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Most people crying about a matte coating don’t even have an oled monitor or tv to begin with.
And where did you verify this statistic?
I've had both matte, glossy, and semi-glossy OLED displays. Matte on the latest W-OLED monitors sucks. Where's your God now?
@@phahqI've had Matte on the latest OLED monitors as well and it I prefer it over Glossy. Where's your God now bud?
@@phahqimo I prefer matte
I dunno I am sat in front of my AW3423DW and have a matte mini led monitor at my other set up and it would be much better as glossy
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What a poor comment. Do better
@@riomendoza1111 irony
@@riomendoza1111 wtf
Semi gloss would be a good balance
Thank you for making this video! A Couple years back I switched from an older matte finish monitor to a new glossy finish monitor and I felt that the glossy finish had a big effect on improving the contrast and sharpness. Overall, I much prefer it. It’s good to know that monitors that are labeled with having a matte finish in 2024 are not the same as monitors from years past that had a matte finish.
Don't get your hopes up too much because a common complain with these LG OLED monitors are that the coating looks oily and grainy. I don't know if it's a person to person thing if Optimum can't see it, but matte is most certainly still a big issue for a good deal of people.
@@noidsuper Yes I think it also depend from constructor to constructor I'm pretty sure that asus matte finish still sux even in 2024
The level of detail being specified in this video while being this short is really incredible.
There's a reason why this guy is almost a million sub TH-camr.
Truly top quality videos.
Misinfo presented in a good way is still misinfo. This video is literally light matte vs. semi glossy. The problem is that he doesn't know what he is comparing.
ok then make a good video with perfectly accurate points, stated facts , not even a slight mistake allowed. prove by A+b that one is better than the other one. lets see if you perfectly know what you are talking about then.@@Deffine
@@Gekihen_ Poor attempt at apologism.
@@Gekihen_pepega response
@@Deffine just want to know real information since this is misinfo, and why this is missinfo. Tired of hearing waa waa matte bad
The "matte" coatings on the newer OLEDs are not quite matte in a traditional sense. My PG27AQDM looks significantly more glossier than the Alienware 240Hz IPS display I bought 4 years ago. I would say it's the best of both worlds
He says that in the video
@@CertifiedSlamboywho gives a shit just let the guy say his opinion
@@CertifiedSlamboy my bad
Agreed, color and details aren't necessarily compromised when it's done right. Hopefully more companies jump on this train.
Yeah I agree, I think they should probably find a new word in between both, that will be more representative of the actual coating. (Something like Semi-matte or semi-glossy for example)
I tested one friend 240HZ OLED and is not as matte as I thought. I myself have a QD-OLED, I'm happy but when I open the curtains during the day, the Monitor looks more like a really good IPS, because the blacks are more of a gray. OLED technology is good.
Most people that spoke about matte or glossy coating are expecting the matte from an IPS and is nowhere near that level of matte.
Thank you very much for the video! Been here ever since you inspired me to build in the NCASE M1 and your content has only gotten better.
I was waiting for this video. Thank you 🙏🏾
Absolute optimal content! gotta love it!!!
Always appreciate the in depth reviews Optimum produces.
the new studio space is so good, can't believe you found a warehouse-like space so minimally clean to match your video aesthetic. Excited to see more from this like the racing setup video.
You always produce some amazing videos! I always appreciate your candor.
I love the new warehouse. There was some minor echoing that I heard. I don't remember hearing it in your Racing Sim video. Just thought I would point it out though. 😄
You nailed it I think. Your video solves my biggest dilemma on which these two specific monitors should I choose.
and which one do you prefer now? Curious. Glossy?
Exactly the comparison video i have been looking for weeks. Thanks man
I am not writing this to attack you just to point out a funny irony about certain things, but "Exactly the comparison video I have been looking for weeks." you dont happen to try and find this exact comparison from "The display guy" right?
Thank you very much for your informative video. I looked for a tip button and couldn't find one but I subscribed to your channel.
Thank you for making this video. People were so up in arms about the matte finish despite almost every reviewers having no issues with matte. drawing attention away from the real strengths and weaknesses of the monitors
Such as no USB C or Dolby Vision support.
Great video, answering the questions I didn't even know I needed to ask. I would have never considered that WOLED and QD-OLED would handle ambient light differently but it is definitely something to consider when contrast and black levels are some of the major selling points of OLED.
It was a well known behavior of the coating on QD-OLED panels in TVs. After all, we saw these panels first used in TVs, not monitors, and the people do well detailed reviews of TVs in general and the information is readily available from there.
Thanks for the info. I LOVE my AW32 QD-OLED. LOVE it.
your studio with that lighting looks really cool
Appreciate you going through all this.
the best tech creator that gets straight to the point with so much info in a short time frame on yt. 1 mill soon bro, well deserved.
He consistently makes the best content
just due to muscles
Also the fact that this is good second channel reaching 1 mil is astonishing
And he doesn't waste time asking for like and subscribe, or sponsors.
I preordered this LG, cant wait! Thanks for the review and impressions
Hope the cooling fan will be silent
Great Video Man! Probably one of the best Matte vs. GLOSSY videos I have seen. I need that LG in my life.. but that Asus be looking good tho
Even though they are calling it matte it's actually a semi-gloss coating, not full gloss but semi-gloss, it's definitely not a matte coating
The matte finish on this monitor is not as bad as some people claim it to be. Matte in general is getting a bad reputation and I don't like that people are being shamed for liking it. I do think it would be good to give consumers the option of matte or glossy but crying over someone's opinion is not a good solution. Keep up the good work with your videos by the way my friend.
Great video and definitely needs to be shared. Digital trends also did a great job covering matte vs glossy at CES this year.
I agree. I actually thought I wasn’t going to be happy with my GR2795QE when I saw all the comments before I bought it. All the panels in my house are glossy OLED including a 48” C2 I use for another monitor, but I didn’t really see a difference after I got it all setup. It’s a sweet monitor other than the HDMI bug.
I’ll chime in here with some useful information. That actually proves both are right.
I have seen both at my work(Bestbuy) and I have had time to analyze both.
The matte coating is phenomenal under our harsh lighting overhead. However viewing content with sharp bright light like white text screens. The matte coating is very obvious. Under normal use though it’s a lot harder since most content is dark by nature.
The glossy screens to have a perceivable contrast and color pop to my eyes but I have 20/10 so this isn’t a fair comparison.
But I can definitely see why someone would choose one over the other.
I hate reflections, that's why I choose matte. The problem is that the people that prefer glossy will never understand this. When you mention this you will only hear them say "but matte also has reflections, it just scatters them and makes the whole display worse", well sort of, it scatters them, makes them less noticeable and makes it possible to read text and not see my own reflection. Personally I choose no reflections over a bit better contrast and text clarity.
@@pasi123567 i was never personally bothered by reflections until I used a surface laptop 3. I found it really bizarre considering I'm used to using glossy displays everywhere since I hate matte displays. That display really triggered me that day and I understand how you feel. Having said that, my Macbook is glossy and not an issue whatsoever. I have never thought about reflections. Not once. I have also used the surface book 2 and surface laptop 2, all of which had the same issue. It was really quite extreme with them.
@@pasi123567 Agreed.
Excellent video and squashes a lot of the noise currently going on about these monitors. Really appreciate it!
Thanks for this interesting comparison!
Straight to the point, no BS. Thank you for this quality video!
Dude, your shadows and lights are top notch. Wanted to give some credit to the little things that add to the excellent overall production quality.
Actually helped me decide so much. This is crazy thank you optimum. I am now considering the LG monitor
He's shilling, but take him for his word anyway.
@@DrakonR explain in full detail how he's shilling
@@JosoLifts when you receive products to review, it tends to skew the bias. Just saying.
@@DrakonR that's not a thorough explanation. I'm pretty sure they sent him both products so what's your take on that. He didn't buy any of the two monitors I'm pretty sure so his opinion still remains unbiased no?
If there’s a light shining directly onto your screen from a light bulb or window buy the matte. If the window’s behind your monitor or it’s not very sunny where you live then get the glossy. Glossy isn’t that much clearer. What’s the big deal
optimum out there killin it - thanks 4 making this one bro!
For me, it's the blooming reflection that I hate for matte panel. Look at 4:50 for example, even though the light reflection is only half across the matte panel and fully across in the glossy one, the reflection still looks significantly more distracting on the matte panel.
If you think about it, your big tv is glossy, you small phone is glossy, why the heck that monitors insists on making matte panel? If anything, the environment that a monitor typically sits is probably the easiest environment for you to control the light and reflection, compared to living room that your tv sits in or outdoor environment where your phone is used.
It's probably not that big of a deal in practice, but people are paying top dollar for these monitors, I think they have the right to nitpick
Having used glossy and matte displays, I'd prefer matte for a monitor personally. That mainly comes down to working in an office environment or a room with ambient lighting from a window. I'll take hazy blooming over sharp reflections.
I completely removed my matte finish on my Alienware dwf qd-oled. Best thing I ever did on my dwf. The colors pop so much more. I'm going to do this for every single oled monitor I have that comes with any matte finish. Wasn't that hard to do either. Just a little time consuming.
How?
I have the pg27aqdm 240hz matte oled and there is no haziness at all like my old 120hz va panel, the coating is just like the clarity of any glossy coating but with matte reflections & glare, i feel like the people complaining havent seen the new oled coatings bcz theyre crystal clear
I agree with optimum here in every respect! I had the opportunity to test both matte and glossy. I currently own a Corsair Xeneon 27QHD240 W-OLED monitor from 2023 which also has a matte coating and I would never go back to a glossy one as I not only game at night but also work in a very bright room during the day and as shown in the video, the difference between matte and glossy during the day with strong sunlight is huge!
Thanks, Ali. You made my purchase decision a little bit easier now.
Insane video man, so cool, continue
Hello Optimum, much love from france!💙
It's funny I saw a OLED monitor with Glossy and Matt, the glossy HDR pops so much more with the colors.
because you see glossy qd oled, and qd oled have much more vibrant punchier color then woled
PERFECTLY TIMED HELL YEAAAAAAAAH
Thank you for the work you do
What you pointed out is exactly what I am experiencing with the Asus 32 inch QD Oled I am in the process of boxing up and returning. The fringing makes Samsungs display not usable for me even at 4K. You just validated what I was experiencing. I am waiting for the 27 inch 480hz variant coming out later this year and going to rock my IPS 165hz a bit longer.
I’ve got the 27GS95QE and it’s beautiful! Can use it during the brightest sunny days with blinds opened. I like my natural light. People who want glossy, don’t understand the amount of reflection they’ll get.
Can you hear the fan Inside the Monitor?
@@lukiohearn173 Not unless I have audio from speakers muted and I put my ear contactint the air vent.
@@lukiohearn173 If you are sitting in a generell quiet room in front of your Monitor you can hear it. Yes, a little bit of sound, Music or an Open Window will overshadow it.
But if you sometimes sit in silence then you can hear it.
The worse part is actually the Violet somewhat reflective Bar at the Bottom of the Screen...
But on the positive the LG was already very early available for good discount.
The Corsair is Fanless and with an much Cleaner Design.
I had a LG C3 42inch and upgraded to a LG OLED 45 inch Ultra Wide Screen with the Anti glare screen and didn’t like the way the anti glare screen looked vs the glossy C3 so I went back and return the LG Oled 45 inch Ultra wide and repurchase the LG C3 42 inch Oled
That is what I am afraid of as well. I ve been rocking with C2 42inch and I love everything about it except being too large for desktop use.
However I am almost sure, going for matte woled or semi-glossy qd-oled will make me sad about the exchange. We need 32inch WOLED with same polarizer application and full glossy as on TVs!
Thanks a lot for the video, you clarified a lot for me
Fantastic info. I'm in the middle of deciding which monitor to buy. So thank you :)
Every single time Optimum uploads, it's about something I was looking at within the last week. His consistency to be on the same wavelength of stuff I'm thinking about is insane.
I think they should be more focused on WOLED vs. QD-OLED because that makes a much bigger impact on the experience, as you mentioned.
WOLED handles reflections better at a very slight cost of color and peak brightness (which most won't notice) but offer reportedly less burn-in risk than QD-OLED and no triangle pixels.
QD-OLED is more reflective and has slightly better color accuracy and peak brightness, but at the cost of a sub-optimal pixel layout and potentially slightly more burn-in risk.
Actually WOLED has better overall brightness.
@@CasepbXnot in this video it doesn't lol. All the colors look brighter and have more contrast than the woled. And that's not just my subjective opinion it's backed up by factual review measurements. If you want my subjective opinion, as someone who owns a woled TV and a QD OLED monitor, when I put them side by side the HDR colors look significantly better on the QD
I have a LG OLED TV and recently replaced my IPS Monitor with the AW3225QF. So I have WOLED and QD-OLED to compare. I use settings to get the most accurate picture possible.. (no oversaturation or anything like that) And I must stress that the color volume with HDR is significantly higher with QD-OLED. With those Demo Videos I now see colors I've never seen on my WOLED. It really makes a difference and in comparison you can basically see that there is a saturation drop when the LG gets near peak brightness because it relies so heavily on that white subpixel. The colored subpixels just can't keep up with the brightness but the QD OLED subpixels can. It really is noticable. The QD-OLED really feels like one of those high-end smartphone Displays.
Wish I could get qd oled colour volume with LG perfect blacks. (qd oled black levels are worse than LCD)@@Relex_92
Wonderful video as always
Don't watch The display guy. I feel like he acts on impulse. I appreciate your sincerity.
yea this dude is just cringe
Reddit's going to have a meltdown with this one.
I love how succinct your videos are whilst still articulating your full thoughts. The lowkey vibes make watching so relaxing. Also, your filming studio backdrop looks dope, the visual quality and clarity is always excellent. Keep doing what you're doing
Great video, I think people worry about this coating "issue" far too much. I have a Sony A80K OLED tv (77") and reflections etc are not an issue even when watching during the daytime, content looks amazing!
With the same black levels,I far prefer no color fringing over a tiny bit of sharpness.
QD oled black levels are worse than LCD with any ambient light involved. It only has perfect 'oled' black in a pitch black room.
Its only sharper on a microscopic level, in a real life setting where Microsoft refuses to fix this issue the QD Oled is really bad with text clarity unless Microsoft actually makes it as "good" as it is in microscopic level
@@definingslawek4731 Yes unless you live like a goblin in a dark cave with 0% light glossy goes closer to grey than black.
need a tour of that optimum cave asap!
awesome, thanks for that video!
Great comparison.. really easy to see the difference
Thank you for this video. There is no shortage of people shouting their opinions online from a place of ignorance, but too few making the comparison side by side.
Awesome video. I also saw a lot of comments that Matte was just trash. I was skeptical. I play a lot during the day, bad reflections can be a killer for me. I think the Woled will be the clear choice for me, higher brightness and better handling of light reflections.
Great videos on the 4K OLEDs, not sure if you will see this but which panel are you using on a daily basis & which do you recommend. Thanks
I own a pg27aqdm as well as the mpg321urx, and I actually do feel the dark color looks better on the woled, especially the black and the dark colors, but with the glossy coating, the brighter image looks "brighter" and more clear. And if your lighting setup is on point, there won't be that much of a light reflecting on both coating,so I guess it comes down to preference. However, I am comparing between two different generations and different resolution, it might not be that big of a difference between the same generations though.
PS: I do believe the LG model cost a little bit more since there's no MSI version to choose from.
This reminds me of the people that are judging headphones purely by their freq curve and nothing else
graph sniffers
Enlighten me. What else of a headphone are measurable in terms of quality?
Not trying to fight here, truly wanted to know
I bought a Moondrop Chu before truly based on its frequency curve and I kinda got let down by it. I feel that it makes my songs sound low resolution.
Or people just have preferences based on their past experiences of monitor panels.
@@maozedowner5915I don't know about objective metrics, but the subjective sound profile is the most important thing to me. I don't care if a headset is objectively worse than another as long as it sounds better to me.
@@maozedowner5915 After spending thousands on headphones and selling almost all of them I realized that how a headphone makes you FEEL matters much more than frequency response, popularity or a TH-camr's opinion. Today I use galaxy buds 2 pro every day because they sound great to me. I have IEMs more expensive but when I use them it feels like they're missing something even though I know they are "objectively" great and every reviewer says they're perfect.
How does optimum always drop bangers?
Ikr. I reckon it's due to a great lifestyle mindset and philosophy. Careful, mindful, aiming for substance over flair.
@@Un1234l nice analysis, well said
He is honest.
Have you found text rendering on various oled screens to be a problem due to different pixel arrangements and cleartype? If so, have you found any solutions that you'd want to share in a video?
As you said here, you percieve the text to be more pleasant on the matte screen and I have also noticed that, but there are still no good default settings for cleartype to show text sharply on some oleds and it seems like a huge oversight on microsoft's part considering the rise in popularity of oleds.
Thank you for sharing this
Can you please disable clear type for WOLED?
It makes me sad to see so many reviews not seeing how sharp text can be on it when it's not sabotaged.
I would like to see such a comparison too.
This is a quite niche preference.
@@jamesmcjamesington631 Sure, but WOLED have near perfect text rendering if you disable clear type. I own the old 27" LG OLED, where ClearType looked much worse.
@@jamesmcjamesington631 It actually isn't if you consider the fact that tech took 2 decades to give us mass produced OLED monitors where clear type trickery might not be needed
you look like a hunter main but I am glad you play warlock! We don't need more trigger happy folks running about the internet!
lets do last wish or any raid at some point!
Hey Optimum, I would love to know your thoughts on OLED vs Mini-LED. I’ve been hesitant to get a OLED monitor because of burn-in and very low max brightness.
Are you going to be showing us more of your new space soon? : ) I like the vibes
People are probably really questioning the matte finish on 32GS95UE-B and rather or not its the same as the GR line 27GR95QE-B for example? Original 240hz OLEDs matte finish just looks like a nasty oily coat at least when comparing to glossy WOLED TV's. It's not even close and easily perceptible. What I am asking is if the matte finish has improved on the new OLEDs or is it the same.
Reports from the matte-critical crowd and the macro shot of this panel seem to indicate it's the same coating.
@@hugevibezIf this is the case then I cannot possibly understand how Optimum does not see a difference when the problem has been so widely reported. It’s not just conjecture, many users of these previous monitors have made similar observations: oily and grainy coatings.
WOLED it is. Couldn't stand still having bad black values on a OLED while not sitting in complete darkness.
Yes WOLED all the way, I didnt wait 15 years for OLED monitors just to stare grey image of QD-OLED.
Then again if you can use the monitor mostly or exclusively in low light environments, the QD-OLED colours win.
Yeah, its very hard to not shine a flashlight or studio light into monitor to avoid these raised blacks. But hey at least you have washed out colors and no burn in warranty. But who cares about that?
@@MrM-dl5zm
LOL. Even normal ambient room lights wash out QD-OLED blacks. Proven by Optimum, LTT, Techless.
The colours on WOLED are definitely not in the same league as QD-OLED, but they are still very good. Overall a much better package for many... INKY blacks at all light levels + very good colours... versus INKY blacks and excellent colours only in low light rooms... grey blacks and excellent colours in lit rooms.
@MrM-dl5zm Yes, it's pretty hard, actually. At the end of the day it depends on your situation.
Hey optimum love the videos! I would love to see a review on the updated version of the LG27GR95QE the LG27GS95QE. I’ve heard it fixed all the problems the previous version had.
Hey, I just noticed upon rewatch you looking at the 3D renders for the compact build you did. :P Cool.
Glossy's clarity is still better, I prefer glossy on the QD oled, but the lack of fringing on the WOLED. can we have glossy woled?
You won't notice fringing. Text is tack sharp same as you won't notice letter shadows on LG panels @ 4K
QD-OLED does not have a glossy coating, its semi-glossy. Even TFT Reviews site calls them semi-glossy. They have a slight haze in the coating. Its easy to see if you compare it to a glossy LG C2 for example.
@@Deffine Yes both monitors is somewhere inbetween
@@Deffine Still its more "clearer" than matte, even optimum showed in his video macro shot. Best of both worlds. The only is lacking is polarizer that would be helpful for those who live in more lighten up rooms.
@@Deffine No. It is glossy but it has a treatment which dims down reflections but does NOT diffuse them. So it is glossy but not mirror like. I have the AW3225QF right in front of me and a LG 65" OLED behind me...
And yes, you can see the fringing if you look for it. But at 4K it is a non-issue. I don't even think that the subpixel layout is the main problem but the fact that there is no white subpixel and the QD-OLED subpixel have a very high color volume. It basically looks like AMOLED.
Nice video but honestly that comparison was more like "Semi-glossy" vs "Glossy" panels.
The LG isn't matte and seems like the Asus isn't actually glossy as Apple displays or TVs.
True, and the Samsung panels have, even if they are glossy, an anti-reflective coating that is superior to the LG glossy TV displays. The reflection are sharp, but darkened to a high degree on Samsung panels.
Isn't that his point? Matte screens aren't really matte anymore, at least for monitors.
@@ArdentMoogle True
@@ArdentMoogle This is true. My IPS from 2020 also had a completely different matte finish compared to my older monitors. That's just how matte coatings are made nowadays. With the newer matte coatings you can see some reflections just like in the video. But honestly this doesn't really make it better. The hazing is still horrible and could be even worse even if you think that it might be more on the glossy side because of those reflections. Trust me, it's not. Why do you think people didn't like the matte coating on the older 27 in WOLED? It also has one of the new matte coatings but people didn't like it.
Exactly
Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you SO much! :)
Fantastic comparison and exactly what I was looking for. However, could you do a comparison or analysis of how much ambient light is required to create the noticeably raised black levels on the QD-OLED? Everyone talks about having controlled lighting but are we talking no direct light sources hitting the display or do I need to close every blind to reduce as much light as possible? How much control do we actually need over our lights in order to not get those noticeable raised blacks as you've shown? Thanks!
good question
I’ve tried both and oh boy I’ve been missing out a lot by not having a glossy screen.
The difference is huge, pictures feel lifelike especially in HDR.
People are just not realizing this and listen to marketing youtuber and end result is the comments section below.
The entire video you watched just explained how that's not a glossy vs matte thing.
The panel brightness, contrast, and quality are highly likely to be responsible for the way you feel about that monitor, dude.
@@jamesmcjamesington631 yep its just WOLED vs QD-OLED, nothing to do with it being matte or semi-glossy.
@@jamesmcjamesington631 I had a neo g8 which is miniLED and it’s brightness is far superior than any other type of panel, but its matte finish made it look like it’s oily and dirty. There’s a weird rainbow hue on whites.
So yeah it’s not only “the brightness and contrast”
@@chy.0190 But that just isn’t the case. Users of glossy LG OLEDs TVs immediately notice how poor matte WOLEDs look. Hell, a consistent complaint for WOLED monitors with LG panels was the distinctly noticeable oily look the matte coating gave them. This isn’t just a WOLED vs QD-OLED thing.
hey whats the Matter?
short and to the point. Love it. Learned sth from this video and even i know the differences its really a great comparison. Love it. and helpfull. I do also prefer the cleaner look of the lg even though the asus looks amazing as well.
Hey great video! Are OLED monitors the new go to for fps games like Valorant now? I’m thinking about upgrading my 1080p 240hz to a 1440p 240hz but stuck between LCD or OLED. The price difference is also pretty steep
I bought the S95D for the matte. It's excellent.
There are a couple of youtubers who will do nothing but bash any panel that isn't glossy. Unfortunately, they've gathered followers who take their words as gospel and follow suit, without having ever seen the panels in person. I'm really pleased to see someone with such a good reputation take a truly objective look at the topic and not simply dismiss a panel because it's not glossy.
Just to show that I'm not personally biased in this debate, I recently picked up the Alienware AW3225QF, which is a semi-gloss QD-OLED. I wanted 4k OLED, but I also wanted a curved panel and that was the only game in town.
Thanks for you work optimum !
Excactly the topic that we needed.
I myself have a window on the left hand side behind me so i would prefer the LG coating.
However i like the color of the QD OLED more.
i just want my WOLED monitor to have the same coating as my WOLED TV, it isn't that hard and i'm sure most of the "Matte on OLED=BAD" comments come from people with Glossy OLED TVs that want exactly that with their smaller displays. IDEK why Matte is the default for LG OLED monitors when the opposite happens for their TV, it is nonsensical.
Bingo. My 27GR95QE-B has an easily perceptible nasty oily coat. That doesn't mean it's not a good display. It's just not as good as my WOLED Glossy TV. I want that picture, at 4k and 240hz. I want to know, did they improve the matte finish on the new panels vs the old.
I absolutely agree man. We prefer the glossiness of the polarizer layered LG C1/C2/C3 TVs. QD-Oled is not glossy IMO when you have a bright environment black levels are impacted while on LG TVs they are not and appear as inky blacks!
because matte is simply better dealing with reflections and people usually have more lights around when on a PC compared to watching movies in the living room. there is a reason why like 95% of monitors always use matte coatings, glossy coatings on monitors is actually quite rare with OLED being a niche exception, and iMacs.
@@patrikmediaso here are my takes;
- why there is so much rant and demand about glossy products then?
- why oled TVs have it all the way super glossy and successful for generations?
- why our mobile phones have it full glossy when we are basically using it outdoors with tons of light?
I disagree with your argument as it is rather subjective but if you prefer matte, it is fine. It should not be generalized.
Exactly this. Even if it’s less matte or whatever it’s still not as good as glossy.
2:22 But the right one is 10% brighter on the chart
lmao - good catch
that’s a QD oled. Expected to be a little brighter than WOLED. So this is due to panel differences and not due to matte vs glossy.
@@LukeZhao My guess would be more cleaner coating + higher color luminance of qd
So my G9 Neo that can reach 850+ Nitts has better colours than Oled with that logic.
Yo optimum could you review the new altantis pro keyboard?
It's a new keyboard with the rappid trigger feature. I'm only hearing good stuff about this keyboard!
Amazing video! Really made me more confident in waiting for the 480hz 1440p LG panel coming :D (The wait is killing me tho >_< )
I live in a basement level apartment. The room my setup is in has no windows so I'm using all artificial lighting. The slight matte coating on my OLED is a lifesaver. Especially at night when there is no ambient sunlight coming through the doorway.
There are too many different matte coatings. You cannot expect the consumer to test every single monitor to see if the coating it has is acceptable. Watching TH-camrs comment on coatings is not enough. We've had cases where one TH-camr says a coating isn't noticeable at all and another finds it unacceptably ugly.
From that point of view it's maybe easier to understand why some want no coating. It will look amazing every time. It should simply be the default option not to obscure the image in any way. It is flabbergasting how manufacturers for so long thought that blocking reflections is more important than image quality when smartphones had glossy screens form the get go. Smartphones that we frequently use outside and walk around with, which makes lighting conditions uncontrollable and yet nobody ever gave a damn. But somehow we should worry about it with a monitor standing in one place in one room...
The thing with phone screens is that you can move them to avoid reflections at a moments notice. Also theyre usually so tiny that youre not gonna get a great viewing experience anyway and most reflections will uniformly take up the entire screen. Monitors, being larger, reflect way more different things in the room. I personally find it pretty distracting to have my face and upper body superimposed on my monitor the entire time and having a matte coating makes that much less severe. Its totally fine, if you dont have any problems with reflections in your room, but I dont get how matte coatings are supposed to be unnecessary. Especially since you can usually choose between options and the image quality loss is imperceptible on most coatings. Especially compared to glare.
@@great_lake Move them to avoid reflections is only somewhat valid. For the most part, when you're outside you're not removing anything by moving it, everything is too bright. Our brains are great at removing reflections though. You can stand in front a shop window and see your reflection if you concentrate on it. By default you're just gonna see whatever is behind the window because that's what you're focusing on. Glossy monitors work like that as well. Not to mention, the mirror reflection is very dark, it's not actually like a normal mirror. If there's an image displayed on your screen you're not gonna see your reflection at all unless you specifically focus on it.
I feel like most anti-gloss sentiments come from people who try it but are automatically in reflection-detection mode. If you were to just use it for a while you'd realize it's a non issue. Not to mention that anti-glare coating don't really remove reflections anyway, they just diffuse them. So instead you get large blurry blobs of light which can be just as distracting if you focus on them.
I give a damn because every phone I have ever owned has a matte screen protector. When I look at a screen (phone, monitor, TV, etc), I want to see what's on the screen. Not myself or whatever is behind me. I would gladly take a dip in quality that I will NOT see than a glossy coating/finish that I will DEFINITELY see.
@@commandwolf713 Yeah hey, at least you go all the way. Kudos to you. That's not the vast majority of people though.
@@gigantoad3261 I mean fair enough. I dont really use my phone for anything I really want to have a good look at in the open anyway so its not like I mind the reflections much. With monitors its probably just different for individuals. I personally find diffuse reflections much easier to block out. Of course actual bright lights will suck whichever monitor you use. I just think its neat to have the option for both, even if it means theres more work in choosing a display. (Hey wouldnt it be great if there were like actual shops where you could compare different panels instead of every retailer moving all of their inventory online?)
Excellent video thank you!!
I’ve always preferred gloss but I’ve always made my office space as dark as possible because I can’t stand reflections in general personally though I find it easier to ignore a reflection on a gloss then the smear of light you get with the matte panels I switched to a 42” lg oled c2 a couple years ago and it’s amazing for photography work and gaming
The heck u're saying. I can clearly see the black level is deeper on the glossy qd-oled. Not sure though due to the qd-oled panel or the glossy type coating (at least captured by ur camera)
Nope
@@YuuToobz Train ur eyes more
It's been proven several times by across multiple YT video reviews that QD-OLED blacks get lighter (turns greyer) when more light is in the room.
4:10 & 6:05 in this very video.
@@MDXZFR If you're being serious it means the monitor you used to watch this video is uncalibrated and/or broken, sorry.
@@Un1234l Yes, I'm aware of that. The worst situation of qd-oled is using it in the bright light. But the part where the comparison in gaming between both screens, I can see the black is deeper on the qd-oled It's bad I can't show it by photos
For me, this is an important blog you have made:
as have seen other youtube bloggers who really hate the Matt finish: they have their opinions, but for real truth and with your results, im now, but only now don't have to worry about a Matte coating..
Thank you so much 😊
yeah but this is high end level "matte", not the typical ones.
I’ve been super annoyed by with TH-camrs praising glossy coating while in studios. It is crazy hard to get a glossy screen or even a tv on a desk not to be obscured by reflections in normal houses.
@@gwyenbleidd2151 I greatly prefer matte finishes. I get headaches with glossy panels, and I always have a light on behind me. I personally think the glossy vs matte is overblown a little bit, but I also am not the target audience for most of these panels, and would prefer a 1080p 360hz TN panel over a 165hz 4k OLED.
@@Juice8767 Thats why you watch marketing youtubers rather than reading comprehensive tests. check RTINGS review for AW3225QF and see "reflection handling" you would be surprised how good it is for the same semi glossy finish as on Asus model.
@@Juice8767 Yeah, I have a LG C1 and it's a shiny black mirror. I'm not sure if I'd want to have a monitor with the same finish in my room.
Would you please show the off axis differences? I'm aware that the center of the monitor is perpendicular and your findings reflect that, but the edges of the monitor are off axis. I'm interested in how much each coating type will affect the image the further away it is from a perpendicular viewing angle.
I definitely want to see some car and gym tech videos as well! Unless tou keep it old school in the gym lol 💪🏿
Very surprised to see the comments go this way, if anything I thought it would be the other way around!
The glossy nation will attack soon dont worry, the personal biased youtubers and their fanboys are already taking notice and preparing for attacks
Babe wake up, Optimum dropped a new video
Cringe
it's so easy in the realm of monitors to just go with whatever the majority sense is, without there being actual real comparisons between 2 products, which is exactly what happened here. The LG monitor was completely out of my mind for consideration until I saw this video, since I fell subject to just thinking glossy is better than matte all the time. Having watched this video now, I think I prefer the matte compared to glossy, especially these 2 monitors you compared. Videos like these are a huge help and much appreciated!