How Capitalism Destroyed Russia

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  • If you're like me, you know way too many people who think Russia is communist, or that don't realize the USSR has been gone for three decades now. But even for those who do understand that Russia is is capitalist oligarchy, not many know the full story. Come learn about how the West subjected the former soviet countries to brutal free market shock therapy, and the disastrous consequences that followed.
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    • The First Years of Rus...
    • How “Shock Therapy” Ca...
    • Post-Soviet Russia: Fr...
    • How capitalism destroy...
    Shock Therapy
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_t...)
    www.shortform.com/blog/russia...
    www.project-syndicate.org/com...
    The USSR and The Russian Federation
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolu...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Ru...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Y...
    www.nplusonemag.com/issue-24/...
    Naomi Klein’s definition of shock doctrine/shock therapy
    www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...
    Individual statistics, facts, and quotes:
    250% increase in price following privatization
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    56% increase in unemployment
    news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/782...
    14.5% fall/ nearly 20% decline in industrial production/1,354% inflation/real incomes being cut in half
    books.google.com/books?id=G7p...
    Decrease in health and education spending
    www.greenleft.org.au/content/...
    www.nytimes.com/2000/10/12/wo...
    12.8% increase in deaths
    news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/782...
    6 year drop in life expectancy in Russia 1991-1994/1 year drop due to Covid
    link.springer.com/article/10....
    85% under the poverty line/Yeltsin’s 35% “correction”
    • How “Shock Therapy” Ca...
    Jeffrey Sachs’ “spontaneous market activity” quote
    books.google.com/books?id=G7p...
    The mafia’s origins in Yeltsin’s decree
    books.google.com/books?id=VEh...
    47,000 then 90,000 privatized companies
    books.google.com/books?id=G7p...
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    $20 vouchers and 14% of privatizations open to the public
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    Graphs of wealth and inequality
    • How “Shock Therapy” Ca...
    Sachs quote about prioritizing speed during the privatization process
    scholar.harvard.edu/files/shl...
    Sachs quote about not prioritizing speed during the privatization process
    www.acamedia.info/politics/ukr...
    Sachs quote about the urgency of privatization before people caught on
    books.google.com/books?id=G7p...
    The IMF using its funds to push around economic reforms
    books.google.be/books?id=VEh9...
    The centralization of power by Yeltsin
    www.nplusonemag.com/issue-24/...
    Favorable and extra press coverage for Yeltsin
    www.belfercenter.org/publicat...
    Yeltsin election rigging
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    Sachs quote about workers councils
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  • @Pedro-jy2fx
    @Pedro-jy2fx ปีที่แล้ว +3712

    in russia they're called oligarchs 👹 in the us they're named billionaires 💫

    • @khalifa3335
      @khalifa3335 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      six of one, half a dozen of the other.

    • @cavaleermountaineer3839
      @cavaleermountaineer3839 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing could be further from the truth. You do realize this cute little boy is the new face of marxism. Lenin and Bernie didn't work so well so now they've developed a new toy to brainwash the youth.

    • @reallyman6502
      @reallyman6502 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      a big price for making the "oligarch" word not as rude as it was in USSR

    • @iche9373
      @iche9373 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      Oligarch is when you can co-rule a country, billionaire are just guys with a lot of capital.

    • @leechgrl
      @leechgrl ปีที่แล้ว +532

      @@iche9373 do you really think billionares dont co rule the country?

  • @Emelia39
    @Emelia39 ปีที่แล้ว +3839

    My dad studies Russian history and lived in the USSR during the 70s. He came back right after shock capitalism was in full force. He said one of the saddest things he saw was old women who’d lived through famines, WWII etc. who got cheated out of their pensions at the last moment selling bread on the subway at midnight in the middle of winter.

    • @jayz8839
      @jayz8839 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s amazing how this is so reminiscent of the Covid Warriors who now blame the global economic crash that has only just begun, caused by overspending on pharmaceuticals while locking down your own economy, they blame it on everything but their own actions and wants which directly caused it. They are not that dumb either, it’s subconscious rejection of responsibility like a dead beat parent who doesn’t want their child to live.

    • @DrCruel
      @DrCruel ปีที่แล้ว

      A drunken psychotic drug addict has children who he rapes and abuses in the basement of his apartment. After a few decades he gets old and dies of an overdose and starvation due to poverty, and the surviving children escape. The police find them and try to help them, but with only partial success.
      Which means it was the ideology of the police that caused all the trouble.

    • @DrCruel
      @DrCruel ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@busterkeyl.3626 This was Russia in the 30's too. And East Germany in 1945.
      Why not tell me about the besprizorniki?

    • @marius4iasi
      @marius4iasi ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Cheated by who?

    • @CeluiEtSeul
      @CeluiEtSeul ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marius4iasi their own Greedy Commie leaders obviously. Funny how people overlook tens of millions deaths cause by Communism and now want to blame Capitalism when things change because they are too dumb, brainwashed, manupilated and lazy to think and work for themselves.

  • @suchetachatterjee6089
    @suchetachatterjee6089 ปีที่แล้ว +1360

    I was a kid when the USSR fell. I still remember the grief, shock and despair that surged through our family when it happened. I remember my parents calling Gorbachev a traitor and Yeltsin was seen as the incarnation of capitalist evil. I’m from India, for context.

    • @lochnessmunster1189
      @lochnessmunster1189 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Is the title of this video correct?

    • @inbuckswetrust7357
      @inbuckswetrust7357 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      @@lochnessmunster1189 Абсолютно.

    • @srinathradhakrishnan
      @srinathradhakrishnan ปีที่แล้ว

      Typical of a bengali, still in love with communism while your state dies a a painful death due to lack of any entrepreneurship and industries.

    • @letsplaywithmegacyborg3098
      @letsplaywithmegacyborg3098 ปีที่แล้ว

      USSR was literally an epitome of evil. It was a shit country. Gorbachev was one of the best USSR leaders. Capitalism literally saved Russia. There was no way to continue the country as it was before. It was just shit. People were dying and starving. If not Gorbachev USSR would've collapsed sooner. He saw that being communist is impossible so he gave more freedom to people. Communism was shit

    • @letsplaywithmegacyborg3098
      @letsplaywithmegacyborg3098 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@lochnessmunster1189 no, it's bs

  • @kurt1948
    @kurt1948 ปีที่แล้ว +569

    I was born in 1948. I felt a vague sense of alarm when the Soviet Union dissolved. I remember the day in the late 1990s I was considering getting rid of my books about the Soviet Union and Communism. This Second Thought gives me a language to think about events.

    • @anti-dope9608
      @anti-dope9608 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Wow you

    • @mrantipatia1872
      @mrantipatia1872 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Would you be so kind to describe us the Soviet lifestyle through the years? It would be very interesting and usefull to hear that from a wise man

    • @Commielover69
      @Commielover69 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Bless you old man

    • @menz223
      @menz223 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      god bless you

    • @RedFlagRevival
      @RedFlagRevival 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I would love to hear about your story.

  • @kanadop473
    @kanadop473 ปีที่แล้ว +2967

    I'm from Kazakhstan, born in the late 80s, I'm afraid to watch this video because I'll get re-traumatized. The 90s were horrible horrible time, we barely survived, so many people quietly died, some from hunger, others from despair, alcoholism, drug addiction, murdered by bandits and so on. I freeze from pain when I think about that time and what our people were subjected to, including my parents.

    • @romanchannel69
      @romanchannel69 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      the 90s compared to 80s was a time when people finally got an opportunity to fulfill the stomach
      Kazakhstan tried to conduct their free market reforms in a safe and slow, low risky way, so the economic growth was in the bottom of the CIS region for many years

    • @quang2842
      @quang2842 ปีที่แล้ว +233

      @@romanchannel69 i thought the 90s was the worst time in like every former Soviet countries, was it different in Kazakhstan?

    • @MenRot
      @MenRot ปีที่แล้ว +280

      @@quang2842 you're right, we had shock therapy with 5 waves of privatization. It mirrored Russian experience, just without political violence. I don't know what he is talking about. We crawled out of poverty and population decline only because of oil prices increases in 2000's. To be fair it could have been worse. Civil War was actually an option given that majority of population was diaspora. We can thank Nazarbayev at least for that, that he prevented such things from happening. Still piece of shit, though.

    • @B1sher
      @B1sher ปีที่แล้ว +305

      @@romanchannel69 fulfill their stomach with what? with emptiness or bullets? c'mon, it's ridiculous, 90's were the worst time in the whole Soviet territory after the WW2. Deffinitely much worse than the 80's and im from Russia

    • @DokesConspiracyNetwork
      @DokesConspiracyNetwork ปีที่แล้ว +102

      90s in the USA vs Russia. The 90s was my favorite time of my life as a USA citizen. Sounds like it was hell for the Russians.

  • @hehehehehehheehhe
    @hehehehehehheehhe ปีที่แล้ว +5059

    As a Russian, everything you say in this video essay is so on-point, well-researched and non-superficial mainstream info it's kind of scary considering you're not an inhabitant of ex-ussr haha. Kudos man 🫡

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  ปีที่แล้ว +745

      Thank you very much! I try my best

    • @lordjj2549
      @lordjj2549 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      @@SecondThought wheres the figure of 80% of USSR members wanting it to continue? good video BTW

    • @lordjj2549
      @lordjj2549 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@michimatsch5862 What were the reforms or changes they wanted?

    • @Dianasaurthemelonlord7777
      @Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordjj2549 Gorbachev was slowly increasing Government Transparency, Freedom of Speech and Press, and repeeling more Stalinist-Era Laws

    • @tasfa10
      @tasfa10 ปีที่แล้ว +229

      @@lordjj2549 It refers to the 1991 USSR referendum. I'm quoting from wikipedia: "Do you consider necessary the preservation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as a renewed federation of equal sovereign republics in which the rights and freedom of an individual of any ethnicity will be fully guaranteed?" (...) "The referendum's question was approved by nearly 80% of voters in all nine other republics that took part."

  • @cricketsounds3332
    @cricketsounds3332 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    I’m Lithuanian but my family is Russian. When the USSR ended, Lithuania still had it better economically than Russia. But even with this, my grandmother and grandfather, who worked in highly respectable factories as econometricians and engineers, lost their jobs due to the factories closing. They sold underwear on the street to make money. My mom was studying to be an engineer and could not finish her study because the factory she’d be working at closed down and she had nowhere to go.

    • @davidstrelec2000
      @davidstrelec2000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Lithuania's gdp fell by 50% during the 1990s and today real term gdp is only 60% greater than 1989 level.

  • @glebbak19
    @glebbak19 ปีที่แล้ว +752

    This video can help to understand Russian society a lot. Putin’s popularity is not based on him being actually awesome but because people associate early 2000s when he became president with rapid economic growth that took place. The other significant reason for his enormous approval is that he managed to cope with constant terror attacks and to end the war (ironic, isn’t it) in Chechnya.

    • @kubhlaikhan2015
      @kubhlaikhan2015 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only Putin could have hauled in the looting oligarchs, giving them a choice between investing in Russia, exile or the chop. Putin earned his reputation and even westerners acknowledge him as the greatest statesman of our generation.

    • @SteveOnlin
      @SteveOnlin ปีที่แล้ว

      Same thing happened with Algeria during the 2000s but with Bouteflika, we were socialists who switched to a free market which caused poverty and a civil war with 2 terrorist groups, then Bouteflika came in, managed to stop the war and improved the Algerian economy, guy was a walking corpse before people stopped liking him.

    • @kekkoinen
      @kekkoinen ปีที่แล้ว +12

      "him being awesome" +5 roubles

    • @glebbak19
      @glebbak19 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@kekkoinen 🤦‍♂️

    • @SteveOnlin
      @SteveOnlin ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@kekkoinen his hear cold, his moves are bold

  • @RustedCroaker
    @RustedCroaker ปีที่แล้ว +1299

    As a Russian, who managed to lived through all of that in person (born in 1971 in the USSR), have to say:
    1) The facts in the video are well researched and absolutely accurate.
    2) I'm surprised to see such an unbiased, deep and qualitative analysis of anything related to Russian in the English-language segment of the internet. Especially nowadays.

    • @ernstthalmann4306
      @ernstthalmann4306 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We exist bro, I'm an American communist and despise what this nation stands for. The Union was our best hope. Can we rely on China as a vanguard? I doubt it. We'll need to make our own revolution.

    • @em_the_bee
      @em_the_bee ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Not sure if trolling or just stupid. Do you really believe this perspective is unbiased? Do you really think the author did well on research? Like, really? Do you know what the word "unbiased" means?

    • @em_the_bee
      @em_the_bee ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ernstthalmann4306 right, China is an awesome example of communism coming to life xD You American communists aren't very picky, are you? I'd suggest your government change the flag to red and rename the leading parties to "communist democratic" and "communist republican", you'll be happy for the rest of your lives.

    • @ernstthalmann4306
      @ernstthalmann4306 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @Piracy advocate you know China has less prisoners than America? Higher math test scores for students. Takes 2 weeks to build a skyscraper. What's the point of democracy if nothing gets done?

    • @em_the_bee
      @em_the_bee ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@ernstthalmann4306 waaaaait, wait. Isn't communism the ultimate democracy? You American communists are even funnier than I initially thought xD

  • @jamesdavis727
    @jamesdavis727 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    I lived in Moscow in this time period. It did indeed happen very quickly. One thing I never forgot was the puzzlement of the 'True Believers' who really thought we are building Socialism for a better tomoro. Then it was suddenly all about money. They walked around stunned for a couple of years, then just went for the money.
    Overall, it was a fairly horrible period and I try not to think about it.
    I honestly believe I was the only non-Russian on the planet to be standing on Red Square when they hauled down the Soviet flag for the last time in history. The square was barren, dark and cold. Just me and some dude trying to sell souvenir cups to nobody (probably KGB).

    • @Cocoisagordonsetter
      @Cocoisagordonsetter 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Fascinating!!! I was there in '93-94 as an American college student. You very well may have been the only non-Russki. What brought you there?

    • @mvk4343
      @mvk4343 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Who said it will be the last time?

    • @Cocoisagordonsetter
      @Cocoisagordonsetter 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@mvk4343 The next time will not look the same. It's gotten weird again though, but so has everything.

  • @Mellicent_Shadow
    @Mellicent_Shadow ปีที่แล้ว +203

    Hello. I was born in 1990 in the USSR. I was a child, but I saw with my own eyes how hard it was for my parents to survive this terrible decade. People were not ready for capitalism and did not want it that way.

    • @BusinessGamesAI
      @BusinessGamesAI 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I was ten when the change happened. I consider myself lucky to remember the USSR and still gotten the Soviet education. We emigrated in mid-1990s. I had been reviewing my attitude to socialism since 2008 and especially over the past 2 years.

  • @goroch_thegreen
    @goroch_thegreen ปีที่แล้ว +144

    I'm from Russia, I was born in 2000 but I understand why older generation redy to bearing everything if it saves us from returning to 90s my grandmothers told me how it was. Even when war and all the sanctions stated one of my grandmothers said to me: "Don't worry, we survived 90s, we will survive this".

    • @birchparty
      @birchparty ปีที่แล้ว +19

      то же самое! это буквально то же самое, что сказали мои родители!
      я ребенок нулевых

    • @retroas2683
      @retroas2683 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Я родилась в те времена и от голода у меня был всю жизнь очень низкий рост (не было достаточно еды чтобы способствовать росту организма, мы из средне-низжего класса) после 20 лет, когда все наладилось, я за 8 лет набрала 15 сантиметров и достигла среднего роста.
      За 90ые как ребенок я увидела много смертей, трупы на улицах, человека раздавленного машиной сорвавшейся с эвакуационного крана, возле нашего дома наркоманы кололись ночью. Дедушка который раньше помогал родителям и сидел с детьми на площадке пока они бегали за продуктами однажды был найден мертвым в помойке когда новые русские наипали его на квартиру. Дедок великую отечественную пережил, не пережил 90ые. Почти ежедневно были новости о жестоких расправах над людьми, один раз видела как с дома сбросили девушку - потом когда взрослая уже была родители рассказали что это с ближнего востока рабочие изнасиловали, убили и сбросили ее.
      Не профукайте то что у вас сейчас есть. Никогда не доверяйте США и Западу. Наши родители не для этого откапывали страну из того г в которое нас погребли либерахи того времени.
      Запад никогда не меняется. Их целью всегда будет истребление и порабощение. Разделяй и властвуй, это их логика, а наша логика силы в единстве им противоречит.

    • @oddjonsson2815
      @oddjonsson2815 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@retroas2683stop invading your neighbour and we can be friends. The west had no ambition to "destroy" Russia, it was mainly the ambition of Western billionaires in combination with a weak Russian state apparatus. I'm very sorry for what you and most ex-ussr republics went through as it didn't have to be that way. The Baltic states are a good example (even though their economies were heavily subsidised by the Nordics and Germany). The idea of that "the west" wants to destroy Russia is simply false, it's actually a pretty terrifying prospect if you give it a thought. It does however don't want a return to the cold war with another iron curtain through Europe. It's also important to remember that the west is NOT a monolith. Interests fundamentally differs between different countries. Russia rolled the dice, so to speak, when it invaded Ukraine, there's a divide now between Russia and the rest of Europe that will probably take decades to heal, if that. If anything this confirms for the former Warsaw pact and USSR states that joined NATO that they made the correct decision, not to mention that Finland also joined and Sweden seems to be on its way

    • @lukediceman1098
      @lukediceman1098 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@retroas2683 "трупы на улицах" ты серъезно? хватит страшилки рассказывать 😴

    • @retroas2683
      @retroas2683 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lukediceman1098 не рассказываю. Зимой приходилось видеть трупы бомжей. Но тебе, 4урка, этого не знать, ведь тебя даже в планах не было в то время.

  • @romantarasenko4900
    @romantarasenko4900 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    USSR: *dies*
    Pizza Hut: It's free real *Gorbachev* !

    • @wwanca3771
      @wwanca3771 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      tankie?

    • @yonyosef
      @yonyosef ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@wwanca3771 no, it's a "free real estate" meme variant

    • @connectc.7181
      @connectc.7181 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🤮🤮🤮

    • @JoaoSantos-ur1gg
      @JoaoSantos-ur1gg ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ironically that Pizza Hut ad was never aired in Russia.

    • @wwanca3771
      @wwanca3771 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@camaradecarter no😊

  • @polyakoviv
    @polyakoviv ปีที่แล้ว +1080

    What happened not only literally ruined lives of working people in the former USSR (including but not limited to Russia), it also made a huge wound in lives and minds of the generation that is in its prime right now. That wound never healed fully so you get the idea

    • @argonaut5617
      @argonaut5617 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It started to inevitably happen when Kosygin was fired. Kosygin in fact was Prime Minister, Industry Minister and Minister of Economy, started his high-level career even with Stalin during War. Check the facts.

    • @pantsedjuniorhayseed4816
      @pantsedjuniorhayseed4816 ปีที่แล้ว

      the fall of the ussr is the single largest collapse in human standard of living.

    • @vadimk3484
      @vadimk3484 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@argonaut5617 Kosygin was the dude who advocated and actually began replac... Pardon me, "integrating" elements of market economy into the planned economy of the USSR, which in the end was one of the reasons (albeit rather an effect than a cause) of the collapse. Sounds like a "great" role model for modern communists.

    • @rafaeltorquato2973
      @rafaeltorquato2973 ปีที่แล้ว

      I still hope for a Second Act. Social Media may have ruined a lot of brains, but it also exposed the intectual level of the right wing Worldwide.

    • @cr4yv3n
      @cr4yv3n ปีที่แล้ว

      Boo hoo hoo Russia could not STEAL from its neighbors.
      Boo hoo hoo

  • @profilore
    @profilore 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +373

    I was born in Russia in 94. My family used to be fairly well-off before the dissolution of ussr, at least enough to live comfortably and provide for my parents once they got married. My mom got a free apartment provided by the government for working on railroads. My dad had a car, my grandfather had a nice apartment in the very center of the city (not Moscow), a dacha (a summer house with a bit of land), a personal fishing boat, an amazing for the time collection of photo cameras, and a shit ton of other useful stuff, and had a decent savings account. By decent i mean enough that i could buy an apartment right now for what it was worth, and i'd have enough for whatever work it needs, and maybe a used car too. My dad studied in Moscow to become an engineer, and was making decent money too.
    Guess what happened next? A few years before i was born inflation skyrocketed so much that all my grandparent's money poof-ed out of existence and my whole family almost starved. My mom and dad couldn't take me to go visit mom's side of the family until i was almost four years old because there was no car and travel became a nightmare. And then of course the roads were not being maintained for literally years, so we crashed our new car and i lost my mom to a ditch 300km from her hometown.
    My entire childhood i never had any clothes of my own - everything came from kind neighbors and distant family. My grandmother raised me, and she always had food on the table, but i distinctly remember not being allowed to buy anything in stores aside from milk and bread, and very very occasionally a chupa-chups. I hated myself for forcing my dad to work three jobs just to be able to buy and make livable another apartment to take me in again, and grew up to have a constant feeling of intruding on other people, always afraid of taking more then was acceptable in my mind.
    Rn im an adult married woman, but we still live in my mom's apartment and there is no way my husband and i could make enough to buy another property, not even if we double both incomes. We can barely scrape by without going too badly in debt just from groceries and necessities, and that's only because by last grandma gives me half of her veteran pension in exchange of me taking care of her health, working in her home and cooking. Oh, and we don't qualify as poor.
    I'm fully expecting that if i have kids they will have to learn to live off the land and make a fire by rubbing sticks together.
    I'm not saying everyone is this bad off, but my story is not out of the norm here.

    • @retroas2683
      @retroas2683 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      If you live near Peter or Moscow(or other big city) you should consider other towns/cities. I don't have a higher education and I alone cover my flat and all my necessities with pay of 30k + bonuses from work. I even help my parents cover my grandma's treatment bills sometimes. I even save up for my future flat/house (I hope for a house but it seems rather expensive to build, I'll wait until everything normalises or chose somewhere away from Moscow).
      The real estate prices are insane, probably one of the things our government has to look into to go in with their population increase plan. That's probably current major issue that needs to be addressed.

    • @profilore
      @profilore 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@retroas2683 try making 30k in Saratov. You need to be a man and have 2 bachelors degrees and 10 years of experience, and a lot of connections, or work 12 hours 5-6 days a week. I've never been paid more then 20k a month. Rent for a one-bedroom is 10-15. Utilities is 5k in winter. Even if I made 30 i'd never have enough money for anything aside from food living on my own.

    • @profilore
      @profilore 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      @@kennyshepard-ww1gk well my mom is dead, so is most of the family by now, but I'm actually a commie if it helps

    • @profilore
      @profilore 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      @@kennyshepard-ww1gk it will sound cliche, but here's what I genually think:
      a) the USSR didn't fall apart by itself, it was destroyed by decades long deliberate effort on part of both western interference and internal conflicts of interest. It's well documented that the majority of USSR citizens did not want a dissolution. Most people were perfectly fine to keep it.
      b) for a country that started as barely more then totally agrarian miserably poor monarchy with no education, technology or unity, USSR wasn't half bad by the end, or even by the middle. It still wasn't actually communist though. It was more of a state capitalism. There was no real dictatorship of the proletariat, tho it gave a better illusion of one then, say, USA. And it was still very much capitalist, though some things were socialised, like education and housing. There was still plenty of inequality, poverty and other capitalist bullshit - mostly for reasons of corruption, isolation and a horrible lack of democracy.
      Tl;dr: the ideal was good, but the conditions were unsuitable, so there was never real communism in USSR. It was destroyed by deliberate prolonged effort of combined forces within and without. It was pretty bad, but there are many ways in which it was better then market capitalizm. Ask people who actually lived in it.

    • @Olga-de3ru
      @Olga-de3ru 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@kennyshepard-ww1gkОни оказались бедными в результате распада СЭВ и СССР и краха своих политэкономий. Но при "социализме" (на деле госкапитализме с социалистическими элементами и обещанной перспективой) большинство жило хорошо, и раздражали только недостатки, которые, казалось, было нетрудно исправить (поэтому и купились на "перестройку", оказавшуюся мошенничеством).
      Правящий слой переродился, а народ перестройщики обманули. А когда люди осознали масштаб Бедствия - к 1993 г. - в Москве клика Ельцина просто разогнала парламент и Конституционный Суд, и расстреляла протестующих (в т.ч. в по-пиночетовски созданным концлагере Асмарал).
      Нынешняя поддержка Путина есть поддержка не столько капитализма, сколько возвращения элементов советской системы, ну и прежде всего, конечно, по контрасту с катастрофой и ужасом 90-х (ещё 00-х). Но перспективы смутны, я вот думаю, что надо исполнить проект Глушкова ОГАС. Сделали бы это в СССР - и Страна бы не распалась, и не пришлось бы пройти по Кавдинским ущельям бедствий 90-х - 00-х.

  • @miri9600
    @miri9600 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    This applied not only for Russia, many eastern Europe countries had this transition (some violent one), expecting better future, instead leaving future oligarchs split their own property into hands of few.

    • @todorkerev1707
      @todorkerev1707 ปีที่แล้ว

      None of the countries in the Warsaw pact had a planned economy before the coups of the Soviet Union, and pretty much every country has a higher standard of living than russia nowadays. Russia robbed those countries of 45 years of development

    • @oliverpapai6011
      @oliverpapai6011 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My parents and uncles lived through it, they were born in the early 70's and were my age when communism fell. In Hungary, it went peaceful and with great public support, and she said that being 18 at the time, she felt that things finally gonna go well during her prime years in this life.
      Then came the early 90's recession, which was nowhere as bad as in other ex-commie countries, and Hungary actually managed to fare the sparked up waters pretty well. Then came the era of governments switching every term, opposition and ruling party working together to pump every penny from the country, until one man became strong and popular enough to wreck this system, and keep all the money for himself, not giving anything to the then-opposition side of the organised crime syndicate called the hungarian government, significantly weakening and basically eliminating the only thing which could counter him. The 2010 election marked the beginning of his career of unrestrained power abuse and corruption which lasts until this very day, because this guy is Viktor Orbán, the current prime minister of the country. He is nothing more than one of the perestroika opportunists who happened to be at the right place at the right time, and gained significant wealth and power during the troubled years, and still profits off the connections he made during and after the commie years. Basically the hungarian Putin who still thinks we are living in 1992 and rules the country as such. When he confronted the latest prime minister and outed him from office, was the last time hungarians felt any hope towards the tomorrow. I think by 2018, literally everyone in this country had realised he is corrupt and evil, even his supporters, but the net of loyal oligarchs he built is so strong, and his blatant corruption is so everyday, that people have accepted it as "normal", and it became normal because everyone thinks so.
      -Note how he had the power to completely stop the organised government crime they had in the last 20 years. Hungary had a blank sheet to write on, but the new sheet became even dirtier than the previous one, due to him wanting it that way. if he would've felt any weak ray of patriotism or conscience, even the slightest bit, things could be so good, because Hungary really isn't (wasn't) a weak country, nor economically, nor mentally. A fertile soil for something beautiful to grow, but no.....
      Oh, and the best part: power doesnt just grow on the trees. You can't becaome powerful just by being smart and around well-positioned people, even during the wild-west like early 90's. You had to already be in position to be able to build up your career, just like the stable base of a giant mansion. And the very definiton of power before the 90's was: the communist party. It is kind.of a conspiracy ytheory, but everyone knows Viktor had his part with the communist party in the 80's, thats when he felt the direction of the wind change, then turned his sail on his previous superiors, riding the wave of the regime change and the death of the "ever watching big brother", who would've killed off any people with such ambitions very early in his ranks. So Hungary, and im literally sure every other ex-commie nation, is still ruled by ex-commies who switched Red and Gold to Navy Blue just at the right moment. But the past is always there to haunt you, the case is similar with him: His (supposedly ex-KGB) commie past echoes back to him from his former KGB Big Boss who still has the documents in his vault proving his guilt: Vladimir Putin. Notice how Viktor is Putin's dedicated NATO and EU cocksucker, even though that man shouln't be possible to have any hold on him, with him being part of the EU and NATO. He shouldn'T be afraid of Putin, but he is, very much, because he has something which could destroy him in an instant, even 30 years after Hungary said forever goodbye to the Soviet Union.
      My mom abandoned all hope of things ever changing in her lifetime (for the better) 13 years ago, and man, i don'T feel even half as bright about the future as she did my age.

    • @chebysh8047
      @chebysh8047 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The difference is that in post-Soviet countries politicians blamed Russia on the situation, and in Russia they blamed the USA and their “advisors”.

    • @Adam1K750SvK
      @Adam1K750SvK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same as Robert Fico in Slovakia, sad :(@@oliverpapai6011

  • @redprincess4495
    @redprincess4495 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    My mother had two higher educations but in 90s she had to knit sweaters so my dad (an engineer) could sell them at marketplace. My father was paid apple juice and no money at the factory where he worked so he had to take different part time jobs to provide for the family. My eldest brother and eldest cousin had to work with him instead of playing like kids should do. We ate soy sausages because meat was too expansive. Mom made for us candies out of burnt sugar. My parents couldn't afford to buy Snickers or Mars for each of as and we could have only one bar for a family. We survived due to my grandma and grandpa. Grandpa used to steel some sunflowers in the local field to make some oil for us.

    • @Vladik614
      @Vladik614 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It wasn’t problem of the 90s it was a problem of stupid team economy. They build the factories and then artificially supported the demand for its products. So after the collapse of Soviet Union they became useless as well as the knowledge and work of the engineers and other staff worked there.

    • @redprincess4495
      @redprincess4495 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@Vladik614 I don't think i can give you a lecture about soviet economy in youtube comments. I'll just say that you're oversimplifying the problem. Если говоришь по-русски - смотри лекции Сафронова и не неси чушь.

    • @Vladik614
      @Vladik614 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@redprincess4495 я достаточно знаю про экономику и про устройство советского союза, чтобы сделать вывод почему были проблемы в 90-е. Командная экономика не работает, она идёт в разрез естественным потребностям людей и история это лишний раз доказывает. И это только один аспект, почему Советский Союз был не жизнеспособным. Был еще негативный отбор, когда у власти были не те кто умнее, а тот кто правильны с точки зрения идеологии, тотальная уравниловка, когда было плохо быть индивидуальным и предприимчивый и многое другое. Да я немного упрощаю, как раз потому, что в формате комментария сложно передать все что я знаю по этой теме. Просто тут очень много людей думают, что девяностые придумали Ельцин и Чубайс, а на самом деле это был долгий путь развала, к которому этот Титаник шел долгие годы. И мне кажется, что тот человек, которого вы мне посоветовали, говорит что-то другое, чем парень на этом видео. Все те же байки, что это все злой капитализм нам все испортил, а не 10-ки лет не правильных решений.

    • @Vladik614
      @Vladik614 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redprincess4495 посмотрел я вашего Сафронова, что скать, очередной коммунист экспериментатор рассуждает почему не получилось и что нужно сделать, чтобы получилось. И когда он затеет очередной эксперимент на радость публике, которая слушает все эти сказки платить будут их дети, уже в какие-нибудь 2090-е. Хотя куда мне до вас, сверхразумов, которые из аргументов имеют только «не несите чушь» и апеллирование к авторитету.

    • @redprincess4495
      @redprincess4495 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Vladik614 Почитай тогда книжку People Republic of Walmart. Это про неэффективное планирование, которое не учитывает интересы людей.

  • @irinaenglish1111
    @irinaenglish1111 ปีที่แล้ว +1203

    As a Russian it’s hard to watch this 😢although I was born in 1996, but I remember my childhood being poor and my mum and the whole generation suffered physically and mentally. Imagine your country just ended one day

    • @MankindDiary
      @MankindDiary ปีที่แล้ว +120

      To us, Poles, the collapse of the Soviet Union was a moment of joy. Probably not only to us, but to the entire Eastern Europe that Russia kept as their satelites.
      And now, thanks to the ongoing war that Russia started, this state will fell once more.

    • @konstar6471
      @konstar6471 ปีที่แล้ว +305

      @@MankindDiary Soviet Union liberated you from the nazi occupation (nazi wanted to destroy all poles like jews, gypsies and russians, but for your country Stalin = Hitler, and that's why you destroy monuments to the soviet soldiers). Soviet Union helped you to reconstruct Warsaw. On a soviet spaceship first citizen of Poland came to the space.
      After that USSR has fallen. Western capitalists destroyed Soviet industries, robbed russian resources, and that's why past 30 years were an age of unstoppable growth of consuming in EU and USA, when in Russia tens of millions of people lived in poverty.
      And when Russian economy started to grow in 00s, and RF has going to become an independent center of decision making, USA started to see in Russia a competitor. After that USA started de-stabilising post-Soviet states. Revolution in Georgia (after that started war in Abkhazia in 2008); 'Maidan' and, after that, civil war in Ukraine, started by ukrainian nationalists - successors of nazis; NATO expansion and nuclear weapons on a russian border - USA are guilty in war. Russia is right, and that's why Russia will win like 80 years ago. Russia will fall only in your dreams, my polish comrade

    • @MankindDiary
      @MankindDiary ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@konstar6471 Soviets attacked Poland alongside the Nazis, killed thousands upon thousands of Polish intelligentsia ans military leaders. They've rebuilt Warsaw, although they could've stopped Germans from destroying it in the first place.
      To Poles, Soviets are just occupants and enemies of the Polish nation, we have few things to be grateful, and tons to resent and hate them.

    • @Boznaniac
      @Boznaniac ปีที่แล้ว +61

      I'm from the former Yugoslavia and I remember when our country fell apart in a time frame of a few days. It was bad.

    • @Boznaniac
      @Boznaniac ปีที่แล้ว +159

      @@MankindDiary not all of Eastern Europeans were happy about that. I'm from the former Yugoslavia and we weren't happy about thr fall of the Soviet Union.

  • @truthisfree7297
    @truthisfree7297 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Sadly, the US had an unfortunate role in shaping Russia into what it is today. George H Bush and the neoliberal policies that he and Reagan had been fleecing onto America for nearly a decade, were forced on Russia as well. Gorbachev wanted to transition Russia into a social democracy like Sweden or Norway, but the Bush administration pushed for full on unrestrained capitalism - the shock therapy as you put it.

    • @Fillipok
      @Fillipok 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rather, the United States was upset that it was not possible to completely destroy Russia. Ideally, Russia should have completely lost its political independence, turned into an exclusively raw material power and consumed American goods. I think the American authorities regret that they did not completely destroy Russia.
      And the lives of Russians are not the concern of the American Empire.

    • @RosenetTV
      @RosenetTV 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You've got to be kidding me. Clinton was President during most of this time. He effed it up.

  • @allygotchannel3563
    @allygotchannel3563 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Gorbachev is one of the most hated politicians in Russian history, if not the most. To the extend they love him in the West, he hated in Russia with passion.

  • @evska2012
    @evska2012 ปีที่แล้ว +1033

    I was born in 1978 in Yugoslavia, so not Russia, but the same goes for ex Yu countries. It was hell transitioning from socialism to capitalism and it's not much better now. Slaves it's what we are.

    • @megadan66
      @megadan66 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Ask your grandparents which was better?

    • @b.t.peterson6429
      @b.t.peterson6429 ปีที่แล้ว +228

      @@megadan66 In my experience and from polling I've seen, they would likely saw that the socialist era was better.

    • @Shini1984
      @Shini1984 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You think thansition from feudalism was better?

    • @evska2012
      @evska2012 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      @@b.t.peterson6429 yes. Ok, not everybody would vote for the socialist times (there is always someone who gets hurt by any type of goverment) but majority would say for sure that life in Yugoslavia during socialism was much better.

    • @evska2012
      @evska2012 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      @@Shini1984 no, I do not think it was easier. I am just wondering whether this "transition" will end one day or not likely. I'm not saying it's not our fault that we cannot create a better (richer) society, I guess it is our fault, but I think at least for some countries capitalism is not the way, but world's policeman won't let us do anything else. They need markets and cheap labour so here we are.

  • @hmmmm1040
    @hmmmm1040 ปีที่แล้ว +692

    I was born in 1995 in Russia
    My family had no money and no food
    They managed somehow to get baby food for me, but my mother had to eat it with me sometimes, since there was no food for her
    My grandparents were paid by flour (many people of that time were paid by specific type of products). They lost their teeth due to lack of vitamins. In their 40s.
    Doesn't sound like a therapy.

    • @Drunkle.
      @Drunkle. ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I'm Прибалтика born 2 years before you and it's crazy how much worse parts of russia got hit compared to us. Your story sounds far more like my mothers childhood in 60s than mine. My parents where school teachers so no not really people who got rich from privatization.

    • @hmmmm1040
      @hmmmm1040 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Drunkle. yes, my grandparents teachers as well. Idk honestly why they were getting paid by flour (better than being paid by textbooks though)))

    • @romanchannel69
      @romanchannel69 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Why do you blame the consequences but not the causes then? The bolshevik dictatorship had led the country to a disaster. New oilfieds that had been discovered in 60s just delayed the inevitable crisis. It supposed to happen much earlier

    • @sergueileonardoafonin7950
      @sergueileonardoafonin7950 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      @@romanchannel69 because for the whole world to celebrate the fall of the Soviet Union my country had to suffer and people to starve.
      At the same time the West put lots of money into Poland for example. Now Ukraine.
      I lived through the 90ties, we hoped for better connection with the West and better opportunities.
      When nothing of it came to be, people reverted back to nationalism, que todays Russia.

    • @GabrielGabeRodriguez
      @GabrielGabeRodriguez ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The problem was not the neoliberalism of the country but the power grab by the oligarchs. Capitalism works because it doesn't require government intervention but it also needs a government that doesn't have a stake in the table.

  • @mustafanaser9789
    @mustafanaser9789 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Russians in the comment section act like poverty is or was just exclusive to the USSR or communism. In fact after the fall of the Soviet Union every former soviet state struggles to maintain the whole infrastructure system which was very well maintained during Soviet times in almost every location of the soviet union. Nowadays in post-soviet russia modernization happens almost just in the biggest cities of russia. Rural communities have not enough money for reparations or New buildings. These are just some points you can mention about the drawbacks after the collapse of the soviet union

  • @LogicGated
    @LogicGated ปีที่แล้ว +25

    That damn Gorbachev Pizza Hut commercial always gets me lol

    • @Psyolopher
      @Psyolopher ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's so awful! xD

    • @inbuckswetrust7357
      @inbuckswetrust7357 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine what kind of clown you have to be to dream in a pizza commercial being the secretary general of one of the most powerful countries in the world. Gorby was only a puppet of those who ruined the USSR no more. Like today's many presidents of countries ... They are clowns and nothing more.

  • @artemkhrulkov5498
    @artemkhrulkov5498 ปีที่แล้ว +1096

    I was born in 1991 not so far (about 200km) from Yekaterinburg, Russia.
    To be clear, I don't remember that time as a complete disaster because I was a child. For me, everything at that time was pretty good. But after I turned 13, I had a conversation with my parents about their life in the 90s. And it was tough.
    My father was fired from institute of mechanical engineering and had troubles to get a new job. Finally, he found a vacancy in metallurgical plant in nearby city and it was amazing because otherwise he had to join the crime gangs. Our city was small and there weren't so much work places and that why some people was making money by racket, stealing or even murdering. Actually, my father had a conlict with one of gang member at that time. He got some injures during the fight but they were not critical, so everything was going fine in the end.
    My mother was teacher (in fact, she is still the teacher) and in period from 94 to 95 she received food supply instead money for her salary. And that food was kinda poor to be honest.
    So yeah, this Shock Therapy wasn't a therapy at all. It's like another wound on the soviet countries body. Many people in country felt this shock.

    • @user-lt9im7nq4e
      @user-lt9im7nq4e ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Вы родились в Серове?

    • @artemkhrulkov5498
      @artemkhrulkov5498 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@user-lt9im7nq4e нет , под Нижним Тагилом)

    • @zyba3431
      @zyba3431 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Hello, I also live near Yekaterinburg, in the city of Serov. In our city, there were also huge layoffs of workers at the factory and severe unemployment

    • @ernstthalmann4306
      @ernstthalmann4306 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hence Putin's justified anger

    • @artemkhrulkov5498
      @artemkhrulkov5498 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@ernstthalmann4306 don't know. Seems like he had his own purposes to start this bloody war. Maybe status and power is his choice. But in the end this decision still isn't a treatment, it's like making the wound bigger not smaller.
      I personally don't support what's happening in Ukraine right now. A lot of my friends are living there and I don't want them to suffer.

  • @temp_unknown
    @temp_unknown ปีที่แล้ว +252

    As an autistic person, shock therapy does not make me think of good things lol.

  • @user-lr9er2ut6s
    @user-lr9er2ut6s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Ого! От иностранца я такого анализа не ожидал.

  • @Magnus730
    @Magnus730 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I became a socialist fairly early as an American and became very interested in the USSR. Which I think is sort of natural given my father was in the military and I was born the year the USSR fell. But it’s a love hate relationship with me as a historian that focused on Soviet and American history and the relations between them. Every time I read or hear about the destruction of the USSR I’m increasingly more infuriated with the United States. It’s also a mix of grief which is odd to me because I don’t actually have any ties to the Soviet Union.

    • @sasho_b.
      @sasho_b. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Communists arent sad for what was, but what could have come to be. There are dozens of swatikas that litter my block. Would they be there had there been a system of education to give those who drew them some brains? I would like to believe so.

  • @Foria777
    @Foria777 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    Being a person who is living in a place where each village used to have some local plant, dairy farm, fleet consisting of various agricultural vehicles or many other live forming unit types I can sincerely say that passing by shambles of formerly higher civilization makes me grief.

    • @keiralum1797
      @keiralum1797 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Держись, брат. Надо объединяться.

    • @kindlingking
      @kindlingking ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Комплекс сельхоз строений размером с небольшой район, больше половины заброшено и напоминает скорее кучу строительного мусора, а то, что ещё используется, не обновлялось годов с 80-х. Богатство Дона/юга, нечего сказать.

    • @Shurikova666
      @Shurikova666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Аналогично, братан.

    • @RustedCroaker
      @RustedCroaker ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's seem the swamp in Washington is hellbent to not allow it happen again.
      I'm with you my brother. Our childhood was rich in all meanings of the word.
      (born in the USSR in 1971)

    • @Foria777
      @Foria777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RustedCroaker I'll tell you more. Swamp is everywhere. And that play happening in part of your collapsed motherland is nothing but a play. Play where ordinary soldiers die for swamp creators.

  • @Bearded.Nobody
    @Bearded.Nobody ปีที่แล้ว +1738

    Currently watching as my country's (UK) government collapses in on itself while they desperately try to preserve (and increase) the wealth of the ultra rich. Thank you for all that you do, love your channel! 🧡

    • @sahar1213
      @sahar1213 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      damn, stay safe

    • @lovemusicbandchorus
      @lovemusicbandchorus ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Sad part is, idk if you're talking about russia or the US

    • @altosack
      @altosack ปีที่แล้ว +49

      It’s not clear where you’re from; there are many contenders.

    • @sahar1213
      @sahar1213 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@altosack i guess you could include England in that list (i live there)

    • @Bearded.Nobody
      @Bearded.Nobody ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@altosack It's the current UK debacle I'm talking about but it seems that capitalist governments in general are having a pretty rough time rn 🙃

  • @DeTofuKing
    @DeTofuKing 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I never knew any of this and never felt as much anger over capitalism as I do now.

    • @gr4tisfaction
      @gr4tisfaction 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      my condolences

    • @keycypress13238
      @keycypress13238 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i only feel despair

    • @j.ceasar
      @j.ceasar หลายเดือนก่อน

      Capitalism saved all of the eastern European soviet satellite states from russia, so that's a very good thing.

    • @yukiakito3083
      @yukiakito3083 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@j.ceasarsave from what? A stable life?

  • @donnadong5837
    @donnadong5837 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    The USSR was born from the most noble human idea, crumbled from the most despicable human desire

    • @j.ceasar
      @j.ceasar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh come on! Peak USSR saw the most suffering a "developed" nation has ever seen. There was nothing noble or human about the USSR during Stalin.

    • @j.ceasar
      @j.ceasar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just look at what the USSR did to people in the baltic states. They have preserved the soviet torture chambers that were used to try to keep the population controlled , so you can still go there and see for yourself.

    • @klnsbl
      @klnsbl 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@j.ceasaroh don't give me that, the usa today has a higher prison population than the ussr at the peak of stalinism. look at the 13th amendment, where it explicitly states that slavery is abolished, except as punishment for a crime. suddenly it makes sense why so many people get imprisoned.

    • @yusouph2002
      @yusouph2002 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@j.ceasarthe most rapid economic development was in the Stalin era. And that despite the World War, which took out the lives of 27 million people.

    • @yusouph2002
      @yusouph2002 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@j.ceasaryeah, look what the USSR did to the Baltic states. Not that it literally built all of their infrastructure which they use to this day. The baltics were literally dotation regions meaning they weren't self-sufficient and relied on the dotations from the center which USSR fulfilled. Also USSR never forbidden their language or national culture (that was an official policy in any SSR, not only in baltics). Yeah, those horrible times...

  • @eduardocolombres6717
    @eduardocolombres6717 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    As a latinamerican citizen , Still Is hard for me magine you ,a US citizen, trying to speak about socialism to your society. I honor your efforts on such challenging taxi. Congratulations!

  • @anastasia7091
    @anastasia7091 ปีที่แล้ว +915

    Thank you for this video. As a person from Kazakhstan, it made me tear up 🥲
    I know that my grandfather, who was WWII veteran and a committed communist, simply couldn't stand the collapse of the Union and soon passed away. Everything that they built with such sacrifices just fell apart before their eyes.

    • @keiralum1797
      @keiralum1797 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Stay strong, brother, we have to continue their fight.

    • @anastasia7091
      @anastasia7091 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@keiralum1797 thank you ✊🏻

    • @cratergaje
      @cratergaje ปีที่แล้ว

      Fuck communism.

    • @bigben9056
      @bigben9056 ปีที่แล้ว

      you realise that that holy Union was build on blood and suffer of milions,that was way worse then all that shit

    • @cratergaje
      @cratergaje ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Omar Khurshid it was over way before you were even born.

  • @squid7025
    @squid7025 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    As an Australian we were late to everything, our mass privatisation happened in the late 90s early 2000s when john howard was in power, lost so many public assets its crazy

    • @j.ceasar
      @j.ceasar หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good. State owned things are horrible anyways.

  • @user-xv1uu2dt7o
    @user-xv1uu2dt7o ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Greetings from capitalist Russia! It's very nice to watch such videos, and the fact that there are people all over the world who understand the situation!

  • @isixqueenxofxmadness
    @isixqueenxofxmadness ปีที่แล้ว +713

    I'm chilean and I was born after the Pinochet era, but all of this resonates a lot with what happened in Chile. The shock therapy is exactly what happened here too, the USA conspired to make a growing communist government fail, with armed forces. All chilean people know someone who was "disappeared" by the government ater Pinochet took over.
    It angers me how, before Pinochet, education was free everywhere, from preschool to doctorates. Many older people here got their degrees for free, while people my age who managed to get into higher education are covered in crippling debt. And these same old people tell us that they got what they have by studying and working hard! That is just one example of how our country was messed up by the USA because they were scared of communism.
    The worst part is, most people here say we were blessed with Pinochets coup, because otherwise we would be living like North Korea or China or worse. Andeven with our recent constitutional proposed update, people voted to keep the constitution written during dictatorship.
    Capitalism has fucked this country over so much. Our productive sector is owned by foreign companies and the 0.1%. And people blame immigrants for not having jobs.
    I'm so angry, and I feel there's nothing I can do.

    • @bogdiworksV2
      @bogdiworksV2 ปีที่แล้ว

      this all happened so that international corporations could suck the wealth from everywhere and leave all of us impoverished.

    • @Ajolago1
      @Ajolago1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here in Brazil happened the same thing: the left were growing fast, the country was getting more and more industrial, the salaries were raising, but USA and the rich financed a military coup d'etat to maintain Brazil the big plow of the central captalism countries. The scars never healed. Just when Lula and Dilma's goverment started to challenge again the rich and impose national sovereignty, another coup were done against Dilma and the liberalism with Bolsonaro's facism tooks place. Now we are trying to bring Lula back, but the wounds are still bleeding.

    • @memeyartist5591
      @memeyartist5591 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      i feel the same way. its like a neverending horror story of existential dread, and it feels like theres nothing i can do to break through this nightmare because we will always be oppressed.

    • @bigmedge
      @bigmedge ปีที่แล้ว +31

      like most socialists, you live in a world of make believe . During socialist rule , Chile was dirt poor , almost completely impoverished , & had sky-high inflation . But within a decade of Pinochet's coming to power , they were by far the richest country in south america , with a massive middle class

    • @isixqueenxofxmadness
      @isixqueenxofxmadness ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigmedge Guess who was boicotting Chile so that our economy went spiraling down.

  • @luisvera8283
    @luisvera8283 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    Good video! I was a foreign student in the late 80s and finished my studies in Moscow in 1993. Those were shocking times. I remember hearing few Russians in Moscow admire Fujimori shock therapy in Peru, now he is in jail for crimes and murder. Later, I was able to visit and lived in other countries like Switzerland, Canada and USA for studies and work. I keep saying to myself that unfourtunately money is more power than solidarity among people.

    • @TsugMt
      @TsugMt ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I keep hearing peolle say that we are greedy by nature...But if the game forces you to be greedy then it's no surprise people focus more on themsleves rather than helping others. Because it means that under our current system we are hurting each other Because that's the only way to move forward in this system....
      I don't want that, in Mexico is the same, you cannot climb and grow ecnomically unless you are corrupt and corruption here in Mexico has killed way to many people....
      I really think we need to change the way we do things like...Now, start talking to others about new stuff we can try, let's build something new instead of being miserable and stuck in this hole

    • @spanishb1
      @spanishb1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TsugMt mexicos problem is the culture not the economic system.

    • @TsugMt
      @TsugMt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spanishb1 It's thinking that we are gringos when we are not....And mind you, at least we have a culture unlike white gringos.....
      Our culture is about family...Is that bad?
      Our culture is about being open to other people's preferentes, be it as sexuality or just as liking something as simple as anime....
      Our culture is about food, music and tradutions, is about making fun at EVERYTHING....Is that bad?
      We're not perfect, we still need to grow a lot but I truly think as mexican that one of our main problems is trying to think lile gringos, that more money and material is the goal in life....When that's bs....Financial stabiltiy is important but there's a difference between putting yoir entire identity in money and using money as means to have a chill life....
      So yeah...Your arrogance is inpressove

    • @TsugMt
      @TsugMt ปีที่แล้ว

      @hchdh The arrogance of thinking you kniw more about your culture than me is just....Such a grungo way of thinking....You're not the police of the world, and if we as mexicans choose a more socialist approach to our economy pkease leave us alone, we don't want your "freedom", we want something better for our communities and country and that is clearly stop thinking like gringos....
      Greetings

    • @spanishb1
      @spanishb1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TsugMt lmao aww man you’re just a kid. I won’t be mean or rude then….
      But Mexican culture is DEFINITELY NOT open to “sexuality” whether it be the lgbt stuff or like free and open sexuality, lol 😂.
      Btw I’m not a “white gringo”, don’t be so emotional in your response immediately throwing insults.
      Mexican culture is family centered with a light hearted approach to life which I very much like. But there’s definitely bad aspects of the culture that are currently keeping it in a criminally controlled stagnant state.

  • @UdarRusskihPudgei
    @UdarRusskihPudgei ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The most prominent person behind shock therapy is Jeffrey Sachs' very own 'chicago boy' Yegor Gaidar. He was the one behind the process that was called 'the liberalization of prices' in late USSR. The scheme was following.
    During the late 1980s, when Perestroika was announced, soviet citizen were allowed to open their private companies, including private shops and stores. But the production of goods was still in 100% government hands, or better say, in hands of directors of government plants. It was common for a friend or a relative of such directors to open a private shop, and the plant started selling their goods not to a government distribution network, but to such a private shop. However, the prices were still controlled by the government, so state shops still got some leftover goods.
    Then, in 1990, the government announced, that the 'liberalization of prices' is coming, meaning that all government restrictions on price formation would be lifted in near future. This 'near future' lasted for almost a year, during which all plants literally stopped selling their goods, waiting to sell them at a new price. This even led to food factories throwing away their product to maintain the demand. This was the time, when major part of photos with empty shelves were made. You often see them today as a depiction of flawed planned economy unable to produce.
    Then, following the 'liberalization', the price for food and other vital goods skyrocketed. This effectively swept most of soviet citizens' savings in one year, and the inflation during 1990s killed the rest. Then came 'loans-for-shares auctions', which were used to split the state production facilities among few private owners, who made their money during Perestroika and early 1990s. You can find them in Russian Forbes list now - they're like 95% of it.

    • @urrich5747
      @urrich5747 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hold on, comrade! Let me just add that all citizens’ deposits in the state bank were stolen by scammers who, among other things, used these funds to seize the means of production.

  • @emiliaerle6030
    @emiliaerle6030 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A "shock therapy" - a neat name for accumulation by dispossession, which is a neat name for stealing

  • @MJ_Convey
    @MJ_Convey ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I was about to say “somebody read The Shock Doctrine before making this video” then dude quoted Naomi Klein. (Claps of approval)

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  ปีที่แล้ว +29

      It’s a great book!

    • @MJ_Convey
      @MJ_Convey ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@SecondThought yes it is. I’m about midway through. Reading about Sachs’ start destroying the Bolivian economy.

    • @MJ_Convey
      @MJ_Convey ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PutXi_Whipped I definitely have my issues with Klein. I don’t really keep up with what her and Sachs have been up to recently.

    • @LancesArmorStriking
      @LancesArmorStriking ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MJ_Convey
      Sachs (maybe not, since he has lied for appearances before) seems to have turned a new leaf-- spoken out about Russia's 30-year long warnings not to expand American military access to its border

  • @Captain_FAIL
    @Captain_FAIL ปีที่แล้ว +241

    Moscow resident here. The more i live the more i hear people from all walks of life calling for violent removal of oligarchs,in light of peaceful protest doing jack shit, the incredibly passive population had finally grasped the idea that they have no power and are cattle to the upper class. One can only hope that whatever will happen it will lead to oligarchs,their loyal puppets, their friends and families,being hanged. They practically turned themselves into nobility once more, nobility that was killed and disenfranchised for all their wrongdoings,and it was completely earned. Now,they seek the same fate.

    • @khalidhayat6461
      @khalidhayat6461 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro same in pakistan but worse in your country at lest putin has some control over them but in our country they control everything. Imagine only a handful of 20 to 25 families controlling the fate of 230 million people

    • @Captain_FAIL
      @Captain_FAIL ปีที่แล้ว

      @@khalidhayat6461 A decent pack of families straight up pulls the strings of globalised world structure itself, so its not that hard to imagine. Dont know much about Pakistan,wont lie,but all i can hope for is for you people to have easier access to weaponry than we ever will, better to try and die gun in hand than to live like this

    • @LeftistUprising
      @LeftistUprising ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello Capital-Fail!!! I hope for the same things as you, and I hope that it inspires the world.

    • @MrBassmann15
      @MrBassmann15 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I hope you take your country back. Glory to the Freedom of Russia Legion.

    • @dirk-jantoot1029
      @dirk-jantoot1029 ปีที่แล้ว

      And if you finally manage a violent removal of oligarchs another socialist system is installed and you get another communist dictatorship again. Then it falls apart again 60 years later and the cycle repeats.

  • @darrensurff8554
    @darrensurff8554 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    To be honest how capitalism destroyed a whole planet is more accurate 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

    • @gr4tisfaction
      @gr4tisfaction 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tell me please, in which direction did people flee after the fall of the Berlin Wall?

    • @hj8750
      @hj8750 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gr4tisfactionскажите пожалуйста почему в мире так много бедных капиталистических стран и как получилось, что эти страны раньше были колониями? И изучите время, когда мир переходил в эпоху капитализма, многое станет понятно

    • @gr4tisfaction
      @gr4tisfaction 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hj8750 Вау, в мире существуют бедные страны, какое откровение. До прихода злых капиталистов там то конечно был рай на земле, а они пришли, негодяи такие, и всё испортили.

    • @hj8750
      @hj8750 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gr4tisfaction с приходом капитализма всё конечно изменилось🤡

    • @gr4tisfaction
      @gr4tisfaction 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hj8750 Так и я говорю, что не в капитализме дело. Молодец, сам себе и ответил 🤡

  • @Rdwd19
    @Rdwd19 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Poland avoided the decent into oligarchy like in Russia, Ukraine, or Belarus, only because the government was very slowly privatizing the economy. This slower pace allowed to avoid quick rise of oligarchs and overnight milionairies. Shock therapy is horrible phenomena that rewards only those who were already in power and were quick enough to grab industries, while everyone is robbed.

  • @heavysmoke1124
    @heavysmoke1124 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Интересно читать все комментарии под роликом. Ни кому не пожелаю пережить 1990-е годы

    • @user-mv8bu5jy2n
      @user-mv8bu5jy2n ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Да, но увы, троллей с гадостями в комментах тут тоже хватает.

    • @MultiHotFlash
      @MultiHotFlash ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@user-mv8bu5jy2n большинство из них просто не понимающие люди. Для этого и создан канал - для просвещения.

    • @RustedCroaker
      @RustedCroaker ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Да. жопа была. хоть и детство.

    • @Andrew-di7zz
      @Andrew-di7zz ปีที่แล้ว +10

      сейчас еще хуже

    • @idopshik
      @idopshik ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Да Лёшу навального вытащить с тюряги, и привет 90-е.
      Может и Кириенко сможет справиться, кто знает.

  • @btc54723
    @btc54723 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    Its extremely important that you put your citations and research into the description of the video. Im very glad youve been doing this. It helps convince people like me and gives you very solid credibility.

    • @hbsupreme1499
      @hbsupreme1499 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's there, but true since people can't read up ti

    • @boehrb
      @boehrb ปีที่แล้ว

      This is critical. Nice.

    • @tackytaco8133
      @tackytaco8133 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      269 likes, unwilling to disrupt that. Lol.

    • @BADCOMMENTSCOMEFROME
      @BADCOMMENTSCOMEFROME ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah cause Wikipedia is such a good source. Could as well have cited ”the library”

    • @s0urce.ow0
      @s0urce.ow0 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Every single one of those wikipedia citations comes with supporting citations from other sources specifically for people like you Id imagine.

  • @Bored4280
    @Bored4280 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As Anatoly Chubais (main liberal ideologist of privatisation in Russia) once said in interview - "for Jeffrey Sachs privatisation is a classical economic process of reallocation of resources in more effective way, but for us in first place it was a final nail in a coffin for communism, we were ready to give property for free, even to pay extra, so there could be a class of owners"

  • @yeanivaseisay4457
    @yeanivaseisay4457 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the shampoo bottle analogy was pretty good imo. i dont know much about economics but your videos overall do a good job at explaining.

  • @rudaleru
    @rudaleru ปีที่แล้ว +103

    "Everything the Soviets ever told us about Communism was a lie. Unfortunately, everything they told us about capitalism was true."
    *- Russian joke*

    • @Vsenorm
      @Vsenorm ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Lol, there is no such a joke. The joke is "everything the Soviets ever LIED about the capitalism was TRUE"

    • @lorsheckmolseh3345
      @lorsheckmolseh3345 ปีที่แล้ว

      A plagiarist, rapist, racist and police snitch come into a bar.
      The bartender asks: "How is the new book going, Mr. Orwell?"

    • @Anuclano
      @Anuclano ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Vsenorm No, I heard the joke only in the variant by @rozod3135 (about socialism and capitalism)

  • @copper4842
    @copper4842 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    When we were taught Russian history in school (I'm Canadian btw) they start in the late 1800s and carry on to the dissolution of the USSR. There is nothing covered after that. I forgive the textbook for not having more, it was years out of date and printed in the early 90s. I'm pretty sure the curriculum hadn't been updated since either, which is disappointing. Nothing we were taught about Russia covers these years and it's very much a blind spot in my understanding of the world.

  • @robertkraljii5048
    @robertkraljii5048 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What an excellent summary of major events that bear directly on where things are at today.

  • @katenpp
    @katenpp ปีที่แล้ว +574

    Let me say an a Russian, this is incredible! Great summary, analysis and historical information. I will be saving it and sharing it with my friends who don`t know or understand the modern Russian history that well.
    You are doing a really great job!

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  ปีที่แล้ว +89

      Thank you so much!

    • @user-ye1yx6sn1m
      @user-ye1yx6sn1m ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@SecondThought can I ask you to watch a recently released animated film from a group of enthusiasts called The world we lived in( class struggle ror everyone)? This is their first attempt at making a video entirely in English. The rest of the films are still in Russian and they are very popular in the Russian-speaking segment of YT.

    • @vadimk3484
      @vadimk3484 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@user-ye1yx6sn1m I second your request. That film is targeting an international audience (it's even dubbed in English on a very good level), and it's generally pretty darn good, so it would be great if JT and other English-speaking comrades watched and shared it.

    • @argonaut5617
      @argonaut5617 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Катя, вы, видимо, совсем молоды. Ещё раз скажу: вас программируют так же, как программировали советских людей, затем новых россиян, затем россиян постарше. Калька одна: старый руководитель в России - негодяй и заведомо действовал антинародно. Если вы не знаете, и советы сто лет назад пришли с такой же пропагандой. Затем меняли друг друга, убивая предшественника. Если вы действительно хотите разбираться в нашей истории и почему так много таких странных событий произошло за последние 40 лет - изучите, кто таков был Косыгин, как устроена плановая хозрасчетная экономика, чем известен МакКарти, кто такой Чазов и почему при нем генсеки и министры умирали пачками. Очень просто послушать о том, что один человек был ужасным негодяем, и все проблемы из-за него. Только вам не кажется странным получать такую информацию из Соединенных Штатов, ведущих с нами холодную, экономическую войну, а теперь уже и прокси-войны? Подумайте ещё раз, Катя.

    • @argonaut5617
      @argonaut5617 ปีที่แล้ว

      Это война, которой уже более 100 лет. Было бы удивительно, если бы за 100 лет соперник не начал вести активную пропаганду.

  • @juzojuzo1806
    @juzojuzo1806 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    JT really is showing his hand and power level more and more lately, figured your audience is ready for it after you covered the basics? :D

    • @RealNeutronStar
      @RealNeutronStar ปีที่แล้ว

      From a libertarian point of view I don't agree, but Capitalism has problems, but not many, and State Capitalism even more! 🔥

    • @komisar1568
      @komisar1568 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@RealNeutronStar thats why we're communists and not state capitalists!

    • @hattielankford4775
      @hattielankford4775 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@komisar1568 It's usually better to ignore trolls spamming the same comment. Even if they do have any valid views, they aren't actually trying to have a discussion.

    • @komisar1568
      @komisar1568 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@hattielankford4775 true, didn't notice at first, thanks.

    • @jamilifunk6199
      @jamilifunk6199 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@RealNeutronStar Spoken like a bot.

  • @abelenthoven8192
    @abelenthoven8192 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for this well researched video! As a then 14-yo westerner (Europe) I know some of these facts but it is definitely great to know more and see the facts in context. I think you are absolutely right saying this transition was far from democratic. Maybe if changes in policy had been more thoroughly thought through the huge economic decline had not been necessary and the result might actually be a more moderate form of capitalism.

  • @sergeipravosud1848
    @sergeipravosud1848 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thank you for this accurate analysis! It seems very unexpected especially during these times.

  • @noheroespublishing1907
    @noheroespublishing1907 ปีที่แล้ว +727

    Teacher -"What did we learn today children?"
    Children In Unison - "Never let Pizza The Hutt take over your country."

    • @Jinx-iw6zb
      @Jinx-iw6zb ปีที่แล้ว +66

      one simply cannot out pizza the hut

    • @Fallout3131
      @Fallout3131 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Jinx-iw6zb facts 😔✊🏻

    • @samtorruellas2879
      @samtorruellas2879 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Fallout3131 so true king

    • @pauljimerson8218
      @pauljimerson8218 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He did eat himself to death ☠️ thpugh

    • @manjelos
      @manjelos ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And put pineapples on your pizza 😂 🤣

  • @Y_U_K_A
    @Y_U_K_A ปีที่แล้ว +434

    i was born in USSR in 1974 and your video is the story of my life. hard life. thank you for helping people see the real face of capitalism.

    • @asbest2092
      @asbest2092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the crisis of 80-90 was started by the planned economy and stopped by capitalism. Just learn the history and don't prate nonsense.

    • @Y_U_K_A
      @Y_U_K_A ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@asbest2092 ahha)) i was on your side before i learned the history.

    • @asbest2092
      @asbest2092 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Porky Propaganda pfp=your opinion is invalid.
      And I don't have an opinion, only facts.

    • @asbest2092
      @asbest2092 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Y_U_K_A My side is the side of history.
      What books about the topic did you read?

    • @Y_U_K_A
      @Y_U_K_A ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@asbest2092 are you kidding me? I see with my own eyes 3 factories in my city collapsed after perestroika. i see people work on outdated equipment and receive pennies for this not the huge salaries that they were paid in the USSR. i see many factories in Moscow have turned into business centers, clubs, exhibition halls, etc. they were built under the planned ecpnomy and fell apart under capitalism. how can a country prosper if production has been destroyed and only resourses exports remain? How can a country prosper where education and medicine are destroyed? Go around Russia and look at the situation. everything prospered during USSR and now these are deserted and dilapidated cities and deserted villages.
      start reading about Khrushchev to begin with. That's a lot of books, I won't list them. Maybe then you will understand how and why planned economy can become inefficient and what destroed my country.

  • @thefire5219
    @thefire5219 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have taken your statistics that you got and used them in my research essay. Thank you for gathering sources I could take and use.

  • @killerbyte7252
    @killerbyte7252 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    it worked out pretty well in Estonia, poland, and other ex soviet states that are more wealthy now than Russia

  • @ilyatsukanov8707
    @ilyatsukanov8707 ปีที่แล้ว +559

    Incredible video; can't believe this kind of alternative perspective has reached so many eyeballs in English language TH-cam. Thank you for your work. Literally millions of people died prematurely in the 90s and 2000s across the former Soviet space. And then some wonder why most people hate Gorbachev and Yeltsin as much as Hitler.

    • @MarinKa214
      @MarinKa214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When the current regime falls, some who believe in television may have a heart attack.

    • @markvolkov7744
      @markvolkov7744 ปีที่แล้ว

      only commies hate gorbachev and yeltsin as much as hitler

    • @mweskamppp
      @mweskamppp ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, much less died than with Stalin at least. And they died because of the old russian problem - corruption. Putin got big because he managed to get his fingers on some decent donations from the west, when he was in StPetersburg. Stealing it from the starving babushka. With that he started his mafia network that is still in power, after he ousted Jelzin and his mafia network.

    • @ilyatsukanov8707
      @ilyatsukanov8707 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@CousinBowling Ok thank you Dennis Prager.

    • @SB-ok3xc
      @SB-ok3xc ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Gorbachev was kidnapped and then forced to resign to avoid a civil war in Russia, he tried to save the USSR territorial integrity and its economy trough a smooth transition to social democracy during a period of reforms. He was a great man with excellent ideas and he's not to be blamed for the fall of the USSR.

  • @vicaraven916
    @vicaraven916 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    My heart skips a beat every time I get called a comrade

    • @jordanjohnson9866
      @jordanjohnson9866 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah. Not My heart skips a beat every time I get called a comrade. Not “My heart skips a beat every time I get called a comrade.” /

    • @j.ceasar
      @j.ceasar หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stay in russia. We will never allow you guys to influence the rest of Europe.

  • @gr4tisfaction
    @gr4tisfaction 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a Russian myself, I find it very amusing to hear that we actually have capitalism here. But it is very frustrating that in a country where capitalism brought millions out of poverty, while the party elite on the other side of the ocean mocked the Soviet people, the ideas voiced by this channel find popularity.

  • @jasondrummond9451
    @jasondrummond9451 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    There is a large section on Russia in Naomi Klein's book 'The Shock Doctrine'. Tells the sad story of Russia and shows that it is part of a pattern that has been repeated across the globe.

    • @melikechoc0
      @melikechoc0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If anyone wants another book like it, Washington Bullets by Vijay Prashad is another good read.

  • @antonstepbystep
    @antonstepbystep ปีที่แล้ว +44

    tbh I admired by my parents whom grown me in 90-s, many people died from starvation, organized crimes and drugs.I remember how we planted potatoes every year, then we were eating potato almost literally everyday until next year. Thanx my Mom and Dad, and other parents which were able to grown their children in those hard times.

  • @RobHel
    @RobHel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! My sister just got me Shock Doctrine as a birthday present and I'm looking forward to finally read it..

    • @lochnessmunster1189
      @lochnessmunster1189 ปีที่แล้ว

      The title of the video is complete nonsense. The country, very clearly, wasn't "destroyed".

  • @nabihaahmed1738
    @nabihaahmed1738 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I can’t even begin imagine how shocking and painful it must’ve been for them My heart breaks for them 😟

    • @j.ceasar
      @j.ceasar หลายเดือนก่อน

      But you guys still want to do the exact same thing with capitalist countries. Your heart would never break if western and eastern europe had to suffer through another half century under russian communist oppression.

  • @Fire157_
    @Fire157_ ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Man... I've been looking at the history of Russia for a while, and i must say, Russia after 1991 is a tragedy... Just that, a tragedy

    • @liberty1827
      @liberty1827 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      There was never a period of time in Russia when it wasn't a tragedy...

    • @Future183
      @Future183 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The times befor werent really better

    • @user-mv8bu5jy2n
      @user-mv8bu5jy2n ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@liberty1827 I do not want to disappoint you, but people under socialism lived much better than in Russia now and better than in the nineties.

    • @liberty1827
      @liberty1827 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@user-mv8bu5jy2n Жил я на Дальнем Востоке при социализме. Не лучше.

    • @user-mv8bu5jy2n
      @user-mv8bu5jy2n ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@liberty1827 А я там жил в нулевые. И многие говорили, что при СССР было куда лучше чем тогда. Про сейчас, вообще молчу.

  • @BTin416
    @BTin416 ปีที่แล้ว +819

    I was about 10 years old when the Soviet flag was lowered during the Christmas season in 1991, and I remember that video clip you posted of the flag being lowered as it happened, live (or at least, freshly broadcast soon as it happened if not live). This, along with the first Gulf War coverage, are some of my first lasting memories of political issues, ones that I actually remember without having to see a history text. I became a teenager in the early 90's and was a very early online-Internet adopter, and some of my first chats were with people who lived in the eastern bloc soon after its fall. When I was chatting in 1994-1995 as a teen, I quickly came to understand the story from people who actually lived in these systems were vastly different from the western media storyline, including the Tom Brokaw/Peter Jennings/Dan Rather reports of the flag coming down and the world being a better place because of it. I think it was a unique time in history, because when I got online access and my own personal computer in 1994, only several months (24-30 months is a raw time frame for such a transition) had passed since the systems had changed and I had open unfiltered access to IRC chats and newsgroups of people who frankly and openly discussed the real differences fresh as it happened. Most of my experiences were not talking with former Soviet citizens, but rather East Germans and some others I got to know from Hungary and even Romania, as well as Yugoslavia. There are so many people who have experiences that do not match with the western storylines and "education" we received while I was growing up in North America.
    One thing I quickly learned is that all the eastern bloc people who immigrated to the United States and other western countries tended to give horrific accounts of the oppressive systems, and these are the people we westerners grew up listening to through our media. But these immigrants are people who left those systems specifically because they hated them, they shouldn't be relied on for an overall account. These were the less than 1% of populations in those countries that worked hard to escape, so they could market/sell their "horror" stories to doting western ears and media outlets eager to report for views and ad revenue. These are not the stories we should use to get a full historic context if we're looking for facts. Many of these people are ego-centric money seekers who want to get fame and fortune by marketing their "horror" stories, and western media were all to quick to give them a platform. In contrast: the real, genuine people I met online living in the eastern bloc, who didn't want to leave, gave accounts of how horrible the transition was and how they were better off before the fall of the wall.
    What I really came to understand is that the failure of the eastern bloc wasn't economic. They actually lived quite well, there weren't shortages of everyday products at the levels we westerners were led to believe (by the 1980's even most Soviet citizens could own a car, automobile production had ramped up so significantly in the 1970's that the years-long wait lists were over with; a used car was relatively easy to get with no wait by the late 1970's), what really was the downfall of the systems were their social controls and lack of mobility. Pensioners could travel, but adults below that age couldn't.
    I also came to understand the horrific photos of food shortages, stores with empty shelves, and etc. were real photography, western media weren't lying when they aired the pictures. But they didn't give context. Those empty food stores were mostly a post-communist phenomenon. The flies hovering around putrid meat droppings in broken fridge machines in stores from the 1990's was the result of shock therapy and conversion to capitalism. EVERY SINGLE PERSON I chat with in the 90's who was in a communist country that had access to the new Internet phenomenon reported the same thing: stores were actually stocked in the 80's, not with as many goods, but stocked to the point that people had what they needed. What we were seeing was what capitalism did after the fall. Western media didn't report that, they gave the context to believe that people were starving for 70 years (not true) and failed to explain they were going through what shock therapy devastation did in the 90's. That was the big "western lie" we were fed. And the 90's were a period of extreme arrogance, the western view was absurdly high and mighty. Those were interesting days to live in, and mature into adulthood in. I'll never forget it.
    It is my belief that if eastern bloc leaders would have been more into mobility: kept the border open to travel, reduced unnecessary social controls (which did fail), these systems might still be alive today. For example, China has had open mobility for most of the last 50 years, after a thawing in the relationship in the 70's. China still exists as a fairly socialist country. From the people that lived in the east and stayed and wanted to make it work, all they wanted was to travel across that wall to West Berlin for a few hours then go home. Or travel to Paris or somewhere for a bit and go home. They didn't want unregulated, skyrocketing rent and absurd prices on necessary items.
    Bananas were scarce in the DDR/GDR, for example, but that's because western governments and corporations dominated banana growing regions of the world. If the border were open, the eastern bloc people would have been more angry at western governments with blockades and sanctions and hoarding goods, rather than their own governments that couldn't change the western behavior. That's the sentiment I gather from those who actually lived those systems.
    Most all of the people in 1989 that showed up to the Berlin Wall did so because they wanted mobility and travel, not because they were seeking to destroy their system. They wanted to be reunited with family and friends, not pay 100x more for housing. The wall DID need to come down, but not for the reasons people often think. But the west soon took over and didn't leave people with the choice.
    I've learned to talk more and more about these issues, because now that I've turned 40, I realize that people won't know these things unless we talk about them. And when I die, so will the stories I got from that period. The more we talk, the more we inform, the better off we'll be.

    • @GalacticNovaOverlord
      @GalacticNovaOverlord ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do those computer chat exist somewhere?

    • @BTin416
      @BTin416 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      @@GalacticNovaOverlord Only in my memory. I had no idea of the historic context at the time, I was just a curious teen, interested in politics and culture at an early age. If only I had known to keep those chats from the day. Most of my interactions were with university students who had new access online (it was new for both westerners and people who lived in eastern bloc countries at that time), back then news groups and IRC was the big thing, the forms of social media we have today like the controlled environments of Facebook, Twitter, etc. are not the same thing.

    • @florin-titusniculescu5871
      @florin-titusniculescu5871 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ... all those moments , lost , like tears in rain
      yes sir , we will lose them , unless somebody invests a lot of money into gathering firsthand accounts into a huge Book Of Eastern Europe Transition Into Regression .
      from the former eastern bloc , my account is : those years were utter shit . from 1980 on , our elites , communist just in name , started to get their agenda from elsewhere . much of the funds they got from international trade , they funneled them into secret funds they got to use after 1990 . thus they started their own capitalism by stealing huge amounts , and then they took over the East , just by ceasing to do their job as state administrators , letting the country ruin and fall prey to anybody who paid them . much like a safari , where the rangers take a toll from the poachers and let them hunt at will . traitors within , that is . people of eastern europe don't fancy socialism anymore simply because they know that the socialist second-rank elite themselves ruined their countries willingly for a decade and then let the people fall prey to all sorts of modern slave masters . let's admit , the EU actually brought back a slim shade of socialist control , if only to avoid revolution , but before year 2000 it was all hunger games in the east . that's why easterners hate Russia : because they hate imperialism . and they like the EU just because it's the closest to socialism thing that's available . and we don't trust our elites at all just because they're literally the ones who owned that safari not so long ago .

    • @mariusro1987
      @mariusro1987 ปีที่แล้ว

      China ? Really ? China that obligated people to make children ? People who died during Mao ? The killing of uygurs ? The prostests at the Polithenic University ?

    • @iPlayOnSpica
      @iPlayOnSpica ปีที่แล้ว +100

      I rarely read comments this long to completion. Thank you for sharing these thoughts and accounts.

  • @MIMALECKIPL
    @MIMALECKIPL 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In Poland it wasn't any better. People hanged themselves when banks demanded immediately all money back against contracts.

  • @Utomneian
    @Utomneian ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i'm surprised you skirted over crime stats, did you know that homicides in Russia went from 14 per capita in 1990, to a peak of 32 per capita by 1994? it did dip as low as 22, but by 2002 it went back up to 30. i know that the economic system isn't the sole factor in homicide rates, but i think a poor economy can be a considerable contributing factor. other than that, this was a good video, i will definitely share it around.

  • @Asrahn
    @Asrahn ปีที่แล้ว +429

    One of the more interesting things Parenti noted was a phenomena he called "cultural penetration", where western media, popular culture etc was allowed to paint an idealized picture that was entirely missing any of the actual downsides of Capitalism, to those living in Communist countries. Particularly pertinent was a radio interview he recalled, where some Polish factory workers were being interviewed, and when asked whether they were fine with the factory firing some excess workers (Communist countries often over-employed as to reduce work hours etc for individual workers in production) they nodded along and agreed that it would be better if things got more productive, efficient etc. When asked whether they'd still be fine with this matter if those workers who were being fired were themselves, they responded:
    "That's alright, the state will find new jobs for us."
    There's no job guarantee or similar safety nets built into Capitalism. It's worth noting how many of those who were actual proponents of a transition to a Capitalist system were utterly bereft of an understanding of how things actually worked under it. The rude awakening for those poor individuals must have been even more devastating, all things considered.

    • @PapaphobiaPictures
      @PapaphobiaPictures ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I think this is massively understated and part of the reason China has been relatively more successful. Soft propaganda projecting this idealistic life of the US and West more broadly and the fun of consumerism without showing the drawbacks, the poverty, etc is incredibly tantalising to a population that may be comfortable but yearning for more. By China inviting in some levels of consumerism they effectively cut off the upper middle class and upper class youth from looking to the US if they want opulence. Instead China can have those elements of consumerism and continue to sledge the increasing poverty in the US

    • @LeftistUprising
      @LeftistUprising ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I'm astonished why there weren't people's revolts AGAINST capitalism in the former USSR.
      Also, i've seen nations divide over religion (ex. India in 1947), language (Pakistan in 1971), and other reasons. But I've never heard of a nation that split up because they all wanted their own Pizza Hut!

    • @morro190
      @morro190 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And yet the living standard in the most successful Soviet states never reached a comparable level to even the poorest 1st world. Thats nice that people were given the jobs by the state, but those jobs payed very little compared to their capitalist counterparts.

    • @zanesmith7727
      @zanesmith7727 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@morro190 the cost of living was also significantly lower during those times in those countries. The same can be said for China today

    • @morro190
      @morro190 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@zanesmith7727 And yet the closest the Rusisans came to America was in the 1970. While the HDI of the soviet union rose after the 40's, the people in the Soviet union never had the mobility of the capitalist countries. West berlin always performed better than East berlin and you can just ask the Germans who lived under Soviet rule.

  • @throwfascistsintopits3062
    @throwfascistsintopits3062 ปีที่แล้ว +969

    Спасибо вам, товарищи, за этот ролик! Рад видеть, что не все англоязычные люди настолько наивны в своих взглядах на перестройку!

    • @StaticCollapse
      @StaticCollapse ปีที่แล้ว +148

      We here at Second Thought love your username

    • @togolesepresidentoffical
      @togolesepresidentoffical ปีที่แล้ว +10

      we love your username (from a lib-right)

    • @leftward_hoe
      @leftward_hoe ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Слава Коммунизму🟥

    • @RealNeutronStar
      @RealNeutronStar ปีที่แล้ว +3

      From a libertarian point of view I don't agree, but Capitalism has problems, but not many, and State Capitalism even more! 🔥

    • @endlord_1.185
      @endlord_1.185 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Translation from Google Translate:
      "Thank you, comrades for this video! I am glad to see that not all English-speaking people are so naive in their views on perestroika!"

  • @mopedroller
    @mopedroller ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very good documentary. 1985, born in Belarus, the crisis didn‘t hit us that hard.

    • @Fillipok
      @Fillipok 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      До прихода Лукашенко у вас тоже были очень серьезные проблемы. До него ведь тоже был взрывной рост преступности, как и у нас в России.

  • @modyafg
    @modyafg ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Now do a video about Shock therapy in Czechia, Poland, Baltic States, Slovakia, Croatia, Slovenia etc.

    • @chrisgaming9567
      @chrisgaming9567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting that you didn't list Ukraine, Moldova, the Caucasus, Central Asia, Belarus, etc

    • @Skovgaard1975
      @Skovgaard1975 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chrisgaming9567
      Because it would be balanced to cover a place where it worked, don't you think?

    • @holesmak
      @holesmak 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Skovgaard1975but it also would be balanced to cover a place where it didn't work BUT capitalism and democracy succeeded. Ukraine went through all the horror russia did but it didn't went down to dictatorship and attacking on neighbor countries to restore USSR

  • @AH-xs3hg
    @AH-xs3hg ปีที่แล้ว +171

    In high school one of my favorite things was reading Russian literature. I learned a lot about famous Russians and I thought they were so smart for often being engineers and scientists. I dreamed of visiting one day to understand what Russians thought of the things I'd been taught as an American, but as I grew older I kind of lost interest and never tried to understand things like that because it was always so hard to find. After watching this video, my heart really breaks for what Russians have gone through.
    This video is really well done. Everything you're saying is really clear and makes a lot of sense, and it seems to jive with what I've noticed talking to the few Russians I've met. A lot of them seem to have been a lot more okay with the USSR than I would have expected. It's interesting seeing all these commenters saying they're from Russia who confirm your narrative. Thank you for this!

    • @pchel6272
      @pchel6272 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for your words and understanding. you in the West believe that Yeltsin and Gorbachev are heroes, and Putin is a villain, but the Russians have a different opinion. It was real hell. Russia could collapse just like the USSR. what the Russians have lived for since the appearance of our country was crumbling before our eyes.

    • @pchel6272
      @pchel6272 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinLeadHammer I still doubt. considering he's on the defensive

    • @user-cx9nc4pj8w
      @user-cx9nc4pj8w ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TinLeadHammer It could have, and it might have. But what second thought leaves out in this video is the coup attempt by military communist hardliners. This event is what doomed the USSR to shock therapy.

    • @Autiscat
      @Autiscat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TinLeadHammerfood shortages? nope! actually, the literal CIA said before that the average soviet citizen ate as much as the average american citizen in declassified documents, not only that, they say that the soviet diet may have also been MORE NUTRITIOUS. and they're like, THE anticommunist terrorist organization so if even *they* say food shortages weren't a big deal in the USSR, pretty sure there weren't any. this is putting aside all the other well-documented stuff about the USSR and their economy. how could a supposedly "rusty, rotting" system with constant food shortages compete with the USA in the space race and be an opposing superpower?

    • @Ilyamogus
      @Ilyamogus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      измена политического строя союзу была не нужна многое имущество было общим такое как заводы, так же из за разделения стран начались проблемы с логистикой и то что заводы теперь принадлежат определённым людям занимавшим высокие должности и в остальных местах тоже самое. (это называли приватизацией, кстати поэтому был уничтожен Зил в виде всего что было и конструкторские бюро и заводы и просто рабочие места с оборудованием которые были) а гластность и прочие демократические штуки по типу бизнесов были бы разрешены и без развала страны это было можно сделать без развала и коллапса. И ещё всю сторию ещё с царских времён люди обычные не хотели сильных перемен , что тогда что сейчас.

  • @Midekai
    @Midekai ปีที่แล้ว +170

    I'm so glad you have been covering Russia. The western world never gets a wholely accurate and truthful depiction of Russian history.

    • @DrCruel
      @DrCruel ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not getting one now. This is like listening to National Socialists blame WW II on the Jews.

    • @DajaSlovakia421
      @DajaSlovakia421 ปีที่แล้ว

      @MDKAI - not even the Russians themselves know that. Then they would not be able to admire their murderer of 30 million people, Stalin. Russia has always had a dictator. Why?

    • @DrCruel
      @DrCruel ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@DajaSlovakia421 Because they had the misfortune of transitioning from monarchy to socialist aristocracy, much like China.

    • @asbest2092
      @asbest2092 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      >"comunism killed the ussr"
      >truthful description
      Are you mad?

    • @Midekai
      @Midekai ปีที่แล้ว

      @@asbest2092 super mad bro. I need help. dose me with that capitalism.

  • @tackytaco8133
    @tackytaco8133 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can someone tell me where the footage in 14:55 is from ??

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Really another in a long line of examples of capitalism and democracy fundamentally being at odds with one another.

  • @Domzdream
    @Domzdream ปีที่แล้ว +779

    So glad to see your channel growing and growing! Honestly, it’s one of the few channels on TH-cam who tells it like it is, unapologetically.

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  ปีที่แล้ว +129

      Thanks, I do my best!

    • @leftykeys6944
      @leftykeys6944 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@SecondThought -- You are amazing.

    • @RadikalBanal
      @RadikalBanal ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@SecondThought i once again offer u to translate those videos to the german audience!

    • @Domzdream
      @Domzdream ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RadikalBanal Why? A perfect opportunity for you to learn English - the most common and widely used language throughout the entire world.

    • @RadikalBanal
      @RadikalBanal ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Domzdream i speak english. i just want to provide a german translation to those who don't.

  • @chrisgaming9567
    @chrisgaming9567 ปีที่แล้ว +470

    A video on advancements in scientific fields (such as zoology) in socialist countries would be cool

    • @accountrandomnumber182
      @accountrandomnumber182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, biology ratio

    • @Big1nz
      @Big1nz ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Cuba's lung cancer vaccine would be a interesting mention.

    • @RealNeutronStar
      @RealNeutronStar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From a libertarian point of view I don't agree, but Capitalism has problems, but not many, and State Capitalism even more! 🔥

    • @yosawin3018
      @yosawin3018 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Zoology? Like those cute somewhat domestic foxes from Novosibirsk? Haha, that said, many achievements of socialist nations are quite impressive, even though some might be limited by ideology like the stupidity that was Lysenkoism.

    • @hunterfinan7585
      @hunterfinan7585 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@RealNeutronStar here is the leftist response to the state capitalist claim, if you are at all interested!

  • @expertizer
    @expertizer หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow, a westerner discribing the 90s so unbiased and so on point. I have to applaud, as someone who lived through those Times, thanks for the video.

    • @j.ceasar
      @j.ceasar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "unbiased" funny🤣

    • @expertizer
      @expertizer 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@j.ceasar yes, unbiased. most of people talking of those times in russia either have no clue, were not there or profit from the narrative. how we, the majority, the "simple" workers survived through those times is a miracle - we did it not "because" of capitalism but "in spite" of it.

  • @howtosober
    @howtosober ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As usual, this is phenomenal work. Thank you so much!

  • @russellhare3110
    @russellhare3110 ปีที่แล้ว +301

    Naomi Klein also wrote a great book about shock therapy, called the shock doctrine. It will give you a lot of understanding of how neoliberal philosophy was implemented but it's also quite disturbing because it was all so fucked up

    • @izzmond3676
      @izzmond3676 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Amazing book, might be the ultimate takedown of Milton Friedman and neoliberal philosophy

    • @argonaut5617
      @argonaut5617 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Russell, I want to read it.

    • @Dogen70
      @Dogen70 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will soon read

    • @marcbuisson2463
      @marcbuisson2463 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The biggest problem over what happened in Russia is similar in other european countries.
      The problem were not only the content of the reforms. But even worse were the political figures from the old soviet/communist establishment who implemented them. And did it the way they used to do things in the USSR. Using these changes to take a share of the cake.
      There are countries where the privatisations went well. Poland, the baltics, Czechia, Hungary. The common factor between them is not only that they did a milder version of the shock therapy. But that the entire old establishment was ousted and replaced by genuine political opponents. Not always immensely memorable people. But citizens with no political backgrounds. With professional but especially human qualities. What lacked in Russia, in ex-Yugoslavia, or even Romania or Bulgaria was a political clean up *before* the shock therapy. People like Merckel, Vaclav Havel or Lennart Meri were never given the possibility to take the leading roles in Russia or Serbia. Or perhaps even to be more precise, the most important were not these *people* but the political groupes of human rights, ecologists, journalists and researchers they represented and were put to power. These were not regime's apparatchiks.

    • @nuvisionprinting
      @nuvisionprinting ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also a great documentary. Shouldn't be too difficult to find on youtube. A bit over 1 1/2 hours.

  • @Fair-minded.
    @Fair-minded. ปีที่แล้ว +263

    I was born in The Soviet Union. Thank you for your analysis. For English speaker it is very accurate non-biased. Subscribed. Best regards.

    • @Rai2M
      @Rai2M ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "not biased" you say?

    • @Hys-01
      @Hys-01 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@Rai2M thats exactly what he said. Probably one of the most unbiased youtubers in this neoliberal hellscape that is youtube

    • @owenlindkvist5355
      @owenlindkvist5355 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Hys-01 That's some bullshit.

    • @owenlindkvist5355
      @owenlindkvist5355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tomassakalauskas2856 He's basically a simp for communism.

    • @ritemolawbks8012
      @ritemolawbks8012 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@owenlindkvist5355 That didn't sound anything like attacking, or being biased against the West. You might need to spend more time learning how to properly use the words "communism" and "simp."

  • @torylva
    @torylva ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When you said "USA is the vanguard of democracy" it reminded me of Machinae Supremacy's song "Seventeen"
    Which is just about that subject.
    "We turn over the stone as we poke
    And harvest the world in democracy's name
    And even though our own is a joke
    We need yours to be all the same"
    And ends with
    "And when you're free to consume and to use
    We will service you with everything we produce
    Take it or leave it but know this one truth
    We market this freedom for you
    Live free or die"

  • @SovietRussianBear
    @SovietRussianBear 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why is there Putin in the thumbnail? It should be Yeltsin, the shock therapy was implemented under him not Putin.

  • @deifieddata4462
    @deifieddata4462 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    I wish there was a way to make the average westerner even moderately curious about this subject

    • @theatheistbear3117
      @theatheistbear3117 ปีที่แล้ว

      Capitalism is good. Neoliberalism is terrible. Communism is worse.

    • @donaldhysa4836
      @donaldhysa4836 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its the average western that flirts with socialism so he can have another Holomodor on their side of the isle. THis guy aint from an ex communist country if you havent noticed

    • @krejados1
      @krejados1 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's all in who you read. Malcolm Nance insists the Russian oligarchy was made purely out of Russian greed and a lust for power. He completely overlooks the IMF and World Bank's roles in devastating - and then, shaping these countries.
      By contrast, Naomi Klein lays out a fact-based, annotated narrative that describe what JT just talked about. (I suspect, for brevity's sake, he had to limit his topic to Russia. In fact, the IMF and the US deployed Shock Therapy all over the world.)
      Nance, a 6-generation military man, rah-rahs the US and everything it does, no matter how destructive. Klein, a Canadian-born activist (and female!) is given nowhere near the platform or credibility. Incidentally, neither are Chris Hedges or other such voices.
      If you're only ever fed one perspective, would you have any reason to believe there might be another?

    • @warrengraham5145
      @warrengraham5145 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right? Like you have to learn stuff the hard way before you can really uncover the festering filth boiling beneath the surface. People don't question things, think for themselves. Exactly why videos like this are important.

    • @MrBassmann15
      @MrBassmann15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most of us already know about this.

  • @22bendavis
    @22bendavis ปีที่แล้ว +44

    9:06 where people are wandering at an outdoor market surfaced a memory for me of my high school March 1995 visit to Moscow. I had totally forgotten about a time we visited an outdoor market like this nearby to our hotel. I thought nothing of it at the time, but realize it likely was a direct effect of shock therapy and the recent transition to capitalism. Amazing to be able to tie this interesting topic to a long forgotten memory.

  • @element_119
    @element_119 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm pretty sure I recognize the song playing in the outro, does anybody know what it is?

  • @rafaszostak22
    @rafaszostak22 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am from Poland and here the economic transition from socialism into capitalism was very much succesful. The problems Russia faced are political in nature, not economic.

    • @chrisgaming9567
      @chrisgaming9567 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is basically genocide denial

    • @olegc002
      @olegc002 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s because Poland transition was done via extremely cheap loans by US in order to make a capitalism advertisement out of it. Of course similar credit lines were denied for Russia later, which Sachs confirms in his interviews, By no means US could fund loans for a superpower.

    • @olegc002
      @olegc002 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But at the same time, US was happy to try and takeover critical infrastructure and military state secrets via capitalist takeovers for dirt cheap, - like those moving jet nozzles for f35s or missile tech and nuclear tech. So a so-called benevolent hegemony quickly turned into plunder and outright theft, which makes you wonder whether there was any benevolence in it at all.

    • @olegc002
      @olegc002 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Rehunauris dude, i've experienced Sachs' and Anders Aslund's Schock therapy reforms myself, when overnight my family with physics PHDs couldn't afford butter for me or my 3-year old brother. Meanwhile all the "western" corporations were happy to pillage state enterprises, factories, banks and every other piece of property.
      It's ok to not know shit, it is not to remain ignorant.

  • @TylerCWilliams
    @TylerCWilliams ปีที่แล้ว +1692

    Yeltsin was a horrible man. I can't understand why someone would destroy their people's high quality of life for cheap personal gain.

    • @WebertHest
      @WebertHest ปีที่แล้ว +97

      I mean he is also quite crucial for the dissolution of the USSR not turning into a civil war.

    • @Praisethesunson
      @Praisethesunson ปีที่แล้ว +137

      The check cleared and the liquor was decent.

    • @RealNeutronStar
      @RealNeutronStar ปีที่แล้ว +14

      From a libertarian point of view I don't agree, but Capitalism has problems, but not many, and State Capitalism even more! 🔥

    • @nathanbrady8529
      @nathanbrady8529 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the United States, we would rather see people die than have the medical industry miss out on profits.

    • @targe4070
      @targe4070 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He got put there by CIA, to turn Russia into Gas station for EU.

  • @jackfordon7735
    @jackfordon7735 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    I'm American, but I studied Russian at university, have spent a lot of time living and traveling around the former USSR, and am now a certified Russian language interpreter. It's incredible how much my view of events in the post-Soviet space have changed since learning the language and starting to hear first-person accounts of what life was like in the USSR. No matter where I've been, whether Siberia, Moldova, Ukraine, the Russian Far East, quality of life seems to have significantly decreased for people. The exception to this being Moscow and Saint Petersburg, but even there, many people struggle to make ends meet. There also seems to be a collective trauma amongst older people who have lost their homeland- I remember being on a bus with an older lady in Moldova, we had to stop at a checkpoint on our way to Transnistria, and she said to me "Как же грустно, раньше это все было одной страной, сейчас нас разделяют границы"- "It's sad, this all used to be one country, but now borders separate us." She was on her way to visit friends in Ukraine.
    Beyond becoming just poor, the region has become incredibly unstable. All of these recent conflicts, from the breakaway States of Transnistria and Nagorno-Karabakh, to the wars in Chechnya, Georgia, and Ukraine, all are direct or indirect consequences of the country's collapse.
    We really are spoon-fed propaganda in the West, and ever since the war in Ukraine started, it seems to have accelerated. People acting as if this conflict just came out of the blue, and not just a domino effect of the devastation this part of the world has experienced since the 1990s...

    • @marinakaverina2864
      @marinakaverina2864 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      That is so true. Thank you for sharing. I’m one of those many people missing their home. My birth certificate says USSR, it’s so dear to me, you can’t imagine

    • @vadimk3484
      @vadimk3484 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@marinakaverina2864 Same here. I was an infant when the USSR was demolished, but I grew up on Soviet books, and I'm incredibly pissed that our generation is forced to work meaningless unsatisfying BS jobs, mostly limit our dreams to a new gadget or a vacation trip to Bali, and be thankful for this largely pointless existence.
      In my early teens I thought that we might get to see a city on the Moon before we die. Nowadays I'm dead certain that we won't see one, and I'm not even sure if we'll even get to grow old and die from natural causes.

    • @jmlkinc
      @jmlkinc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except Ukrainians are no longer systemically murdered like they were during the Holodomor.
      Ukrainians were always abused by Russia. And now they are genocided by Russia.
      Fuck Russia.

    • @BTin416
      @BTin416 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spot on: in 2022, some 30+ years after communism ended, people are doing worse today than they were under the old system. I think we've had enough trial and error to know capitalism doesn't really work for most people in the globe.

    • @BTin416
      @BTin416 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dmytro My words are my words, I never said what you wrote. I can speak for myself.

  • @mnk9073
    @mnk9073 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ah Gorbachow: best case an idiot, worst case an enemy agent.

  • @howie4901
    @howie4901 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate you and your work.

  • @costasakellariou3530
    @costasakellariou3530 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    My friend Rory Peck, a film maker, was killed in the fighting outside the Ostankino television building in the fighting in 1993. It really made my day to come across your channel in this time of near black out of news except the daily talking points of Zhelensky...Very clear and on point throughout...

  • @tribinaaux4043
    @tribinaaux4043 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    East Germany, Czechia and Poland are closer to the centre of global capital accumulation, if they were farther away they would also be piss poor. DDR, Polish and Czech Republic's industries were also decimated in the 90s, they switched their economies to service and financial capitalism instead of producing real goods

    • @samisami-qb5tl
      @samisami-qb5tl ปีที่แล้ว

      Hungary too.
      But we dont forget it and dont kissing @$$es of George soros.
      But you do

    • @vzoryan1769
      @vzoryan1769 ปีที่แล้ว

      this center, I assume, is somewhere at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean?

  • @HamzaTalksFootball
    @HamzaTalksFootball 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The bit about Contras, took me back to watching the series called Snowfall.

  • @kylehagie1647
    @kylehagie1647 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey i know this vid is old now but if anyone could ID the track that starts around 12:50 i would be very grateful. it sounds a lot like Ross From Friends to me but i cant be sure

  • @HistoryforThinkers
    @HistoryforThinkers ปีที่แล้ว +319

    Rich people in Russia: oligarchs
    Rich people in US: job creators

    • @feister2869
      @feister2869 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      Job creators who don’t let their workers piss.

    • @bootstraphan6204
      @bootstraphan6204 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      "Job Creators" who lay off tens of thousands of workers on a whim ...

    • @Y0NI
      @Y0NI ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Job creators who rather would you starving homeless then paying a single cent to you (if they could)

    • @missk1697
      @missk1697 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Rich people in China: Industrialists, technological innovators

    • @solankijimmy
      @solankijimmy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sterlingmarshel6299 B B B Bootlickerrrr

  • @kurtcobain3720
    @kurtcobain3720 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    A friend I made during my college years told me about his father surviving this disaster and ultimately fleeing to the US. He said people in Russia began to say, "Everything they said about communism was a lie but everything they said about capitalism was true."

    • @petrsukenik9266
      @petrsukenik9266 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It was not, just russian transition to capitalism was plagued with corruption so much it resulted in catastrophe
      But look at Czech republic, in communist times, we were russian pupet and life was no so great
      Now, after transition to market economy, minimal wage here is higer than aweradge wage in Russia
      Don't look just at Russia to judge transition to capitalism, look at nations russia was colonizing

    • @keiralum1797
      @keiralum1797 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@petrsukenik9266 because you are closer to metropoly and you participate ib co-expluatation of weaker countries.

    • @petrsukenik9266
      @petrsukenik9266 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@keiralum1797 LOL, no

    • @petrsukenik9266
      @petrsukenik9266 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keiralum1797 imagine beliving russia is not exploiting other nations

    • @kakoypsevdonimlol
      @kakoypsevdonimlol ปีที่แล้ว

      @@petrsukenik9266, lol, today you are american puppet. Did you needed to made accent on your position in politic? For some reasons, many citynes of countries of the formed socialist bloc believe that with the collapse of USSR, they position in the world is changing. They believe that they countries are now sovereign, than now they are not used as springboard for military equipment. And in fact, you have changed the owner, that's all. But you still living in illusions of «freedom». Yes, american occupation, of course, is muuuuuch softer than soviet, in which the czechs were crushed by tanks. The memories are fresh and therefore it is clear why now you consider yourself as «protected not-a-satellite». But it will hurt to destroy illusions.