Has A110 surpassed Cayman or NSX? Touge Showdown.
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- Has A110 surpassed Cayman or NSX? Touge Showdown.
[ENTRY CAR]
RENAULT ALPINE A110
PORSCHE 718 Cayman
HONDA NSX type S Modullo
[DRIVER]
DK Keiichi Tsuchiya
MAX Manabu Orido
NOB Nobuteru Taniguchi
[STAGE]
GUNMA CYCLE SPORT CENTER (GUNSAI) - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
praise to who ever makes the subtitles
nsxの評価そこそこ高くて嬉しい。
nsxはこれから先一生大事に乗ってくつもりですが、本当にいい車ですよ。
'97～'01のII型のNA2、しかもtype Sに2011年リリースのフルモデューロパーツ仕様は今だって相当に素晴らしい。
音も本当に堪らない。
It still the best car show, love to watch thanks for the subs
Thank You very much for the English subtitles! 😁
Loving the subtitles!
thank you for english subtitles!
It’s why I subscribe!
makes me so happy when these are subtitled.
YESSS
純粋にNSX色々と美しい。ミッドナイトパールも貴重だなぁ
Many thanks for the ENG subs!
8:59 proved that Alpine successfully capture the original 1960's into this remake version
Great episode
Thank you!
Thanks for the subtitles!
織戸さんがいつもしてる温かみ感じるコメント好きだわ
Arigatou for the english subs!
amazing!! Bet MOTORing is the best TH-cam Car channel
thanks for ENGLISH !!!
ちょうどMFG読んでたからありがたい笑
The nsx is just so beautiful
NSXかっけぇなぁ
いつか乗ってみたい！
i come back to this video religiously
Wow, a very surprising car for this channel!
タイトルだけで最高
Thank for Any English Subtitle...pls share your Passion with the World
if Gordon Murray, the creator of the McLaren F1, and the T50, daily drives an A110, then you know it HAS to be good
do you know what package they drive?
Well it is a beautiful car and probably a fun one to.
@@guigui78340 1st Edition (so, It's comparable to PURE (252 PS)), A110 PURE current setting Is for "drift and fun" but you can easily modify to make it "sharp and precise" ;-)
@@guigui78340 standard A110 I think
3 great cars. 3 great drivers.
A110良いですねえ
昔のデザインを残して
更に良くしていく
昔の911のように
全車カッコいい
That A110 is very good looking
Alpines, built in Normandy 🇨🇵 !
What a beauty.
Beautiful NA1 NSX!!
This is an NA2🌹
NSXのエンジン音が最高。
NSXははしっとりしていて以外でした。バランスが抜群でした！滅茶苦茶乗りやすかったです。
初期型が出て30年経つNSX。
タイプSだってモデューロでリフレッシュしてても20年は経過してる。
その車が、今の時代の車と走っても肩を並べるんだからね。
当時NSXが凄過ぎたのか、やっと時代が追いついて追い越したのかって思う
MR Racing have a setup with the A110 with KW suspension and Dunlop Direzza dealing with a much powerfull GT4 in nurburgring, the car in stock form is very supple and fun.
*to be honest that nsx type-s still looks sexy for its age in this current time. even you add 20 more years to that car it will still looks cool like a katana.*
Yeah it ages very well, it will be a classic car
Every time I see the A110, I think about Sawatari Koki
Too bad they didn't tryed the A110 S, it's a more raddical version and better for get good chrono. Thx for the subtitles.
Too bad they didn't tried the Cayman 718 GTS
A110はあえてグリップの低いタイヤを履いてるけど、それでも今時の車だから速いですね
thanks for the english subs
Looks like the main issue holding back the A110 are the tires.
it had perfect road tires not touge time attack ones because its a road car and its a best road car compared to other 2 - i owned both 3 ended up with a110
同じような峠ニュルで鍛え上げたポルシェだから、クオリティーは高いに決まってるよね。
今日A110R TURINIを注文してきました！
1,700万でしたのでちょっとだけ高い買い物になってしまったが後悔しません！
峠で土屋さんに会いたい
- Texas Godhand
First time I've seen new Hot Version in years and it threw me off just seeing Tanaguchi and Orido and Tsuchiya as Nob and Max and DK.
put same tyres on all 3 - would be interesting to see the difference minus tyre choice
Interested to see any Japanese tuning companies getting their hands on the 718 Cayman and start developing parts for it as the market is very scarce right now. Even my car right now, I only have the basic of suspension, brakes and tires. Its a great chassis to work on and that understeer, Nob and DK are talking about can be tuned out with just alignment.
Not sure where you are located, but there are tons of parts for the 718 platform, ECU tunes, brakes, suspension, exhausts, etc. Just go to the usual Porsche forums and you will find many leads (UK, Europe as well as the US)
@@twoslow2speed2000 I've done all the cookie cutter parts already. I'm talking more specifically with a better intercooler core, intercooler heat exchangers, etc. which nobody makes unfortunately.
Еще один с субтитрами, отлично!
NSX、今見ても古さを感じない
古いわ😂
@@Klaha450911🤓｢古いわ😂｣
いまでもかっこよいとは思うが古さは感じるわ
良い悪いとかではなくてね
どう見ても古いが
@@fujiwara_takumi_え、ごめん車オタの方がチー牛じゃないの？🤔
きたー
さすが718ケイマンやね
Honda NSX is perfection!
Nothing is comparable to the Classic Honda NSX!
Amazing built quality and timeless design.
That the real reason the NSX is going up the price..... A real masterpiece of a car!
2:03
正に優雅、似合う言葉。クーペ、typeS、typeTそれぞれ結構違うのよね。
Honda ♥️
ポルシェって乗ってみると本当凄いよね。サーキットのタイムがどうとかじゃなく、エンジン、ブレーキ、ハンドリング全てが官能的で感動する。
四気筒ポルシェは乗った事ないので分からんが。
I wonder what tyres you recommend for a110, the mention higher grip tyres could help. Cheers great channel. Thank you.🙏
Alpineは峠で楽しく走るならA110pure、サーキットやタイムアタックならA110Sですね。
A110S with proper tires would be very interesting to see here !
Michelin tyres with less grip especially made for the Alpine. You may or may not like that decision...
Porsche does not betray the driver.
It's always. 100 points!
Carrera GT?
SUGOI!!!
旧NSXはもう何十年も前の旧車です。それを現代の車と対象にするところが凄い！さすがNSX！
A110って言えば某漫画のあの人のイメージあるよね
A110良いね、ハイグリップタイヤで攻めた場合も見てみたい
New Cayman with 4.0L engine will be another animal on this circuit.
👍 Would be good to see, also the 718s 2.5l turbo as 200lb lighter then the 4.0l and more usable power over this type of cse
86BRZの後継は、A110みたいにならないかな。
それでもNSXが好き
I am dying to see a proper Japanese tuned A110 now
Version "S" of the Alpine A110 is the answer. It has stiffer suspensions and good grip tires.
The sway bars are different and the key to shift the balance of the car towards something more neutral and effective on the S. Everyone who drove both versions agree it's a bit less progressive on the limit though.
The new NXS that's like the old NSX is the Lotus Evora GT
速さを第一に考えたらNSXはタイプRで行けばタイムでA110やケイマンと張り合えたかもしれんけど、乗り心地、乗りやすさの総合評価で走りを見極めるためにタイプSにあえてしたんかな？
Porsche is my fav car, but i ike the jdm tung culture. There is a chance a porsche get tuning like bmw assist?
dunno if you know this, but there's people in Japan with porsches too
and yes they do modify them
I don't surprise the result because the newest Boxer is modern car which has many electronic systems to assist driver on the best tracking. So it's not fair to compare with classic car.
Yea soon they philosophize only about possible fun when cars came out where the driver don't need to do anything for a perfekt lap and only old people like driving themselves 🤣 .
I see it coming because of looks when you say you want a manual car .
Ok the selfdriving part could take longer than some people expect.
Take this as a joke to the topic
FWIW: The cars are usually tested with PSM/TC off at Gunsai. So no electronic nannies present besides the active suspension management used on the PASM struts.
they were all off, lol
今どちらか貰えるならA110が欲しい。
流石にNSXは古いからね。
NA1やっぱ好きだなぁ
タイプSは3.2なのでNA2ですよん🏎️
The A110 looks like a mercedes amg one from the back but without a spoiler!
Now that you mention it... although it technically is the opposite: The AMG One's back looks like an A110 with a spoiler.
@@B4R0N. We started talking about the a110 thats why i was like it looks like the amg one
@@B4R0N. And that's when we start talking about the amg one in the first place we gotta be like it looks like a a110 from the back
280馬力規制がかけられた中で開発されたNSXが、現代の車に引けを取らないのが凄すぎる！！
MAXU IMPRRRRSSONNN
実車は買えないけどトミカとかミニカーで欲しいなあA110
Dream vs Dream vs Dream. Competition among Dreams makes eternal Dreams those live in each dreamers passion
Wo 2021 video !
ポルシェはやっぱいいんだなあ。
沢渡とベッケンバウアーだね
アルピーヌは学生時代にボロボロの個体が近所の整備工場前で198万で売りに出てた思い出
現行110欲しいなぁ…この中では購入の敷居は幾らか低いんだけど…
中古でA110 1970～73年式見たら値段はほぼASKで1台だけ980万円…手が届きません😇
今だと1600CCの程度良いもので2000万近くしてしまいます、198万の時代が羨ましいです。
写りが綺麗 カメラ変わった？
Cayman, A110, NSX.
Even DK is praising the 718
A110峠で走る姿を観たかった！A110とCaymanで少し迷ったけどCaymanにしました。
ただ音的にNAは外せなくて981のCayman GTSに。A110もいつか乗ってみたいな〜
ケイマンGTSやGT4だとどうなるんだろう
NSX世界一かっこいい
6:37 ケイマンは前後のサス形式をマクファーソンストラットに統一してるところがこのロールバランスの良さを生み出す根幹なような気がする。インプレッサなんかも前後ストラットだったGG系までの頃の方が前後のロールバランスは良かったように思う。ストラットだからとかダブルウィッシュボーンだからどうではなくて、ジオメトリー変化特性が大きく異なるサスペンション同士を前後に配置する際にはそれなりに設計段階であわせ込める技術がないと良いロールバランスを出す事は難しいのでは？と感じる。その点ポルシェはその技術力があるのにも関わらず前後マクファーソンストラットを採用する辺りが確信犯的で凄い。
FWIW, the strut based rear suspension on the Cayman suffers from bump steer when it is loaded and at the limit of adhesion, what Tsuchiya-san experienced at Gunsai is a bit different from what you will find at the track. The 981/718 cars all require a rear bump steer kit to prevent substantial rear toe changes that can have serious consequences at the track.
NSX all the way!
Nsx all day
What's wrong with the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres? I'm asking because they're supposed to be a very good set for that use. Any thoughts?
Nothing wrong with them and are great for street use. Im not sure how they classify tires in japan but in usa its classified as a Max performance summer tire which is 1 tier lower than the best tier street tires known as extreme summer performance tire.
Semi slicks would be the fastest streetable tire but isn't normally considered a street tire, automakers usually don't roll their cars off the factory with anything above extreme summer tires. After that you got full on race slicks which is not street legal.
@@0j00n the nsx looked like it had some semi slicks on tho, so its understandable why they noted the tires used on the a110 in comparison
Keep in mind, these are not the PS4S tires that replaced the Pilot Super Sports. These are the PS4 base tire, which is a much less aggressive tire. PS4S tires would have been much better here. The NSX had tires closer to the Sport Cup 2 in terms of tread softness.
its a great road tire, especially on the rain or when cold, it has lot of grip even on +3-5 C asphalt wet or dry
Oh baby 110 love.
Nsx forever
cayman on 20' tires
drivers love porch
そのクルマを買ったとして峠を攻められるかっていうと、俺は無理
Ｚ３２だって峠は流すだけだった。そりゃそうだ
漫画サーキットの狼の頃は免許がなかったから
楽しんでたけど（スーパーカーで攻めるってすごいよね）
イニシャルＤで北条豪がＮＳＸで出たときはぶっ飛んだね
半分リアルだと思ってたから。
最後スピンした後どうなったのか気になってしょうがなかった
ホント小市民です。
Porsche rules.
A110いつか買いたい夢の1台
金にモノ言わせてGT4エアロつけるんだ。。