Socialism for Absolute Beginners
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- You've probably heard the word "socialism" in the media. More often than not, it's used as a pejorative. Why is that? Is socialism really that bad, or is there something else going on? In this episode, we'll take a look at socialism at the very surface level. This video is intended to be sent to friends and family who may be familiar with the term, but don't really understand what socialism is all about. I hope you find it helpful!
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Very helpful video (even though I've been a commie for a few months now). I wish I could be a patron, I'll definitely share this video around.
is that your face? hello jt
Nice one!!
We want our landlord video!!!!!!!
You look different than I thought you would look
Imagine being told "You deserve healthcare and a democratically managed workplace" and getting angry at that.
1. Lots of people believe their taxes and other people's taxes are not to be spent on someone else and that they should work if they want to get what they want.
2. Lots of people believe owning a business is a right and the government shouldn't force their way onto them.
3. Anti-socialists tend to be conservative and are turned off by the progressive views of the left which they consider to be accepting weakness and laziness.
@@Sendittothemoon 1. the constitution outlines general welfare of the nation as a purpose for taxation and a congressional responsibility. So what “the believe” isn’t important when the constitution literally permits this.
2. That’s debatable. That’s like saying “i want my own fiefdom and serfs.”
3. The argument that we’d be lazy if given a modicum of social welfare has been proven wrong time and time again because they said the same thing about Social Security and Medicare when first introduced. Today’s workers also the most productive workforce in recorded US history.
Cuban healthcare, which is amazing knowing their circunstances, has been mentioned as an example (many times) of the good socialism can do (which is truth), but at the same time actively ignores the decades lacking of human rights and corruption on the island (bias). It is biased to show every single flaw of capitalism while looking the other way when it comes to socialism.
Of course there is no perfect system, but actively choosing to talk just about the good and looking the other way for everything else is pointless and just ends in failure.
-From a socialist country.
@Zaydan Naufal there are places where certain things work very well, the problem is the size, once you take something to a dozens of millions level, the result is not the same. My hypothesis is that socialism will work only if somehow we get rid of countries and have instead thousands of communities.
I would be furious if people who didn't labor as part of our cooperative decided that they had any say in the fruits of our Labour.
I cant believe second thought isnt just a disembodied voice echoing from a cloud
I was, but I took corporeal form to better spread the message
@@SecondThought I do that time from time when giving speeches, I take on my human form just better spread the message. Lol.
@@SecondThought taking materialism to the next level
@@AlOlexy speaking of which, videos on the developing schools of New Materialism and Speculative Realism would be pretty awesome.
@@SecondThought So basically Jesus?
Still not entirely sure what it's all about, but from what I can gather from the video:
People having a say and do in how their life is run leads to better quality of life. Feels pretty simple and beneficial honestly, why is it shunned so much?
It's simply misinformation and decades of anti-socialist/anti-communist propaganda. It's funny because the majority of people who are against it would also benefit from it.
Mainly because those who control the narrative would lose out. Ultra-rich would see their living standards plummet in a system like that.
Equality feels like oppression to the privileged
It is shunned since the ideas are lies and propaganda and the only people who don't succeed are due to being lazy.
@@KazzakLordOfDoom No they wouldn't. The "Ultra-rich" would be the controlling stake-holders in a socialist nation. They would be the government and the government (the state) controls and owns everything.
When my friend first sent me this video I came into it with a pretty negative mindset. After watching it I still felt negatively, I didn't want to admit the flaws we have in the current system. I can now say that after studying more about Leftism and Socialism I'm firmly convinced of the benefits Socialism would have for all of us. I came back and watched this video again and it all clicked. I thank you for explaining everything in such a clear and concise way. You've helped me alot in understanding what Socialism means.
Have you checked the Einstein essay about Socialism?
Have you checked out dictionaries concerning socialism? It is a philosophy for collective control of labor and means of production. Collective must be government and prejudicial government and this proposes prejudicial government determining what all the individuals in society do productively, with whom, how, and even why (like for cash wages vs equity and workplace democracy)
@@soulcapitalist6204and who wrote the dictionaries? This is the one topic that is almost impossible to avoid bias on as most of the educated first-world countries are capitalist in nature. These dictionaries were written by people who believe in capitalism as a system. It is nearly impossible to keep your own bias from affecting what you say and do and write and think, so it’s difficult to fully trust such dictionaries as the full and perfect definition of a system they’ve been taught to hate as being a small part of communism.
@@thecrazycapmaster Absolutely unacceptable. This is a lie of yours called semantic dispute fallacy.
There is no bias concerning political economic terms as found in dictionaries. If you read a half dozen dictionary definitions, all will be the same with only differences in wording. All will be just as Marx called it in the 1860s with only a few differences in wording. This is because Marx used it the same way as Malthus and Ricardo in the 1820s. "Philosophy based on collective ownership of the means of production." - me and all credible sources - with only a few differences in wording.
@@soulcapitalist6204why does collective have to mean government? That’s is not what Marx wrote.
I still can't believe I ended up learning about socialism because I was trying to understand why the suburbs suck and parking minimums are bad. What a pipeline, glad I let it happen.
Same man, same...
From trains, to cars suck, to work suck, to socialism
@@hidden6637 the journey of man
i can directly trace my path to socialism from my brother telling me to watch she-ra lol no regrets
my pipeline was viboe gane suck
"why do roads suck" Basically capitalism and racism
1:25 "To have meaningful disagreements you need to know what it is you disagree with" - we gravely need this one in our world!
As a capitalist, I never disagreed with the idea of worker communes and companies that are owned by the workers. I honestly don’t see why I should freak out over another company with a different business model trying to make it in a free market environment, long as things are fair and I don’t have to worry about rotten food being sold as sausages ie. Gilded Age.
When we start to lean towards social welfare programs, which by the way I also don’t hate to be clear, that I become a bit more cautious on as government run programs tend to be very questionable in quality. I say that not because I conflate social welfare with socialism but because there are quite a few socialists who’d also advocate for the above policies in conjunction with their economic ideas.
@@kuo8088 your not a capitalist,
capitalists are people who own the means of production.
@@rationalism_communism Proponent of capitalism, does that make your sense of semantics feel better?
@@kuo8088 support it?
why?
@@kuo8088 Correct term would be an Alienated haha
This is one of the most eye-opening videos for the western world. Most people have no clue what socialism means, so your explanation makes it all the more important! Thank you!! Keep up the great educational work.
WOW you just discovered warm water. Haha what a joke, "most eye-opening" you should read more history my dear friend. Thanks to socialism in Venezuela, teachers earn 2 dollars a month. But in 1998 they earn 350$ a month before chavez and his socialist agenda came to power. Others in my country would die to have 50 euros, but our government destroyed the economy simply to stay in power. And I am from Venezuela, don't even think about saying that they told me.
Americans make me f* angry why they gotta mess with everything next time i see a businessman or rich man imma kick his ass even if i go to jail
He left out the requirement for authoritarian government, though. The socialist has always ignored what political science knows about human rights and role of state.
@@soulcapitalist6204 Wow! I'm impressed how you came up with the simplest possible explanation of socialism.
@@RichardDuncan-ju1xk At least have a critical, open mind when watching the video. You genuinely have nothing to lose but your chains. If it was Soviet propoganda, so what? Is there a problem?
Few years back I was taking some courses for fun at a local community college here in California. At one time the professor asked how many of the students identify as socialists and I eagerly raised my hand, only to realize that I was the only in a class full of young people who audibly scoffed at the idea. It was quite shocking and eye-opening for me. Shocking, because I had assumed young, educated people would be more idealistic. Eye-opening because it made me realize how the propaganda from the red-scare era was still alive in the USA all those generations later. Glad to see channel like this spreading much needed education.
Idealism is an unethical basis of political economy because of it's directly causal to state authoritarianism or nihilistic violence. Only plural materialism is ethical and this is why socialists are regarded as brutes and are locked out on the fringe of acadamia.
It is a human right that people may determine their own economic participation, possess and exploit property for a living and hire and be hired for wages determined in a free job market. This is how UNCHR sees it.
You would have to go to a private school in a economics for non economists course on marxism to be in company of socialists. Anywhere in economics, labor relations, political science and sociology, socialist philosophy and ideation is immoral and irrational and is a heterodoxy like marxist sociology with no merits in the actual field for lacking philosophical and ethical standards.
@@soulcapitalist6204 I might be an idealist but I am not speaking out of an empty air: I am a business owner who pays her employees more than the market rate and also happily pays all my taxes. Still, my business is a very successful one. I only wish I could share what I have with more people in a meaningful way, because just giving to charity will not solve systemic problems. And lets leave crazy fringes where they are;-) I also could not find a proper definition of plural materialism, but I feel we re not that far on the spectrum. After all its not like I don't like money (dah!) - I just want it to be more equitably shared among people.
You may like money. But you don't put it first.
To propagandized Americans, that crosses the line. A totalitarianism of money is the "good guy with a gun" that stops the bad guy, namely, totalitarianism of a more political kind.
Deep down in places we don't talk about, people who don't get their share are the guarantee that the rest of us are free, and a safeguard against tyranny. And it's _natural_ that some won't get their share when money has priority over people.
That constant reference to people as the measure of all good things is what enrages conservatives and moderates alike. People in America are a _resource,_ to be rewarded only to the extent they generate maximum money.
@@Egg_of_the_King
’we should improve society somewhat’
‘Yet you yourself take part in society. Curious. I am very smart’
@@Egg_of_the_King I was literally just quoting a meme
I’m young and know barely anything about politics.
It was just a meme
I remember there was an accident in my school district where some kids died because the gas tank ignited and prevented them from getting off the bus, a judge told the company that made the busses they needed something to prevent this from happening and gave them a timetable to comply. After looking into the problem they found a mesh cage around the gas tank could help prevent whatever happened and the company that made them for the busses would make the cages and add them to future orders for less than a dollar a bus. The bus company was so outraged they had to comply they waited until the very last day to make the change. The change that would help save children's lives. The change that cost them less than a dollar a bus.
This is what happens when profits are placed above people. It is absolutely can be inhumane.
@@alex0_graham And this is why we must fight against politicians privatizing basic needs/utilities.
There's some problems with this comment and example. First, nothing in this world is 100% guaranteed. I'm a skydiver and I jump from perfectly good airplanes. But I like all skydivers know the risks and just one miscalculation, action, etc., can spell disaster. You sign waivers that insurance companies are not responisble to cover treatment should an accident occur. But even with space exploration, look at all of the hundreds of hours that went into research, design, and to perfect success to take humans into space and bring them back. Yet, even with all of that, disasters still occur!
Therefore, look at your own example. What caused the fire to occur in the fist place? Each year auto manufacturers put out vehicles and each year comes new designs, technology, etc. Yet, even with the best intentions, design software, we still have recalls. So to say
"...they found a mesh cage around the gas tank could help prevent whatever happened..." is misleading. You also stated that, "the company that made them for the busses would make the cages and add them to future orders for less than a dollar a bus." But let me ask you how many man hours went into designing said cages? What was the cost of the equipment to make said cages? What was the cost of the material to make said cages? The list goes on and on, and the costs far exceed your $1.00 or less per bus. However, if that is factual, then that would only be possible by the shear amount of buses the cages were installed on. Also there is a ton of complex legal torts that come into play. Liabilities can and are often split in such cases. Such as were all safety laws followed at the time of issue? Where the kids required to ride the bus(es)? Did the manufacturer, in good faith attempt to try make a safe vehicle? Again the list goes on and on.
The long and short is comments like yours leave a lot out. This is what the far left, democrat liberals do. Then when we have a disaster, then we come back and expect radical changes and accountablity that often never happens on either side.
@@danagrey3534 but maybe they should be liable. In a socialist system, there’d be no shareholders arguing against an expenditure, we as society could decide that adding a mesh cage around the fuel tanks would be worth the financial cost. That way everyone is involved with decision making.
@@cooper8357 The way we are, we would have elections all of the time and there is so much that people can't agree on that it would be a nightmare!
It means so much that you mention Chile. My family is from Chile and they left during the reign of Pinochet my grandfather was imprisoned and tortured at the national stadium. The horrific coup that ensued in 1973 was a disgusting example of American intervention in other nations.
My condolences as an American
As a prior service member in the US military I greatly look forward to a possible future in which the US government isn't trying to incite violence and war to make profit. I truly cannot imagine what peace looks like, but I greatly hope for it as I have learned a great many things about what my government has done to other nations. My condolences for your grandfather and rejoicing for the rest of your family being safe.
@@nusaibahibraheem8183 very eloquently stated. All the US cares about is the profit motive. I’m sorry that your country is experiencing the fist of the US I wish you well.
I’m so sorry dude.
As a Chilean, do you notice people falling prey to capitalist propaganda as many Americans do?
This man is a hero. So brave to put his face out there with this content knowing he's kicking the hornet nest
I don't know I think I like capitalism more now. And I'm NO capitalist.
Lol
All he is doing is repeating failed socialist tropes.
thank you for being the voice of reason in an increasingly unreasonable world
And the voice of an ignorant of the real application of communism
Reason refers to logic, not these fallacies. This entire video is a semantic dispute fallacy concerning what socialism is.
@@soulcapitalist6204 No. Too many people mistake Keynesian measures to compensate for capitalism's inadequacies with socialism. They are not. That matters.
@@GabrielHellborne That is no mistake. Socialists recognize a hyper-keynesian means of exchange will also unravel a capitalist mode. You can read Address to the Communist League by the Central Committee for Marx's advocacy of state overburden with welfares. Lenin is famous to the effect of state overspend working to "debauch" currency as a means to undoing capitalism. Axel Kiciloff is a marxist hyperkeynsean who's fucking Argentina up with these ideas.
The socialist perspectives about capitalism as some flawed system are ignorant. Capitalism is the limitation of state in microeconomics - economic human rights - and not economics itself. Keynes wrote up economics itself to find the appropriate role for a currency issuing capitalist nation where there weren't blueprints as yet.
People mistake that UK/Europe was not in the alms and medicine game before Keynes, but Keynes and Frisch (Nordic System) were asked (by the monarchies) to compose modern systems to replace the medieval national churches' roles of 700 years beforehand... to replace this role directly with government instead of government religions like the old days.
@@EduardogivenAuthoritarian* communism.
The day I stopped hating socialism was the day I learned what socialism is. Coincidentally, the day I stopped loving capitalism was the day I learned what capitalism is.
Kind of the opposite for me.
@@jacksonray3596 So back when you thought that socialism is when Stalin and Vuvuzela, you were on board, but now when you realize it's about democracy in workplace, you suddenly see the lights of capitalism? That actually makes a lot of sense, but not in a way you might think.
@@isabella16939 Yeah, kind of a weird self report there eh.
@@francoisgirard2306 Did you watch this video and tell yourself "yeah, China and North Korea do this" really? They're just state capitalist countries. It's literally just capitalism, but even worse.
@@francoisgirard2306 ah yes, the two economic systems: Late Stage Capitalism, and North Corea (not to be confused with Korea). Never mind the fact that China is actually pretty capitalist.
It's ironic that generally pretty much everyone agrees that countries should be run democratically and that there should be no one dictator. Yet, somehow suddenly it is okay for companies and workplaces to work exactly like that. Why aren't we applying democracy to workplaces as well?
Decades of propaganda and non-stop distractions to lead people away from this conclusion.
Because currently they are on inherently different playing fields. Co-ops are a thing too. Private property and its security is arguably one of the major reasons why the West revolutionatized the world order and enriched itself and many other regions.
You can blame the media for all the fear mongering when it comes to socialism. Every single benefit that large companies lobby is in essence is socialist benefit. But as soon as an individual demands those same right/ benefit he’s a communist
@@johkupohkuxd1697 Oh please. The West owes its success largely to global post war conditions and colonialism.
@@johkupohkuxd1697 do you know what was the most important private property at the time? Slaves. It’s not that hard to enrich and develop as a brand new nation if you don’t have to pay for labor at such an industrial scale.
To start this out I just want to say I'm constantly sending your videos to friends because the more people that wake up change will happen sooner.
Another really helpful clip! For anyone who wants a user-friendly guide to how capitalism exploits the workforce, I would suggest reading "A People's Guide to Capitalism" by Hadas Thier. She explains in detail and in an accessible way how the value of our wage is always significantly less than the value we create - and how the system known as capitalism is based on endless expansion, leading to conflict and environmental degradation in the non-stop quest for profits.
When I was in high school I asked my history teacher to explain what was so bad about socialism. Their answer was "It just is". I remain, to this day, unconvinced.
Socialism is by no means bad in of itself, but the idea with socialism is that you pay huge amounts of taxes to the government, and in return you get benefits such as free healthcare and education, allowance in case you get sick or fired and a secured pension that is partly paid by the taxpayers.
that is all well and good - as long as you can trust the government. and that is where the socialist dream usually end. i am swedish so i grew up in a country that was the main role model for a socialist society - we paid (and still pay) more than half our salary in income tax, social taxes, vat etc but we had alot of benefits other countries can only dream of. today however, most of these benefits are highly compromized. the hospitals are so overloaded some people dont get to remove their tumours in time before they become incurable, schools are reporting worse grades statistics for each year, crimes skyrocket, and yeah, a big portion of the taxpayers money goes to subsidize worthless climate projects and to pay allowance for refugees - people who havent even grown up in sweden and who will never be able to have a job and be able to pay back.
because of this, sweden is now in a state where we have some of the highest gun crimes in europe and people in sweden can no longer pay electricity. not only because the government has replaced nuclear factories with wind power and russian gas that is now sanctioned, but because the purchase tax on electricity is close to 50 percent.
that is, what a swede like me tells you, is so bad about socialism. it gives too much power to the state and before you know it your entire future is determined by ideological bullshit.
You guys just didn’t do socialism right! (Sarcasm). Thank you for your comment.
@@morganjonasson2947 you are not living under socialism, sweden is and was never socialist, it's still strictly capitalism but with added welfare
@@RazaMK lol you cant really call a society capitalistic if the population has to pay over 50 percent in pure taxes to the government. first, there is 30 percent in income tax of the "full salary". however, the employer has to pay additional social taxes on top of your "full" salary of 20 percent, meaning, you may believe you receive 20k out of 30k but in reality you receive in net salary 20k out of 36k - close to only half of what what the employer is paying. then there is VAT taxes of around 20 percent making everything you buy 20 percent more expensive, so of 36k that the employer pays for employing you, you only receive 16k. then i havent even included the ridiculous taxes they have on energy commodities such as electricity and fuel (sweden has the highest fuel price in europe and once in the world, even exceeding hong kong, just because of the taxes). so you pay more than half your salary to the government and call sweden a capitalistic country? no, simply no. you cant have a free market when half of peoples earnings go to the state, because then government will have the major power over what gets subsidized with taxpayers money and what is put on extra taxes. thats why we have so much windpower in sweden while nuclear factories are closing down akd causing energy shortage - its not because nuclear factories arent profitable, but because the government has put extra taxes and restrictions on nuclear energy making it unprofitable. such thing never happen in a capjtalistic society. by your standard even china would be capitalistic which i would argue they only are on the surface, but not in reality, which make sense considering that the government is called chinese communist party (ccp).
What if when you were in high school you an all your class mates had to get a job and pay for it directly? Would as many have graduated? Probably not. We don't do this to high school and below, so why do we do it with college?
While I was in 6th grade, my class learned about South America. There was a line in the textbook that literally said, "Chile's Communist dictatorship was overthrown by a U.S. backed military coup." Our OFFICIAL school textbooks lie about history.
"Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable." -George Orwell
Bro, but that happen
@@Human-163 it wasn't a communist dictatorship lmao, salvador allende was a democratically elected president
@@gormit7463 well I agree, he wasn't a dictator but he was overthrown.
That's... actually pretty honest, my textbook said it was because he seized power, and the people rebelled, and all that bs.
@@Human-163 He unconstitutionally removed several Supreme Court Judges that had ruled against him, and unconstitutionally tried to dissolve the Legislature. Dictator.
This is why education and knowledge is so important for the progression of a society. Societies exist because of its people.
I happened upon your channel from a different video essay channel and I am so grateful. Trying to start learning more
As someone with social anxiety, much respect for going on camera rather than your standard voice over narration. Quality content as always dude
socialism doesn't work, hypocrite snowflake
Agreed. Especially with how crazy people are on the interwebs these days.
Is he a socialist ?
dude, it's not a live TED Talk
@@iche9373 dude, that’s why I said going on camera. Not going in front of a live audience, dude
Took me a second to realise that it was you talking, good to see you mate, looking forward to sharing this👌🏻
Same I only realized it was him like a minute in
same
I was like why is there a video of a person talking while he is?
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This was a year ago, but I hope that the metrics have turned around, and that you are in a more supported position now. I started watching your videos to understand what the Moderate partyparty was about, and I stuck around to try to understand more about politics in general. I find your messages clear and your delivery clean with just enough personality touched in. Thank you.
I'm a successful plumber who would like to purchase the plumbing company I work for and turn it into a worker run cooperative. Each worker of a certain number of years would be given a share of the company profits (minus the cost of purchasing it in the first place, which would be paid down first) on top of their salary spit evenly regardless their position in the company as well as a voting share in company descisions. I would rather see 15 of us living very well, with bright futures for us and our families then only one of us living high on the hog while the other 14 scrape by. I cant even imagine how high the staff retention rate would be and we would surely attract and retain top talent from the apprentice pool as the thought of being part of something greater than the sum of its parts is very alluring for many of us in the trades (and humanity at large). This is my dream and I'm pretty sure it could work once the kinks get ironed out.
Democratic socialism for the win.
I cant wait untill the working class emerges from the fog of intense conservative capitalist propaganda and starts to embrace socialism again. The time is ripe for sweeping change. They don't care about us so we have to take what's ours.
@@geneherald8169 Its an experiment I want to try. I have been very lucky in life which has put me in a financial position to be able to purchase the company when it becomes available (likely soon) due to the current owners advanced age and even have it fail while still not suffering any ill financial effects personally. Why not give it a go and see what the outcome is? I am secure in my thinking despite your doubts, but I do indeed respect them as this plan goes against the common narrative. Regardless the outcome of this choice, my financial situation will not really suffer but the other plumbers I work with have everything to gain by this choice so let's see what happens? I would rather plow the profits into their hands then invest it in a faceless market. I would rather see these hardworking and tough people who I have worked with for a decade be able to have the money to educate their kids and take 1 month vacations every year while potentialy investing the money themselves with those potential profits going to them and theirs rather then further padding my already substantial holdings. Capitalism has been fucking great...for me and mine. But not everyone is a genius married to a genius, white and priveledged out the wazoo like I am. And I am. Not everyone has the capacity to play this flawed system like a fiddle all the way to the bank the way I have been able to (up to this point at least). I'm not a religious man so I want to be able to see the outcome of good deeds and works during what is likely my one and only existance. That's where I'm at. There's no risk to me and I'm an endlessly curious person who quite often can't stand the status quo, so I'm excited to try something new. Capitalism bores me at this point and is not morally correct in its current take no prisoners form, in my estimation. Its the exact opposite of what pretty much every single religious teaching advises in every single way at least as practised in the west. To see my life from an outside view you would never know my financial status. We have kept things very very low key and modest around these parts but rest assured I'm in my mid forties now and could retire any time I want to and live and do pretty much anything I want to comfortably and on a whim... But the curiosity Compels me. The business also generates close to 8 million a year in profit so split 10 ways that's quite a bit for everyone involved over and above what a plumber usually makes. Can't wait to get this experiment rolling. I'm sure you will be hearing about it one day for better or worse lol
@@geneherald8169 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative
Lots of positives dude...
Honestly sounds kinda cool, give it a shot
Lol. Don't buy the corporate equity if you don't believe in it. If you do, why not use real shares so your staff can achieve some wealth from all their decisions like real owners?
@soulcapitalist6204 Not interested. Rather try something new.
The use of "tactical white guy" was exemplary. It sucks that optics matter as much as they do for what you intend this video to do, but they do, and it's good that you understand that and can use it to our advantage.
The lack of maid outfit is a real downer though.
is 'tactical white guy' from something?
@@Matty002 not that I'm aware of. I just saw it in a previous comment and instantly knew exactly what it meant.
@@jamesculverhouse4657 I've yet to check out the deprogram, but I need to, Hakim is my favorite TH-cam creator.
As far as tactics go: Would it be good, or would it be viewed as confrontational, to address the typical thought-terminating cliches used by the right, and by the base they have convinced they are working toward their interests, in a Q&A section? I mean things like "socialism is great -- until you run out of other peoples' money!" Answering truthfully -- that it isn't their money, that they stole it -- tends to meet with hard incredulity that can only be circumvented by addressing a person's entire worldview, is what it feels like to me. So how do we address these thought-terminating cliches that seem to make people disregard the fact that those have already been answered, just like this video does, by talking about how employers take surplus productivity and turn it into profit?
“Tactical white guy deployed!” Lol this was a great video thank you JT
That made me think of Luna oi shooting EJ out of a cannon
@@georgekostaras 😂🤣😂
Yo no way it's throats
@@David-hj4wo Sh*t you found me!!
@@georgekostaras plz tell me that’s a real thing 😱
I always believed that the fact we have to pay for food and other things we need to survive was inherently violent. I always believed in what socialism represents but I was taught that communism was bad. When I finally learned what communism represents, I started calling myself one.
Slaves didn't have to pay for food and were guaranteed work like your Karl Marx called for the state to enforce (in his Critique of the Gotha Program)
@@soulcapitalist6204 Owning people as property is inherently evil, I don't care If they are garanteed food and shelter.
@@TheProletariat321 A socialist mode of production owns labor and the means of production and has facilitated state slave labor under the soviets and nazis. Anyone advocating for it, especially in social democracies, is advocating for slavery.
A lot of students school find it boring , depending on schools and place. Hispanic or black ain’t into it … they rather listen to rap music , and that’s why people don’t know learn …. Knowledge kept hidden …
Very nice though I'd like to add that the "boss" he refers to here who has the power and freedom isn't your low-level manager. It's the owner or owners of the company, plus those in executive positions.
I would even extend it to the major shareholders at the top.
As a more “advanced” socialist, I really appreciated this video full heartedly. Keeping it simple and using a kind tone really helps people who might have just begun to learn this stuff. I’m certain it would have helped me in my journey. Also, really cool to finally put a face on you, JT. Keep up the good work, comrade.
Conpletely agreed. I also found the vid to be a bit simple/reductive, but when I think about the purpose of the vid, it makes a lot more sense. This is the kind of content we need as socialists.
@@musicdev Yes! We as socialists must accept that our end goal is not to have every single person in the world subscribe to our philosophical interpretation of theory. Our end goal is to build socialism and work towards establishing communism. This requires people believing in our message and having at least a baseline understanding of what our movement is attempting to build. Generally: a world were the proletariat are in control of their destiny. The proletariat already has enough on its hands being exploited at work. It is not their time we must ask of them (in this case time invested in learning theory), but their support. It is only in this way, together and in unison were we shall not be overcome.
Advanced socialist? More like advancedly investigated from the fbi ha gottem
@@chumi269 Hey! That was a great joke, buddy. Great job!
Woah, a fellow boricua. Greetings.
I bought a couple cheap stocks for Ford and a shareholder’s ‘meeting’ was held, really an email was sent out to all the shareholders about different problems that needed to be voted on and the kind of stuff we voted on was pretty mundane except for ONE: whether or not Ford, as a company, should work toward ensuring none of its products were made through child labor in foreign countries. It was a no brainer, yes we should stop child labor, but what threw me off was the “advisors recommend voting against this proposition”. I mean seriously, what the hell
Child labor is cheap so under capitalism child labor=good
@@alecbraun6272 Child labor is actually unavoidable in car manufacture or in electronics manufacture altogether. Ford could choose to bullshit itself like it is going to invade Central African Republic and install a Ford government with age restrictions that make the families there starve, or they can stick with the reality that most 12 year olds have been part of their family economies and our 12 year olds are rare, privileged exceptions.
Child labor is great for profit. Currently many anti child labor laws are being removed in America. Tesla had a huge scandal because musk owned mines that used kids as young as 8. Luckily I life in a country most hot blooded Americans call a socialist hellhole. So there are so many labor laws that protect workers that I can't even be fired without a VERY good reason such as stealing
@@lars7747 and where's that
So heartbreaking!
immediately went to see if sources were listed for some of the stats and they were. Good work man.
Amazing video. I always supported socialism but had questions about it, if it would really work or if it’s just utopia. This videos answered all my questions. The mention of what happened in Chile was perfect! Great job!
The Allende tale has always been heartbreaking for me. How anyone with a functioning brain can hear it and still think that the american empire is anything but vile is beyond me.
When you are heartbroken about that, don’t inform yourself about the middle east. What Europe and America did and doing there in the name of freedom and democracy is cruel. The first world runs on the fuel that is called the 3. world. As the capitalist exploit the working class, so do the rich countries exploit the poor.
But nothing will change, when the majority is silent.
First of all, the US attempts to overthrow Allende were obviously morally wrong.
On the other side they were also mostly unneccesary.
What he failed to mention in the video, just a year after the initial success, Chilean economy went into a deep decline and by the time he was overthrown the country was in a much worse place then before his rule.
I'm sure the US contribute to increase the crisis but they did not create it.
@@PLHarpoon Finally, someone says it!
@@PLHarpoon Lmao because this wasn't during the height of the Cold War's acceleration into a massive, global economic blockade, with the US and Europe effectively re-engineering the entire global economic structure, consolidating the carcasses of former empires into the united Western imperial core, or anything, no, not at all. No cap this is a great troll comment, thank you for giving me a good laugh. lool
Yeah but I think we can all admit that the Soviets were worse in terms of imperialism
The new format actually feels more honest in a way. 10/10 can't wait for the next one
It took me a hard second to realize that it was actually HIM talking. Kinda floors me, not in a bad way. Just a bit jarring! LOL
socialism doesn't work, hypocrite snowflake
Just wanted to say a belated Thank You for this video.
This gives me a starting point in talking to people about this wonderful idea of Socialism that I'm beginning to dig into wholeheartedly. It gives me a starting point for my own learning and growth as well.
Congratularions friend! Do you have any books to suggest?
one thing about socialism or communism idea is that the full democracy is hard or even impossible to achieve, the reality is that every decision costs the time and resources to be made, and the amount of the resources costed is proportional with the participators involved, it ends up with the consequence that we cost all our time making decision yet still unable to do it well and have no time to accomplish other things that are more important like production. We can only imagine a future that the machine fully replace the human labor in the production and we optimize the decision-making process with education and technology, yet the possibility of such status stays ambiguous. And the fact is that most of the regime we called communism like USSR and Communism China ends up building a totalitarianism government that is totally against the idea of democracy or egalitarianism.
I owe my appreciation for the concept of socialism to my sociology professor. I took every one of his courses he taught at my university because he was so eye opening and thought provoking. If you're out there Dr. Wilson, I appreciate you and your weird hippy ponytail.
That’s great and hilarious! I first learned true Marxism from a philosophy professor!
I’m kinda late. Recent veteran and the George Floyd BLM protests woke me up when I got involved online
liberal agenda brother!!! 🥸
Weird hippy ponytail 😂
My studies and several professors in philosophy, history, and anthropology were my academic interest in socialism began. Before that, it was largely Star Trek, Robin Hood, and The Newsies. Lol
Another thing comes to mind about socialism is how “property” is defined. Socialists I knew when I was in college and grad school were against private property rights, which to them meant you didn’t own clothes on your back, your home, your food, your bed, your pets, your books, etc. literally everything in their definition was owned by the government, which is something that I always thought was insane. It’s only over the past few years that I understood those “socialists” confused the difference between private property and personal property. Things like factories, businesses, and real estate are privately owned in a capitalist society, which is what socialists really take aim at. On the other hand, things like your personal property (clothes, food, furniture, personal photos, books, family momentous, etc) are not considered public property by socialists if I understand correctly. Nevertheless, most people my generation are stuck with that misconception because of how socialists have been using language in their communication with non-socialists.
Nope, it's it the language socialists have been using to other people... It's capitalists using a deliberately incorrect definition of socialism to smear it. The best way to attack an idea is to attack a deliberately incorrect version of it
socialism is when no toothbrush 🪥 is probably the best meme born out of this misconception
@@Nat3_H1gg3rs who owned and perpetuated chartel slavery?
I believe Marx himself explicitly stated the difference between private property and personal property. Private property being means of production and other types of property owned by capitalists that are only "lent" to the proletariat by the capitalists, but never owned by them. Personal property are just that, personal: House, bed, books you buy, toothbrush even (even though socialism is when no toothbrush) etc.
I think the majority of socialist videos that explain theory makes this clear. Xexizy has a great video on Marx & property: th-cam.com/video/klHrW-2zx64/w-d-xo.html
@@LinusE you’re right. But I think many people that call themselves socialists, at least when I was younger, didn’t understand that distinction. I think socialists need to carefully consider how their words are being interpreted by their audience if they want to persuade more people.
I watched the video hoping to learn about socialism but you talked about capitalism more than socialism. The video is greatly produced but i did not get what i was searching for. The title does not do justice. The title says socialism for beginners but the video is more like capitalism bad, socialism good. Again, good work on the video but not the right title for it.
Thank you for the interesting video. Ive felt these sentiments from time to time, but never actually realized what they led to before I discovered your channel and a few others. Many thanks for the insight👍
Chile: "We just made Socialism work!"
CIA: "So anyway I started blasting!"
What like Cuba, Venezuela or Bolivian "socialism"???? Give me a f_king break
USA: “shoots Cuba” look at what socialism did to him!
@@wilno7579 ... in India during british rule.
The CIA and FBI messing with forgein affairs causing several corrupt governments is so wild dude
@@wilno7579 In Ireland during British rule?
I came to this video with a somewhat open-mind but was mainly skeptic and was ready to spout counterpoint after counterpoint. Then I realized, I agreed with almost everything in the video. I ignorantly thought was a shooting for was a more practical capitalism, with necessitates cared for so society can develop. Come to realize, I wa socialist all along
Capitalism doesn't care about society. Capital wants necessity and practicality only for the class of people who manage and own things.
Everyone I bring socialism up with calls me a commie lol, shows how uneducated some people are
Both systems are terrible, as a someone from Transylvania I can only say, NEVER AGAIN!
@@alexsionii haha we should just not be controlled by anything
In case anyone takes this comment the wrong way, this is a JOKE.
this was quite insightful. I am an aspiring business owner and have mixed feelings about BOTH socialism and capitalism. but your work here is quite interesting. Great stuff! Keep doing what you do. It's important to learn perspectives we're don't always agree with 100%
Weird thing is my dad says he hates socialism. That socialism ruins countries. I asked him to describe a system that would work in all these failed socialist countries he keeps yammering about. He described roughly what you described as socialism and said it was capitalism. The "anti socialist" in my family is an even bigger socialist than me. Wtf does that tell you?
We are not immune to propaganda?
that they have been indoctrinated, heavily
It shows the power of propaganda
He's Huey Long reincarnated, that's what
Name a country where Socialism appear and significantly made everyone's life better? Every where Socialism goes, people suffer and die.
found this video through a QR code sticker on a random table outside the college police building of my college campus. Keep up the good work👍🏻
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Damn that’s wicked. I can make and print stickers and QR codes all day. Good day.
Based
That's hilarious. Glad people care about keeping college students informed.
Damn I'm thinking of doing the same now
I would love to share this video with family and friends but none of them know english!
Anyways thanks for this video. It will serve me as a guide to explain socialism. Especially when I encounter people with conservative views who do not read.
Isn't that the vast majority of them? 😆
@@ssurfcity😂
it's very important to note that countries like the US and Great Britain grew so large in power not only because of government control but also because of this massive factor that is imperialism.
really it wasn't great britain, or the uk, but england that set itself on the path to wealth, and did so not through imperialism or government control so much as piracy. robbing treasures stolen from the americas by other europeans was the start point, and provided the wealth to build the machinery of imperialism. this was not long after the annexation of wales, but before scotland got dragged into it. as for imperialism on its own, that had been tried in ireland for several hundred years, and, despite that piracy paralleling the first stages of large-scale colonisation, it didn't really deliver much of significance in terms of revenue on its own. the sequence, roughly, was 1) get capital (by robbing it), 2) use the capital to buy or make the required equipment (ships, armies etc.), 3) use the equipment to grab and hold key resources (imperialism + tobacco, cotton, sugar etc), 4) use the wealth these generate to expand (grow the colonial empire), 5) maximise returns (slave labour), 6) improve technology (industrialisation), 7) maximise returns more (child labour, zero worker rights, etc), 8) destroy opposition production in colonised areas (eg india), 9) get into even more addictive drigs (e.g. opium trade), 10) when the creaking mess inevitably falls apart a few decades after its peak do what you can to weaken the independent states that emerge (ireland, iraq, palestine, half the caribbean, half of africa, the entire indian subcontinent and surrounding states). and finally 11) refuse despite overwhelming evidence to admit anything is your fault, claim you remain a 'world power,' lie to your own people, claim to have a 'special relationship' with the popular jock in the class (USA), and whinge about the single biggest thing propping up your economy (the EU) to the point you leave and return your country to its pre-industrial revolution state as an unattractive peripheral island state with a weak economy, disgruntled populace, little ability to better its lot, and a 'ruling class' that asset-strips what's left even while a large and rapidly growing part of the population literally have to rely on charity in order to get enough food.
yes, that was longer than planned. I may just possibly maybe have a personal interest in the UK situation. :-)
Socialist government comes to power through populism, then when people get tired of populism they begin to control and censor to end up being a dictatorship in disguise. And they end up being worse than an imperialist country. A side note: all countries are imperialist, so believe me - I am a survivor of socialism - a free imperialist country is better than a socialist and communist imperialist one. If not before trying to install a socialist government in your country, come and live in Venezuela, you will have a great time on its beaches and with its people, but you will not want to live here.
US and UK wealth can't be generalized with one another. This sort of analysis is why socialists look like flattards whenever matters of history or economy are raised.
I think it is mostly imperialism rather than government control. This guy just bends history to his goals.
The Dutch became the global superpower because they created the biggest, most successful CORPORATION to do colonialism.
Really, if imperialism and colonialism is so great, then why did Rome fell, or why is the middle east not the dominant global power.
Also you need power to do imperialism, weak countries don't have the force or resources do it. its not a chicken and egg type question, we know what needs to come first here.
So technology also a big factor. No that imperialism is complete nonsense economists have also shown it costed more then what it brought in.
I am by no means a beginner, but I appreciate that you make this kind of videos. More people should learn about this
Thank you so much for making this video. I've held the views for a good amount of time and I never wanted to say 'Socialist' because it's such a scary word to so many, but this video and other resources made me more comfortable with terminology that can be viewed "extremist" by many
Hey I really liked your video. I really think you did a great job explaining in a easy way what socialism is about. I think i would be cool if you used different lenguages tracks or subtitles so it can reach a wider audience. I offer my self to do it for Spanish if you like
When I first asked myself what socialism is, after hearing so much propaganda, I turned to TH-cam. The videos were long and theory based, aka not accessible for me to understand clearly. After finding some videos explaining that in its simplest form (democracy in the workplace) it really started to resonate with me and helped me understand why my working life has been so miserable. This is a great tool for many to digest the basics and help expand their world view!
That's why DeSantis tried to give Florida state government the power to control TH-cam. Right wingers fear letting people learn on their own.
Basically socialism is the government involved in your everyday life controlling everything .. that’s happening now
@@notme1728 Oh, if it's happening right now, we already have socialism. So meeting adjourned.
Yess. I’m trying my best to understand but I end up searching up words every 5 seconds, if this is going to help the working class they’ll need to talk like the working class
I am not new to the idea of socialism, but it's nice with videos like these that explain it in a digestable way. I don't mind the more in depth stuff of course👉👉
I wish I had had something like this back in my teens. I learned about socialism through a very particular set of events and I might've very easily gone a different route. We should facilitate these resources to people. This video and You're Probably Already a Socialist are essential
But if we actually taught what socialism is, the capitalist system would collapse, and sadly the capitalists control everything
You wished you had one sided propaganda against the current system, which is blamed on the economic policy you don't like and isn't properly represented? To each his own I guess.
I feel remarkably similar. Thanks for sharing!
Regarding the rudely phrased comment (you know the one 😉), this channel may be one point of view but isn't that the point? Tone and delivery are clearly aimed at a specific audience and most videos appear to me as opinion pieces backed up by critical analysis. That doesn't discount its educational worth and no one's expected to base their ideology on one video
@@lprisco it doesn't have educational worth. Every person who studied economics and supports Capitalism has at least felt the need to face palm between half and a dozen times during this video.
The guy literally blamed housing, education and healthcare costs on Capitalism.
@@masscreationbroadcasts Yeah, there's something about an evonomics education that makes economists gravitate hard towards capitalism. If you want to hear a more pluralistic economist poking holes in TH-cam leftists' more, er, optimistic suggestions, Unlearning Economics has a small series of response videos.
It’s also interesting to consider whether the rising living standards we’re attributing to capitalism are actually a result of capitalism itself or socialization under capitalism (eg increasing public spending and access to education, health, retirement, disability pensions, housing, social insurance, etc)
It's called keynesianism and is responsible for the raised standards, actually beginning long before keynes was born and later documented the phenomenon.
Only capitalist economies are capable of this due to the basis of "socialiization" in a private, market based means of exchange.
Amazing content, Amazing person. Dude I've followed you for some time and I have to say your content needs to be shown in schools.
The problem with the ideal view of the 50s and how "capitalism used to work" is that, even then it only did so because of massive exploitation of classes that are just ignored.
Immigrant workers, colonial and quasi-colonial systems etc.
There are no classes.
@@gholland5840 ? An example of class would be a small margin of people being able to afford housing, then buy up the street and rent those out to prevent lower income people from buying those properties. An 'extreme' example would be the situation in Canada right now. British Columbia's avg house cost is a million dollars 😥 Rich people flipping houses for money driving the cost up. How am I supposed to buy a house as a middle income worker :s
@@GreasyGary 70% of people own their homes, you are just too lazy to work and create enough value to pay construction workers for 2500 hours of labor
@@gholland5840 Oh so you’re just one of those
@@gholland5840 the old “you’re too lazy” or “you have a character flaw” troupes are outdated talking points. Anything original?
I don't know if this is the first time you've included a talking head shot of yourself in between your expertly selected Storyblocks, but i found it to be an even more enjoyable video than usual. Wonderful job!
Now to spam all my group chats and Discord servers with this video link 😇
socialism doesn't work, hypocrite snowflake
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Steven you seem like a nice person
@@blake..- thanks!
I also think you seem like a nice person, Steven
Thank you so much for vids like this. I'm a pretty stupid person, generally speaking and videos like these actually help me a lot and we do not have content creators like you in Germany. So.. Again, thank you so much for this!
Just make sure to listen to both sides.
@@moldybread8313shut up man holy fuck
@@moldybread8313what do you mean? A lot of people come to this video because they live in America or another type of capitalist society and they’re tired of it…
There is jothing wrong with socialism as a voluntary arrangement. In a free society any group is free to pool their resources and live comunally, whether they call it a commune, a kibbutz, a monastery, or a family, it's nobody else's business, somlong as everyone entered into the association freely, and is free to leave.
The problem with socialism is when people with guns come and force everyone to live communally.
Its essentially a return to feudalism.
I think you showing your face really humanizes the channel in a way that helps to remove the bogeyman aspect of Socialism. Keep up the quality content :)
I’m a patron and watched this the moment it was available.
One of the best videos! Give it all the likes, comments, and shares as you can!
Don't patrons get a early access to videos?
Edit: apparantly not, I just assumed all youtubers give early access to patrons.
Thanks so much!
@@monika.alt197 yes that’s what I meant haha
Patrons do get early access!
@@SecondThought of course JT!
@@tylerblue9691 oh I might have not read the tier descriptions very clearly
I think a lot about this post I once saw online. I don't remember the exact wording at this point, but it was a response to all the people angry about younger generations supporting the idea of socialism, and said "It's not that I support Socialism, but if you keep classifying more and more basic human rights like food security and affordable healthcare and fair wages as 'socialism', then I guess yes, I'm going to support it." It's not that word itself that is attractive to young people, it's what we're told it would provide. If you called it something else, that would become the thing they support instead. People have used 'socialism' as a term to describe any economic model they don't like (in the same way 'millennial' became the go-to term for 'young people I don't like'); for most people it's just a word at this point.
Thank you so very much for all of your videos. I discovered you recently and love your work.
"The inability to imagine a world in which things are different is only evidence of a poor imagination, not of the impossibility of change"
Rutger Bregman
socialism doesn't work, hypocrite snowflake
Even my parents who grew up in a communist country resenting the military police crackdowns against protest had to admit that the system was better at providing health care, education, and other human needs. As our countries increasingly show that they don't care about these things, and constantly defund budgets for actually improving quality of life while ramping up police and military budgets, I can't help but think that all the propaganda against socialist countries from capitalist ones is just projection. It's time to get more people educated and organized so we can (re)build systems that actually serve human needs instead of just making a line go up. Thanks for another video JT!
This reminds me of a quote, can't exactly remember where i got it, but "everything Stalin was accused of, Churchill actually did."
What is JT??
@@rhyleigh_hades the guy that made the video
@@techissus7449
Yeah, Churchill the monster who had caused faminine in India and it took 3 million lives.
Living standards have decreased globally due to capitalism, so when you say it improved the lives of some people, again this is that 1000, 1%.
I found out i was a socialist eariler this year in February because of this channel and i wanna thank you for that while i still am young with it im still pround to be one because i believe their can be a better world with socialism but mostly that equlity and more freer society can happen even if i know its not perfect.
I bet you wouldn't wanna live in any socialist country.
@@meeraj-4774 china and such are failed socialist countries
@@meeraj-4774 I wouldn't consider them socialist at all
@@meeraj-4774 Communist* country. Fixed it for you.
@@thecrazycapmaster communisim states cant exsist beacuse communisim is stateless by definition
When I was in high school, in my senior class, one of my classmates was actually a registered communist - and this was in 2006. He even worse a pin of the Soviet flag on his letterman jacket.
This classmate was one of my best friends in high school, and we have kept in touch since. One of the jokes that he made and I have used since then was that he was one of the three members of the American Communist Party.
At the time, I had...something of a better understanding about socialism and communism than most others in my home of central Texas, though it was not really that much better. I had this understanding before I first met my friend, and while he mentioned his political affiliation on occasion, it was pretty much always in jest.
Then about ten years later, I started half-jokingly saying, "Well, meet America's fourth communist."👉😏 Then about a year after that, it more-or-less stopped being a joke, though I still keep a humorous tone whenever I say it.
Then within a year since I started that, my brother started saying, "Meet America's fifth communist." Then our cousin started saying that she was now the sixth - and she was a cop when she started that.
This all occurred *LONG* before I even heard of Second Thought or Yugopnik or Farron Cousins or Beau of the Fifth Column or pretty much all other lefty media. Still, watching and having this video helps.
Wearing a pin of the Soviet flag in an American high school? What an absolute chad!
Had a whole clique of socialist/commie kids at my high school though at the time, it didn’t occur to me that’s what they were. They wore those pins and beret hats. I had just assumed they were into punk rock or something.
What was the strangest during the time was most of them were Cuban or Puerto Rican so I’m sure you can understand my confused propagandized brain as to why a Cuban would proudly be a socialist.
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@@PC42190 😂😂😂yeah
@@PC42190 the soviets were terrible, USSR failed horrifically they shouldn’t be glorified
This association between USSR and socialism makes it harder for socialism to actually be accepted, socialism is not even similar to the USSR and shouldn’t be treated as such
One of my favorite things is that “socialism” is a very broad category with many variations and other ideologies included. Communism is often considered a socialist ideology, or socialism is seen as a transition to it. Many anarchists hold socialist beliefs. There are market socialists and democratic socialists all over. The only thing that defines a socialist is the desire to build a society with more equal power distribution and better quality of life. Because of this, even people I don’t agree with on the little things can become allies. We can work together I’m various ways because the means of getting to our goals and the goals themselves tend to overlap. It can often seem like the left is super disunified when compared to the right, largely because there is only one thing to conserve while there are infinite paths away from neo-liberal capitalism. But when you step back and think “I’m a socialist” and look at everyone else who is/could be/would be one, it feels a lot less unattainable.
Socialism ends when other people's money runs out.
exactly this. this is why (as an ancom) it's so frustrating to me when anarchists and ML's and other micro-ideologies of leftists infight so bitterly. we all have a common cause and our differences, in the face of our enemies is so minute there's no reason for hostility, all we're doing is shooting each other in the knee and giving capitalism free reign in the background.
Ok, in this video, you explained the goals of socialism, but how does socialism achieve these goals?
1) How to correctly distribute goods considering demand and scarcity? How to optimally do so, updating the distribution in real-time while the demand and scary conditions consistently change from time to time. What is the "democratic way" of extremely fast and efficiently deciding that 24/7 for billions of people across different territories, cultures, and social contexts?
2) How to guarantee the sovereignty and authority of such "democratic decisions", avoiding hierarchy and corruption? What exactly would impede a group of individuals who will constantly try to take control?
3) Socialism was tested with a large sample multiple times across the globe and with various cultures. Before the implementation of a socialist system, many economists had already pointed out several inconsistencies and flaws. When the system was implemented, those flaws consistently repeated throughout all socialist experiences. Today and throughout history, citizens from socialist countries attempt to flee from their nations and move to capitalist countries, while citizens from capitalist countries flee their nation to other nations who are more capitalists.
I am Brazillian, a country with free healthcare and more governmental assistance than the US. I am currently living in Florida, and there are many cubans and venezuelans here. I also know people from all around the world, even from countries known for their low economic disparities and effective governmental assistance, such as Sweden, Finland etc. I can say that my and all of these other people experiences is that: we are better off here than we were at our nations.
The examples of citizens from Americans who move out and live in other countries are very scarce. The ones who do, usually move to Mexico, Canada or the UK, all countries that somewhat are similar/resemble the US.
What do you have to say about these practical examples?
The background “noise” that gets louder and louder interferes with watching this. Too bad. Seems like a very informative and useful video.
The part about the coup in Chile was shocking. This channel makes me rethink so much about politics and history. Thank you for these videos.
Foreigners speakling how great socialism was in Chile during the 70's should be ashamed of themselves having never experienced the horror that Allende's reign was, it must be really nice trying to speak good things from the suffering of thousands from the comfort of your own rich country, absolutely embarassing.
@@Nyoterasu Whilst during Pinochet the poor suffered more. So what anyway???
@@Nyoterasu It's much more embarrassing to speak someone with an anime pfp and say "socialism is bad" just because your well-off parents told you so.
@@Nyoterasu "thousands" you mean the middle and upper middle and upper class???
@@Nyoterasu amigo, don't lie and just go and read the CIA declassified documents about the blocking of the economy during Salvador Allende's presidency
I found your channel about a year ago and it has completely changed my world view. You're an inspiration and I appreciate the work you do!
I love the new style; you did a great job lighting your scene! Adding the purple accent light to the background and another one to spill on your shadow side is a nice touch! I love the idea of using the colored light as a fill light which makes the whole image blend together well. The only thing I would suggest is setting up a kicker light on camera right with the fill side. This will define you better from your background as you fall off into darkness a little bit on that side. Other than that small tweak I think you did a great job lighting this scene! Keep up the good work!
(Also maybe slide your whole shot camera left a little bit to center yourself on the computer monitor and wall art a little more, it is close though!)
Yeah boy. 👏👏👍 That's a solid win. Keep at it!
Hey, thanks so much! I’m glad you appreciate the set! And yeah, the lighting is definitely a work in progress. I have some little led spots on the wall shelving that I was hoping would act as a hair light, but they just don’t have the power. So glad you’ve enjoyed my content!
@@SecondThought Can you do a video tying SOCIALISM with the belief in a Creator via God because conservatives who claim to be against “socialism” don’t understand that God is a socialist who provided human beings and other living creatures FREE habitable planet (earth) where food, shelter, vegetations, intelligence, etc is given to them. Thank you!
if he was a real socialist he would be posting his videos on peer to peer platforms and support those platforms.
Instead he supports a state controlled capitalism which is ironically fascistic. This is why he uses TH-cam (a product of one of the most successful capitalistic projects). He would like a socialist society where there is a state youtube.
Socialism will always fail because of corruption of micromanagers / groupthink / etc. Once a "bad guy" gets access to a socialist system it will become national socialist (nazism). The State is a corporation. Socialism means that the state will end up controlling everything and you'll have no recourse because you will not even own your own mind.
@@SecondThought When are you donating your ad sense to the poor? You're just milking views from dumb youth
I would guess that the stability and gains mentioned at min 7:05 were given to the working class due to the need yo compete with the USSR, that is why the capitalists held themselves in check and shared a bit more of their wealth. For the last 30 years it is getting worse as there is nobody to put them in place...
This was theory developed by John Keynes and not from any competition with the most brutal and poorly run major economy on earth.
USSR did not present any competition for capitalism regarding working conditions, broad wealth or other political economic matters. They only presented a military threat and this was only credible due to their nuclear capability.
Thank you for this, all my teacher said was "it's communism" and told me to write an essay of how capitalism or socialism is better
One of the main issues in the US is the fact that people get shut down as soon as they try to talk about Socialism to non-Socialists. The government has been braineashing people for way too long to the point where people don't do their research to make a sound conclusion of the topic.
There should be some kind of place on the internet or in real life where you can go to talk about big issues like this, where there are ground rules stopping people from dismissing unpopular/controversial points of view simply based on them being unpopular/controversial. I think this would weed out the reactionaries and similar sort of people and help foster actual meaningful discussions of problems. We'd get to hear actual arguments instead of arguments driven by the underlying belief of "X is bad because that's what society says/because thats what everyone around me believes".
My exact experiance over and over and over again.
@@skatesatgod-fusion2619 Forums must have a TOS or they get infested with Nazis, just look at some parts of 4Chan, where people get radicalized like the Buffalo shooter from 2-3 days ago
@@madskristensen5691 You're right, but 4chan is different to what I want. On 4chan, there is very little regulation on what can be said. What I'm talking about on the other hand, is a place where there is regulation but the right kind. Meaning stopping people from advocating for violence, while at the same time stopping people from dismissing unpopular ideas just for being unpopular. I think when it comes to discussion of ideas, thats the only thing that should be prohibited. 4chan is different in the sense that the owners of that place have allowed the site to be taken over by nazis and white supremacists and let them make that place into a breeding ground for hate and deranged behavior.
@@skatesatgod-fusion2619 Im with you on that brother. It was just to get a clarification on “Controversial” subject and such
I love that JT’s avatar from deprogram literally looks like the real meat-world JT too❤️ greetings from a Japanese-Korean American baby-leftist comrade, big fan of Second Thought, Hakim, Yugopnik, and of course, the deprogram podcast!🇰🇷🇯🇵🇺🇸❤️🇮🇶🇷🇸❤️
Thanks so much!
you are a real comrade!
Hope to visit South Korean one day
Nailed it. Well presented and summary should include "The Caring/Fairness" angle.
For someone who despises people who have balanced opinions that arent far left or far right, Second Thought sure does love the balanced nature of Socialism
"I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals."
― Albert Einstein, Why Socialism?
"The best weapon of a dictatorship is secrecy, but the best weapon of a democracy should be the weapon of openness."
― Niels Bohr
"If machines produce everything we need, the outcome will depend on how things are distributed. Everyone can enjoy a life of luxurious leisure if the machine-produced wealth is shared, or most people can end up miserably poor if the machine-owners successfully lobby against wealth redistribution. So far, the trend seems to be toward the second option, with technology driving ever-increasing inequality."
― Stephen Hawking, 2015 Reddit AMA
yep, as far as i know, Albert was a socialist...and you will never, ever, EVER hear about that.
As socialists, we are opponents of the Jews because we see in the Hebrews the incarnation of capitalism.“ - Joseph Goebbels
"You cannot get rid of me because I am and always will be a socialist. You hate me because you still love me." Benito Mussolini
I could go on forever, Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Jim Jones, Idi Amin Dada, Gaddafi, Assad, Maduro, Kim Jung Ung, Castro, Hitler, and Salvadore Allende all have plenty of socialist quotes you can choose from.
@@matthewmeyer347 okay. its not hard to dig through historical quotes of bad people using good ideas to obfuscate their bad intentions.
@@chrisgenovese8188 100% of bad people promote socialism. Find me 1 other 'good idea' 10% of evil people agree on. You'll find evil people agree on evil ideas such as socialism. Because they know socialism is like slavery a person can never achieve self-actualization, and the innate human need to succeed is completely suppressed. SO evil people can now control the masses and control the revenue streams of organizations. Imagine thinking promoting laziness and failure, and suppressing the desire to succeed and innovate is a good idea.
@@matthewmeyer347 right, because this never happens in capitalist societies lmao. also, i would love to see a source for "100% of bad people promote socialism". your brain must be as smooth and featureless as a cue ball.
I stumbled on this channel with the video "Why Would Anyone Work Under Socialism?" And I'm so glad the algorithm slipped this one in for me. You make excellent points and are encouraging people to research things themselves and have thoughtful, meaningful discussion. It warms my heart. Thank you for these videos.
Capitalism will sell you a rope it will be hanged on, lol
Ask the Cubans that brave shark/crocodile infested waters to escape it.
@@philvdw9627dude Cubas people are very supportive of their government and its not a dictorship and the reason why some do it is because America has been making Cuba wanting to knee and fail so its citizens can turn on their own government but most of Cuba are very aware of what the United States is doing!
@@andrewreynolds912 You are very misinformed, don’t speak for us. A lot of us have suffered bc of the regime. The us isn’t the one beating, torturing and putting anyone in jail for complaining about the government - the dictators are.
people will do the bare minimum anywhere in the world the question is whether society should invest in 18 y/o elon musk or pauly shore. you can build danny devito a 10 mil state-of-the-art facility but that's not going to help the US track team.
In germany we call our system „soziale Marktwirtschaft“ which is basically capitalism but with social parts like unions, employee rights, healthcare and more. The US system seems quite ridiculous in its way how bad it is
I discovered you from the TH-cam algorithm.
Finally, a sexy socialist explaining it in a simple way.
But seriously great that your doing this cause we need people to know the truth. Showing it in a face to face way and in a non threatening way is really good. Keep it up.
Thank you! And yeah, the idea was to come across as friendly and welcoming, and I thought being on camera would help me do that
I'm sorry, are you implying that Eugene Debs wasn't the epitome of sexiness?
@@gabrielchristy7341 I mean we was in his own way. Hell of a man
@@SecondThought i really like your channel for not adopting real socialst aesthetics, i dont really have a problem with them after getting beyond the sea of anti-communist propaganda. But i think its a really important vision to value the socialst experiments of the past and learn from them, but push for a future, not a lost future of communist dreams, but a new future with a new aesthetic. Same dialectical materialst class analysis and critique of capitalism but a new dream like solar punk. This has the great advantage of not beeing negatively charged with the propaganda of past generations, that lay like nightmares upon our current society like marx said. And i think a new aesthetic can avoid a kind of fatalist notion of the failure of the soviet union. A new dream must be dreamed and something like solar punk just might be that dream, that can instill revolutionary optimism in a new generation of socialists.
*Second Thought Deprogram voice:* "aw, shucks"
This video is exactly what I need. I’m a recovering conservative, and I’m slowly moving further and further left but I really don’t know much about it. Beginner stuff like this is really helpful
same here
Congrats to you both. Left is best.
@@marcusarygmail Left or Right all the people you look up to are Capitalist puppets. CNN,Fox,CBS's shares are owned by the same 10 shareholders, meaning they are doing exactly what those people want.
@@KasiToursSA all the people I look up to? You don't know me.
@@marcusarygmail I'm talking about the people who tell you who to like / hate or vote for. Each side has their leaders and TV stations which they follow and sometimes idolize.
In a hypothetical scenario where we live in a socialism society. How could we choose our own carries?, how could we purchase “private property” like a toothbrush?, how would we develop art?, or how would a socialism affect the entertainment world, like music, movies, and literature?, how would the “government” or the “people” be organized?, how would “freedom of speech” work?, can I have my own beliefs such as a religion?
This and many others questions I have over socialism.
I would appreciate it if someone responded to my questions.
(btw, sorry for my bad English, I'm not a native speaker)
Your toothbrush isn't private property, it's personal property. Means of production are private property under capitalism.
@@EnriqueLaberintico I understand that. What I mean is, how could we “obtain” it.
I can’t afford to sponsor u, but I really appreciate this video ! I resonated with so much of what u said!
You are doing an incredible work. This is one way to advance the socialist cause. Because when people know what socialism actually is, they support it. That's why it is important to combat the capitalist propaganda and advance the socialist narrative. The masses will support socialism because socialism supports them.
It really doesn’t. It’s hard to distribute wealth without devaluing the incentive for it.
it doesnt, i watched the video in search of real points for socialism and all a found is wishful thinking, if's, and capitalism is bad + nothing on how it would actually work (spoiler alert : authoritarian regime)
Glad you agree, you have to proved your work without compensation and jail if you refuse.
This is why I always called Capitalism "Corporate-Feudalism" or "Neo-Feudalism". We are still serfs. The only thing that changed were terms, it's all just semantic change.
That's basically what i was thinking about the current situation too!
It's still a cage, they just added some padding to muffle the screams, effectively
I would argue that only applies to late stage capitalism. Early capitalism looks good because there are no foundations yet, it's only after powerful companies start to exist that capitalism becomes corporate feudalism.
Capitalism is modeled off of feudalism in structure. Capitalism is, is taking the economic power from a king and giving it to individual business owners.
@@jossebrodeur6033 An the business owners become the new feudal lords. They then own all the land and means of production. It's the same thing, it's only a matter of semantics. A king or lord is some normal human who owns everything because of laws they made. A bossiness owner, especially the billionaire class, is just some normal human who owns everything because they wrote the rules. Neither were ordained by a deity and neither are a god as much as they believe it. And they do.
When do we get the new Magna Carta for capitalism? Or I'd be fine with the guillotine as well.
This is what we get with no regulations, legalized bribery in the form of lobbying and a fake democracy.
Huh like gaming meta
This was actually explained very well and is more eloquent than I could have conveyed. We absolutely need reform as our current system is unfeasible and unsustainable. There will also come a time were the poor will have no choice but to eat the rich.
Or just maybe get a job
@@ignaciosavi7739 Ah, yes, I will go get another job so I can still be poor and have no free time and spend every minute of life working until I collapse from exhaustion.
@@ColtonGamingTV You proposed eating the rich. I think maybe finding a higher paying job would be a more productive alternative
@@ignaciosavi7739 I did not say we should eat the rich now for which you are implying, only that it will happen if things continue as they are. What is that bs about getting a higher paying job how about I get better compensated first instead. Anyways I am done with this conversation, it is like to me you are trying to have a productive conversation.
@@ColtonGamingTV I guess you don't like productivity
@5:13 you said: "Your salary is not determined by how dedicated you are and how valuable what you do is, but by how disposable you can be." I would argue that the value of what you do and how disposable you are, are inversely proportional quantities. For example gold is more valuable than dirt and not as disposable as it is. Also in capitalism if you are not satisfied with your compensation you may change your job, however, if there are no better options for you, then the market deems what you do to not be valuable and as such, disposable.
@8:16 you asked an important question "What is it?", which I believed to be the entire premise of the video, yet I feel you never answered it. The point I am trying to make is that I completely agree that capitalism has many flaws, however, I also believe that what you are describing as socialism is not well enough defined and therefore it goes into the famous class of ideas of "It isn't even wrong." This is the reason I want to spark debate.
@9:14 you imply that for a company owner to extract the most out of every individual is to worsen the conditions for them as much as possible, however, modern companies' novel policies are moving in the opposite directions as the paradigm nowadays is that a happier worker produces more, which is a win-win.
@10:12 you said "Let people decide for themselves". Which I truly don't understand as that is exactly what capitalism currently does. For example worker owned cooperatives are not forbidden by the current system, there are actual examples of them, however, by the new system a company where there is one owner and a hierarchical system below him would be forbidden, if I understand correctly. So is that not a contradiction? You also said "Give everyone control over what ideas we want to see happen and how". Which to me sounds like a democracy, which we also currently have.
@11:20 you said "when something only affects you, you should be able to do what you please". This statement sounds great, however, I don't immediately see how that is not the case in today's system.
@19:00 you talked about Chile in the 70s under the guide of Allende which I don't know much about so I will definitely read up on that.
What I mention in this comment are a few of the points I didn't understand or don't agree with. I would appreciate someone giving me counter arguments to think about.
I missed this video on Patreon (don't blame me it was a mental health break) so cue my surprise when there's a whole face reveal! I know you've done them in the past but I never actually encountered one before.
In any case, I'm hopeful that such a large percentage of Millennials in the USA is favouring socialism and also not cowering in fear when communism is mentioned.
It's me. I'm socialism.
Also a face reveal, very nice. I can see why Hakim and Yugo are fighting for you now.
I kept expecting him to pan down to him doing the same loop of hitting the game pad too lolz
3:00 can we just appreciate the effort our cameraman took to go back in time to film the astounding background footage? 💯💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Can you NPCs chill with these cringe copy and pasted comments. Quit being a bot.
I think we need to have almost like a mix of socialism and capitalism for there to be a safety net, but for people to be able to strive to do something great
I like to reference the native people of the world whose tribes could only grow and survive through mutual aid. That’s basically socialism but socialism is a European concept. Other tribes would just call it being a human and caring for your whole community.
what you are describing is primitive communism, in hunter/gatherer societies egalitarian ideologies are a logical consequence of the interdependence to other individuals. Even if socialism is a european concept its a universal scientific idea not a eurocentric belief
Mutual aid looks to be the model for _any_ society where you either do not have strong social strata or you have at least much of the means of living confined inside particular communities (e.g. farming villages) without those strong social strata present within them. For a concept as broad as "socialism", there will be instances of it by whatever names across the globe and history. (And we should be all ready to tap every one of them for inspiration!)
@@TechMik3LP indigenous peoples in the americas are still around. Not all their societies have been hunter gatherer. Their forms of economics that you define as primitive communism have performed longer than what you would describe as modern communism. Funny how when talking about how socialism is universal and not Eurocentric, you still stumble upon primitive.
@@mk-oc7mt some white people just have it engrained in them to look at anything that isn't European culture as primitive
@@TechMik3LP just because it existed before European culture got up on its two legs doesn't make it primitive Michael
Even if it was true that socialism failed or whatever capitalism isn't sustainable and I still haven't really heard a good argument against why workers shouldn't have control over the workplace tbh either by conservatives, liberals or even soc dems.
Japan hit the ceiling, their economy haven't grew for 30years and will most likely stay this way because they don't have growing population that will enter the work place. I'm not saying this to criticize Japan, just to point out an example that infinite growth isn't possible nor sustainable.
Their workplace is someone else's private property. Simple as.
I think the main argument is it will lower productivity of the firm. A hierarchy is a natural and efficient way to organize work. Corporations are only worried about productivity so if you can prove that by having workers have more control over the workplace will increase productivity, I don't see why they might have a problem with this. And in fact many corporations have tried implementing 4 day work week, granting more control/autonomy to workers and if it works, and in many cases it did, it was implemented.
@@ristekostadinov2820 its almost like the US was on a similar trend for population decline, hmm.. oh didnt the Supreme Court decide they were going to let the states ban abortion with no exceptions? its almost as if that will force alot of people to be born into poverty and become desperate wage slaves that will be forced to enter the capitalist work force. curious.
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Good video. The ratio of 'bold statements' to supporting evidence or more technical/in-depth explanations is, IMO, a bit off though. There's a lot to unpack in some of what you say, although I am aware it's difficult to do so in 25min. Also, virtually only PROS for socialism and virtually only CONS for capitalism? That's always suspect of strong bias. Still, good production value and informative!
Great video. I know this isn't the subject of this video and is only mentioned briefly, but i have a slight problem with how you explained the transition to capitalism from feudalism.
You explain capitalism's coming into being as essentially due to the lifting of fetters on the burghers/merchants, through revolutions etc. But I don't know if that's entirely correct. I recently read a great book on this called "The origins of capitalism" by ellen meiksins wood, and she focuses more on the changing property relations and the origins of capitalist market imperatives (i.e. through the introduction of competitive leasing in England).
She explains that bourgeois historians presuppose a capitalist, profit-maximising mentality in both peasants and burghers, in order to explain capitalism's development (through the lifting of any barriers etc.). By doing this, they almost make capitalism seem like the natural, proper way of doing things and relating to one another.
I know this is a long comment for something that you mention for like 30 seconds 😂 and that you probably won't read this, but I think that by explaining capitalism's development like how Wood does, it would even further denaturalise it and make viewers more open-minded to socialism.