@@preludedriven i got the airdyne, but i'm thinking if i shold get something like this, for longer duration workouts. THe air bike has no low intensity its medium or harder. WOrkouts only last 30 minutes. at most.
Thanks brother, was really looking forward to this review!! Looked at a Peloton but out of my price range and don't like clip in pedals. Everyone is talking about this bike as a good alternative but there are not very many good reviews on TH-cam. Your unboxing and directions video was awesome.
Awesome man! Everyone at the house loves it and it gets used daily. It’s really a great setup 👌🏽. I recently discovered the RGT Cycling app (similar time Zwift) and the bike pairs perfectly...can’t do that with a Peloton lol 😂
Madison Creech 4/5 and was given an est. 45 day, however I joined a FB group for IC4 owners and most people who ordered mid-end March are starting to get theirs and the true estimate seems to be in the 20-30 day range. I’m hoping to see my shipping notice sometime in the next few days or week.
I'm really interested in the bike. I love the fact that I can choose what app I want to use and I'm not locked in. I hate the proprietary nature of higher end brands like Pelton and all the ridiculous overpriced add ons. I already have my own tablets, bike shoes, heart rate monitor, etc so the Schwinn is a great option
Excellent review! Finally, a review that provides needed information that did not sugar coat short comings and pointed out the multiple strengths of the equipment. Most so called reviews are uninformative written and directed by the manufacturers that are over dubbed with hype music. This review is much better than those videos.
Glad it was helpful! I too was searching for honest feedback on the bike for weeks, and really wanted to get this information out to the public. It really is a great bike though! :)
I agree one thing I don't like is the flared out ends of the handle bar ends. They look stupid. A strength of this bike is that is more affordable than some other bikes I’ve been researching. The wait to get this bike delivered is a turn off although. For me it is a strong contender for my planed purchase.
Cube Hire Yup, I still haven’t gotten used to the bar ends. Try refreshing the Dick’s Sporting Goods site, where it was shipped to me in about 4 or 5 days. BTW I’ve picked up a second bike: Schwinn SC Power. Much more expensive but it’s in a completely different league.
This was a very precise review! Top to bottom, covering all angles. I was particularly impressed with the riding demonstration as it let me know how I would feel on the bike. One suggest, as I didn't recall you mentioning your height as this would have been helpful as it would have provided a range of how the bike would fit for others.
Thank you for the feedback! I am 5'6". My wife is 5'4" and uses the same saddle height, but complains about the far reach to the bars, yet her knees hit her water bottle :(
Thanks for such a detailed review. I ordered this bike with assembly a couple days ago from the Schwin site because everyone else that could ship sooner was out of stock. I'm super excited! The price increased $100.00 the next morning after I purchased it. I hoping it doesn't take 60 days to ship though.
Great video. I have the Bowflex C6. I agree with you about the resistance. To solve that I read on a post to remove the cover of the magnet and there is a 13mm bolt that you can loosen. This will take some of the tension off of the magnet. It is definitely tough at zero. Also if anyone is military or veteran you get a 30% discount from Bowflex. Made mime $699 before tax.
Thanks! The IC4 and the C6 are the same bike, aside from different stickers and colors on a few parts. I would recommend going with the IC4 for $100 less. 👍
Thanks to your install video, I assembled mine last night and rode it this morning. As soon as I got on the bike, the resistance level showed 0 so I thought I'd start there. In a couple of minutes I was struggling LOL, and I realized the resistance level was turned up and was not at 0 like the display. When I turned the knob left, the resistance decreased, but the number stayed at 0. Then when turning clockwise, the number wouldn't change then after a turn or two would start to increase. There's something wrong here for sure. Is there a video somewhere explaining/fixing this? Thank you!
Great review! Would you happen to know the q factor on the IC4? If not then how does it feel? (Wide or narrow) I'm 5'6 like yourself so your feel would be a good
That's going to depend on which type of exercise you enjoy more. We got my wife a $1,000 elliptical which she used for maybe the first month, then it sat unused for several years. We then sold it and I bought her a bike, which she's been using consistently since we got it in April.
Hmm, I believe you are asking about the seat post? If so, I had pretty much the same experience. All you can do is try cleaning all parts, and retightening. You can also add a bit of grease to the threads, which usually helps to get a bit more tension on the turn knob.
I've tried the IC3 and the brake pad worked very well for adding loads of resistance and the IC2 has a very similar pad style. I'm sure it will deliver the amount of resistance you're looking for.
This may have been answered already, but with the ability to pair to any app does that mean you can participate in live classes like with Peloton and have your stats show up on their roster?
You can definitely participate in live classes and your name shows up in the roster, but I know that the data metrics in the Peloton app are limited vs an actual Peloton bike. Not 100% sure, but only the IC4 Cadence and Heart Rate show up in the app. The Peloton bike shows those along with Resistance and Power Output.
Is there a power output during/after each ride that would get logged in my peloton app? If I use the peloton app, I understand I won't have leadership participation but would I be able to tell where I would be on the leaderboard as it's a function of total power output?
No, unfortunately. That is one trade-off that you don't get with a setup like this. Whenever I do a Peloton ride, I actually record (on a separate device) using something like Zwift or Kinetic to get all of my output numbers and post to Strava.
My Bowflex the same bike I received and the flywheel was damaged. Schwinn core health and fitness set me a new flywheel. What a freaking nightmare to swap out the flywheel; 1. To remove the drive train shroud / plastic cover requires a non-standard bicycle crank extractor - You will have to purchase this crank extractor directly from Schwinn/core health and fitness. You can't buy this tool anywhere else. Took 6 weeks to get the tool. Brand new bike which I couldn't fix because I didn't have the crank extractor tool. 2. You cannot remove the flywheel without disassembling the resistance mechanism. Disassembling the resistance mechanism is an arduous and complicated process because there's so many parts including the watts measurement device sensor. 3. Once the flywheel is replaced they're so many different screws and parts it's almost impossible to remember which order is required to put everything back together - sadly there's a very specific order which everything needs to be reassembled - fucking pain in the ass and I'm a bike mechanic. 4. With the new Flywheel installed - there was an issue with the resistance mechanism rubbing on top of the flywheel - essentially when you turn the resistance mechanism up to increase the tension the resistance mechanism rubs on the flywheel - I was probably only at about 50% resistance for what I needed for my training. Fuck fuck fuck!! I got this bike did all this work wasted all this time and the resistance mechanism doesn't function properly. My suggestion steer clear of this model bike. Was not a pleasant experience. Lastly 5. The packaging of the replacement flywheel was mediocre and totally inadequate. The box was ripped open, The way they package this heavy flywheel was totally inadequate and it was scratches all over the flywheel. So lame and so disappointing. Some people may think I'm a troll for such a negative review; if you have this bike try using a standard bicycle crank extractor tool - You will see that the standard bicycle crank instructor tool will not work no way Jose. Total number of hours process the warranty orders, get the replacement tool, do all the work I didn't count but probably a total of two work days total. This is one reason not to buy an indoor cycling bike online but instead it's a good idea to purchase a new indoor cycling bike from a local retailer where you can actually get support in real life IRL.
Wow sorry to hear about all of this...definitely feel your pain. I started getting a slight knocking sound from the left crank arm and after I pulled the plastic cap, I did notice the larger/non-standard threads. Luckily the noise stopped once I re-torqued the crank bolt. Is Nautilus offering a solution for you?
Thank you for this review! Do you know the difference with the IC7, the one with no magnetic resistance ? I wonder if the difference is big or if it is comparable (a part for the Bluetooth connection)
Yes, so the IC7 is the equivalent to the IC3 that we have here. The IC7 uses the same frame (and most components) as the IC8, but yes, lacks magnetic resistance and does not feature bluetooth connectivity. If you are fine with a resistance pad and no connectivity, it will for the most part be identical. Hope this helps!
Yes it can be changed to MPH: To switch units between kilometers and miles before a workout, push the Increase and Decrease buttons at the same time and hold for 3 seconds. Then, push the Increase/Decrease button to change the units (km/mi). Once the desired unit of distance is displayed, push any other button to save your preference.
Is there a spin bike where you don't have to lean forward like bikers do? Can I adjust handles so I can seat in a more upright position when biking? I have 2 buldging disk in my back so I would like to be able to adjust seat and hundles where I can keep back straight and with good posture while spinning. Looks uncomfortable to use bike leaning forward with head almost touching handles like I have seen people do and also arching back while placing hands on handles?? also does bottom gets very sore and painfully after spinning workout, specially doing it every day or every other day for 30-40 min?? I been trying to decide between this and echo rogue airdyne bike to use at home for hitt and maybe long biking workouts... Bike looks pretty cool and I know it will give me a good workout, however I don't know if Iam gonna a like just seating there pedaling for 30- 40 min.. I lift 3x a week and every other day 2x a week I do 30 min hitt workouts.. Battle rope, kettle bell, punching bag, ply box, airdyne etc, etc... I always do 40sec on 20 off with a variety of exercises for 30-35 min.. Don't know if the spinn bike will fit in my workouts or if I really need it? Maybe if I don't feel like doing hitt I can jump on the spin bike and do a peloton workout or something like that. Do you think spin bike is for people that don't like doing hit workouts or people that don't have any other equipment or maybe they just like biking?? Sorry for all the questions..just trying to decide between spinn bike and airdyne bike.. Thank u
This bike does have fore/aft adjustable handlebars, but I believe you might be looking for more of an upright bike, where you sit more vertical. You can always swap the seat out and/or get padded shorts, which help tremendously! Btw, my wife is not very flexible, and was never too into cycling, but she's been enjoying this bike, and has not complained about the arch in her back :)
I noticed there is some rocking on the bike when you pedal. Could you please tell us more about ? Is it only when you stand or even rocks when fast pedalling on the saddle? I'm surprised about the sound. Other magnetics are completely silent.
Can you tell me if the pedals have a "neutral' position? What I mean is, if I stop pedaling to rest, do the pedals continue to spin with the flywheel? Hope that makes sense.
Hi, what you are referring to is called "Smart Release" and from what I know, the older Schwinn AC model is the only bike to offer this function. This IC4 does not unfortunately.
It looked like you had an Android tablet but I heard the peleton software is not as great on Android. Would you recommend someone just starting out pick up an iPad to get a better experience or we you happy with how the Android worked?
I use Wahoo Fitness to track my output, as I use Strava, but you are correct; with Android, you cannot connect your bike to the app and if you are looking to track your progress on the Peloton app, definitely pick up an iPad!
I like to pedal against heavy resistance, as if I'm pedaling through mud or molasses, or up a big hill, where I have to struggle hard to peddle and have to stop after 30-45 seconds, rest and repeat over and over to blast my quads. I have strong legs(squat 315lbs. for reps) and stay seated while pedaling. Is the maximum resistance on this bike sufficient for me to accomplish what I describe?
The resistance on this bike might not be what you’re looking for, as there are only 4 magnets vs 6 on most other bikes. Look up the Schwinn AC Power and AC Performance bikes, both have 6 magnets and a much stronger frame.
Thanks very much for this excellent and thorough review. I am trying to decide between this and the Concept2 Bikeerg--are you familiar with it and can you make a recommendation?
Great post! I ordered a bike waiting 7-29, I have been reading a lot about issues with pedals cross treading and needing to replace the crank. Curious if you replaced your pedals or if you are using stock without issue.
The stock pedals have been fantastic actually. Just make sure to follow my assembly guide and hand thread them in before using a wrench. The threads are left and right thread specific.
I just got mine this week. Love it so far. Not sure if you can shed some light. So I’m using the peleton app via an iPad. No issues. However, I would like to sync the data with Strava. I don’t see a way to do this via the app. I’m also the owner of a Garmin watch. Would be nice to sync to Garmin to Strava. Any recommendations?
So what I ended up doing is getting the Wahoo App, which can also save the data to Strava. I didn't see any benefit to connecting the bike to Peloton, and I used the console to view my stats :)
Sorry for the late reply....have you gotten this fixed yet? Typically, a squeak might come from a loose belt, or the belt may be rubbing on the belt guard.
@@preludedriven Thank you for your response. Can you pedal fast enough with no resistance using any weight flywheel and still reach maximum heart rate? I am thinking about buying an IC2 but the wheel is only 31lbs. I am worried the workout will not be intense enough to reach maximum heart rate. The more resistance you add the more it becomes strength training and less a cardio workout.
Awesome review, thank you! I have a question regarding the resistance. My wife is getting ready to rehab from knee surgery and I noticed in your video you said the lowest resistance feels like a 20 on the Peloton. Would that be too much strain on her knee in your opinion? I've never been on a Peloton so I don't know what a 20 would feel like. Also does it have an emergency stop like other bikes for the flywheel? Thanks!!!
Yes, the 0 resistance level does put a bit of strain, but it's only noticeable at higher RPMs of 90-100. As long as she keeps a slow/easy cadence, it should be great for the knee. Thanks!
Great video. I’m 240 , 6’4 and I’m worried about this bike rocking when I pedal hard . I know this bike has a max weight capacity of 350 pounds but I see some wobbling in your video as you ride. The total weight of this bike is 105 while The peloton on the other hand is 135 , I’d hate to go with the peloton just for sturdiness if it’s really a none issue for this bike ?
Honestly, the bike does rock/wobble a bit. The mat I am using in this video is kind of spongy, so that did add to the rocking as well. From what I've seen, the Peloton also has some wobble to it. I'd also recommend you to check out the Schwinn AC Performance or AC Power bikes. Those are commercial grade and sturdier than both this and the peloton.
FarKeldx I have not tried it, but I have been using RGT (similar to Zwift). It works great but I did notice my wattage was off (too high). I fixed this by adding a higher value for my weight
This can be resolved a few ways. 1, adjust your weight in Zwift to be more than than you are. The issue is the wattage output from the IC4 being miscalculated by Zwift, partly. When you say you weight more, Zwift re-calculates your power/weight based on that. IC4 data + your weight + in-game data and math is all. 2. You can re-calibrate the IC4 LCD/resistance, but only upwards of 3 times. Actually, its not the LCD per say (documented) but a sensor attached to it. Regardless, there are instructions online on how to manually re-calibrate the LCD. People have reported this to normalize their wattage output in Zwift. 3. Someone on the Schwinn forums posted a few weeks back that Nautilus support told them there was new firmware being released for the LCD for the IC4 "by May". To update you would download the firmware to a USB stick and go through some measures with support to flash the LCD. This person also indicated that support said replacement LCDs or sensors may be shipped out to update firmware as well. This firmware was in context of IC4 power output vs Zwift. I don't have my IC4 yet, but plan on using Zwift. If I notice my power output is off, I will first adjust my weight in game and do some tests to see how that impacts power and then likely contact support to ask about firmware before I re-calibrate myself. Also, I highly suspect that if you call support, 9/10 of the front line people on the phone will not know what you (or I) are talking about. Its going to take some effort and social engineering to get to the right people and get answers. The IC4 is not listed as a "supported" bike on Zwifts matrix and my guess is because of this reason. The good news is, software can fix this. This is a wall of text, remember if you increase your weight in Zwift it will re-calculate your wattage based on that. A little trial and error and you can get things right yourself.
The only two I know that have power output is the Keiser M3 and the WattBike, but they are a lot of money for the one that has handle bar adjustment fore and aft. And even then, it might just be a number on the display as there is no way of knowing whether the number you get is Voltage x Amperage, 'Horse Power' or something else. Same for the WattBike, although the later has a nice graphical display of where you are applying the power on your pedal stroke. There is mileage on the thought that one is better off buying a 'cheap' magnetic brake spinning bike then add the power sensor pedals separately. Then you can compare the spinning power with real life power just by switching the pedals back and forth or if you have the money, buy 2 sets of power pedals.
This does have (perceived) wattage. It does not show up on the console, but will show up in apps (like Zwift, RGT, Sufferfest, etc). But, I've noticed that its power numbers are not too accurate.
I own two other Schwinns (AC Power and SC Power) that both have actual power meters, located on the left crank arm. The Stages bikes also feature power output as well.
thanks for the review! Mine's on order from a local fitness store (IC4), and they said "June" whereas Bowflex said expect to wait until July (for the C6) Hopefully the store wasn't exaggerating.
Yes, max resistance is not as strong as some of the other bikes with 6 magnets (the IC4 only has 4), but it should be fine for most users. Only the larger/stronger riders that put out a lot of watts will notice.
This does need to be plugged in to access all of the metrics on the console, but you can still use it unplugged and ride on your own, as the resistance is manual. This is currently $799
Jay Steam I ordered mine 4/24 and still no update on status. I messaged Schwinn on Facebook and the rep said I should receive it by 7/20/20 the latest 😒
Hi, Actually I didn't have any issues with the pedals and they were great. I happened to like the handlebars, just not the two flat parts at the ends. Which pedals did you upgrade to?
@@preludedriven I upgraded the pedals to shimano SPD SL, which are not cheap but top quality. The handlebars are fine, only that uncomfortable although I am getting alone with them. Thanks for your reviews.
Will the tablet holder fit any size of tablet? Like the iPad 12.9"? Also, with peloton digital, will your metrics be stored in the app? Or is this not possible?
To be more specific, will your metrics from the IC4 transfer to the Peloton app, so you can see the summary at the end of the workout? (calories, avg speed, cadence, etc.) It sounds like there is not an "output" metric on this bike.
I am using a standard iPad and an 8" wide tablet and I believe the larger iPads do fit just fine. As far as the metrics go, only Cadence and Heart rate get transferred and stored. I believe the calories is an estimate and not super accurate.
Great video. I just got mine. Mirrors my complaints with it too. I also really hate that heart monitor. Feel like just returning it and getting a sunny magnetic + apple/garmin smart watch and wahoo speed+cadence instead and I'll get better value for my money .
Yah my issues with the seat post and the crazy power numbers started driving me crazy, but the heart rate monitor has been working well for me. I actually got a couple new bikes to test out: SC Power and AC Power; both commercial bikes by Schwinn and like 100X’s better. Will be posting videos on both soon!
Check out my newest Spin Bike Review; freebeat LIT Bike: th-cam.com/video/P9jJ_4t_lyM/w-d-xo.html
Got my IC4 just over 2 months ago. Amazing paired with the Peloton app. Lost nearly 10 pounds already!🔥🔥🔥🔥
Very nice!!!! Keep going :):):)
@@preludedriven i got the airdyne, but i'm thinking if i shold get something like this, for longer duration workouts. THe air bike has no low intensity its medium or harder. WOrkouts only last 30 minutes. at most.
Very nice! Keep going fatso!
THANK YOU for posting that audio clip of the actual flywheel. Great video 🙌🏼
Alexandria Rose Yah it’s pretty quiet...much quieter at lower RPMs too. Thanks!
Thanks brother, was really looking forward to this review!! Looked at a Peloton but out of my price range and don't like clip in pedals. Everyone is talking about this bike as a good alternative but there are not very many good reviews on TH-cam. Your unboxing and directions video was awesome.
Awesome man! Everyone at the house loves it and it gets used daily. It’s really a great setup 👌🏽. I recently discovered the RGT Cycling app (similar time Zwift) and the bike pairs perfectly...can’t do that with a Peloton lol 😂
Great post! I’ve been waiting for someone to post a video of the IC4 bike in motion. I’m waiting for mine to arrive!!
Ali V when did you order yours if you don’t mind me asking??? Mine is showing 60+ business days still before it gets here 😬
Madison Creech 4/5 and was given an est. 45 day, however I joined a FB group for IC4 owners and most people who ordered mid-end March are starting to get theirs and the true estimate seems to be in the 20-30 day range. I’m hoping to see my shipping notice sometime in the next few days or week.
Ali V awesome! That gives me hope. Thank you!
Ali V I ordered mine on 4/2 and still no updates on the website 😩 haven’t even fully processed my card!
I was lucky enough to find mine on Dick’s Sporting Goods and delivery was within 5 days after checking out. Hope u get your bike soon!
I'm really interested in the bike. I love the fact that I can choose what app I want to use and I'm not locked in. I hate the proprietary nature of higher end brands like Pelton and all the ridiculous overpriced add ons. I already have my own tablets, bike shoes, heart rate monitor, etc so the Schwinn is a great option
I Agree! Also, who knows when or how long these proprietary platforms will be around for :)
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Excellent review! Finally, a review that provides needed information that did not sugar coat short comings and pointed out the multiple strengths of the equipment. Most so called reviews are uninformative written and directed by the manufacturers that are over dubbed with hype music. This review is much better than those videos.
Glad it was helpful! I too was searching for honest feedback on the bike for weeks, and really wanted to get this information out to the public. It really is a great bike though! :)
I agree one thing I don't like is the flared out ends of the handle bar ends. They look stupid. A strength of this bike is that is more affordable than some other bikes I’ve been researching. The wait to get this bike delivered is a turn off although. For me it is a strong contender for my planed purchase.
Cube Hire Yup, I still haven’t gotten used to the bar ends. Try refreshing the Dick’s Sporting Goods site, where it was shipped to me in about 4 or 5 days.
BTW I’ve picked up a second bike: Schwinn SC Power. Much more expensive but it’s in a completely different league.
thanks for your your review, excellent presentation, purchased the Ic4 very pleased with it.
Glad it was helpful!
This was a very precise review! Top to bottom, covering all angles. I was particularly impressed with the riding demonstration as it let me know how I would feel on the bike. One suggest, as I didn't recall you mentioning your height as this would have been helpful as it would have provided a range of how the bike would fit for others.
Thank you for the feedback! I am 5'6". My wife is 5'4" and uses the same saddle height, but complains about the far reach to the bars, yet her knees hit her water bottle :(
Great review! Straight forward and precise. I am considering adding a spin bike to my home gym and this was helpful.
Thank you for the great feedback! A spin bike is definitely the perfect addition to a home gym!
Solid, structured review. Good job
Thanks for such a detailed review. I ordered this bike with assembly a couple days ago from the Schwin site because everyone else that could ship sooner was out of stock. I'm super excited! The price increased $100.00 the next morning after I purchased it. I hoping it doesn't take 60 days to ship though.
Wow you totally lucked out! I’m surprised there was such a large price gap between the IC4 and C6 Bikes. Hope your bike gets to you quick!
Great video. I have the Bowflex C6. I agree with you about the resistance. To solve that I read on a post to remove the cover of the magnet and there is a 13mm bolt that you can loosen. This will take some of the tension off of the magnet. It is definitely tough at zero. Also if anyone is military or veteran you get a 30% discount from Bowflex. Made mime $699 before tax.
Oh nice, I'll definitely have to look for this 13mm bolt! Thanks!
Great review! I'm teetering between the Schwinn and Bowflex. Now to go find that review.
Thanks! The IC4 and the C6 are the same bike, aside from different stickers and colors on a few parts. I would recommend going with the IC4 for $100 less. 👍
Great video. I ordered mine on April 22. Can’t wait to get it
Nice! Did you get your bike yet?
PRELUDEDRIVEN MTB. Yep got it mid June. It’s so sweet.
Thanks to your install video, I assembled mine last night and rode it this morning. As soon as I got on the bike, the resistance level showed 0 so I thought I'd start there. In a couple of minutes I was struggling LOL, and I realized the resistance level was turned up and was not at 0 like the display. When I turned the knob left, the resistance decreased, but the number stayed at 0. Then when turning clockwise, the number wouldn't change then after a turn or two would start to increase. There's something wrong here for sure. Is there a video somewhere explaining/fixing this? Thank you!
Waiting for mine!!
Hope it gets to you soon! :)
I found them on dicksportinggood LESS WAIT!!! I get mine Thursday lol
Thanks for a high quality, helpful video. Subscribed.
Thanks for the sub!
Great video! You sold me. im going to pick one up this week!
Nice! Did you get your bike yet?
Excellent review
Thank you kindly
Very thorough review, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Just ordered mine!....Thanx!
Hope you enjoy it!
Great video! I think you inspired me to buy one.
Nice! I highly recommend it for the price!
Great review! Would you happen to know the q factor on the IC4? If not then how does it feel? (Wide or narrow) I'm 5'6 like yourself so your feel would be a good
The Schwinn IC4 has a 190mm Q Factor. It is on the wide side, but still very comfortable to pedal on!
Great review. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
What kind of mat did you purchase and from where? I’m going to have mine on carpet...
Sunny has a perfectly sized mat that does not take up too much room and is really high quality. Amazon sells it for reasonable price.
Ali V This is actually my Giant Bicycles may from my road bike trainer setup but you can find them on Dick’s, Amazon, Big5, etc
lcrooks69 is it the small or medium size?
@@bmunch86 small fits perfectly.
I may look into this bike
It's a good one for the price. Have you decided on a bike yet?
@@preludedriven I really want the Sunny Aeropro bike but it's out of stock
I’m really torn between a bike like this or the bowflex M6 trainer (elliptical/stepper)
That's going to depend on which type of exercise you enjoy more. We got my wife a $1,000 elliptical which she used for maybe the first month, then it sat unused for several years. We then sold it and I bought her a bike, which she's been using consistently since we got it in April.
My seat shaft is super squeaky and noisy. What do you recommend I do?
Hmm, I believe you are asking about the seat post? If so, I had pretty much the same experience. All you can do is try cleaning all parts, and retightening. You can also add a bit of grease to the threads, which usually helps to get a bit more tension on the turn knob.
Great review! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Has anyone used the Schwinn IC2? Are you able to do interval training with it where you get completely out of breath?
I've tried the IC3 and the brake pad worked very well for adding loads of resistance and the IC2 has a very similar pad style. I'm sure it will deliver the amount of resistance you're looking for.
This may have been answered already, but with the ability to pair to any app does that mean you can participate in live classes like with Peloton and have your stats show up on their roster?
You can definitely participate in live classes and your name shows up in the roster, but I know that the data metrics in the Peloton app are limited vs an actual Peloton bike. Not 100% sure, but only the IC4 Cadence and Heart Rate show up in the app. The Peloton bike shows those along with Resistance and Power Output.
how do you know where to put the resistance when following the Peloton videos?
There is a conversion chart available online;
IC4 = Peloton
5 = 25
9 = 30
17 = 35
25 = 40
33 = 45
49 = 50
Is there a power output during/after each ride that would get logged in my peloton app? If I use the peloton app, I understand I won't have leadership participation but would I be able to tell where I would be on the leaderboard as it's a function of total power output?
No, unfortunately. That is one trade-off that you don't get with a setup like this. Whenever I do a Peloton ride, I actually record (on a separate device) using something like Zwift or Kinetic to get all of my output numbers and post to Strava.
Thank you 😊
Super helpful video! Would this bike be stable enough to use on carpet with a mat underneath? Thanks!
You might get a bit more rocking if the carpet is thick and padded, but should be fine.
My Bowflex the same bike I received and the flywheel was damaged. Schwinn core health and fitness set me a new flywheel.
What a freaking nightmare to swap out the flywheel;
1. To remove the drive train shroud / plastic cover requires a non-standard bicycle crank extractor - You will have to purchase this crank extractor directly from Schwinn/core health and fitness. You can't buy this tool anywhere else.
Took 6 weeks to get the tool. Brand new bike which I couldn't fix because I didn't have the crank extractor tool.
2. You cannot remove the flywheel without disassembling the resistance mechanism. Disassembling the resistance mechanism is an arduous and complicated process because there's so many parts including the watts measurement device sensor.
3. Once the flywheel is replaced they're so many different screws and parts it's almost impossible to remember which order is required to put everything back together - sadly there's a very specific order which everything needs to be reassembled - fucking pain in the ass and I'm a bike mechanic.
4. With the new Flywheel installed - there was an issue with the resistance mechanism rubbing on top of the flywheel - essentially when you turn the resistance mechanism up to increase the tension the resistance mechanism rubs on the flywheel - I was probably only at about 50% resistance for what I needed for my training.
Fuck fuck fuck!! I got this bike did all this work wasted all this time and the resistance mechanism doesn't function properly.
My suggestion steer clear of this model bike. Was not a pleasant experience.
Lastly 5. The packaging of the replacement flywheel was mediocre and totally inadequate. The box was ripped open, The way they package this heavy flywheel was totally inadequate and it was scratches all over the flywheel. So lame and so disappointing.
Some people may think I'm a troll for such a negative review; if you have this bike try using a standard bicycle crank extractor tool - You will see that the standard bicycle crank instructor tool will not work no way Jose. Total number of hours process the warranty orders, get the replacement tool, do all the work I didn't count but probably a total of two work days total. This is one reason not to buy an indoor cycling bike online but instead it's a good idea to purchase a new indoor cycling bike from a local retailer where you can actually get support in real life IRL.
Wow sorry to hear about all of this...definitely feel your pain. I started getting a slight knocking sound from the left crank arm and after I pulled the plastic cap, I did notice the larger/non-standard threads. Luckily the noise stopped once I re-torqued the crank bolt. Is Nautilus offering a solution for you?
Which model are you suggesting to stay away from?... The Bowflex or the Schwinn?
Thank you for this review! Do you know the difference with the IC7, the one with no magnetic resistance ? I wonder if the difference is big or if it is comparable (a part for the Bluetooth connection)
Yes, so the IC7 is the equivalent to the IC3 that we have here. The IC7 uses the same frame (and most components) as the IC8, but yes, lacks magnetic resistance and does not feature bluetooth connectivity. If you are fine with a resistance pad and no connectivity, it will for the most part be identical. Hope this helps!
I noticed the Speed is in KM, can it be changed to MPH?
Yes it can be changed to MPH:
To switch units between kilometers and miles before a workout, push the Increase and Decrease buttons at the same time and hold for 3 seconds. Then, push the Increase/Decrease button to change the units (km/mi). Once the desired unit of distance is displayed, push any other button to save your preference.
Is there a spin bike where you don't have to lean forward like bikers do? Can I adjust handles so I can seat in a more upright position when biking? I have 2 buldging disk in my back so I would like to be able to adjust seat and hundles where I can keep back straight and with good posture while spinning.
Looks uncomfortable to use bike leaning forward with head almost touching handles like I have seen people do and also arching back while placing hands on handles??
also does bottom gets very sore and painfully after spinning workout, specially doing it every day or every other day for 30-40 min??
I been trying to decide between this and echo rogue airdyne bike to use at home for hitt and maybe long biking workouts...
Bike looks pretty cool and I know it will give me a good workout, however I don't know if Iam gonna a like just seating there pedaling for 30- 40 min..
I lift 3x a week and every other day 2x a week I do 30 min hitt workouts..
Battle rope, kettle bell, punching bag, ply box, airdyne etc, etc...
I always do 40sec on 20 off with a variety of exercises for 30-35 min..
Don't know if the spinn bike will fit in my workouts or if I really need it? Maybe if I don't feel like doing hitt I can jump on the spin bike and do a peloton workout or something like that.
Do you think spin bike is for people that don't like doing hit workouts or people that don't have any other equipment or maybe they just like biking?? Sorry for all the questions..just trying to decide between spinn bike and airdyne bike..
Thank u
This bike does have fore/aft adjustable handlebars, but I believe you might be looking for more of an upright bike, where you sit more vertical.
You can always swap the seat out and/or get padded shorts, which help tremendously!
Btw, my wife is not very flexible, and was never too into cycling, but she's been enjoying this bike, and has not complained about the arch in her back :)
I noticed there is some rocking on the bike when you pedal. Could you please tell us more about ? Is it only when you stand or even rocks when fast pedalling on the saddle?
I'm surprised about the sound. Other magnetics are completely silent.
Yes, it does rock slightly due to the thin frame, but the thick mat also added to some of the rocking as well.
Can you tell me if the pedals have a "neutral' position? What I mean is, if I stop pedaling to rest, do the pedals continue to spin with the flywheel? Hope that makes sense.
Hi, what you are referring to is called "Smart Release" and from what I know, the older Schwinn AC model is the only bike to offer this function. This IC4 does not unfortunately.
It looked like you had an Android tablet but I heard the peleton software is not as great on Android. Would you recommend someone just starting out pick up an iPad to get a better experience or we you happy with how the Android worked?
I use Wahoo Fitness to track my output, as I use Strava, but you are correct; with Android, you cannot connect your bike to the app and if you are looking to track your progress on the Peloton app, definitely pick up an iPad!
I like to pedal against heavy resistance, as if I'm pedaling through mud or molasses, or up a big hill, where I have to struggle hard to peddle and have to stop after 30-45 seconds, rest and repeat over and over to blast my quads. I have strong legs(squat 315lbs. for reps) and stay seated while pedaling. Is the maximum resistance on this bike sufficient for me to accomplish what I describe?
The resistance on this bike might not be what you’re looking for, as there are only 4 magnets vs 6 on most other bikes. Look up the Schwinn AC Power and AC Performance bikes, both have 6 magnets and a much stronger frame.
Thanks very much for this excellent and thorough review. I am trying to decide between this and the Concept2 Bikeerg--are you familiar with it and can you make a recommendation?
I haven’t heard of Concept2, but the design looks interesting. Have you made the purchase yet?
Can you measure what the q factor of the crankset is? I'm have trouble finding hard info and get conflicting reports from people.
I measured the Q-Factor at 190mm. I too was finding conflicting info, and was hoping it was lower.... :/
Great post! I ordered a bike waiting 7-29, I have been reading a lot about issues with pedals cross treading and needing to replace the crank. Curious if you replaced your pedals or if you are using stock without issue.
The stock pedals have been fantastic actually. Just make sure to follow my assembly guide and hand thread them in before using a wrench. The threads are left and right thread specific.
I just got mine this week. Love it so far. Not sure if you can shed some light. So I’m using the peleton app via an iPad. No issues. However, I would like to sync the data with Strava. I don’t see a way to do this via the app. I’m also the owner of a Garmin watch. Would be nice to sync to Garmin to Strava. Any recommendations?
So what I ended up doing is getting the Wahoo App, which can also save the data to Strava. I didn't see any benefit to connecting the bike to Peloton, and I used the console to view my stats :)
I do not like the clacking noise when going over level 50
I just got mine but it squeaks a bit and I can’t figure out where it’s coming from
Sorry for the late reply....have you gotten this fixed yet? Typically, a squeak might come from a loose belt, or the belt may be rubbing on the belt guard.
Do you think it is waste to get a bike for people who already has elliptical?
Can you do interval training reaching maximum heart rate with any flywheel weight? I see flywheels ranging from 20lbs to 50lbs.
Yes you can, by adding more resistance. Heavier flywheels provide better inertia and allow you to have a more ideal 360° pedal stroke.
@@preludedriven Thank you for your response. Can you pedal fast enough with no resistance using any weight flywheel and still reach maximum heart rate? I am thinking about buying an IC2 but the wheel is only 31lbs. I am worried the workout will not be intense enough to reach maximum heart rate. The more resistance you add the more it becomes strength training and less a cardio workout.
Awesome review, thank you! I have a question regarding the resistance. My wife is getting ready to rehab from knee surgery and I noticed in your video you said the lowest resistance feels like a 20 on the Peloton. Would that be too much strain on her knee in your opinion? I've never been on a Peloton so I don't know what a 20 would feel like. Also does it have an emergency stop like other bikes for the flywheel? Thanks!!!
Yes, the 0 resistance level does put a bit of strain, but it's only noticeable at higher RPMs of 90-100. As long as she keeps a slow/easy cadence, it should be great for the knee. Thanks!
Does anyone know how much these usually go for? I'm thinking of getting the IC8. Thanks
The IC4 goes for $799 (US). I believe the IC4 is the US equivalent of the IC8.
PRELUDEDRIVEN MTB thank you
Does this bike come with a mat?
It does if you purchase the (more expensive) Bowflex C6. The Schwinn IC4 is much cheaper and you can always purchase a mat separately.
No it does not come with a mat you have to buy one
Great video. I’m 240 , 6’4 and I’m worried about this bike rocking when I pedal hard . I know this bike has a max weight capacity of 350 pounds but I see some wobbling in your video as you ride. The total weight of this bike is 105 while The peloton on the other hand is 135 , I’d hate to go with the peloton just for sturdiness if it’s really a none issue for this bike ?
Honestly, the bike does rock/wobble a bit. The mat I am using in this video is kind of spongy, so that did add to the rocking as well. From what I've seen, the Peloton also has some wobble to it. I'd also recommend you to check out the Schwinn AC Performance or AC Power bikes. Those are commercial grade and sturdier than both this and the peloton.
Anyone been able to connect the IC4 to Rouvy? I've tried with my phone with no luck. :/
I have not yet tried Rouvy, but the bike connects easily for me with Peloton, Zwift and RGT....
Have you tried Zwift? some people report that it has some problem with the data sent to the app. It's extremely easy to win
FarKeldx I have not tried it, but I have been using RGT (similar to Zwift). It works great but I did notice my wattage was off (too high). I fixed this by adding a higher value for my weight
This can be resolved a few ways. 1, adjust your weight in Zwift to be more than than you are. The issue is the wattage output from the IC4 being miscalculated by Zwift, partly. When you say you weight more, Zwift re-calculates your power/weight based on that. IC4 data + your weight + in-game data and math is all. 2. You can re-calibrate the IC4 LCD/resistance, but only upwards of 3 times. Actually, its not the LCD per say (documented) but a sensor attached to it. Regardless, there are instructions online on how to manually re-calibrate the LCD. People have reported this to normalize their wattage output in Zwift. 3. Someone on the Schwinn forums posted a few weeks back that Nautilus support told them there was new firmware being released for the LCD for the IC4 "by May". To update you would download the firmware to a USB stick and go through some measures with support to flash the LCD. This person also indicated that support said replacement LCDs or sensors may be shipped out to update firmware as well. This firmware was in context of IC4 power output vs Zwift. I don't have my IC4 yet, but plan on using Zwift. If I notice my power output is off, I will first adjust my weight in game and do some tests to see how that impacts power and then likely contact support to ask about firmware before I re-calibrate myself. Also, I highly suspect that if you call support, 9/10 of the front line people on the phone will not know what you (or I) are talking about. Its going to take some effort and social engineering to get to the right people and get answers. The IC4 is not listed as a "supported" bike on Zwifts matrix and my guess is because of this reason. The good news is, software can fix this. This is a wall of text, remember if you increase your weight in Zwift it will re-calculate your wattage based on that. A little trial and error and you can get things right yourself.
No Wattage?
The only two I know that have power output is the Keiser M3 and the WattBike, but they are a lot of money for the one that has handle bar adjustment fore and aft. And even then, it might just be a number on the display as there is no way of knowing whether the number you get is Voltage x Amperage, 'Horse Power' or something else. Same for the WattBike, although the later has a nice graphical display of where you are applying the power on your pedal stroke. There is mileage on the thought that one is better off buying a 'cheap' magnetic brake spinning bike then add the power sensor pedals separately. Then you can compare the spinning power with real life power just by switching the pedals back and forth or if you have the money, buy 2 sets of power pedals.
This does have (perceived) wattage. It does not show up on the console, but will show up in apps (like Zwift, RGT, Sufferfest, etc). But, I've noticed that its power numbers are not too accurate.
I own two other Schwinns (AC Power and SC Power) that both have actual power meters, located on the left crank arm. The Stages bikes also feature power output as well.
How much it costs?
This was $799 when I bought it, but I think it's $899 now :(
thanks for the review! Mine's on order from a local fitness store (IC4), and they said "June" whereas Bowflex said expect to wait until July (for the C6) Hopefully the store wasn't exaggerating.
Nice! Yes, I too ordered mine from a fitness store vs their site and it arrived within a week. Hope it gets to you quick!
Hey Guys! Check out my Long Term Review of this bike here: th-cam.com/video/l_wRtmHnk7E/w-d-xo.html 😁
So max resistance isn't as good as something as paleton?
Yes, max resistance is not as strong as some of the other bikes with 6 magnets (the IC4 only has 4), but it should be fine for most users. Only the larger/stronger riders that put out a lot of watts will notice.
Grrrrrrrrrreat review.
Hiii, thanks for the good review! I just have two questions. Does it need electricity to function or is it manual? Also, how much is it?
It needs power to run the console. Would work without it, just no display. The resistance knob is mechanical.
This does need to be plugged in to access all of the metrics on the console, but you can still use it unplugged and ride on your own, as the resistance is manual. This is currently $799
I just ordered my bike! I’m planning to order shoes as well. What cycling shoes do you recommend for women? Also, do I need to purchase cleats?
Marina D I recommend Shimano shoes...anything that is SPD compatible. The cleats are included with the bike 👍🏽😁
PRELUDEDRIVEN MTB good to know! Thank you so much for your help!
Just curious if you got your bike yet...because mine says estimate of 45 days :-(
Jay Steam I ordered mine 4/24 and still no update on status. I messaged Schwinn on Facebook and the rep said I should receive it by 7/20/20 the latest 😒
Cheap pedals and heavy
Handles very uncomfortable
Low noise is a plus
With good quality pedals the performance improves
Hi, Actually I didn't have any issues with the pedals and they were great. I happened to like the handlebars, just not the two flat parts at the ends. Which pedals did you upgrade to?
@@preludedriven
I upgraded the pedals to shimano SPD SL, which are not cheap but top quality. The handlebars are fine, only that uncomfortable although I am getting alone with them. Thanks for your reviews.
Great indoor bike... I have a collection of youtube videos, I follow...
Yes, it is indeed!
Will the tablet holder fit any size of tablet? Like the iPad 12.9"? Also, with peloton digital, will your metrics be stored in the app? Or is this not possible?
To be more specific, will your metrics from the IC4 transfer to the Peloton app, so you can see the summary at the end of the workout? (calories, avg speed, cadence, etc.) It sounds like there is not an "output" metric on this bike.
I am using a standard iPad and an 8" wide tablet and I believe the larger iPads do fit just fine.
As far as the metrics go, only Cadence and Heart rate get transferred and stored. I believe the calories is an estimate and not super accurate.
Great video. I just got mine. Mirrors my complaints with it too. I also really hate that heart monitor. Feel like just returning it and getting a sunny magnetic + apple/garmin smart watch and wahoo speed+cadence instead and I'll get better value for my money .
Yah my issues with the seat post and the crazy power numbers started driving me crazy, but the heart rate monitor has been working well for me. I actually got a couple new bikes to test out: SC Power and AC Power; both commercial bikes by Schwinn and like 100X’s better. Will be posting videos on both soon!
Nice review, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Is this bike the same as the bowflex c6?