
there is, search jd304 cleat on alibaba or ebay, it comes straight from china for $25
@@TailHappyTV Great! Thanks for the lead. Keep up the awesome reviews! BTW, the SF-B1805 has a Q Factor of 182mm I believe. I'm use to riding the Schwinn Carbon Blue at the local gym. Hoping I get a similar ride as that is a nice bike.
Not sure if you check these still, but if you do, it seems the 1805 is a lot better than the ic4, except the features/electronic, right? So if I get a Wahoo cadence, does that allow me to do connect to apps and essentially be the same as the ic4? Thanks
Yes, basically the 1805 is the better value
Sorry, but my English is not perfect and I couldn't understand well about this device (Wahoo Sensor Cadence). Can it make us connect to Zwift, for example?
There's a newer version of the Sunny bike the 1815 model with a 40lb wheel and with a basic info panel and pulse-sensing grips. Would you still go with the older model because of the heavier flywheel?
Really like the editing job!
Thank you! I've been working on improving my editing, lots of work and I appreciate your comment!
Alright I'll be getting the 1805 based off your review! I'll be buying through your link my dude.
Wow! Thank you! Hope you love it as much as I do!
@@TailHappyTV thank you so much for your time and effort! Happy New Year!
Hi there, can you do a review of the DMASUN Spin Bike please?
Thanks for the review . Should I worry about the health warning that the sunny bike has ? I really want to buy it but after reading the warning ⚠️ what exactly is it ? And where does it contain that harmful chemical(s)
Did you see the new $1200 Sunny Health & Fitness ASUNA 7150 Minotaur? I wonder if it is worth all that money.
So the sunny bike is now offered as a smart bike…thoughts?
Clicking/wind up noise by the front normal? As you pedal it gets louder...not crazy loud, but noticeable
Great stuff, I am new to cycling. Do you have a review for the IC3? How would you complete the IC3 vs the SB-1805? THANKS
I would like a bike that my daughter can use--her height is 4'10" which would give her a better fit-the Schwinn or Sunny?
Hey I start following you last week, nice channel, my question is , can you adjust the sunny to work wit apps like rouvy or fulgas or the zwift.
Getting closer to making my selection and your videos have been waaayy helpful. Or... maybe I'll wait for your girl to make you choose between your bikes and her so I can get one from you at a good discount. LOL!!😀
In either case, I'd check the TailHappy Score before you commit to the discount :D
wish u had room to try tje Yesoul S3 against any others.
Great comparison! Leaning towards the Sunny b-1805 but I recently stumbled upon the Women’s Health / Men’s Health Indoor Cycling Exercise Bike. The price is right but curious is you had a chance to look into that bike or even test it out?
Thank you for putting in all this time and effort, really helps!
Looks like copyright infringement by a knockoff company. That logo is taken from the Men's Health magazine but this bike does not appear to be made by Mens Health or Womens Health, or have anything to do with them other then stamping that logo on the bike frame.
Why not just buy a little tube of loctite and throw it on the threads? Sounds easier than constantly checking an tightening the pedal.
I understand it might be hard to give an answer because you are super tall, but if you were reviewing for a very small person like myself (5’ 00” and a little over 100lbs.) what would you think? I obviously wouldn’t need such an extremely high resistance level because I don’t have that extra weight of a tall person. Also, being pretty short do you think my knees would still hit the water bottles? I of course have the opposite problem of a tall person so it would be interesting to see you work with someone on a video comparison of bikes with a short person. I do like the idea of having the electronics already built in but I have a garmin and even when I go to spin classes at my local gym I have to manually enter in my info after class because although I have the ability to use my watch for indoor cycling I believe I would need the cadence sensor for my bike for it to register to my watch.
Is there a SPEED sensor that you'd recommend for a flywheel spin bike that is also compatible with the Wahoo app? I get the cadence sensor, but can't seem to find one for SPEED. Thanks, in advance. Ken
Also, can you review the L NOW Pooboo DL501 in the near future? Thanks, again.
What are the q-factors for the two bikes? I believe that the IC4 has a noticeably wider pedal stance.
How does the positioning of the device holder compare for the two bikes? It looks like your tablet might be closer to you on the Sunny B1805 than on the Schwinn ic4, making it easier to touch and manipulate the screen on the Sunny. Is that the case?
Can we get a comparison between the new Sunny b913 vs ic4? Since they are comparable in price
Can you remove the water bottle cage or don’t even used it or is have to be in the bike once is assembled. 🤔
I’m ready to purchase however I’m confused with all the Sunny bike models- I’m curious to know why you chose the 1805? I see what looks to be a newer model called the 1877 that’s $325. The 1805 is $600. It’s confusing.
You're right, there are a lot of choices lol, it was a hard decision. A few things I see right away, the 1877 has a single magnet stack above the flywheel, usually this style magnet does not create as much resistance as dual magnet stacks that "pinch" the flywheel based on my observations and experience. Also the flywheel on the 1877 is 29lbs vs 44lbs on the 1805.
@@TailHappyTV I would have never known that as a noob. Lol thank you for all your help. Purchased the 1805 off one of your links! Arrives this Sunday. 😬
Hi I’m Kevin I wanted to know what bike do you recommend? I don’t want anything expensive but not give off that cheap feel and i was looking at the sunny bike can you give me some advice and thank you?!?!?!
Sunny1805 vs. Sunny SYNERGY/ PRO? Really want to know which one to get. Please post reply 🙏🚴
If getting the Sunny, do you think a speed meter is worth it too? Or just the pulse meter in your opinion? Bike newb here so any thoughts help
I think the cadence sensor is good enough
Still waiting on the review of the Sunny SF-B1986 Evolution 2
Have you reviewed the Sunny SF-B1851 (Synergy-Pro)?
Any thoughts on the Proform studio bike 22 ?
nice, recently ordered sunny
Thinking of buying the Sunny 1913. Is it the same quality as the Sunny 1805?
Is the Q factor narrower on the Sunny than the IC4?
what about durability? does sunny compare to schwann?
The sunny bike is rated at a maximum weight of 300 pounds, while the ic4 is rated for 330 pounds. Do you think there's really a significant difference. I weigh right around 300 pounds, and am wondering if that would be a reason to choose the ic4.
I got the 1805 and it squeaks each time I get out of the bike, I’m looking for a new bike because of that
Please suggest what Sunny bike you would recommend with electronics, cup holder, tablet or phone holder, and a comfortable seat. I truly appreciate your feedback sir!!
The 1709, I have a video on it
@@TailHappyTV Thank you!
How important do you think it is for some kind of resistance numbers for a beginner? I’m just afraid my wife will get discouraged if she accidentally sets her resistance too high and can’t finish a class vs knowing her resistance is a specific number and what her max difficulty she can handle is and being able to consistently set to same resistance.
That's a really hard question to answer. For some people that may be pretty important,
I’m looking for a bike to use with Apple fitness and the Sunny bike seems look a good fit. Is knowing the resistance number at all times really important though?
Not at all, especially for apple fitness+. I think the 1805 is probably my favorite best bang for the buck and quality recommendation for apple fitness+. Fitness+ does not even give resistance numbers, they do call out cadence. Cadence and heart rate tracking and power are the most important metrics in my opinion.
Thoughts on the sunny 1851
Is the Sunny B1913 the same as the B1805?
I'm just amazed you can talk in complete sentences at a heart rate of 163. I pass out at about that point...
15 millimeters? Come on, buddy. Use real measurements!
Don't mean to be a jerk but in almost every review you seem to need to tell us how tall you are multiple times. Yes you're 6'5" and that's great but that is much taller than the average person so good to hear once in awhile but it's almost like you're ego regarding height is more important than the review. It fits tall people great. Move on! Otherwise your channel is great. Keep up the good work!